RAV Vast scales Overview

If you like my concept, order the Handpan and Rav textbook "Playing Handpan" by Kay Rauber, published by AMA Verlag 2021 (in German and English).
For workshops and instruments please check www.handpanwelt.ch
If you can´t decide which scale fits the best to you, here is a demonstration of nearly all RAV Vasts. I hope I can help ;-)
I recommend wearing headphones for better sound quality.
You find the exact time below:
0:33 G Minor Pentatonic
2:00 G Pygmy
3:11 A Integral
4:15 A RUS
5:19 E low Pygmy
6:38 D Major
8:07 D Celtic Minor
9:03 B Celtic Double Ding
10:25 B Major
11:45 B Onoleo
12:55 B Celtic Minor
14:12 B Golden Arcadia
15:20 B Integral
17:05 B Minor Pentatonic
18:30 B Pygmy
19:58 C Golden Gate

[@KayRauber]

0:33 G Minor Pentatonic 2:00 G Pygmy 3:11 A Integral 4:15 A RUS 5:19 E low Pygmy 6:38 D Major 8:07 D Celtic Minor 9:03 B Celtic Double Ding 10:25 B Major 11:45 B Onoleo 12:55 B Celtic Minor 14:12 B Golden Arcadia 15:20 B Integral 17:05 B Minor Pentatonic 18:30 B Pygmy 19:58 C Golden Gate

[@mambamentality2663]

D Celtic minor is soooo melodious!!!

[@dagmara1010]

thank you so very much, too. it is great to have that overview which helps a lot to find the sound which fits to me myself!

[@shadowdroid776]

What I heard from each drum: 1. a rainforest 2. a warrior fighting against an enemy 3. a plane of sand and water, where people are trying to solve puzzles to get through 4. large cats playing and climbing a tree deep in the jungle 5. explorers in the Goblin's cave 6. a beautiful elf wielding magic 7. a young boy chasing a tiny fey child 8. the boy and fey are grown up, sitting in a field of fireflies and watching the stars 9. a family of people enjoying a good meal together 10. a dragon testing a party with riddles 11. an underwater land 12. a golden palace in the desert 13. a deepsea cave, where a creature is fighting against someone. 14. a snow-filled landscape, with a girl braving the cold 15. the land of the dwarves 16. a waterfall, with a river running through the woods

[@jsmyth024]

Thanks for doing just the scales. I can never tell if I love the scale or if I'm in love with the song being played. lol

[@MultiPetra12]

Vielen herzlichen Dank Kay- das ist die beste Scale- Übersicht, die existiert !

[@brichter543]

So helpful as I explore scale options, and great playing! Thanks!

[@voytsmis]

FANTASTIC presentation !!!!!!! Absolutely great show of RAVS scales...THANK YOU !....great sound quality ...great "short" explorations showing the soul of all scales...very very useful video ....thanx a milion . !

[@KayRauber]

Thank you! Very welcome. I^m happy you like it! Cheers Kay

[@KayRauber]

Thanks a lot! Very welcome ;-)

[@MrNathanovic]

@@KayRauber wow. Can I ask what kind of microphone you use for this?

[@corsaireleotore9208]

Great musician ! Great vidéo. Thank for your time

[@timtravasos2742]

Very interesting. Each has their own unique sound.

[@hanswurst9079]

oh my ... fantastic! so wonderful!

[@RAVVastSteelTongueDrum]

really good Overview. Thank you, Kay for making it!

[@KayRauber]

Thank you for building them!! ;-)

[@RAVVastSteelTongueDrum]

👍👍👍

[@timharrington4470]

Thank you for making this video because it will help me in choosing the right scaled for my first RAV Vast drum

[@chasadyah]

That D Major is so invigorating 🦋

[@asteriosf]

Wonderful presentation!! 🙂

[@agnieszkasander3770]

Great, thanks a lot for that video!

[@markeeledge]

Amazing! Thank You!

[@marknesium]

thank you for this great comparison of the scales! to me the d major scale sounds the most pleasing, but the b onoleo scale always makes me go wow - its so exciting! i think i will go with the d major though for my first rav, and maybe someday i will get the onoleo.

[@sebastiankuhnert3639]

Hallo Kay, deine Videos sind sehr hilfreich! Vor 2 Wochen ist eine RAV Drum (B RUS) bei mir zu Hause angekommen, hatte mir vorher ein Video mit den verschiedenen Techniken angeschaut und konnte sofort loslegen. Danke ;)

[@KayRauber]

Top, Sebastian das freut mich. Happy Raving!

[@GreenredProductions]

E low Pygmy is a special one! The most expensive of all the RAVs, but worth it!

[@KayRauber]

It is definitely. But I would buy it as a second RAV, not as the first.

[@N0Camping4U]

Why's that?

[@randyllst]

Good question... why do you say so? I have just bought my first rav less than an hour ago and its an E low pygmy. Very nice video by the way

[@wandering_heart]

@@randyllst I don't think that was a fair thing to say, honestly. There is alot that is very, very special about the E low pygmy. I'm sure you've more than enjoyed yours. I was stuck between it and A Marmara for my first. I ultimately went with the marmara, but only because I liked the sweetness of the scale for more hopeless nights. E low pygmy is what made me fall in love with the vast, though.

[@befree4876]

I personally don’t like that one. Too low for me..

[@ruudratajczak2240]

SUPER!!

[@aesonone]

dude ur insane at this instrument

[@beaconoflightinthedark1276]

Ordered the G minor pentatonic,this video made me discover this scale and it is my favorite can't wait to play it!!

[@NECROFOROSX]

How is it? I am considering it as well!

[@Sir.YeetusIII]

The E low Pygmy scale sounds like a load of power cords, which is pretty sick!

[@JohnLRice]

Thank you for this very helpful and enjoyable video! :-) I was about to order one of the Celtic Minor, maybe the Double Ding, but I really liked the Onoleo now too! I have to think about it for a while.

[@RAVVastSteelTongueDrum]

Just take one that is closer to your soul!

[@JohnLRice]

I went ahead and ordered the B Onoleo! :-)

[@RAVVastSteelTongueDrum]

excellent choice!

[@CathyStacy]

Great video as always.

[@KayRauber]

Thanks Cathy!

[@shaktiveda7041]

Hey Kay, congrats for the beautiful review here and the gorgeous Rav Vasts display's along with the melodies...Fascinated by this instrument, I wonder what would you suggest for a first Vast? Thanks! 😊

[@georgeattard1116]

nice I am learning more here than any other tutorials so far please can you show in slow motion and repeats

[@zaqgt5]

That B Pygmy song was a BANGER

[@BarryGrueter]

Very nice, just subscribed and hit the bell 🔔 I just received my first RAV VAST “A” Rus love it. Trying to find a good harmony RAV VAST to go together with it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and talents ❤️

[@sebastiankuhnert3639]

Wie immer klasse! Danke! Ich würde mich über ein Video freuen, wo du erklärst, welche RAVs gut zusammen passen. Außerdem: Welche Ständer verwendest du bei Rav Drums?

[@KayRauber]

Hi Sebastian, ich brauche meistens normale Snare Ständer (Schlagzeug). Grüsse Kay

[@2S1L3NT]

It's D Celtic minor for me.

[@bowzerdog1]

My new Custom Rainbow Novadrum with burnt varnish finish in C minor is absolutely sublime..It has more sustain than the Rav D.. Absolutely rings! Playing the D and D minor drums together is an education. Yes the more drums the better, i think the next one i will buy is the Rav Vast 2 double ding B minor.. As much as i adore Quint Art sound, it is one step closer to steel drum sound..The Rav and Nova drums still have that piano like ring of steel tongues.. If i could afford it I would buy a Rav in every tuning they make...

[@voytsmis]

Hello...can You make update with missing scales?

[@snosan]

Great video mate, really good demonstration of the scales : D What would be your favorite scale or scales?

[@voytsmis]

Interesting question...waiting for answer...

[@KayRauber]

Difficult question. I play a lot on my d Celtic minor, the G Pygmy and the A minor. ( The 3 I bought first). Im a bit more in the RAV1 because I prefer the thinner sound of the body but at the end, i love them all :-)

[@snosan]

Alright thanks for the answer, I bet its really hard to choose between all these wonderful scales! I'm trying to decide between the B/D celtic minor scales, its such a hard choice, I really love the tone of both, maybe the B a little more, but I got a Pygmy and my friend got the A integral+B onoleo, and I've heard that the D celtic minor works well with Pygmy/integral....choices are hard : (

[@KayRauber]

:-) in is! At the end its all about feeling. About the B or D celtic: If you are more in deeper scales definitely choose the B celtic, if you like high notes the D might be the right one. The D sounds pretty high, and in a way close a handpan. I like both of them..

[@snosan]

Yea, I do kind of prefer the sound of the B celtic but at the same time I really do enyoy playing with my friends so having a more compatable scale would be preferable. Truely a wonderful problem to have, to have to chose between these two almost equally beautiful scales ^^ The B seems very good "all round" and easy to compose on with the notes avaivable, very versitile so to say, do you think it's the same with the D? Maybe it's a bad question considering they all got the same amount of notes, sort of.

[@ValentinShkandybin]

Ооочень крутое видео!Лайк! Подписка!

[@RA-lh9uh]

waw this is just awesome to hear all of them when i listen some of them are just catching me like B integral is like african forest at kilimanjaro i feel like i will se a group of gorillas right now B pygmy is souch african sound like some tribal dance C golden gate is like samba festival D major is like cinematographic sound. sounds like rain man theme. i have to get one and i would pick D celtic minor or E low pygmy cuz those 2 are so special

[@marcmaclellan3503]

Hello kay big thanks could you advice me please on my first Rav as I like meditation and harmonic balance with a deep undercurrent ..thanks Marc

[@einarjungmann273]

Still I have no idea which choose :D

[@noahreinhuber6191]

Favorite scale: B Golden Arcadia Favorite improv in this video: B minor pentatonic

[@eirinn70]

I ordered the E low Pygmy because I had to make a choice, but it was really tough to decide which one I like best.

[@KayRauber]

It is! There are so much really good Scales...

[@KayRauber]

it is beautiful. You will have lots of fun with it!

[@myfirstnamemylastname2994]

Anyone familiar and knowledgeable who can answer, please do: I have always preferred music in a minor key. I would be a total beginner, and am wondering the best way to strive long-term for skill enough to play the Onoleo, the Arabian Nights or similar. Your site suggests (I think) G Minor pentatonic and G Pygmy, and D Celtic Minor as the best for beginners. I don't have a favorite among those like I do the long-term "dream" ones. I like the B Kurd, the B rus, B Pygmy, B Integral. and the other Pymies, and B Integral fairly well. I am wondering whether there are 2-3 different ones that if I bought them in sequence over time would allow for the stages of development but be in that same mood of mysterious, mystical, mesmerizing, melancholic mood? That would end with the Onoleo or Arabian? Also, is there a unifying aspect of the layout such that moving form one to the other won't take an even longer time to learn than starting with the harder one to begin with? I have problems with spatial relationships--left, right, timing, etc., and if a particular note was in a very different place than on a differently-scaled version, it would be like starting a new job in a big office building where the big and more complicated layout was a lot like your old one but not very. I'd be getting off the elevator on my "old floor" every day for weeks. If I hade worked 6 different somewhat-but-not-totally similar places, I'd recognize the universal similarities and the rest would be sorted more quickly. Is it like that, much less of a problem once skills become at least intermediate? Thanks for any advice you may have!

[@kymastyl]

I am an absolute beginner in playing music, I just bought a B Celtic Minor and I am so in love with it, that's why I already dream about a 2nd one, because I also liked G Pygmy, A Intagral and E Low so much...what would you suggest? (I want a different sound as 2nd and not to combine the two.)

[@soundsoflakeville8422]

I am in the same boat, 5 years later..:-) How did you decide and what is your experience?

[@MiaogisTeas]

B Onoleo C Golden Gate I'm looking for something that is reminiscent of ancient scales, as found on a Grecian kithara or lyre. (For my own notes and the algorithm, thanks for the video)

[@KidNoah2012]

I wish someone would try playing these with vibraphone mallets. Two in each hand would be amazing.

[@emanvz]

no Kurd?

[@gwonya]

Hi Kay, Can you identify a scale you feel works particularly well when paired with the low E? Many thanks!

[@KayRauber]

gwonya I love the combination E low Pygmy / B celtic minor. Cheers Kay

[@N0Camping4U]

I want to get the C golden gate and my friend wants the E low Pygmy, will they go well together? What are your thoughts on these for our first rav?

[@randyllst]

Amazing. I have just bought E low about an hour ago. My first. Wishing to combine with the C Golden Gate already

[@jackkotze1856]

Great video, thanks for taking the time to break down each scale and showing the potentail of each one! Im a complete noob to music and Ravs but can anyone tell me the the difference between 'B celtic minor' and 'D celtic minor' I love them both but dont know which one to purchase. Is the B deeper sounding? Any info from anyone would be great :)

[@shadowdroid776]

I know this is an old comment, but I hope I can help! I'm actually torn between the two as well, I love both of them and I don't know which one to get either. D celtic minor and B celtic minor are the same scale, but different notes. The notes for D celtic minor are D3, A3, C4, D4, E4, F4, G4, A4, C5 (D, A, C, D, E, F, G, A, C) and there is no B note in it. The notes for B celtic minor are B2, F#3, A3, B3, C#4, D4, E4, F#4, A4 ( B, F#, A, B, C#, D, E, F#, A), so this one has sharp notes in it. It's also lower on the scale than D celtic minor as indicated by the numbering.

[@jackkotze1856]

@@shadowdroid776 thanks for the reply! Yea awesome your info is spot on!. I end up purchasing the B Celtic, the drum is out of this world and the scale is amazing ✌

[@shadowdroid776]

@@jackkotze1856 I'm so glad I could help! I actually got the D Celtic, I just felt more drawn to it :)

[@petrd4840]

Definitely a great video to get some idea, but the sound sounds quite different from what RAV has on their website for example. Why is this? Was it treated with a software or?

[@VyralOfficial]

Seems like this has additional reverb, but this could be because of the mic used, I am not sure.

[@Iyana]

I'm really stuck. I really like dreamy sounds, like I'm in some sort of magical forest. But I also love the African sounds. 💕

[@sehshn]

I lose control on my G Pygmy, I have a C golden Gate & a D Celtic minor that are quite dreamy & magical sounding, i also think the A Rus may be good for magical dreamy forest 🌳 But I must say the ultimate scale is … that new F Astronaut, it’s a F2 Low Pygmy scale and it’s something else. .

[@meltemh.2002]

Oh it's so hard to decide :( this will be my first drum and I'm a beginner. Can someone help me? All of them sound incredibly great.

[@RAVVastSteelTongueDrum]

Hey. Just ask us. We'll help you!

[@voytsmis]

And only ONE question...what do You honestly think about new RAVS with "bend , twisted" tongues...like B integral B Onoleo...are they 100 % clear? No cross talk....no interference between notes? My best regards for You and All RAV VAST enthusiats...

[@KayRauber]

in my opinion, both of them sound very good. I like the twisted tongues because its easier to play only the high note on the small edge now.

[@myfirstnamemylastname2994]

The improv you chose to do doesn't seem to untrained ear to highlight the differences between them, especially the ones hat are most similar.

[@THERAGINGPOTHEAD]

Did you hear B Onoleo

[@piyushnagar]

I'm undecided between Onoleo and Golden Arcadia..... 🤔 It will be my first

[@KayRauber]

I would prefer the onoleo out of this two, but both of them are not really beginner scales in my opinion. Regards Kay

[@piyushnagar]

Most suggest B Celtic Minor for the first

[@KayRauber]

Yes, thats a good start!

[@neebinmakwah349]

What gear are using to record? Are you adding reverb?

[@KayRauber]

Yes. I use logic pro and Neumann microphones. But this one is recorded with the camera microphone and edited with logic pro.

[@hunam3876]

that's around $11K right there.

[@Jay-ye1up]

I don't like the added reverb. Kind of gives people a false sense of the actual sound. Sneaky trick to make them sound better

[@JohnLRice]

Well, the video is intended to be a "scales Overview" and not a tonal/sustain comparison. I don't think he was trying to trick anyone? :-)