Forged 4.6L 2V Engine Build Price Breakdown

The #1 asked question I receive is how much did we spend to build a forged long block for the Turbo'd New Edge Mustang? In today's video, I break it down part by part and go over how much we spent and.... it was A LOT OF MONEY! Most of the parts we purchased were through Cody Queensberry, owner of StraightLineSolutions.
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[@MustangFord]

10K build is expensive but this car can take on modern cars that cost much more than 10K, and its paid off.... to me , that's a win on top of a win. Awesome build for sure

[@RatchetWrenches]

Exactly! Always been a fan of older cars that are faster then new ones

[@Booty482]

Yea my build is about the same cost but that’s parts and labor included

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

Lots of v8 builds with a good forged setup end up being close to 10k

[@midnight347]

It can make as much or more than any of the newer coyotes and its in a much lighter car and it is still alot less all in than buying a newer coyote and then doing a big power build on that. Everyone always says oh you gotta do more mods on the old cars yea but they coat way less money so you have less into it when it's all said and done and have equal or better results and many people prefer the older cars me included.

[@midnight347]

​@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts a forged ls would be every bit as much even tho everyone says they're so "cheap" which is a bunch of nonsense lol.

[@matthewvanderfin3361]

10k is about what I expected, been looking and thinking about what I want to do with my own 2v.

[@RatchetWrenches]

Yep I've heard some feedback that $10k isn't bad but obviously you can do it cheaper. I'm just excited now I don't have to worry about the bottom end anymore

[@Jsta2v_racing]

Bring it down to Texas some time. Can show u my turbo 2v. These motors can make power and really isn’t crazy to do. People just don’t give them a chance. 1000+ here. Keep it up

[@RatchetWrenches]

I've seen videos of yours and it's nasty! Would love to come down to Texas. They really don't but they have the potential for it! 🤘🏽

[@Jsta2v_racing]

@@RatchetWrenches come down for when they do the LMR cruise in

[@GrubbingRust]

Are you on stock bottom end or did you go forged? I’m just asking because I’m buying a 2v soon and wondering how hard I can push it before it explodes

[@Jsta2v_racing]

@@GrubbingRust it’s a built motor. Good rods and pistons. Cobra crank. ARP hardware. These motors can make 1000+. U have to do alittle work to them but it isn’t some voodoo magic either

[@centraltexasfoxbodies]

I plan to build an engine for my 2v fox... un decided on which forced induction I'm going with. I'm really considering a kenne bell on top of trick flow heads... It all adds up, I'm like 15k into my 4.6 swap fox but that's with a holley terminator x and holley digital dash, lots of aftermarket suspension, built rear axle and so on. And that's just parts, I'll done all the labor myself in my driveway. It made the 600 mile round trip to lmr cruise in for 2023 and got 21 mpg running 75-80 on i35 with 3.73 gears she's humming at 2400 rpm

[@mrmoss149]

I know the price point was difficult, but, as you yourself stated, if you want to play.... But that build is awesome. I know the wait was torture but can't wait to see what you do from here on. Thank you for posting

[@RatchetWrenches]

Thank you! Yeah it's all top of the line brand new parts and I couldn't be happier how it turned out. Can't wait to turn it up!

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

Its crazy how modular motors were a big force to contend with in the 2000s and now people have amnesia or are too young to remember lol. Thats exactly why i went boosted mod motor instead of coyote/ls everything

[@RatchetWrenches]

Yeah seriously times have changed drastically! I still love the 2v and 4v engines and would much rather build one instead of doing the overdone coyote builds like you said. They just sound better too IMO

[@midnight347]

They're too young to remember many times and they just repeat what others say with no first hand knowledge.

[@midnight347]

Boosted mod motors can put in work ecsp for the money spent. Most newer coyote cars plus mods cost way more than one of these properly built with forced induction and everything needed to make big reliable power. What I think is funny is how many ppl think ol 4.6 can't do more than 400 wheel like no matter what. Ppl don't even understand what a built short block is anymor

[@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts]

@midnight347 short blocks are getting harder and harder to find for these cars. Lots of them are on backorder, likely due to a shortage of suitable cores. If mine ever leaves the chat, I'll have to go coyote route :(

[@jeffreyabbey9592]

Great build. Great breakdown

[@alexarellano9591]

Recently just got a 4.6 gt just like yours and trying to figure out what to buy and where to start. The parts and specific pricing along with your other videos really help out a lot. Thank you 🙏!

[@RatchetWrenches]

That's awesome! Auto or manual? And it really depends on your goals and budget but it's a great platform to learn on and have fun with! Glad to help out!

[@stevenkleinhenz1017]

Great build! Still driving my 2v since 2004 and when it goes I’ll just do whatever you did!

[@RatchetWrenches]

Thanks! And wow that's awesome it's still going strong

[@TheTyyohe]

I wanted to build a 347, and i figured I'd have at least 6k in just the engine. That was a sobering moment and made me re-evaluate what engine to run in my fox.

[@RatchetWrenches]

Yeah this hobby / sport isn't cheap! Definitely gotta pay to play if you want something built right and to handle high HP

[@TheTyyohe]

@@RatchetWrenches yea, definitely.

[@hermanrogers1325]

This is a very good deal my 04 mustang GT automatic dark shadow gray with 193,000 miles is going to need a replacement engine and to buy a long block and have it put in cost a little more so when the engine goes bad I think I will build it or look for a 5.0 maybe gen 1 or 2 swap if I keep the car

[@RatchetWrenches]

Either option would be a good one! I personally love how the 2v sounds that's why I went with building it and also the coyote swap is very overdone IMO

[@Chris-Rife]

I like you kept 2v but me liking it doesn't matter. I know $10,000 is a lot and I tell guys all the time, tranny + built 2v that can handle 600wheel is going to run you about $15,000 if you can't do the work yourself. It's why most guys just fine used f150 coyote with 6r80 and swap it and put boost on it, nothing wrong with 2v it's just coyote can be the cheaper route with less hassle. Plus, you get the best of both worlds you get a 99-04 body with a coyote engine.

[@RatchetWrenches]

I agree yeah. I love the 2v platform and it's always an underdog but can put out when you have it built correctly. Coyote swaps are definitely a better bang for your buck being that you'll have a much better starting point NA and holding power wise. I've also always preferred how a 2v sounds over the coyote but that's just me

[@KenMileyJr]

nothing wrong with a Terminator crank. Actually, it's the same crank from 96 to 04 Cobras, all forged kellogg cranks that can easily handle 4 digit power. Usually can be had in good shape for around 500 bucks.

[@KenMileyJr]

Oh, and the 03/04 Mach 1's with manual trans had the forged cranks as well.

[@RatchetWrenches]

No doubt! I just wanted to play it totally safe but I definitely could've gotten away with using the Kellogg!

[@ichigonubetube]

Honestly most of the stock cranks can run 600-700 hp. Termi crank especially. Alot of people over build these days. I wanna build my 3v, a 9 thread 4v head swap, cams, forged pistons (still deciding the brand, looking to go budget), gonna do boss rods, stock crank, twin turbo. All ARP hardware.

[@Jsta2v_racing]

The cobra crank would have been fine. They are capable of making 1000+. I am prove of that. Mine 1000+ with a turbo 2v

[@Sleeper_Solutions]

It’s true the Kellogg is great. I recommended him to get a Manley because after 20 years it’s hard to find a Kellogg that doesn’t need a bunch of extra work. I know this because I had trouble sourcing one for just myself

[@MrLightning54]

Awesome build! You'll be safe on nearly anything you can throw at it now! That broken top edge of the piston you went through probably had a lot more to do with tight OEM piston ring end gap than non-forged bottom end components. Either way, I hope she holds up making tons of power for a really long time now! You may already know of him, but Andrew Lavender comes to mind for really getting alot from these 2V set-ups if you haven't watched his videos, check them out.

[@RatchetWrenches]

Thank you! And absolutely the bottom end is STOUT finally! Yeah the ring gaps aren't meant for mid 400 HP and TQ hahaha. But absolutely I know him I used to watch him all the time. He was one of the best when it came to 2v content on YT

[@MrLightning54]

@@RatchetWrenches I've been considering a 96-04 manual Mustang GT project myself, as your build is proving to be very, very cool. I'd like to have similar stuff, but possibly tune it myself using a Holley XFI deal, and incorporating a flex fuel sensor system if possible. Always dreaming, lol. Also, since you already know of Andrew Lavender, Richard Holdener is another one who has alot of experience with these older engines / power adders etc. In case you haven't checked him out. The best of luck moving forward on your car!

[@commonmockery1074]

I could’ve spent less getting a stroker kit for my Grand Marquis. Now I wish I did that.

[@terryhodges5850]

Had a terminator A few years ago drove it for five years regularly put about 30,000 miles on it and sold it $6000 more than I paid for it 💥 those mustangs hold value

[@RatchetWrenches]

That's insane. Yeah the terminators hold value very very well and about a year or 2 ago was the absolute best time to sell one they were going for so much money. They've come down a bit in value now I believe

[@CX2003GT]

missed yall man!

[@RatchetWrenches]

Aye I'm back! Especially once this weather gets nicer

[@teelazysocold412]

Whats the plan with your high compression issue? 🤔 Id be hurt driving that thing around knowing I can't hit boost without hurting the fresh motor I just built. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@RatchetWrenches]

Haha you're relentless man

[@teelazysocold412]

​​@@RatchetWrenches lol 😂 but na all bs aside.. Honestly how much boost are you currently running with 93 octane? 🤔

[@midnight347]

I would just run better fuel and make way more power safely. At the very minimum 93/boostane which is 100 octane.

[@fordtechlife]

Money well spent Fords aren't Cheap 🔧🚗🐎🔥👊💪🇺🇸

[@RatchetWrenches]

Hell yea! And no they aren't!

[@crAzyy307]

Don’t do fender exit exhaust unless you’re planning on making it a full time drag car. If you plan on still driving it on the street regularly just do a straight pipe or put some Borla Atak mufflers on it.

[@RatchetWrenches]

Why are you against fender / bumper exit? From my research straight pipe is too raspy and somewhat similar to fender / bumper exit. Borla ATAK would be awesome but I'd rather not spend $1200 on a catback that has slightly different mufflers / resonators then what I have now

[@midnight347]

​@RatchetWrenches straight pipe sounds badass with turbo setup the turbo itself acts as a muffler. I'd at least run it back and dump it under the axle. Bumper exist is good because it's less weight better response so it's all in what you want I suppose. .

[@michaelcanterbury8845]

im kinda at a crossroads with my car. i have a 04 mach 1 with a eaton swap on stock block. i dont know if i should build my block an boost it. or if i should sell the setup and coyote swap. for 10 for a build i could just buy a crate motor. its def a tough decision.

[@RatchetWrenches]

@@michaelcanterbury8845 that’s definitely a tough decision for sure. They both have their own pros and cons but I feel like you can’t go wrong with either choice! I personally love the built 2v I’ve always preferred the sound of this engine over a coyote

[@TeksTherapy]

LFGO⚡⚡

[@hotrodlincoln7186]

Quick question 🤔 why didn't you just but a trickflow kit that comes with the heads cams and everything

[@RatchetWrenches]

I wanted custom spec cams from Todd Warren and wanna push the PI heads to see how well they can perform. Might do trick flow down the line but at this time I didn't see the need to spend all the extra money

[@hotrodlincoln7186]

@RatchetWrenches true. Hey, someone on reddit was telling me that a 5.0 stroker kit combined with the trickflow kit wouldn't be reliable. Any reason you think that I might be?

[@67cudaksa34]

nice build. if you think that was expensive. yake a look at an egine with less hp for a nhra stock elimination car. heads can be 5k on the cheap end

[@RatchetWrenches]

Thanks and oh I could only imagine for that type of competition racing how expensive the builds are for even less HP haha.

[@jojogun1957]

I was wondering how the Modmax short block builds are. They have a short block rated for 1,200hp and even withe upgrades on the pistons,crank and hardware it comes in around 5500.

[@RatchetWrenches]

I honestly haven't heard much about Modmax. If you have Facebook I'd search it or ask about it in specific groups. There are some groups strictly designated to discuss 2v/3v/4v engines and there are some smart people in there.

[@calvinmauney5669]

Similar price built on my 2v for 1000hp just cant decid if im going twins or single turbo

[@RatchetWrenches]

I feel like I've heard and read that twin turbo set ups are better for hitting that 1000HP mark but obviously a big enough single can do it too

[@midnight347]

I'd do twins if it's a street car better response. If it isn't a straight race car don't mod it like one always take into account response and overall power curve this is very important on street cars imo.

[@midnight347]

​@RatchetWrenches a big single can make more power but the reaponse won't be as good as twins which can easily make that and more with better response and less lag.

[@JDragoon-001]

Could a 97 thunderbird do this build too?

[@RatchetWrenches]

I honestly have no idea I'm sorry

[@JDragoon-001]

@@RatchetWrenches Damm figured I'd ask thanks though

[@NickKnight333]

Where did you purchase your chin spoiler?

[@RatchetWrenches]

Magicdrift

[@PAFORM350]

How many miles were on the block when it broke?

[@RatchetWrenches]

I think 112,000

[@bengordon7635]

seen an awesome 2011 mustang gt on face book market place with a rebuilt title .. runs perfectly for $4800 and all kinds between 7 and 8k hmmm the swap is not worth it anymore

[@RatchetWrenches]

Everyone's got their own opinion. I personally like the sound of a 2v way more than the 5.0's. And with a built bottom end I'm capable of making 1000whp if I wanted to with the right supporting mods. And my title isn't rebuilt haha

[@bullitt813]

Nice build! What fuel components do you have or are you going with? I'm assuming return style?

[@RatchetWrenches]

Thanks! And yeah I'm running Fore's L4 Dual Pump Return Style system it's really good quality and can't wait to see how it performs when pushing the car to its limits

[@Singhzgarage]

What wheels? My 3v had same wheels but i could never figure out the name

[@RatchetWrenches]

FR500's bought them off American Muscle years ago

[@Luigi13333]

What kinda Brembos do you have on the car?

[@RatchetWrenches]

Cadillac ATS Brembo's

[@ztwntyn8]

How much was it? I lost focus. Need a total at the end. Cool build. Not taking anything from it. 👊🏻

[@RatchetWrenches]

There's a total at the end

[@Jsmith9619]

What a dumb comment and question. Can take the time to write a comment but can't actually watch the video to see the damn total? This is what is wrong with people anymore. No attention span, ignorant, rather have someone tell them than actually find out anything. Goes deeper than this video obviously

[@Rhills]

What happened to the s3 content?

[@RatchetWrenches]

Austin left the channel and his car has been in the shop for weeks

[@keithkeith7697]

Could have just got a aluminator

[@divergxnt364]

Damn that is expensive lol. How much boost are you putting down tho? 💯

[@RatchetWrenches]

It definitely was! And once I get the E-85 tune most likely will make 500 hp with ease on around 6-8lbs if I were to guess

[@divergxnt364]

Fr! That's not counting the turbo & miscellaneous parts to make everything work lol. 😂 But E is definitely the way to go! How much boost are you currently running on pump gas? 🤔

[@RatchetWrenches]

@divergxnt364 oh yeah its well into the 10's of thousands when you count that and the turbo kit. But I'm not sure how much currently probably just a couple lbs. I just cruise it until I'm ready for E-85 tune

[@teelazysocold412]

​​@@RatchetWrenches what's the closest place with e85 from your location? Or It might be better to order a 55 gallon drum of e85 Idk. 🤔💯

[@teelazysocold412]

​@@RatchetWrenches or you can try the snow performance methanol injection kit as well. That would be a good video for content as well 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@MrAlternation]

11:37

[@Jsmith9619]

Dude your shoes all over your bumper.

[@RatchetWrenches]

Not really, maybe the front $60 lip a little bit

[@barryhallsack8852]

10k is normal for a street engine. Go look at a proline 481x 😂.

[@RatchetWrenches]

Dang yeah okay $10k is cheap hahah

[@RealLyfeTV365]

Better than buying a Lamborghini

[@RatchetWrenches]

Idk about better but definitely cheaper 😂 depends what you're into!

[@brucefozman3082]

Race car!!!

[@RatchetWrenches]

Hell yeah!

[@glenclifton4563]

Look at blueprint motors. For a 436 hp sbc its about $7000. Dressed. Thars with core. Youve put the best in yours and the blueprint is not all the best. You did good!!

[@RatchetWrenches]

Very true then thank you! Yeah I definitely didn't wanna cheap out on parts and the build this go around so I went all out besides head work but I didn't need to break the bank on that. Should be a fun season

[@TheFogLakeshore]

THat's not that much for what you got.

[@TheManic.5-OH]

With an opening like that? Screw this channel 🤣

[@RatchetWrenches]

The video would be 5 seconds long if I structured it like how you want it

[@garrittpwl]

Sorry your attention span is trash from youtube shorts and tiktok

[@Thelategreatjohnnybratton]

Great engine build. Impressive Big engine Heavy car Mini brakes Not a balanced car

[@RatchetWrenches]

Mini brakes? They are not

[@skyradloff]

he got big ol brembos on that unit brother these cars arent very heavy either

[@NewEdgeDesigns]

Mini brain!!😂😂

[@Sleeper_Solutions]

Hold up dawg 284ci is a big engine? 3200lbs is heavy for a street car? 4 piston brembos up front with 13” rotor is small brakes? What crack you smoking

[@maciasd303837]

@kidgavilan700 has probably never built shit in his life lol

[@mikestang679]

WORTH IT, in the LONG RUN..........

[@RatchetWrenches]

Exactly

[@Street75-d2c]

Confused. I have a 2valve I've built and owned 11 years I used to beat everything. 400hp na. Original 2valve 4.6. Had nitrous. Moser axles 31 spline carrier everything! Old street racer tricks included. But I'm 400hp. With 410 gear. Tall fat mickeys on mine. Why do u have that hp.and cost..and u have no wheel tire package. I just spun my fully built 5th gen camaro off the road totalling it. I thought nittos at 300 a piece was enough. U need a tire plus it'd look better. Nothing looks good on these but BBK or a fat back skinny front set up

[@RatchetWrenches]

This cost was to build the long block that's capable of turning it up to 1000 RWHP. It's making well over 400HP now. And the tire look is all preference.