Rappel fails! beta breakdown ep 4

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In this episode I found two rappel fails off of KZbin and break them down, as the title suggests.
Original source material: • My Rappelling Fail
• Rappelling Accident Re...

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@Phoenixhunter157 6 ай бұрын

I love this video breakdown of fails. Very informative. Please continue to do more. 🙏🏽❤️

@seanealey3636 10 ай бұрын

that long hair in the first video also super scary, lucky it didn't end up in the device

@alexroberts3625 10 ай бұрын

always excited to see you post a video keep up the great work!

@rickkrause3198 10 ай бұрын

My take on the second video, is the rappel line was not in a straight line with gravity, and when he put full weight on the line it snapped in place.

@jonettang 10 ай бұрын

Third hand use, this would be useful in the first video. Second video would need a bomber setup, daisy chain straps are not strong enough for fixed anchor rappel. Luckily, it wasn't worse in the end.

@wj2036 10 ай бұрын

I watched another youtuber review the second video, and one spectulation that you didnt mention had to do with the possibility that they were near the end of the rope. As you get towards the end of a dynamic rope, there is a LOT of rope being stretched. I couldnt explain the exact physics, but basically you need a lot more friction when near the end of a rope. The rope might have slipped quickly to the end, which is what caused that pop. I think this theory combined with your observation of the older grigri and thin rope, covers the main possibilities. Although, with that weird dasiy chain just connected to a random part of the rope, inexperience could've been the ultimate downfall. Whoops, no pun intended

@ryantilley9063 10 ай бұрын

For sure being near the end of the rope decreases friction on the break side, and the video does make it look like the climber rappelled off the end of their rope, but I just couldn't see that as the main cause of the fall. I feel like even for an inexperienced person it is hard to commit to a rope that only had a few feet left. Also from the vantage point in the cave they could probably see the end of the rope on the ground. That's why I didn't bring up that possibility, the situation didn't seem to fit. When it comes to the rope stretching itself out of a device at the very end of the full length, that is mostly a myth. When you rappel to the very end of the rope, it's fully stretched out under your body weight, the elasticity of the rope only returns when you weight is taken off of the rope. So if a climber rappels off the end of their rope it would be because of the lack of an end knot and/ or poor break hand control more than the rope being fully stretched out. Another reason why I don't think these guys are close to the end of their rope is when the climber weights the rope from the cave there is little to no stretch before he's fully transfered his weight to the rope. If you have the rope anchored above there should be some sag as you sit on the rope from the stretch, the less rope that is between the anchor and the climber the less it'll stretch so i feel like they have plenty of rope in the system.

@wj2036 10 ай бұрын

I see your point. To be clear though, I wasnt saying he went off the end of the rope, I was saying the rope slipped, possibly all the way to the end knot. Also, I understand what you are saying about the stretched rope and how it only returns after being unweighted. And after another watch, it actually does look like he was bouncing just a bit right before the fall. Its very slgiht, but if he was towards the end of a long rope, even a tiny bounce could cause it to slip. Though, your point about it not stretching much when initially weighting it is valid. Also, I just noticed their shoes 🤦‍♂️ they're both wearing like, skater shoes or something...so most likley some newbies here