I forgot physical MC. Meh, he doesn't matter anyway. 2/10. why do I always forget the MC in these videos?!?
@sathoon59733 ай бұрын
Qingque is great as newb's first hyper carry, and I'm grateful she exists (even after I pulled Firefly as my 1st limited banner)
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
For sure, she's great. Just not the best. The RNG in her kit is also a huge bruh moment sometimes.
@sathoon59733 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeine She clutches her enhanced basic more times than she whiffs for me. But yeah the chance of her burning 4 skill points is low, but not zero 😩
@ossmboy79143 ай бұрын
Wow, Banger ratings. Everyone is on point. Except one, DHIL. He is pretty good for me. Still carrying me in 2 out of 3 endgames. I think he is being hated unnecessarily. If it was jingliu's playstyle everyone would have taken it easy their. Waifu over meta bruh.
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Well Jingliu does dish out bigger and more efficient damage than DHIL. He requires 3 skill points while Jingliu requires 0. He is still better than most, but jingliu is even better.
@naturwissenschaften-f2u3 ай бұрын
For sure, he's really good, but I'd still use Jingliu over him ngl.
@ThatGuy-nc8nf3 ай бұрын
I planned back then to pull for DHIL for my imaginary element coverage, but ever since the entire break meta was spawned because of HMC, I don't think I'll ever get out of the Firefly-HMC-RM-Sustain sauce.
@dylikestories3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Ppl hate on him unnecessarily when he’s not that hard to play. If you build supports with enough speed you basically get his damage every time he goes. Can’t always do that with Jingliu.
@Name167773 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeinelast time i checked the list was acheron>firefly>boothill=dhil>jingliu>seele>dr ratio>blade not accounting for kafka as she is team dependent and pf specialists your list is way off than what i know
@necasa49192 ай бұрын
Acheron is easily among the best, along with upcoming character Feixiao seeing the current leaks. She can brute force any content without needing to rely on any external conditions outside of her stacking mechanic, which is easy to work around. She has easily carried me through all endgame modes full stars for a long while, although Firefly still has the upper hand on AS, as it heavily relies on breaking.
@dylikestories3 ай бұрын
Great video! All the ratings make sense. Except for DHIL. Sorry 7/10 is just wrong. He’s at least 8/10 if you really hate the skill point eating. You also put herta as 8/10 for being good in only pure fiction while he’s good in everything else. He has a higher damage ceiling than Jingliu. Yeah his skill point heavy play style can be hard but it’s overblown. I don’t have sparkle and have no issue managing skill points. Just can’t play him on auto lmao.
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Well I may be a little biased against him, sorry about that. I never liked the 3 skill point thing. It's cool and unique but since I have a destruction only account it's never been good enough. In my experience, Jingliu has always been so much better. If only there was a destruction lightcone that gave extra skill points..
@dylikestories3 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeine yeah no worries. It seems like most people have a bias against him which I understand. The damage difference between the two isn’t really enough to justify using DHIL when Jingliu is much easier to play. I also realized my original comment comes off kind of rude. I apologize for that.
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
@@dylikestories Not at all! Everyone's opinions are welcome here, and you're comment wasn't rude at all. Civil discussions in the comments are a part of every successful channel. But yeah as you said, Jingliu is a lot easier to play and does more damage, so almost everyone tends to prefer her.
@christopher42273 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeinei never found the skill points an issue with tingun and sparkle and sp positive loucha i almost never find myself in a state i am not using his enhanced basic attack
@christian7513 ай бұрын
If Jingli gets 9.5 out of ten the so does dan heng. He does more damage than her.
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
He doesn't do more damage than her unless their builds are vastly different. I tested them both out, with similar investments. Jingliu is not only so much easier to play but also did 100k more damage. Check that video out; I did change the rating to 8 or 8.5. I can't remember.
@astreiya3 ай бұрын
As a JY main I gotta admit yeah the 5/10 is accurate (unless you have a super invested JY but its not relatable to everyone at all) I think though that it needs to be pointed out that due to the extreme amount of fomo-inducing mechanics this patch including putting fire weaknesses everywhere, and promoting break everywhere, Himeko could deserve a raise as... well she works really well in a fire super break team ! especially this moc rotation, she has one of the highest usages in 12-2 it's dumb, AS 4-2 has the same "problem" and Himeko also works pretty well there. Great vid thanks a lot
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, and I'll definitely see how Himeko handles moc 12 then.
@astreiya3 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeine thanks a lot for reading my comment ! i can't wait to see how it turns out in the future too as well, since we could just have no fire weakness in future mocs. doesn't seem too "mihoyo" tho, unless yunli takes the precedence for that
@SentisYATTA3 ай бұрын
4:51 I'm in ur walls
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
I would expect no less.
@The_CodFish693 ай бұрын
Even tho Clara is about to be sent to the shadow realm next patch she’s better then blade in the right teams no contest especially if you have dupes. She’s easily a 6.5 or 7/10
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Well, I wouldn't say so. Blade's able to do his FUA every 2 turns at least and it does way more damage than Clara's, and don't forget the damage of his burst and enhanced basic attack too. I do agree that she's underrated and especially for pure fiction. Also, I did say five stars are at E0, so no dupes allowed.
@The_CodFish693 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeine but on the right team her enhanced FUA hits for over 130K+ at E0 and her normal hits like 70K+ not to mention the skill still dose ok damage aswell and she fits in the FUA team with supports like Robin. And trust me she destroys Blade when she’s in the FUA team. For example with the team above Even at E0 she can 2~3 cycle the current MoC.
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
@@The_CodFish69 I see. I'll consider what you said for any next rating or ranking video after I do some testing for myself. I personally only ever used Clara and Blade on Destruction Only where I can't use any supports.
@boredperson10113 ай бұрын
@@The_CodFish69 Exactly, She can easily reach 100-160k with her ult (Which correct me if im wrong but her best teams have characters who can get her ult faster, Or atleast best teams for E0) and with high investment for the whole team, You can reach 200k
@hauntedpopcorn86792 ай бұрын
Sushang is probably my favorite character in the game even if her damage isn't the best.
@KitanasWarfan3 ай бұрын
I'd give jingliu 10/10 just because of that nearly 500k damage she did in the clip 😭
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Well because of the AS buff its a lot more than usual.
@entsensei3 ай бұрын
Correction: Both boothill and Firefly are considered specialist since they are not hypercarries and can be allowed to be played both at the same time in break archetypes (DoT is like this as well), they are more of a support rather than a DPS since they're a niche amount of break characters that works well together if you put them both, just make sure HMC and RM is on the team when you put both good break characters at the same time in a roster
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
For sure, but most people would use them as a main DPS. HMC makes sure that Firefly's damage is always as good as it needs to be even when the enemy is broken, which gives her a steady stream of damage. Same thing for Boothill.
@Zachie72 күн бұрын
Me who left early and returned js some days back With jing yuan and blade as my dps 😑
@moondragon25023 ай бұрын
"Jingliu is one of my favorite", "Firefly is adorable", "Acheron is the best dps in the game" Fluffing girl simp over here, rating simply because he wants to play the game with curvy girl instead of playing it like it is intended to. Exactly, you're supposed to play with Arlan, the best character in the game, the cutest boy, he deserve a 10/10 how dare you make him dirty like that ! Its obviously a joke, Arlan is my favorite character but I totally understand why he's at the bottom of every tier list. Still, you can clear every content of the game with basically any character, its one of the reason I pull and use characters that I like rather than following tier list, and I think its the best way to enjoy the game. Nice video, I think the rating is pretty on point and it was funny to watch !
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Well, to be fair, they always make the prettiest women the most OP. Thanks for the love!
@arcadius32573 ай бұрын
Firefly > Acheron in every fight except ones where you can't break the enemy. Just a fact.
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say so. At E0 (the rule in the video) I'd say Acheron can clear waves a lot easier because she hits 5 targets for a huge amount of damage. In the end they're very evenly matched. I wouldn't say firefly powercrept Acheron whatsoever.
@arcadius32573 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeine Firefly is consistent against any enemy that can be weakness broken. Acheron isn't at E0, her damage is going to be worse against any enemy that isn't lightning weak because her skill doesn't ignore weaknesses at E0 like her ult does. Also honestly even in situations where the enemy is lightning weak Firefly just does more damage over the span of a cycle. Finally, people need to learn what "powercreep" means...NO limited 5 star unit in the game got powercrept yet. They can all do every content in the game, some just have higher relic requirements to do it.
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
@@arcadius3257 You've got some good points, ngl. Soon I'll be testing out my Destruction Only characters via support on my main account to see how much damage they can do, and we'll see how well Firefly does vs Acheron.
@arcadius32573 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeine 👍 Not saying Acheron is weak by any means btw, she's still up there and definitely worth pulling to anyone who doesn't have her and wants her when she has her rerun.
@boredperson10113 ай бұрын
@@arcadius3257 I agree with the powercreep part but i don't agree with Firefly > Acheron, I think they are equal or Acheron is a little better, Plus Weakness barely matters for her since her main damage isn't weakness, And even then you can use your other characters to chip down the weakness until its low enough for Acherons ult to break them, There is a debuffer in almost Every DMG type in the game
@thiluyenpham7622 ай бұрын
I comes here not to know who the best one, but rather trying to learn which role are the character in this game since I just got a account from my brother and no idea how to play the game
@n_skib_a093 ай бұрын
I lost both of them in 50-50 LMAO.
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
pain You got jingliu?
@n_skib_a093 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeine yes.
@riley_873 ай бұрын
i think acheron NEEDING her lightcone makes her fair to play. otherwise she will be too op if a f2p lightcone worked on her.
@8lolbit593 ай бұрын
I hope to see a stream on your normal account
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Very soon. Possibly tomorrow. We'll try and do the higher divergent universe difficulties as well as MoC.
@Siwooluna3 ай бұрын
As a f2p what is the best dps? im currently a beginner btw
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
@@Siwooluna Definitely Kafka. Very future-proof, very easy to build, works with every DoT character, and is OP with Nihility in the SimUni. Stay tuned to figure out if Feixiao will be good!
@Siwooluna3 ай бұрын
@@mooseoncaffeine thank you!
@8lolbit593 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video
@star202543 ай бұрын
it's easy, the answer is xueyi
@boredperson10113 ай бұрын
Real, Xueyi is like my firefly (since i cant get her)
@star202543 ай бұрын
@@boredperson1011 i have firefly but xueyi will always be the best
@NotSamaXD2 ай бұрын
real who needs midfly when you have xueyi
@FuFu-xuan2 ай бұрын
5:55 yea BUT you kinda need black swan.
@NotSamaXD2 ай бұрын
firefly's rating is kinda biased most of her damage is from either gallagoat or HMC. She basically loses 90% of her damage when not paired with HMC. I had a friend's E6S1 FF (i played RM and Gallagher next to her along with my E0S1 Acheron). My Acheron did more damage than her without Nihility supports. midfly should be lowered since she's so dependant on other supports, good video tho
@spidyboi90973 ай бұрын
Is bladie that bad now? 😢
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately
@star202543 ай бұрын
yes😞
@boredperson10113 ай бұрын
No, His best team is not main DPS, But more of a SUB DPS along with a character who can activate his mechanics, For example, The upcoming Jade (which is on the creator server) and Jingliu, Those are some characters who can activate his mechanics (taking health) Espically Jade, Nobody knows how to use Bladie right so don't worry he is still competitive, But just more unique than other characters.
@FuFu-xuan2 ай бұрын
Yea hes like the Klee of hsr tbh
@reizshfelonia64712 ай бұрын
Blade was my first limited character so I invested a lot in him and sad to say, he aged poorly. The lack of supports was the biggest reason for his quick downfall. He only really got Lynx and that's it. Ruan Mei could support him but she is much better utilized in DoT and Break teams who can abuse all her buffs to high heaven.
@Amerpuhlease3 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw tectobe I sighed
@Ravi-i4k3 ай бұрын
Whis is best dps for beginners
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
@@Ravi-i4k Kafka. Easy to build and versatile. Op with nihility in the SimUni. Feixiao might be a good DPS option when she comes out. Pull for Sparkle if you don't have her on her rerun next patch; she's one of the best supports.
@dolphinbanana30533 ай бұрын
RIP Misha Oh you put him in the sub DPS video, smh
@mooseoncaffeine3 ай бұрын
Rip physical MC too.
@gxgardenterprise97053 ай бұрын
as a blade haver blade aint 6/10, his damage is so tiny he should definitelybe lower than clara so about 4/10
@naturwissenschaften-f2u3 ай бұрын
Really accurate ratings, tbh. I would give Firefly an 11/10 because she's our girlfriend so she gets +1
@weirdmilk70173 ай бұрын
Ngl firefly should’ve been lower but still good video
@CanadianBulletAnt3 ай бұрын
super based list, as usual
@eggyteggy3 ай бұрын
tectone and brax taking all the pretty ladies smh
@bloopblap-xn1oq3 ай бұрын
too real 😔
@Vergil694203 ай бұрын
non accurate, yanking slaps
@reizshfelonia64712 ай бұрын
He just slaps while all the other DPS commits total annihilation.