BFS Reel Comparison: Daiwa China Salamandura Air TW vs Daiwa USA Tatula BF70

[@JoeHazlet]

I am so glad you have a lot of followers. Because you do these casting demos and put out such good info, so if someone wants to get a new rod or reel the have alot of info to make an educated purchase and be happy with it and injoy their fishing adventures more. Thank you for your educational videos. Be blessed. My friend.

[@rawrfishing]

Thank you very much! I hope these would definitely be helpful to the fishing community :)

[@pequenioedgarito3067]

Jim. I own the Daiwa SV TW 70 and the SV TW80. By far the best baitcasting reel for power finesse. Extreme smoothness and quiet yet also powerful for landiing big ass Bass. On BFS reels, the drag click on the Ark Gravity BFS reel by far is great and does help with how much drag is needed much like an audible alarm. I love the drag clicking but also fancy.

[@rawrfishing]

@@pequenioedgarito3067 Daiwa is amazing with their reels. What weight ranges are u using for those two reels?

[@pequenioedgarito3067]

@ on Daiwa: 1/8 ounce or sometimes a 4 inch unweighted Senko. Other times a 1/8 keitech jig with 2.8 inch seimbait. On the Ark: mule, fishing jigs with 1/16 ounce mule fishing jig with Donkey Tail Jr.

[@scottstieber1498]

Hey Jimbo, Great Review !!! TW-80 (w/BFS spool), Alphas 800-S (factory shallow spool), & Salamandura SV TW 70... I own all three and that's directly related to your reviews/tests !! I added a drag clicker alarm to the TW-80, & the 800-S, of course the Salamandura has a factory clicker !! I couldn't be happier with my selections. the TW-80 is on a Phenix Feather 7' 1" FTX-71L (light) rod, the 800-S is on a Fenwick Elite Bass 6' 10" m/l rod, and the Salamandura is on a Fenwick Techna PX 6' 10" m/l rod. these 3 combos offer a lot more versatility than one might think !! Anyways, keep up the Great Work !! And Thanks !! for all the insight !!!

[@rawrfishing]

Thx! Daiwa got great reels. I hope more ppl try the alphas SV tw 800s!

[@mattcampbell3876]

Good video, been excited for this one! I would say a few years ago I would have preferred drag clickers but now that Im extremely comfortable with baitcasters I think on lite applications I would take drag clicks but anything but bfs I think no drag clicks, appreciate your videos man!

[@rawrfishing]

Thx man! I think some folks are moving towards less clicker for the non UL/L side like me! We shall see. So far some of the seasoned bfs anglers are the same way. Some still want it. Some want it on everything lol. That said, it tough to be a company and cater to everyone!

[@kennethfriedl3428]

Great video. Very informative. I would like to add that even if they appear to be based on the same frame they are not. One is TATULA 70 and the other is Alphas 800. That’s why the spool shaft configuration is different. Personally, the benefits from one vs the other in a bait finesse situation are marginal at best. All my reels are equipped with drag alarms so it’s a no brainer for me, plus with money you save you can get an aftermarket spool and still have money leftover for buying some baits. To click or not to click. That is the question…🧐

[@rawrfishing]

Thank you! Yeah the drag.. Definitely personal preference. But if the community pushed for it... I will certainly let Daiwa know!

[@markuskuebler9294]

Jimmy you are everywhere, now as new Daiwa endorser! 😂

[@rawrfishing]

Lol, I am working with other folks behind the scenes. But can't share yet due to NDA that I signed. It's great not to be tied down via a brand!

[@abelabner]

Nice comparison and education to help people make an educated buying decision. I myself prefer Shimano BFS reels for hooking into decent 5-7LB FL Bucketmouth's and they have smooth clicking drag systems. I personally get jacked up when that clicker smoothly buzzes as those bigger Bass make runs and I love it. I do think if I were to get a Daiwa reel I would prefer the Tatula BFS BF70 however I would want a clicker, also realizing it is a personal choice.

[@rawrfishing]

Thanks, love to share what I find so that folks can decide what they wanna get! Also I try to let brands know what the community want as well!

[@MonkeyD.Mitchell]

Needs a drag clicker on the Daiwa Tatula BFS 70. I want a Saltist 70 then just get an after market spool for BFS, probably be a good ideal and more bulletproof than both the reels in this video.

[@rawrfishing]

U got an aftermarket bfs spool recommendation for these reels that got dynamic braking?

[@TTangOutdoors]

Thanks for showing the detailed difference in the inductor position. I wonder how the Tatula SV 70 compares with the Salamandura SV 70 inductor position? I also feel my Salamandura 70 blow up easily but I don't have the Tatula 70 to compare to. Another great video man!

[@rawrfishing]

U are welcome! I should check the spools lol if the SV TW 70! Lol

[@noobpyrotech9991]

I would go with Salamandura and I like the drag clicker. When I BFS I tend to go UL. I rarely cast anything over 1/8. I tend to stick to 1/16 and under. If I am fishing with lures or setups over 1/8 I tend to use any kind of bait caster. I agree with you on the uses for the clicker on the Salamandura. When I am using light line and lures I like the drag clicker feedback so I can finesse/fight the fish better ran than crank/winch the fish in with a non BFS reel. It just comes down to what style or mood you want to fish.

[@rawrfishing]

Don't forget location as well. Distance could be something someone may need to catch fish in specific waters!

[@greggcorbett9344]

I prefer the smoothness of non drag clicker reels...

[@rawrfishing]

Thx for sharing

[@TheSk8deshtruction]

No drag clicker ftw! I want minimal noise distracting me from the symphony of nature. 😜

[@rawrfishing]

@@TheSk8deshtruction I am on the fence! Heavier fishing, don't really want it. Finesse, I'd love it but won't be a deal breaker for me if it doesn't

[@slacknfisherman]

They're simply different reels for different markets. The solution is to get both, haha. Drag clicker is nice to have but I would be fine either way.

[@rawrfishing]

Exactly, that's why I wanted to clear things up. It wasn't just a simple rebranding and taking away the drag clicker. It's more than that! I can use both reels for what they are made for indeed! I fish many styles and I can see where both would shine.

[@slacknfisherman]

@@rawrfishing I have a Salamandura Air TW arriving soon, haha. My collection keeps growing. Can't wait to get it out to our trout streams.

[@rawrfishing]

Enjoy and have fun! Spring is here and lotsa fishing to do!

[@rossionq110]

Diawa Tatula BF70 or the Ark Gravity BFS for 1/8 and up, Thanks

[@rawrfishing]

Bf70 since spool is larger.. It will cast further for those who wanna throw heavier lures. But how heavy are we talking about?

[@rossionq110]

Up to 1/4 ounce.

[@rossionq110]

No more than 1/4 ounce.@@rawrfishing

[@rawrfishing]

The bf70 would do better for distance a tad bit, but ark should be able to do that if distance isn't an issue. Alternatively, the Daiwa Alphas SV TW 800S!

[@ronfrederick9983]

If I have the choice I will always prefer to have a clicker. It helps me to more accurately set my drag.

[@rawrfishing]

Getting a scale helps even better! Set it to like 25 percent of your line rating when rod is like 45 degrees or something like that

[@pampeesantiago77]

lol new drinking game every time rawr says mmmmm k you drink a shot

[@rawrfishing]

How many shots u drank and what drink did u have with u watch time u play? Sake?

[@FreedomFishing]

If the 2 reels are so close in components, are the drag discs and clicker interchangeable, to where someone could buy the part and install it to make their drag click?

[@rawrfishing]

Yes! It's likely same internals. The question is, where do u get the parts for the China reel?

[@FreedomFishing]

​@@rawrfishing did it come with a parts diagram with part numbers? Theres gotta be a way to locate one.

[@rawrfishing]

@@FreedomFishing yes but where can u get it from? Daiwa China is not gonna sell us anything lol...

[@FreedomFishing]

@@rawrfishing possibly plat co.

[@rawrfishing]

I doubt it unless the Japanese Tatula BF 70 will have a drag clicker. But if they can get Daiwa China and Japan stuff.. Would be amazing!

[@ichphan]

Daiwa should offer people the choice on the drag clicker or NOT like Kast King did with Zypher BFS reel.

[@rawrfishing]

Kastking originally didn't give the drag clicker to the zephyr without my intervention. At that time, hundreds of silent reels were available. So they offered both until no more silent zephyr were available.

[@agonzalez8924]

Traditional bass fishing baitcasters don't have drag clicking, so to me it is its weird to desire that on a baitcaster. I think quiet is better. Spinning reels do, and if bfs wants to borrow the fishing style from bass baitcasters then it shouldn't have drag clicking. If you like drag clicking then pick up a spinning reel.

[@rawrfishing]

I love the Tatula BF 70! Won't be using it for the UL stuff like in trout streams, so I am happy with out it. But we can't tell ppl go for a spinning setup. Defeats the purpose of what I have been pushing! They should simply just get another reel!plenth of bfs reels with clickers like the amazing ark Gravity bfs reel!

[@ConTheDon187]

when you say it blew up casting a heavy lure, you mean it just knots up and doesn't cast?

[@rawrfishing]

Yes! Birds nests easier

[@markfodran529]

Must have a drag clicker!!!!!

[@rawrfishing]

Click click click!

[@gerlor9425]

So what line, rod, lure weights do you use your alpha 800s for? I've own it for close to 2 years I want to like it but it's a noisy caster.

[@rawrfishing]

Right now it's on my Cashion icon salt finesse with 1 gou line. Last used via surf fishing

[@rawrfishing]

I throw 1/8th to 1/4 oz max jigs plus some sort of plastic... Usually fluke style

[@matthewcove8597]

I wish I had a drag clicker on all my reels

[@rawrfishing]

@@matthewcove8597 the Tatula? Idk? Lol it was smoother without it! But if u like it, hope Daiwa would change that!

[@ichphan]

Kind of like a Toyota Supra and BMW Z4....sane engine and body just rebrand it. BMW has some luxury interiors.

[@rawrfishing]

Precisely!

[@trickytrav88]

Thanks for the vid its crazy the diffrence in casting . ...Lol 😂 those young kids are little booger factories thats a fact. I get sick everytime im around my girls sister and her kids.

[@rawrfishing]

thx man! yeah those buggers are bug carriers and spreaders haha

[@danspanos]

Are the Tatula bf70 and tw sv 70 different, or the same reel?

[@rawrfishing]

Same frame, but parts slightly different

[@bgeezus3955]

Has anyone put the bf70 spool into the salamandura?

[@rawrfishing]

@@bgeezus3955 other Than showing it here.... I haven't swapped it for fishing

[@bgeezus3955]

@@rawrfishing im on the hunt for 3 reels right now to cover the 3 ranges. I have an ark gravity bfs currently. I'd probably just get another gravity bfs to cover the mid and heavy range bfs lures but im stumped on something with a drag clicker to throw flies for trout/panfish. Do you have any suggestions on a reel like that?

[@rawrfishing]

I would suggest Ark Gravity bfs for UL side and something like curado bfs or Tatula BF 70 for L and ML applications due to the spool size difference.

[@bgeezus3955]

@rawrfishing any suggestions on a good rod for the gravity bfs to flick them flies around? Also have you heard of/tried the pure feather miiec dc reel?

[@rawrfishing]

I am currently using the Major Craft Trapara for throwing jigs down to 0.9g. I am currently not in the market for CDM reels. I have worked hard to bring bait finesse to the US Market and now it is here... Imma spend more time with reels available in the US. And while yen is down... It's a great opportunity to explore better built reels at amazing prices.

[@yudiajj5475]

Tatula tw80 or tatula tw100

[@rawrfishing]

80 for ML, M and MH, 100 for M, MH and H

[@Demolitiondude]

Coming this summer. Daiwa: civil war.

[@rawrfishing]

Lol pros VS consumers

[@UBWR2022]

Did u paint your salamandura black ?

[@rawrfishing]

Came like that

[@L0st-n0found]

Hate drag clicker only use is not paying attention to a live bait reel waiting for sound of fish taking bait. I fish to have peace and serenity not annoying sounds. Love the color of salamandura hate the tatula color. Hate the salamandura costing more Not sure why bfs people using such high test line.. .2

[@rawrfishing]

The Tatula need some spicing up for colors huh?

[@kcnwea]

drag clicker all the way

[@rawrfishing]

Thx for letting us know!

[@JeramAnglers]

Hey we need clickers!!!!

[@rawrfishing]

@@JeramAnglers tell em Daiwa USA folks! Voice out! I will talk to a few at icast... I will show em all these comments voting for clickers!