RBS 70 | The Swedish style of MANPADS

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[@wiktorberski9272]

Really interesting weapon, as many types of weapons constructed in Sweden

[@AdurianJ]

The 57mm autocannon left service in the 1960's long before the RBS 70 entered service. The 40mm guns where retained up until around 2000 in parallel with RBS 70 because they had all weather capability as they used Radar. The PS-90/Girfaffe-75 was the radar for the RBS-90 system and for some 40mm batteries initially. The RBS 70 never left Swedish service only the RBS-90 system did and this was brought back a few years ago. Before leaving service the RBS-90 system was part of mixed RBS-70/90 battalions on the divisional level.

[@znail4675]

The 57mm is mainly a naval cannon and it's still in use on the most modern Swedish ships.

[@AdurianJ]

@@znail4675 Yes but this is the army version 57mm lvakan m/54

[@smygulf]

Old rbs-90 operator here! Glad to hear my old friend have re entered the battle role 👍Its a nice little kit :) ( allthough we were assigned alongside a HAWK missile company )

[@xifel72]

40 mm guns are still in use, although they are mounted on CV90s. And the CV90 LVKV still is an anti-air system

[@AdurianJ]

@@xifel72 Wrong type, the discussion is about the towed AA version, also the Lvk90 lacks a fire control radar so it's not all weather capable..

[@benoitnadeau5845]

Canada is joining the RBS70ng club, it was confirmed in February 2024.

[@TheRealBillBob]

Why would Canada buy a 40 year old system?

[@slatterkarlen_5443]

​@@TheRealBillBobObviously no one else has been able to do anything better for 40 years. Then it may be that there has been some development of the weapon during this time.

[@vicolin6126]

@@TheRealBillBob They DID say that the RBS 70 NG was made in 2011, so this version is not even close to 40 years old :)

[@znail4675]

@@TheRealBillBob Because 40 year old Swedish weapons are better then the latest US made ones.

[@RaXXha]

@@TheRealBillBob The version currently on sale is not 40 years old, just like the current version of the Carl Gustav recoilless rifle isn't 76 years old. They've been improved continously over the years, the latest version of the RBS 70 missile was introduced in 2011.

[@znail4675]

With drones and cruise missiles being more popular so is this an interesting system as the missile is cheaper then other systems due to complex control systems are housed in the launcher instead of the missile.

[@satanihelvetet]

RBS 70 was initially combined with the 20 mm lv-akan (AA autocannon) m/40 in the half platoon AA-units in the AA-batalion in the Swedish army brigade. So there was two RBS 70 and two 20 mm AA-guns in each AA-platoon.

[@DeltaStar777]

In the Infantry Brigade 77 system it was actually a SAM/AA Company consisting of 3 platoons with 3 troops (tropp) each consisting of 1 RBS70 and 1 20mm cannon. The Company could either be kept together or split for example with 1 platoon per Infantry Battalion. Later a RBS90 Company was added expanding the Brigade resource to a SAM Battalion

[@AdurianJ]

@@DeltaStar777 That seems like a leftover from the IB66 organisation which used RB69 and 20mm Lvakan, only the RBS69 was switched out for RBS70

[@DeltaStar777]

@@AdurianJ could be, the 20mm was to protect the FAP (trucks/logistics point)

[@habahan4257]

Thanks. It is the most comprehensive RBS 70 video, I have ever seen. So many mounted versions. Even though its photo is bad, the Chetaa is very interesting. Is it still in service?

[@WeaponDetective]

Thanks for your kind comment. As we know, the Chetaa was produced in small number in the 1980s and is no longer in service.

[@kasperivesalainen5462]

Very good pronunciation of ilmatorjuntaohjus!

[@lucianohelvecioteixeira.9995]

Resumindo Necessidade de defesa + vontade política e empresarial + capacidade e tecnologia = RBS 70 Brasil usa esse armamento Parabéns Dectetive

[@miskaknapek]

Thank you again for good Swedish coverage - looking forward to you doing RBS--15 :) A much undervalued anti-ship (and possibly land->land ) missile.

[@PhilipRFB]

My grandpa was in charge of developing and creating the optic system! He is turning 88 this year.

[@mightyrighty1]

I dont know if you read comment but in case you do i love your show, expecially when you do stuff operating in Ukraine. Thanks for your work

[@aesbj9228]

4:34 FIKA! 😆

[@acmelka]

Anyone else get an Airline ad in this? Talking about MANPADS then I see Air Asia. Took me a second to realize it was an ad

[@morgansjodin4859]

10 sec....

[@TheNighthawk00]

Just looking at the thing, the "man portable" part is questionable.

[@habahan4257]

As the video suggested

[@dannyzero692]

it is still man portable, albeit you need several men to carry it but you won't need a dedicated vehicle. It trades portability for range, firepower and flexibility as it can fulfill the task of the MANPADS and SHORAD at the same time. The beam riding guidance makes countermeasures pretty much useless compared to traditional infrared and radar missiles because the warhead isn't guiding itself but the operator on the ground is, hence why they need a tri-pod to stabilize the aiming system.

[@MrGunnar69]

Everything is portable, you just need enough men.

[@habahan4257]

@@MrGunnar69 🤣

[@Eleolius]

It's a crew served pack SAM.

[@Sir_Godz]

more of a crew operated system than man portable. To me man portable should be defined as foot patrol capable/practical by a single soldier if necessary. The viet cong hauled howitzers up mountain trails, therefore man portable??

[@habahan4257]

Good point. I think "pack air defence system" is more suitable. Like "pack howitzer".

[@znail4675]

Machine guns are often crew operated, but none calls them not man portable?

[@yt45204]

Man portable to me means that you can break it down into pieces weighing not more than 20-30kg, and carried separately by single soldiers.

[@znail4675]

@@yt45204 That means machineguns are not man portable if operated by team that shares the load.

[@yt45204]

@@znail4675 Why? Do the pieces weigh more than 30 kg? Do you guys use a Bofors 40 mm cannon as a machine gun?

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

Another wonderful video about RBS- 70 ...Anti -aircraft Swedish manpad System .video clearly explained all characteristics of that successful weapon in short range. Also explained its historical backgrounds...thank you🙏 ( weapon detective 🕵️‍♂️) channel for sharing

[@robertmaheu7583]

and canada finally bought some to make it our first real aaa system in 30 years

[@latmask00]

4:33 Fika!

[@christopherchristianvanlan1809]

RBS 90 and RBS 99 are other variants

[@Tiax776]

Slightly longer range than a Stinger but bulkier.

[@ulfpe]

Also there was HAWK missile batteries

[@nathanruben3372]

Manpad with luxury of lazychair. It must be too tiring to stand and look into sky...

[@matso3856]

If you ever do something over long period of time , you will experience lactic acid in your muscles. Its hard to explain to someone who have never experienced it but trust me everything becomes insanely much harder to do

[@ahafeel]

I have read that the RBS70 was/is deployed on naval platforms. I Can't seem to recollect the role they were supposed to fill. I'm guessing it was against low flying anti ship cruise missiles or probably against small IED boats/ sea drones..

[@jimbo3207]

Australia deployed them on supply ships for general air defence in the 2nd Gulf War.

[@ahafeel]

@@jimbo3207 thank you for the clarification..

[@prolebenz251]

Thats not a manpad thats a menpad

[@robertmaheu7583]

lol its made extreme combat performances like shooting down cruise missiles lol

[@onetruekeeper]

Looks sort of heavy.

[@Sammy-forgetaboutit-Tony]

I play arma 3 alot, and rbs 70 kick MAJOR ass, waaaaaaaay better than igla and stingers.

[@donalddouglas5988]

No real performance data

[@achyutgawade1668]

❤sir please make video on Tejas mk1a fighter jet in detail

[@WeaponDetective]

Thanks for your interest. Here is our Tejas video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoLHqYqsgdtliNk

[@sachinmesta4238]

MANPADS are good against enemy aircraft, drones, missiles etc, but one should also consider value of cost. RBS-70 missile would be updward of US$ 3 million but an armed drone can be cheap, from say US$ 5000 up, so attrition cost will end up being higher to take it down. Drones do not fly very high, so imagine taking down Drone that costs $ 5000 with missile that costs 3 million, for say taking down 1000 drones, the cost to drone operators $5 million but cost to missiles $3 billion !!! But on the other hand a modernised Bofors 40 mm gun linked to targeting radar will be way cheap to use, & able to take down the target at much cheaper cost. So I think the 40mm or even higher caliber guns with better programable ammo can be more cost worthy than missile specially for cheap targets liek drones.

[@znail4675]

The entire system costs $3 million but the missile is not the main cost in that as one of the main advantages of the system is that the missile is simpler without a seeker as it's the launcher that steers the missile.

[@janssonsamuel8005]

Yes and no. 40mm system or 57mm system going to cost more to build.you want build go wagon for it say a cv90. And in the end you going to want some kind off radar on every unit. so a cost of 10.000.000 to 30.000.000. And the missile cost is 100.000 for every unit. So you can shoot 70 to 300 missiles for every unit before you are on cv9040AA start cost. So you can buy more off RBS70. It have a longer range. easy to hide. And going to less off a target for the enemy. And a RBS70 can take down more targets. Think a quad 5ocal like in ww2 with a moderns sight on a toyota pickup had been good ide. low cost and it only roll is anti dron.

[@yamahass66]

And a drone did strike a 200 milion radar system in Russia. What is your point?

[@janssonsamuel8005]

@@yamahass66 That is the problem that get miss. not the cost off the shoot but the cost off the hit. And the battlefield in UA is so big that you need diffrent system. And he miss in the cost. it is 100.000.000. but you miss every thing. And UA send 1000 drone in only need hit stuff for 100.000.000 or force them to use money to shoot down your and 100 milions go fast in war. like you sad one radar system is 200 milions.

[@marcchartrand36]

I think Canada just purchased this piece of junk, does not look that portable to me, if Canada did buy it, it must be cheap.

[@74Darkman]

It is definately not "junk", which was proven in Ukraine. All weapon systems have their pros and cons, right? In this case the definite advantage of the RBS 70 is that it is unjammable. Not affected by chaff, flares or anything else.

[@wmtford4043]

Canada is buying this system because it requires something urgently to help protect the multinational brigade in Latvia. Canada likely held a very limited competition in which the primary driver was how quickly vendors could deliver a functional system. (Raytheon was quickly ruled out because it was busy replenishing US Army stocks of the Stinger MANPADS, so many of which had been sent to Ukraine. Who knows what offers Thales or MBDA put together.) Canada will eventually purchase a more comprehensive ground-based air defence solution for its army. But for the immediate requirement, the Saab offer of RBS 70NG was evidently judged the best. When so many nations are chasing so few vendors, choices will inevitably be limited.

[@thantzweaung9080]

This channel loves to label random unknown weapons from Nordic countries, which are never proven in action & has no market success, as "legends". They are, were & will never be anywhere near legend status in reality. (Some weapons from that part of the world are actual legends. i.e., Karl Gustaf recoilless gun, Bofor 40 mm machine-canon)

[@WeaponDetective]

Thanks for your interest. The word "legend" is just a generic expression for our videos for older systems. Yet, the RBS 70 has already proven itself in combat. Interestingly, only Swedish systems have bothered you. Could you share the reason, please? The Tiger class boats and Crotale missiles also have no legendary combat records.

[@Moondoggymungmung]

@@WeaponDetective Maybe mad they all joined NATO or maybe mad nations with such tiny populations and budgets are able to produce such systems.

[@thantzweaung9080]

@@WeaponDetective A weapon is a legend only if it actually can successfully defend its user nation. The whole "weapon legend" label on this channel became somewhat annoying when the MiG 29 video came out. Many people are alive because their nations were not invaded simply for operating about 20 MiG 29. & this channel tries to label the MiG 29 as failure. No Nordic nation (maybe except Norway) has been under real threat of invasion after 1945, regardless of their military capabilities. & I haven't watch every video on the channel. Sorry.

[@magnusk4352]

@@thantzweaung9080 "No Nordic nation (maybe except Norway) has been under real threat of invasion after 1945, regardless of their military capabilities." This is simply not true. The reason for the relative stability in the Baltic region during the cold war is that Sweden had the fourth largest air force and navy. The USSR simply couldn't attack. It's really that simple.

[@thantzweaung9080]

@@magnusk4352 USSR was never that strong, it couldn't even install friendly political allies in Finland in 1945, let alone invade a nation with no land border. NATO was also busy elsewhere. Scandinavia was simply not worth the cost of invasion. Most invasions post WW2 are escalations of proxy conflicts. No local forces, no invasion from global/regional coalitions.

[@ja37d-34]

Used in ukraine..

[@marcodelguerra]

After everything that is happening in the Dombass..isn't it time to stop with the wonder weapons of the west? just asking

[@hansericsson7058]

Do you mean HIMARS or PATRIOT or Ceasar or NASAMS or what do you mean?

[@marcodelguerra]

@@hansericsson7058 I mean EVERYTHING! But I am pretty sure that we are going to see how incredible the F 16 is!

[@EggwardEgghands]

You mean with Russia's 500k losses in their 3 years of the "3 day operation"?

[@marcodelguerra]

@@EggwardEgghands you people are stupid! Good thing is that you can't defeat reality! and just to go on your crazy rationality.......Russia lost 27 million people and still won WW2...they can take 500 thousand! And nice name EGG HEAD!

[@eneseren25]

Say that to the Russians