Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W vs other Raspberry Pi Zeros [benchmarks]

[@EsotericArctos]

I heard the Pi foundation tried to get 1GB on the Zero 2 W but was not able to quite get there. It is a big advantage moving to ARMv7 processor though as a lot of projects struggle to keep compatibility with the ARMv6 Archtiecture. The Zero 2 W basically is a cut down Raspberry Pi 3 from my understanding as it uses the same processor. The original Pi 3 was 2.4GHz only. I think 3B introduced 5GHz

[@notenoughtech]

Long time ago I had a talk with Eben about the Zero series being hard to iterate due to size constraints of the board. Knowing that I was quite surprised we ended up with a new Zero with the same form factor

[@EsotericArctos]

@@notenoughtech Agreed. It was pretty great to see them move it to an Arm7 processor. It does make the Zero 2 a lot more versatile and able to run more current code. It was really good to see it come in the same form factor for sure

[@JayVBear45]

Great comparative video. Even though I've built my own PC systems for almost 30 years now, I'm still a noob when it comes to technical specs (I've described building your own PC as Lego for adults in that you basically just snap parts together following "kit" directions). I appreciate computer tech engineers, builders and detail specialists who can explain the various aspects in easier to comprehend terms with as minimal use of jargon/geek-speak as possible. With Raspberry Pi it gets even more elegant, accessible and simpler. I have an 8 gig Pi 4 and a Pi 400 and find them endlessly fascinating. Thank you.

[@notenoughtech]

Pleasure is mine. I'm yet to get the 400 one :) the only pi I don't own just yet

[@nikobellic570]

Good review! Still amazes me what they fit into a tiny form factor and price.

[@notenoughtech]

Right? These will be hard to get hands on I think as they do offer good value

[@LinuxLoader1287]

Great video mate very much appreciated 👌

[@SpartanDiab]

Power usage is good info thank you!

[@notenoughtech]

I'm glad you found it useful!

[@ECHOSIDE56301]

Excellent video. You measured precisely the same things I would have measured.

[@notenoughtech]

I'm happy you found it useful

[@miden476]

best test yet tnx men

[@ApertureApex]

Ah yes! Just in time! (right before bed). Thank you for the timely upload Mat 😁

[@notenoughtech]

And I can call the bed time too. That time change screwed up my schedule :)

[@abdullahyousef3596]

Thank you for this amazing review, but I was wondering what is the name of the power supply you have used in 6:23

[@notenoughtech]

I guess you mean this one: notenoughtech.com/review/tools/miniware-mdp-xp/

[@abdullahyousef3596]

@@notenoughtech yes this is it, thank you, do you know where I can buy it?

[@notenoughtech]

Links in the article

[@abdullahyousef3596]

@@notenoughtech Thank you so much.

[@coreyfro]

Can you run and get current draw of 2W with one threaded benchmark to see if it is more efficient than the 1W with similar load?

[@notenoughtech]

In a single core benchmark, you will end up with 2 time shorter benchmark time over Zero W, so you will be more efficient as long as you can accommodate the increased current requirement. Unless you are running constant load, for unlimited time, then Zero2W would be a better option in that circumstances.

[@coreyfro]

@@notenoughtech understood, but this would be useful data. Peak load of two devices is meaningless when performance isn't pairity

[@malaypalash7251]

Hi, Great video, can you suggest if the Zero w 2 is powerful enough to run magicmirror software or be a digital photo frame?

[@notenoughtech]

It will be more than enough to handle that. Performance wise it's close to RaspberryPi 3

[@malaypalash7251]

@@notenoughtech Great thanks! i hope it turns out good

[@notenoughtech]

You will be happy. I have 4 of them now :)

[@johndripper]

can it record at 720p @60fps or higher? using obs?

[@notenoughtech]

Not something I have tested yet

[@johndripper]

@@notenoughtech pls test it thanks

[@512mb4]

Using obs? I tried obs on pi 3b+(boot from microsd, gpu 120mb) + hdmi capture dongle + capture 720p , the fps is lower than 30.. , on this 512mb ram pi zero2 , after allocating around 120mb or more ram to gpu for obs i think it will do worse for sure, but I don't have it to try.

[@johndripper]

@@512mb4 thats too bad so better to use rpi 4 with atleast 4gb ram i guess

[@puntergaming2455]

We'll , a question still exists in my mind ' can we desolder the ram chip of rasphberry pi 0w ( 512 mb of sd ram ) with 8 Gb ram chip of rasphberry pi 4 model B? '

[@Lunolux]

Nice video, thx

[@haziqsembilanlima]

tbh I had a hard time finding usecase for Pi Zero, though it works great to turn your wired printer into a wireless one. I tested with tinylinux though as it has low memory footprint and boots really fast. I guess they'll bring bcm2711 on Zero once the cost gets cheap. lowest density lpddr4x should be bigger than ddr2

[@andreamitchell4758]

You mean for octoprint? I heard it could work for octoprint without a camera but that even without a camera it is still not recommended for octoprint and that a R pi 3 model b is the lowest you should use I wonder if the new pi zero w 2 will work well for octoprint with or without a camera

[@notenoughtech]

That's the subject I'm working on already

[@haziqsembilanlima]

@@andreamitchell4758 oh, not octoprint but CUPS. the idea is to let Pi Zero broadcast itself as a host with wired-only printer, essentially turning your old but gold printers into a wireless for household/office use. I did that with tinylinux to conserve memory. extra tinylinux packages were wireless and cups (afaik hplip package was included too, forgot). works nice but scrapped midway as scanner functionality isn't part of CUPS. maybe after CUPS successor reaches stability (I heard it has scanner support) I'll resume. I haven't figured out the best way to power the Pi to reduce clutter. maybe a PoE hat will do the trick but I'm not sure if it gives networking access but that's only ideal if the printer is static and sit close to router/switch

[@magnumopus9058]

Can you compare pi 3b to pi zero 2w?

[@notenoughtech]

Little tight on time if I'm honest and the only 3B I have is running my nas right now v)

[@magnumopus9058]

@@notenoughtech I see. No worries, anytime you have time. Keep it up

[@nubletten]

Ok i sub now, add timestamps later ;) didnt see there was timestamps in describtion. those can be added on the timeline in the video. Oh also, it would be kool if you did wireless tests at various real life scenario distances.

[@notenoughtech]

I have added leading zeros to the timestamps... I hope they show up now! WiFi tests can be tricky as they depend on more than just the end device.

[@ronm6585]

Thank you Mat.

[@mkumar04]

thanks ,i want to explore rasberry pi world , and i was going to purchase zero w, but after watching your video ,im going to get zero w 2 thanks

[@notenoughtech]

You will have a much better use of the 2. Original zeros are great for low power projects tho

[@mkumar04]

@@notenoughtech thanks , but can 2w run openmediavault efficiently??

[@Omarqp]

Thanks a lot!

[@notenoughtech]

Pleasure is mine

[@Simcore999]

👍

[@chesshooligan1282]

A milliamp is not a unit of power.

[@notenoughtech]

I'm pretty sure the viewers can figure out the voltage it runs on and complete the calculation

[@chesshooligan1282]

@@notenoughtech I'm sure most of them can, but a true power figure would save us the hassle of figuring out whether this is a 3.3 V or a 5 V device.

[@notenoughtech]

Hint: it's USB powered.

[@chesshooligan1282]

@@notenoughtech From Wikipedia: USB Power Delivery uses one of CC1, CC2 pins for power negotiation between source device and sink device, UP TO 20 V [my emphasis] at 5 A [no mention of minimum voltage]. Have you got a chip on your shoulder today?

[@notenoughtech]

Another hint: USB micro connector on the board. Virtually impossible to connect anything else but 5V on Zero board. Nitpick all you want, theorise more and copy and paste the wiki at will and yet the result is 5V 😂😂😂

[@whkee]

Pi0 $5 Pi0W $10 Pi02W $15

[@notenoughtech]

Pi03W $20? :D

[@botyironcastle]

lol where

[@bussi7859]

You talk too much and do too little, change your output

[@EsotericArctos]

Is that really all you can say??? Don't watch it if you dont like it

[@notenoughtech]

There is a written version of the video in the article. For people who comment too much and read too little

[@jamiesucks7994]

@@notenoughtech OH

[@kevinjohansson3923]

@@notenoughtech 😂😘