The Art of Being Left Alone in Pyro: Star Citizen 4.0

[@ppdragos6796]

to answer you query RICITE in stanton arcorp mining area 151 and 157, area 18, orison, lorville, new babbage and grim hex in pyro ashland, gaslight, rods fuel amd supplies, patch city, end game, dudley and daughter & ruin highest price in order for each system highest first STILERON in Pyro jacksons swamp, ashland,. in Stanton Grim Hex, Area 18, Orison, Lorville, New Babbage & Rayari anvik. Again highest to lowest in order for each area All lists taken from SC trading tool

[@andyandreson3989]

Every time I visit Pyro I always head to the middle of nowhere. Anywhere around POI’s is going to be where trouble is.

[@CitizenScott]

2:20 This is totally backwards. NEVER open your hangar doors until you are prepared. Period. I'm talking destination set, all systems go, and area scanned by cycling through all available targets. Anything less and you're asking for it.

[@RaysGuide]

I'm not sure that really works well with instanced hangars since you don't know which hangar door you will be connected to until you ask for it to be opened. Definitely you should have your trip planned before opening the door.

[@CitizenScott]

Oh yeah, instanced hangars exist. lol Still you should be scanning the area as soon as the doors start to open.

[@JS-wt8vf]

It is also good to quantum to a random point and drop out in the middle of nowhere and then quantum to your destination. This is called dog-legging and it makes you unpredictable. Also, set your quantum destination before you open the hangar so you are not left vulnerable hanging around outside and can leg it the moment you clear the hangar.

[@BoyBacon5051]

Cole Protocol

[@MackyMus]

When base building comes in, the middle of nowhere is where I want to be.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

can't wait for this.

[@Gazbeard]

I always mine in the middle of nowhere, in both Stanton and Pyro, because despite the song there are no roads to nowhere.

[@micheljavert5923]

Really cannot stress enough the value of Keeping Alert. As someone who practiced the more advanced version of this in EVE while exploring wormholes, I can tell you how easy it is to “fall asleep at the wheel” (so to speak) when things have been quiet for a long time. Always keep your head on a swivel.

[@KumachiYoshimura]

At least the middle of nowhere in Pyro looks pretty

[@alexparris7769]

I have certainly been venturing more and more to outposts with expendable equipment and ships but for the most part i have been out in the middle of nowhere trying to chance upon some wrecks that don’t have a POI and thus will likely have less chance of someone arriving mid salvage

[@RaysGuide]

I once, when just prospecting came across an intact Carrack, door open, and a wrecked Vanguard just sitting out there. Nobody else around. That would have been quite a find for a salvager.

[@ph11p3540]

I did a lot of mining in Pyro and had most of my ore refined at Stantion Gateway. My problem was a bug that prevented me from quantum jumping to ArcCorp or MicroTech once I exited the Jump point from Pyro to Stanton. I lost so much to those bugs that I had to reset my character. I am sure those bugs are gone now. Someone was hanging around CIG monitoring and fixing servers all the way up to Christmas Eve

[@MultiFishslayer]

Stanton gateway refines ore?

[@braunsch4901]

Definitely many bugs still. Merc missions don't progress reputation... server randomly boots me. Quantum jumped straight into planet, bounty missions don't complete after killing enemy... disappointed it's still so unplayable

[@stormwolf3255]

Mining in the middle of nowhere has always been my preferred strategy - usually deep in the Aaron Halo. The risky part, as you pointed out, is that last mile back to the refinery where often you find some low-life ganker just looking for an easy target (and with a full hold of quantanium ore blinking away there's generally not a lot of time to mess around).

[@alandab]

FUQ that place and this patch! I'll wait until CIG realizes that unfettered PVP is not going to work, long-term.

[@wesflash1]

I had been thinking everything you have been thinking. Heading to the middle of nowhere, somewhere away from usual waypoints, is what I had been considering doing. It's good to know I had a decent idea.

[@marcjensen9080]

Mining has always been best in the middle of nowhere, but then I dial that up a notch by approaching it like those insane people who head out on the water in small boats to go fishing at four in the morning. Star Citizen taught me - as I follow the sun around lunar surfaces while inspecting rocks - that those people aren't actually there to catch fish. No, they're doing it to have a meditative experience as they watch the sunrise (and might catch lunch on the side). My mining profits might be mediocre, but I got what I came for with the outing and _nobody bothers me._ 🤩

[@Aero_Yuki]

Heading to the middle of nowhere has generally been good advice for mining in Stanton as well, and it's one of the reasons I spent so much time in the Aaron Halo - just so people couldn't find me. Once scanning gameplay improves (including long-range scanning), staying off-grid might become a bit more difficult. Perhaps going mining with an escort might become commonplace at that point.

[@sheikahmedullah9796]

These are invaluable tips which took a bit of time for me to learn. Thanks so much for sharing those with us

[@donnytheflow]

this is excellent life advice whether you're new in the big city, around some seedy unfamiliars, or in the middle of nowhere

[@db3x88]

I only played in Pyro during the EPTU, but while i was there i was lucky enough not to have anyone take a shot at me. That said i still had Nav Mode active and my gear up before leaving a station hangar, and shot out at full throttle with boost engaged as soon as the doors were open enough for me to exit, lol

[@Solar546]

That's the way

[@vesnl]

Good tips for those looking to dip their toes solo.

[@blackmamba___]

I’m still confused on why this isn’t obvious to players who don’t want to PvP. If you want to play star citizen without being bothered by anyone else, stay away from everyone else. This works in Stanton as well.

[@TheRealFreakaros]

sometimes you think you have no place to go, and you're nowhere safe. But as Ray points out you can totally be on your own in pyro for extended periods of time. Planets are big and outposts are rare.

[@cygnus6623]

For better or worse, I need to go to Pyro. I went to prison for trespassing and afterward I have no verified missions in Stanton. Thanks Ray!

[@ericcrichardson]

the more middle of nowhere, the better. Pyro is huge, the art of not being seen is going to be a huge skill we all need the re.

[@jeremysimerly6824]

First video I've ever watched of the game that I can see myself in the chatlog lmao. Great informative video.

[@Kakeyoro]

Industrial gameplay is pretty safe depending particularly on WHERE you're doing your gameplay. For me, I ALWAYS, always always mine (and salvage) in the Aaron Halo. Super peaceful.

[@TheBetterManInBlack]

nowhere is where I usually find myself when the computer warns me I'm low on QF.

[@Sludgebuster]

Middle of Nowhere! Good Guide, Ray! Sneakiness pays...

[@expresselevatortohell]

Thanks Ray. Good best practices in here.

[@fletchbruno8157]

Nowhere. This is how I’ve been mining for years. I’m not looking for friends, I’m looking for rocks! Great tips 👍 Love your vids!

[@FredFenster]

I need to check out more of Pyro. Hopefully, I'll heed your advice and do it in the middle of nowhere.

[@daw1d.e]

Thanks for the advises ! Can't wait to go mine in the middle of an asteroid belt !

[@MrBigAudi]

Being Nowhere is a good place to be in this context. Great video that was realistic, practical, and productive ❤

[@99mserna]

I always enjoy exploring in the middle of nowhere instead of near a nav marker

[@Observer_Custos]

I agree that you always want to mine or salvage in the middle of nowhere. Too much of a risk of being jumped when your preoccupied if you do anything in a spot that is easier to navigate to via a marker point of some sort.

[@JFrombaugh]

As a mostly solo, non combat player, I completely agree with all the people who would say Pyro is not really for me. But I’ve still been going there because hey, we’ve been doing the same gameplay loops in Stanton for so long now, we need some excitement, why not give myself a challenge for a change?

[@shadew04]

I mined everywhere, but the hidden belt in hurston was the best find

[@mariuskraft3155]

And here I was thinking, where’s Ray? And poof, there you are :-) Happy holidays🖖

[@Bogie-AGB]

Same, just go to the middle of nowhere. BTW, RICITE and STILERON can both be sold at any of the cities in Stanton

[@jasonesty3880]

If at all possible, Plot your destination while still in the hangar and be in nav mode with "wheels up" as the doors open.

[@matthewbrady5274]

I typically don't agree with a lot of your opinions on your videos but thank you for making this, new players need to see this, as well as some returning players. Pyro isn't for everyone, but you can certainly make it easier on yourself by making better decisions when you go there.

[@Krieghandt]

Nowhere is safe in Pryo, but keeping your EM and IR at moderate levels helps immensely,

[@KarunaRealms]

Basically you don't go to named POI's cause you will get blown away. You don't even have to have anything on you to be a victim. They don't bother to scan you first to see if you are a target worth perusing, cause just being a warm body is enough for them. I tried several times to just go and explore, basic suit, empty ship. Show up somewhere and always at least 3 ships waiting, no matter how remote a place. Named location, blown out of the sky. Even if you drop to the ground without engaging them, to try and abandon ship and explore on foot, dead before you can get out. Do not go to Pyro unless you are fully crewed and wanting PK content.

[@kentyannayon3741]

I've found not sticking around and not taking my time with anything makes it pretty difficult for anyone to make the decision to attack. Helps flying around in medium-heavy fighters known to have good firepower while bounty hunting. Mining is a little different, but I got frustrated with how long it took to find good rocks, so my low risk money printing comes from salvage these days. Though I suspect salvage is kinda high risk in pyro because where you find panels and lost ships is where most combat missions spawn, and they seem to be relatively small areas compared to the ring around Yela. I tend to fly gear up all the way to the hangar though, you drift as much as you would killing throttle when you put gear down, so it's always faster to be right on top of the hangar before gear go down.

[@PabloMotte]

Nice to see that we're all going to the middle of nowhere. How are your experiences with the jump point from Pyro to Stanton? If there is somewhere *not* in the middle of nowhere (apart from the stations) that would be it.

[@skitsnack1]

Mining in the middle of nowhere is a peaceful way to play

[@KyloBy7e]

I wonder if long range scanning (when added) will be able to find players mining in the middle of nowhere. Or if there will be ways to be harder to find so you can mine in the shadows.

[@MrTim4pc]

As a miner/Salvager I love to be in the middle of nowhere

[@mabutoo]

Before I enter the green zone, I find the power level where the progress neither increases or decreases. I then move the power up no more the 5 points until I hit the green zone them put the power at that hold number. With this technique, nothing is impossible to crack.

[@schlagzahne6741]

I like doing the fps missions but right now cig has decided to clump them all in a tiny areas for each plantet. I take the eclipse and fly in shields down and guns off, i have often reach my destination outposts st Chawlas Beach without getting detected. Best part is if someone is really uppity im not opposed to dumb firing a torp at them after i get away - with the correct systems turned off your detection can drop to about 750m which allows for easy dumb fire torps, which pdcs ignore. I have knocked engine blocks ( 3 or 4 ) off a polaris when aimed right, all it takes is 1 torp to cause hundreds of thousands of credits as well as stability to fall off a cap ship.

[@sbdyson]

Happily, the best place to mine often happens to be in the middle of nowhere.

[@koruzarius8071]

Definitely want to grab a Vulture and head to the middle of nowhere to do some scraping.

[@Mastadon1985]

I like to mine in the middle of nowhere. Now if everyone mines in the middle of nowhere, we might start bumping into eachother.

[@Grim-HEX]

Funny thing about being in the middle of nowhere.. I like to do site seeing at places that is not in the middle of somewhere.

[@mattpowers9978]

I enjoy your videos! Thank you. I haven't been to nowhere in awhile...

[@WarlockSRB]

SC-Tools is updated, and both riccite (10-12.3k) and Stileron (11-18k) you can only sell, not buy... maybe there was a bug before :)

[@terrymrobinson666]

Bloom, in the middle of 'nowhere'.

[@chrisalexander2478]

I always mine in the middle of nowhere. Pyro doesn't have an asteroid belt like the Aarons Halo does it?

[@Cookie-yl8uq]

Now-heres the thing, know here from there, thats the key. When you don't know where to mine it can be very stressful, so now, here we have Rays advice and it is excellent. Venturing out into the middle of nowhere will save pulling a few hairs. And who wants to have no hair!?

[@EmberHarvestRaven]

Walter White

[@Herodocles]

Middle of nowhere is the best place for pretty much every solo activity

[@ingeonsa]

Friend shared, thought it was Roy's guide but turned out to be Ray's guide

[@Archmage9885]

While the middle of nowhere is safer, I actually want to see some of the points of interest. I haven't had much success yet, but I'm working on it.

[@michaelsanders2065]

Mining in the middle of nowhere has been my MO for years....I got pretty good a hitting the Aaron Halo just by gut feeling back in the day.

[@cyranobuckminster1970]

I find the middle of nowhere, then go a million miles from there.

[@CptFugu]

I am even getting queues in the middle of nowhere.

[@Iconoclastix]

Is there an Aaron's Halo like place in Pyro? A location totally in the middle of nowhere that is only reachable randomly?

[@RaysGuide]

Lore has an asteroid belt but there isn't in the game.

[@jch1386]

I wish I was able to explore all the pretty little spots in the middle of nowhere, but I've been completely trapped in A18 because of ASOP/Hangar/Elevator issues.

[@Spaceshotx7]

The thing about pirates is they don't do real piracy, they just engage in griefing and ganking every player they see.

[@stopmotion4535]

A tiny fraction do, and their victims make a lot of noise. Meanwhile all the hundreds of thousands of others are busy enjoying themselves.

[@FearLegion-co8gg]

They kill you and take your valuables.. thats piracy. A pirate wilk use any tool at their disposal to redline you and take your ship and/or cargo. Hell they might just kill you to stay out of the territory of resources. It would be inbelievably stupid to give you a fighting chance.. why would they?

[@2012YoutubeWasBetter]

i dont think you understand what greifing is. you crying like a baby doesnt make the behaviour "griefing"

[@JollygreenFullSteam]

That's because carebears never negotiate or they just grief the pirate by self destructing.

[@Spaceshotx7]

@@JollygreenFullSteam all of you are griefers aren't you?

[@MirageDU]

Personaly I like mining at asteroids more when out there in a ship. Didn't try that in Pyro so far though. When I try that I will outfit my Prospector with stealth components. Always better to not been seen at all.

[@6spacin9]

Mining in the middle of nowhere has always been preferred.

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

There's a bug right now (at least I hope it's just a bug) where salvage missions are marked as private property. Even to you. The problem with that is you can't use the damn tractor beam until you move out of the area. No grabbing guns, missiles or cargo. I did manage to grab 1 scu of cargo by backing into it and letting it fall to the grid. Annoying. That and CM isn't worth much anymore.

[@fnunez]

How to not get ganked in CIGs' MMO: Avoid every other player in the MMO and you won't get ganked. 11/10 game design, well done CIG. Tomorrow we look at how not to get wet when it rains by never leaving the house.

[@RaysGuide]

For the moment in pyro don't trust anyone you don't know.

[@circuitguy9750]

I looked carefully over CIGs phrasing. They said ricote was rare, but NOWHERE did they say it was valuable 😂

[@ttownscott]

I haven't yet, but plan on hauling a roc out to mine in the middle of Bloom

[@Eienlanzer]

I can't call elevators, QJ fails, Black screen with arrow, hangars wont open when hailed... it's been a miserable experience.

[@pxkqd]

Great tips Ray, luckily star systems are big and there's a lot in the middle of nowhere.

[@Blindfire201]

which stations to refine in middle of nowhere

[@Qwarzz]

Yea... I was planning to visit Pyro but getting 30009 error now. Didn't even log off in the middle of nowhere, but in New Babbage commons the first and only time I managed to try 4.0.

[@MisterFoxton]

In the middle of nowhere? I don't enjoy mining, so realistically I'd rather just be closer to home, or a TDD so I can cash out quick.

[@citizenshenanigans2907]

It's quiet in the middle of nowhere.

[@cryptoseven]

Middle of nowhere. Nice video and tips. Subscription earned. o7

[@justsomewhitewolf]

luckily planets and space are both big, there's a lot of middle of nowhere out there.

[@Frightknight28]

Yup, you'll always be ok walking through the hood with work boots on!

[@PhantomRider-78]

I have a love and hate relationship with pyro, would love a starlancer one day, and would love to be able to mine with a prospector on bloom

[@Sumgui119]

Seems like nowhere is your best friend in solo-Pyro

[@doncockroft550]

Mining in the middle of nowhere is always best.

[@DruzyDruidz]

the middle of the green zone

[@hugo231929]

so you're saying, the less you fuck around, the less you find out?

[@RaysGuide]

💯

[@TheSubso]

Personally had a good time in the middle of nowhere on bloom, though planetary rocks are still not consistent for me and often fake :(((

[@BigBobBlazer]

Stay away from popular missions spots like Shepherd's Rest. Players are camping those areas to kill other players. Not piracy, they're not wanting anything. Just the pleasure of making you dead. They're also using stealth, so if you see 6 missiles coming at you from nowhere, some missile slinging ape is using a Firebird and then reclaiming his ship every time he runs empty. Lastly, use a stealth ship of your own. Like a Firebird, Hornet Ghost or similar. I don't even get seen most of the time with those ships.

[@AJ_Meyers]

There was a port in Star Wars the Old Republic called "Nowhere". CIG could take that name and do something better with it than EAWare ever did. God, SWTOR was such a disappointment. I spent more on that game than I have or ever will on SC.

[@blacksheepboyz]

Ive been to nowhere and found out I was somewhere. Stupid GPS!

[@saosaoldian6742]

Haven’t even been to Pyro yet in live. Letting the shiny wear off

[@HAWKERFly]

this all if you can actually log into this bonfire

[@davidlogan4497]

I’d just as soon mine in the middle of nowhere. Quieter.

[@alexsutton20]

Middle of nowhere, got it.

[@philswift791]

Space is huge you can hide almost everywhere.

[@theorigonalb.a]

mining is ruined with those green zones so small that I can even see if the marker is in it or not, as well as a lot of other things

[@_Brando_69]

Im hoping CIG will let me melt my reclaimer. I had a mpuv that was a referral reward and upgraded it over time to the reclaimer and i hate it. Cant melt it though since it started as a reward. put in a request to see if i can get the mpuv back and get the rest store credit so i can get my prospector and vulture back

[@ClarkH7]

I want to build in the middle of nowhere.

[@patrickwenzlik]

Sometimes there is nowhere to gonin pyro. Just stay calm and wait and try again.

[@Limestoneredneck]

Just remember no where is safe in pyro stay vigilant