2024 Toyota GR86 vs Mazda MX-5 // Which is the Best Sports Car for under $40K?

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@averagecarjunkie
@averagecarjunkie 2 ай бұрын
These two cars will always be classic, no Turbos just regular small fun cars. Both cars been around for a while and I love em both.
@POLITICALYCORRECTify
@POLITICALYCORRECTify 2 ай бұрын
86 is a sports car 0-100 in 7.5 seconds is top slow for these days.
@pranammm
@pranammm 2 ай бұрын
​​@@POLITICALYCORRECTify Slow is subjective. Slow in a drag race or a pull of the line? Sure. Slow in a track or canyon? Maybe not.
@richardmichael59
@richardmichael59 2 ай бұрын
Too many people are hung up on stats instead of actual driving dynamics. How often do you need to time yourself going 0-100?
@TheWhisperingPenis
@TheWhisperingPenis 2 ай бұрын
@@POLITICALYCORRECTify Yeah, true, but compared to what? The average car on the road is what 150hp? You are going to be fast compared to most people, but also driving dynamics make these cars very fun compared to the average. My Aunt has a Nissan Armada with 400 horsepower that gets to 60 in about 7 seconds or so. Guess what? Its way less fun than my crappy Mazda 2 with 106 horsepower. Its also 30-40k more than what I can get most Miatas for and makes the same time despite having over twice the horse power.
@ikooooooo4086
@ikooooooo4086 21 күн бұрын
@@POLITICALYCORRECTify SUB 6 SECONDS ACTUALLY. IF YOURE DOING 7.5S THE YOU GOTTA LEARN HOW TO DRIVE LMFAOOOO
@brandonsanger9413
@brandonsanger9413 2 ай бұрын
Great video. My dad has always had an MX-5 starting with an NA that he had all the way until 2016 when the the ND finally came out. I learned to drive manual on that one and he even let me use it to drive to high school. When Mazda released the RF, we traded in the the 2016 for a 2020 RF and that's also when they gave it the slight boost in horsepower. It is the most fun I've ever had in a car. I finally just bought my first car and got a 2025 Elantra N. It's amazing, fun, fast, loud, stable, and even practical but whenever I see the miata in the garage I smile appreciating that my 75 year old dad has a totally impractical toy that I love as much as him.
@stevenhearnden6103
@stevenhearnden6103 2 ай бұрын
An electric car? 🤢🤮
@tubruk9097
@tubruk9097 2 ай бұрын
@@stevenhearnden6103 no. its not electric.
@richardmichael59
@richardmichael59 2 ай бұрын
You don’t know the automotive industry well do you? Before embarrassing yourself with a comment like that, educate yourself.
@TamkoPhotography
@TamkoPhotography 2 ай бұрын
@@richardmichael59not everyone needs to know cars. Not need to be rude.
@JasonDrames
@JasonDrames Ай бұрын
Much props to your obvious maturity and,not engaging in a childish argument !!!
@toyosuba
@toyosuba 2 ай бұрын
This is an easy question. Get the MX5 if it’s going to be your 2nd or weekend car. It’s less practical, smaller inside, no backseat to toss stuff into, smaller boot. But it suits a weekend role very well with the convertible top. Get the GR86 if it’s going to be your only car, and are on the bigger/taller side. It’s more practical, and more space inside. And the low-end torque with the FA24 makes it great for daily duties. If you don’t care about any of that, get the MX5. No rev hang unlike the 86/BRZ, less engine problems on track, and convertible. Only thing the 86 has over that is the low-end torque which is very nice, and the extra hp which is sort’ve evened out by the MX5’s weight. I own a GR86 myself and am very happy with it, but that's only cause I wouldn't fit in an mx5 and can only afford 1 car.
@sunnyvalentino
@sunnyvalentino 2 ай бұрын
I am a 24 MX5 owner. Agreed! One more thing in favor of your car. If you want the best handling car (in my book thats flatter, more serious, more progressive) out of the factory (you will not mod it), your 86 is better. Its honestly one of the best handling factory cars Ive driven in 3 decades (and it includes Lotus, 911s etc). The MX5 will require coilovers or springs to get there. Otherwise, the inputs of the MX5 (shifter, steering, throttle response, engines and brake feel) is superior, along with the adjustability (alignments etc). It was designed for autocross and components hold up.
@Austinomon
@Austinomon 2 ай бұрын
Having owned a brz and the rf at the same time this is the most accurate statement. My wife has the rf and I had the brz and whenever we needed to shop we had to use the brz. The Miata was only good for going out but damn was it fun to run twistes together
@ashleyriera-salwey1509
@ashleyriera-salwey1509 2 ай бұрын
How tall are you ? I’m 6’4 wondering if I fit in a ND
@toyosuba
@toyosuba 2 ай бұрын
@@ashleyriera-salwey1509 I’m 6’5 and weigh 135kg/300pounds. I just fit in a GR86 thankfully. I’d go to a dealer regardless and see if you fit.
@philzvids3577
@philzvids3577 2 ай бұрын
@@ashleyriera-salwey1509 You won't. My friend is your height and he didn't fit in my ND. But go to a dealer and try one.
@ridepedal4life103
@ridepedal4life103 2 ай бұрын
Got a GR86 Premium 6speed a few months back. Drive (carve) SoCal canyons each day. The GR86 is the perfect tight canyon racer, however, my daily is a ‘97 Miata NA that I own since 1998. Modified suspension, lower, stiffer, all else pretty much stock…. That thing is priceless fun, unbelievable reliable (26years cornering and keeps going) and very hard to beat. It’s like a slot car on rails….. so light, so precise, so slow……but wait, take that momentum along and not many cars with tripple and more power manage to follow. Thank you Colin Chapman for the philosophy, and many thanks to all Japanese engineers for their relentless pursuit of perfection!!
@bearclaw5115
@bearclaw5115 2 ай бұрын
Don't blame you for enjoying your NA but it's one of the very slowest vehicles even around a track. You're not taking down cars with 3x+ the power. Please.
@sunnyvalentino
@sunnyvalentino 2 ай бұрын
Underrated part about the MX5. Those optional Recaros seats are AMAZING.
@totoro6214
@totoro6214 2 ай бұрын
so true, i drive for 4-5 hours on weekends sometimes without stopping. so comfortable
@JimmyXie
@JimmyXie 2 ай бұрын
One of your best reviews man! Love to see you driving the Miata. Watched all the way through, and agree with your take!
@TheRealTomSelleck
@TheRealTomSelleck 19 күн бұрын
I can’t get over how GOOD this video was. You’ve earned a new sub.
@Conorheath16
@Conorheath16 6 күн бұрын
the closing thoughts were humbling. great video
@lordjellyfish4745
@lordjellyfish4745 Ай бұрын
Really amazing video. I came from the Mk5 Supra vs Bmw M340i comparasion video and was blow away by not only how much quality was it built with but how much character it had. The lighting, sound, pure flow of the video, camerawork, ... Everything was amazing. Naturaly, I wanted to see more and found this video. Im just going to say that we'll be seeing each other more here
@lowkeynovs
@lowkeynovs 8 күн бұрын
I used to be in love with the gt 86 when it came out, never even thought the miata was cool. The 86 brz has problems though. What I thought was that the engine was so smart bringing a lower center of gravity and being pushed back behind the front wheels but the boxer engine has 2 heads that are heavy complicated and even changing plugs on that is a huge job.. as much as I respect the design and everything they tried to do.. the miata is just an enthusiasts dream of simplicity and fun with a huge weight advantage of 400
@viktorpantazis4441
@viktorpantazis4441 2 ай бұрын
Your shots are great, editing can improve slightly so that changing frames doesn't feel so rushed. I liked how you connected the car market and industry to society (generational inequality) to explain current market trends.
@BluDhillon
@BluDhillon 2 ай бұрын
Great video- the Camera work is crazy 👍🏻
@sunnyvalentino
@sunnyvalentino 2 ай бұрын
24 MX5 Club owner here. GR86 fan. Good video - my take is same. 86 more serious sports car better setup from factory, flatter, oversteers more fluidly and much more practical (it can be an only car for childless people), MX5 more fun with better inputs (throttle, shifter, steering, smooth engine, even brake feel). MX5 is built better and higher quality (interior materials, aluminum, double wishbones, reliability). Gas mileage I'm getting is 36mpg US lol The MX5s handling softness is easily rectified in aftermarket, the eventual race potential is higher (but you have to spend more money then!). I would have been happy with either. Lovely cars.
@gregmcgowan4726
@gregmcgowan4726 2 ай бұрын
Had a 13 FRS , and traded in for a 22 GR86, loved them both
@BluDhillon
@BluDhillon 2 ай бұрын
really well thought of Final thoughts 💭
@shift__robinson
@shift__robinson 2 ай бұрын
Nice comparison video between these 2 popular entry level sports cars 👏🏽 Thank you for sharing!
@vincentopperman1420
@vincentopperman1420 2 ай бұрын
So glad I stumbled upon this vid, amazing content
@LOLA6ifyable
@LOLA6ifyable 2 ай бұрын
I own a first gen face-lift brz love it! waiting for the 3rd gen , hope we see it. Great video!
@davianshipley3890
@davianshipley3890 2 ай бұрын
What year is the 3rd generation gonna come out?
@LOLA6ifyable
@LOLA6ifyable 2 ай бұрын
@davianshipley3890 no one knows . It may never happen , I wrote "hope we see it" 1st gen was 2012 - 2022. 2nd generation 2022 - ?? Maybe because of emissions we may see it back as mild hybrid . The Celica and MR2 , are currently in the pipeline according to rumors, not the same recipe though.
@97Syahmie
@97Syahmie 2 ай бұрын
Really great cinematography in this one man, especially that opening, keep up the good videos
@huatulcowanderers
@huatulcowanderers 2 ай бұрын
The GR86 is a great looking car but it's missing one key feature that makes a sports car awesome in my opinion and that is a softtop! You can't beat the top down experience on a nice hot sunny day!
@notdaijoubu5062
@notdaijoubu5062 2 ай бұрын
For real. Soft top is the definitive Miata experience. Never thought I'd be a convertible person, but there's nothing better than having the expanse of the sky all around you.
@korizmo
@korizmo 2 ай бұрын
Same 2 cars I was cross shopping for a daily, fun, great handling small car. I drove both and ending up with a 2024 GR86 Premium Manual. Love this car and you should see it now with 10k dropped on suspension (RCE Coils > all), lighter/wider wheels & tires and exterior bits (Adro). So many customization options to stand out from the other brz/86's.
@nmcleod4440
@nmcleod4440 Ай бұрын
That intro alone earned a new subscriber
@Magicmanmilton
@Magicmanmilton 2 ай бұрын
Great intro my man
@TripedalTroductions
@TripedalTroductions 2 ай бұрын
I think it speaks volumes that the cars can be so close when comparing just the driving dynamics and enjoyability even when you completely ignore the fact that the Miata is a convertible and the 86 has back seats. Back seats in the 86 gives it a longer wheelbase so is a track weapon compared to the Miata, but the Miata is a convertible roadster so adds to the experience when in the right setting. Ive never had the pleasure to drive an 86 on track but I'm sure it's amazing, but I can say that there is truly nothing else like carving a mountain/canyon road in a Miata with the top down.
@OtakuTeaTime22
@OtakuTeaTime22 Ай бұрын
I finally paid off my house so it's time to have some fun :D I'm definitely looking to pick up one of these two next year. We already have two practical cars (a Prius and an Altima) so seeing as this is purely a fun car I'm leaning towards the Miata. That 86 is sexy AF though, i really like the look of the hakone edition for 2025
@lilkasalananjames
@lilkasalananjames 11 күн бұрын
Great video, very well spoken! Hoping to get my own gr86 one soon once I graduate college next year. Cheers!
@Eagle-wp4gy
@Eagle-wp4gy 2 ай бұрын
really nice editing and thoughts!
@lukevanpelt386
@lukevanpelt386 8 күн бұрын
I'm a proud owner of a 2025 86 Hakone Edition with a MT. I'll be picking it up next month. I'm giving my Kia K5 gt-line to my step son. I love the sporty/basic design, MT, and RW drive of the GR86. I'm really excited!!
@Vijaypall_96
@Vijaypall_96 2 ай бұрын
Awesome review!
@DavidePizzala
@DavidePizzala 2 ай бұрын
It’s like an adult version of the choice for your starter Pokémon between mx-5, gr-86 and brz. I’m a proud owner of an Mx-5 but they are all great cars, I always give a peace sign to all of them on the road, we are the last stand in a world full of suv and crossover 💪🏻
@bobjohnson6131
@bobjohnson6131 6 күн бұрын
i would def choose mx-5 over gr86. I just wish the mx-5 was more aesthetically appealing. Heck the 94 miata i drove felt more beautiful of a car than the new mx5.
@madisonmiller920
@madisonmiller920 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! Great video!
@eugenux
@eugenux 2 ай бұрын
very nice review; it felt like it has been done by enthusiasts for enthusiasts; congraz. smoother transitions and slightly longer shots...or maybe I am just too old and tired after working 24 hours in the last 33. Either way, a very good job.
@Danmandingo
@Danmandingo 2 ай бұрын
*Really gotta tip my hat to MAZDA.* They truly make cars, that are quite fun to drive. The fact thst they're pretty damn reliable, is just the icing on the cake.
@EchoSigma6
@EchoSigma6 2 ай бұрын
I’ll take both if I could! My Miata is definitely a top down mountain road car for Saturday mornings. It’s magical.
@Rico58X007
@Rico58X007 2 ай бұрын
Get what you want. They are both really nice cars. I chose the 2024 MX-5 grand touring soft top in soul red crystal. Beautiful car. Oh, practicality is a function of need. The Miata is perfectly practical for me and my needs. It is also a second car for me. Thanks for the video.
@francisgomes9976
@francisgomes9976 2 ай бұрын
Answer is always Miata. On top of that you get convertible experience
@VictorPitstop
@VictorPitstop 2 ай бұрын
I am a diehard Miata fan (on #6) but would take a coupe Miata in a millisecond.
@edujourneyaspirasi2775
@edujourneyaspirasi2775 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@francisgomes9976
@francisgomes9976 2 ай бұрын
@@VictorPitstop you can, the hardtop version.
@VictorPitstop
@VictorPitstop 2 ай бұрын
@@francisgomes9976 the one almost but Mazda never produced for the NA/NB? I’m sure it’s priceless. (The RF doesn’t count and that’s what I have).
@totoro6214
@totoro6214 2 ай бұрын
@@VictorPitstop I'm curious on your preference for a coupe over the rf. (i'm a 24' rf club owner myself) unless... you mean to have them all! I'd love to also have a soft top in the garage one day and switch between the ST and RF pending on the weather/ occasion
@brianbohnet1907
@brianbohnet1907 2 ай бұрын
The answer is easy: BRZ. Hope this helps. Better more straight forward dealership experience with a platform that is 85% subaru, along with a suspension that's easier at slow speeds and more confidence inspiring at higher limits.
@mannypaul5744
@mannypaul5744 2 ай бұрын
Miata is always the answer but I would love to see the GR86 with the 3 banger that’s in the GR Corolla
@bilokenneth
@bilokenneth 2 ай бұрын
But until you drive it past 85 MPH there is no warranty loooool
@beedos08
@beedos08 Ай бұрын
Just, no.... I guarantee that the engine will not be reliable. It's too much pressure on an engine to crank it that high. It would also make the car more expensive as seen by the cost of the GR Corolla in comparison. That aside, dropping a turbo in a car like these two misses the point of the car entirely. These are supposed to be fun, sporty cars on a back road. Not a drag car.
@tanjoseph8851
@tanjoseph8851 2 ай бұрын
First time watching your video, great stuff with high quality video production, will appreciate you could add in the subtitle for better clarity , thanks folks and have fun
@legendaryandso2091
@legendaryandso2091 19 күн бұрын
Good video and both cars.
@blackwolfthedragonmaster
@blackwolfthedragonmaster 2 ай бұрын
Cool channel I like your style
@opmike343
@opmike343 2 ай бұрын
There's not really any other companies even trying to compete in the small, lightweig,ht FR sports car category. Props to both companies for even bothering when they could just be selling more CUVs...
@bodyelev8
@bodyelev8 2 ай бұрын
Miata all the way!! Love the cinematics tho!
@philzvids3577
@philzvids3577 2 ай бұрын
Both great cars and far more exciting than the boring SUVs and EVs that are taking over our roads. I have a MX5 ND2 2.0 184 that I use as a daily driver. It's a fun car and mine has a good trim so lots of gadgets including a reversing cam, idiot detection etc. One point that is never discussed is that the car is absolutely fine crawling along at walking speed in 1st gear. In the UK, the govt are on a mission to dig up every road and cause maximum congestion, so this feature is really handy. The engine is nice and revvy and will go to 7500 which is impressive. The car replaced my Fiat 124 spider which was written off by an idiot. In everyday use the MX5 achieves 40MPG. If it had a decent hydraulic steering rack and a turbo it would be my perfect car at an almost reasonable price.
@makagio
@makagio 2 ай бұрын
I have both. 2023 BRZ and a 1998 MX5 NB
@LoveToCode7
@LoveToCode7 2 ай бұрын
I’ll be getting a soft top Miata in late December or early in 2025. I’ve been waiting for my daughter to graduate from college so I don’t have to make anymore tuition and rent payments.
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 2 ай бұрын
There is a rumor that there will be a 35th anniversary edition for 2025 in a unique color. No idea what the color will be, but might be worth waiting for if you are already going to get a 2025 model. The word is that it won't be a limited amount, only available over a limited time. That is what I am waiting for, a yellow or green Miata would be mint.
@LoveToCode7
@LoveToCode7 2 ай бұрын
@@Swarm509 There is some speculation. I read somewhere that the ND3 update for 2024 is the last ND and the change will be drastic. I think the 2024 will be considered a classic. However, I’m debating a 2 year lease with option to purchase just in case a drastic change just after I get one as the ND is a decade old almost
@itaybutavia1204
@itaybutavia1204 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your review and information. The MX5 most to be soft top ! More beautiful More Light weight . BBS great ! BRAMBO ...❤❤ Where are the Recaro seats ???
@DrewsephBoo
@DrewsephBoo 2 ай бұрын
Great head-to-head comparison. Will say though, if you look on the used market, the MX-5 (ND2) will probably be a better value option than the GR86.
@vigneshkrishnan7642
@vigneshkrishnan7642 18 күн бұрын
Love the touches on cost and wages. Really sad to see people who love these simple cars can’t afford them :(
@theretoocs
@theretoocs 2 ай бұрын
Both are great cars . I own a ‘22 MX-5. THe GR86 was never a consideration because I wanted a convertible, and had less need for practicality. Love the car every day, great for touring and as a daily drive. Keep in mind that the Brembo brakes on the Mazda are front only. Rear brakes are standard brakes painted red.
@BastianUllr
@BastianUllr 2 ай бұрын
I was concerned with practicality- drove sedan/SUV for 15 yrs to realize that without kids, there is nothing to win in North America with a few more sits to spare where a car is almost a necessity. Most people drive! So I Made the leap of faith and instead of getting a new shuttle, got a Miata. It has been one of the best decisions of my life. It’s perfectly practical for a childless couple. Reliable, convenient, fun, cheap to maintain, mods are dirt cheap, sounds brilliant, it’s a joy to drive with top down after work/on a weekend/because why not… it’s pure joy. The practicality argument is such a silly thing, the MX-5 can totally be a daily driver. Excellent small city commuter, heats up quick on winter… I can’t find downsides, except you do need to drive defensively. Else… can’t wait to drive it tomorrow again. For any other few occasions a year, if any, I can rent a truck. For everything else? It does it great in my opinion. Great city car. I’m glad is not a silly stiff uncomfortable slow sports car… it’s actually more like a touring vehicle. The fact that even with blisteins on is still soft-ish makes it actually quite fun cornering slower around town. Good chasis and feel for a joy ride, not a track toy. For that, you’d need to get it there. Not interested, 😅 one thing I’m sure, I can’t afford to rent this much fun a year. It lights up any bad day, it motivates you to find an excuse to go somewhere and seize the day, see which sedan/suv can do that.
@solocamo3654
@solocamo3654 2 ай бұрын
I own a 3600lb 2013 G37 Sedan 7AT and my GF a 2021 MX-5 6AT, the G37 will walk it on the straights but that MX-5 is an absolute go kart in the twisties. Still would rather drive the G as a daily though. Either the 86 or MX-5 with 50hp on either would be perfect.
@alphabeta8403
@alphabeta8403 Ай бұрын
9:00 86 more torquey 12:30 Exterior; interior 15:00 Convertible or not? 🤔
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 2 ай бұрын
I picked up a '23 BRZ early this year, and its a fantastic car. I am too tall for a Miata, but I fit great in the BRZ. Having things like a glove box, and a big trunk make it easy to live with daily. I did go through and do full sound deadening on it though. Yes, it made the car 24 pounds heavier, but it is significantly quieter inside now. But both cars are fantastic. If somebody is considering them, go test drive both. You can lose either way.
@jiewu1988
@jiewu1988 2 ай бұрын
nice weather weekend toy go for Miata. Entry-level track day car go for 86/brz
@mattylight8600
@mattylight8600 2 ай бұрын
On paper yes, but in reality the GR86 has oil starvation issues on track during high speed right hand turns.
@ruturaj47
@ruturaj47 2 ай бұрын
​@@mattylight8600and still many are tracking it without any issues. It's just fear mongering at this point. Sure pressure drops are real, it's not breaking cars and would be resolved with bigger oil pans.
@GSXSF1k
@GSXSF1k 2 ай бұрын
My most fun 4 cylinder car was the 1989 Ford Probe. It was a hoot to drive and quicker than a 5.0L Mustang.
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET 2 ай бұрын
Yo -GR86 Toyota/Subaru needs to address that “gasket glue problem “ …….👍🏽
@vincentopperman1420
@vincentopperman1420 2 ай бұрын
Don’t think they will unless more accidents happen. Bur I mean you can just replace it.
@Yumemaru.
@Yumemaru. 2 ай бұрын
both are great. If you want a convertable, go with the Miata. It's the only real choice in it's class, at it's pricepoint. If you want a more practical coupe, with amazing aftermarket support, go with the 86 or BRZ.
@Dornpunzel
@Dornpunzel Ай бұрын
I see the GR86 drift in your videos while the MX5 is not. I do have the 2024 MX5 RF and i find it hard to bring it into drifting. Former versions felt easier to do so. Can you confirm that or have any hints about it? They seem to have changed some things. Btw: EPIC video. Best I've seen so far on youtube regarding these 2 cars.
@eduardomaldonado5793
@eduardomaldonado5793 2 ай бұрын
Would definitely love to have to Elantra n here… different type of car then these to obviously but fwd turbo 4 cyl for 35k keeping it close to FL5 can’t compete with that definitely a underrated car
@ScottPriestley
@ScottPriestley 2 ай бұрын
My takeaway - get a Miata but add aftermarket sway-bars 🙂 Of course Im biased because I just got my first Miata - an 08 GT PRHT ❤
@chibhishamanagsha4245
@chibhishamanagsha4245 2 ай бұрын
Been following your amazing videos man! Where are you guys based from?
@vincentopperman1420
@vincentopperman1420 2 ай бұрын
8:29 that’s because of the piped in noise from the speakers, you can disable it tho
@FoigTCG
@FoigTCG 2 ай бұрын
Great video but your switching back and forth from 60 to 30fps is throwing me off
@ShengNotShane
@ShengNotShane 28 күн бұрын
This version of the Miata is more of a targa top than convertible. The back is not open, only the center portion making it less "open" feeling than a normal convertible.
@itspronouncedjello
@itspronouncedjello 2 ай бұрын
Touge is pronounced toh-geh. Love these cars, would love to get into a Miata but I need backseats
@jasondixon9095
@jasondixon9095 2 ай бұрын
I love my MX5 2021 RF fun car
@businessmanph
@businessmanph Ай бұрын
imagine a mazdaspeed mx-5 with a civic type r engine. nd1 was getting 25 mpg with fbo. 201 whp, 175 ft tq driven like like a go cart. max speed was around 135 mph. retired 102k. at the time paid 30k out the door for club with brembo recaro package. modifications cost about 15k.
@ajcivicracer
@ajcivicracer 2 ай бұрын
Love my Miata and respect the 86. More people can afford these than other sports cars/sedans.
@GarretTheShadow
@GarretTheShadow 2 ай бұрын
Which one has more road noise on the highway? ND RF or GR86?
@ApxuBbI
@ApxuBbI 2 ай бұрын
Ain't this is new Miata red color? Looks different than Soul Red.
@dougmaverick3287
@dougmaverick3287 2 ай бұрын
Nice review, can you let me know what roads you're driving on the twisty ones?
@federiconalos8202
@federiconalos8202 4 күн бұрын
Between the two cars, on shape alone, the MX5 Miata looks more refined and inviting in my opinion. It's more closer to my first two-seater, 62 MGB (Mediterranean Blue). Now, I only wish that my 2024 MX5 Miata RF GT soul red came with quad exhaust tips vice the dual one. Surely, a mod will make it happen, but cutting into the bottom rear skirt to fit the additional exhaust tips is risky, alignment and precisioned-look wise.
@dainiusvysniauskas2049
@dainiusvysniauskas2049 3 күн бұрын
I agree, ND has been out for quite a while so Mazda had plenty of time to refine the design. It's a beautiful little car
@boost331
@boost331 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact the 2 cars actually use the same Aisin transmission.
@joserafaelleonvera2140
@joserafaelleonvera2140 25 күн бұрын
I wonder why nobody mention the Subaru BRZ on comparisons ? I think is the twin car of the gr86, same engine. Is there any difference on equipment or price ?
@davidgillham6847
@davidgillham6847 2 ай бұрын
The 86 definitely makes a bit more power than what is stated, and I would honestly say it feels reasonably faster than the MX-5 once you're up to speed. The body roll is also a lot less in the 86 making it feels more planted and controlled through bends, as a sports car should. Also, if you want any degree of practicality, then the 86 wins hands down. I think honestly the only thing that the mazda clearly beats the 86 on is interior quality, infotainment and sound system. The shifter is a bit nicer in the MX-5 though. Both classic cars though to be sure. Worst thing though about the 86 is fuel economy and stock brakes are crap.
@DragonKnightX12
@DragonKnightX12 2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't offer a more premium trim option on the twins this time around. It shouldn't be that much to add in some more soft touch materials and synthetic seats. One thing nice about the infotainment tho is it's an old school double din setup, so you can easily get an aftermarket system in there. Stock brakes are actually pretty good with just high performance pads.
@davidgillham6847
@davidgillham6847 2 ай бұрын
@@DragonKnightX12 true that, track pads and better brake fluid will massively upgrade the stock brakes! Also, the 86 interior can easily be upgraded with lots cheap real CF interior trim pieces, and if done tastefully can really spruce up the cabin. Sound system is also an easy upgrade for just a few hundred bucks!
@johnarizaga1508
@johnarizaga1508 Ай бұрын
Put the top down on your Miata and none of that matters anymore.
24 күн бұрын
@ johnarizaga1508 that’s a stupid reason to own a fun car.
@DragonKnightX12
@DragonKnightX12 24 күн бұрын
Lol That's part of why you buy a Roadster/ Convertible.
@waynezw
@waynezw 2 ай бұрын
Which car will be more reliable? Build quality of Miata is better.
@vincentopperman1420
@vincentopperman1420 2 ай бұрын
Gr86 has more mods and repair parts ,but I get your point. I think it goes either way depending on the person.
@DanH-u3f
@DanH-u3f 2 ай бұрын
The MX5 actually handles better, but the GR86 has more hp, torque and better lap times.
@davianshipley3890
@davianshipley3890 2 ай бұрын
How you think the long term reliability of the gr86 would be?
@bigweedonly
@bigweedonly 2 ай бұрын
@@davianshipley3890 If you turn right too hard while tracking it, itll blow up. Avoid.
@DanH-u3f
@DanH-u3f 2 ай бұрын
@@davianshipley3890 Subaru flat 4. Not a Toyota engine. Good, but not great.
@makingretro
@makingretro 2 ай бұрын
The GR86 has gotten bigger "over the years"? There has been exactly one redesign that made it one inch longer and one inch taller.
@itsKyleFlorentino
@itsKyleFlorentino 2 ай бұрын
S2000 AP1 still reigns supreme in my book
@vincentopperman1420
@vincentopperman1420 2 ай бұрын
8:50 Mx5 has better startup sound and gr86 has better exhaust. But that’s just me personally
@anthonye3680
@anthonye3680 Ай бұрын
The 100% winner is the Miata. The Miata is not on every other forum with blown motors . The miata is a track weapon and very reliable. If i were to pick one its the miata
@LordShargaas
@LordShargaas 2 ай бұрын
Both fun cars. But in France, there is no match. MX-5 have a 3k € eco tax, the GR86... 60k €.
@Dornpunzel
@Dornpunzel Ай бұрын
Since I drove / owned MX5 and Abarth 124 Spider, I wasnt able to enjoy any other car. GR86, GR Yaris, Porsche Boxster, they all made me NOT feel the same excitement while driving and disappointed I had to tell the friendly dealer that these cars are not going to be my purchase since I felt nothing. I am lost.... 😞 Thanks Mazda.
@peterzemanovic2038
@peterzemanovic2038 2 ай бұрын
You keep saying MX-5 is better for fun yet you clearly show the GR86 swings it's back out nicely where the MX-5 kinda just wobbles around a corner. Does not look more fun to me. Also MX-5 has adjustable suspension already stock, so you can set it up for track easily, if you don't mind the excessive roll.
@johnarizaga1508
@johnarizaga1508 Ай бұрын
Drive and mx5 and you’ll see how wrong you are.
@Kriz91eo
@Kriz91eo 2 ай бұрын
Its hard to ear your vocals, had to turn up the volume more than usual.
@racingheart92
@racingheart92 Күн бұрын
@14:44 someone's hiding but we saw you 🙃😅
@kyriekiller2779
@kyriekiller2779 2 ай бұрын
Do you actually intrested in making videos about cars that are not that new? Like 2010 etc. I was thinking about making genesis coupe video
@RobertCekus
@RobertCekus 25 күн бұрын
Both cars are Icons. I would prefere the GR86 because in the MX-5 i have not so many Space. I´m 1,83m high so the MX-5 is too little for me.
@TC_Geosci
@TC_Geosci 2 ай бұрын
"From the 'toges' of Japan" ?????? @1:24 とうげ (峠) ? 🤔
@blurayffan66
@blurayffan66 2 ай бұрын
MX-5 soft top for me.
@A861967
@A861967 2 ай бұрын
I had both ❤ the GTS86 and the mx-5 the main difference is the size.. the 86 will fit me and a few friends if needed. The mx-5 was a pain as the practicality is none existent and even trips for shopping was a challenge. Sold them both and got a wrx Sportswagon 😅 still would get the GR86 again as it’s so much fun❤
@firedude1Productions
@firedude1Productions 9 күн бұрын
I remember when these cars used to be under 20k msrp
@mrcsproncho3798
@mrcsproncho3798 2 ай бұрын
it is very hard to hear you please reduce the music volume next video
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET
@BlackNAVYAmericanVET 2 ай бұрын
MX5 is 2Xs more SEXY ! And the cabin is beautiful MX5 ❤…….
@pavelfoltanjudr.771
@pavelfoltanjudr.771 2 ай бұрын
😉 OK video, but there is no point in comparing these two cars. It's personal. For about 30 years I drove 4 Nissan GT tuning cars. Super cars. I'm almost 70 years old and I'm a professional musician. I can fit 2 guitars and 2 combos in the GR86. But there are more reasons. It's personal. The Miata is not for me. I bought a Subaru Impreza toy for my wife. And I think they are both satisfied. Choose the car that suits you and be happy. 🤠 HOWGH
@fahmidnd2
@fahmidnd2 2 ай бұрын
Love both these cars, I decided to go with the Miata. However, there’s no wrong answer. But that 86 sounds like garbage 😭
@SrtRacerBoy
@SrtRacerBoy 2 ай бұрын
I would never own a Subaru with a Boxer engine. Maybe when toyota launches that new crazy 4 cylinder they made, the GR86 will get that
@Vapor16533
@Vapor16533 22 күн бұрын
GR86 all DAY
@hoodieboy1515
@hoodieboy1515 2 ай бұрын
I wish we got Honda S2000 2024 😔
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