Rankings The Characters Based on Morality - Until Dawn Remake

[@Eretbrine]

You pointed out every opportunity characters had to intentionally or accidently harm/kill another character/animal but you never pointed out the times they tried to save or put themselves in danger to rescue someone else, like you only counted the negative things they could do without mentioning the positive it isn't a very balanced way to evaluate someone's morals imo 🤷‍♂

[@Dontstop772]

That’s right! A real way to do so is to look at the characters REALISTIC instead of based off the players choices. In general, this tier list is HEAVILY BIASED.

[@Zachary_TDZ]

THANK YOU, Sam literally puts herself in danger to get everyone out of the lodge 3 TIMES! But this man wants to talk about 1 other random decision?!?

[@therealone_20]

He's pointing out how immoral a character can get and this is a decision based game, meaning they can be as immoral as YOU want them to be. So he's pointing out all the bad decisions that can be made with every character and which character does the worse things

[@Zachary_TDZ]

@@therealone_20if that’s the case then he should of named the video “based on immortality.” Cant use the word morality then include every bad option…

[@arcade7273]

@@Zachary_TDZ This is a choice based game, it's obvious from the get go that this ranking is based on the immoral choices. You can argue that's unfair but then is the game fair for not letting you make any good moral choices for Emily? No it's not, meaning that ranking the characters by best choices is unfair for Emily. Either way, it's gona be unfair and biased, so chill out.

[@brodymelton25]

See this is hard cause you are taking the worst possibilities from some characters and the best possibilities from others and it’s not really that concrete, just whatever you want

[@roro_0r]

yess this, he´s literally picking favorites🙄🙄

[@Dontstop772]

The title should’ve had along the lines of ‘’In my opinion’’ or ‘’Me being bias to a lot of characters’’😂.

[@roro_0r]

@@Dontstop772 haha yeeah

[@AHappyBlackGuy]

I think its perfectly fair. No matter what you choose its all apart of characterization. A lot of fans hate Ashley for letting Chris die and goading Mike into shooting Emily even though both of those could potentially never happen, same for Mike shooting Emily, Chris shooting the squirrel, Matt abandoning Jessica, etc. Why? Because regardless of what you choose its all apart of their characters. Its up to the player as far as what thoughts they act upon

[@femalegays]

"he's picking favorites" yea, it's HIS opinion, gurl.

[@coney_island_queen]

I honestly blame the developers for the hate that Emily gets. Emily is insecure, thinks she isn’t enough for Matt, she is a perfectionist who fears failure and you can only know that if you deep dive into her interactions with the others. She was betrayed by Hannah, Jessica, Mike and later Mike betrayed her again with Ashley when they tried to have her killed. Of course she’s bitchy to the people who BETRAYED her. Emily can actually be so nice to Ashley if she doesn’t get bit and actually comforts Ashley when the flamethrower guy came in and if Chris dies. Also, the fact that Matt accuses her of f*cking Mike in a serious situation like that is so f*cked up that she has to admit to it even though she didn’t even kiss him she literally just wanted closure bc she was dumped and was so confused.

[@ikeafoodmanager9251]

I mean a lot (including me) hates her or doesn't like her as much as the others cz reasons : 1. Sometimes her choice of words is not the kindest or her way of saying it makes her seem bitchy. 2. (This is personal) The fact she lied to Matt's face saying she wanted to meet Sam but in actuality she met Mike n then proceeds to say "U think so little of me? " When Matt was being a nice guy by offering her to go with her. 3. Sometimes she's just over the top. Like just cz Hannah liked ur bf u could LITERALLY hv a conversation with her n say "Yk Mike's my bf right? "But nope she just proceeds to prank her which causes her death. 4. Complaining abt the dumbest shit. For example, her complaining abt her $600 top which was used for the torch, complaining to Matt when she was hanging down the fire tower. It's an intense moment so Matt was overwhelmed but Em just chose violence and forced him to help her when in reality it would be better for Matt to jump off to safety. I mean there's also a side/trait of Em which I like but personally in my characters ranking, she's rather low. Not the lowest but it's better than getting 8th.

[@coney_island_queen]

@@ikeafoodmanager9251 The prank was actually 100% Jess’s plan Emily was just there to see what happens and Mike was way more involved in it than Em. Honestly, if I had to ruin something that costed me 600$ I would complain too. And the fire tower situation how can you say that it was dumb for her to complain when her life was on the line way more than Matt bc he can easily jump to safety? She was stressed out of her mind like any human would be. Also, as I said in my first comment she’s bitchy bc people betrayed her. She’s never bitchy to Sam, Ash and Mike (pre slap scene), Chris and Josh. She’s mean to Jess bc she betrayed her and being mean to Matt is imo a sign of her trust issues (her ex bf and ex bsf betrayed her so shes paranoid that everything that he does is a sign of him not liking her or that she can’t trust him and she shows remorse for her behavior towards Matt and for what happened that night and her honesty doesn’t drop unlike Mike and Ash) and extreme fear and stress due to what was happening during the game. And about her lying to Matt, what did you expect her to say? I need to talk to my ex bf bc I need closure and I probably still have feelings for him? Also, Mike’s honesty drops when he compliments Jess which means he literally just wants to hookup and still has feelings for Em.

[@thatoneguy1232]

⁠ 1. That’s fair. Sometimes what she says can be quite withering. 2. I disagree with her lying 100%. But at the same time, she can’t just be like “hey imma go catchup with my ex”. Matt is very obviously insecure and judging by Emily’s actions, particularly paired with a later scene, it’s clear she doesn’t want Matt thinking about Mike in that way. When they go to get her bag, she agrees to start the night over, no Mike and no Jess. When Matt clears the snow off the table Emily has to reassure him that she is with him. And making Matt want to go with Emily makes him further come off as insecure, distrusting, clingy, and little possessive. That’s not attractive. I know Emily probably doesn’t deserve trust. Especially not in this moment knowing what we know. But it still comes off a little weird on Matt’s part. 3. Emily didn’t even start the pranks that was Jess. They were just having fun and the gravity of the situation didn’t hit them until until after the unfortunate incident. Emily does feel bad about what happened and given the perception of her character, this should be huge. It’s like “what? The big bad super b feels terrible about the disappearance of a friend who was ready to throw herself at her then-boyfriend with little to no consideration for her?” But yea, in the present Emily understands what they did and is upset by it. She’s the only character who participated in the prank that is ONLY ever apologetic. The same can’t be said for Ash, Mike, and Jess(Matt never speaks up about it so we don’t know). 4. You wouldn’t be be upset about losing a $600 top? But nah in all seriousness she’s just rambling as one does. It’s like if someone was to complain about Mike singing eenie meanie after chopping his fingers off or Sam boasting to a rock wall saying “I beat you”. They’re just talking taking their minds off the situation. Relax. And the tower scene is Emily arguably at her most irritable but look at the situation. She is hanging on for dear life! AND SHE IS RIGHT! They are on a crumbling tower. There is no time for thinking. No time for chit chat. Something has to be done! What do you mean? Her yelling and berating Matt isn’t helping. He is overwhelmed and needs to collect himself but time is of the essence. There is no real wrong here(unless Matt takes the time to abuse this situation to interrogate her while not taking “no” as an answer which is just borderline evil). And what’s crazy is that if Matt is knocked off the cliff, then Emily is ALWAYS there to pull him up regardless of their relationship status. You’re telling me Matt, the linebacker, can’t stick his hand out for her? And there’s no way he’s reaching her from the other side. Especially when he’d be to her back plus the distance between. Unless he expected her to swing backwards, launch herself, then he can catch her ankle and pull her up 😂

[@ikeafoodmanager9251]

@@thatoneguy1232 Even if I was insecure, I would rather be told to my face that my partner is catching up with my ex than my partner lying to my face, proceed to be angry at me, and then I found out later on that my partner is not doing what they told me. I know that em didn't start the prank, but who was the prank for? It was for Em cz Hannah is attempting to steal Mike from Em. Also from what it seems there is no conversation that was had between Em (or anyone) to Hannah saying to back off of Mike cz He's Em's and then Em just proceeds to be okay with the prank. Personally, this one minor reason if compared to the other ones. The $600 top comment is pretty small but still kinda "ugh" to me cz she rlly commented that after she miraculously survived just cz a rope/chain was holding her upside down. During the fire tower scene, Matt stressed af cz he's not only thinking abt his gf's life but also his own life and since Em is known to be foul mouthed (especially at dire moments) it's like fueling the situation and making the situation worse. Even tho time is of the essence,if Matt is still stressed cz he can't calm down cz she just keeps commenting, ofc it will slow things down and both could die. Plus to me Matt seems like the type to be able to work better when his mind is calm and not stressing out. Which doesn't rlly match with Em who can work under pressure and rlly work at any stressful time (which is tbh is a good trait for her, but not ALL the time and it can't be forced to other ppl). Plus at that scene let's be real, the tower is descending each time they're moving. Em is getting farther down the fence thingy and Matt's chance to save her became EVEN LOWER. There's a low to zero chance for him to completely grab her up without them both falling to the darkness. That's why personally if I was Em, I would rather Matt just jump off and leave me. Cz I would rather I die alone than me AND my partner dying together cz of my bitchy attitude.

[@soupspeaker]

Emily cheated on Matt....

[@darthuchiha1418]

If I remember correctly Mike’s funny meter skyrockets if he shoots Emily so that definitely does not leave a very good impression on his morality

[@joshuaagee-bass4049]

@@darthuchiha1418 funny, honesty and charity. Likewise, in the original at least, supporting Jessica drops his honesty.

[@twit3537]

iirc there was also a leak that originally one character was supposed to be pregnant but due to how controversial it could be in the game they removed it but many thought emily was the one pregnant and some thought it was mike's which would make him shooting her in the safe house so much more messed up (especially if the meeting at the start was to tell him about it and he went and did that knowing she was carrying his child).

[@VampKhai]

@@twit3537 what? none of that's even real or canon you just made up an entire situation

[@miatonucci1416]

The canon ending is that everyone lives... meaning that Sam's as a character risks her life to save her friends. Mind you picking to run in the scenario would be out of character for her since the words describing her at the beginning were brave and considerate. While other characters like Emily or Jess have cutscenes of being straight up mean where the player has no control over their decisions. I think that says more about a character then a choice that the player has full control over.

[@berybluu6081]

where did you get this info?

[@johnnyboy445]

Canon ?

[@professorwright1428]

There's no canon ending babes and if there was in all likelihood it would be everyone but Sam and Mike dying.

[@ikeafoodmanager9251]

​@@johnnyboy445I mean it's not but I feel like most of us would rather think of an "Everyone Survived" ending as a good and canon ending

[@ItsLiakTheCat]

I mean... If we get a sequel, Sam definitely surviving is canon, but the others dying or surviving in that mountain is not canon. I think

[@i.n.d.i.g.o.night99]

Tbh the most moral character after beth is Sam the girl literally was put in the most dangerous situation by the end of the game she practically has to save 4 other people beside her self if wo have everyone survive ending and the pressure situation can prompt anyone to save them selves first but if we take the character in her self she will definitely prioritize everyone elses safety over her own and the option to run for her own safety is specifically a players choice so I think in morality after the beth she in the most moral

[@Karma-ej7gl]

I agree

[@ElisaSarah]

In my eyes Chris is the most moral person in the whole group. He did not pull a prank, he did not set up a torture camp. He has some of the best scenes where he saves people. He gets shocked when Ashley belittle Hannah for being "dramatic" he is legit dissapointed in her. For me Chris is the MVP in the group.

[@BK_189-p4y]

And that's why I protect him when I play this game. 100% think he's the best character in the game. Sam is second.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

And remember; Sam was also kinda involved in the prank but she was the only one who protested about it and wanted to warn Hannah. Don't forget that Chris is also traumatized to have shoot Ashley or himself, have to choose Josh or Ashley, watching the flamethrower guy by a Wendigo and also watching Josh losing his mind because of his PTSD. So in my rank is from the most moral to immoral 1. Chris 2. Sam 3. Beth 4. Hannah 5. Josh 6. Matt 7. Emily 8. Ashley 9. Jess 10. Mike Actually, from number 6 to 10 are the people who are involved in the prank minus Sam.

[@ElisaSarah]

@@margarethmichelina5146 I fully agree with your list. No notes! XD

[@EntirelyUnnecessary]

The only one I'd heavily disagree on is having Hannah be the highest morality. I think Beth choosing the self preservation move when the choice is between one or both of them dying isn't morally faulty given the circumstances. While Hannah didn't deserve what happened to her, she did try to hook up with the boyfriend of one of her friends of while of fully sound mind and under no extraneous circumstances. Beth was given a choice between doing harm and doing less harm and chose the option of less harm at worst, while Hannah had a choice of doing harm or doing no harm and chose harm. I'd put Hannah around Jess and Emily. Overall good list, though.

[@yeetvocals3786]

Exactly

[@mimorisenpai8540]

knowing Hannah survived in that clift mean if Beth successfully reaching jack hand(flamethrower guy) Hannah more likely got rescue because beth know where Hannah location and she wouldn't turn into wendigo.

[@declaracionespolemicas]

I agree 100%. We don't get to know much about Beth unfortunately, but what we do know about her paints her as a good and caring sister. As soon as she realizes the group is playing a prank on Hannah she's ready to do something about it, and after Hannah runs out to the woods she goes after her, and consoles her as soon as she finds her. If she chooses to let go of her sister, it's only because in the situation she was in there was no way other than letting go. At that moment her best shot at living was by reaching out for the stranger's hand and Hannah couldn't be saved by her. It was either they both fall or only one of them falls in her mind, though obviously we all know no matter what she chooses the outcome is always the same for her.😬 Sad because as the other comment above me pointed out, if Beth had managed to reach out for the hand and lived, there was a higher chance that Hannah would have been found and lived as well without having to turn wendigo.

[@EggzyStill]

I think Ashley is the most immoral and Mike maybe the second. Mike has the option to shoot Emily for a reason, while its not a good one at least he has one. Ashley essentially killed Chris by not opening the door for him, she did this because what? He didn't end his own life? Dumb reasoning, anyone would shoot someone else instead of themselves. Great video tho.

[@joshuaagee-bass4049]

If we’re talking about the original, it’s Ashley. However in the remake, her getting him killed was genuinely an accident.

[@mateicsito]

@@joshuaagee-bass4049 It's not. She hesitates, and even if she changes her mind it is still to late to do so.

[@roseoftheteddy3335]

@@mateicsito hesitation is super common in high stress situations. Especially since Ashley tend to have a freeze/panic reaction. So it’s still an accident.

[@mateicsito]

@@roseoftheteddy3335 You can go and see the death again. She doesn't stay frozen in panic, she does not look scared. She just walks around as Chris asks for help as if she were just waiting for it to end, and then looks at him for a few seconds BEFORE running at his aid.

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

No it's because she froze. She doesn't mean to get him unalived

[@Rowan_0161]

I think Beth is the most moral Character, she has no imoral feeling and gose after haanah, dropping haanah is an option however there is nothing she can do, she isnt strong enough to pull her up and their for there was nothing she could do, secondly Haanah with her feelings for mike started all this, the prank was of poor taste but she was trying to steel mike from em and had no hesitation when given a opportunity, this aswell as the fact it was her who pulled Beth off the cliff, you can argue its not her fault but why would you continue to back up when your at a cliff (if fear is the excuse half the immoral acts in this game are excusable, which i think they are to an extent)

[@bridgiemarie7989]

Honestly as bad as I feel for Hannah I don’t think she’s a innocent as people think she is. Mike and Emily were dating at the time and she showed absolutely zero hesitation at the idea of sleeping with one of her friend’s boyfriend. I’m not saying she deserved the prank but come on not even a “what about Emily” thought 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@roses7400]

She also made the horrendous choice to cannibalise her own sister! This is the moral put forward by the Wendigo fable - that in any and all situations, cannibalism is a deep natural wrong, hence the consequence of turning into a hellish monster. This is just compounded by the fact that Beth is not only her sister, but HER IDENTICAL GENETIC TWIN, which grew beside her in the womb. This is another layer of the abomination of Hannah’s decision to cannibalise Beth.

[@jvburad3508]

Jessica should be ranked above...people forget that she was the one who made the whole prank and said it was to PROTECT HER BEST FRIEND,which wasnt,the whole time she was just waiting to make a move and steal her best friend boyfriend,if she had more time to do so i think Jessica would act just like Ash in the game...I HAVE NO DOUBT that she would tell mike to shoot Emily

[@i4celeste]

Jessica would NEVER do that, she is insecure and deep down she must feel guilty for having betrayed her friend because she is an angel

[@Lila_Moon]

If Sam lives, she also tells those that rescued them to go down into the mines to their death. No warnings at all to what is down there, just tells them that they have to go look. If Emily lives, she warns them not to go down there or they will die.

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Because she didn't know Josh still alive then turn into wendigo and she said it because down those mine have many about existence of Wendigo.

[@higharchbishopofteatasting6217]

Nah, Sam thinks all the wendigos are dead and there is clear evidence of the wendigos still present.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Also, Sam was smiling when she told that like she challenged them while Emily looked terrified. Sam looks like she's completely losing it till the end even the remake, there's a new post credit scene where Sam wakes up with pills besides her bed, meaning she has a huge PTSD after that event and needs to take pills to keep her sane. She could also possibly going to Dr Hill, the same therapist who took care of Josh.

[@joshuaagee-bass4049]

Mike; you’re a murderer is what you are JOSH! Can murder someone the very next chapter. Meanwhile, Josh can never even attempt to kill anyone

[@bodigames]

You’re confused. The first is a cutscene where you can’t choose anything. This is his canon response. The latter is a players choice. Killing Emily wouldn’t fall in line with his character.

[@joshuaagee-bass4049]

@@bodigames I’m not confused, the fact remains Josh is the only character other than Jess that can never even attempt to kill someone while Mike is the only one to directly murder someone with his bare hands.

[@mimorisenpai8540]

​@@joshuaagee-bass4049 well that depend on player choices. Mike despite being pricks is very moralist and situation pretty pressuring for him and you should blame ashley for pushing him

[@joshuaagee-bass4049]

@@mimorisenpai8540 Ashley never said shoot Emily

[@mimorisenpai8540]

@@joshuaagee-bass4049 ashley encourage mike to shoot her

[@nathanpredmore7577]

I actually think Matt leaving Emily on the tower isn’t a slight on his character at all. It’s the airplane oxygen mask logic, save yourself first so that you can more easily save others. Emily was pretty far away from Matt and him finding a safer place for himself before trying to save her is in my eyes completely reasonable and the correct thing to do. Trying to save her from his position may cause both of them to die. Him confronting her while she is hanging off the tower is definitely a slight on his morale character though. I would rank him higher.

[@ShurikanBlade]

I do believe Ashley is the least moral character cuz of Chris death alone but she also always seems the most panicked at any given moment. She is always freaking out and so i think mentally she just wants to survive above all and isnt thinking too logically. Also she was willing to open the trap door in case it was Jessica. Still think she is morally the worst but when it shows she cant handle the stress like at all its evident why shed make the most selfish choices tbh

[@roses7400]

The inverse of this reasoning is why I believe Emily is a moral character, too. Emily is the most intelligent of the characters (hinted at by the 4.0 GPA line) and has a strong degree of resolve and emotional control, like when she quickly calms herself in the mines by saying to herself “snap out of it, Em” and immediately goes back to being a badass. In Emily’s play through, she problem solves very quickly, and puts together the clues she has seen almost immediately. Inversely, Ashley comes across as foolish and shallow.

[@oreofrisk]

you mentioned her freaking out right? i think this trait of her is more negative because she blurts out stuff that is actually hurtful, such as her talking about hannah and persuading mike to practically shoot her all because she decides to act upon her anxiousness

[@ShurikanBlade]

@@oreofrisk I mean it definitely is a negative trait but I don't think it's an immoral trait because she's not in the right head space like ever.

[@nataliebateman1151]

Sam I think is one of the best morally characters. She not only tried to stop the prank but she's a good hearted person.

[@MrWahooStudios]

For me is like this: 1- Hannah: She literally does nothing wrong, just eating Beth's body, but like, she was going to die of starvation at that point, almost anyone would've done the same. The Wendigo actions she does don't count since she's not controlling herself at that point. 2- Beth: She drops Hannah, but it is more to save herself than anything else, and she does feel remorse for dropping her. 3- Jessica: She orchestrated the prank against Hannah, but she does show remorse for doing so later in the game. She doesn't really do much evil after that 4- Matt: The most evil thing he can do is abandon Jessica to save himself, a doesn't actually show any remorse for doing it. However, compared to what everyone else does, it's not much. Insulting Emily at the tower barely counts, since she insults him back during the whole scene. 5- Chris: He can shoot a Squirrel for fun and hit Josh when he is tied up in blind rage. With that said, everything else he does is not that bad. 6- Emily: She is a bitchy character, but she can also do actual evil things. Firstly, she deliberately pushes Ashley to put her in danger, not to run ahead like some think (This is beacuse, if Emily isn't bitten, or doesn't know the bites are innofensive, she won't push Ashley). Also, in the police station, she can say Matt left her to die and not feel anything when told he is dead, even if Matt actually tried to save her. That said, she's far from the worst character in terms of morality 7- Josh: He pulls a prank that traumatizes most of his friends, and targets specifically Chris and Sam, when Sam was barely involved in the prank and Chris wasn't involved in it at all. However, he does it for revenge for his sisters, and he doesn't actually put anyone in real danger. 8- Sam: She is mostly good during the whole game... Until the very end when she can take the decision to leave the house and intentionally kill almost everyone of her friends. At least Matt and Emily just try to save themselves by putting the other one in danger, Sam actually gets her hands dirty and actually murders her friends. 9- Mike: He can actually murder Emily with his own hands. He has a somewhat valid reason, however that doesn't change the fact that he actually kills his ex. He leaves Jessica for dead even if she actually is alive, leaving her alone and suffering for almost all night. In his rage, he also attempts to kill the Stranger, someone who is completely innocent in all of this. And his worst act... He can kick wolfie! F you Mike >:( 10- Ashley: Unlike Mike, who had somewhat of a valid reason to kill Emily, or Sam who leaves her friends behind to save herself, Ashley can leave Chris to die just for a grudge. Not only that, she can hide the fact that bites are not infectious just so she's not caught and to avoid consequences. If you play your cards right, Ashley can be the worst character in the game

[@toxicneamain]

I completely agree with the rating. I personally think Emily got way more hate than she deserved just because she had a very harsh personality and Ashley had the whole friends to lovers trope with Chris and people didn’t really pay attention at how horrible she could potentially be.

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

Hannah literally tries to go for a man that is already taken and then she runs out of the house to try and get Mike to chase after her. Nah she ain't innocent

[@MrWahooStudios]

@@Mavuika_Gyaru Are you really comparing that to fucking shooting your ex?

[@hyperraidsaerofrights5649]

When you fall down an elevator, It's safe to assume that whoever falls there is pretty much dead, especially if you last saw them fucked up.

[@FelipeTempestad17]

well. I agree that hanna did not deserve to die for that, but she knew that mike was with em, and she did went for it, so saying nothing wrong is no exactly accurate.

[@faeriekitten]

My ranking is about like this: Moral - Immoral 1. Sam - She is known to be considerate and brave. Sure, you *can* decide as a player to run for the switch and kill others, but I do not think she would naturally choose that. Even when its revealed that Josh is the psycho, she shows some understanding and empathy, saying its a clear cry for help. She also tried, even if failed, to stop the prank on Hannah and told the group off 2. Beth - We don't get to know Beth too well, but she does go after Hannah in the woods, and her choice doesn't matter - whether she lets go of the branch or Hannah. Even if she could have saved herself by letting go of Hannah, then I feel she would have looked for help and they'd have been able to find Hannah with Beths help later. I base that assumption off of the actions we *do* see. Going after Hannah in the woods, giving her the jacket, even keeping Hannah behind her when, Im assuming, a wendigo was approaching them. I think its pretty clear she cares deeply for Hannah 3. Chris - Wasnt involved in the prank in any way and most immoral decisions given to him are a result of the game Josh pulls as the psycho. Even if you consider he could pull the trigger on Ashley instead of himself, 99% of people would do the same thing if they were in that situation. Overall, he just seems like a good guy 4. Hannah - Honestly, I get she had a huge crush on Mike, but seeing the prom picture, it made it seem like Emily was supposed to be her friend, not like she was only Mikes gf at the time. Its pretty shitty to be willing to go behind one of your friends back just bc you have a crush on their bf and willing to cheat with him. But she also wasn't confronted in a proper way, rather given a cruel prank and filmed. I can feel some sympathy for her because of that 5. Josh - I feel sympathy for him too. He is struggling with a misdiagnosed mental disorder and has been through the terrible trauma of losing his sisters. For that, he acts out bc he wants the group to feel what Hannah/Beth felt before, but still what he does is pretty fucked up. Not to mention, I think he gets the worst fate if you play the game honestly as he turns into a Wendigo 6. Emily - I can agree that Emily comes off like this super bitchy girl who thinks she runs the show. But she actually proves to be pretty resourceful and bad-ass at times. She is not lower bc she still participated in the prank and didn't take it seriously when Hannah ran off. She also lies to Matt at the beginning when she says she has to go find Sam, but actually just wanted to go catch up with Mike. I cant say whether or not she was cheating, but Id get heated too if I saw my partner hugging an ex like that 7. Matt - Overall, Matt doesn't seem like the worst dude, but he definitely comes off as insecure and somewhat possessive of Emily. He also gets points docked for filming the prank and being able to confront Emily about her and Mike on the radio tower instead of looking for a solution, likely putting Emily in a position where she may lie just so her life could be spared 8. Jess - Honestly, she only ended up this high on the list for two things. One being that she is the original orchestrator of the prank on Hannah and claimed it was to stick up for Emily. Secondly, because she proved she didn't really care all that much about Emily bc as soon as Emily and Mike broke up, she became Mikes new gf. For that, she comes off as selfish. However, she admittedly has a pretty bad night too. She has no idea whats going on, just that something dragged her down to the mines and she can ultimately survive, only to be abandoned by Matt. If shes the only survivor in a playthrough, she literally has no idea whats happened in her interview and just looks so out of it and broken that even I can feel sympathy for her 9. Mike - I think Mikes biggest flaw is how much of a typical douche he is. He comes off right away as your stereotypical douchebag that eventually works his way through all the girls in the friend group. Even Josh hints at this at the beginning when he jokes with Chris that if he doesn't make a move on Ashley, Mikes certain to eventually take up the cause. As others mentioned, when he's supportive towards Jess, his honesty drops, meaning he's pretending to care in order to get in her pants, and even if he *is* honest, he uses the same line he used on Hannah during the prank. He can end up shooting Emily, which I think is fucked up considering they used to date. His only good quality IMO is that he can be pretty brave at times throughout the game and is a huge part of the plan at the end to blow up the cabin once everyone's out 10. Ashley - I didn't want to put Ashley here in the most immoral spot, but honestly, I cant excuse a lot of her actions. She may not have played an active role in the prank on Hannah, but she did nothing to stop it and still observed it going down similarly to Emily. I also believe her honesty goes down if she apologizes during the ouija board section and if she speaks as if she regrets the prank. In honesty, she doesn't feel any remorse for the prank and likely thinks whatever happened to Hannah/Beth is their faults, not the group. She plays a huge role in egging on Mike to shoot Emily and freaks out at every little thing. Even though she tells Chris to shoot her during the psycho section, if he does shoot the blank at her, she will refuse to open the door for him later on, resulting in his death. Its kind-of just the epitome of a cowardly character that only cares about their own self-preservation above all else

[@xelith6157]

This is my favorite ranking. I agree with your reasoning.

[@itschrishonestly1220]

I am a big Ashley fan but I agree that if certain decisions are made, she can be very immoral. I also do think that this game shows off how immoral people in general could be in an intense and dire situation, often choosing their safety over others.

[@TeddyBearns]

Sam hitting the switch and blowing everyone up is hilarious to me. First of all its so easy to do it too early because you just assume everyone will run from the house. And second, everyone is already so close to the finish line at this point. Sam just going fuck this and taking everyone out with a bang is diabolical 😂

[@lilfreezie6302]

About Emily "cheating" on Matt - there's a great quote from Reservoir Dogs that I think applies to her situation: "If you fucking beat this prick long enough, he'll tell you he started the goddamn Chicago fire, now that don't necessarily make it fucking so!" This is to say that when Matt is interrogating Emily who is inches away from falling into the abyss, she is going to say anything so that he can drag her out of there as fast as possible.

[@simonh7954]

Yes, sorry man. I don’t get this ranking. So while there was choices, you just picked the worst choices that could be made and that’s how you rank them because that choice was a possibility?

[@frognad]

Well the sole fact that these possiblities are options means that the characters can do them. By not taking into account their worst actions he can't rank them morally.

[@attwboy]

incredible video!! finally someone who doesn't think emily the worst person just because she's a bit bitchy lol

[@Luw0108]

Emily's my fav 🫶

[@carangiwallace6238]

Emily is my favorite. From what I remember of the game, I understand her taking it out on Jess and Mike. I don't remember seeing her treat bad Sam or anyone else, but she was rude to Matt

[@Luw0108]

@@carangiwallace6238 yeah she's honest and what she's been threw into the mine is OMG , she's a Real finale girl

[@gaborcsordas]

If you take the worst possible options then the worst is Ashley. She can create drama between Matt and Emily by showing Matt the telescope scene, she can cold-bloodedly kill Chris and also she is trying really hard to get Emily killed (this is not even under our control if Emily gets bitten) Mike can let Jess die, he can also kill Emily, and he basically kills Josh as well, so he is not great either, but at least he is really active in helping the group

[@shaynadonovan7684]

Of course the player is the one making decision but I think comparing what each character are capable of when they are at their worst is a great indicator, it is interesting to see how far they can go for their own survival. Those options exist because the Characters can go as far.

[@vitorlunkes]

I think ashley still the least immoral, if you choose to say sorry to hanna/beth on the oujia board scene her honesty goes lower, foreshadowing that she has no regrets about the prank and its consequences. She asks chris to shoot her, and also dont stand up for emily in the basement, she kills chris and her relationship with mike goes to zero if he kill emilly showing that she is also an liar and hypocrite.

[@PEWPlays]

Nah. It is us who makes them immoral in some choices. But for some stuff that we are not in control- it is clear who are the worst and very unredeemable: ASHLEY(plain dumb and annoying) and JESSICA(prankmaster)

[@Rowan_0161]

The problem with this list and topic in general is u use justifications for some and not others and imo you have to balance the good with the bad, for instance Em dose nothing to help anyone, she causes stress for matt who tries to help her and like you said pushishes ash motivated by anger not fear where as mike acts as the groups protector constantly sacrificing himself to try and save the others, yes he can make some bad choices but most come from fear like Em turning and he doesn't make a quick desison

[@jayvaldez9984]

not only did em show empathy and concern to her friends (when she saw ash bloodied after the josh saw scene, comforted ashley when chris died, showed remorse for the prank and in the house for the twins if she found all clues and beths head in the mine, can show remorse for matt if he dies, and showed concern for sam if ashley dies in the trapdoor), she also gave the idea to call for help to essentially save everyone and she helps matt if he falls down the cliff with no hesitation unlike matt in the fire tower. To be fair her bitchiness only applied to jess, mike or ashley and on matt (who wronged or could wrong her), she was never bitchy to sam, josh, or chris.

[@Rowan_0161]

@jayvaldez9984 whilest yes, she felt bad they all felt bad for what they did, the idea for the call tower came when they saw the map non of the others new about it or could even make it as they were in trouble and Matt literally couldn't off helped her as he was balanceing the tower, I question why em didn't try to clime up she just sat their and bitched at matt, and like I mentioned actions speak louder than words and when everything goes down she dosnt do anything heroic like the others atleast can do, I personally don't think any of them are immoral as their decision all make sense bar Emily pushing ash when getting chased at the end but I don't think Em dose anything unique

[@traciecook6193]

I wonder if anyone else has noticed that Matt assumes something happened between Emily and Mike because they hugged. Yes, they used to date. Yes, they're still friends and presumably close. But that doesn't mean they hooked up. She was confused and .... Matt put in the words, not Emily. If he had brought this up at a time where her life wasn't in danger, I could be easier on him for it. But he made a judgement call when his girlfriend was in peril. At that point, in order to save her own life, I could see her agreeing to anything if it meant he would help her.

[@MrWahooStudios]

I mean, Ashley says it herself, they're not hugging in the "friendzone" kinda way. I would think too that I was getting cheated on if I saw that

[@traciecook6193]

True, but he should have waited until she was safe and not just assumed. I also feel like Ashley disliked Emily more than the others. She may have said something to plant the idea in Matt's head.

[@jerboa7897]

​@@traciecook6193 what would be your reaction If you saw your actual girlfriend hugging her ex anywhere?

[@traciecook6193]

@@jerboa7897 Knowing they were friends, I'd talk to them but I wouldn't do it while their life was in danger. My main concern would be to make sure they were safe first. He could have talked to her about this way earlier.

[@traciecook6193]

I had a close friend in high school who had a boyfriend like Matt. He knew she dated other guys before him, and said he was fine with it. However, if he saw any "proof" of it, he held it against her and blamed her for things that didn't happen (including cheating). She did end up leaving him, but it was years of him being paranoid and toxic beforehand. In his mind, if he believed something to be true it was, even if evidence proved he was wrong. Did Emily make a mistake? Yes. But I felt her "confession" was more of a "he won't help me up if I don't answer in the way he wants that I'll admit to anything" that I got from her.

[@allengeorge8866]

I hate the fact in the remake they changed how Ashley reacted when Chris “shoots” her. In the original she very much intentionally lets him die outside. Made her character very dark and I don’t see the reason they changed it.

[@KIWIMADNEZ]

You know it never occurred to me Sam can kill 3 of her friends to save herself! 😅😂😂😂

[@YoungRiseTV]

Don’t have a full ranking but I do agree with Mike and Ashley being towards the top. Ashley as opposed to Emily benefits from have the “good girl” image but what she did throughout the story was a lot worse. Mike was a dick lol. When he said what he said to Jessica I was like “are we really gonna use the same exact line that is the reason Hannah and Beth are dead right now? Unbelievable” lol. It could’ve been just some friendly flirting but he even tried to flirt with Sam towards the end of the game when he said “no one likes cold buns… well yours are cool…” but Sam didn’t bite lol. Freezing cold, on the way to tell Josh that Hannah buried Beth down here and not to mention not trying to alert the Wendigo, maybe not the best time lol. I could be mixing things up but you get the point, not a Mike fan. 😆😆

[@Karma-ej7gl]

Mike also lets josh die

[@YoungRiseTV]

@@Karma-ej7gl right. Didn’t even think of that

[@WisteriaMonked]

Someone once gave a really good analysis of this on Reddit that sought to balance what the character always/has to do vs. player choice. (Plus fixed heroic moments, perhaps). Because you could have certain characters basically not do anything very wrong the whole game while others have no timeline in which they did not do x thing. This gets intense and complex in extremely polar situations like Chris’s gun trap which ranges from him sacrificing a friend, to him sacrificing himself, making him very polar between selfish and above and beyond selfless. Whereas Jess’s actions never amount to anything horrible, but there’s no timeline in which she won’t create the prank. In contrast, there is a possible timeline where Sam harms nobody at all and is basically completely unproblematic the whole story. Not true for Emily who always does the prank and automatically shoves Ashley/bad talks Matt if certain other things are chosen. Matt is another polar example because you can play him as the most patient man ever or have him snap at a really bad moment.

[@WisteriaMonked]

Additionally, yes-it feels like maybe heroism should fit into this? Jess doesn’t do much horrible, but she doesn’t really show extreme heroism in tricky situations like Chris trying to save Josh because of their friendship and questioning if it’s morally correct to kill a wendigo, or Sam potentially risking her own life multiple times to get everyone out. This really is a nuanced question, I think! It feels like it should be more than comparing individual bad deeds.

[@EKZDemjanenko]

Sam is most moral character. Sam thought that running to the switch will let all wendigoes follow her to let others run away, but Mike, Emily and Ashley stayed because they were in fear.

[@roro_0r]

this is a really bad ranking, it´s clear what characters are your favorites🤦‍♂

[@Dontstop772]

That’s what I’m saying. He is really looking at what the PLAYER chooses instead of their CANON personality. An example would be Sam because realistically sam wouldn’t flip the switch with people still alive. Also Ashley below Josh when he literally TRAUMATIZED AND ASSAULT the group. Someone who has morals would NOT have done that because making people suffer only allows more suffering. The only thing you could say about Ashley was that she did not regret the prank which is immoral but, everything she does next is because of the player’s actions. The title should been ‘’My favorite character tier list with a LOT of bias in it’’.

[@yoshinobnnyof]

I totally agree with you. I always saw Mike as a hero in the game because I only made good and pacific decisions with him, but now with the bad options opened up, yeah, he can be QUITE immoral

[@iankinnell5643]

Chris & Jess both dont have to aim at the Animals plus Chris can aim the gun at himself so these things dependent on choice adjusts the morally of them

[@JoyfulJJ]

I think Sam Chris Hannah Beth Matt Josh Mike Ashley Jessica

[@whalewolf7477]

Yeah IMO From most to least Good morally 1. Sam 2. Chris 3. Jessica 4. Matt 5. Mike 6. Emily 7. Ashley

[@whalewolf7477]

Nvm im changing it because i thought about it more 1. Jessica 2. Sam 3. Chris 4. Matt 5. Emily 6. Mike 7. Ashley

[@emil6568]

​@@whalewolf7477good, but where is josh?

[@ikeafoodmanager9251]

Do u hv like any reasons why Jess is rather high? I mean she's my fav but imo she's pretty evil cz she orchestrated the whole prank

[@Spider-Man62]

I think you make mistakes with this list in that you pick the worst choices you can make instead of looking at their actual character. I think Matt is one of the most moral in that even if you choose to jump instead of saving Emily it's not out of selfishness it's out of logic and if the situation was the other way around Emily definitely would've jumped and not even considered saving Matt. In terms of Sam she's definitely one of the most moral aswell as while you have the option to run for the switch her character throughout the game indicates she would definitely try her best to save everyone. I think the only one you got spot on was Mike bc yh I think he would've at least heavily considered killing Em to save everyone else in the safe room. In terms of Ashley and Chris saying they're immoral bc they supported killing Em is ridiculous bc anyone in that situation would believe that the bites are infectious. And in terms of Chris shooting Ashley he would not do that. There are lots more examples that I could name.

[@berybluu6081]

i think it's important to note that matt and emily called for help at the fire tower

[@IdioticMichael]

I think Emily is getting too much hate for her personality because she is really mean but only because of how her friends hurt her. See it from her point of view. Her best friend, Jess, got with her man immediately after they broke up. Mike, someone who she trusted deeply, got with her best friend after dumping her. It was also referenced that Mike dumped her because she wouldn't get with him. Jess called her too frigid. Jess should be lower than Emily because she's a backstabber and opportunist. She would've been worse if Hannah hadn't dragged her ass out a window. FYI not a jess hater Shes top three for me just think shes a bad person.

[@TheBlackDemon1996]

I feel like discounting all the good things the characters can do kinda makes this list feel a little confirmation bias-y.

[@youtubecruiser6819]

Emily was callous towards matts death even when he died trying to save her in the original. Im not sure but I think only in the remake she shows sadness.

[@charles1291]

This is false. Those lines also appear in the original

[@youtubecruiser6819]

@@charles1291 I just saw it. She only shows any guilt if Matt sides with her during the Jess fight. She's a heartless witch.

[@charles1291]

@@youtubecruiser6819 False. You just have to keep their relationship high, there are playthroughs where she says that regardless of who he sides with or whether he jumps to safety. The only way to truly lower their relationship is by insulting her, attacking and killing the deer, and/or leaving her to die. Emily being heartless is false -the point of Emily's character is to subvert her initial mean girl facade and show that there is a vulnerable and affectionate person beneath the surface. In moments alone with Matt this is seen as well as her being distraught when he falls after attacking the deer and her being the only character who shows remorse for the prank without it being the player's choice. This is why the developers state that she has "potentially one of the most heroic arcs of the game." Ashley's is the opposite, being the "nice girl" who has the capacity to be cold and vindictive, that is, letting Chris die out of a grudge. Unlike Emily, Ashley's remorse is the player's choice and her honesty goes down if she is sympathetic and apologetic, and the opposite otherwise. Ashley comes close to being heartless more than Emily, who is only mean as a front and only to people who betray her and/or risk her life, that is Jessica, Ashley, Mike, and potentially Matt.

[@patrickmarquez8307]

​​@@charles1291 But Ashley's compassion goes up when you have her be sympathethic which means that she really wants to show that she cares so she is not that heartless there are people in other fictional media who are not willing to show that they care even if they saved people lives. A certain superhero that the protagonist looked up to in Tiger and Bunny is an example. What happened in that story is that a superhero saved multiple people's lives but acts abusive towards his family. While Emily is helpful she is abusive, there are even a bunch of stories that condem the type of thinking Emily has even if she is insecure and does not want to be left behind. Emily is pretty much like Rick, from Rick and Morty they are both smart people who saved multiple lives but they are still selfish people who has a problem who don't do what they want.

[@ButcLesb]

I think it would be better if everyone would judge people on their pre-game actions since the gameplay itself it up to the player on if they are moral or not. Emily, Mike, Jessica, and Matt are the worst since it is obvious that they are the core instigators for what happened ultimately to Hannah. Josh is the only one completely clear since he passed out before anything went down. Ashley and Chris have the body language of people that just went along with everything because they wanted to be liked and seen as part of the crowd. It is actually obvious that they are the group geeks that are kept around to help with homework or because they have deep childhood connections to others in the popular crowd. They aren't very moral because of this but are more mid than bad. Beth is also clear because right up until player choice is an issue she defended her sister and tried to help her. Sam is the only one of the group that knew about the prank that refused to participate and even though she was too late she tried to stop it. This makes her the most moral character in the game before player choices get involved.

[@firefiy8789]

It's probably important to remember that mike is one of the only people who can use firearms in the game. Its hard to say what other characters would do if they had guns when fighting with each other

[@PauloHenrique-ok3yb]

in my opinion the order is: sam - chris - jessica - emily - matt - mike - josh - ashley

[@Luzlapis]

It all depends on the choices you make. You are the one who decides their morality.

[@ploosiedasix]

Yeah nevermind the fact that Mike can also go John Wick Jr chasing Jess down trying to rescue her, play a huge role in saving everybody on the mountain, and even save Wolfie from the wendigos in the sanatorium instead of leaving it to die; clearly he's obviously the most irredeemable POS in all of Until Dawn's universe because he had a big part in the same awful prank most the rest of the cast also took part in, and like every other character, can be played as an asshole if the player decides to pick all his worst QTE/prompt options (such as "being manipulative" by using the same line on Jess that he used on Hannah.. *if* you take the negative option of trying to get Jess naked as soon as they get in that cabin, instead of the positive options where he makes sure she's okay and comfortable before anything else and doesn't say that line at all). Undeniably worse than Ashley for sure, I mean she's only really unlikable and whiny even when played at her absolute best and arguably the biggest bitch of the bunch when played at her worst. Anyway gg on being part of the ranks of the millions of other rage baiters on the internet, here's your bronze star. Now how do I block specific channels from coming up in my recommended feed

[@iankinnell5643]

Chris also doesnt participate in the prank on Hannah unless the remake has him involved

[@echothesilent4693]

Matt: tries to plan a way to rescue someone. Said person: didn't think you idiot, just get me out of here >:\

[@theingenue4398]

i think jess should be ranked higher with mike personally, they deserve eachother. jess orchestrated an entire prank to coerce and sexually humiliate hannah in front of everyone, as punishment for being a bad friend and going after mike while he was with emily. she then betrays emily by getting with him and shows no empathy, brushing her off as a jealous ex who wants to get inbetween them rather than an ex friend who’s having a normal reaction to seeing two people she loved the most who betrayed her planning to go off and have sex in the cabin. calling her a skank, whore, bitch - and for what? i also hated when she says “emily too frigid for you, too?” to matt. emily likely confided her insecurities and problems with her and mikes relationship to her. she then uses this against her which is beyond cruel. emily’s reaction to seeing them pales in comparison to josh having to see them together, though. imagine being passed out drunk while your friends are over, waking up to find out that your sisters are missing and presumed dead after one was cruelly punished for going after her friends boyfriend. then, one year later, you see the same girl who orchestrated the prank to “defend emily” shamelessly flaunting mike on her arm - having done the same thing she punished hannah for which indirectly killed her. with no apology to josh or ability to read the room. jess didn’t deserve what happened to her but i can’t stand her.

[@theingenue4398]

my personal ranking, best to worst in terms of morality: beth hannah chris sam ashleigh matt emily jess mike i left josh out as i think it’s difficult to rank a characters morality when they were depicted as seriously mentally ill, off their meds and with a disorder and grief stricken. never liked how they made him a low-key creep, though

[@praevidens]

I'd put Beth at 10 and Hannah at 9 since (correct me if I'm wrong) Beth dropping Hannah was an option while Hannah eating Beth to survive is doomed to happen

[@NimaFrost]

I thought Matt's real name was Idiot, until i saw 'meet the cast' video!

[@kingshark9057]

Hannah in no way deserves the title of most moral yikes

[@margarethmichelina5146]

At first, I didn't like Emily very much as she's the most bitchy of the group but then, when I replayed the game, I find out that she's actually the smartest member of the group as she persuades the people on the radio and also is very agile when she got chased by a Wendigo in mines. Also, everyone around her always betray her like -Mike, her ex boyfriend -Jess, her ex best friend who dates Mike later -Ashley when she told everyone to shoot her just because she got bit by Wendigo and will turn to be a Wendigo (they ain't Zombies!) -Matt, if you choose to side with Jessica during their arguments and also not very supportive towards her throughout entire time. So, I can see why she is so passive aggresive toward everyone. At least when she found out of Hannah and Beth's remains on the mines, she feels guilty. For me, the most immoral character is going to be Mike like dude is not even apologize to the prank a year later or even feeling remorse to Josh for causing his sisters death also leave poor Josh who is in his schizophrenia in the mine alone instead help him!Also, he clowned Emily and dated Jessica later. Even when he and Sam found Hannah's diary, he still not feeling guilty to make them died. And he was very rude and too sarcastic to flamethrower guy who just wants to help.

[@crystalcrow44]

tbh this ranking doesn't feel very in depth to me. it takes only a few instances from each character and bases it on that. And don't forget how the player choice can go against the established personalities of the characters. For example, Sam wouldn't kill the others in the lodge to save herself. It's established that she would try and help them all out. But the player can still choose to have her run to the switch and kill everyone else inside the lodge.

[@jhexyz]

Emily still the best yeah she maybe a bitch at the start but you can see her character when it comes to the climax of the game, even though she is misunderstood at crucial times she always proves herself and knows what's she is capable off.

[@Creativyarnbynuria]

i think emily is the worst character and I like Chris, Sam, Mike and matt the most. Josh is fine too but the others are just annoying and some are just super selfish and dont have the best character

[@thatoneguy1232]

To add on to Mike, this guy continues to make stupid decisions decisions that puts everyone including himself at risk and he also makes boneheaded and dangerous assumptions. I don’t know if they necessarily attribute to immorality but they’re still there and he rarely if ever apologizes for it. A lot of stuff has been mentioned in the video already but some other of his poor decision making is like how he can just straight up abandon Jess. Yea he thinks she’s dead, but that’s the issue! Dangerous assumption and she could have actually lost her life. Instead of finding a way down to her, he instead follows the stranger despite there really being no way a human man can do what happened to Jess. He even goes to shoot the man before he can even be certain of his guilt. Blaming Josh for Jess’ death is yet another dangerous assumption to make. Beating him the whole way to the shed(but gets upset if Chris hits him). Worst of all, a detail I feel gets grossly overlooked, is that he leaves the basement to get the cable car key. He was NOT going there to save Josh. The fact he was even alive was incidental. And the worst part is that by going on this foolish mission, he puts the group in more danger! As things stood, the only threat was Handigo, they just needed to wait until dawn, they had TWO exits should anything happen, and they even had Josh’s surveillance cameras. Had Mike just stayed put like Sam urged, they’d have been relatively safe. Instead he goes and inadvertently frees the wendigo trapped in the sanitarium which leads to the others rushing out the basement and starting the finale of the game. Yea he comes up with the plan to blow the lodge, but it’s Sam who’s put in the most precarious position! And in the end his mission doesn’t even matter because 1) Sam can die which means the key burns with her body and 2) the authorities arrive like Sam and Emily said they would so they don’t get to use the car anyways.

[@VampKhai]

ngl FUCK josh dude deserved all that

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Joshua, well he had mental problem and still grieving about whay happened with his sisters. Jessica, of course she most annoying one in the game and most selfish one. Hannah, well she just too naive and i think she have some kind adhd Beth is depend on your choice. Mike is asshole but he huge animal lovers and caring with his friends. Ashley ready to get her self killed in panic state, yes she bitch for not opening door for Chris but that happened when she not in panic stated and start rethinking about her decision. Emily actually caring person, she bitch because she feel everyone betrayed her. Matt just feel insecure and betrayed Chris most unproblematic one Sam most good one

[@Aslyxia]

It would be cool if you could do this video again, but purely choose the true route this gime (if that makes sense)

[@Smiley0.1]

Am I the only one that just DOESN'T hate any of them anymore? Like yea some of them suck but after 9 years of playing and watching videos on the game, you just end up getting used to their bullshit lmao.

[@jelicabalog4420]

Didnt hannah eat her sister?

[@Darkwatch2002]

Does Everyone seriously hate Ashley?

[@Lila_Moon]

Tbh yeah, I never liked her. I thought she was annoying.

[@Darkwatch2002]

@@Lila_Moon well I didn't. I disliked Emily the most.

[@that_dude_over_there]

At first no, but after looking at her actions yes.

[@Darkwatch2002]

@@that_dude_over_there perhaps some of them were mistakes by supermassive when they were developing the game.

[@that_dude_over_there]

@@Darkwatch2002 perhaps. It could also be an attempt to make Ashley a more realistic character. However they failed to balance her negative traits with positive ones. Or failed to show off her positive qualities in a meaningful way.

[@lovinavargas-carriedo2698]

Emily, Ashley, and Mike are on top for me. They deserve to be gotten and not to make it out. Probably Jessica and Matt after that. I can never remember if Mike or Matt are the douche who played with Hannah's feelings at the start. The. Went on to care about Jessica but still prioritize sex.

[@soupspeaker]

1 = Most moral, 8 = Most immoral (If you want me to explain one of them just ask me and I will do so) 1 = Sam 2 = Ashley 3 = Matt 4 = Chris 5 = Michael 6 = Jessica 7 = Josh 8 = Emily

[@dercfts1]

i strongly disagree😨

[@thatoneguy1232]

This is just objectively wrong

[@soupspeaker]

@@dercfts1 yall can disagree all you want, but I have my reasons and good ones at that

[@catorugojoo]

@@soupspeakerlmaoo ashley💀💀

[@lipaschaangel8973]

Yeah....right😂

[@gwnz9753]

emily cheating and being on 7 spot, while chris not parcipitating in hannah prank, ofcourse he didint even get to be in it because he drinked to much with josh, but he literally cries the most after josh death, he aint thing of women like others in there, and he's just person who wants to help everyone even after josh punched ashley, manipulated and delivered them horrors, he had gone out and risked his life to save him, he is true king, also ashley deserves 1 spot for what she did to chris, atleast mike tried to help everyone, sure he really wanted to get his revenge at josh but who wouldn't? would you belive a sick man he didnt do something to your girlfriend, after seeing his emotions change so rapidly? ashley can just kill chris bc "omg i said you could kill me to save yourself but i actually didnt mean this, now i want you dead" and she puts emily i this situation, being happy for mike k***ing her, and then in settings you can see instantlly her disliking mike for it

[@frognad]

Emily wasn't cheating which was confirmed by the devs, when she was hugging mike she was most likely just getting closure after being dumpped randomly, why she lied to Matt about it I couldn't tell you.

[@higharchbishopofteatasting6217]

Yeah, I'll just be honest, this ranking flat out sucks. Its the most biasesed ranking I've ever seen.

[@Mavuika_Gyaru]

Nah Mike is the GOAT who locks in

[@berybluu6081]

that revolver to shoot his ex

[@flavioionasc4947]

@@berybluu6081 tbf he wanted to take precaution for everyone in the room and emily didn't want to listen (to leave the room), plus he was HEAVILY pushed by ashley by gaslighting everyone that a bite was 100% gonna turn her into a wendigo. Yes, going to shoot her was a bit extreme but at that moment nobody was really relaxed knowing about the monster and how the stranger (and potentially chris) died so easily. In the heat of the moment, especially when u're willing to make big sacrifices to save the rest, u're not gonna think more than twice

[@KatelynPitman-k6h]

That's the thing with Mike, in any situation he doesn't think before doing something. He's not completely immoral, but the way he goes about Emily is very emotional. He unfortunately doesn't take into consideration that maybe they should get more information then that. He listens to Ashley if she says get her out. Also he puts himself in danger a lot of times that in reality would get him killed easily. If you compared him to Sam, 100% Sam is more moral than him because she doesn't put herself in situation that's dangerous. Her friends do so the way she goes about danger things especially with Mike is to doubt that maybe Emily won't turn whereas Mike instantly turns to the idea without thinking maybe this is a bad idea

[@berybluu6081]

@@flavioionasc4947 but victor had just explained how the curse works. saying it was a bit extreme is an understatement

[@charles1291]

Mike's heroism comes from narcissism as per his official bio and is trigger happy and impulsive and can get people killed for no reason. He's not the GOAT of anything lmao. Also the only character who can potentially get most his relationships to 0 by the end yikes