Raspberry Pi 8GB Review - Should you upgrade?

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@BreakingPintMedia
@BreakingPintMedia 4 жыл бұрын
"99% of people won't need the 8GB model.." Who can sleep at night knowing there's a model available with more RAM, though?
@dion4037
@dion4037 4 жыл бұрын
Dude facts....Its driving me crazy
@Angultra
@Angultra 4 жыл бұрын
I can sleep at night knowing an extra $40 is in my wallet.
@WarpOverload
@WarpOverload 4 жыл бұрын
too bad i have it
@dion4037
@dion4037 4 жыл бұрын
@@WarpOverload nice 👌 what are your thoughts on it performance wise?
@R6-D2
@R6-D2 4 жыл бұрын
@ BreakingPintMedia Me trying to sleep when I'm pricing out a new build 🥱 😴 🤔 🤤 😪 😵 🥴 🤯 😳
@wikimovel7444
@wikimovel7444 4 жыл бұрын
0:00 Intro 0:45 Microcenter 1:12 Unboxing 1:42 Random Access Memory identification *edited, thx! 2:11 Board connectors 2:27 Specs 3:12 Board comparison w/ 4GB model 4:13 Raspberry Pi OS 5:25 GIMP 6:22 OpenShot 7:28 OpenShot + Chromium 9:10 + Blender (7 GB) 10:09 Conclusion
@Alex-hh7iw
@Alex-hh7iw 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers bro
@someone321
@someone321 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@aleksi1537
@aleksi1537 4 жыл бұрын
@@prla5400 Random access memory memory
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Ford_Prefect
@Ford_Prefect 4 жыл бұрын
What about kvm support? Does the new Raspbian OS 64 Bit support kvm out of the box without problem? Virtualization is one great use for 8 gigs of ram on an ARM CPU.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
"If you're not familiar with MicroCenter" Oh, I know they exist. They just don't exist around here.
@TechnicolorMammoth
@TechnicolorMammoth 4 жыл бұрын
I moved to a place where there aren't any and I really, REALLY miss my old MicroCenter.
@mrbisshie
@mrbisshie 4 жыл бұрын
There is one on the border of my city, which I can go to if I took an hour long train ride, lol. I've been tempted to go there a few times...
@TacticalPower88
@TacticalPower88 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that :(
@TacticalPower88
@TacticalPower88 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrbisshie Definitely go, especially if you love tech. Hour train ride isn't that bad. Shop online first and then go pick it up at the store for best prices and convenience.
@todddelozier8172
@todddelozier8172 4 жыл бұрын
They have a really good social media team and will respond to store opening suggestions. Very good company.
@BulldogautoGaming
@BulldogautoGaming 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much the pi's have progressed in such a short time.
@todddelozier8172
@todddelozier8172 4 жыл бұрын
Right? I have the 4gb. I just use it as a coding PC. The processor is going to be a bottleneck for the 8gb RAM. I wonder if better cpu's are possible.
@kwinzman
@kwinzman 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair when the Pi4 came out it was lagging behind the Rockpies by at least 2 years in terms of CPU, RAM and USB3. It's easier to catch up quickly releatively if you are behind by a lot.
@blackhatfreak
@blackhatfreak 4 жыл бұрын
POWER!!!!
@BulldogautoGaming
@BulldogautoGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still messing around with a Pi Zero.
@thewallduck2022
@thewallduck2022 4 жыл бұрын
@@todddelozier8172 maybe on the b+ model ?
@Fordi
@Fordi 4 жыл бұрын
"I could open up 50 chrome tabs, but not a lot of people are gonna be doing that" Oh, you sweet summer child.
@lightskinninja9340
@lightskinninja9340 4 жыл бұрын
The 8GB model would be more appealing if the cpu was upgraded as well. A 6 core ARM processor with 8GB of ram for $75 would be great
@tzokke
@tzokke 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think just throwing more cores at the pi would make much of an impact. Even overclocked at 2Ghz, it's still pretty slow.
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 4 жыл бұрын
@@tzokke linux likes cores as its a desktop os too, those are phone cores if you cant get stronger and bigger cores just get more cores
@lightskinninja9340
@lightskinninja9340 4 жыл бұрын
Anonymous you got to look at the use cases. A lot of what the pies are used for would benefit from having extra cores. Even if they are slow cores having more of them will take some of the load off
@BitmapFrogs
@BitmapFrogs 4 жыл бұрын
4 cores is OK. The problem is we're running 28nm, like 4-5 nodes behind current cutting edge.
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 4 жыл бұрын
@@BitmapFrogs 28nm is cheap and uses low power as new cores exist only in high performance type
@antikommunistischaktion
@antikommunistischaktion 4 жыл бұрын
> In reality, not a lot of people are going to be doing that **stares at my 40+ open Chrome tabs**
@АлексейДмитриев-ш1ф
@АлексейДмитриев-ш1ф 4 жыл бұрын
* me writing this comment in 464th tab in Firefox and closed over 700 tabs some time ago *: don't understand what are you talking about
@mausmalone
@mausmalone 4 жыл бұрын
*looks at 1 open Chromium tab on a Raspberry Pi 3* oh I, uh, apparently I'm all tapped out.
@ShermanSitter
@ShermanSitter 4 жыл бұрын
...watching on my 2011 custom built desktop using Firefox with 16 GB of RAM...
@treasurewuji8740
@treasurewuji8740 4 жыл бұрын
Feel you. The fact I can crash a gaming laptop with just chrome.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 4 жыл бұрын
The people making these videos don't understand how your average user actually uses their systems. Also You need far more memory than you are using.
@rafaelmartinvannostrand2084
@rafaelmartinvannostrand2084 4 жыл бұрын
I reall don't get the "this is not the point of the pi"... when the pi came out it costed around 35 and it had 256 ram. Now with that money you can get 2 gb of ram with a quadcore. Plus, IF YOU FANCY, you can get up to 8GB of ram. PLUS! if you're looking for something really basic and efficient there's the zero. So the product range is at the same price when it come out, its more powerful, there are more options plus they added another model for very basic projects. I really really really don't see what's the problem (neither the people that are buying these like hot cakes)
@fredtaylor9792
@fredtaylor9792 4 жыл бұрын
It's simple actually. They're afraid that the higher end hardware will sell well and the lower cost options will disappear. Whether it will or not is a separate discussion but the question of "why" people are concerned....well they see it happen time and time again so I think it's pretty simple to understand.
@leftoverzaggy
@leftoverzaggy 4 жыл бұрын
i like hot cakes though lol
@seanabsher5577
@seanabsher5577 4 жыл бұрын
There will always be a market for the cheaper ones, as well as a market for the better performing ones. I'm actually waiting for the better drivers for pi4 before I buy one, because while it is the better hardware, my pi3b is still enough for what it does , at least until the pi 4 has good graphics drivers, so we can see what performance boosts we'll get on n64, ps1, Saturn, Dreamcast, and x86... That's the big thing, if I'm not using it as a video player or an emulation machine, it's just a mid-range gaming / general purpose computer when I don't want to use my high end computer or smartphone.
@lifehacker123
@lifehacker123 4 жыл бұрын
I just don't see the point of a 8GB version. That is just far too much RAM for a Pi 4. Before you are even close to filling up the 4GB's RAM, something else will be far more overloaded, probably the CPU is going to bottleneck really hard far before the RAM does. I mean, it's cool that you can create a 4GB RAM disk and still have 4GB RAM left, sure. But what are you going to do with that? There is no scenario where the CPU now wouldn't be one huge bottle neck.
@connorbelli1327
@connorbelli1327 4 жыл бұрын
the only point of this is ramdisking to make up for the lack of native m.2 or sata, but at that point i would rather buy something like a jetson nano or n2
@dannycoy5775
@dannycoy5775 4 жыл бұрын
This is a good step in a direction for the pi to start taking over for your daily driver. With the Memory not being one of the limiting factors, devs can start to make more of their os builds. This version of Pi OS looks very beautiful as well. People will love making there own mac version on the pi and showing off to there friends with mac books. Can not wait to see what comes in the future from the Pi people. I will keep watching your channel for the future of this. Thanks for all your good work. I depend on your videos to keep me up to date. I am headed for your Patreon page now.
@keco185
@keco185 4 жыл бұрын
I hope they offer better boot drive interfaces in the future. m.2 would be really nice. Even a USB 3 flash drive.
@cbob213
@cbob213 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man, Chrome tabs with different websites on them is exactly the type of real world use case scenario people want to see. Even 2 or 3 windows with 10 - 15+ tabs on each. File explorer (multiple windows) with network file transfer etc.
@FractalZero
@FractalZero 4 жыл бұрын
Ultimately, there comes a time in everyone's life when they groan and think, "ffs why didn't i buy more ram". No such thing as too much ram. Worth it every time.
@clebbington
@clebbington 4 жыл бұрын
why buy it when you can just download more
@EricJorgensen
@EricJorgensen 4 жыл бұрын
I built an Athlon FX (bulldozer) linux machine with 32gb of ram thinking i would run a lot more VMs than i do. Usually 20+gb of it is just buffers.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 4 жыл бұрын
More Ram is always a future proofing thing.
@Utkarsh_A
@Utkarsh_A 4 жыл бұрын
Especially when it can't be upgraded down the line
@BrianG61UK
@BrianG61UK 4 жыл бұрын
You never upgrade your CPU when a more powerful one comes out then?
@patthesoundguy
@patthesoundguy 4 жыл бұрын
I was just about to order a pi 4 4g and then this 8gig version hit. Glad I waited it out lol
@ewftghjkl
@ewftghjkl 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a pi for me who video edits while powersurfing the web image editing and rendering full scenes in blender
@RyanLec84
@RyanLec84 4 жыл бұрын
Still truly blows me away that these little SBC Raspberry Pi's ABSOLUTELY SMOKE the giant ass tower computers we used doing the same things, back in the mid-late 90's to early 2000's... And it's the size of a freaking Credit Card!!!!!!!!!!
@jackssrv
@jackssrv 4 жыл бұрын
My dad worked on some of the very first high capacity drum drives used in early "super computers", 80 KB and the size of washing machine, 30 KB more than IBM's model. Shortly before he died I showed him a 1.5TB HGST 2.5 inch drive. It was not US made, and he didn't think it was very durable. Pi1 with 256MB card roughly equal to a 4 acre DARPA computing center at the beginning of the Vietnam War. By the moon landing more powerful and less than an acre.
@Drag0nvil
@Drag0nvil 4 жыл бұрын
My first pc has a 256mb ram stick in it. And I was already kinda late to the party.
@ironwolf3699
@ironwolf3699 4 жыл бұрын
10:25 aww thats cute, the heat sink has heat pipes.
@KeyBored101
@KeyBored101 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the finished 64bit OS to see what it can do.
@superduty4556
@superduty4556 4 жыл бұрын
If I was a manufacturer, this channel would get all my stuff shipped to real quick.
@varmasknowledgehub5235
@varmasknowledgehub5235 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration...
@mirrana491
@mirrana491 4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he says "gigabyte model"
@canwenot573
@canwenot573 4 жыл бұрын
Alcohol poisoning set in at 0:35
@familypve4029
@familypve4029 4 жыл бұрын
I got drunk just reading this comment suggesting taking a shot this frequently.
@MagoMakes
@MagoMakes 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the mindfulness of answering the question early on of whether 8GB will make a difference to emulation or not. Refreshing as a lot of content creators on youtube seem to be blind to what their audience will want (leaving people watching whole videos for the answer to one question). Love yer stuff, man, keep going.
@gregoryrousseau5155
@gregoryrousseau5155 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! That's all i wanted to know! Thanks
@gustavosoto4607
@gustavosoto4607 4 жыл бұрын
I got 2 4gb versions. I think I'll pass on this one.
@caromac_
@caromac_ 4 жыл бұрын
glue 'em together
@josephtremblant2173
@josephtremblant2173 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't resist when got an email at 3am eastern time announcing the 8Gb version a week ago.
@rodethicong
@rodethicong 4 жыл бұрын
Make a supercomputer using those pis
@Cyberdyne_research
@Cyberdyne_research 4 жыл бұрын
U good m8. 2x4gb is faster than 1x8gb.
@silvanpaul2531
@silvanpaul2531 4 жыл бұрын
The sad story is that this little board beats my old computer from 2012
@Noooo23523
@Noooo23523 4 жыл бұрын
this is like a normal phone even slower than todays phones, todays 1000$ phones are as fast as slow laptops today and fast pcs in the past(all other than iphones which are trash)
@Cyberdyne_research
@Cyberdyne_research 4 жыл бұрын
I built my entire lab on a Dell pavilion dv7 that came with Vista. The 4gb outclasses it on literally everything including I/O, but I BUILT A FREAKING ROBOTICS LAB ON A $1000 LAPTOP FROM 2012 FOR UNDER $2000 AND HAVE BOTH AN FDM AND 4K RESIN PRINTER. never say never my guy.
@TGJMTheGamingJMaster
@TGJMTheGamingJMaster 4 жыл бұрын
Mocanu Octavian43 iPhones are really powerful the A13 chip is amazing, and it’s in a 400$ iPhone. The A14 is supposed to be really powerful.
@silvanpaul2531
@silvanpaul2531 4 жыл бұрын
@@TGJMTheGamingJMaster thanks for the input fanboy but i think most android phones (quadcom/mediatek) would still destroy those chips in that price range
@intingln
@intingln 4 жыл бұрын
@@fosspointer lmfao
@KaZeVent
@KaZeVent 4 жыл бұрын
I am very happy with my new RPI4 8GB, the only thing I noticed is that it runs a bit hotter than my RPI 4GB. Did you experience the same?
@matthewgumabon7498
@matthewgumabon7498 3 жыл бұрын
As a big fan of the Raspberry Pi series, I could not resist buying a Pi 4 (8GB model) even though I have been using the 4GB model since its release. Although I agree that there really is not much different about this new model (except with more memory overhead for some programs), I did notice a big difference between my 4GB and 8GB models in overclocking. It seems that my 8GB model is able to overclock much higher than my 4GB model! My old 4GB model (with ICE cooler) was able to manage up to 2300Mhz on the CPU and 750Mhz on the GPU (force turbo set to 1 and overvolt set to 9). It was stable in emulation, desktop usage, and sysbench, but I saw immediate crashes when running the stress-ng benchmark. To my surprise, when I loaded the same config settings to my 8GB model (also equipped with ICE cooler) it was fully stable at 2.3Ghz in stress-ng with temps never rising above 50 deg C. With the enthusiast in me being greedy, I decided to put my shiny new Pi 4 on the line for science, and I pushed it up to 2.4Ghz and was shocked to see it still fully stable in stress testing with no thermal or power throttling at all. It may be just me winning the silicon lottery with this unit, but I suspect firmware updates since release and maybe some of the power managements circuitry changes made to the 8GB may have improved power efficiency enough to allow for higher overclocks compared to the initial release models. I'm curious to see if anyone else has had similar experiences?
@AaronAzan1979
@AaronAzan1979 4 жыл бұрын
Wowzers, doing this sorta stuff at 6:40 in the morning is kinda hardcore.
@udance4ever
@udance4ever 4 жыл бұрын
reading this at 6am.. 🙄
@technologylifeandnature4597
@technologylifeandnature4597 4 жыл бұрын
You are one of the first to share this..Thanks.. I was wondering if it will draw higher current also while using more RAM.. I Prepared a setup .. the increase of current was really less.. New RAM is specified at higher clock frequency.. probably a better choice for over clocking ?
@007-JamesB
@007-JamesB 4 жыл бұрын
4 gb is the sweet spot for that processor's performance, there aren't very many ram intensive things you'd wanna compute on a Pi. Unless it's the only computer you use of course, then 8gb might sound nice, but you'll get fed up with the processor before having any issues with memory.
@jackssrv
@jackssrv 4 жыл бұрын
With a slow flash device as a drive you use the memory to buffer writes and cache reads, assuming you use a properly built kernel, ext4, and proper settings. Try Fedora Linux aarch64.
@hectoro5144
@hectoro5144 4 жыл бұрын
ETA prime I love your channel man! always very clear explanations and great information about the most recent technology! dude you are the coolest!
@VHSvsBETA
@VHSvsBETA 4 жыл бұрын
What’s that strange audio glitch I hear at 4:25 and 4:28 ? I think I need to go to sleep.
@ETAPRIME
@ETAPRIME 4 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks for the heads up, editing it out now.
@TheiTE
@TheiTE 4 жыл бұрын
@@ETAPRIME So there's gonna be a reupload? :)
@VHSvsBETA
@VHSvsBETA 4 жыл бұрын
ETA PRIME 👌🏻
@TheiTE
@TheiTE 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Crown oh is it Thanks for the info, I reupload my videos when there’s an issue XD 😂
@kennyeichert1291
@kennyeichert1291 4 жыл бұрын
I bought one the day you announced it at 3am! I’m happy you made this follow up. It’s going to work perfect for me.
@grahamlewis6777
@grahamlewis6777 4 жыл бұрын
random question.. what photo did you use for your background? I liked it
@thefdlord
@thefdlord 3 жыл бұрын
Best review on this product!
@TrackDayMaker
@TrackDayMaker 4 жыл бұрын
0:45 Hey thats my Micro Center! Shoutouts to Columbus, Ohio.
@tonberryhunter
@tonberryhunter 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact they sell Raspbberry Pis at Best Buy. I picked it up at my local Best Buy with a power supply.
@clumaster
@clumaster 4 жыл бұрын
if you are going to advertise for Micro Center you should really mention that they are only in the states and only ship within the states. people need to remember that youtube is international and not everyone lives in the US.
@radian2323
@radian2323 4 жыл бұрын
Nah. I watch a bunch of vids from people in Europe and in Asia and realize they have different stores than in the US. I don't need someone to tell me that.
@THEWOOKIENESS
@THEWOOKIENESS 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your always good reviews !
@OpenLogicEFI
@OpenLogicEFI 4 жыл бұрын
I don't necessarily get the 8gb. But the 4gb is amazing for what I use it for. I use the Pi's for tuning cars. Instead of a laptop I have them and touchscreens installed in racecars running tuning software and it's insane how good it works. The pi4 works better and is actually faster at on the fly tuning than my cheap laptop. I'm assuming it's because if the type of math the CPU needs to do. But a race dash can cost $1000-$2000. A pi, touchscreens some cleaver install and some 3d prints can reduce this to less than $200 and it works better!!!! But the 8gb? A bit useless IMO for such a low powered CPU.
@djdrastic1
@djdrastic1 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's pretty awesome.
@monsterinfotv8808
@monsterinfotv8808 4 жыл бұрын
Very Well Explained 👍🏻... Love your videos 💯
@IncaWarrior3000
@IncaWarrior3000 4 жыл бұрын
I want to know if it runs marvel vs capcom 2 without overclocking the raspberry pi.
@renobodyrenobody
@renobodyrenobody 4 жыл бұрын
As always, thanks a lot for your video. I guess the 8Go of RAM are not specifically for end user in the GUI. Some interesting tests should be with Grafana, Postgresql, a website app and some code running in the background, multiplicating the request from the clients across the web. It should be interesting to see the load and how the Rasp is able to manage it.
@PhoticSneezeOne
@PhoticSneezeOne 4 жыл бұрын
ETAPRIMETIME !!!!
@1anre
@1anre 3 жыл бұрын
This was an informative guide, would want to see a starter kit guide on accesories you can get to manage heat & get you up & ready to have in your go-bag while you move around as a tech professional.
@SuperSZ
@SuperSZ 4 жыл бұрын
Dammmmn that poor Pi being used 110% with all that stuff at the same time the Pi be like *YAMETE KUDASAI ಥ_ಥ*
@zenobikraweznick
@zenobikraweznick 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review! Wchich microsd card did you use ?
@NewAgeDIY
@NewAgeDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Micro Centre staff: “ I sent ETA Prime a demo Raspberry Pi 4 8GB model after the KZbin video is out we should see lots of sales!!! Over at Micro centre: A Week goes by and everyone's buying 2GB models I wondering why?
@lichi_the_man
@lichi_the_man 4 жыл бұрын
You are a boss. Thank from Argentina
@youkesh2443
@youkesh2443 4 жыл бұрын
I know near to nothing abt raspberry pi but when he opened GIMP and it loaded that fast i was like 🤯
@DataSpook
@DataSpook 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! glad I saw this. I had the 8Gb version in my cart yesterday and held off for one more day. So yea, I may noy have a use for this yet.
@kendiacono1570
@kendiacono1570 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I feel it definitely is worth getting the 8gb model over the 2 or 4 GB versions especially for emulation. I seem to recall the RPI 3b+ was not fully supported at the start when it came to utilization of the Ram. I would be more thinking that within the next 3 months there will be a huge update on the emulation scene and it will be fully supported utilizing most if not all the Ram.!!
@PaeTian
@PaeTian 4 жыл бұрын
With 8GB of ram it could be possible to load the os complete in the ram and then having a super fast system isn't it? No need for blocking one usb port with an ssd.
@johnsimon8457
@johnsimon8457 4 жыл бұрын
I think this might be for kiosks that have to loop a bunch of 4K videos where the SD card isn’t fast enough so it’s all precached
@rednassie1101
@rednassie1101 4 жыл бұрын
You _could_ make an RPI NAS that caches the incoming files to a RAMdisk of 4GB, then writes it to a slower disk after the files have been transported.
@PlutoisaPlanet
@PlutoisaPlanet 4 жыл бұрын
Rednassie It’s like a capacitor for HDs!
@jackssrv
@jackssrv 4 жыл бұрын
You could just read "man ext4" and set commit=30 in the nas drive mount options and let Linux handle it, Or use FreeBSD and use ZFS filesystem
@omnivorace
@omnivorace 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks. But what about the temperature, is it warmer ? Thanks again.
@supergoofy123
@supergoofy123 4 жыл бұрын
An 8-core (A72 or better) pi with 8GB RAM and better gpu, could make the ultimate small pc.
@ilaserbia
@ilaserbia 4 жыл бұрын
Well if they are upgrading the CPU, then why not use the new A76 or A77 cores?
@techman5852
@techman5852 4 жыл бұрын
ILA price
@monkeymanstones1
@monkeymanstones1 4 жыл бұрын
If only the Gizmosphere Gizmo 2 had been available with a quad core CPU and a minimum of 2GB (as they had originally stated it would include) of RAM (both of which I bought with them [I have 3 Gizmo 2's. 1 is my primary daily driver, the other my 3D print controller and the 3rd my car video camera system] and I would have my near ultimate SBC. In the meantime I've run my standard 2 core, 1GB DDR3 RAM Gizmo 2, Raspberry Pi B+, Raspberry Pi 2 B and Asus Tinkerboard original for much of my needs. But remote control and visibility of the many 3D printers could make such an 8GB RAM board sensible.
@ladic
@ladic 4 жыл бұрын
Is the 8gb better for retro gaming?
@nathanddrews
@nathanddrews 4 жыл бұрын
If they could shrink down a 10900K and 2080Ti to the size of a Pi and sell it for $50, that would be even better! /s The Pi 4 is really great in theory, but the slow progress on its video encode/decode and other GPU-driver development is what really hurts it from excelling.
@FalconWing1813
@FalconWing1813 4 жыл бұрын
Would this OS run Google doc, Google class room? Wanted to know b/c this would be a fun project for me and my son to build this as a computer for him . Since the virus he has had alot of his school work online . Thanks for the help
@The_Broyi
@The_Broyi 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, raspbian and raspberrypi OS let's you use Google Chromium or Firefox, and you wouldn't have problems with classroom or Google docs, you can even install windows if you're more used to that
@FalconWing1813
@FalconWing1813 4 жыл бұрын
@@The_Broyi Thank you for your response! Very helpful
@donovan6320
@donovan6320 4 жыл бұрын
@@The_Broyi no you cant atm last I checked...
@The_Broyi
@The_Broyi 4 жыл бұрын
@@donovan6320 oh, I'm sorry, I saw that you could install windows in the raspberry pi 3 and thought that you could do it in this one too
@ShinobiShowdown
@ShinobiShowdown 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a microcenter in my state. I lived in PA for 10 years had them there. I had my brother from PA pick up a Pi 4 for me at Microcenter.
@danmanx2
@danmanx2 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I know how you feel. The nearest one from me is about 60-70 miles away in another state.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, none near here either. We have a best buy... it's genuinely depressing.
@jonny777bike
@jonny777bike 4 жыл бұрын
I love Microcenter. I’ve been to the one in the town that brought us the Commodore Amiga. I just wish we could get those stores in Florida. From the first pi to the pi 4 I always used active cooling.
@oepolish
@oepolish 4 жыл бұрын
Over clock this, and it'll be as powerful as my friends gaming computer he built in college just 12 years ago.
@Mark-jv3sb
@Mark-jv3sb 4 жыл бұрын
This thing is better then my 1500 pc i build in 2003
@PewPew_McPewster
@PewPew_McPewster 4 жыл бұрын
Well you still need a dedicated GPU I'd wager, but we're definitely looking at an actual PC for human beings to use!
@RetroActiveGM
@RetroActiveGM 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of processing, the processor on this thing is equivalent to an Intel processor from the mid-2000s. Hence it can run PSP and DS. There are experiments going on with the PS2 but they're way, way off at the moment.
@someoneelse7629
@someoneelse7629 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking at doing a project with a Pi, the harware list suggested a Pi2, so of course I got the Pi4 8G model for it... When the project is done and I tear it down, I still have a Pi that will be enough for the future (atleast a couple of years)
@keco185
@keco185 4 жыл бұрын
Now all they need is a faster CPU and m.2 support and I’ll be set
@josephtremblant2173
@josephtremblant2173 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they'll release a Pro version or a RPI 5 next year, but it won't be selling at $75(8 Gb version). More likely for $99 bucks. Keep the faith.
@LainK1978
@LainK1978 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephtremblant2173 I think it will eh a couple more years before a RPi5 comes out. By that time, there definitely will be a faster processor. And m.2 will probably be old enough to be cost effective to be put on it. The issue will be more about where to put it on the board.
@iflnr978
@iflnr978 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the great video!
@MrJozza65
@MrJozza65 4 жыл бұрын
Whilst I like the update to the Pi memory, I wish that they would sort out better drivers for the GPU . I bought a Pi4 on release, but for emulation and other graphic intensive operations it's stifled by the lack of GPU drivers, which is a shame.
@tylerblouin3513
@tylerblouin3513 4 жыл бұрын
optimization is the name of the game
@jeffjankiewicz5100
@jeffjankiewicz5100 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered this 2 days ago from canakit-starter max kit w/64gb card, already downloaded Retropie, and a few linux distros to try. Wanted to build a gamer for my Grandson, but it just might be my new media server if any game problems. How did the pi run gamecube? Good or bad? Guess i`ll find out. Will it run windows 10? Thanks for sharing ETA Prime.
@donovan6320
@donovan6320 4 жыл бұрын
Almost no games over ps1 I would say it will barely if at all run gamecube games also no it will not run 10, even if it did you cannot use most 64bit applications and all desktop apps will he sluggish.
@TacticalPower88
@TacticalPower88 4 жыл бұрын
The CPU will crap out long before the 8GB of RAM gets fully utilized.
@youtubeviolation8829
@youtubeviolation8829 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah now we need the pi pro with snapdragon 865
@DoomRater
@DoomRater 4 жыл бұрын
Modded Minecraft wants a word with you.
@asunavk69
@asunavk69 4 жыл бұрын
@@youtubeviolation8829 that will be like 400$ hahah, as some new "gaming pi"
@armeniancrusader301
@armeniancrusader301 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin violation I myself wish raspberry would Beginn buying apples A13 , A12X or A12Z (A12Z or A12X wich iPad Pros have) CPUs with Its GPUs and put them in raspberry pi Pro 4s With at least 8GB Ram (customizable or later upgradeable with Two DDR4 Sodimm slots up to 64GB at 3000 MHZ) A 2.5 Inch Drive slot up to Sata III 6GBPS (comes with nothing or 2TB SSHD at 7200RPM and 16GB Flash Booster for HDD) A NVME SSD Drive Slot up to PCIE Gen 4 (Comes with 120GB pre installed , customizable up to 4TB, Operating system is pre installed on NVME SSD , is choosable wether Raspbian 64 Bit , Windows 8.1/10 ) 64 Bit (pro or home edition ) or Linux) A SD card reader slot up to 2TB at 300MB/S Two USB 3.1 10 GBPS Two USB-C one for power and one for data transfer 10GBPS Two Thunderbolt 3 for external gpu and fast data transfer 40GBPS DVI , HDMI and VGA Up to 5K at 60 HZ or two 4K at 60HZ , or three 2K at 120HZ or four 1080P at 144HZ Price : around 500-700€ Size : Around 4 Raspberry pi 4s or 6 Raspberry Pi 4s The Raspberry 4 pro case (seperately available) CPU/GPU cooler (heatsink and Fan ) ca. 40-80MM Fan , two ca. 40-80MM Fans for the rest are included in it.
@yashveerthakur7265
@yashveerthakur7265 4 жыл бұрын
@@armeniancrusader301 that's why the pi is 75 dollars.
@keenanmccleary6782
@keenanmccleary6782 4 жыл бұрын
Would the additional RAM help emulation, in its current state, with retropie?
@namangupta86
@namangupta86 4 жыл бұрын
Fact if that there is a lot of optimization that are going to be done on 64bit version in the coming months. We might also see better GPU drivers for this. So, I beleive that Ram consumption should get optimised. On a more practical note. I would like to see how many Chrome tabs I can open on 4GB vs 8GB version. I won't include rendering or converting app in this mix as they are designed to use max cpu already and thus would defeat the purpose of actual usage senario. And yes I do have more then 100 tabs on Firefox in my desktop. And a lot of people usually have 30+ tabs in there daily drivers.. So, its not far fetched.
@Grape7461
@Grape7461 4 жыл бұрын
Why y'all not close tabs, like every time I wanna exit out of the browser I just close the tab. "Yes I need this tab leading to a photo of Luigi doing a T pose from 2018. And I'm going to keep it here for the rest of time"
@nishantchaudhari1398
@nishantchaudhari1398 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos
@twk1024
@twk1024 4 жыл бұрын
It looks great for my web server!
@MichaelSanAngelo
@MichaelSanAngelo 4 жыл бұрын
One use I see for the extra ram is for a small ZFS array as a NAS. Attach a couple usb3 hdds and use the ram as ARC.
@Real_The_Goof
@Real_The_Goof 4 жыл бұрын
There's no Micro Center anywhere near me. I'd have to travel over 100 miles to get to one..
@todddelozier8172
@todddelozier8172 4 жыл бұрын
There is always Amazon.
@williamrutter3619
@williamrutter3619 4 жыл бұрын
Even though it should all be the same, it would be pleasing to see that it is the case, there might be subtle differences, that might make it a better pi over the others of its type.
@deedd4401
@deedd4401 4 жыл бұрын
does it mean that the ram is configured in single channel mode ? that's sad .. same amount in 2x4gb would be a c ompletely different story
@d.r.1402
@d.r.1402 4 жыл бұрын
Probably as Im guessing the layout would have to change for 2 ram chips. Means also many aftermarket direct heatsink cases wouldn't fit as well or at all.
@CraigMullins1
@CraigMullins1 4 жыл бұрын
videos on setting up ramdisk?
@etutorshop
@etutorshop 4 жыл бұрын
I only wish that they had increased the core count to eight to make the 8GB model more attractive.
@cjlowe1650
@cjlowe1650 4 жыл бұрын
Microcenter in St Davids doesn't have it on the website
@hvskyline1368
@hvskyline1368 4 жыл бұрын
What about just watching 1080p 60fps videos on KZbin on it's own would it be able to handle that or would the CPU be the issue
@ETAPRIME
@ETAPRIME 4 жыл бұрын
CPU and GPU is still the issue the extra ram won’t help with this.
@hvskyline1368
@hvskyline1368 4 жыл бұрын
@@ETAPRIME damn I guess I'm gonna have to wait for further iterations
@kishananuraag
@kishananuraag 4 жыл бұрын
i was checking all my tabs for where the heck it's coming from!
@MiniRockerz4ever
@MiniRockerz4ever 4 жыл бұрын
youtube livestreams work well through KODI even on RPi 3B+
@scott1986
@scott1986 4 жыл бұрын
thank you ETA GRAZIE :)
@timekills
@timekills 4 жыл бұрын
The Blender "blenchmark" is what takes all the RAM. A normal benchmark isn't so bad, but the blenchmark...that's a killer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqG7c3yPq76neM0
@DoomRater
@DoomRater 4 жыл бұрын
I was listening at 1.5x and wanted to check my ears... He actually said Blenchmark, that's hilarious
@Lilithe
@Lilithe 4 жыл бұрын
He said it twice, which clued me into it being intentional.
@BadKarma714
@BadKarma714 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Garden Grove California just got a raspberry pi 4B I would like to know more about it
@jinyoungpark1102
@jinyoungpark1102 4 жыл бұрын
hmm, I have a raspberry pi 4 4gb model, it isn't slow,(I'm watching eta prime on this) and it has enough ram, so, if you have raspberry pi, pass and buy next raspberry pi.
@ronakpatel7293
@ronakpatel7293 4 жыл бұрын
How does the new power management affect the heat that the board creates
@fred3259
@fred3259 4 жыл бұрын
I hope some day add hardware acceleration for videos.
@cbrunhaver
@cbrunhaver 4 жыл бұрын
And get rid of the screen tearing. Their video driver isn’t in very good shape and severely limits the usefulness of desktop Linux
@scott8940
@scott8940 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on using Dual Video output with the new 8gb pi.
@hansoak3664
@hansoak3664 4 жыл бұрын
The multiple tabs in a browser convinced me I need the 8GB model. lol Thanks for the video.
@joshuahaley5767
@joshuahaley5767 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video and helpfull, in a future video can you exsplain why it would be better for a Nas or home server also would it make plex able to transcode?
@mr_tea753
@mr_tea753 4 жыл бұрын
That’s great I can upgrade my MC server where my friends and I play
@manuelsen3180
@manuelsen3180 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@chillin_chicken
@chillin_chicken 4 жыл бұрын
I personally disagree with your recommendation of the 8GB version for new pi owners. As you said in your video, 99% of people won't use it... so why spend the extra money?
@mikeymaiku
@mikeymaiku 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of people want top tier of any model. Wether they use the product to the full potential or not
@fporcelli2009
@fporcelli2009 4 жыл бұрын
Well, maybe someone cares about the redesigned power delivery to have more power for the external devices... Also we have seen this on pcs already: 64bit version of the programs takes more RAM, 2gb will struggle soon. Furthermore when overclocked the 4gb might become the bottleneck of the desktop experience. My question is: what do you do to max out ram in your server? I run many things on my rpi2 and is at only 300-400mb of ram usage
@donovan6320
@donovan6320 4 жыл бұрын
@@fporcelli2009 the SD card will be the bottleneck first
@sensorequipment8283
@sensorequipment8283 4 жыл бұрын
Better overclocker, can handle higher power. 4GB model may reboot with all 4 vcore load. The 8GB pi has 50% higher PMIC frequency, thus delivering more amperage. The added memory can be used for some server, Minecraft etc.
@roninviking
@roninviking 3 жыл бұрын
been watching you for a while now, i didnt know you was so cruel keep up the great work captain
@LuciferGloria
@LuciferGloria 4 жыл бұрын
ETA prime: tries to fill 8GB RAM Chrome : hold my tabs
@Avm371998
@Avm371998 4 жыл бұрын
Could you take off those big usb ports to make the device fit in a handheld case.
@KaraokeDuov2
@KaraokeDuov2 4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha. He said "blench mark."
@VideoWholesale
@VideoWholesale 3 жыл бұрын
Would there be an advantage when using Retropie and emulation in general?
@jonglass
@jonglass 4 жыл бұрын
If I open Chrome with a few Google sites open (specifically gmail google docs and youtube), together with VS Code and another app, I am pushing the RAM and cache on my 4GB Raspi 4, and take a performance hit. I think that the 8GB model will work better for me, but I'll have to wait. I've only had my 4B model a couple months.
@pqrstzxerty1296
@pqrstzxerty1296 4 жыл бұрын
HTML5 Browers are all hungry these days.
@IC4N7C
@IC4N7C 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’d love to see how thesee
@IC4N7C
@IC4N7C 4 жыл бұрын
THESE do with cloud gaming. I’m thinking of building a handheld for this purpose.
@williamrutter3619
@williamrutter3619 4 жыл бұрын
I have had two raspberry pi 4 die, with hdmi issues, I managed to send one back, it would have Hurt more at this price, this is an old pi, even though it's much more powerful than the pi3, it only does tasks slightly better, if you need a pi 4, the 2gb model is a bargain, but a new pi or revised pi should be round the corner some time soon, I will be happy to pick up that in its 8 GB variation, hopefully it will be with working GPU drivers or even a improved GPU.
@ry_man
@ry_man 4 жыл бұрын
Please build and test a NAS for streaming video to another device on the same network! Super interested in getting one if it can handle encoding!
@realityengine
@realityengine 4 жыл бұрын
I’d rather see tests with a media server like Plex
@koryk9354
@koryk9354 4 жыл бұрын
Or Docker!
@k9man163
@k9man163 4 жыл бұрын
When are they going to Integrate a sata controller into a model
@jackssrv
@jackssrv 4 жыл бұрын
not enough PCie channels. just use usb 3 to sata3 bridge, same performance as a 1x slot sata board on pcie2.0
@batlin
@batlin 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you called OpenShot "OneShot" three out of three times...
@IAmMisterD
@IAmMisterD 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I'm uselessly replying to your comment
@batlin
@batlin 3 жыл бұрын
@@IAmMisterD hello!
@cutflow2
@cutflow2 3 жыл бұрын
is this the Raspbian version with or without the extra software/apps?
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