Raw vs Nitro "Reliving The War": Episode 185 - May 17th 1999

[@marcusgray2910]

I swear to God, I will hate when the series comes to an end, there is nothing like Thursday nights with wrestling bios and reliving the war 🐺 👑

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

Well at least after 99 we’ll have 2000 a year of great and horrible.

[@TheBandit025Nova]

@@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090The Greatest gamyof hot potato

[@roryoliver6743]

Maybe a few bonus episodes for the RAW/TNA mini-war?

[@beeaveragegaming3482]

Don't worry after the scandal with Vince and Brock, the Ruthless Aggression era with Raw VS Smackdown is right around the corner 😊

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

@roninshouseofgaming Better than needing a personality.

[@melasnexperience]

"This episode of Raw also features Owen Hart's final televised match." Tearing up already, man... 🙏🖤 Can't believe it's been 25 years since he died.

[@stryker5949]

😢😢😢😢😢

[@mr.legendaryjelly]

feels like just yesterday 🥲💕

[@TheOddOne666]

Oh come on, dude. You are not "tearing up already" lol. Stop being so over dramatic lmao

[@melasnexperience]

@@TheOddOne666 First, not a dude. Second, not everyone is a callous edgy boy.

[@zebulynnhanson791]

Prayers for the Hart family

[@deedsdyt8001]

I just purchased a smokey the cat shirt. RIP Owen😢

[@RobJaskula]

Great call. Just did the same after reading your comment.

[@littlea5111]

I have a cat smokey , I love every time the bret hart clip is played

[@RobJaskula]

@@littlea5111 I had a cat named Smokey growing up too; good memories every time

[@NLaBar]

Have a jam sammie in his memory

[@deedsdyt8001]

I had a smokey myself when I was a teenager. I miss him.

[@StLounatic]

That Long Live Owen Hart sign was my sign. It's always an honor seeing Owens memory not be forgotten, and I'm glad that picture still makes rounds today to honor his legacy. Gonna be an emotional Reliving the War next week. Gonna shed some tears.

[@mentalhaze4226]

That's awesome and bittersweet at the same time. Owen was such a good soul and was taken too soon from this world. He also was a much better worker than he got credit for while still here.

[@mongomongo7664]

Next week's reliving the war will be the hardest to watch in my opinion

[@AnalogKid83]

Shane McMahon and David Flair going head to head on opposite shows? 1999 is a hell of a drug.

[@stephenblack5425]

The Undertaker being tied to his symbol and then lifted in the air and the undertaker's demonic laugh echoing in the arena along with his dark music was very very scary.

[@curthenning6833]

Can't believe that nobody mentioned rick Steiner having his beard colour the inverted of Scott's. Best attire matching of all time.

[@elec8101]

I still remember when you were covering the 1997 period. A friend of mine encouraged me to watch your videos.

[@zachsmith1634]

I’ll always wish we got to see David Flair vs Mongo McMichael. What a classic that would have been.

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

More like a reverse classic

[@zachsmith1634]

@@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090I was being sarcastic lol 😂

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

@@zachsmith1634 I know

[@olivierroy5540]

A classic for the wrong reasons

[@benziescha5438]

Up there with the Rude v Steamboat, Hart- Hogan, Shamrock-Angle classics we never got to see 😂😂

[@TheSBleeder]

This is it... This is the last time we'll see Owen Hart alive.

[@Obscusion2]

Not quite. Owen's last image alive is a pre-taped promo he does as the Blue Blazer during Over the Edge where he talks about how he'll defeat The Godfather for the IC Title. Understandably, though, WWE has never shown that footage again following that event (minus maybe the Owen documentary?), but I believe it's somewhere on KZbin.

[@jackcarraway4707]

This hit right in the feels.

[@sethkaplan]

The no mercy 1999 ladder match between edge & Christian vs the hardy boyz was the highlight of the year 😂😂

[@PhenomsServant4]

Still one of my favorite matches.

[@rdrouynriv]

Absolutely. That and the Terri Runnels invitational match.

[@InsomniacRocker]

I just watched this ppv a few weeks ago and it is fantastic!

[@That_Guy-]

Still have the VHS with its thumping house music 😂

[@ois9]

No man. YOU were the highlight of the year.

[@camschuster5947]

Gonna be a sad day when the war ends. Even though it’s about to end retrospectively. 😆

[@Calculon1712]

I remember reading that Owen Hart was supposed to have "The Game" moniker sometime after playing the Blue Blazer. I think Triple H used it as a tribute but it did help propel his career further.

[@lexkanyima2195]

Owen would have not be vicious enough

[@That_Guy-]

​@@lexkanyima2195all due respect to Owen but he couldn't pull off the tough guy look, he couldn't even grow his damn beard in

[@WesleyWilkins-qf2ky]

@That_Guy- Yeah but he did look like that azzhole from the first karate kid movie

[@truly_sonic7410]

@@WesleyWilkins-qf2kyJohnny lmao

[@JackQSmith]

​@WesleyWilkins-qf2ky I saw an AI image a few months ago of what Owen would look like today if he didn't pass away. It 100% looked like what Johnny Lawrence currently looks like on Cobra Kai

[@StnkTrek]

"Robinson wrestled his second match one week later, teaming with Flair to face Randy Savage and Madusa on an episode of WCW Monday Nitro. In the course of the match, Savage delivered a botched diving elbow drop to Robinson, cracking several of his vertebrae and collapsing his lung." From li'l Naytch's wikipedia

[@steve2372]

Damn!!

[@RoberKing92]

Well this is it in the reliving the war timeline. The final week of Owen Hart life and no one knows it yet

[@MaynardOwns]

Russo knew it

[@press_x_tojason]

@@MaynardOwnslook, I HATE Russo, he is responsible for a degree of irreparable harm done to wrestling. He treated the wrestlers like jokes in service of his own ego, and did not give a damn about their safety. That’s all true. But even I am not going to allege that he intended for what happened to Owen to happen, directly or otherwise.

[@smallies7154]

Owen should have just done the cheating girlfriend angle with Debra and Jarrett and told his wife to butt out. She is the one who got him put him back in the blue blazer gimmick. All because her posh friends looked down on wrestling.

[@olivierroy5540]

@@MaynardOwnswe can all agree that Russo is an ass but there was no way that he or anyone else working in creative at the time would of thought an accident like this would happen.

[@truly_sonic7410]

@@smallies7154yea I really wish he just went with that storyline it would’ve been perfect for the attitude era anyway plus kinda like a pre Matt Hardy, Edge and lita thing

[@zacharyscott6779]

Charles Robinson MUST be a DLC character in the next WWE2K game. 99 overall stats included.

[@eddie9244]

Been loving this channel For 4 years !!! Thank you for what you do !

[@kristimccabe8288]

Same!

[@rdrouynriv]

The Hardyz vs Edge and Christian feud would be one of the high points of 1999 WWF. Looking forward to reliving it.

[@Machete87]

the Dudleyz are going to be debuting very soon. but not til the start of APA.

[@rdrouynriv]

@@Machete87 I don't think they debut until the end of the year. Probably around October or November.

[@rauladdams5709]

Donating to the Owen Hart Fund is probably the most jam-up thing I've ever seen from you and your channel. Truly exceptional. Stay safe and sane, Brother.

[@NotScrubNotGood]

Will be my first time seeing Over The Edge since live in May 99. Im sure there are many just like me who will be there. 👊 For covering it. Double 👊👊 for donating revenue during this period to be the Owen Hart Foundation!!

[@Drummer8282]

Curt Hennig may have stalled for most of his matches due to that back injury that forced him out of the ring in ‘92

[@TheSBleeder]

Shawn Stasiak's "Meat" gimmick is that of a guy who's basically forced into "performing" for the P.M.S. stable. Gee, I wonder who came up with that gimmick...

[@BlakOwlEntertainment]

Couldn't even tell you, Bro...

[@jeremyburnet4855]

It’s amazing to look at the rosters even in 1999 and say that top-to-bottom WCW still probably has more star power, and workhorse wrestlers. WWFs top heels have either never been in a PPV main event (HHH) or are injured (Taker) BUT they have absolute peak Austin and Rock. Goes to show how important booking with logic and continuity is.

[@perfectblindguy]

And don't forget Godfather, he was major over for a while. But then again WCW screwed up with Kanyon. Kanyon was major over but WCW didn't know what to do with him.

[@Card_lol]

It's gonna be a rough couple of weeks considering the grim events that take place over that stretch of time. RIP Owen

[@WickedFireBird69]

With all the crazy news of the last week, I'm so happy to escape back to a time when all that mattered in the wrestling world was "The War." Thank you for this series and all your work you put into it! It is truly an eacape.

[@kingbaby8761]

I came earlier than hogan trying to throw that hadouken at warrior.

[@benziescha5438]

Messy as some of this was, just watched the royal rumble this weekend and it's a definite palat cleanser after that 😂 no legends in the event despite it being so packed with kick specialists and islanders, I'd have put money on Tajiri and Prince Iaukea showing up

[@johnlucas1543]

The last week of (relative) innocence. Whew. I am NOT ready for the next 2 episodes of Reliving the War. But we have to be brave & get through them. R.I.P. to Owen James Hart.

[@LiquidScorpion]

I’m calling it now. We need you to do a VERY thorough doc on Vince McMahon. Come up with something EPIC that Netflix or Vice wouldn’t be able to do. Discuss everything from his childhood up until now with what’s happening; God got revenge on him for beating him at Backlash. That would be a doc you can bring justice to. You also do other smaller docs on Vince too that points to very specific points in his life. Cmon!

[@johnblack8371]

Ryan apologising for being slightly less awesome this week is why this whole endeavour is a work of perfection. I just think you're amazing.

[@MrPiragon]

Thanks for doing the series even if you're not feeling great it's super appreciated

[@TimTE01]

No mention of Robinson being injured when he took that elbow hard? Basically he got crushed under Randy. I can’t blame him for not really wrestling again after that.

[@RomeoCastro-hg5np]

I thought yesterday was Thursday, I was waitin for this video all day 😂

[@Jim-xt8pm]

Done that a few times. I'll keep checking and then 9pm or so it clicks

[@SuperjoeV1]

Well, time to begin the saddest three episodes of the series.

[@michaelreich4827]

Im about to head into Pyongyang for a week of rest and relaxation.....and no contact with the outside world. I'm downloading as many RtW episodes as possible.

[@AJtheBlue18]

Stay safe man

[@benzinoify]

Purely story line wise and away from real life, but in hindsight as dirty as wcw did Bret, Owen should have at least had a one off title win at the 98 rumble rather than putting over the bosses midcard son in law and the horrid blazer stuff.

[@JimK2112]

That Over the Edge PPV review is gonna have me in tears, Wrestling Bios.

[@sethkaplan]

A dark day in wrestling 😢

[@gumdeo]

@@sethkaplan One of the darkest...

[@Aslaug75]

I started watching this around episode 3, caught up on the first couple of episodes and stuck with it since. Thank you for this series, for your lovely sense of humour and the deep respect you show to the talent who put their bodies on the line over the years. I have genuinely been dreading the next few episodes ... like so many others ... but I have absolute faith that you will do it in a way that is even more respectful than anything the WWE themselves would do. Thank you, sir.

[@crapsmalloy7273]

It makes sense to divide the two episodes next week, for there is no war next week. The guns lay silent on both sides in respect. RIP Owen Hart. We still miss you.

[@Fantropolis]

I like how you are handling this Owen situation. Much respect.

[@michaelaburns734]

There we go another exciting episode of RTW and unfortunately we know what's next. 😪

[@TheSBleeder]

Yep. This is it. Gonna be tough watching the next few videos.

[@willkayl8793]

You don’t owe us anything. You certainly can take a week off from posting for your own health.

[@Kyo_theTowaSimp]

It may just be my American ears, but you sound fine, man. Your overall work for the wrestling community is greatly appreciated! Keep on killin' it, Bios!

[@RobJaskula]

These episodes are reminding me about how 'over' wrestling I was heading into summer break in 1999. I know WWF got me back with Jericho's debut in August, but man I had no interest in this Union/Ministry stuff at ALL. I honestly watched more WCW if anything at all around this time - I do remember my brother and I absolutely loving the Little Naitch matches and that Lex Luger was back.

[@truly_sonic7410]

That Owen incident should’ve never happened man that’s definitely the death in wrestling that hits the hardest cuz he still had a lot left to show before he retired

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

😢

[@ryankeefe2102]

Exactly I mean let's be honest a lot of wrestler deaths had to do with their outside the ring habits (still sad not dismissing it) but Owen's was 100 percent avoidable

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@ryankeefe2102 that's why martha made them pay

[@g-dub5272]

Nash had no business being Champ 🤦🏾‍♂️…but I guess that worked for him brother

[@grahambarlow9415]

Steiners vs Sting and Luger.... getting mega nostalgia for Superbrawl I!!!

[@Naif19th]

Knowing soon we won’t be seeing Owen anymore in the vids , it’s heartbreaking 💔 😢

[@AmazingGuy13]

Triple H debuts his sledgehammer

[@XpappaedgeX]

I'll be there for the Over The Edge episode. But I am going to need tissues when I do. Thank you for making it. I'm sorry you have to deal with this tragedy while keeping us entertained with wrestling highlights. We ALL appreciate you!

[@quietdignityandgrace]

Why isn't Russo in prison? Not over the whole Owen thing, just on principal.

[@albertschaf6985]

Lots of future world champs this week Edge, Christian, Hardys, Trips, Booker T, Mysterio, Benoit, Scott Steiner, Big Show, JBL, Vince (lol),

[@PeterHowe228]

May 17, 1999: The Hardy Boyz and Michael Hayes vs The Brood. May 17, 2009: Judgment Day PPV: Matt Hardy is challenging in a 4-way for the US Title. Christian is defending the ECW title against Jack Swagger and Edge is defending the World Heavyweight title against Jeff Hardy

[@ryankeefe2102]

You think that's wild check this out Jeff won his first world title from Edge Jeff lost it back to edge with Matt helping Edge Christian won his first (wwe) world title with an assist from Edge (Im including the Dudleys in this now) Bully Ray beat Jeff for his first world title Matt won his first world title with Jeff as the ref Edge won and lost his first AEW singles belt to Christian

[@DasKame]

13:00 WCW is some "smart" Company: They had 20 BILLION Wrestlers under Contract, and who is Wrestling? The Son of Ric Flair, a Referee and a Trainer. Who needs Perry Saturn, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guerro or even Scott Putski

[@tomneff7102]

I'll see you Sunday, my brother. Is it a nice, warm, feel good event? Of course not. But it is a significantly important part of the history you so brilliantly have chronicled. We don't just look back at history for the good times. Sometimes, we gotta learn about the tragic things that happened along the way to get us from there to here. Keep up the superb work!

[@kevindaniels5425]

Man i don't understand why they had to have him come from the ceiling could u imagine the Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit Kurt Angle matches RIP 👑 KING OF HARTS OWEN Hart💯🙏🙏💪

[@cgrooney9945]

I don't think we should put such a negative context on next episode. It was a tragedy and in memory of Owen I think it's important it gets cover. I was watching that PPV, I'll never forget that night. I understand from your side it's not the most comfortable to cover, especially fitting in this "reliving the war " format but I think I can speak for many when I say we appreciate you covering it and it's important for Owens memory.

[@kristimccabe8288]

Silver fox Bishchoff.. 😉😂

[@stepforwardentertainment715]

There’s a lot that can/could be said about Owen Hart as a performer, and this series has highlighted a lot of things about Owen I didn’t know. I was a WCW mark back then so I tended to shun the WWF back then and I only popped in every now and again. Seeing his career highlighted here on RTW has seriously shown why he was one of the best in the business, and makes what happens next in the timeline even more tragic to me. While I know you and many others aren’t looking forward to this, I know that you are going to handle the whole thing with respect and care for the memory of Owen Hart. Owen would want his story told as it happened, so that people wouldn’t forget. It’s understandable why WWE will never show Over the Edge on the network but what happened, did happen, and it left an impact on the business itself in its wake. Let us all give this a watch with dedication to the memory of Owen Hart. He wasn’t a nugget. He was so much more. Edit: I wasn’t aware that Over the Edge was available on WWE network until seeing the video for it. However terrible it is, I think it’s very dishonorable of WWE to basically treat Owen as a wrestler who left for another company when showing this show by erasing Jarrett’s comments, Road Dogg’s pre promo comments, or Rock’s comments during his match. Again, I don’t understand why WWE doesn’t treat Owen with more love and respect even 25 years after his passing. I feel that he deserved so much more.

[@ExtremeEgg80]

HHH Went from the pants to the shorts, that was the true changing point in his career. It seemed to be a thing with a lot of wrestlers I've noticed over time.

[@MR.__G]

It was really a significant change. I remember seeing him come out and he had a different aura. It caught me by surprise since not too long before that he was known as Shawn’s sidekick

[@RottenPopReviews]

When I was a kid I was really expecting Kane to come out in green and black Kane gear. Like a DX variation. It never happened but it did in my No Mercy game. Lol

[@jamiewiesner135]

The Over the Edge review is going to be hard to get through I know it.

[@BOABModels]

12:14 Is the Smoking Skull belt photoshopped here or something? Doesn't look like SCSA is really holding it

[@shawn9753]

Can you please do TNA vs Raw after this series? PLEASE !!!!!

[@ReaperX7]

Buddy, as much as he was a jobber, was a real talent. Even if he was never mainstream, or really won any matches, he honestly deserves a feature episode at some point for his work. He honestly helped make champions and made good talent great.

[@bencross3759]

Heart breaking to see Owen heart’s last match still very much remember watching over the edge with my uncle! RIP Owen heart!

[@DemonPE]

You do nothing wrong by covering Over the Edge, it's part of the history and we already know time was coming. Owen was my childhood hero and i'm not truly hyped to watch him "die again", however all stuff should be included on the series, this is part of everything and must be done. Again thank you for what you always do for us.

[@Saddison01]

I would just like to declare that I am also the president of WCW

[@mongomongo7664]

Nooooooòo sting white boots are gone 😂

[@chrisbelos2834]

the amount of cleavage and big racks are over the top this week . WCW really went all-in on that back in 99. sad i missed it

[@dustinparker9456]

With the news of all the Vince stuff this week. When looking back during the war and even after when it comes to all the stuff with the women’s talent and story lines. I’m not surprised that these ideas are Vinces fantasies he is using in business.

[@Kingof69ner]

You didn't do UK's version of No Mercy or at least do that PPV rather than Over The Edge

[@arlibrarian]

I understand the dread to review Over the Edge, but I’m glad you’re doing it. We’ve seen a lot of first hand wrestler and commentator reflections on the night, I think it appropriate for someone to finally attempt a respectful fan review of what, unfortunately, is one of the most significant PPV events in wrestling history.

[@dmitriymiretskiy717]

this was it. the undertaker vs. rock match was whst got me into wrestling I recall thinking how weird the names were such as the rock, triple h, and undertaker but I loved the action and the casket spot

[@aaronjumpp8990]

the LOD wrestled the nasty boys on the Arsenio Hall late night talk show for the wwf tag team titles. that's the first wrestling match ever on a late night talk show

[@aealum2004]

Could you do a video on the jersey triad of DDP, Bam Bam Bigelow, and Kanyon.

[@nicktaylor2657]

They missed the opportunity for a T-shirt by PMS You can't beat our Meat 😊

[@Lexman509]

Eric Bischoff: "Hey, I'm not a sleazy guy. No lawsuits. No criminal charges. I'm a nice guy." :)

[@Machete87]

Robinson looks like he had a ball wrestling. Charles must had a bit more training than David😅

[@jakepearl9919]

Show the ppv bro... I support you and this channel so I'd be honored to watch what you do with the sensitive show

[@sfvoyeur1]

By this point in the "war", there weren't enough beers and bong hits to make Nitro watchable

[@AmazingGuy13]

Lol when Rock kicks Undertaker back down

[@renatop2610]

So many mixed feelings this week. Thrilled to see the first Hardys/E&C encounter and the first seeds of “The Game” but also very uneasy of what’s coming on Sunday. I have not seen Over the Edge 99 or any videos about it (except for that Darkside of the Ring episode) for quite a while now but here we go…

[@thecalibratedsuperstarslic4284]

There is no other programming out there that is as good or more in depth with wrestling's past than Wrestling Bios!!!!

[@hairball178]

Does it seem like fans try to jump Randy Savage in the ring more than any other wrestler?

[@dirk8449]

It always pissed me off, they never made Owen a more serious character on raw after Bret left. It was the perfect setup for a great character, but I'm sure he was being punished by Vince.

[@Ghostie____]

I remember hearing that it was planned to give Owen "The Game" gimmick that was eventually given to HHH

[@godfather71190]

He did briefly in 97 and 98 for a few months.

[@dirk8449]

@@godfather71190 yes, I know. I'm well aware of the blackheart story.. The emphasis is on the word "briefly"

[@MackTatum]

Owen...

[@MedalWelder]

Why tf is DDP wearing a Hollywood Squares hat?lol

[@Usedplungerstotheface]

Michael PS Hayes took more bumps in that one match than he did in his entirety in NWA... the nod to the eliminators was pretty nice

[@AquamentusLives]

Man, I can’t wait until the Corporate Ministry stuff is over.

[@jamiewiesner135]

Too much union and corporate ministry stuff on WWF TV in 1999

[@kcjustice08]

I appreciate the genuine sensitivity that you are approaching these RTVs and lead up to Over The Edge. We've suffered through some deaths during this series, few as impactful in my mind as Owen's. Thanks, WB.

[@nickdeavers5816]

You are going to do it justice don't fret we all trust you and you are definitely doing right with the donations.

[@Deacfreak2007]

Wonder what that Bret - Nash feud was like in the multiverse?

[@jim1242]

One of Owen's final matches was a dark match against Kurt angle (who was getting ready for debut later in the year). I beleive this was on 10th May 1999 , Shotgun Saturgay. Other than 1 photo, no footage has never been released of this match.

[@mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854]

*~REST IN PEACE~* *~OWEN JAMES HART~* *~1965-1999~*

[@henrygvidonas9573]

As tragic as the Owen thing is, I personally don't find seeing Macho Man the way he looks in this video much easier, either. Two times the size he was in the WWF, three times the size he was in the 1970s, and with a beet-red head as if he could explode from hypertension at any second. Look at him here in 1999 and tell me you're _surprised_ he didn't make it to 60... I get that the circumstances of Owen's death make it feel more _immediate,_ for a lack of a better term - but we're looking at human beings who died way too young because of what the wrestling business is and what it does to people in various ways, every week. And some of them we don't even know about at all. Emiko Kado died as the direct result of something that happened in the ring, the month before Owen. She got hit in the head and died in the hospital, nine days later. The same month Rick Rude died while trying to get back into "ring shape", whatever _that_ meant in the '90s, apparently trying to get "cut" with GHB. I don't know even know where I'm going with this. The last week has just made it so clear again what a disgusting, filthy cesspool and bone mill pro wrestling is - and that almost nothing is better in it now than it used to be 25 years or 40 years ago.

[@kiereanm3254]

The culture of the industry was/is toxic and definitely contributed to a lot of self destructive habits without a doubt. So many people struggling with addictions and health issues brought on by their involvement that cut their lives short. While Owen’s death was an avoidable accident so was Macho’s eventual decline, Rick Rude’s health rapidly deteriorating, Scot Hall’s alcoholism destroying his life, etc. It’s sad to see

[@RedRocV]

I would normally not watch Over the Edge, when I went back and checked everything the WWF had to offer, I skipped this and the memorial show because it is tough after sitting through all of Owen's WWF career (and some outside stuff too). But, I think that with your commentary over this, it might be the right time to look at this... once. It's just like the Pillman stuff, I don't want to see or talk about people's deaths, but again, this is an exception because RTW has been such an amazing series. If I had the money, I'd definitely buy a shirt to donate, it sucks that I'm a bit tight right now though...

[@frankyturrizo4240]

Do a limited series of the Thursday Night War . Maybe the best 8 episodes