Volk is already way ahead of Aldo all time it’s not even really a debate
@Liminy_snickers7 ай бұрын
I couldn’t agree more Aldo is great but volk passed him after the 3rd Holloway fight
@jocoolshow7 ай бұрын
If you’re only looking at UFC then yea, but if we take into account the WEC + UFC then it’s debatable, since the WEC was the UFC of the lower weight classes
@Liminy_snickers7 ай бұрын
@@jocoolshow you’re right I think it comes down to a few things: if we’re looking at skill I think volk is obviously more advanced and more well rounded Aldo’s legacy is the only argument people have for him still being the fw goat and I think volk has better wins than also as well
@aronviranyi4587 ай бұрын
For sure. Jose Aldo is probably no. 2, but i think Holloway is damn close to him. Volk is far above both.
@saqiburrahman65247 ай бұрын
@@aronviranyi458tbf there is a world where volk retires allowing Holloway to win the belt back. If he wins the belt back and defends it at least 3 or 4 times you could argue he overtakes aldo as well.
@peanutbar88827 ай бұрын
Jon Jones: Never Lost💀 Everybody and their mama knows he lost that fight
@Kgopani31017 ай бұрын
Reyes was coasting through the championship rounds which left a sour taste in judges' mouth so obviously rather than a draw they'd give the win to the dominant champion who's been a champ since the last 12 years
@mikolajakubiec6667 ай бұрын
@@Kgopani3101 you seem like you have no idea how judging fights works
@Kgopani31017 ай бұрын
@@mikolajakubiec666 damn man got me there, but I'll explain to YOU in MMA scoring terms Round 1-2 Reyes 10-9 Round 5 Jones 10-9 Round 4 Jones 10-9 Round 3 was a close one, could've gone to either one of them, but judges went with the dominant champion
@Kgopani31017 ай бұрын
@@mikolajakubiec666 If they couldn't give round 3 to reyes and make it 48-47 for reyes, then it should've hundred percent be a 48-48 draw, but they didn't want to stain his record any further
@mikolajakubiec6667 ай бұрын
@@Kgopani3101 round 3 was clearly reyes buddy.
@marcelosilva24957 ай бұрын
O'Malley has some of the best takedown defense in the UFC based in what sample size? Defending 2 takedowns from Aljo?
@user-vo1gd5sk8n7 ай бұрын
Yes nobody in that division could do it
@pflges11177 ай бұрын
@@user-vo1gd5sk8n Yan took him down many times.
@realinus6 ай бұрын
@@user-vo1gd5sk8n🤡🤡🤡
@magnaty52127 ай бұрын
Sorry but you have said adesanya is an 8 with purely his striking and oliveira is 7.5 with his amazing striking, bjj and wrestling, thats just shitty take, sorry man, adesanya is 7.5, slightly better than Pereira (only in the scoring overall skillsets, Pereira beats him in a rematch easily), because he is more experienced and got more tools, but charles is like solid 8 or 8.5, also Pantoja should have better score than adesanya because of ammount of tools in his arsenal, so he should on par with olives with score of 8 or 8.5
@Figgy6367 ай бұрын
Great points. Also O’Malley 7 with Adesanya at an 8 makes no sense. O’Malley is at least as good at striking as Adesanya and has better take down defense. He said this isn’t a legacy video then rated O’Malley based off legacy…
@killiantallon80867 ай бұрын
"i wont be taking legacy into account" "izzy owned MW division against mid fighters"
@CalvinLangatMMA7 ай бұрын
This is why I like your channel man. I know you’re not an Izzy fan but was still unbiased rating him. Top lad
@triocha2337 ай бұрын
Judging by this comment then you clearly hang off Izzy’s balls 😂
@mohammedzain55987 ай бұрын
MY P"4"P RANKINGS AND POINTS = {ONLY BASED ON CURRENT SITUATION} 1. ISLAM MAKHACHEV = 9.3 [ has to prove a Lil bit of Cardio, Durability, Chin for a 10 ] 2. Volkanovski = 8.9 [ has a KO recently and is kinda Old, if defeats iilia then 0.2 extra points ] 3. JONES = 8.5 [ Overrated gane win, will be NO.1 if defeats Tom aspinall, Will beat old man stipe ] 4. Charles Olives = 8.5 H[as LoopHoles, IF defeat Islam then NO.1{not happening}, Chin is weak, Gives up] ALL OTHERS ARE JUST MEHHH PERIERA WILL LOOSE TO ANKALAEV, LEON made colby fight a bit awful, pantoja is not bad but its featherweight, o malley isnt actually tested [lost to yan imo,was a good shot for aljo] shavkat,arman,ankalaev,aspinall make the list of top 15
@kenkashikovacs5 ай бұрын
charles a 8 and the rest is good!also i dont think nobody will go to distance with islam anymore,he will finish all of them in lw
@nickrealbuto37863 ай бұрын
“He’s got great takedown defense as well. His takedown defense is amazing as well has Sean omally. He’s got some of the best takedown defense in the ufc.” Very well put lmao😂😂😂
@cjg39867 ай бұрын
Giving periera a 7 only makes sense if you would also give prime khabib no more than an 8/10. He is just the striking equivalent. When has his weakness in grappling caused him to lose. Hes a double champ and has beaten everyone he has fought in the ufc. He was actually beating izzy worse in the second fight befoe he got chinned. At 205 the chin will be better and with his leverage and strength, i dont see anyone taking him down before he turns off the lighta
@user-pn3gt2ij5e6 ай бұрын
Bro khabib never lost a second of grappling ever let alone getting finished like Alex did when he was fighting in his world
@kenkashikovacs5 ай бұрын
khabib is pure domination!no scratch,no one can stop it,never bleed,never lost,mauled everyone!
@Lmao693 ай бұрын
Happens when you fight cans for 90% of your career and only 3 elite strikers. @@kenkashikovacs
@ImMeE197 ай бұрын
P4P #1 is at least a 9.5 Jones & Volk are both at least a 9
@Kazwick127 ай бұрын
Jiri is a high level grappler💀
@demi68197 ай бұрын
He won’t get easily submitted at least
@mannyy36197 ай бұрын
submitted glover
@beaualoevv7 ай бұрын
@@mannyy3619after glover made a 1 in 1000 mistake after 4,5 rounds
@kelakogreenaddict18887 ай бұрын
Oliveira showed a decent amount of wrestling against tony, off the top of my head
@jocoolshow7 ай бұрын
What would you rate Strickland, Aljo, Aspinall, Max and Usman? Unlike about half of the top 10, Aljo Max and Usman have that proven champion level experiences and multiple title defenses
@hugorake65896 ай бұрын
yeah, holloway is very good imo
@FireCaT-7 ай бұрын
Islam 9.6 Jones 9.3 Volkanovski 9.4 Leon 8.6 Pereira 7.9 Olivera 8.8 O'Malley 7.8 DDP 7.5 Pantoja 7.7 Adesanya 7.8 1 am btw so ratings may be fucked i will change if arguments are reasonable
@cjg39867 ай бұрын
Honestly with Leon still managing to make a fight with a practically frozen Colby look competitive, I couldn't have him higher than Oliveira. I also don't know about *current* Jones being 9.3. Prime Jones was no more than a 9.6 and he's regressed for sure
@MhmElias7 ай бұрын
@@cjg3986prime jones is a 9.8 all he lacked really was maybe speed striking but that’s it
@FireCaT-7 ай бұрын
@@cjg3986That might be fair I'll switch their ratings but Jones is staying at 9.3
@keyboardwarrior65917 ай бұрын
@@MhmEliasprime jones still lacked in boxing, I think a 9 is around accurate
@harrydipple22517 ай бұрын
good ratings bro all i’d say is maybe pantoja same level as izzy and ddp a bit lower as his win wasn’t convincing
@Slim-Clips7 ай бұрын
Jones has no boxing and awful defensive footwork. Overrated fighter with an overrated resume.
@aronviranyi4587 ай бұрын
Overrated resume? Not really. Overrated fighter? Probably. If he was truly no. 2 p4p he'd just take the Aspinall fight
@MM330037 ай бұрын
@@aronviranyi458You’re saying that as if the UFC offered him a fight with Aspinall. Stipe was booked for the Jones fight long before Aspinall was in title contention.
@MM330037 ай бұрын
@SlimClipper It’s called MMA, not boxing. I guess Jones’ resume is just a mirage to you.
@kelakogreenaddict18887 ай бұрын
First half, sure, but second half is crazy- as a DJ fan, I have to say champs fight whoever theyre put in front of, and when you rack up double digit title defences, you’re fighting the best in the world constantly at that weight class. He’s also shown a pretty high level well rounded game of basically every prominent martial art apart from boxing
@ssglbc18757 ай бұрын
@@MM33003Jon even said he doesn’t want to fight Aspinal. I don’t think jones is the best heavyweight but he is the p4p goat and fighting a young guy like stipe while jones is a little older I can blame jones for not wanting to fight
@ledje007 ай бұрын
Leon 8 and Charles 8 imo
@arameanmapper7 ай бұрын
You make good vids keep it up mate
@richcantgame6 ай бұрын
I think beating Ilia would’ve made Volk the clear goat of 145 and would’ve put him in my top 5. Aldo was already in that conversation for me so I don’t think Volk would’ve been out of place joining that list. I’d still personally go Volk, Aldo, Max in their primes but I think putting Aldo 1 is very fair. I think Aldo is really good so I’m not tryna downplay him
@georgecheng97717 ай бұрын
I have different view about Izzy and Pereira. Yes Izzy seems more well rounded with his TDD but don't forget Pereira actually took down Izzy once during their first fight, and in the 3rd round Izzy was able to take down Pereira due to Pereira's own mistake of trying to take Izzy down. Also don't forget Pereira actually threatened submission against both Jan and Jiri, but Izzy was never trying to have offensive submission before. So just based on well-roundedness, Pereira actually have some good arguments saying he is better than Izzy.
@triocha2337 ай бұрын
Mate Alexander Volkanovski is going to completely & utterly outclass Ilia Topuria across 5 rounds Total Domination Volk via UD
@hugorake65896 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@skeemzr16 ай бұрын
fairs
@woah96376 ай бұрын
Rip
@mannyy36197 ай бұрын
oliveira doesnt lack in wrestling imo seeing what he did to tony when he was still good
@Slim-Clips7 ай бұрын
Volk is so much better than Jones, it’s not even remotely close.
@mysticmac42447 ай бұрын
Lol volk not even close to jones bruh volk lost by KO so many times while jones never lost or even wobble because he is so good no one can knock him out or wobble him
@RandomDudew7 ай бұрын
@@mysticmac4244he lost by ko only once tho...
@mysticmac42447 ай бұрын
@@RandomDudew two times bruh and volk can't ever throw a kick to a head or a body dont ever compare him to jones against because jones is a complete mma fighter he's the best
@wazza-0077 ай бұрын
@@mysticmac4244jones greater but rn volk is skill for skill snd p4p levels ahead rn
@mysticmac42447 ай бұрын
@@wazza-007 based on what? 🤣😂 never bruh, jones is better skill than volk like volk can't even throw a kick to a body or to a head and submission people lol while jones can do that easily lol please don't be delusional jones is way better in terms of skill like i said jones is complete mma fighter
@ramoondark32467 ай бұрын
I wold never give him anything higher than 7 just yet 😃
@TheCallumTR7 ай бұрын
Pretty accurate I'd say
@gergodavid48827 ай бұрын
Charles should easily be an 8 or 8.5
@robertmceuen36307 ай бұрын
O'Malley? No, hell no. VERY questionable decision in the Yan fight.(I thought he lost) Ya, he knocked out dude for his belt, but even so, thats ONE fight. Vera beat him, so he picks him for his first defense. Even if he wins, thats a push. No way he should be on this list. If he beats Merab and Sandhagen, ok. But I doubt he will.
@ProximaU07 ай бұрын
Didn’t Volk get K.O.ed in ww as well?
@joshroth90187 ай бұрын
I think that was before he was in the ufc
@ProximaU07 ай бұрын
@@joshroth9018It was, but people seem to just ignore it.
@Akira-uy4yd7 ай бұрын
Islam and Prime Jones: 9/10 Volkanovski: 8.5-9/10 Edwards:8/10 Pereira:7.5/10 Oliveira: 8.5/10 O'Malley: 7.5/10 Pantoja: 7.5/10 Adesanya: 7.5-8/10 DDP and Strickland: 7-8/10 Prime Jones could be even higher. Volk almost defeated Islam who is much bigger and only lost on short notice( I believe Islam would have won either way, but it would've been closer). Charles is better than Adesanya. Elite grappling, amazing striking and solid wrestling. 4th best in UFC right now for sure. O'Malley and Pantoja maybe an 8. Need to see more. DDP and Strickland are both odd balls. Strickland has amazing cardio, great striking and wrestling, but he just jabs the entire time and never goes for a takedown. For someone who wants to die in the ring, he fights too passively. Agree with what you said about DDP, but he is still really good and on the same level as Sean. Bonus: Aspinall is an 8/10. Edwards and him could both go to 8.5 once we see how much they dominate in future. Prime Usman is strong 8.5/10. Prime Cejudo is also 8.5/10, with strong argument for 9/10 Holloway at his best is an 8, maaaaybe 8.5? Active fighters ranking at their best: 1.Jones 2/3.Islam/Volk 4.Henry Cejudo 5.Kamaru Usman 6.Charles Oliveira 7.Max Holloway? 8.Tom Aspinall? 9.Leon Edwards 10.Adesanya?
@keyboardwarrior65917 ай бұрын
Dogshit. Prime Jones did not have elite boxing either
@spectreshot85367 ай бұрын
O'Malley shouldn't be on the list we all, but considering he has no skill on a mic so the UFC needs to try to sell him as much as possible.
@coathanger77607 ай бұрын
why should he not be on the list? he beat aljo who was in the top 15???
@DWYCK-7 ай бұрын
If a criteria for Jon is that he has popped for steroids, it should be a criteria for Islam aswell cause Islam has also been suspended in the ufc for popping a known russian steroid
@michaelmccoy91477 ай бұрын
You’ll be popped for copium if you’re not careful😂 bros making up his own version of history💀
@megatronnegron82807 ай бұрын
Pretty accurate
@dula047 ай бұрын
volk should be 9
@realinus6 ай бұрын
Creaming Adesayna now lmfao
@jiriz5917 ай бұрын
DDP definitely higher than 7. Cardio issues are gone after operation. But mostly he is underrated because Strickland is also underrated af, even now.
@conormcgregorsbrokenleg98477 ай бұрын
Na
@j.a.g.86897 ай бұрын
This guy say that Islam almost beat volk the first time??
@Looooooooong2q7 ай бұрын
Barely beat him
@bigwood5559Ай бұрын
pereira is #1, casual
@coreymcnulty51257 ай бұрын
Holloway being 14 on pfp list is a disgrace, should be top 5
@arman_llc6247 ай бұрын
why? he hasn't been the champ for ages and lost 3 fights against the current champ.
@ЕгорЧёрт7 ай бұрын
How is he higher than pereira or leon?
@sleepisthecousinofdeath73957 ай бұрын
Nah 🤣
@coreymcnulty51257 ай бұрын
@@arman_llc624 If volk didn’t exsist he would probably be top 3. I don’t get why he has to have the belt to be top 5, hes obviously that skilled
@yehiak87117 ай бұрын
@@coreymcnulty5125 so in 2022 jon jones should be number 1 even though he didnt fight in 2 years?
@realinus6 ай бұрын
Creaming old man Volk.
@ZexZis3167 ай бұрын
This dude likes sulking aspinall off,like this dude just said that aspinall can beat jon jones,it's crazy(time stamp: 3:13)
@lavranstvinnereim25376 ай бұрын
Aspinall would beat jon tho. His only win at hw is against gane who has no grappling while aspinall is a bjj blackbelt
@realinus6 ай бұрын
Strickland got robbed.
@rayboi55626 ай бұрын
If you unironically think that ur a casual
@seergaming59527 ай бұрын
Bro loves glazing Islam. Bro gives him so much damn credit for the second fight with Volk. It was short notice in Abu Dhabi, so he’s getting juiced up. He couldn’t do that to him in the first fight.
@michaelmccoy91477 ай бұрын
Coooppeeeeeeeeeee. Islam took thwt fight on short notice too😂 and don’t pretend Volk wasn’t training for Ilia before he got pulled into fighting Islam. And wheres your proof of the juice buddy?😂 Just because this man gives people credit doesn’t mean hes “glazing” he gives volk equal credit
@seergaming59527 ай бұрын
@@michaelmccoy9147 Volk had surgery weeks before the fight and he fought fought Yair in July. There plenty of poof he’s on roids. He took them as a kid, he got suspended for using banned substances, and why does he do so well in Abu Dhabi than the US or outside of Abu Dhabi. And he had an IV in Australia and there is proof he used an IV
@MrFelipinho7777 ай бұрын
izzy 8/10 Wtf bro
@eIcucuy7 ай бұрын
Correction: Islam Makhachev is the best fighter in the ufc right now besides Jon jones
@meliora996 ай бұрын
topuria and edwards too
@eIcucuy6 ай бұрын
islam would maul leon and ilia@@meliora99
@meliora996 ай бұрын
@@eIcucuy ilia probably, dk about leon. I would favour islam but p4p atm they are all great
@richcantgame6 ай бұрын
@@meliora99Dunce
@archieblue18785 ай бұрын
Islam is the best in the UFC rn. Jones defo has the superior legacy but Islam at the moment is the better fighter + Aspinall sweeps Jones.