Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc (Xbox/GCN/PS2) - Still Good? - IMPLANTgames

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In today’s video I dive in and take a look to see if Rayman 3 for the Xbox, PlayStation 2, and GameCube is still good. Enjoy!

[@daxteryvillencourt9048]

22:05 That's...that's not Leptys.It's Reflux and Andrè with Leptys' scepter. Just wanted to say that...

[@implantgames]

Pinned.

[@daxteryvillencourt9048]

implantgames The greatest achievement of my life (thus far)

[@DISTORTEDMACHINE]

18:53 "Unfortunately, there is no easy way to identify where threats are." ...There's a large mini-map of the boat with red icons showing incoming enemies right there on the bottom left side of the screen.

[@Master_3530]

I din't have any combat issues on keyboard. It was a satisfying bullet hell experience.

[@chrisr529]

Master3530 what game are you speaking of " bullet hell " is a term you used and this game is nothing of the such

[@Master_3530]

Chris R You're being surrounded and shot?

[@FrameRater]

Wow, you didn't like the combat? That might be my favorite part of this one. It always feels very satisfying to me. Though... you don't really take me as the type to really enjoy that sort of thing anyways. You don't really do shooters, do you? I guess that's where my appreciation for it comes from. Anyways, great review as always.

[@FrameRater]

Also, "flying enemies require a curved punch" ... all enemies require a curved punch. Hoodlums will twirl their guns at you which makes them dodge your punch. I'm not sure why you said that given in your footage you're doing curved punches even against land enemies (as you should be).

[@FrameRater]

"Most enemies need to be hit with a charged punch", no...?

[@implantgames]

I enjoy first person shooters, I've reviewed a few on the channel: Halo, Dead Man's Hand, Darkwatch, Black, Land of the Dead, even bad ones like Classified: The Sentinel Crisis. Glad you enjoyed the video! However not all enemies required a curved punch. Many land enemies can be hit with a charged fist which is useful if you want to jump their attack rather than strafe (like during The Machine). And of course most of them can be kicked.

[@FrameRater]

Hmm... well maybe a charged hit can bypass the weapon spin, I've never tried that since it's easier to just do a curve. Also yeah, I just realized that you also do shooters. Hmm. Well, good video anyhow.

[@contrabandresearch8409]

Any other reviews of FPS games coming? Your review of Sentinel Crisis is one of your best.

[@EWToonsInColor]

During combat you're supposed to jump and roll to evade projectiles, which is what makes it so fun, and I didn't see you do much of that in the footage. That said the game never teaches you those moves, similar to most of Jak and Daxter's moveset.

[@bigcade554]

I personally love Rayman 3 nearly as much if not just as much as 2. While the combat isn't great, there's at least a bit more variety than 2 had in terms of the enemies; the alternate gameplay segments also do a mostly (crazy shoe) good job of mixing things up without overstaying their welcome, and in general the game felt somewhat more challenging than 2. It's just a shame that we still haven't gotten a 3D follow up. There was the outsourced Rayman 4 which was cancelled and of course Raving Rabbids which was inexplicably morphed into a minigame collection. At least Ancel has said he wants to make another one when he's finished with BG&E2, whenever that is...

[@CybeleVG]

I think saying "it's better than the snowboarding in Sonic 06" could be said to make literally any game play sound appealing.

[@ketrub]

TheChimchan sonic unleashed's werehog is better than the snowboarding in sonic 06

[@RetroGamePlayers]

Damn you are on a roll! The Rayman series really was a lot of fun, what a bizarre and crazy world he lives in.

[@FastTquick]

Rayman 3 is definitely a better game than most people give it credit for. The platforming is just as flawless as the previous game and the level design is excellent. While the combat is a bit sloppy, I love how the new powerups spice it up a bit and keep it from being too shallow. However, I do agree that the game has fundamental flaws. I think the game's biggest problem is the game's change in tone from dark and whimsical to light-hearted and comedic. Some of the jokes like the references to video games do hit home, but the game's attempts at adult humor like some of Andre's taunts to Rayman and the witch boss's references to bondage at the end of the Bog of Murk level feels out of place in a Rayman game. I'm also not a fan of how the scoring system works in the game and how you unlock minigames. Finding ways to do platforming as fast and precise and maximizing the time on your powerups to collect gems as quickly as possible to get a high score can make gameplay satisfying more difficult, but it becomes frustrating when you try to unlock the last few minigames by getting the highest scores on each and every level in the game. As for the minigames themselves, they're a mixed bag. A few of them such as the balloon platforming game and the FPS target shooting game with Count Razoff can be fun, but the rest of them control poorly and are just not fun to play in general. By the way, the GameCube version has one extra minigame that requires people to hook up a Game Boy Advance to their GameCube for cooperative play. However, considering you need those things to even play the game, it's just not worth it. Finally, if I've got some extra info on the different versions of Rayman 3, I'd choose going for the 6th-gen originals over the HD editions on Xbox 360 and PS3. Though the graphics in the HD editions are a bit improved, there are some noticeable control and graphical glitches one would notice if they'd played the originals. In one particular example, the textures on the pirate models in the infamous Last Supper easter egg are practically broken. Ubisoft also took out some of the fairy's dialogue featuring her saying "Oh my god!"

[@MaximeFrjq]

I recommend playing it on PC, because the controls felt just perfect, and pressing several buttons at the same time weren't close to being as sloppy as on the console (+ iirr you didn't mention the "rolling" move that's pretty cool in combat). I also think Rayman 3 is being disregarded because of the previous games, especially Rayman 2. The change in atmosphere was maybe a bit harsh, but the incredibly diverse universe and gameplay of Rayman 3 couldn't match with the same dark storytelling tone... And keeping that tone would have made the comparison with Rayman 2 even worst. I personally think Rayman 3 was a great renewal and enhancement to the series, plotwise, gameplay-wise and soundtrack-wise, but to each his own, I guess.

[@cliffturbo2146]

“See you in Rayman 4!” When...

[@cliffturbo2146]

JoMa okay. is it 3D?

[@hewhoentertains4859]

There's a 3D fanmade Rayman game in developement that goes by the name of Rayman Revenge of the Dark taking place between Rayman 1 and 2. Outside of that i wouldn't expect a New Rayman game before Beyond Good and Evil is released.

[@cliffturbo2146]

JoMa I was kidding. I have them both, but I just like Rayman 3 even more.

[@IamSpeedster120]

Michel Ancel actually said a few months ago on Instagram that he wanted to make a Rayman 4. We could probably expect that after he's finished working on his two current games

[@cliffturbo2146]

He who entertains I totally forgot about Beyond Good and Evil. How long were they working on it?

[@sonicrayj6826]

19:05 actually there are red dots on a radar that tells you there are enemies there for you to take out

[@implantgames]

Well I'll be...

[@ketrub]

how did you miss that giant minimap lel

[@LeonardoRodrigues-uj1sm]

I never had a problem with the combat rly, It works just like all of the 3D Legend Of Zelda games where you hold down Z for the Z-Target and Hold and release another like the bow and arrow, boomerang, hookshot, etc.

[@hewhoentertains4859]

Wow i didn't expect this review this early. Thank you for reviewing my arguably favourite game of all time!

[@BlueBeast125]

He who entertains Best 3D Platformer I've played

[@hewhoentertains4859]

Yup

[@yawzing9448]

I loved the mech section because of the variety it presented to me as a young kid. I liked this level a lot as a kid because I felt like the battle was just a comedy skit. One guy runs from the ‘big boss’ who can’t be attacked with regular moves. All of a sudden a weapon appears. The two guys actually RUN to it (not your usual game mechanic)with the boss trying to destroy it. When Rayman gets the weapon, the roles are changed and the mouse now chases the cat. After defeating the boss, yes you can say it’s a waste-of-time, but it was just so cool as a kid that I got to be the ‘big guy’ in the situation. Yes it’s overpowered but it was really fun just playing the role of the ‘boss’ of the level getting rid of the ‘players’. It’s kind of like how people love the concept of ‘Godzilla’, a big monster destroying a large city, spreading rubble and causing chaos. Kinda like that😆. But hey, it may just be me.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

Also there IS challenge if you want the point multiplier to unlock bonus content.

[@XJLuna]

Stuff like that is what I absolutely love about the Rayman games. One of the most creative series I've ever played

[@daguido742]

he was nicer in rayman 2

[@chrisr529]

Murphy yes indeed

[@Brindle1]

Ayyyyyyye

[@ThePreciseClimber]

The game's cutscenes were synched to the French dub. It's especially noticeable in this cutscene: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ_OlqhvlrmCjrMh58m39s - ENGLISH kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5nKmJ9oaMx0jdkm52s - FRENCH

[@implantgames]

The lip synch issues didn't really bother me too much, maybe it's because I played too much Sonic Adventure back in the day...

[@WEndro333]

I love the wide variety of areas you visit in Rayman 3. Makes it feel like such a huge adventure.

[@implantgames]

Agreed.

[@resistancefighter888]

Great review, well written that really delved into the nooks and crannies of the game's design. For the most part I really enjoyed the combat, most of the time there many enemies on the screen attacking you simultaneously, making each confrontation fast-paced, and the enemy variety is really unheard of, there are tons of different enemies, most of them feel really different from one another. In short, keep up the good work!

[@Ronin11111111]

The second phase of the Mecha Legs fight is EXTREMELY neccessary because you can hear more of the boss theme.

[@djphildeez6357]

I'm so happy this uploaded today. Sunday seems to be a lazy day for the other channels I'm subscribed to. Implant is THE BEST when it comes to reviews

[@implantgames]

You're too kind :)

[@roundhousemedia8373]

I just wanted to say thank you for reviewing such a huge part of my Childhood, this game was will always be special to me and it was a pleasure to listen to you talk about it :)

[@implantgames]

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@SparksV]

Really enjoyed your videos on the Rayman Games, great videos and editing 👍

[@teleportaat]

I'm sorry, dude, but WHAT? Holding a trigger button AND a face button and releasing the face button is hard for you? That's like, playing CoD or any first person shooter, and after aiming and firing, you release the aim button by accident and continue shooting. No, that actually never happens. The lock on mechanic is actually pretty good in this game for it's time, it basically aims wherever you want. If an enemy is in your "sights", pressing the lock on button WILL lock on to that enemy. Rayman isn't a sniper ya know, he can't lock of to far away enemies. Press a direction, then lock on, and Rayman will lock on to that enemy, even if there's multiple enemies in a row (Tower of Leptys stage 1 intro hello)

[@domscards]

Kuririnite Did you listen? He said LETTING GO of the button felt awkward and unnatural and that adding another button to charge the attack would feel better. Not that "two buttons is too much".

[@levzurcher8902]

Great video. I always enjoy the thoughtful nature of each of your reviews. I like how you go through them taking careful consideration of all aspects every game has to offer; art, sound, effects, and gameplay all included. It's also refreshing not to see a " - out of - " rating.

[@implantgames]

Thanks man, I'm glad you enjoy them :)

[@therealseanw.stewart2071]

"Razoff goes full Miley" ...Seriously!? XD

[@implantgames]

;)

[@fruitlion8]

I have no idea, but the sound the boss piloting the wooden legs makes always makes me laugh. Sounds something like "Nguuuuhuuhuhuhuuuuuhr!"

[@implantgames]

Lol, I love that you put a word to the sound the legs make :)

[@ludicrousfool7953]

Thoroughly enjoyed your review. I love how descriptive your sentences are and the way you take into account level flow and difficulty; you’re better at reviews than game journalists today in fact. Also, there’s a way to force Xbox games that only run in 480i to run in 480p: when on the Xbox dashboard, pull and hold both triggers then click both thumbsticks. This will stay active until you do the process again or if the system has its power cord disconnected for some time. Games that already support 480p or higher won’t be downgraded either, they will work perfectly fine.

[@implantgames]

Is that so? I'll have to try that with Battle for Bikini Bottom... And thank you for the kind words!

[@ludicrousfool7953]

You’re welcome. I also recently found out that Rayman can do a dodge roll; if you press the L button while moving or strafing Rayman will roll in the direction the control stick is tilted (at least for the GameCube version I played). I tried it out during combat and it did make dodging projectiles a little easier (and you can actually dodge through them because you have I-frames), but getting hit is still a problem and having to operate three buttons to do combat maneuvers feels clumsy.

[@tailsic]

Wow, this is why i love you, you did something that no other reviewer as ever did for me, you actually convince to want to get the game you review. wow this feel so weird.

[@Velsk]

great video implant!

[@implantgames]

Thank you Sir!

[@WillWatches]

We need a Rahman 4 where Andre and Razorbeard combine

[@pixelbit9276]

"Reuniting Rayman with his digits" I just love this line...

[@matthiascerebri3315]

I love how the dialogues changed from gibberish with subtitles to clearly audible synchronization. Which should have happened more often.

[@darko7787]

Great video, one of my favorite games!

[@implantgames]

Thanks!

[@SayakaMaizonoo]

Hey, you finally did it! I can't say I ever had problem with locking on, combat was fine for me. I also enjoyed the shoe chasing, but the last time I played it probably took me half the time it did on my first playthrough. The egg carrying with the ghosts was probably my least favorite 'Minigame', just felt like wasted time. The last phase of the final boss was a real pain as a kid, probably took me a few hours to beat. Think I first tried it on my last playthrough though.

[@implantgames]

Thanks for the thoughtful comment, I have nothing to add, just wanted to say thanks :)

[@SayakaMaizonoo]

Hey, you did a great review. This game was a little more well known than Wallace and Gromit Project Zoo, but there's still plenty of decent PS2 platformers out there that deserve their time in the sun. Hopefully it'll be you to bestow that honor one day.

[@jaymzx2587]

Nice ad placement around the 8:00 mark “but first..” starts ad 😉 I actually played Rayman 3 for quite a while. Thought it was pretty good, but didn’t really impress me in any way. I guess I was kinda burned out on these kinds of platform era back in the day as well. Great video as always Kris! Looking forward to your Rayman Legends and Origins review; which are really excellent IMO.

[@implantgames]

The ad is supposed to play at 7:57 but KZbin is janky when it comes to ads haha :) Glad you enjoyed the video, I have completed my recorded run of Origins and enjoyed it immensely! I don't know why I skipped those games when they were new...

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

Rayman 3 Hoodlum Havoc is my favorite Rayman game and I like Rayman's new look. I'm also a big fan of The Sonic Series The Spyro Series and The Rayman Series. Spyro and Crash Bandicoot have their games remastered so Sonic and Rayman deserve their games remastered next. Rayman needs more love and more of his games with his design from Rayman 3. Out of his designs his teenage self from Rayman 3 is the best.

[@xxxvertigoxxx]

Very in depth review. I'm picking it up for 5 bucks on the Series X. Cheers for helping me decide it's worth the coin!

[@queekheadtaker7327]

This was my first game and I utterly enjoy it

[@VincentVincent_89]

been waiting a while for thiis

[@implantgames]

Hopefully it was worth the wait!

[@Shadic135]

5:07 missed opportunity to put “Witch Doctor” song here

[@torkelsvenson6411]

This was the first game I got when I got the PS2 which was the only 6th gen console I had when they were current, and I absolutely loved it!

[@lefterispapoutsis9154]

I actually loved the combat, you could do some crazy smooth parkour shit while fighting

[@ketrub]

Also, on the gameplays of the Hoodlum Sorcerer's first encounter, you seemed to do everything not to go in the middle (where the camera is semi-fixed)

[@kolos113]

I was playing this game as a kid, it was great, especially soundtrack :P

[@FrameRater]

28:06 "Fuck off, fairy!" :P

[@levzurcher8902]

Oh! I just thought of something. Will you look at Rayman 3: Hoodlums' Revenge for the GBA? I enjoyed that one very much (except for the bumper car sections).

[@implantgames]

I just looked that up and am surprised they went Isometric with it!

[@oskarsiwik3517]

the issue is you're holding the target button way before you approach the enemy which won't register, you have to do it whe nyou're closer, and everytime you defeat an enemy re-position before targetting again, that way the combat is reliable 100% of the time

[@mrsaxophone4765]

Also with L1 you can roll. When moving you simply roll, while when locking on an enemy you can quickly roll sideways, forward or backward

[@Pennaz]

While I mostly agree with you and enjoyed this review I feel there are two points you totally overlooked: - You get a 5 stars rank at the end of every level based on your score. Trying to get the highest score possible really changes the way you approach Rayman 3 level design due to its combo system and can be a really fun post-endgame challenge. - With said high scores you unlock a lot of silly stuff: from minigames (some are OK, some are terrible and there is one for the GC version which is absolutely fantastic) to little movies which I think are really charming.

[@domscards]

The black little things with a leader named Andre makes hoodlums? This game would never be made today...lol

[@implantgames]

Oh man there are so many oddities from this era haha. There is a level in Sonic Heroes where the characters won't stop talking about the black frogs that always cracks me up.

[@mrsaxophone4765]

I wanted you to know that in clearleaf forest special stage (the disco portal after the doctor) you fall at the end, so instead of going to the land of livid deads, you fall in the mug of burk...i dont know how it is called in english

[@Playmongeek]

Great review! Do you think review VEXX in a next episode?

[@implantgames]

Thanks man! I do own Vexx, I'll have to give it a try!

[@Playmongeek]

I just finished it recently and I must say that I am very surprised because he has good ideas despite a very random story and a capricious camera. it's been a long time where a platformer game left my hands so swet in some missions

[@sandman8993]

I always found raymans jump in these 3D games to be difficult to judge. Because of the flip he does

[@warioland523]

The final boss from what I gather is an unholy fusion of Reflux, and Andre. They are using the power of Leptys but it's not the Leptys himself. The Leptys is bird like in appearance according to the statues of him found in the desert. Final boss looks nothing like that. Even the final form of Andreflux as I like to call it has wings but they are more bat like then bird like.

[@ventriloquistmagician4735]

I beat this game as a kid and I had no idea who Andre was.

[@Animated__Freak]

I agree with you very much. The tone difference between this and Rayman 2 is to big for me. I really liked the way the world was presented in Rayman 2 and to have that go to a Saturday morning cartoon style tone was very disappointing for me. Still like Rayman 3 a lot, it's platforming is really good. Wish they would make more 3D Rayman games because that's really how I remember him.

[@tomboye-mouto9684]

Are their any big differences between this version and the hd version?

[@implantgames]

Never played the HD version so I can't say for certain.

[@sldlsndns3420]

The music in this game is underrated. Summit beyond the clouds especially

[@keptyouwaitinghuh2720]

I played it 2 weeks ago on ps2 vor the first time and this game is funny as hell

[@Mechagator]

This and Arena are my favorite rayman games

[@gotigilles1]

can change the language to french language with ps2 version ?

[@Animahullu]

In my childhood I never succeeded second level because my computer was so slow

[@abhirao2001]

One of my favorite games of all time!

[@b612gonzalo]

Does this game have a PS4 release?

[@blueyolker4961]

will there be a review about taz wanted?

[@implantgames]

No one has ever requested it before. Did you enjoy that one?

[@blueyolker4961]

implantgames I actually did, it's an odd game but I somehow still can enjoy it

[@implantgames]

Good to know, thanks!

[@blueyolker4961]

implantgames give it a try when you can and if you feel like it, I'd love to see your opinion on the game because I personally feel like it's underrated

[@keptyouwaitinghuh2720]

In Germany did from ice age is voiced by the famoust comedian in Germany Otto Waalkes. It would be the best game ever if he voiced globox

[@VANssaZOOlema]

Have you played rayman raving rabbids

[@DanielAyy]

I really want this on the Switch

[@Robert-nl3fd]

Camera issues in a 3d platformer , are going to always be an area of concern.

[@AlwaysHarmonyy]

Omg i miss rayman so much.

[@kdk9518]

ok, real quick: A. I can understand your issues with a Camera controls being problematic during fights, especially during fights with multiple enemies. A big thing you didn't talk about was how the Camera can be reset to raymans current facing position by simply tapping the lock on button, meaning no need for R-stick camera. B. The Shoe Car sections are not difficult at all?...in fact, their are strategies to win them easily Simply drive parallel to a shoe and force it to hit a wall, you get atleast 2 hits in once you turn towards it. C. Your gonna complain about a 7 minute Boss ?....really?...what did you expect? 2 minutes for a Boss fight? D. The Battleship portion is what made me come down here...you don't need the camera for the battleship portion. its Plain as day that the enemies are on the mini-map to the left side, marked in red. The game literally brings up a secondary window so don't act like its something you didn't notice. E. Globox is considered pretty dumb in this and future titles, its kinda a given that he could considered Andre a pet. F. Complain about a 7 min boss

[@christianm4947]

“Is Cave Story still good?” I think so, but I’d like to see what you think!

[@manbos7385]

There is a roll button press b if your having trouble with the combat

[@keptyouwaitinghuh2720]

The problem with the ps2 Version. In the endbossfight it doesn't save. Only at the 4th phase. My problem you can't see anything in phase 3,that means,that I die all the time and must make the first 2 phases which takes 15 minutes

[@zeantriox]

i reacently played the game again, and i still think rayman 3 has some of the best combat. It's fluid and responsive and you have a lot of options to deal with enemies while being on the move.

[@Yoknuckles2]

YES.

[@spadesofnintendo6213]

Will you be reviewing Rayman Arena?

[@implantgames]

Is it worth playing with a single person or is it really multi-player only?

[@spadesofnintendo6213]

I played the game a ton as a kid, if I remember it correctly, it had a bunch of unlockable stuff that could be unlocked through either a single player grand prix or time trials, sort of like Mario Kart, that's if I'm remembering it correctly.

[@fluffibuni8663]

Another superb retrospective. While various ports of Rayman 2 have been my go-to 3D platformers for years, from PS1 to 3DS, Rayman 3 just never had the same appeal for me. It's definitely replaced charm with a more childish humour, and the gameplay feels more functional than engaging (though it has some good ideas in places). It's a solid sequel with a nice visual upgrade, but as a whole it's just not in the same league as Rayman 2 in my opinion.

[@implantgames]

"Feels more functional than engaging" is a great line! Glad you enjoyed the video :)

[@CameronRoberts-jh9mr]

I think Rayman 2 is not in the same league as rayman 3 in my opinion.

[@RayNheartZ.]

Yee! I LOVE this game!

[@babyluther73]

If I had to say, Rayman 3 had it's moments where the combat was hard to trigger. I have Rayman 3 on PS2 and GameCube. The PS2 combat was pretty difficult holding R1 or R2. But the GameCube version of Rayman 3 is best to control. Look, I'm not a nintendo guy, I'm a PlayStation fan but PlayStation 2 version just didn't have that same smooth feel as the GameCube version.

[@user-rk2xi7iw9k]

Combat sucked? WHAT?! i found the combat in this game to be by far the best in the series, platformers generally suck when it comes to combat but this game is one of the very few that does it incredibly well.

[@smittenlittenx2295]

Does anyone know if there is a way to delete game files on PS2 for this game?

[@implantgames]

Unplug the memory card?

[@smittenlittenx2295]

implantgames It's okay. I've sorted it out now. Thank you.

[@Danwolf15]

Next to Rayman 2 this is my favorite game of all time. I'ts amazing (I even enjoyed the battle system) they're not making games like these anymore

[@user-ph5oh3gn9p]

This game is a masterpiece!

[@Ronin11111111]

19:10 there's a literal radar showing you where enemies are coming from.

[@yagottobelievensomething2683]

29:37 I know it must take a really long time to make videos like these but come on man "noodle" freaking "noodle"

[@save_zawarudo]

underrated game

[@MeCantSpell]

Strange... I don't remember the lock on system. I played it on my PS2.

[@mc_sonic2479]

Oddly enough I liked the combat a lot, especially over 2's.

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

There’s alot of Rayman 2 fans here

[@aviergaz1199]

I played it countless time!!! I hope ubisoft will develope a new open world Rayman

[@glittermarsian5054]

Still fucking outstanding

[@TabalugaDragon]

How could you NOT mention the minigames that get unlocked as you play? this is the main reason you need high scores. Plus extra videos about Hoodlums

[@CaesarNeptuneStudios]

I do not agree with you because the combat in Rayman 2 is too simple and in Rayman 3 it's much more advanced. But i guess we all have different opinions. Personally i think Rayman 3 has better replay-value than Rayman 2 and it holds up much more at least when it comes to the graphics.

[@luisburgos7365]

Everytime you say buTTons i feel strange LOL especially cuz sometimes you say it normally. It's worse than the way AVGN says "buddens" xD but i love your vids so whatever

[@devastatheseeker9967]

I never had any difficulty with the combat

[@hectorandem2944]

Is water still wet?

[@lordofidiots5600]

Hector Andem yes

[@dootservices5842]

No

[@spectrumbots4268]

Rayman 3 is still good, but I do think that 2 did the combat system a bit better, and I totally agree with you on the shoe car segments. I have never like the Shock Rocket as I always it found hard to control the thing.. That said, Hoodlum Havoc is still a very competent game. The Longest Shortcut, & The Desert of the Knaaren were my favorite levels!

[@highward5292]

i personally rayman's 2 combat system kinda just feels slugish, and boring in a way that you only lock camera, left right left right jump and shoot, and that's it. With rayman 3 you have the red aim rings that pop up and that allows you to be more dynamic and not constantly stuck camera wise with the trigger to the enemy. like you can charge your attack while jumping and running and avoiding shots from differnt enemies and it makes it so satysfying aswell when you shoot after charging and the game gives you these cool sound and visual clues that you destroyed them. For me rayman 2 could exist without any fight, you can't really run and charge at the same time in that game, enemies you usually encounter in like ones and twos, there is lack of cool gimicks with them imo Rayman 3 is an upgrade in that department.

[@SuperHns]

shouldn't Andre turned into a red????