From Holden to Gryphon (The Redemption of Holden Cross)

I've talked quite a lot about Astrea and Apollyon and the Horkos Order, but I haven't talked much about the other side...particularly one of my favorite characters in the For Honor story. I want to talk about Holden Cross, or Grpyhon as he's now known.
I think there's more to Gryphon than many assume. It's easy to hate on the guy because his move set in game and playstyle is so broken and he's caused many players a lot of grief...but I believe that this is tragic because Holden is honestly such a fascinating character. I really want to take some time to discuss WHO Holden is...What he stands for...What he fights for...Why he fights at all. Who is this lion who became a Gryphon?
I do hope ya'll enjoy. Please leave a comment and a like! Don't forget to subscribe if you haven't already. I always am happy to hear from ya'll.
I'll see ya'll, in my next video!
Take care!
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[@LuckyRider-wh1wr]

Looking at this video made me realize, the story mode of for honor is the only time in recent media I've seen, in the end the villain wins

[@LuckyRider-wh1wr]

Also congrats on 7k subs

[@Callsign_Bear]

Apollyon might have died, but in the end, she was right: They would all fight. More would die. The cycle would repeat itself

[@MeisterSchwabbo]

And ultron from Avengers... he also have won. Same with thanos in infinity war and baron zemo from civil war

[@beserker559]

Ardyn and Kefka from final fantasy also won

[@him1517]

yep. The entire game is what happens after.

[@merkavamkivm3373]

"From Holden to Olden"

[@tomjohnston4218]

Olden becomes balden

[@nikkiray2515]

I hate both of you

[@merkavamkivm3373]

@@nikkiray2515 same.

[@tomjohnston4218]

Ok

[@PatrikPavic]

From holden to monke

[@redlightu]

Man, times like this make me wish Ubisoft expanded more on the story and characters of For Honor, instead of giving us short and vague descriptions through Events or tidbits.

[@Kurt20051YT]

Ikr, just think how cool it could've been if the story was a lot longer and if we got story expansions with dlc heroes, imagine playing Shinobi or BP in thier own story.

[@CamoFlash7_]

@@Kurt20051YT My thoughts exactly.

[@zereth2792]

i actually didnt like the story at first but these new characters with their origins made me fucking love it. the whole thing with Apollyon seemed so stupid but when this guy made a video about her and astrea she easily became one of my favorite video game villains and stories of all time

[@For_the-Emperor]

That would involve creativity which ubi is not about. They are about cutting corners and making unfinished projects but charge full price for them.

[@zackerymathiad5075]

As a dark souls player I dont mind it to much

[@GeistDrachen]

Ironic how Astrea is trying to act more like Apollyon but Gryphon actually experiences what she went through and in the end is more like her than Astrea ever will be.

[@MeisterSchwabbo]

Maybe thats the plan... but i don't think Elise the story writer knows how to make a good story, with twists

[@Wayofswords]

@@MeisterSchwabbo the end is nieh thought Holden's character development is better than most and that cross is better man through it all

[@mothman6380]

Well Apollyon was like Holden she was a woman of honor of creed of chivalry but her trauma as a child the raid of her home the rape murder and plunder of her friends and family shaped her she found peace could not exist in world where what she experienced was possible then it would be unexplainable barbarism and have no place in the world she found honor and chivalry and peace to be false a blanket to comfort the weak that would sit idle as the strong died for them she believed in a black and white point of view that the strong were serving the weak she then in return subjugated and punished the weak to bring out the strong Among them asters rages war on the weak she believes that all who are not wolves must die Apollyon didn’t believe that she thought all the weak pretending to be strong must die she believed they had a proper place and was trimmed those that stepped out of line she saw the world through all factions not just knightly ideals and she used that for her purpose of showing the world her truth and now Holden has traveled the world once a man of honor creed and chivalry but instead of a soul haunted and twisted into a demon by trauma he’s now a man of redemption he was a lawbringer who broke his code and now searches to uphold peace and redeem himself of the demon he let himself become he changes his armor language beard to try and find who his is he’s not Holden he’s gryphon but he doesn’t know who gryphon is he wants no recognition he wants peace and atonement the difference between between him and Apollyon is instead of fighting to bring out the strong and show the world of his truths or ideals to justify atrocities that shouldn’t be allowed in a world of peace he fights to end such atrocities so peace may come one day he seeks his redemption not an explanation Astrea fights in the visage of Apollyon for her on corruption of Apollyons ideals and her betterment she has no excuse besides her gain she’s a sheep in wolves clothing nothing more nothing less she has no conviction only the goal of war for the sake of killing the weak not to give a point or show the world a ugly truth but to kill and spread corruption she’s not a devil like Apollyon was or Holden once was she’s a infestation of rats spreading a plague for their own gain

[@marianomaza8941]

Many people hate on astrea, you know, its hard to cover such a large shadow. Still she is a wolf herself after all she has defeted zanhu and other enemies exept for olden cross

[@spookeg5812]

@@marianomaza8941 exactly people are more likely to chose what came before than whats present like old heads will always say old rap was better than current rap. Apollyon left some massive shows to fill but i feel there is some bias against Astrea

[@frederickcrow9046]

With each season we see how right apollyon was.

[@_mass_477]

The redditors... SAVAGES!!!

[@russian_knight]

Realistically, there is no way that heathmoor could ever have true peace.

[@ImRoosevelt]

Apollyon is the true protagonist

[@nathankelly5976]

Wait I just realized that she is correct but peace can be achieved via war if you conquer everyone then all you got to do is deal with inserection ists

[@agentc7020]

Well, we only see how right she was because she worked real hard to be right.

[@phoenixlord2454]

Holden is the whole reason I main Lawbringer, his ideals and actions resonate with me. Watching this has merely increased my resolve.

[@rvxnge7491]

Same

[@droidattackonthewookies2277]

same. after watching this it makes me even prouder to be a lawbringer Main

[@v9tadpole2.02]

Same two button for combo and fainted heavy is a pretty nice resolve

[@Hehehahaaau]

what if i told you........ONE OF MY MAINS IS ASTREA

[@FullAdDariusBR]

@@Hehehahaaau Well, we will just say "GUN KAI!" to you.

[@deusvultcunt5786]

I know why he was surprised by her sparing the viking but him saying “including davis” will never not make me shout out “NO NOT FUCKING DAVIS!!”

[@thediamondcutter9185]

"Noo! Not Lenny!"

[@miimiibeschde4818]

"THEY KILLED DAVIS" "YOU BASTARDS"

[@rogue9898]

“Are we the baddies?”

[@Ninjorsta]

Gryphon is more apollyon than Astrea will ever be

[@biffdakid]

Astrea: cries in war mommy Holden: laughs in gryphon

[@wolfwalker4585]

Simply sick. This made it way easier to understand gryphs/Holdens origins. I can imagine Apo cheering Chimera on, and maybe even Holden himself, to gut the impostor Astrea.

[@derriquethefreak1820]

I don't think she would be cheering them on, but simply saying my true wolves will kill the sheep in wolves clothing

[@logeyperogi1805]

Apollyon’s spirit returns from beyond the veil of death and battles Astrea That’d be a cool event

[@FullAdDariusBR]

@@logeyperogi1805 Indeed

[@shopdu9116]

I actually really liked gryphon. Aside from the fact that he was broken at launch, I liked how he went on this journey and made friends and allies from all factions and possibly more. I love how he came back more like Apollyon then Astrea ever will be. How the only thing he wanted was to protect Ashfeld but grew a more open mind and decided to explore the other cultures.

[@morte2504]

I like to think Apollyon wanted to teach Heathmoor to fight people like Astrea.

[@derriquethefreak1820]

Absolutely, astrea might not be weak physically, but she is by far one of the weakest characters mentally in the story. She didn't want 2 sides fighting,she wanted the factions to fight each other.

[@Astrololo1]

yeah an emo wannabe isnt a flex at all

[@martintemplar3620]

I just want you to admit, WHAT. YOU. ARE... my... wolves

[@hanoli7933]

"ugh fine... I guess you are my little wolf, come here" Thats all i can think of now that i finished the story mode

[@johanwilliamsvonrotesfeuer645]

Thank you

[@WinterKlyfox]

Though I don't like Gryphon. You have to admit the idea for holden isn't a bad one.

[@williamvalorious4403]

Holden as a character himself is neat, the actual gameplay of said class is well question in terms of balance

[@FullAdDariusBR]

@@williamvalorious4403 He is far from strong.

[@confusedravioli2556]

@@FullAdDariusBR Now? Balanced. On release? Busted. Always remember to check when a comment was posted.

[@FullAdDariusBR]

@@confusedravioli2556 Gryphon never was busted, his shove was ass weak and his moveset was decent, but far from OP, the only OP stuffs was the delayed dodge attack (but since back then his block recovery was dumb huge, meaning he cannot block hyper armored heavies), feat 2 AOE and heal and feat 3 speed, damage, heal and AOE. His shove was "strong" because of the Option select input, as opener the shove was bad. Gryphon need buffs, he cannot compete against the actual characters, he is too far behind.

[@bluven508blaze3]

Now this....is what I wanted to know about Holden Cross and how he became the Gryphon

[@Nekomon.]

3:14 THIS! The for honor lore may sometimes have it's flaws in writing's but him originally thinking such a close minded point of view to becoming basically mr worldwide and incorporating many other cultures/factions into his repertoire of skills and language. I like this parallel cause it shows his growth as a character and made him interesting, even if he is annoying to play against in game.

[@juanpablocota9083]

This video made me like more the character of gryphon

[@Astrololo1]

you killed my tongue

[@TheAvgCrusader]

Holy Jesus - Amazing video Raven! I really hope this gains the traction that the Apollyon vs Astrea video did. It's a fantastic summary of Holden Cross and his continuing story as Olden Cru- I mean Monke- I mean... Gryphon... -that I still find so fascinating.

[@carmid7199]

What did you call me? Cause I think I heard monke

[@c4ho0t53]

@@carmid7199 lol

[@-M_-]

@@carmid7199 you are now my man, you were cool, but now you want banana

[@warlockengineer]

For honor deserves a fleshed out open world rpg

[@diegopasha5607]

Holden Cross.... The man who seek a path to move forward

[@superraijinsage746]

The answer lies... In the heart of battle

[@miimiibeschde4818]

The solution was becoming a monke

[@raw_ritz24]

Yo this was great, I would like one about Daubeny but feel like there’s not enough information

[@halfcarnage6259]

Mabey thru the comming seasons since hes now Chimeras leader

[@raw_ritz24]

@@halfcarnage6259 then I shall wait

[@-M_-]

He made recently a video about him

[@powerpope9213]

Ok, i just gotta say this: I've searched for a long time now on the internet for a good quality yt channel with For Honor content and here we are. I must say raven, you are doing your job very nicely. I love this channel (even if i don`t know stuff about Warhammer 40k). I espacilly love those story vids where you in-depth describe For Honor characters, and i hope there are more to come. Anyways, keep up the good work and see ya in another video!

[@mochathought]

Know if only his gameplay represented this

[@Silly_The_Killer]

maybe he is monke to the eye of many but in our hurts he will stay holden cross

[@Wiseonebk]

If we weren't so focused on multiplayer issues, we don't realize the gem of a game we have.

[@rockwoodzapper]

Something I feel needs to be addressed is how much of an insult Astrea's entire person is to Holden. She idolizes, glorifies and mimicks Apollyon as an outside observer, not just in person but ideology. Apollyon still had honor of a sort, and the weak who were willing to accept that they were weak would be protected under her. Astrea simply kills, indiscriminately. Seeing this sick, twisted mockery of Apollyon - I couldn't imagine it doing anything other than pissing Holden off. And now he has the opportunity to do what he should have done against the real Apollyon.

[@deenajmeri9440]

This entire video about monkey brain is very fascinating, good stuff.

[@rocco1626]

For law bringer I’m still waiting for his arm armour I like the shoulders. I believe shoalin thought him most because Monke

[@MemesArentDead]

For Honor deserves more credit than it gets The story and it’s meaning The characters The end goal Marvelous

[@poyrazacar183]

Great work as always Raven! But I'm still curious about The Warden. I know he disappeared but I want him to come back and save everyone from Astrea.... That would be a good ending for him.

[@derriquethefreak1820]

He just comes in and cuts off astreas hand right when she is about to gut holden like a fish.

[@apollyon3331]

One day I want to make a film about for honor. And if I ever even get close I want to feature a part in the film where Holden cross or gryphon is on astreas doorstep. It's a reimagining of apollyon waiting for Holden once again, gryphon is ready and a bit cocky. He thinks he will wipe out what's left of horkos how he wiped out almost all the blackstones. But the twist isn't that the warden came back the save gryphon that's to predictable. I want them to reveal at some time in the fight that the warden died long ago while he/she was on there soul search. Some horkos enforcers and astrea jumped him and tried to convert him but he stood steadfast and died fighting. Any hope gryphon had of wardens return is shattered leaving him emotionally open and unguarded alowing astrea to strike back. I'm obsessed with this crap.

[@MeisterSchwabbo]

@@apollyon3331 i fully agree, it sounds cringe but a friend of me loves to roleplay in fh and i play with him.

[@apollyon3331]

@@MeisterSchwabbo naw it's awesome bro. The lore in this game is actually quite interesting once enough research is put in.

[@MeisterSchwabbo]

@@apollyon3331 i agree, it is one of the last games where the lore actually interests me, i don't like Lord ramiel but the rest is great

[@pedromsampaio647]

"he does not belive in killing the weak" Holden killing the most fragile thing in the game: 1:36

[@Astrololo1]

astrea objects

[@khoseftadros2775]

So I'm curious, what happened to the lord Warden, did he/she just disappear or die? that'd be a shame tbh

[@aminbarray8634]

They went on a soul search according to the previous writer.

[@gabrielwilson7050]

Lore Orders say they disappeared. Nobody in lore knows where they went.

[@khoseftadros2775]

@@gabrielwilson7050 Well I want my warden back dammit, she's (since I played with female) the only one where we saw a full character arc out of in the entire story on screen.

[@gabrielwilson7050]

@@khoseftadros2775 Dude for real! I miss them so...

[@tomthestone1470]

@@khoseftadros2775 Never gonna happen. Too broad in terms of appearance, not to mention the lack of individual design.

[@dirtyd4cdeeds935]

It’s crazy how nobody cares for the story and complain about his gameplay. It’s mind boggling.

[@thatgoodolpisscrab]

it's a multiplayer game and he was broken from release, it's mind boggling how good lore can make u forget he's a broken character.

[@dirtyd4cdeeds935]

@@thatgoodolpisscrab 1. He’s not that bad anymore so people are bitching about nothing 2. Ok it’s a multiplayer game. So? What does that have to do with a Lore video about the character. Talking about his story, not his gameplay. It’s mind boggling how some people can’t differentiate

[@thatgoodolpisscrab]

@@dirtyd4cdeeds935 he's still bad man, he's definitely top 3 broken heros, and it's a multiplayer game so it's ya know smart to talk abt the game play not the fancy made up story to a fake character

[@meowmeowloverr]

Great vid raven keep up the great work and wish you well

[@hirotheog8467]

Amazing video, great job

[@abdullahwira9773]

maann... your vids is really good.... keep up man

[@tannerfinney8211]

I have to say, although the dialogue was bad and some Of the cutscenes being a bit janky - This was a very interesting and new take on story telling for Ubisoft

[@the_smittuation]

This is the story I’ve been waiting for raven! Thank you!!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@theunknownadvocate7632]

Well done, you perfectly explain Apollyon's and Holden's philosophy. The lore behind For Honor is amazing.

[@tekenaamamina273]

This video is amazing. I wish you'd do more of this type of videos

[@mrhammer2711]

Thanks to you dude I now know the multiplayer plot cause I've been playing for 2 years and still didn't know what was happening. thanks dude and keep up the good work and love your for honor content really helps

[@tekenaamamina273]

This video is amazing. I wish you'd do more of this type of video

[@TheScriptor6753]

Congrats Raven for reaching 7k

[@thewhitewolf7909]

My favorite channel I have ever come a cross

[@davidellis6656]

some pretty deep lore in the background of multiplayer heavy game and honest i love it.

[@sircarlos3707]

12:26 Beautiful quote

[@AshenRean]

These videos make me wish instead of little events we got a new story chapter each season which expands on stuff. I never realized how deep the for honor story was till watching these videos

[@Toatekaha]

Congrats on 7k my man 👍🏾👏🏾

[@Hadras7094]

I was looking forward to this

[@jaguarwarrior7627]

From lion to monke, also good video

[@baconmangaming7002]

This proves that humanity is not ready return to Monke

[@chupchupman5859]

Great video!

[@MrJohnthegamerHD]

Man, these videos make Ubisoft's game look better than it actually is. That's a sub from me, on behalf of how well you tell the lore of the game.

[@ThePanthiestPanther]

Well done!

[@cuppedcup5048]

This was so good

[@papabear4941]

Hey man. Love the content. Glad to see there is someone who’s invested in the lore like me. I was just wondering (if at all possible) you would do a video like this for ayu and stigandr. From my pov, during the secret meet-up 8 years after Apollyon’s death, judging by the vibes of the final moments of the cutscene, assassins who were loyal to Apollyon’s ideas were to kill all three. It’s obvious that Holden survived the attempt(s), but I just kept wondering what happened to the empress and the jarl. Perhaps during year 5 they’ll bring back one of them like they did Holden last year.

[@Max2ds]

Lore: A tragic warrior, now disillusioned to his core values. Forced to reshape himself. Gameplay: “Gryphon main, monkey brain”

[@xeox4280]

Get good

[@FullAdDariusBR]

I'm main Holden Cross, Lawbringer and Gryphon with pride. My favorite and the best character from For Honor.

[@darkwolf6879]

So we play as holdan again as gryphon?! O.o

[@comrademoshi1028]

with all this lore in for honor they should make a movie or a tv series/animation…. i’m sure everyone would appreciate it

[@choosinkien268]

I used to thnk the lore of gryphon was stupid and also wm but now that ive watched this video i have finnally appreciate that the lore hasnt changed at all. Although i still dont get how holden is still alive now but hey meme characters dont die i guess

[@choosinkien268]

Also i now hate Wm even more cuz she is disrespecting or misunderstandong Appolyon's moral by twisting it to her own needs

[@turtleusa353]

you make the lore actually sound cool and interesting, something ubisoft has never done at least in my opinion

[@Baldeagle-tw2nv]

Apollyon's philosophy was essentially to create a forced deterrence between all three factions after prolonged fighting. If all three factions had stayed in their peak with small scale skirmishes and engagements, Astrea and her factions would've never come into power. All three armies would've responded quickly with battle hardened warriors and troops and crushed her before anything could've happened. Sometimes being in a perpetual state of warfare on a small scale is the best way to maintain peace, because your forces are already experienced in combat and can quickly react to any threat.

[@Daubeny-pm8vk]

Very good video ! I wonder if we gonna get a story with Daubeny

[@Astrololo1]

time traveler

[@yeet_kid_7170]

This was epic

[@zero_assistance4326]

Man after reading someone's comment I really wanna play through vortigors story.

[@zutsume5375]

I love Gryphon's lore and gameplay (Don't start arguing about how i'm a low human being because you don't like Gryphon's gameplay, i'm not here for that), and this video was absolutely amazing, you might say i'm taking this a bit too seriously, but this is the shit that hyped me when i saw the trailer for the first time. Love the character, hands down my favorite hero lore wise. Great vid anyway !

[@cujo8212]

Yk you're a piece of shit for playing gryphon cuz u had to give a disclaimer 😂😂😂

[@zutsume5375]

@@cujo8212 You had to point that out... I don't feel like a piece of shit and Gryphon doesn't make me one, but fair point i guess

[@cujo8212]

@@zutsume5375 It was just jokes brother

[@zutsume5375]

@@cujo8212 That's why i said that it's a fair point and that you had to point my disclaimer out x)

[@bobjoe4414]

Hey what’s the awesome calm music you used towards the end of the video? I love the sound of it

[@doccock2115]

I still dont get why we cant have those lion shoulder plates for the multiplayer.

[@topc5091]

You can but you need to buy the gryphon bundle

[@doccock2115]

@@topc5091 but fit lb

[@booooooosh9511]

Ubi are tards there's your answer, if they weren't we'd have accurate armour for the vast majority of characters and those lion shoulder plates

[@pyrrhusofepirus8491]

Rip Davis

[@BigBroKuma]

Wow you beat me to it 😂

[@miimiibeschde4818]

"NOT FUCKING DAVIS"

[@theshadow5200]

I feel like I know why I like Holden/gryphon cause after he left Apollyon and became a mercenary fighting with other faction leaving there moves there culture and how they work me I’ve been to three different schools knew how they work the code there rights and wrongs and so I learned more just like gryphon

[@fabianwafler9869]

Did you realize that the viking who wasn’t executed by Holden is Ragnar from the viking Story?

[@fabianwafler9869]

And Ragnar did what appollyon wanted the vikings to do, to fight, to weep out the weak and destroy the freedom in valkenheim.

[@RavenKnightYT]

Yes. I remember that.

[@fabianwafler9869]

@@RavenKnightYT I love these details.

[@roogoculus2885]

He went from shob to dodge heavy Fucking character development

[@thelouster5815]

I have to commend you for making For Honor's atrocious writing sound good. That takes some serious skill!

[@SnakeLion123]

Can I ask what soundtrack or did you use and what name. I’ve tried looking but came up nothing. 10:00 12:35

[@Skyzaros]

Very well writen

[@halbarand2806]

So at the beginning of the video since I didn’t click on it, shows the captions and the way daubeny was spelt was funny

[@Mario-ll4sb]

From Lion to Monkey how interesting of an outcome.

[@xeox4280]

Get good

[@Mario-ll4sb]

@@xeox4280 ah how smart of you let me get this straight you arent good if you spam dodge havies with your gryphon aka monkey. If you play like that u kind of shouldnt pkay the game

[@xeox4280]

@@Mario-ll4sb you can block them i think. Or parry them. Its not that hard, and i dont spam anything.

[@Mario-ll4sb]

@@xeox4280 Whatever but your argument cant be just get good. U can go with you get good to hell for all i care. Yes its true u can parry them but with input delay its harder thant oh i can press heavy button to parry nope you cant cause half the time parries arent read

[@Resident_Nightlord]

oh my god...

[@Jahim-zu6wk]

That classic for honor soundtrack though

[@Astrololo1]

everyone gangsta till they start speaking enchantment table

[@Jye-cf4oh]

RIP Davis you will be miss.

[@ghostlyswat12]

Man for honor devs should hire you to tell us the lore 😅

[@Astrololo1]

🗿

[@leoestellar5232]

We desperately need an update on the story mode

[@FullAdDariusBR]

17:03 EXACTLY!!!!!

[@smittyWerbenagermanjensen]

I just noticed that was Ragnar that Apollyon spared only for him to be killed by the Player's Raider after refusing to share food and resources amongst the other clsns and work with them rather than against them.

[@miimiibeschde4818]

*Share a small Box of bread and vegetables and three barrels of potatoes

[@GameJack]

I use to think Holden’s journey to Gryphon was a bit stupid and nonsensical but this video has made me really reconsider it and Holden as a character in general. Great work! That said, there is still something about his story that doesn’t quite sit with me and I can’t pinpoint what it is exactly. Might be because I think they went a bit too far with his literal journey across the world, or that the Lord Warden was somehow the ONLY person who took his betrayal of Apollyon seriously (and then straight-up disappeared out of nowhere when Holden would have needed his support - what a guy), or it might just be some reinforcement of the fact that the original factions seemingly mean squat to the writers now, which is saddening. Although that might just all be a byproduct of my hate for the current story and what it introduced and retconned. I do not like it, at all. That being said, I’ll stick with this game until it dies (or pisses me off too much).

[@logeyperogi1805]

Holden doesn’t want peace, but he also doesn’t want war So, how can you have peace and strength? You can’t It’s quite upsetting, but also just how the world works, only those strong enough to survive will be able to, but the difference between Gryphon and Astrea is that Astrea thinks she needs to get rid of the weak, she needs to remove them all so that only the strongest thrive, but Gryphon understands that there’s strength in everyone, and that’s what the Order of Chimera uses Whereas Astrea extinguishes the dying flames of the people she hates, Gryphon fuels the flames, he brings out their strength, so that in the end they realize who they are, and what they stand for Holden didn’t just DECIDE to become Gryphon, he needed to grow, to learn, to become stronger, and he wants everyone else, those who Astrea would kill just for the hell of it, he wants those people to fight, to prove that they’re not just some weak creatures, that they’re strong and all they needed was PROPER motivation to draw out that strength The Order of Chimera uses a deer as their symbol, and Horkos uses a wolf What do wolves do? When they hunt, they go after the weakest in the herd, but what would happen if that supposedly weak deer drew out its inner strength? What if that deer fought back? They’d show their strength THIS is what Gryphon wants, he wants his herd to draw out their true strength so that if a bloodthirsty wolf comes to prove their strength, they don’t walk away easily Chimera or Horkos? I’m Chimera, I believe that true strength isn’t something you just have, TRUE strength must be built upon, and drawn out with proper motivation Gryphon’s herd of deer, and Astrea’s pack of wolves, THIS is the war, and Apollyon would cheer on Gryphon, because not only did Gryphon use her ideals and follow them, but he’d also use them for the people, he used her ideals to rally people and remove a tyrant, and Apollyon would definitely be proud

[@Astrololo1]

at last indeed

[@Vortex1yt]

Was that kyoshin at the end?

[@theslayer1652]

I just realized the guy she spared is Ragnar the guy raider kills

[@dag_will2615]

The Horkos/Chimera thing must be accidentally smart, there's absolutely zero wat they meant for the pieces to line up like this

[@bendybug]

Are any other heroes like holden? Like the same character but with a different name.

[@nathanieljernigan1147]

Did you see me lay down the law? I am the lawbringer!

[@five_bits9377]

I KNEW IT WAS HOLDEN

[@Astrololo1]

nahh

[@miimiibeschde4818]

Daubeny literally calls gryphon holden

[@mr.0474]

Damn for honor has a good story

[@IronWarrior_69]

happy day

[@The_Shadow80]

The only thing that Apollyon wanted to do is to prepare everyone if there was another caticlisim Even if it meant to kill the weak and bring in the strong EVEN IF IT MEANT WAR

[@bejeko923]

"What ?? Fight you ?? That's not a trial, that an execution..."

[@thestardustman5374]

Can we get a story mode for cent alone.

[@conorcrosbie1668]

Remember when people said the campaign in this game was 'rushed'

[@zombieboss5178]

What happened to the main Warden of the story though? (just wondering because I've heard nothing about it)

[@wl4316]

went missing, no one knows where he is.

[@Astrololo1]

season pass 172 “that guy”

[@burgermuncher8985]

From armoured lion to monke