RANKING THE TOP 32 DISC GOLFERS BY SIDEARM!? Vlogmas Day 11

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Simon Lizotte

Simon Lizotte

Күн бұрын

It's about time for another Tier-List 😃 !! Today we are looking at the forehand skills of the top 32 disc golf pro tour players. Casey White is joining me today because he always knows what I don't know. Especially when it comes to stats and the players I haven't played with that often. Hope you enjoy because we certainly did!
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@idaho_rex
@idaho_rex 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin goes to a B simply because Natalia likes him.
@ICreepsItReal
@ICreepsItReal 4 жыл бұрын
Saw that coming! 🤣
@alitabattlechicken9732
@alitabattlechicken9732 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone likes KJUSA!
@harrisc2093
@harrisc2093 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😅
@tommyislander4880
@tommyislander4880 4 жыл бұрын
gold
@harrisc2093
@harrisc2093 4 жыл бұрын
@@tommyislander4880 simon needs to start getting some squats in...
@ptbfrch
@ptbfrch 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Jones definitely an A. Eric Oakley too.
@masterho2350
@masterho2350 4 жыл бұрын
These were the two I disagreed with as well.
@xmisterblackhatx
@xmisterblackhatx 4 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@dramnol
@dramnol 4 жыл бұрын
@@xmisterblackhatx agreed, also marwede is at least an A
@josemartin4431
@josemartin4431 4 жыл бұрын
yup, and Barsby could be argued into S.
@MrGodspeedubenny
@MrGodspeedubenny 4 жыл бұрын
I literally let out an audible WHAT? when KJUSA was not an A
@evanstanek5838
@evanstanek5838 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@brettdodds1277
@brettdodds1277 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@stuartwalker6409
@stuartwalker6409 4 жыл бұрын
lol cause in his last video his fiancé said that she liked him out of nowhere then said hes funny hahahaha
@cam_squarepants
@cam_squarepants 4 жыл бұрын
It’s cause they put Barsby in A when he should be S so it made the A category too hard to get into.
@josephwunrow121
@josephwunrow121 4 жыл бұрын
For sure, dude!
@jcrow62
@jcrow62 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Jones, Eric Oakley and Uli are all A's in my book.
@jasonmansir9204
@jasonmansir9204 4 жыл бұрын
Thats EXACTLY what i was going to say!
@joshhill5932
@joshhill5932 4 жыл бұрын
Same i was thinking. I would even say Kevin Jones is a very strong A.
@dawson_beck32
@dawson_beck32 4 жыл бұрын
100% agree, i was shocked that eric oakley didn't at least get A haha
@Meta-Drew
@Meta-Drew 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@ajfarber4805
@ajfarber4805 4 жыл бұрын
1000000%
@LowGuppy
@LowGuppy 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin is an A if not S. It might've been a B+ before, but in 2020 it was A+
@kole_thomas3754
@kole_thomas3754 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally agree the only one that can compete with eagle in distance
@MeantForNothing
@MeantForNothing 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah did you see his throws on dglo, keeping up with eagles forehand.
@mntwinsfan1988
@mntwinsfan1988 4 жыл бұрын
Why Kevin??
@muckertheblimp1874
@muckertheblimp1874 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@videosverigenu4621
@videosverigenu4621 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. At least A maybe higher
@ncdozer3103
@ncdozer3103 4 жыл бұрын
Rickys sidearm scramble game is in a league of its own
@Archizombie
@Archizombie 4 жыл бұрын
Rick is the best scrambler, change my mind!
@trevorfrancis916
@trevorfrancis916 4 жыл бұрын
@@Archizombie definitely the best! He was a magician with the harp now he is a wizard with the pig. He would be in a whole different tier in scrambling.
@Nitron2097
@Nitron2097 4 жыл бұрын
Park Piggy Parked.
@CJ-hg2yh
@CJ-hg2yh 4 жыл бұрын
I always tell myself to channel my inner ricky when I'm scrambling. Somehow it works. Gotten multiple pars out of nothing. Try it.
@GoWithTh3Flow
@GoWithTh3Flow 3 жыл бұрын
@@Archizombie No need to change your mind, the stats speak for themselves. The man is a scramble artist
@ICrankDiscGolf
@ICrankDiscGolf 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but Eric Oakley is an A hes side arm heavy, and he has a better sidearm then adam
@Pullapelle
@Pullapelle 4 жыл бұрын
Crank 6 Absolutely true. Eric is an obvious A. As is KJ. Other than that, the list is pretty accurate...
@tima5033
@tima5033 4 жыл бұрын
I'd put Eric and KJ in the S category because they can both throw all the angles really accurately
@charliesawyer8327
@charliesawyer8327 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree.
@mortendmortensen
@mortendmortensen 4 жыл бұрын
came to say this!
@PotatoGobbler_
@PotatoGobbler_ 4 жыл бұрын
When you're sitting still like this, just put your lens in manual focus. That way it doesn't have a chance to jump around like that.
@Penkkuthehotdogg
@Penkkuthehotdogg 4 жыл бұрын
I thought you were talking about your self in your profile picture as a reference😂
@Warkive
@Warkive 4 жыл бұрын
Paul is my favorite player by a significant margin, but I was still a little surprised at how easily he was assigned an S-forehand and how much debate went into Ricky's.
@gfuqua70
@gfuqua70 4 жыл бұрын
Totally Agree! Ricky's forehand is such a weapon and so versatile. Paul's is just damn solid. Hard thing to argue though with guys who have seen it first hand. I know I haven't. But completely agree
@joevegas7443
@joevegas7443 4 жыл бұрын
The knock on Ricky is that he doesn't throw understable side arms.
@levivv
@levivv 4 жыл бұрын
@@joevegas7443 almost no one throws sidearm turnovers except maybe Jerm and Sexton
@philjohnson796
@philjohnson796 4 жыл бұрын
Ricky's sidearm is better- no doubt about it.
@joevegas7443
@joevegas7443 4 жыл бұрын
@@levivv that was Big Jerms criticism of Ricky's forehand.
@gfuqua70
@gfuqua70 4 жыл бұрын
Oakley and Uli are A's. Everything else pretty close. KJUSA and Locastro could be higher. Great job thanks guys!!!!!
@evanstanek5838
@evanstanek5838 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel you on KJ, he's an A in my book. And I think Locastro spit out his Miller Lite when Casey said "300 feet"....those are fighting words to Nikko!!!
@ICreepsItReal
@ICreepsItReal 4 жыл бұрын
Id agree with this for sure! Everything else seems right!
@seanbinder8316
@seanbinder8316 4 жыл бұрын
Uli only looks maybe lower cause he is next to Big Germ alot.
@outandabout259
@outandabout259 4 жыл бұрын
@@seanbinder8316 Uli should take some hand sanitizer with him... Could take care of that problem!
@chillynewberg2652
@chillynewberg2652 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely these two got ROBBED
@patm3802
@patm3802 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Casey's input and logic behind his choices. I mean this in the nicest way possible - I think he's my favorite pro outside the top 50.
@GobbleGobble571
@GobbleGobble571 4 жыл бұрын
My labels based off how they talked about everyone S- World class A- Wins them tournaments B- Will throw off the tee C- Utility D- Scramble
@Dexecute.
@Dexecute. 4 жыл бұрын
The amazing thing about P McB though is that it's not even close to most of his game, yet it's so lethal
@bryceconfer
@bryceconfer 4 жыл бұрын
Would that mean Ricky would be D rating Scramble? He does use it at any point but Majority of the time when he is scrambling he has an amazing forehand for scrambling that im pretty sure gave him #1 scrambler this season.
@name7892
@name7892 4 жыл бұрын
E- Cale Leiviska
@poysunivey
@poysunivey 4 жыл бұрын
@@name7892 agreed. There should’ve been a next to non-existent category.
@ronjones-6977
@ronjones-6977 4 жыл бұрын
@@poysunivey Add me to that list.
@kbaintt2
@kbaintt2 4 жыл бұрын
KJ is definitely an A tier forehand.
@sheeva3.0
@sheeva3.0 4 жыл бұрын
Sexton is going to loose his shit once he finds out your calling it sidearm and not forehand 😭
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 4 жыл бұрын
Both work, the one that does not is flick, as that is a specific type of approach/turbo like shot.
@bud3053
@bud3053 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@dillanmitchell6917
@dillanmitchell6917 4 жыл бұрын
KJ is DEFINITELY in “A!”
@leviscott717
@leviscott717 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice that Eagle’s and Paul’s picture blend so well with the tree in the background? Lol
@jennycraigadventures3314
@jennycraigadventures3314 4 жыл бұрын
Like they’re posing together leaning against the same tree 😂
@jake_a_g
@jake_a_g 4 жыл бұрын
0_0
@henrymanahan2764
@henrymanahan2764 4 жыл бұрын
AB is throwing 450 ft sidearms *easy* at vista for the past couple weeks it's pretty dang good
@thejellydonut7587
@thejellydonut7587 4 жыл бұрын
I get that Sexton didn't tour this year, but with how good his sidearm is I'd have really liked to see him on this list.
@garydowns8364
@garydowns8364 4 жыл бұрын
Nate Sexton’s sidearm has always been an “S”. Who can argue with that??
@derekdussault5941
@derekdussault5941 4 жыл бұрын
KJ USA Needs to bump up to an A for sure!!
@allenruiz1585
@allenruiz1585 4 жыл бұрын
KJUSA is a SOLID A!! Along with E Oakley!
@DanielDowling
@DanielDowling 4 жыл бұрын
I think kevin's sidearm has got to be an A
@tomthefall
@tomthefall 4 жыл бұрын
He's an S for me
@davidpfrey
@davidpfrey 4 жыл бұрын
There are lots of rounds with Eagle and Kevin in the same card. Watch one of those and tell me that Eagle isn't a league above. I do think Kevin is an "A" though.
@TIDiscGolf
@TIDiscGolf 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Oakley, Uli, kev Jones belong in A without a doubt!
@A.J.K87
@A.J.K87 4 жыл бұрын
I think Nate Sexton deserved an honorable mention. I know he isn't top 32 this year because of Covid, but he is up there in the S category for sure.
@michaelsarastorozuk5614
@michaelsarastorozuk5614 4 жыл бұрын
I know you can’t add him to the list, but you’ve gotta give a shout-out to Nate Sexton when you’re talking about sidearm players.
@josephcurry7710
@josephcurry7710 4 жыл бұрын
Come on, give Kevin his due and put him in A at least
@bidcs_
@bidcs_ 4 жыл бұрын
kevins sidearm is so good
@evanstanek5838
@evanstanek5838 4 жыл бұрын
same
@cpnpmp94
@cpnpmp94 4 жыл бұрын
The Hammes placement was perfect. Underrated for sure but his forehand is phenomenal and he leans on it a lot.
@discblaster9210
@discblaster9210 4 жыл бұрын
Omg, you guys put Clemons and Hammes, both A tier, above Barsby the real S tier sidearm
@chillynewberg2652
@chillynewberg2652 4 жыл бұрын
They pointed out barsby's drop to A was because the distance. He only gets 400' on average for a full distance shot. That isn't S tier. There are amateurs that out throw that
@discblaster9210
@discblaster9210 4 жыл бұрын
@@chillynewberg2652 you just made up that Barsby only throws 400 forehand. Not true first of all, second Big jerm throws less than 450 forehand unless he goes out of his socks. Barsbys forehand is longer than jerms
@baldvinornolason1701
@baldvinornolason1701 4 жыл бұрын
@@chillynewberg2652 You can say whatever you want. Barsby is top 5 of all time with sidearm. Anybody disputing that has no clue.
@Adestria66
@Adestria66 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see you two dudes kill it this next season! We need some Lizotte/White main cards!
@HeronMarkHero
@HeronMarkHero 4 жыл бұрын
Hot Take: Austin Hannum does not have an S tier sidearm.
@Penkkuthehotdogg
@Penkkuthehotdogg 4 жыл бұрын
He has a good one but definitely not a S.
@JessCat606
@JessCat606 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@DocChompers
@DocChompers 4 жыл бұрын
Why is nobody complaining about Emerson's B? He's at least A
@jasonmansir9204
@jasonmansir9204 4 жыл бұрын
Oakley, Jones, and Uli belong in A. Gurthie in D. I literally yelled at my computer with your choices with these 4 🤣. Otherwise every decision was exactly the same
@nolanramser8277
@nolanramser8277 4 жыл бұрын
Oakleys forehead is like between A and S... definitely not B lol
@reedcole5780
@reedcole5780 4 жыл бұрын
one of the smoothest foreheads in discgolf
@p.w.7051
@p.w.7051 4 жыл бұрын
@@reedcole5780 LOL, I got that.
@ryanhaggerty
@ryanhaggerty 4 жыл бұрын
Guys, Sexton and Jerm put Barsby in their top 5 forehands of all time. He’s an S. Insane he’s in A. Paul M = A. Ricky was a no brainer S and crazy there was any doubt. Kevin Jones is an easy A.
@hudsonknox4296
@hudsonknox4296 4 жыл бұрын
Felt the same about Barsby. They got this one wrong for sure.
@bradyoch6208
@bradyoch6208 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your analysis of all of these except that I feel Ricky could arguably be placed in A or S.
@kingtrav
@kingtrav 4 жыл бұрын
Please someone who knows cameras reach out to Simon and help him with the focus
@bigjermdg
@bigjermdg 4 жыл бұрын
I'll go ahead and end the debate on any wrongly ranked players. Regarding the S category - Austin Hannum and Barsby should be flipped. Barsby has had a spot in my top 5 all time sidearms list for a long time. He has no business in the A category. He possesses all the power anyone needs to get the job done. A category - Chris Dickerson, Kevin Jones, Eric Oakley, AB and Uli are all A's, and I would have strongly considered giving Andrew Marwede and Emerson Keith a spot in there as well. There are a ton of highly skilled forehand players in the game right now. You could almost place the entire B category in with the A's. B category - everything else seems fine. C category - get Conrad out of here lol my bro belongs exactly where he'd place himself, and that's with the rest of the D's. My dude went almost 2 consecutive years without throwing a forehand tee shot. Hole 1 at USDGC ruined his streak. D category - nailed it lol
@bud3053
@bud3053 4 жыл бұрын
Gregg Barsby: Jerm puts him at 3rd best side arm ever:B tier /Really?
@mattsnyder4754
@mattsnyder4754 4 жыл бұрын
Jerm’s ranking (as far as I’ve seen) is always an “all time” ranking. Historically, yes Barsby is top 5. Right now? Nah.
@bud3053
@bud3053 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion that’s what’s keeping Gregg competitive in tournament. Other parts of his game were not dialed in, but his sidearm was in my opinion.
@cautiousoptimist1926
@cautiousoptimist1926 4 жыл бұрын
Barsby is a magician with his sidearm, and he throws further than they gave him credit for.
@bud3053
@bud3053 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@AVandelay2000
@AVandelay2000 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed - Barsby’s sidearm is easy S. Easy.
@RagingGolfer
@RagingGolfer 4 жыл бұрын
I think those name are well placed, Casey and Simon make the best videos together
@Beeray11
@Beeray11 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing Barsby go to anything but the highest tier of sidearms is fuggin bonkers.
@romantisch2797
@romantisch2797 4 жыл бұрын
Barsby has one of the all time best sidearms
@earlthomas6295
@earlthomas6295 4 жыл бұрын
We all know why Kevin Jones got the ranking he got.
@jasonmansir9204
@jasonmansir9204 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know why....what do you mean
@andrewadams4982
@andrewadams4982 4 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂
@brandonniles4685
@brandonniles4685 4 жыл бұрын
Jason watch the video where simon introduces his gf
@kalanschat1200
@kalanschat1200 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmansir9204 check out the video with simons girlfriend and what she says about kevin. Also it's a joke haha
@jasonmansir9204
@jasonmansir9204 4 жыл бұрын
I did watch it. I never miss a Simon video! 🤣 But I do know now. I remember ha
@nmkloster
@nmkloster 4 жыл бұрын
I played Berlin Open around 8 years ago. Simon was injured and thus played predominantly sidearm. I was insanely impressed seeing him park a 110 meter low ceiling tunnel shot. But that is exactly the one shot he's talking about he has.
@timmoore9943
@timmoore9943 4 жыл бұрын
I think Kevin Jones should be moved up
@Kinsmen77
@Kinsmen77 4 жыл бұрын
100%
@ccdiscs5790
@ccdiscs5790 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely they got that one wrong
@AndrewWhiteKhanty
@AndrewWhiteKhanty 4 жыл бұрын
S: Koling, Mcbeth, McMahon, Wysocki, Marwede A: Dickerson, Heimburg, Jones, Ulibarri
@elijahmedlock849
@elijahmedlock849 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, Kevin, Eric I think should all be moved to A bit over agreed with the rest
@joshsmith3836
@joshsmith3836 4 жыл бұрын
KJ, oakly, and probably dickerson should be in A. I think barsby is S tier
@thelivingtribunal5117
@thelivingtribunal5117 4 жыл бұрын
Marwede's forehand is elite. I just saw him skip one off a basket at the CHO, in Gainesville, from over 450ft...he threw several others elite distances as well, with accuracy. I judge him worthy of an S, well maybe an A for now, until he "proves it", but you'll see next year This dude hucks power forehands like few I've seen, and I've seen them all play live. OK, it wasn't 450ft but trust me, this dude bombs.
@ionymous6733
@ionymous6733 4 жыл бұрын
I rewatched you two sitting back in unison at 0:16 four times. That was special
@ethanl4567
@ethanl4567 4 жыл бұрын
Hannum, McBeth, AB, KJ and Oakley should all be A.
@BrainSane237
@BrainSane237 4 жыл бұрын
I would say Oakley, maybe Uli but especially Kevin Jones is A. Kevin has my absolute favorite technique. It looks so smooth, easy power, perfect balance.
@logant9437
@logant9437 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin is friggin awesome, but are you going to use Kevin and the words 'perfect balance' in the same sentence? Really? Okay, maybe I'm thinking backhand. Okay... ;)
@BrainSane237
@BrainSane237 4 жыл бұрын
@@logant9437 Strictly speaking of forehand here. Only.
@MrTerbman
@MrTerbman 4 жыл бұрын
Swap Hannum and Barsby, bump up KJ and Oakley and we're good. Jerm may need his own tier since he has every forehand shot possible.
@marscruz
@marscruz 4 жыл бұрын
Demi-god level? Barsby has all the angles too. He's experienced and a great scrambler.
@RBWeaver97
@RBWeaver97 4 жыл бұрын
Nah Hannum needs to stay, dudes got a killer sidearm
@traviswestcott8870
@traviswestcott8870 4 жыл бұрын
i love lacastro he is my favorite player since he started, but i think they got it right and he will feed off of this and make his game better. was so happy to see him come back and not change who he is I love it You Got A Win Coming Bud!!!
@saltysomers1988
@saltysomers1988 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Oakley deserves to de A+ or S-. You guys are cray
@jimboslice3646
@jimboslice3646 4 жыл бұрын
KJ is an A for sure. He proved he has an amazing forehand this year.
@fodank
@fodank 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you got Ricky right. I learned from your video to watch Marwede. Thanks for this. Casey is on point. Cheers, D.
@christophermasteller6726
@christophermasteller6726 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Oakley should have been in the A tier! I think his forehand game is incredibly strong and technical. I definitely think he should have out ranked Adam, even though Adam has an amazing forehand game. When you think about Eric Oakley's game, the first think that comes to mind is his forehand. Hands down, he should be in the A tier list.
@JoeSmith-lr3fo
@JoeSmith-lr3fo 4 жыл бұрын
I love vlogmas!!! The fact that Casey is on the vlog is a plus too.
@jtdiscgolf2520
@jtdiscgolf2520 4 жыл бұрын
Nice list. Still dreaming about that bag. I can’t wait to see who wins that great Christmas gift. Keep up the awesome content Simon and looking forward to watching you next season.
@jamesreavis403
@jamesreavis403 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty accurate. I would move Oakley and Jones up to A.
@garcia858rose
@garcia858rose 4 жыл бұрын
Kev Jones should be in the A category
@bradyoch6208
@bradyoch6208 4 жыл бұрын
Hot take: Eagle's forehand is an A, not an S. His distance is insane, but the shot shaping is not to the level of a truly spectacular forehand thrower. This was not the only thing I would change, just something I'm not seeing anyone else comment on.
@ryanmillhollin9324
@ryanmillhollin9324 4 жыл бұрын
They really emphasized distance the most it seems. Barsby not in S is embarrassing
@awildschuetz1
@awildschuetz1 4 жыл бұрын
If Hannum’s an S, then KJ is an S! Those two are always bickering over who’s better!
@RBWeaver97
@RBWeaver97 4 жыл бұрын
Bro Hannum has no question a better sidearm. At the tour championship this man threw one past the basket on a 470ft hole...through the woods...like what
@bradyoch6208
@bradyoch6208 4 жыл бұрын
@@RBWeaver97 Power isn't everything. Have you ever seen him throw as technically beautiful of a forehand as KJ did on hole 14 Hornets Nest? And Kevin is no slouch in distance either. Maybe not as far as Hannum's but he can out it out there 450'.
@RBWeaver97
@RBWeaver97 4 жыл бұрын
@@bradyoch6208 considering Hannum’s forehand is what got him to the tour yes, I have seen him throw super touch/technical forehands. He was a college pitcher, he’s clearly got accuracy. I’m not saying KJ doesn’t have those shots but Hannum checks every box with his forehand and just slightly edges him out
@bovts12
@bovts12 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are the best Simon - I wish you a happy holiday season and a speedy recovery this offseason! I know you’ll come back ready to shred, no matter how long that may be. Keep pushing! 👊
@flipflat4814
@flipflat4814 4 жыл бұрын
Drew Gibson's sidearm is way better than what you gave him credit for, I've seen it. It's powerful and accurate, but because he doesn't need it because of his ability to manipulate a disc on a late turn all the way to the ground, it doesn't get showcased often.
@joshwilson2908
@joshwilson2908 4 жыл бұрын
Ok dude, one of these videos you have to include Page Pierce with the guys
@kimmomatikainen1843
@kimmomatikainen1843 4 жыл бұрын
Why? She is not in top 32 ranking and she is not on top of the list in any category. There is over 100 better players than Paige is. She is great and the best FPO player especially in courses with open and long holes, but she is quite far behind top players in the world.
@joshwilson2908
@joshwilson2908 4 жыл бұрын
@@kimmomatikainen1843 I bet you she could beat Lizotte on a course
@baldvinornolason1701
@baldvinornolason1701 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshwilson2908 So could my mother after 15.000 attempts. Doesn't mean she's in the same league.
@joshwilson2908
@joshwilson2908 4 жыл бұрын
@@baldvinornolason1701 page pierce is in another league when it comes to the women and don’t even at me
@baldvinornolason1701
@baldvinornolason1701 4 жыл бұрын
@@joshwilson2908 "page pierce is in another league when it comes to the women" So what? If she's not a top player she is not a top player. Should we also throw the best 12 year old on the list because he's in a different league in terms of ability compared to other 12 year olds? These lists are about the best in the world. If Paige is supposed to be on the list she has to get better or they might make a list of the best female players.
@lschat7148
@lschat7148 4 жыл бұрын
No way Locastro's sidearm is the same level as Conrad's or Gibson's. He should be B
@taylorfair8102
@taylorfair8102 4 жыл бұрын
Here to give Oakley the A love he deserves
@benjohnson185
@benjohnson185 4 жыл бұрын
Im here to give him the md he deserves for millennial douchebag
@WhalePants
@WhalePants 4 жыл бұрын
@@benjohnson185 why u so mad?
@MrFozzDawg
@MrFozzDawg 4 жыл бұрын
Love these! I'd say your pretty close IMO! I'd Move KJUSA and Emmerson Keith up to A and Nikko to at least B.
@everettcorder5977
@everettcorder5977 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Oakley should be an A for sure. Glad to see Clemons get the love! Dude’s sidearm is filthy.
@marckaplan395
@marckaplan395 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin, Uli and Chris are all solid As, other than those pretty spot on.
@twopartbiblestudies7477
@twopartbiblestudies7477 4 жыл бұрын
I know u guys can't be 💯 percent but kevin jones is A side arm. Mcbeth only throws side arm maybe 25 percent of the time. Ricky wysocki without a doubt is S tier should not have even been a debate.
@tspaventa
@tspaventa 4 жыл бұрын
FOCUS SUGGESTION! Simon! Check your focus settings! You just have spot focusing on or something. Probably set to the center of the shot, hence it trying to focus on the background often times in the center of the screen.
@ryankoffel8480
@ryankoffel8480 4 жыл бұрын
Simon, what about ranking top 32 by their DG knowledge and/or strategy?
@caleb6537
@caleb6537 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea! I hope he see’s your comment 🤩
@ThedulcimerguyMatthew
@ThedulcimerguyMatthew 4 жыл бұрын
Eagle McMahon all day on the knowledge.
@fearbefore63
@fearbefore63 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for having constant quality videos
@NickCarroll
@NickCarroll 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a sidearm-only competition between these people. Would be interesting, at least!
@DrewGibson
@DrewGibson 4 жыл бұрын
C? That’s the best compliment I’ve got in 2020 😂🚀🥇
@stephendurning8281
@stephendurning8281 4 жыл бұрын
Vlogmas 11 let's gooooooo
@sandtrav5
@sandtrav5 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin to A, Emerson to A, maybe Oakley to A too.
@jesseaustin3792
@jesseaustin3792 4 жыл бұрын
Emerson isn’t an A
@mikeschroeder7042
@mikeschroeder7042 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez, everybody so up in arms about the camera focus and KJ not being ranked higher. I agree with the latter but whatever. Not like these rankings effect their earnings or anything. And I didnt even notice the focus thing until seeing people comment about it. Thanks for the content Simon. Anything disc golf related helps get us through the winters.
@braydenrace5466
@braydenrace5466 4 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a good one.
@pastorbeaucoffman2214
@pastorbeaucoffman2214 4 жыл бұрын
You guys blew it with KJ. He is at least an A.
@thechesskid
@thechesskid 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the tier maker videos; we need more!
@outandabout259
@outandabout259 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there, Casey Freaking White. Nice to meet you.
@gfuqua70
@gfuqua70 4 жыл бұрын
You dont know Casey? Of just the Freaking White?
@outandabout259
@outandabout259 4 жыл бұрын
@@gfuqua70 I know Casey White. I assumed this... person was maybe a twin or lookalike. Who knows, maybe he is? 🤔
@kyledavis4668
@kyledavis4668 4 жыл бұрын
Keep doing the teir lists! Love these videos!
@supere4206
@supere4206 4 жыл бұрын
Thank y’all for everything merry Christmas happy New Year’s year....!!!!!!
@MK212074
@MK212074 4 жыл бұрын
this comment section is an absolute mess. Kevin has a good sidearm. It's not anywhere near the level of someone like Jerm or even Eagle. He doesn't have the crazy line-shaping ability with understable discs that Jerm has and doesn't have the insane power Eagle has (eagle also does things with an MD3 that 99% of players can not do). He has above average power, and ok finesse, but Kevin releases more forehand wobblers than just about anyone else I see at that level. He gets away with it but is form is not nearly clean enough to be considered on the level of Jerm. I don't think he's quite as low as B but he's definitely not an S. People are correct when they say Oakley should be S. Eric does things with a sidearm that basically only Jerm does as well. His flip-ups are insane. Eric is also the best forehand clinician in the game right now. Ulibarri simply does not throw his sidearm enough these days to be considered an A. He has the finesse, but he doesn't have the power, and he doesn't rely on it as much as he used to a decade ago. Kyle Klein belongs in A. That dude has some insane finesse and big power as well. This will be very obvious very soon. Same with Marwede, his flip-up game is one of the best there is right now. Sorry guys, but your rankings on Kyle and Andrew are pretty much objectively wrong, and it's simply because you don't have enough information. These guys are both A, not even CLOSE to C. Hannum is not an S. dude can throw it far but is WAY too inconsistent and far to reliant on super overstable discs. not even close to being on the level of Jerm or Eagle.
@johnskiles7841
@johnskiles7841 4 жыл бұрын
Your “S” selection is spot on. Maybe would have moved a few more to “A”, but what do I know. I think I’m in the “N” spot for “nonexistent “, LOL U should do a vlog in the “Most terrible shots/lay-ups” :-)
@peds8345
@peds8345 4 жыл бұрын
Damnnnn. KJ got robbed and skipped over so quick. Shocked!
@TCBrown-sj4lp
@TCBrown-sj4lp 4 жыл бұрын
KJ, Oakley, and Uli should be A tier. No doubt. For others you guys said, “do they stack up to AB?” And I would say all three of those guys have better side arms than AB.
@RascalRoscoe
@RascalRoscoe 4 жыл бұрын
I really feel like KJUSA and Oakley are both A's. The fact that you rushed to put McBeth in S but then contemplated A/S with Wysocki was a little suspect. List looks pretty good overall. You may have been hyping Gurthie's sidearm a little lol
@gromba
@gromba 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Oakley is up there with Jerm when it comes to touchy flicks. He can hyzerflip those mids just aswell as Jerm.
@zachnewman5566
@zachnewman5566 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin and Eric absolutely belong in A or S.
@michaelmiller2081
@michaelmiller2081 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin should definitely be in the A category
@epusion
@epusion 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm moving Kevin Jones and Eric Oakley to A class all day.
@ziggybaker3446
@ziggybaker3446 4 жыл бұрын
I'm backhand dominate. I'm sorta ambidextrous though so developing a side-arm hasn't been my priority, but I primarily throw as a lefty. Being able to use my right arm on certain holes definitely gives me an advantage over some I play with, but I'm not always as accurate.
@isivaasanaru5643
@isivaasanaru5643 4 жыл бұрын
Paul McBeth: Why is my sidearm so bad? Simon: Paul's in S.
@carternystrom3105
@carternystrom3105 4 жыл бұрын
Nate Sexton has the sidearm that I've tried to replicate. It's amazing.
@calvincornett7453
@calvincornett7453 4 жыл бұрын
Tier lists are definitely my favorite videos
@meelispea
@meelispea 4 жыл бұрын
As an estonian discgolf fan where would you put Silver Lätt`s sidearm. In Estonia he is absolutley killing it and smoothest siderarm i`ve ever seen. But i haven`t seen these S-tier sidearm players and i thought where would Silver be in your ranking system.
@marscruz
@marscruz 4 жыл бұрын
Silver Lätt has an amazing sidearm. So smooth and effortless. Albert Tamm is another excellent European with a strong sidearm. Hope they can come and play some tournaments in the US in 2021.
@cautiousoptimist1926
@cautiousoptimist1926 4 жыл бұрын
His sidearm form is fantastic; relaxed, compact, a quick hip turn and the disc just shoots out of his hand. I don't think he has the touch of Koling, Barsby or Wysocki, but a solid A. It would be nice to hear Simon's views on the top Europeans.
@eestichuck
@eestichuck 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting Lätt to be in the top half of this list and instead he didn't even make it?
@marscruz
@marscruz 4 жыл бұрын
@@eestichuck It's only because Simon is using the Top 32 list from the PDGA or USDGA. The Europeans couldn't make the list this year because of travel restrictions.
@austinbannen5876
@austinbannen5876 4 жыл бұрын
Marwede 100% has an A tier sidearm
@AndrewWhiteKhanty
@AndrewWhiteKhanty 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Marwede, this guy has the God tier sidearm. I have spoken.
@BIZARBIES
@BIZARBIES 4 жыл бұрын
Cookie Monster is no joke. They are going to eat their words and Andy will eat a Cookie.
@AndrewWhiteKhanty
@AndrewWhiteKhanty 4 жыл бұрын
@@BIZARBIES lol.
@bradgee2059
@bradgee2059 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@benjohnson185
@benjohnson185 4 жыл бұрын
You are a random generic newbie 900 player and noone gives 2 fks what you say
@AndrewWhiteKhanty
@AndrewWhiteKhanty 4 жыл бұрын
@@benjohnson185 Actually I'm 870 rated and Simon probably wouldn't approve of your response.
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