Ranking the Bros Items from Mario and Luigi Partners in Time

[@ShroobInvader]

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[@tibby4503]

hi Maybe rerank the dreampoints from Dream Team?

[@robboxstream9953]

rank all of paper Mario games

[@cynthiaabel1906]

@@robboxstream9953 love that ida

[@robboxstream9953]

@@cynthiaabel1906 thanks

[@emberthefox4951]

Ranking every party member in Super Mario RPG.

[@Eliasfunplay]

Fun fact: there is a vererrrrrrry rare chance that the pocket chomp will actually be female, the female chain chomp is less aggressive, and moves SLOWER, which gives you more room for error.

[@andrewwarra1010]

Fun fact: this game is the real first game to feature the ice flower in Mario it came out four years before New Super Mario Bros Wii

[@ShroobInvader]

I REMEMBER THAT FACT, I feel like some said that to me over a year ago lol

[@manupm9161]

Actually, New super mario bros wii is the third game to have the ice flower in it, super mario galaxy was the second one...

[@davejoey16]

​@@manupm9161 the first ice flower also had reversed colours, darker blue on the inside

[@ThatSlimeDude]

When the babies are piggybacked, you can use fire flower to hit flying enemies if you spam X or Y.

[@jamescoughlan5526]

16:26 "deals hundreds of damage" *shows it at a time it only deals 1 damage*

[@ShroobInvader]

Yeah uh…watch out for elements!

[@Slate_Drinks_Tea]

I am suffering watching him use the fire and ice flowers. Not his fault or anything, but you can lob the projectiles when piggybacking using x and y in place of a and b

[@NyctobloomCreations4658]

Fun Fact: This is the very first game where the E in E. Gadd is confirmed to be Elvin.

[@ShroobInvader]

Oh cool :D

[@ThePaulineu]

The moment at 1:40 where they shoot at flying Kamel is so painful hahahahaha Did you know you could shoot with the babies so the fire goes up?

[@ShroobInvader]

That is not me playing the game and I legit included it because I thought it was funny lol

[@ThePaulineu]

Ohh gotcha! Yeah it is hilarious

[@LogHead478]

I just finished playing this game recently for my channel. The mix flower helped me cheese every enemy fight in Shroob Castle with one move because of the Ult-Free badge. I never ran out of items. The Copy Flower was OP for the boss fights.

[@Driggsdamonstah]

My Ranking would probably be something like this… 10. Bro Flower (I don’t understand why the name is the way it is when the three most recent games have “Fire Flower” anyway this ability is only really useful against enemies with an elemental weakness to fire like Petey Piranha and Sunnycide. Otherwise it’s completely obsolete. Especially when Burn status here is as obsolete as it is in TTYD.) 9. Smash Egg (I’m really bad with this one. Sue me. But also, the only thing worthwhile about it is the item you get at the end. Dizzy is a worse Burn and there’s just better items really.) 8. Green Shell (It’s the tried and true First Bros. Attack. Not much more. Completely obsolete by what comes next.) 7. Pocket Chomp (This is an interesting attack, but it’s also unwieldy to utilize and timing one of the three potential buttons makes it easier to end the attack. Not one I use very often.) 6. Red Shell (Better Green Shell since it’s actually indefinite and able to screen wipe if buttons are timed properly.) 5. Cannonballer (A very potent early game attack, but it loses itself towards the end despite the elemental weakness towards Sunnycide.) 4. Trampoline (Dizzy is pointless. But it’s an indefinite Cannonballer. Not as good as the top three.) 3. Mix Flower (How to wipe out AoE scenarios 101.) 2. Ice Flower (This one is always one of the best ones thanks to the debuffs actually meaning something and the fact that every single type of Shroob is weak to Ice except for Princess Shroob.) 1. Copy Flower (Yep. This game is unbalanced. This attack decimates. It’s everything that makes an OP ability.)

[@ShroobInvader]

Your number 1 describes these bros items perfectly ☠️ Nice list!

[@usernamethecringelady]

Trampoline and pocket chomp are BUSTED against single target enemies Even if the status effects aren't that worthwhile they still do a shit ton of damage

[@NerdyChocolateLabradoodle]

How is Burn status “obsolete”? I’d say it’s one of my personal favorite status effects myself.

[@GlitchanBlack]

OK, looking through the footage you used while talking about the Fire Flower, I am *_convinced_* people do not know how to use it on flying enemies until last minute. For context: if you have the quartet together and use the Fire Flower, you can press the X or Y buttons instead of A & B to aim the Fireballs at flying enemies with the Baby Bros. The same thing can be done with the Ice Flower as well. I learned this from watching Chuggaaconroy's playthrough of the game. That being said, my favorite Bros. Attack in this game has to be the Mix Flower when it comes to the Quartet, and the *_FUCKING ICE FLOWER_* when it comes to the regular ones.

[@Kollapse]

When I first got the mix flower, I initially thought I may have accessed something earlier than I should've, because holy bajeebus this thing is overpowered! Literally CREMATES groups of enemies, and it isn't even that hard to pull off! Definitely agree on putting this in number 1.

[@ShroobInvader]

Ikr it’s absolutely overpowered and I don’t get how strong it is ☠️

[@Miccat87]

I agree with most of this list. I'd say I prefer Copy Flower over Pocket Chomp though, since it does more damage and I honestly find it easier to use than Pocket Chomp. I still think Mix Flower is indeed the best though. Copy Flower is amazing for most bosses, but Mix Flower can be even better if you're dealing with multiple targets, such as Elder Princess Shroob's second phase. Additionally, it's much better for regular enemies, as you said.

[@ShroobInvader]

I’m a rare Pocket Chomp person lol, but I do think it depends a lot on skill you have with each bros item, but screw that when it comes to the mix flower lol

[@lavistalimited4747]

I agree with the sentiments for most of this list. For me personally, I stopped using the Bros Flowers and the Green Shell pretty quickly, I think around the time I beat Wiggler. Pocket Chomp was only used for the Shrooboid Brat, and then never again basically. That being said, a few years ago I did a personal challenge where I tried to beat the Shroob Princesses while only having level 4 stats (it was a cheat with the emulator I was using). And to my surprise, the Pocket Chomp carried me through most of it. With the best armour and badges in the game, you'd see Bros Attacks doing at most 4 damage per hit. On younger Princess Shroob, Pocket Chomp does 8 damage per hit and on Elder Princess Shroob after a Defence debuff, it'll do 16 damage per hit. Obviously doesn't sound like a lot but in the context of that challenge, you'll take all the extra damage you can dish out. So that's a neat little thing that boosts up Pocket Chomp for me. I think objectively, the Copy Flower is the most consistently useful. For the reasons you stated, plus the fact that it's the quickest way to deactivate Princess Shroob's barrier at the start of her boss battle. For a more opinionated number one slot, I'm giving it to the Trampoline. I don't really use it in normal battles much due to there more often than not being at least two enemies, when I'm using them in boss battles I'm having a good time. And also from what I've seen, while the Copy Flower and in some cases the Pocket Chomp end up doing more damage overall after the string of attacks, the Trampoline does more damage per hit. With the right equipment, Mario can do 102 per hit without a crit (best armour plus Risk Badge). All in all, good list. 👍

[@ShroobInvader]

Great analysis on these bros attacks and I can’t argue with any of them

[@Boilingflopnoob]

Bro you put so much work into these videos, insanely underrated!

[@SportsGaming-ll3ru]

Smash egg has an incredibly rare chance to give you a badge, the simple badge

[@ShroobInvader]

That’s pointless but also insane lol

[@mmmapplesauce1673]

The smash egg is probably one of my favorite specials in the M&L series. Whenever i think of partners in time that’s the first time that comes to mind.

[@settingsun5582]

You can actually use the Baby Bros in Smash Egg to speed up the egg by pressing their button when it goes to Mario/Luigi, making it hit harder but making it more powerful.

[@ShroobInvader]

That’s true but (I haven’t tested if it does more damage or not) it makes you do less and less hits on it

[@settingsun5582]

@@ShroobInvader Mhm, true.

[@Jaydove2387]

@@ShroobInvader it generally does about 30% more damage.

[@miraabramson1728]

Mentioning how many green shells you get is actually a good point even though it is technically the worst Bros item in the game it's there's so many of them and item blocks that you is useful

[@thelolmaster12]

At the time this video came out I am still playing Partners in Time after a year. I didn't lose a boss battle or give up I was just simply busy or there were other things that sparked my interest and I was playing on a emulator which was laggy from time to time. Currently I'm in the final area of the game beating the crap out of every enemy I come across and grinding coins for more Bros. Items. I will be stacked for the final boss!

[@ShroobInvader]

Yeah you shouldn’t lose at that point lol

[@NerdyChocolateLabradoodle]

I think it should be worth noting that if you successfully land all 16 hits on a Green Shell, regardless of if you use the optional piggyback command or not, it actually deals more damage than a Cannonballer.

[@leroymeulen7557]

It's been a while since I played bit iirc. 1:44 using X and Y will make the fireballs arc instead of bounce while the babies and bros are together allowing you to hit flying enemies

[@ShroobInvader]

The footage person didn’t know this. But I knew this already. I’m glad it has this feature but honestly it still doesn’t raise it up from number 10

[@ZelphytheGuideMaker]

I've one shot Elder Princess Shroob's first phase with Copy Flowers before... that item is so overpowered

[@Master-Fawful958]

I just realized that the Mix Flower’s sprite looks like a combination of the fire flower and a ShineSprite from Mario Sunshine.

[@fortbrawlgamer4674]

What do you think shroob about the smash egg when you also use the babies while doing it?I just see everyone forgetting about these feature(same with the flowers) and that sucks.

[@ShroobInvader]

I mentioned it in the video! For both the fire/ice flower and the smash egg, I’m glad I included it lol

[@fortbrawlgamer4674]

@@ShroobInvader ok thx

[@Sun42]

Fact about smash egg : It can does higher damages thanks to the babies : hit the egg twice with them and use Mario's or Luigi's button (the one with the best attack stat). The egg does around x1,5 damage iirc. So I think Smash egg does more damage on 1 enemy than cannon.

[@supermaximglitchy1]

the fire flower also can’t hit flying enemies unless you use the X and Y buttons

[@ShroobInvader]

This is true, the footage dude who did it was not good and didn’t know, and I swear it wasn’t me lol

[@Shadex_Joestar]

I love PIT,but damn this game is basically a button masher,even compared to Superstar Saga Not only that,but I never actually realized how over the top some attacks were,not just in terms of damage but even design-wise Mix Flower is basically a freaking Supernova and with Copy Flower you basically have an endless army as long as you're fast enough And people say Falling Star is op,geez

[@ShroobInvader]

While I do agree with the falling star still being super op, yeah these bros attacks are also really insane. It made it more interesting to talk about compared to something like the bosses from this game lol

[@swissmonkeyman6732]

I have a ranking idea its about ranking all battle themes off every game

[@kevintao3973]

I would rank smash egg #10, since it's so difficult to time Also, I just used bros flower with x and y buttons to hit kamek clones

[@ShroobInvader]

Same here that is not me playing the game but it was funny to watch so I included it lol

[@AZV0108]

I'm replaying PiT and I didn't realised how stupidly broken the Ice Flower was. I took down Petey Piranha in around a minute and half rounding the levels 16-17 (not sure if at that point of the game being in those levels is being overleved) because he got debuffed to hell and literally spent the rest of the battle unable to move.

[@nintavito546]

1:40 someone tell to the person who recorded this clip that you can hit flying enemies if the babies are in the bros backs using X or Y instead of A and B.

[@ShroobInvader]

IKR (it wasn’t me btw who was in the footage)

[@carlyskolnik296]

Great list and video and yes my fave remains the same. Pocket chomps. So much fun to use!!! Keep it up!!! Excited for next video

[@ShroobInvader]

Thank you and yes they are just amazing and so satisfying to use

[@carlyskolnik296]

You’re welcome and true

[@marioluigijam3612]

In my experience Trampoline is actually easier do vs copy flowers. For me the slower nature of the attack makes it easier to execute

[@guardianboreal1432]

If you use Fire Flower while on piggyback just spam X and Y instead since the babies hit all enemies, even aerial ones, kupo.

[@ShroobInvader]

Yep for sure, this isn’t my footage so I know this but the footage dude didn’t lol

[@guardianboreal1432]

@@ShroobInvader XD Understood, kupo.

[@DerpDerp3001_plays]

I've actually compared the Smash Egg to the Cannonballer and it is far more powerful when you boost the attack with the babies.

[@ShroobInvader]

That’s interesting actually. Strange, but interesting

[@DerpDerp3001_plays]

@@ShroobInvader When I mastered Smash Eggs, it became third most OP attack behind Pocket Chomps and Mix Flower.

[@Flutterdark_]

im surprised the copy flower isnt number 1 tbh. because thats the first bros item that came to mind for such a list. but the reasoning makes sense

[@ShroobInvader]

It’s super overpowered but it’s a bros item that I’m not the absolute best at compared to the pocket chomp

[@Flutterdark_]

@@ShroobInvader yeah, meanwhile i just suck with the pocket chomp :)

[@orangemoon286]

This man is hella underrated for the fax he spittin

[@alfermon6243]

My issue with the green shell and the smash egg is that well the green shell always feels like its doing 10% of your current damage or well if you have 100 attack then your only dealing 10 damage feels a little weak but the smash egg feels so much more powerful now i don't mind buying a few extra smash eggs as i can get use out of them but green shells i mean I would rather jump on the foes then use it and during my current run of partners in time yea i feel like that's true... also the pow attack badge feels very powerful

[@robinthedragonhunter64]

If you swap pocket chomp for trampoline you get my list

[@ShroobInvader]

You a trampoline person, I see 👀

[@Bowser6495]

To be fair at least from what I can tell the Fire and Ice Flowers definitely control better than the OG Bowser's Inside Story Fire Flower so I don't really have a problem with them in this game

[@ShroobInvader]

Omg yes it does. It’s better, but still bad

[@DerpDerp3001_plays]

I don't know about you but the fire flower is more powerful than the green shell and has the same amount of attack power as the ice flower.

[@ShroobInvader]

It is but the ice flower has WAY more use with its Debuffs and the green Shell becomes your new jump/hammer in the game because of how many free ones the game gives you at least for me personally

[@DerpDerp3001_plays]

@@ShroobInvader Yes though both the fire and ice flowers are suitable for enemies they are weak to. Like that is the main use.

[@sunnycideup4725]

God this game is spectacular

[@ShroobInvader]

Yesss

[@thealientree3821]

Ah! A Pocket Chomp person!

[@ShroobInvader]

That’s me 😎

[@unknight8999]

I’ve never really understood or used the mix flower. I just end up using other attacks like copy flower

[@ShroobInvader]

It’s really good against other enemies but not amazing for bosses lol

[@Jaydove2387]

For me the copy flower is too fast so I use the trampoline more.

[@ShroobInvader]

I get that sentiment as someone who once was a trampoline person lol

[@jaotrx7163]

I will asume that you play South Park stick of truth,I am a fan of Mario and Luigi and I can say that stick of truth is really fk good

[@VeltoI]

MARIO AND LUIGI PARTNERS IN TIME, ON THE US DIME. WAHOOooo-

[@ShroobInvader]

Heck ye :D

[@TheMartiann]

You forget the fire flower can hit air enemies 😭

[@insultbot]

For some reason, the Cannonballer does the least amount of damage for me, even less than Fire Flower and Green Shell.

[@CrimsonWolf_VT2]

Will superstar saga be next?

[@yakob9996]

im a new subscriber : )

[@ShroobInvader]

Thank you so much :D

[@aaww1010]

Hi shroom invader sorry it’s been a while since I stopped and commented do you plan on making any videos on the newest RPG series from Mario Mario and rabbits kingdom battle and Mario and Rabbids sparks of hope I have a feeling that it’s series of games are going to replace what Mario and Luigi used to be

[@ShroobInvader]

Yes I do and I actually plan on streaming the game once I get it!

[@aaww1010]

@@ShroobInvader cool Me and my girlfriend plan to check out the game when it does release me and her already pre-ordered it

[@guusthomassen9945]

I am so bad at mix flowers and pocket chomps. Whenever I use them I deal like 3 damage

[@ShroobInvader]

Ok well then they definitely wouldn’t be in your top 2 lol

[@guusthomassen9945]

Also, did you know that you can actually hit flying enemies with the flower bros items if you use the baby buttons when you're with all four? I didn't until recently

[@ivanzoneBR24]

Can't believe we are actually in the Sparks of Hope release week.

[@ShroobInvader]

I ordered the game already and you bet I'm gonna stream the game right when I get it. I'm pretty excited as well

[@Marlin-]

you're using smash egg a bit wrong. if you use the baby's 1st a couple times the egg gains height and speed making it more powerfull. I might be a bit buyest since I use these a lot but it truely is a decent item

[@ShroobInvader]

Ok I can see that, I don’t hate it but I just don’t prefer to use it

[@jirachido3997]

*Poor Swiggler*

[@ShroobInvader]

Ikr lol

[@Davi-zo4lu]

for me, trampoline is underated

[@miraabramson1728]

You should have mentioned what changed in your ranking

[@proplaystowin]

Green shell was worst for me because i spent so much time playing that damn slots i just brought shroob castle to the ground with free bros items on both bros

[@MarcelMakesStuff]

indeed.

[@ShroobInvader]

😎

[@miraabramson1728]

Best Mario and Luigi game by far has less flaws compared to Bowser's inside story

[@thegreatkamekus4524]

You see the new Mario movie trailer?

[@ShroobInvader]

Yes, and I’m indifferent 🤷‍♂️, animation at least looks good

[@thegreatkamekus4524]

Yeah, hopefully illumination (the most bland company everer) will make this good

[@fraquero3192]

cool video

[@ShroobInvader]

Thank you :D

[@lorenzoantonio3630]

This the game that I have not played

[@commandertaco1762]

Considering that there are 3 infinite attacks lmao

[@Narteketh]

erm technically its called the bro flower not fire flower

[@cynthiaabel1906]

ranking al paer mario

[@ShroobInvader]

I wanna play the first one in the series first before this but once that happens this will happen

[@Jaydove2387]

@@ShroobInvader if you can't afford NSO, Bizhawk is free.

[@haronka]

Mix flower is overrated. It is powerful, but very unfun and can break some fights, but very unfun to use

[@boney4947]

Algorithm boost

[@boney4947]

Goddamn, I got a lot to catch up on

[@ShroobInvader]

LOL good luck catching up and thank you 🙏

[@kevindupan7393]

My ranking: 10) Mix flower (I’m just very bad at it) 09) Green shell 08) Smash egg 07) Fire flower 06) Red shell 05) Ice flower 04) Canonballers 03) Pocket chomp 02) Trampoline 01) Copy flower

[@ShroobInvader]

Good list :D