RANKING THE TOP 32 DISC GOLFERS BY SIDEARM!? Vlogmas Day 11

[@idaho_rex]

Kevin goes to a B simply because Natalia likes him.

[@ICreepsItReal]

Saw that coming! 🤣

[@alitabattlechicken9732]

Everyone likes KJUSA!

[@harrisc2093]

😂😂😂😅

[@tommyislander4880]

gold

[@harrisc2093]

@@tommyislander4880 simon needs to start getting some squats in...

[@ptbfrch]

Kevin Jones definitely an A. Eric Oakley too.

[@masterho2350]

These were the two I disagreed with as well.

[@xmisterblackhatx]

Yup!

[@dramnol]

@@xmisterblackhatx agreed, also marwede is at least an A

[@josemartin4431]

yup, and Barsby could be argued into S.

[@MrGodspeedubenny]

I literally let out an audible WHAT? when KJUSA was not an A

[@evanstanek5838]

Same

[@brettdodds1277]

Yep

[@stuartwalker6409]

lol cause in his last video his fiancé said that she liked him out of nowhere then said hes funny hahahaha

[@cam_squarepants]

It’s cause they put Barsby in A when he should be S so it made the A category too hard to get into.

[@josephwunrow121]

For sure, dude!

[@jcrow62]

Kevin Jones, Eric Oakley and Uli are all A's in my book.

[@jasonmansir9204]

Thats EXACTLY what i was going to say!

[@joshhill5932]

Same i was thinking. I would even say Kevin Jones is a very strong A.

[@dawson_beck32]

100% agree, i was shocked that eric oakley didn't at least get A haha

[@Meta-Drew]

Agree 100%

[@ajfarber4805]

1000000%

[@LowGuppy]

Kevin is an A if not S. It might've been a B+ before, but in 2020 it was A+

[@kole_thomas3754]

Yeah totally agree the only one that can compete with eagle in distance

[@MeantForNothing]

Yeah did you see his throws on dglo, keeping up with eagles forehand.

[@mntwinsfan1988]

Why Kevin??

[@muckertheblimp1874]

Agreed

[@videosverigenu4621]

Yeah. At least A maybe higher

[@ncdozer3103]

Rickys sidearm scramble game is in a league of its own

[@Archizombie]

Rick is the best scrambler, change my mind!

[@trevorfrancis916]

@@Archizombie definitely the best! He was a magician with the harp now he is a wizard with the pig. He would be in a whole different tier in scrambling.

[@Nitron2097]

Park Piggy Parked.

[@CJ-hg2yh]

I always tell myself to channel my inner ricky when I'm scrambling. Somehow it works. Gotten multiple pars out of nothing. Try it.

[@GoWithTh3Flow]

@@Archizombie No need to change your mind, the stats speak for themselves. The man is a scramble artist

[@ICrankDiscGolf]

I'm sorry but Eric Oakley is an A hes side arm heavy, and he has a better sidearm then adam

[@Pullapelle]

Crank 6 Absolutely true. Eric is an obvious A. As is KJ. Other than that, the list is pretty accurate...

[@tima5033]

I'd put Eric and KJ in the S category because they can both throw all the angles really accurately

[@charliesawyer8327]

I completely agree.

[@mortendmortensen]

came to say this!

[@PotatoGobbler_]

When you're sitting still like this, just put your lens in manual focus. That way it doesn't have a chance to jump around like that.

[@Penkkuthehotdogg]

I thought you were talking about your self in your profile picture as a reference😂

[@gfuqua70]

Oakley and Uli are A's. Everything else pretty close. KJUSA and Locastro could be higher. Great job thanks guys!!!!!

[@evanstanek5838]

Yeah, I feel you on KJ, he's an A in my book. And I think Locastro spit out his Miller Lite when Casey said "300 feet"....those are fighting words to Nikko!!!

[@ICreepsItReal]

Id agree with this for sure! Everything else seems right!

[@seanbinder8316]

Uli only looks maybe lower cause he is next to Big Germ alot.

[@outandabout259]

@@seanbinder8316 Uli should take some hand sanitizer with him... Could take care of that problem!

[@chillynewberg2652]

Absolutely these two got ROBBED

[@Warkive]

Paul is my favorite player by a significant margin, but I was still a little surprised at how easily he was assigned an S-forehand and how much debate went into Ricky's.

[@gfuqua70]

Totally Agree! Ricky's forehand is such a weapon and so versatile. Paul's is just damn solid. Hard thing to argue though with guys who have seen it first hand. I know I haven't. But completely agree

[@joevegas7443]

The knock on Ricky is that he doesn't throw understable side arms.

[@levivv]

@@joevegas7443 almost no one throws sidearm turnovers except maybe Jerm and Sexton

[@philjohnson796]

Ricky's sidearm is better- no doubt about it.

[@joevegas7443]

@@levivv that was Big Jerms criticism of Ricky's forehand.

[@sheeva3.0]

Sexton is going to loose his shit once he finds out your calling it sidearm and not forehand 😭

[@caseysmith544]

Both work, the one that does not is flick, as that is a specific type of approach/turbo like shot.

[@bud3053]

Lol

[@kbaintt2]

KJ is definitely an A tier forehand.

[@GobbleGobble571]

My labels based off how they talked about everyone S- World class A- Wins them tournaments B- Will throw off the tee C- Utility D- Scramble

[@Dexecute.]

The amazing thing about P McB though is that it's not even close to most of his game, yet it's so lethal

[@bryceconfer]

Would that mean Ricky would be D rating Scramble? He does use it at any point but Majority of the time when he is scrambling he has an amazing forehand for scrambling that im pretty sure gave him #1 scrambler this season.

[@name7892]

E- Cale Leiviska

[@poysunivey]

@@name7892 agreed. There should’ve been a next to non-existent category.

[@ronjones-6977]

@@poysunivey Add me to that list.

[@dillanmitchell6917]

KJ is DEFINITELY in “A!”

[@leviscott717]

Did anyone else notice that Eagle’s and Paul’s picture blend so well with the tree in the background? Lol

[@jennycraigadventures3314]

Like they’re posing together leaning against the same tree 😂

[@jake_a_g]

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[@thejellydonut7587]

I get that Sexton didn't tour this year, but with how good his sidearm is I'd have really liked to see him on this list.

[@garydowns8364]

Nate Sexton’s sidearm has always been an “S”. Who can argue with that??

[@henrymanahan2764]

AB is throwing 450 ft sidearms *easy* at vista for the past couple weeks it's pretty dang good

[@derekdussault5941]

KJ USA Needs to bump up to an A for sure!!

[@patm3802]

I really like Casey's input and logic behind his choices. I mean this in the nicest way possible - I think he's my favorite pro outside the top 50.

[@allenruiz1585]

KJUSA is a SOLID A!! Along with E Oakley!

[@tylerisbell193]

Eric Oakley, Uli, kev Jones belong in A without a doubt!

[@jasonmansir9204]

Oakley, Jones, and Uli belong in A. Gurthie in D. I literally yelled at my computer with your choices with these 4 🤣. Otherwise every decision was exactly the same

[@michaelsarastorozuk5614]

I know you can’t add him to the list, but you’ve gotta give a shout-out to Nate Sexton when you’re talking about sidearm players.

[@nolanramser8277]

Oakleys forehead is like between A and S... definitely not B lol

[@reedcole5780]

one of the smoothest foreheads in discgolf

[@p.w.7051]

@@reedcole5780 LOL, I got that.

[@DanielDowling]

I think kevin's sidearm has got to be an A

[@tomthefall]

He's an S for me

[@davidpfrey]

There are lots of rounds with Eagle and Kevin in the same card. Watch one of those and tell me that Eagle isn't a league above. I do think Kevin is an "A" though.

[@Adestria66]

Can’t wait to see you two dudes kill it this next season! We need some Lizotte/White main cards!

[@ryankoffel8480]

Simon, what about ranking top 32 by their DG knowledge and/or strategy?

[@caleb6537]

Great idea! I hope he see’s your comment 🤩

[@ThedulcimerguyMatthew]

Eagle McMahon all day on the knowledge.

[@bud3053]

Gregg Barsby: Jerm puts him at 3rd best side arm ever:B tier /Really?

[@mattsnyder4754]

Jerm’s ranking (as far as I’ve seen) is always an “all time” ranking. Historically, yes Barsby is top 5. Right now? Nah.

[@bud3053]

In my opinion that’s what’s keeping Gregg competitive in tournament. Other parts of his game were not dialed in, but his sidearm was in my opinion.

[@cautiousoptimist1926]

Barsby is a magician with his sidearm, and he throws further than they gave him credit for.

[@bud3053]

I agree

[@AVandelay2000]

Agreed - Barsby’s sidearm is easy S. Easy.

[@discblaster9210]

Omg, you guys put Clemons and Hammes, both A tier, above Barsby the real S tier sidearm

[@chillynewberg2652]

They pointed out barsby's drop to A was because the distance. He only gets 400' on average for a full distance shot. That isn't S tier. There are amateurs that out throw that

[@discblaster9210]

@@chillynewberg2652 you just made up that Barsby only throws 400 forehand. Not true first of all, second Big jerm throws less than 450 forehand unless he goes out of his socks. Barsbys forehand is longer than jerms

[@baldvinornolason1701]

@@chillynewberg2652 You can say whatever you want. Barsby is top 5 of all time with sidearm. Anybody disputing that has no clue.

[@josephcurry7710]

Come on, give Kevin his due and put him in A at least

[@bidcs_]

kevins sidearm is so good

[@evanstanek5838]

same

[@DocChompers]

Why is nobody complaining about Emerson's B? He's at least A

[@HeronMarkHero]

Hot Take: Austin Hannum does not have an S tier sidearm.

[@Penkkuthehotdogg]

He has a good one but definitely not a S.

[@JessCat606]

lol

[@RagingGolfer]

I think those name are well placed, Casey and Simon make the best videos together

[@kingtrav]

Please someone who knows cameras reach out to Simon and help him with the focus

[@timmoore9943]

I think Kevin Jones should be moved up

[@Kinsmen77]

100%

[@ccdiscs5790]

Absolutely they got that one wrong

[@A.J.K87]

I think Nate Sexton deserved an honorable mention. I know he isn't top 32 this year because of Covid, but he is up there in the S category for sure.

[@cpnpmp94]

The Hammes placement was perfect. Underrated for sure but his forehand is phenomenal and he leans on it a lot.

[@traviswestcott8870]

i love lacastro he is my favorite player since he started, but i think they got it right and he will feed off of this and make his game better. was so happy to see him come back and not change who he is I love it You Got A Win Coming Bud!!!

[@romantisch2797]

Barsby has one of the all time best sidearms

[@BrainSane237]

I would say Oakley, maybe Uli but especially Kevin Jones is A. Kevin has my absolute favorite technique. It looks so smooth, easy power, perfect balance.

[@logant9437]

Kevin is friggin awesome, but are you going to use Kevin and the words 'perfect balance' in the same sentence? Really? Okay, maybe I'm thinking backhand. Okay... ;)

[@BrainSane237]

@@logant9437 Strictly speaking of forehand here. Only.

[@jtdiscgolf2520]

Nice list. Still dreaming about that bag. I can’t wait to see who wins that great Christmas gift. Keep up the awesome content Simon and looking forward to watching you next season.

[@Beeray11]

Seeing Barsby go to anything but the highest tier of sidearms is fuggin bonkers.

[@fodank]

Glad you got Ricky right. I learned from your video to watch Marwede. Thanks for this. Casey is on point. Cheers, D.

[@earlthomas6295]

We all know why Kevin Jones got the ranking he got.

[@jasonmansir9204]

I dont know why....what do you mean

[@andrewadams4982]

Haha 😂

[@brandonniles4685]

Jason watch the video where simon introduces his gf

[@kalanschat1200]

@@jasonmansir9204 check out the video with simons girlfriend and what she says about kevin. Also it's a joke haha

[@jasonmansir9204]

I did watch it. I never miss a Simon video! 🤣 But I do know now. I remember ha

[@elijahmedlock849]

Chris, Kevin, Eric I think should all be moved to A bit over agreed with the rest

[@bigjermdg]

I'll go ahead and end the debate on any wrongly ranked players. Regarding the S category - Austin Hannum and Barsby should be flipped. Barsby has had a spot in my top 5 all time sidearms list for a long time. He has no business in the A category. He possesses all the power anyone needs to get the job done. A category - Chris Dickerson, Kevin Jones, Eric Oakley, AB and Uli are all A's, and I would have strongly considered giving Andrew Marwede and Emerson Keith a spot in there as well. There are a ton of highly skilled forehand players in the game right now. You could almost place the entire B category in with the A's. B category - everything else seems fine. C category - get Conrad out of here lol my bro belongs exactly where he'd place himself, and that's with the rest of the D's. My dude went almost 2 consecutive years without throwing a forehand tee shot. Hole 1 at USDGC ruined his streak. D category - nailed it lol

[@JoeSmith-lr3fo]

I love vlogmas!!! The fact that Casey is on the vlog is a plus too.

[@ryanhaggerty]

Guys, Sexton and Jerm put Barsby in their top 5 forehands of all time. He’s an S. Insane he’s in A. Paul M = A. Ricky was a no brainer S and crazy there was any doubt. Kevin Jones is an easy A.

[@hudsonknox4296]

Felt the same about Barsby. They got this one wrong for sure.

[@bradyoch6208]

I agree with your analysis of all of these except that I feel Ricky could arguably be placed in A or S.

[@jimboslice3646]

KJ is an A for sure. He proved he has an amazing forehand this year.

[@playdg]

What are you using to shoot this? Need manual focus capability.

[@saltysomers1988]

Eric Oakley deserves to de A+ or S-. You guys are cray

[@ionymous6733]

I rewatched you two sitting back in unison at 0:16 four times. That was special

[@TheCts0511]

Does UDisc have sidearm/back hand stats for the pro tour.

[@joshsmith3836]

KJ, oakly, and probably dickerson should be in A. I think barsby is S tier

[@thelivingtribunal5117]

Marwede's forehand is elite. I just saw him skip one off a basket at the CHO, in Gainesville, from over 450ft...he threw several others elite distances as well, with accuracy. I judge him worthy of an S, well maybe an A for now, until he "proves it", but you'll see next year This dude hucks power forehands like few I've seen, and I've seen them all play live. OK, it wasn't 450ft but trust me, this dude bombs.

[@sreduos]

whatever camera setting you have on for the opening... it isn't the right one... lol was blurring clearing blurring clearing over and over so fast. Thanks Simon! Happy holidays!

[@bovts12]

These videos are the best Simon - I wish you a happy holiday season and a speedy recovery this offseason! I know you’ll come back ready to shred, no matter how long that may be. Keep pushing! 👊

[@tspaventa]

FOCUS SUGGESTION! Simon! Check your focus settings! You just have spot focusing on or something. Probably set to the center of the shot, hence it trying to focus on the background often times in the center of the screen.

[@garcia858rose]

Kev Jones should be in the A category

[@MrTerbman]

Swap Hannum and Barsby, bump up KJ and Oakley and we're good. Jerm may need his own tier since he has every forehand shot possible.

[@marscruz]

Demi-god level? Barsby has all the angles too. He's experienced and a great scrambler.

[@RBWeaver97]

Nah Hannum needs to stay, dudes got a killer sidearm

[@ethanl4567]

Hannum, McBeth, AB, KJ and Oakley should all be A.

[@nmkloster]

I played Berlin Open around 8 years ago. Simon was injured and thus played predominantly sidearm. I was insanely impressed seeing him park a 110 meter low ceiling tunnel shot. But that is exactly the one shot he's talking about he has.

[@meelispea]

As an estonian discgolf fan where would you put Silver Lätt`s sidearm. In Estonia he is absolutley killing it and smoothest siderarm i`ve ever seen. But i haven`t seen these S-tier sidearm players and i thought where would Silver be in your ranking system.

[@marscruz]

Silver Lätt has an amazing sidearm. So smooth and effortless. Albert Tamm is another excellent European with a strong sidearm. Hope they can come and play some tournaments in the US in 2021.

[@cautiousoptimist1926]

His sidearm form is fantastic; relaxed, compact, a quick hip turn and the disc just shoots out of his hand. I don't think he has the touch of Koling, Barsby or Wysocki, but a solid A. It would be nice to hear Simon's views on the top Europeans.

[@eestichuck]

I was expecting Lätt to be in the top half of this list and instead he didn't even make it?

[@marscruz]

@@eestichuck It's only because Simon is using the Top 32 list from the PDGA or USDGA. The Europeans couldn't make the list this year because of travel restrictions.

[@joshwilson2908]

Ok dude, one of these videos you have to include Page Pierce with the guys

[@kimmomatikainen1843]

Why? She is not in top 32 ranking and she is not on top of the list in any category. There is over 100 better players than Paige is. She is great and the best FPO player especially in courses with open and long holes, but she is quite far behind top players in the world.

[@joshwilson2908]

@@kimmomatikainen1843 I bet you she could beat Lizotte on a course

[@baldvinornolason1701]

@@joshwilson2908 So could my mother after 15.000 attempts. Doesn't mean she's in the same league.

[@joshwilson2908]

@@baldvinornolason1701 page pierce is in another league when it comes to the women and don’t even at me

[@baldvinornolason1701]

@@joshwilson2908 "page pierce is in another league when it comes to the women" So what? If she's not a top player she is not a top player. Should we also throw the best 12 year old on the list because he's in a different league in terms of ability compared to other 12 year olds? These lists are about the best in the world. If Paige is supposed to be on the list she has to get better or they might make a list of the best female players.

[@jamesreavis403]

Pretty accurate. I would move Oakley and Jones up to A.

[@baleighhopkins9702]

who won the most recent giveaway? I can't recall hearing about it!

[@jasondelre1400]

is Nate Sexton not top 32 anymore?

[@marscruz]

He only played a few tournaments this year. He'll be back next year. He's playing Daddy while his doctor wife gets through the mill.

[@shustermanclips]

It’s based off of tour points from this season and Nate didn’t play very much. Hopefully we’ll see him next year.

[@christophermasteller6726]

Eric Oakley should have been in the A tier! I think his forehand game is incredibly strong and technical. I definitely think he should have out ranked Adam, even though Adam has an amazing forehand game. When you think about Eric Oakley's game, the first think that comes to mind is his forehand. Hands down, he should be in the A tier list.

[@lschat7148]

No way Locastro's sidearm is the same level as Conrad's or Gibson's. He should be B

[@taylorfair8102]

Here to give Oakley the A love he deserves

[@benjohnson185]

Im here to give him the md he deserves for millennial douchebag

[@WhalePants]

@@benjohnson185 why u so mad?

[@AndrewWhiteKhanty]

S: Koling, Mcbeth, McMahon, Wysocki, Marwede A: Dickerson, Heimburg, Jones, Ulibarri

[@marckaplan395]

Kevin, Uli and Chris are all solid As, other than those pretty spot on.

[@everettcorder5977]

Eric Oakley should be an A for sure. Glad to see Clemons get the love! Dude’s sidearm is filthy.

[@que2153]

I've never seen Gurthie throw a forehand and he got a C. Philo- straight d category?

[@supere4206]

Thank y’all for everything merry Christmas happy New Year’s year....!!!!!!

[@sandtrav5]

Kevin to A, Emerson to A, maybe Oakley to A too.

[@jesseaustin3792]

Emerson isn’t an A

[@bddulli]

I’ve only seen Conrad sidearms on scramble approach shots. If he doesn’t ever drive with it maybe assume it’s a D?

[@tseremed]

Every time he pulls it out it works though.

[@acerun25]

I'm wondering where Nate Sexton is?

[@MrFozzDawg]

Love these! I'd say your pretty close IMO! I'd Move KJUSA and Emmerson Keith up to A and Nikko to at least B.

[@stephendurning8281]

Vlogmas 11 let's gooooooo

[@atomedgesharpening]

Is Nate Sexton not on here? Isn't he like... one of the primary sidearm throwing guys?

[@purexpure]

PDGA top 32 players by rating.

[@reelmarkymark9937]

I've been a bit behind on golf lately, is Sexton not on tour this year?

[@alexcheriel7306]

His wife is a doctor and working long hrs this year so he spent most of the year at home taking care of their daughter

[@reelmarkymark9937]

@@alexcheriel7306 Ah okay i remember him talking about this now at the beginning of all of this. I appreciate it Alex!

[@jamiecraighead8423]

IIRC: Covid kept him off tour so he could take care of the kids since they were reluctant to risk their parent's health during the pandemic.

[@reelmarkymark9937]

@@jamiecraighead8423 I appreciate it! Wishing nothing but the best for him and his family. Crazy times we live in

[@scali84mtry]

Are u going to do putting next . Normal putting to distance putting

[@fearbefore63]

Thanks for having constant quality videos

[@gromba]

Eric Oakley is up there with Jerm when it comes to touchy flicks. He can hyzerflip those mids just aswell as Jerm.

[@bradyoch6208]

Hot take: Eagle's forehand is an A, not an S. His distance is insane, but the shot shaping is not to the level of a truly spectacular forehand thrower. This was not the only thing I would change, just something I'm not seeing anyone else comment on.

[@ryanmillhollin9324]

They really emphasized distance the most it seems. Barsby not in S is embarrassing

[@outandabout259]

Hey there, Casey Freaking White. Nice to meet you.

[@gfuqua70]

You dont know Casey? Of just the Freaking White?

[@outandabout259]

@@gfuqua70 I know Casey White. I assumed this... person was maybe a twin or lookalike. Who knows, maybe he is? 🤔

[@pastorbeaucoffman2214]

You guys blew it with KJ. He is at least an A.

[@mikeschroeder7042]

Jeez, everybody so up in arms about the camera focus and KJ not being ranked higher. I agree with the latter but whatever. Not like these rankings effect their earnings or anything. And I didnt even notice the focus thing until seeing people comment about it. Thanks for the content Simon. Anything disc golf related helps get us through the winters.

[@23timesin2minutes]

Thank you for clarifying Adam Hammes pronunciation, I've heard so many different variations.

[@scottradtke9485]

How is Calvin not an A? kJ and EK as well?

[@petsasquatch]

i know sexton sat out alot due to covid and injury, but does nate sexton not make this list?

[@awildschuetz1]

If Hannum’s an S, then KJ is an S! Those two are always bickering over who’s better!

[@RBWeaver97]

Bro Hannum has no question a better sidearm. At the tour championship this man threw one past the basket on a 470ft hole...through the woods...like what

[@bradyoch6208]

@@RBWeaver97 Power isn't everything. Have you ever seen him throw as technically beautiful of a forehand as KJ did on hole 14 Hornets Nest? And Kevin is no slouch in distance either. Maybe not as far as Hannum's but he can out it out there 450'.

[@RBWeaver97]

@@bradyoch6208 considering Hannum’s forehand is what got him to the tour yes, I have seen him throw super touch/technical forehands. He was a college pitcher, he’s clearly got accuracy. I’m not saying KJ doesn’t have those shots but Hannum checks every box with his forehand and just slightly edges him out

[@alfred3331ut]

We will see more of Scott Withers, from Oregon soon.

[@charliesawyer8327]

Right!?! But he would tell you that his sidearm would be a C.

[@carlwilliams9642]

Where's Nate? Isn't he like Jerm who's game basically revolves around his sidearm?

[@gfuqua70]

I believe they're ranking just top ranked pros. Sexton didn't play this year. Sexton, def S tier though

[@HillbillyHermitRC]

I was gonna say the same thing. Easily S caliber.

[@ziggybaker3446]

I'm backhand dominate. I'm sorta ambidextrous though so developing a side-arm hasn't been my priority, but I primarily throw as a lefty. Being able to use my right arm on certain holes definitely gives me an advantage over some I play with, but I'm not always as accurate.

[@kyledavis4668]

Keep doing the teir lists! Love these videos!

[@braydenrace5466]

This is gonna be a good one.

[@Caddyshhack]

Where would Nate sexton end up on this list?

[@thechesskid]

I LOVE the tier maker videos; we need more!