Ranking The Last 20 5th Overall Picks On A Tier List

[@RobTalksHockey]

What would your 5th overall tier list look like?!

[@sir_queef_a_lot_IIII]

Price and Peterson are the best

[@kingknightboss]

Price and Pettersson

[@sanderssportshow]

I think Kessel belongs in the HHOF

[@Zaghzackio]

I think Elias and Kessel are gonna make the hall of fame once their careers are over

[@sanderssportshow]

@@Zaghzackio Kessel yes but not Elias

[@TehRastaGamer]

literally only here to hear you talk about Pettersson lmao

[@canuckfan8622]

Same

[@braisondrysdale3227]

Of course Rielly regressed. His partner was Cody Ceci all season...

[@gavyncooke-bithrey6972]

He was injured all year. Finally was healthy for the playoffs and was the best player on the ice

[@Ryan8583]

he also played games with Barrie... my dude needs helped

[@StarForgedTCG]

Yeah he was injured a lot too, ive notices rob doesnt do much research on his vids

[@joer8854]

@@Ryan8583 Yeah he's never had a good defensive D partner he needs. Hopefully, the Leafs work that out this season.

[@PhoenixRiseinFlame]

Your content is getting better with every video! Keep up the hard work!

[@chitownfaithful6301]

I think this is my first time watching one of your ranking videos, and I loved it! Great editing and narration the entire way through. Obviously I didn’t agree with your picks 100% because I mean, we’re human, but I could care less if we did or not because you presented this so damn well. Your video quality has gotten so much better over time and I can’t wait to see more of them.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Thanks dude. Probably the most genuinely nice comment ive ever received

[@chitownfaithful6301]

Rob Talks Hockey My pleasure man! Really cool you think so, because I gotta say I do genuinely admire the work you put into your craft here. Looking forward to more as always.

[@Tr1Hard777]

Kessel is a perfect example of a guy with natural talent but doesn't try very hard to be the best.

[@siddiq106]

when you're so bad you have a whole tier dedicated to you

[@dr.baguette6837]

I think next year Reilly will bounce back. This year he played the first couple months injured with a broken ankle, and when he recovered he got injured again.

[@bretster8898]

populartc I think it depends on having a good line mate for him. The Leafs are almost guaranteed to lose Barrie this off season so they’ll have to go for someone

[@dr.baguette6837]

The Berg yep

[@ajiboy1919]

@@bretster8898 I thank dubas for Brodie 👏🏽🙌🏽

[@leafsfanforever2896]

Price has been dealing with injuries and fatigue over the last 5 years. Despite a Vezina-caliber season in 2016-17, injuries dealt a blow to him the next season, posting a career-worst season. He rebounded a bit the next season, before having a mediocre 2019-20 season. The COVID-19 pandemic shutdown recharged him, and he caught fire against Pittsburgh before being the best player in their 6-game loss to the Flyers

[@missouri3256]

Yeah, now with a decent back up he’ll have some time to rest :)

[@drewvaillancourt7205]

he will never get back to his capabilities of before 2015... half the shots double the goals as average.. playoffs were just a lucky fluke

[@nathanbeaulieu1257]

What I like to do on your vids, is putting my opinion on my head of every players you put it and since the beginning we agree on 100% of these.

[@QuinnVG]

Great video bud!!!! Love how grateful you are towards your fans

[@DrummerGuyCaam]

Price the GOAT 🤩

[@tommyngo1735]

@Maxx Coughlan u know nothing about hockey lmao price Carrie's that team every year hes the reason why Montreal isnt last every year🤣 and he has taking them to the ECF just got injured

[@kashhenk958]

Tommy Ngo actually, I watch a lot of Canadiens games, and I’m into advanced stats and the Canadiens had a very good team and defensive system this year and the past few years, and price has played like an average goalie or slightly above average. I cannot take away what he did in this years playoffs though, he was extremely good.

[@tommyngo1735]

@@kashhenk958 price gets left out there to dry even in the playoffs so many odd man rushes only reliable defenseman they have is weber petry and chairot

[@kashhenk958]

Tommy Ngo yeah in the playoffs he played very good against high danger shots, but in the last 2-3 years the Canadiens have played a good defensive system and along with the 3 defensemen you mentioned they have very good defensive forwards like danault and honestly most of their top 6F are defensively reliable

[@DrummerGuyCaam]

I mean let’s not over look the fact that Price has lost many games because no forward in Montreal knows how to score consistently 😉 that’s why I can’t wait for the future ! Bring on the Caufield baby.

[@leafsfanforever2896]

Give Juolevi some time, people. He needs time to make it and come back from his injuries

[@iCoolaxe]

Next season is definitely very much make or break for Juolevi.

[@Rev201287]

He will be the next Edler on the Canucks IMO.

[@vancitycanucks]

@@Rev201287 agreed

[@nhlvan]

At the age of 22 and not making the NHL full time, historically it tells ya that Juolevi has essentially zero chance to become a high end D at this point. All we can hope for is a decent 2nd pairing at the very highest end.

[@vancitycanucks]

@@nhlvan that's not really true now is it? See Duncan Keith.

[@Masterpiece4590]

Keep grinding courageous man! You'll do good for yourself.

[@blues.baseball.badanxiety]

rob before every single ranking: "and this one is obvious to me..." also the level on which you love elias petterson is uncanny lol

[@jakgibb7055]

I like how he seemed more excited for the first yakupov category than hall of fame

[@noahquesnelle5429]

Juillevi underated when he plays next year he’s gonna rip it up!! Petey is hof

[@adlap6700]

66 points gets you into the hall these days?

[@noahquesnelle5429]

Adam Laperriere he was out a few games and the season was cut short

[@jeremyhuard1537]

@@noahquesnelle5429 He’s to young to put him in the HOF category

[@noahquesnelle5429]

@@jeremyhuard1537 this just a terrible comment lmao olli 10000% a bust and Pete prolly still superstar

[@jeremyhuard1537]

@@noahquesnelle5429 When did I say that he wasn’t a superstar?

[@deniskolkin6341]

Good list as always a few disagreements. Torres (setting aside the headshots), probably is an above average player for many years, the last two Hayton and Turcotte are unknown at this point. Otherwise agree with everything. Great videos - hoping you make a 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 video as well.

[@ryanheppell8348]

Dude love this ranking thing! You should do a video on most consistent goalies of the 2000’s (unless my blind eyes missed something like that)

[@1whyfren185]

this was posted while I was at school, now I have a break

[@westalkshockey231]

Just did mine a couple days ago! Love it rob we have the same list!

[@brycescarlett2184]

You forgot about Ryan Whitney’s Quebec Peewee championship for awards

[@kadindiehl7521]

Who tf is disliking robs videos?

[@scooterelway9191]

awesome content as usual!

[@AceMatthew25414]

If Price isn't HOF 😤😅 Edit: haha perfect call

[@landonleavitt7567]

I’m curious to see the 6th I’m a huge Tkachuk fan and am curious how u think he matches with the other picks!

[@jeffpro987]

Daniel was over 20 yrs ago

[@jeffpro987]

Refer to comment bro

[@jeffpro987]

You are right my bad, Eric Brewer was 5th, Daniel right behind, Barrie Colts Legend, 1st overall before Jumbo Joe

[@jeffpro987]

@Mike Schwab exactly, look it up but he was 6th opps

[@jeffpro987]

@Mike Schwab props to Dan come on, drafted before Jumbo Joe, very good Bert Templeton, may you rest in peace

[@colbygeiger8776]

It is interesting how you say petterson is the next Datsyuk don’t get me wrong I can see it but his style of play reminds me a lot of ovi

[@RobTalksHockey]

Yeah that is what is crazy about him. He has an Ovi 1 timer, Crosby passing, and Datsyuk defence. It makes no sense.

[@burnv664]

My 6th overall picks tier list: Hall of Fame: Superstar: Mikko Koivu, All Star: Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Mika Zibenajad, Sean Monahan Above Average: Scott Hartnell, Derrick Brassard, Sam Gagner, Cody Glass, Filip Zadina Meh: Milan Michalek, Brett Conolly, Hampus Lindholm, Pavel Zacha Massive Letdown: Scottie Upshall, Jake Virtanen Bust: Al Montoya, Gilbert Brule, Nikita Filatov,

[@SKC_Digital]

I can't believe Elias Petterson was skipped by FOUR teams! Hot damn

[@jacobkotai1881]

He was actually projected to go around 7th. The Canucks picking him was considered a reach at the time.

[@SKC_Digital]

@@jacobkotai1881 Craziness

[@quinlanb7193]

Morgan rielly was playing injured all season-and with cody ceci-so I’d say this season shouldn’t really count as much towards his rankings, we’ll have to see what he does next season

[@rydenhaze10]

10:26 imagine if adam fox and dougie hamilton played on the flames first defence pairings 🥲

[@vaughncloutier9016]

I’m glad that Rielly got way better Defense partners to play with after the 2019-20 season.

[@UntarWow]

Van boys categorized like a true van fan. Gj

[@patriksodin2301]

Do u think vancouver will get mark boroweicki btw I lived in Vancouver so I'm a huge Vancouver fan

[@patriksodin2301]

Whoever reads this god bless u

[@goodmanwiseman303]

I think you (and all Canucks fans) really jumped the gun on Elias Pettersson. Sitting at 192nd in the league in points, averaging half a point per game. Had 2 good seasons, and everyone thought he was a dark horse McDavid...

[@nikitakoochierov739]

Now Luke Schenn was a big piece in Tampa’s cup

[@dann60000]

Love the music choice

[@mattdoe04]

I watched dal colle when he was with the gens. He looked like a solid player.

[@travisanderson893]

Are you going to do a 6th overall tier list? I would love that.

[@carson361]

Morgan rielly was hurt all season he came out and said that he was injured. I don’t think that’s fair about him

[@michaelsteiger3043]

Thanks for the pettersson highlights

[@kingknightboss]

5th Overall picks >>> 2nd, 3red, 4th overall picks

[@gavinnartowicz4534]

Could you do your top 50 players based off of just this year

[@bourquistime3708]

Is luke schenn still down there after a cup win

[@FS84727]

Another banger video

[@timothykatch1855]

Torres was great! Grit player played close to the line and crossed the line sometimes. You cant play that close to the line night after night without crossing it once in a while.

[@machinegunc1325]

And then he does 5 somersaults past it

[@CoolGorillaGoAnimate7000]

Yep remember when Carey Price looked to have hockey left in his career? Those were the days.

[@n4te257]

As a sens fan i hope we get this years 5th pick right!

[@quintonb3327]

I wouldn't put Nino Niederreiter's bad first year on him. How do you play a rookie 50+ games with a single goal and a terrible plus minus of -29 without thinking maybe he isn't ready yet?

[@MiroHeinonen]

Why are Barrett Hayton and Alex Turcotte not here?

[@trystan_talks_hockey]

5:05 does he though😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@christianacosta4013]

Hate the Canucks but I agree with the placement of Pettersson . Also thanks for passing on tkachuk

[@zebrasarenothorses]

Honestly, you could make an argument for Phil to make it into the Hall of Fame at the pace he's going. By the time he retires; he'll have many accolades to his resume.

[@CooLBreezexl]

Nino and Dal Colle are victims of a horrible front office and coaching staff. Yes, the NYI have seemingly done better in recent years, but they straight up just threw those two kids onto their 4th lines when they were BAD. I remember raging about this because I felt both players could become all stars, but they were never given a legitimate shot at developing.

[@Hushoo]

You're doing European players dirty by not going to their Eliteprospects page and checking their player pronunciation there.

[@jackb9830]

I would have put Luke Shen in the meh category and Micheal Del Cole in the bust category. Other than that, I think you are on point.

[@Looch1717]

Its kind of funny how the "above average" tier has more players above it than below it.

[@codyalves3862]

How much better could someone like Kessel be if he took his conditioning more serious? I put Vanek in that same boat (but obviously not as good) .

[@matthewdrayton3798]

Agree 1000000000000000000000000000000%

[@TheHotmitch]

Didn't you only review 18?

[@owenritzie1779]

dude didnt mention reilly playing most of the year hurt but mentions the regression because of it

[@TheDenigreur]

I would drop Whitney a peg. Though to say a guy was an all-star when he had difficulty playing more than half a season for the majority of his career and his stats outisde of the Pens aren't good at all.

[@KarlSeed29PNE]

The one thing I took from that is: Islanders draft picks don't pan out when they're at the Islanders!!

[@Hushoo]

Morgan Rielly's best partner has been Ron Hainsey. Think about that - an aging defender that plays on his off side.

[@itsclainky3010]

Phil not in the hof?

[@KiLLKiNDLY]

As a Flames fan I would have put Pettersson in Hall of Fame.

[@chitownfaithful6301]

I’m sure he’ll end up there, but he’s got a lot of hockey left to play

[@elwizschold]

My OCD acts up when someone uses PPG as "points per game" rather than "power play goals" :D

[@wasabihansen]

PPG Arena.

[@HerbertHoover38]

You should do this for a redraft😏

[@Gus-ek7db]

Go to till pick 11

[@kanegarvey3188]

Hell, do them all.

[@QuinnToenniesgaming]

Ryan Whitney’s GOTTA be one

[@dereklasker5350]

Lol remember when there was a debate of pettersson vs Mittelstadt and it was actually close? Hahahahaha good times (Runs away crying)

[@gershomtan5879]

Nah i dont remember this at all for some reason

[@dereklasker5350]

Gershom Tan it was pre 2018-19, Corey pronman had them 1 and 2 as best prospects in the league and everyone was talking about how the Calder was gonna be between them

[@joshrusso8788]

Do best pick of each round of all the drafts. Maybe do 2-3 drafts per video so they’re not super short and have to make 20 videos

[@dereklasker5350]

I love me some Thomas vanek but all star is correct for him. He was a very could sniper that could play with a playmaking center like Briere or Roy but once they left and he was the top dog he couldn’t carry

[@SuperMooselight]

Hotdog man is a hall of famer, change my mind

[@zukothegoat]

after this year lindholm is def superstar

[@silverdragon996]

Morgan Reilly is superstar tier, not only is he a 72 point d man who plays solid defense, is he really at the same level as perron?

[@eventhorizon9535]

Not to mention he played this entire season injured......... He looked completely different in the play-in after some long needed rest

[@mathewhunter2085]

Luke should at least get a meh. Hes played almost 800 games. That is respectable for a 5th overall pick.

[@TheMattboudreau]

You have kessel and wheeler in superstar, but matthews in all star

[@alchemilk]

love the respect for pettey and Rielly, but Rielly has been consistently a terrible defensive guy, but he is one of the best if not the best offensive defenseman in the league, last year he was clearly the best defenseman despite bing bad defensively, that says something about his offence, which is unlike Carlson, Carlson's offence isn't good enough to be the best, also Pettey is sorta like Datsyuk right now, at least the closest comparison to him. Also pettey is easily a top 10 player, was debatably the best centre in the league this year, and debtably a top 5 centre over a 2-3 year analysis scale

[@TheSilverFX]

Whitney should have been in Above Average... And Dal Colle in Massive Bust (Yakupov tier) considering he's struggling to find a niche into the league

[@jenniferolah4274]

Damn Pettersson is so young Datsyuk

[@YoPierre1]

Keep doong this series until you get to 31

[@s.p.8508]

I still think it is too early to classify Pettersson as “Superstar.” Imo a player needs at least 2 80+ point seasons to earn that title.

[@halla8083]

yup. and pettersson hasnt hit 30g or 70pts yet...but he is a superstar lol. I think EP will be a superstar but yeah until he drops a 30-40g/90+pt season I wouldn't have him there. All-star with superstar potential

[@generalroro21]

great vid, but u need a smaller face cam

[@romanmckechnie679]

brayden = wins cup in 2019... luke = wins cup in 2020

[@melindapokolinski305]

Me: who’s nail yakopov? Someone else: he’s a nail

[@brandonw189]

Ryan Whitney, less than 500 games in the NHL and two good seasons? If we're talking consistency, guy is at best above average. Also Luke Schenn has to be higher, at least higher than Karl Alzner, who is playing in the minors.

[@beauwallbridge5490]

Schenn isn't in the minors while Alzner is because of their contract differences.

[@SceptileSlash]

I actually agree with everyone on this list

[@vancitycanucks]

Petey is HOF. Calling it.

[@TheRevanchist17]

Jose Theodore won the Hart in 2002, might wanna check ur facts before saying no goalie has won the mvp in the last 20 years

[@RobTalksHockey]

To start, Theodore won 18 years ago, which is pretty dang close to 20. And i was actually referring to Ted Lindsay/Hart which was Dominik Hasek in 1998, which is 22 years ago

[@aidanw9378]

Anyone who is only above average at 5th overall is a letdown. Hanifin is a good defenceman for sure but considering his placement he's a letdown

[@NiceBoyAdam]

Chill with that top 10 player in the league with petterson 🤣🤣🤣 let him hit top 10 center before you start talking top 10 player.

[@samuraijim9243]

Luke Schenn letdown? I've watched the draft for over 30 years and there are only 2 players drafted the I called they would win the Stanley Cup on Draft Day. Luke Schenn and Nathan Horton. I was right on both counts. Luke Schenn looked like a Scott Stevens stay at home shutdown defensemen out of junior and while he may not be at that level he has been a top 4 physical D-man and was part of the super deep Tampa team that just won the cup.

[@riot121212]

juolevi has played a game in the nhl...

[@AngeWange]

Tbh im still not sure why yall hate on Nail that much. Like i get , 1st overall and doesnt play in the nhl anymore and had a low point total, but i mean he would have been a sold nhler, just not 1st overall skill

[@shakrmakr]

I played against Vanek in a tournament and I was leading scorer of that tournament and now I’m hear commenting on a KZbin post and he is in the NHL. 😭😭😭

[@vmi4172]

Phil Kessel super-star?? YEA OK.

[@blap5630]

Ryan Strome should be meh tbh. Rielly should be superstar. He only regressed Cus he was playing through injury the whole season. From a pure offensive standpoint he’s top 3 for nhl dmen.

[@ilai7893]

Lol if Schenn is massive letdown how is Alzner not? At least Luke is playing in the NHL with Tampa

[@RobTalksHockey]

Because for 7 years Alzner was a respectable top 4 defensemen, whereas Schenn has mainly been a depth defensemen in his career. Recall that it is about their entire careers, not recency bias.

[@ilai7893]

@@RobTalksHockey I mean I guess so, but the fact that he's been buried in the minors means he's a large dead weight, whereas Luke is definitely still serviceable and was top 4 himself for years. Guess we agree to disagree lol

[@nicodemus-22]

you were biast with pete