Razer Edge Review: Who is This For?

[@papa_NCF]

Just FYI, they updated the RAM info on their website AFTER people began receiving their devices. The only reason they changed it is because people realized from benchmarking apps that their WiFi models only had 6GB of RAM as opposed to 8GB which was still advertized on the website. Once people reached out to Razer asking about the discrepancy, the company stealth update the specs online.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Thank you for the clarification, I didn’t realize Razer had already shipped pre-orders before making that change. That’s even worse. Pinning for visibility!

[@ekinteko]

@@RetroGameCorps This. The Razer Edge Wifi was already somewhat poor-value to begin with, so their response with the RAM fiasco sealed the deal for the mainstream crowd. And I agree, that had this same device been released 2-Years ago but with a QSD 888 chipset instead, for its time, it wouldn't have been so bad.Comparisons to the AYN Odin Pro come to mind. Contrarily, if they released it now with 8GB RAM and a USD $300 MSRP price, then it would make more sense. But then it's double the price of the Retroid Pocket 3+ and I don't think you're getting double the experience. Thanks Russ for the comparisons, and the return of the Venn diagram!!! I believe for the majority of your audience a better combination is something like the iPhone 11 Max (very affordable on Used Market) to get access to iOS Ecosystem and Telephony, then have a Retroid Pocket 3+ to get access to the Android Ecosystem, and a separate machine for gaming at home (Valve SteamDeck, PS5, Windows Gaming PC, etc etc). Essentially you're skipping Android on your phone, getting an extra ecosystem, and having a separate pocketable device to streamline your gaming experience which just happens to have access to the Android Ecosystem. What do you think about such a combination?

[@jamilpointer1354]

This is kind of partially true. Russ had it right in the video. They actually did change it before the official launch. The people who really got screwed were those that preordered. It’s a shitty situation but I don’t believe they intentionally misled anyone.

[@dopesheepify]

Both razer and Qualcomm were secretive about the SoC specs too, and didn’t bother to correct benchmarks and specs floating around that suggested it was an overclocked 8 gen 1 rather than the 888 it actually is

[@papa_NCF]

@@jamilpointer1354 I don't think it was intentional either, but I'm 99% sure they changed it after people reached out to Razer support after receiving the devices. The folks in the Retro Handheld Discord were documenting stuff pretty well and from what I remember, the specs were not changed prior to devices shipping out. Edit: My bad, yes you're technically right, us folks who received their devices first were the pre-orders. So yes it technically was changed before the "official launch" but people still paid money and received their devices by that point.

[@aarronlee]

Should probably mention that, if you plan on leaving the controller always connected, it drains the battery and affects standby time. Note that this isn't a problem specific to the razer edge, it's an overall Android issue.

[@aarronlee]

@@TBMartin wasn't obvious to me, until I started researching the Razer Edge more. I figured that others could also be similarly uninformed.

[@aarronlee]

@@TBMartin except that, based on my research online, power drain in standby doesn't happen with iPhones that have a Razer Kishi, Backbone one, etc, attached. It's literally only on Android where the power drain happens in standby with a controller attachment.

[@aarronlee]

@@TBMartin nope, didn't research that far. I was just researching general usage, and noticed discussions around power drain with these attached controllers. The "power drain on standby" issue is a dealbreaker for me personally, but others might think otherwise. I was just pointing it out for those that might not have known.

[@CANTED_ANGLE]

Thank you for mentioning this. Don't know why the other guy is being such an antagonistic twat.

[@aarronlee]

@@TBMartin but that's exactly how I use my Switch and Steam Deck, I press the power button to go into standby, and resume later on when I want to continue playing. If trying to use an Android gaming machine like a console is "stupid", then I'm stupid. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@kismet8010]

I like how the channel has matured into journalistic research over time

[@lemyatom]

I recently upgraded to the Samsung S23 Ultra and I have a Gamevice Flex and I'm more than happy with it.

[@TheCoolDave]

I'll have to check it out, I also upgraded my phone my old GameVice does not fit...

[@lemyatom]

@TheCoolDave what phone is it? The S23 ultra fits with the phone adapters and I have a spigen gaming case that is slim and fits fine.

[@TheCoolDave]

@@lemyatom I picked up the S23 Ultra. I have like 4-year-old Game Vice unit; it does not have adapters for other phones. I worked fine for my Note 10+ that I just upgraded but, it does not fit the S23 Ultra...

[@lemyatom]

@@TheCoolDave ohh I see. I didn't realise there were more than one iteration of the Gamevice seeing as it is my first. The Gamevice Flex is what you want then.

[@overoula]

@@lemyatom which case? the one with the blue honey marks on the back? thinking to get the gamevice flex to try it..

[@JackieBrown111]

I just watched ETAPrime's review yesterday and after having watched your review, I can say both were equally informative and helpful. Thanks, Russ

[@WheeledHamster]

That guy is such a turd, clickbait titles, emulating the same 5 damn games over and over. I stopped watching his shit after seeing Auto Modellista in every damn video.

[@JackieBrown111]

@@WheeledHamster I’ll admit, he has his top go-to games especially Auto Modellista. But so does Taki, Phawx, and other reviewers. As for being click-baity, I don’t really see it. The titles of his reviews tend to correspond with the content imo

[@zerocal76]

ETA Prime informative 😅😅 The guy lists the specs, says how he's really been looking fwd to the device (as he says w all other devices) then does a few game benchmarks. Russ is where its at! 👈

[@Xuvier]

Great video. This was looking extremely promising until you mentioned the horrible customer experience and down right anti consumer practice. Nothing against your fantastic review (as always) be me personally will be avoiding this product. I do not appreciate company greed.

[@100toeface]

Yeah razer customer service is the worst ever. I tried to order their new 3d speaker for $400 using both a card and paypal and they kept blocking it 'for security reasons', even though the same cards work everywhere else. After several emails (the first few they avoided answering my questions completely), they said I was supposed to call my bank and get an authorization code that they could then use to 'unlock' their security so I could purchase it. I gave up and instead purchased a similar LG speaker.

[@LumbyMcGumby]

Nice! You should see how the android backbone is too. I use my phone for ps2 stuff so these controller types come in handy. But 400 is wild for a dedicated android handheld when I can just use a controller on my phone

[@RetroGameCorps]

Here’s my review of the Backbone for Android! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpqvqICJg6x4i7M

[@13JacksonMr]

I think this device would have faired better if it was a actual handheld rather than just a tablet with a controller attachment. Even with the Odin I would rather play on that because it feels like a dedicated handheld, even though I have a S22 ultra with a Razer Kishi 2 on it.

[@piercewiederecht5135]

Ehh…I gotta say my Odin has mostly been collecting dust since my Edge touched down.

[@WheeledHamster]

A flagship phone cost close to $1000 my friend. Yes if you one, there's not benefit to this.

[@piercewiederecht5135]

@@WheeledHamster yeah I mean this thing performs really well. Much better than Samsung s21 with a stock sd888. The slight overclock and the fan put this things overall emulation performance really close to a sd8gen1. It could’ve been even better if they’d dabbed this G3’s at TSMC but I’m pretty sure they just took unsold sd888 and gave them a slight overclock.

[@D3arkWizard]

Thank you, The only KZbinr that compare the screen aspect ratio. 16:9 would have been way better for streaming games like PlayStation, Xbox, PC no Big black bars.

[@salitz91]

This discussion and especially the Venn diagram comparison was exactly what I was hoping for. This confirms that I should pick up the Steam Deck this year to compliment my RP3+ which will handle Android gaming. Thanks for the great video as always, Russ!

[@RetroGameCorps]

Glad it was helpful!

[@justinheuser5676]

Absolutely love my edge. I have a steamdeck, odin pro, rp3+ and a ton of tablets (legion y900, tab s8 ultra, ipad mini6) and the razer edge is the only one that gets play time here lately. Steam link, wifi6e, my 4090 pc, it runs better, looks better and plays better than playing native on my steamdeck.

[@chedhead3278]

Thanks for the review Russ, always interesting and informed. With some design panache and more focus on retro gaming this could have been pretty awesome. As it is the USP, great android performance, feels rather fleeting. After a bit of an internal struggle over a Steamdeck I went option 3 with my £350 and bought a decent second hand PC. The battery life is terrible and I seem to have torn my cargo shorts ...

[@dopesheepify]

RE the price vs a phone + controller You can get a US Samsung galaxy S21 (or FE) snapdragon 888 with 256GB renewed on US amazon for $280-350 and it will have the 8GB RAM and also act as a phone too. Gamesir X2 pro with analogue triggers or the rebranded Nubia shadow blade can be found for $64-85 And us non Americans can’t really buy the razer edge anyway 🤷‍♀️

[@dustinharrison3491]

When you do videos from the couch, I always eye that beautiful CRT tv up in the corner! I love the CRT era.

[@WickedGamerCollector]

I was also looking at this device on there website. Thanks for the video review buddy ! 👌

[@corroonb]

Great video as usual. The aspect ratio is a deal breaker and the horrible customer service is the cherry on top.

[@marcodamn]

Thanks for the in-depth emulator tests and your detailed explanation on which resolution is used and why 👍

[@risingdawn5259]

I knew Ross was too nice to be true! Inverted aiming! That's a serial killer sign if ever I saw one 😉

[@JasperPerri]

Missed the part where its also able to be used without the controller in the way. I like that the controller is optional. I like having an Auxiliary device like a small tablet to read books play games and do extra functional things on android. The device is perfectly suited for that. Also yes...I refuse to take my phone out of its case until I get a phone that feels good in the hand without a case.

[@Chronz]

The euphoria I get from watching ur vids is literally a life saver. Just so calming, I can't tell you enough how much this helps my current medical condition. Thank you so much brother

[@homiedogg6415]

Love your review as always. I’ve had horrible experience with Razer. I had a Razer blade 2022 17 inch with 3080ti. Dead pixel and horrible hardware stuttering. Then after great difficulty was able to return. Bought 2nd one, was working fine for few weeks then had issues. Then 3rd one, came with dead pixel. After about 1.5 month the graphics card failed. Luckily was able to return at Best Buy. Got MSI GE 67 with oled screen. Been using it for several months, no issues whatsoever. I’m saying this because Razer has horrible customer service and their products have poor quality control. Worse, I don’t think they have a great engineering team. Their products look great and that’s why people buy them but they should stick to accessories only.

[@AlexDenton0451]

When I said "This thing kinda looks bad for the price, it isn't well focused for any one person" on the SBC Reddit people FLAMED the shit out of me. Honestly? I stand by my point now that so many people have reviewed it.

[@brandon_nope]

I mean you're not wrong the Ayn Odin is a much better value overall

[@AlexDenton0451]

@@brandon_nope this is what I said! They proceeded to say "the Oden is basically the same price as this" lol. I don't think this thing is awful but I don't see the point.

[@GG-fi4ye]

@@AlexDenton0451 ayn odin is much slower. It is a good android tablet for 400$. There arent that many android tablets for 400$ with that level of performance.

[@AlexDenton0451]

@@GG-fi4ye okay but why do you need a tablet that is slightly bigger than your phone over a laptop or phone

[@GG-fi4ye]

@@AlexDenton0451 because i hate modern smartphones and refuse to buy anything after galaxy s9. My phone still fits in my hand and doesnt have holes in the display or weird notches, still has sd card and headphone jack. And it is cheap as well considering that it has 1440p display. Also modern smartphones are expensive af. Why should i buy 1000$ galaxy s23 if i can buy razer edge for 400$ if i want to play some emulators portably. And laptop is quite large and requires to be plugged in most of the time. Also more expensive purchase than edge. This can fit in a pocket or a bag easily but is also larger than a phone if i want some larger display from time to time.

[@AamitMorthos]

Personally, I would like to have a windows and a separate android gaming handheld. I have a 22 ultra and while it's great with emulation and native games, I don't want all of that on my daily driver. Having an android device that's dedicated to gaming. And, yeah, they're other options in this space, this interest me more because I'm a huge fan of a the razer phone and how razer handles android.

[@Fernando-ek8jp]

I'm still happy it exists. It's more competition from a well known brand, one that is not known for being for price conscious people

[@wanggaard]

Aaahhhh! You tempt me / taunt me with the LG V60 again! I almost bought one the first time you mentioned it, re-visited it, and then went down the rabbit hole a third time when mint mobile had their end of the year deals. It took me too long to figure out the T-mobile model was the one to buy to work with Mint. I wanted to get one to use for main mobile, handheld gaming, and replace my shield with something that could play PS2. I did not get there before the deals were gone.

[@retro_spark]

This seems like a pretty cool device but you might as well get an Ayn odin

[@ca9inec0mic58]

Odin is 65% slower that this...

[@retro_spark]

​@@ca9inec0mic58 ok but it's cheaper

[@ca9inec0mic58]

@@retro_spark it's cheaper, yes, but it wont be able to play Xenosaga Episode II on AetherSX2

[@retro_spark]

@@ca9inec0mic58 ok fine

[@retro_spark]

@@ca9inec0mic58 I don't want to play xenosaga episode 2

[@steel5897]

144hz is good for emulation too when it comes to speedup. If you activate sync content to framerate or something like that on Retroarch, and you speed up a game, it's going to display at 144 FPS when fast forwarding which looks really smooth and makes it easier to actually play at 2x and 3x speeds for example.

[@Shigarui]

Russ, someone created a file to have daijisho show Android as a tab just like your emulators. It's SO much better now that I never need to swap tabs, just "emulators." I use it on my 353M and it's as good now as any Linux front-end, plus you get all of the benefits of android gaming and app usage. I'll be installing this on my KTR1 as well.

[@hooptiej]

PS2, GT2, Special Stage Route5 needs to be in your list of test games.

[@arcaderacer586]

Making my popcorn and getting ready for this 45 min extravaganza LOL

[@ck3plays]

What’s also bullshit is when I preordered back in December, the 5G model was listed on their site for $499. And then when I got close to launch, they let Verizon up the price to $699. I don’t want to be tied to anything with a carrier and wanted to buy it unlocked and do month to month as I travel a few times a year.

[@Guitario666]

Hmm, i think you should have done a comparison to the G Cloud. Especially when comparing screen size and aspect ratio

[@nitind]

I think a lot of that can be inferred from his preference for 16:10 and 16:9 screens so that 40% of the display doesn't sit unused when playing classic games. The G Cloud isn't winning when comparing the two for retro emulation, but for streaming it's hands down the better device (and cheaper).

[@Guitario666]

@@nitind agreed, I was looking at it from a streaming angle.

[@Adam-ju4kq]

Its not just the "minor inconvenience" of taking your phone out of its case, its also that your phone is used for just about everything in life playing games with your phone on a kishi is nice until you go to leave somewhere and realize your phone is sec from dying. If you dont know your way you're kind of screwed until you charge it. This isnt intended to be a replacement for a phone its intended to let you use your phone as its intended

[@ulmwurttemberg1682]

24:38 "a lot of us inverted players" made me think of how William S. Burroughs used the word "invert".

[@TheMarslMcFly]

Hey Russ! I always really appreciate your Reviews. I'd love to see you talk about a jailbroken 3DS, like the Review on the modded PS Vita a while ago. Currently I'm really considering to get a New 2DS XL, but I can't really find a good Review that goes over all the Pros and Cons, and well running Emulators, like you always provide it.

[@vilgevorcblack6178]

Me 2

[@lixnnibblez3193]

I am waiting for the Pimax Portal ! I wish i would have seen it in time to get the special pricing tho. Keep doing great things !! 😀

[@jordirapper]

Fair warning. Pimax is notoriously known for their poor software, build quality and poor customer service. Not saying to not keep an eye on it, just be careful with pimax.

[@gortys3929]

ETA Prime has benched this processor and the results are underwhelming. I am surprised that you didn’t include benchmark for the viewers. In the end this is a device for enthusiasts.

[@WheeledHamster]

Bro who gives a shit about ETA Prime, he's a clown that benchmark Auto Modellista on every video and call a purple controller on a Switch a portable GameCube.

[@retrohandhelds]

Ok Russ, I know you're jealous of my Metroid Dread skills, and showed like the ONE part where I let my toddler use the controller, but why did you have to ALSO show my favorite hard shell sandwich case on camera!? These are the tough questions the audience needs answered 🥖🤔😎🥲 - Stubbs

[@mattdavis9601]

So, you're saying your toddler is almost as good at "Metroid Dread" as Russ. 😁

[@retrohandhelds]

@@mattdavis9601 🙃

[@danwichgames]

I have really been loving my 5g so far but their are a lot of things missing. It sucked that it took so long for the edge to get the update for the virtual controller that the normal kishi v2 got weeks before hand. Drivers for skyline and vita3k have been really hit or miss. But when it comes to ps2, Dreamcast,game cube and some wii it really shines. I even find myself playing a lot more android native games and having a blast. For retro titles i have anbernic 35xx with garlic os that matches up with them a lot better. The razer edge to me is more of a multi media centric device than it is a true dedicated gaming handheld. It nice to be able to just use the table part to read a pdf, web brows, or watch a video on break at work without looking like a total nerd like I would doing the same on something like a steam deck or even a ayn Odin. It just feels like a very different market for it compared to a steam deck. You are buying a powerful small android tablet first and getting a pretty great controller add on bundled in.

[@jimmyfallon4237]

How does the emulation fare with the 20 by 9 aspect ratio

[@danwichgames]

@@jimmyfallon4237 I mean I for the most part run stuff that can be scaled to 16:9. Psx, Dreamcast, GameCube, ps2, psp, and what vita I can get running on it look great. I will say it is not the best for 4 by 3 content but I have a 35xx for that stuff. Native android stuff is fantastic. I will say I have not had the best results with gamepass and steamlink even after upgrading to a Wi-Fi 6 router. I now pretty much only use my ayn Odin for streaming games. I don’t know if it is a issues with the Wi-Fi 6 antenna in my unit or something. I speed tested it when I got the new router vs the old one and I was getting my full speed on the edge. Now I am barely breaking 100/100. I can’t say this is true of all units.

[@jimmyfallon4237]

@@danwichgames nice. Thinking about getting teh edge instead of Odin just for the safety of buying from a big brand

[@danwichgames]

@@jimmyfallon4237 I hear that. It is definitely more powerful than the Odin and a lot less of a shipping and service gamble. I have to say I like my Odin for somethings, the razer for others, and the 35xx for different stuff than the other 2. If I had to get by with only one I would probably pick the razer just for the higher power ceiling and the possibility.

[@iclubsealz]

Hell yeah! Representing that V60!

[@gabrielcobb8872]

Got an Edge for closer to $250 at a pawn shop with the money I got from selling some old gear. The aspect ratio isnt always ideal, but the device is super snappy, and being able to run Gamecube games without issue is wonderful. If you can find this device for under $300 its becomes a little more worth it imo. Barring all the shady businesses practices if you can.

[@dairykingofthemidwest4544]

Just got one for 180 😁 I mostly got it for ps2 emulation and in that regard its excellent I am satisfied

[@Brianuuuu]

Hei Russ, great review as always. I'd like to point out that the FPS test on Genshin wont be very accurate to people who actually play it, because the section you played is very much in the early game and the combat situation doesnt really reflect end game fights. Maybe you could borrow a friend's account perhaps? Where they've already unlocked the new region, because my god the load it puts on our phones is insane

[@arkhamslayer7265]

Replying in case it boosts this comment up.

[@AarPlays]

I have an ambernic 353 that I bought, I 3D printed a modified controller holder for it and now it's basically an Xbox controller with a 4:3ish screen. I feel that overall Emulation has 3 generations, before 95, between 95 and 05 and then '15+ onwards. The best combo imo is probably an ambernic and steam deck since one is a handheld beast and the other is a super light emulator with great battery. I wouldn't use a steamdeck for gba, it's just like throwing a 500cc engine on a bicycle

[@RONxSIPPA]

Is it worth it for $250 brand new?

[@jonathanbryant7410]

I pulled the trigger at 250$ on Amazon. In comparing the retroid 4 Pro at nearly the same price, I thought it was a good enough deal. Hoping he chimes in and says it is a good buy @ the sale price.

[@s6rite62]

​@@jonathanbryant7410ikr and considering it runs sm better on Nintendo switch because of all the updates

[@DaringDan]

They're at about $250 now, would you say it's a no brainer to get one at that price or nah? Thanks.

[@JerzyLasica]

Important I/O ports should be accesible with controllers on and the contollers shouldn't drain the battery when the thevice is in sleep mode or standby. This feels like a prototype or version 0. This device needs redesign. edit: I'm gueesing it's not possible to keep it connected to a battery pack with the contoller on?

[@mangaas]

Big bezels = no. That comparison between the the Switch OLED really hammered it home. Its amazing how some companies can put really good tech, into gigantic bezel screens.

[@wordsmith451]

Yes, G3x is just an 8 Gen 1 (not 888) with boosted clocks.

[@flare0152]

XD the way you poke fun at Stubbs. I’ve been curious about this device since it was first announced and I wasn’t exactly sold on getting this. I thought about getting an android phone and hook up a controller to it, but I didn’t wanna deal with the headache of having a carrier different from mine, which is why dedicated handhelds are so appealing. Since I already own the Odin Pro and the Steam Deck, I already have the best of both worlds when it comes to gaming on the go. I was especially surprised at how much less screen you’d get from playing 4:3 content on the RE and having the storage in Fat32 really limits your game library if you have a lot of big ones. The only other device I see myself getting right now would be the RP3+(assuming Retroid doesn’t release a 4 model soon). Anyway awesome review!

[@mattdavis9601]

Just get a used flagship off eBay or Amazon and don't activate it. Unactivated Android phones act like happy little WiFi tablets, no different than a dedicated Android handheld does. I'm on Verizon but my emulation phone is an unactivated AT&T phone. Your Odin Pro uses the SD 845 out of 2017- 2018 flagships (albeit the cooling and GPU overclock means it's going to perform better than any 2018 flagship). An S20FE with the SD865 can be found for low $100-something on eBay in good condition. Phones with the SD855 can be found under $100.

[@michaelmcclintick9541]

Love the time you took and the in depth details!! Great video. Glad I saved my $400!

[@Dsmky117]

it's good to know it falls short as a retro handheld, but I've ordered mine as an android gaming device and I think that's where it will shine.

[@jjayala]

Do you have it yet? I am a clouder and like the wifi 6

[@Dsmky117]

@@jjayala if you want to play android games, it’s a beast. Otherwise, I’d prefer steam deck or something like that. I use it to exclusively play PUBG Mobile and the control mapping works pretty well

[@jjayala]

@Dsmky117 while I respect the deck I do not want that for streaming games

[@PaulBloyd]

I got this because I wanted a dedicated device for streaming. I have fast Wi-Fi, so it runs great. We’ll worth it for me, so I guess I’m the “who is it for.” Lol

[@Bushidounohana]

The GOAT tech KZbinr, hands down. Seriously. Between the in-depth content AND cameos for cats, margarine,and Vinn Diagrams, nobody beats Russ. Even though I’m not the target demographic for this device-I’m happy with my handheld situation between my PS Vita and my Steam Deck-each and every Retro Game Corps video is worth watching start to finish. Bravo. Interesting fun fact-the Razer Edge branding was initially used on their maiden voyage into tablet gaming with a larger, Windows-based device several years ago. Interesting that Razer shifted to Android and something far more pocketable. I agree with your conclusive question-“Who is this for?” I don’t know the Android space very well, but are folks willing to pay a Steam Deck price for the platform and portability? Might this have turned out more intriguing if the hardware mirrored Razer’s prior Edge-an x86 handheld entering going toe-to-toe with the Deck proper?

[@ehrenloudermilk1053]

I just got my leather skin. I'm super jealous of your patina.

[@jj515789]

I’m not the biggest fan of the Kishi design but I really like the new Gamevice flex. Would you really recommend pairing the LG V60 ThinQ with the Gamevice Flex over getting the Razer Edge?

[@PygmySurfer]

I don't understand Razer's thought process here. Why make the controller detachable? I guess it kinda future proofs it, as you could attach it to a different phone in the future, but otherwise it just costs more than an all-in-one device would. If they were using the existing Kishi v2 it might make sense, but this is a different variant, so they have to manufacture both of these now, which is going to cost more.

[@cr082080]

All you have to do is make it stretch it to fit the screen. As long as you have a high PPi device and running at a descent internal resolution it will look very good.

[@theoblongbox4909]

I wish you had done a direct comparison of it with a regular flagship phone (like iPhone 14 or google pixel) as far as screen size and gaming. The one you used in the video is a 'gaming phone' so it's a little different.. I think for most people, it's competing against the phone more than anything.

[@gregorybolivar5712]

As of Android platform... AYN Odin 256gb internal storage and 8gb of ram Pro model is the best way to go... Since Vita3K emulator is out... those little 64gb storage internal is out of commission... Due to update and games installation...🧐🤔... Steam deck is Linux platform... AYA Neo series...GPD... One X Player... AYN Lucky are Windows Platform... Choose base on your need and $$$... And enjoy your game... Me, just rocking with my Sammy Tab S7 11" 256gb internal and 512gb Sammy Evo micro-Sd Card... because I enjoy Drawing Tablet and Light Retro Gaming using Emulators for PSX...PSP...PS2... DREAMCAST...SNES...N64... GAME CUBE AND WII... Also, I can connect to a smart Tv or Monitor as second or larger screen by using a dongle with USB-C input and HDMI output... While using a DS4/DS5...or... Xbox X/S wireless Controller... 🤔🧐🤓😎

[@gordface]

I like the extra wide screen because Ill play a 4by3 game on one side and a stream or video on the other, but that is just me

[@Samuel313991]

I would say that the 2-6 hours of battery life playing on a Steam Deck aren't necessarily a bad thing here, since that's coming directly from the kind of games you're playing. If you're someone who's gonna be playing mostly emulated systems and low-demanding games, like myself, that battery life can go up to 7h41 mins in my experience when emulating mostly GBA. If you really wanted to play some very specific android games I don't think that an Android emulator is completely out of the question with a Steam Deck and overall your game library is always gonna be much wider at that same price point. As you've mentioned, using a Razer Kishi isn't that different to using the Edge and honestly, I think that the people who fall under the very specific use case of the Edge have a much better array of options at lower prices too

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

This thing is basically a defined and smaller version of an Nvidia Shield Tablet K1

[@michaelw5456]

I don't see a market for this device, With the new Snapdragon Gen 2 coming out. a Razr Kishi V2 and a Samsung S23 ( as a main phone that you need anyways ), also there's a Redmagic Pro 8 with the Gen 2 snapdragon. Both of these device's cost more, but are also Phones in and of themselves and the Redmagic Pro 8 at least has a 6500mah battery but crappy cameras.

[@theanimerican]

The more I look at the Razor Edge, the more that it's optimized to play native android games primarly. That would mean this device would be for someone who mostly plays native android games and wants a handheld specifically for that purpose, rather than use their phone. Gotta admit, while I have my own share of consoles, something like this makes me tempted to really explore what's on play pass. Oddly enough, this means the Edge's real competition might just be android tablets.

[@alexgonzalez9053]

Honestly, if I had preordered the WiFI model I would just have gone a bit on a "Karen mode" and told Razer to shove the thing up their asses and give me a full refund. If I order a product and recieve less than what I ordered then I don't want it. If they make a mistake it's their fault, not the customers.

[@rassular]

One thing that should be mentioned is that the Performance Mode is actually useless, it never actually improves performance, just changes the CPU Governor to Performance which just makes it less efficient.

[@kyos2000]

Only men of the highest standards play inverted. Glad to hear that you are one of us!!

[@danebeee1]

The ram specs were only fixed to the correct number AFTER people complained about it. When people bought it they thought it was 8gb not 6gb because at the time that’s what it said on the website. They only fixed it after that.

[@blami8]

The controller is the Razer Kishi V2 Pro, also sold separately

[@elixxur]

I play inverted. When I was a game tester that actually came in handy.

[@crestofhonor2349]

Personally the wider aspect ratio and having black bars just doesn’t bother me

[@rolanddes]

Hi Ross. Great review as always. On another note, I know a lot of people would love to see a Raspberry pi 4 setup and review from you. Any plans?

[@DavidNicholson101]

I don’t really get the problem with running 4 x 3 games on systems like the Razer edge, or any smart phone or display for that matter. I personally prefer playing them at their original resolution. I play MMPR Fighting Edition on it from the SNES, and the controls were already configured. I did a little better than I usually do because of the physical controls. I love the Razer Edge. One advantage it has over steam deck is taking it out of the controller and using it like a typical Android device on the go. All that being said, I’m not sure if I’ll be getting an Android phone again after paying off my iPhone or sticking with iOS and getting another Android gaming device. Oh, and I got it through Verizon.

[@adrianastro1]

Does the device have any kind of mechanism to keep the left side of the tablet sliding against the controller, like a notch?

[@JasonwithaJay]

For the cost of the 5G, you could get a telescoping controller and a Galaxy S20 Ultra.

[@BaBboonking]

I'll just get the Lenovo gaming tablet ETA made a video about awhile back.

[@conandude76]

I keep seeing it, so I finally had to comment. When doing your dragon punch you don't go all the way back to forward again you go to down forward and I've been watching you you go swing your finger all the way back to forward and that's why you're getting Fireballs over Dragon punches a lot of the turns

[@wordsmith451]

If this were a properly integrated device with a better aspect ratio then it would be more compelling. I'm sick of these phone-with-attachment devices - not only is the screen real estate wasted, the thing is super long and clunky. Why the hell is it so hard to find a 3x2 screen and slap the internals into a case with buttons?!

[@JerzyLasica]

IT SHOULD COME with a kickstand if they make it with detachable controlers. Not make a buyer shell out another 10-20$.

[@joeeblack4]

You plan on reviewing the new game vice controller? It looks like it has the best ergonomics by far so I’m just curious if you’ll try it

[@L33tSkE3t]

With the RoG Ally with the AMD Ryzen Z1 Extreme, 16GB of RAM and 512GB of Storage now going for $699, this just doesn’t make sense. I might still buy the Kishi V2 over a BackBone for my S23 Ultra though.

[@bryanmilstid4087]

What about this versus the G Cloud?

[@rushmore3927]

The display ratio makes no apparent sense. The only thing that would fit is widescreen movies, but the corners are curved, so messes that up. The $600 price is WAY overpriced IMO compared to the competition. Get a Deck and a Retroid Pocket 3+ for $50 less! Added: I'm guessing epic discounts on this, unless Verizon has a deal with Razer to be able to return them.

[@jwill7998]

That aspect ratio is a bit longer than I'd refer. I'd also prefer one cohesive unit rather than a tablet with a detachable controller.

[@TomasVasquez]

If it was supposed to be a gaming device, why not make the controls fixed instead of detachable? The video title is the perfect definition of the Razer Edge. Who is This for?

[@johnwilson7680]

Thanks for the great review. I am 16 minutes in and can already tell this device won't work for me. If they just made an android version more similar to the Nintendo switch, they would get my money. The lack of 16 x 9 really makes this unappealing to me.

[@250xero]

Great video but where did you get the atomic purple joycons for the swtich?

[@krisflank5413]

This would have been the best Android gaming device if it was all in one gaming handheld console, not a tablet with a controller?! Why?

[@luisbracero2221]

I would love to see a comparison video on the razer edge,pimax and odin Witch one would you recommend for emulation?

[@coomehn]

Nice review 👍.

[@youzernejm]

Honestly, I watched this review because it was an RGC video, not because I care about the device. I'm not in the USA, so it's probably easier for me to get a Retroid (not to mention cheaper). It's got one major plus compared to smartphone gaming - you're not wasting your main phone's battery. That's the only plus. It's just another big phone sized device to carry, with phone like qualities. Without the phone part. It's a gigantic no for me.

[@HarryPujols]

By the way, there’s a TomToc sling designed for the Steam Deck and it works like a charm.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Yes it's great, I did a video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iprNgn2AnN1oapI

[@mattdavis9601]

A couple of questions and a comment: I noticed when you were going through the Nexus app that you had "Grid: Autosport". I've been playing it using a GameSir X2 Pro. The game doesn't recognize the analog triggers as anything other than buttons. To get analog throttle and brake I had to map those controls to the right stick like old Gran Turismos. Which is fine; but, I'm wondering, is the Kishi V2 similarly limited? Android since 10 has had a basic desktop mode built-in unless it's been specifically removed by the manufacturer. You can access it through Developer Options. Does that work on the Edge and do scaling properly? I enjoyed your review. Honestly; I actually really like what I'm seeing with the Razer. I don't much like the price, but, I don't like the Deck at any price. If I'm paying that much for a handheld anything it'd better be able to make a phone call or have a screen the size of a pizza. You ask who this is for, it's for someone who doesn't have a Steam account, who doesn't do much with PCs in general, and who is heavily invested in the Android ecosystem. Basically, it's for me. I wish the aspect ratio was more rational for emulation (18:9 like a 2018 flagship would've been a decent compromise between Android gaming and retro gaming) and I wish the Verizon version had full telephony so I could just have one do it all device. But, the Deck can't do those things either and it's comically big too. I think I'd really love the Edge, just not at launch pricing.

[@rometherevenant8749]

I tried to be fair with this device on both sides of the spectrum and got shit for it.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Hi Matt, thanks for the questions and suggestions. Playing Grid: Autosport works perfectly, the controls register automatically and the triggers are recognized as analog. It's a wonderful experience! You are able to force desktop mode via the Developer Options, thanks for the tip. When testing it out, it provided a second screen on my output monitor, that was the generic Razer wallpaper. It output to a 20:9 aspect ratio, just like when mirroring the screen.

[@mattdavis9601]

@@RetroGameCorps Thank you for testing "Grid" for me and letting me know it's my controller and not the game that's acting up. The X2 Pro does the same thing in the Redream emulator and I had to use QuickEdit Pro to tweak the configuration files to manually tell it to recognize the triggers as an axis instead of as buttons. I couldn't find controller bindings in the config files of "Grid". Right stick drive works fine though. And the X2 Pro works flawlessly with every other game and emulator, so I'm still really happy with it.

[@mr_fuji_mintsmr_fuji_mints9873]

I commute to work 1 our each way, and sometimes i sleep at the job and pick up a second shift, so ultimately the best thing for me is that I always have a constant 5g Verizon connection with great speed, and I even have shadow PC on it and it works great, so i guess it's pretty cool for commuters, again the coolest thing for me is the 5g to go.

[@DaPohli]

Russ, are you running a 3ds dev kit on that lovely CRT in the background? 🙂👍

[@hamzasultan96]

My experienced opinion: ARM chips belong in portable devices where battery matters. X86 belongs on a desk. This device isn't worth the 400$ asking price but it along with the new chip is a good concept for future ARM based devices not made by the walled prison brand. Small footnote: People may be able setup a class action or at least a false advertising suit against Razer here. I'm not a lawyer but as far as I'm aware. You don't get to send an email after the fact about it being an error on your site. It would be another thing if the device looked different in colour than the website and they had a tiny message at the bottom of the product page saying "product may look different to the naked eye." There, they could say they had the message. Here, they only "corrected" the "mistake" after you had already purchased the product, and in a scummy way, forcing you to buy from them again if you wanted to be reimbursed partially.

[@ryansease7066]

So, I have a Edge that I have on order. I want to do Android gaming and emulation into the PS2 range. Should I cancel my order, and if so what should I try and get. Suggestions would be very much appreciated. Take care and keep up the great and amazing videos.

[@Whatsup_Abroad]

kinda seems like a piece of shit ngl. Of you want android gaming and emulation to ps2 the pimax portal looks good. The company seems to have done a pretty solid job with it.

[@mattdavis9601]

I actually really like the Edge. I'm only not buying now because of financial considerations. I use an older Android flagship (LG V35) paired with a GameSir X2 Pro controller (it's like a better Kishi V2 - bigger triggers and a much wider brace that means it's not nearly as wobbly). With PS1 and PS2 games, quite a few (especially the latter) had native widescreen and I've had good luck in that most of the games I want to play so far that didn't have native widescreen have patches instead. My advice, if you're having second thoughts about the Edge then look into the Ayn Odin Pro or buy a used late model flagship from eBay, Amazon Renewed, or Swappa and pair it up with the GameSir X2 Pro controller.

[@xt6997]

another reason why razor has a bad rep is that their products dont last very long. especially their laptops.

[@MilkLegScoop]

I got the 5G model because Verizon had a 250 off promo on the payment plan, so it will be 350 after it is all paid off. I am liking it so far, but I keep having small issues with it like my esim will stop working until I reset the power.

[@Dracossaint]

Does it also work a phone?

[@MilkLegScoop]

@@Dracossaint No it doesn't have messaging or phone apps.

[@iseptimus]

I want one, or something like it. Don’t need a steam deck any longer, and just want it for emulation. Plus it’s always nice to have an Android device handy (mainly use iOS).

[@DragonDreamVNY]

*gasp* the StramDeck honeymoon phase is over 😭 I still love mine since I use it ally for emulation too. HD textures and Xenoblade Chronicles X, Windwaker, Obscure fantranslated JRPGs 😅

[@ca9inec0mic58]

@@DragonDreamVNY time for Valve to release a new one

[@Whatsup_Abroad]

@@ca9inec0mic58 A new one? Dude you are gonna be waiting a while. You have G.A.S. gear acquisition syndrome. They said they would do another with a bigger battery, but that's probably a revision not a new model. A while new one, why? They are supporting the original like crazy, they couldn't possibly do that across more than one set of hardware. You are out of luck

[@ca9inec0mic58]

@@Whatsup_Abroad no it's just that with a new model or even a revision there is a chance my country will get the steam deck

[@JustAFatGuyInTX]

Did this ever get updated to fix the scaling so you don't have any black bars when outputting to HDMI?