Say what you want about Traxxas and that time they hurt your feelings but the TRX4 just downright performs and their lexan bodies are some of the nicest in rc period.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
They have the nicest lexan for sure.
@paulbricklayer44912 жыл бұрын
Traxxas is pretty much the iPhone of the rc world
@ChrisGorman872 жыл бұрын
I feel like Traxxas kicked some ass when they made the 2021 bronco. I think it’s the best scale detailed body but this new k10 is a very close runner up! Great video Francis as you went over everything I had questions about. I am sure I will be buying the red one as soon as it’s available!
@paulbricklayer44912 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisGorman87 I don’t know why they would waste their time making that body it was a total waste
@twanmcnasty40122 жыл бұрын
Thinking about naming my first born Traxxas.👍
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
Strongly recommend the traxxas trx4. It has survived 1 or 2 batteries daily for 18 months. Very few broken parts. Driven hard and plenty of roll overs and hill climbing. The unlocking diffs make this a fun sport truck. It does wheelies stock on 3s. Drag brake adjustable 0 , 50 , 100 setting.
@westernsharpie2 жыл бұрын
so much nicer seeing when people scale drive it instead of ripping overs like a 12 year old is driving it. Good review, awesome truck. Nice having a bull low crawling speed.
@willfitzgerald18 Жыл бұрын
look how young rc life keeps you
@RCReviewChannel Жыл бұрын
Haha. Never forget the art of playing
@JViello Жыл бұрын
Okay okay...1. The smile on your face says it all! 2. I grew up in the 80's (10yo to 20yo) and I am a SUCKER for the Chevy Box. I think I will buy my first Traxxas. Right now it's between the High Trail Chevy and the Phoenix kit. (I want portals and will scrap electrics anyway in the RTR.) This TRX4 is *gorgeous!* I mean, WOW!! I almost hate to bang it up! I've got 2 gen 8's (1 AXE Edition), 2 GMades, SCX-10.2, A Yokomo MOA rock crawler (Japan Only) and a pile of custom built MOA, Cage body and TVP vehicles. I was **this** close to buying a TRX4 Sport, but the brand new (At the time) Gen8 got me with the Scout II body and honestly RedCat was always good to me with other vehicles. I have to buy for myself and two boys, it can get expensive QUICK! They got started at 8 and 10 so RedCat Everest and Rockslide was perfect for them to learn on back in 2017 without going bankrupt. lol Choices! ARG!
@roadrash762 жыл бұрын
I bought the red one and have already modified it with some simple scale bits. I added a For Sale sign to the back window with 867-5309 as the number to call. A beer keg and two wood pallets added to the bed for a bit of flair. I changed the shocks to Desert Lizard shocks in Red. It’s a great looking truck.
@Thetreefella Жыл бұрын
Hahaha...love it man!! Very nice touches!!!👊👍
@Jasonoid2 жыл бұрын
I love my TRX4! I wish I had more time to take it out! It's cool to see them make new models... They are a bit expensive but I feel the quality is high.
@leec4402 жыл бұрын
I picked mine up in McKinney TX yesterday 😀 was out there for work so I stopped by and picked up a black one. First traxxas rig I've bought but love them square bodies!
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Chevy Cheyenne from McKinney
@leec4402 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel yes. That's where I got mine from. Is that suprising? Did I do something wrong? I love your videos but if I did something wrong I apologize
@billymz282 жыл бұрын
I've had my trx blazer and wife has the bronco almost a year now. And I'm amazed that the mirrors , door handles and wipers are all still on and not broke yet. Only issue I've had I was driving in sand then water the motor locked up. Got it freed up ran motor In a cup of water reoiled and still running.
@kinglou54422 жыл бұрын
this truck is going to change the game
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of what we needed in trail trucks.
@brianmassey75632 жыл бұрын
A mild 2.2, extended wheelbase, and good shocks with more clearance, seem to do the trick. I've been running the lift kit on my Bronco with 1.9's and it's great. I think the extended wheelbase is what set this apart (plus the new style body clips).
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Ourt thoughts exactly.
@lornefrancis92312 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are always entertaining I can tell u actually enjoy the hobby and see u get excited about new things I bought a trx4 sport because of your reviews and I love it pretty modded now more strict crawler .take care and have a awsome day
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! We are playing with toys and enjoying life so I'm stoked and excited always.
@lornefrancis92312 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel yes people forget that I am 44 was into nitro for years got tired of them was getting like work i am a mechanic as well so i was over the nitro my buddy showed me how much better new brushless stuff was and I was hooked again that few years ago I spend more on rc trucks than my real truck proites lol.thank you very much for the quick reply I bin sub for over year and half maybe 2. Time fiies look foward to your videos and the custom master peaces that you and your crew build that my favorite part modifying
@byronwins10342 жыл бұрын
I did a lift and 2.2s on one of my trx4s and I too was amazed on how well it actually climbs. And the ground clearance makes it very nice. I did add a tiny bit of weight to the axles and widened it a touch which also really helped the stability.
@stevendauber31662 жыл бұрын
I did the same with my sport.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
We didn't have good luck with our Bronco lift many years ago. Spring rate and balance are key i guess.
@byronwins10342 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel you think that this new model performs better then your bronco build? If so why?
@danielli9592 жыл бұрын
what brass weights did u add and how much wider?...
@byronwins10342 жыл бұрын
@@danielli959 it wasn’t a ton of weight, I think just the brass portal covers and the brass wheel extenders that came with the widening kit. And I believe it was just over a 1/4 wider per side.
@jerryvolpini79872 жыл бұрын
Very cool truck, good on the trail or for crawling! 😎 I can't believe I'm saying this about a Traxxas vehicle but a really good value, as well! Not a big fan of 2-speed trucks with all the bells and whistles (regardless of brand) but this one just might find its way into my stable! 👍 Thanks for a thorough review!
@Joenoblocks2 жыл бұрын
I remember back when you were making bike rack videos
@fishnrc2942 жыл бұрын
This will be my next RC unless Redcat releases one before I order one in a few days. This has got to be one of the best looking trucks I’ve seen & in stock form it’s performance is impressive. I applaud Traxxas it is a great truck.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Looking at my videos out of the box, I was floored how good it looked.
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
Redcat hard to get parts at local hobby shop. All parts must be special ordered.
@boldrbangr98342 жыл бұрын
The rig looks awesome! The grill & other hard plastic details really make it. The internal body clips are great too. I can't understand why Traxxas went to such great lengths to make the body scale & then omitted clear windows.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, someone needs to reamed there!
@ToGrimmToWin2 жыл бұрын
Money lol they want to sell unpainted bodies so you can get clear windows. If they sell the rtr with clear windows less people will buy them.
@DoubleADay2 жыл бұрын
I have a Bronco 79 with the long arm kit light springs and no bump stops. It articulates and crawls so good now. So long story short, I now own the K10 High Trail. Installing Vitavon axle housings on it before I even run (they were for the Bronco until I seen this release)
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
Lets us know if you like it.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
love it
@Boos2d2 жыл бұрын
Picked mine up On friday. Had some time to get it out today. It definitely drew a crowd. My friend had a pretty sweet scx bronco out there but the crowd loved the traxxas cheyenne more. Unfortunately i flipped and rashed it up on the body and bumpers a few times rock crawling so its no longer shelf pretty anymore.
@chester82gtstang Жыл бұрын
I just picked one up and love it!. The wife got the Bronco. Ordered the brass portal covers, and light kits.
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
So cool to see scale trucks. I remember when the industry only made pan cars.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
That's why the hobby is growing
@roadrash762 жыл бұрын
The customs removal at 4:55 was the expected and a nice touch RC Review. 👍
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
Will pick this truck up when traxxas makes a ford body. My first pick up truck after college was an old ford that was rolled 2 times. I had so much fun in that truck. I went off roading almost daily when i was in construction.
@voodootrucker2 жыл бұрын
Just like their original Bigfoot body but big enough for this chassis would be perfect.
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
@@voodootrucker what is wheel base of the big foot traxxas. They make the bigfoot wheels and tires.
@voodootrucker2 жыл бұрын
@@allmightygreat1892 270mm/10.6”
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Too short. My lady friend was an original promoter for big foot when she packed madison square garden for the first time event there. A legend was born. This new traxxas is outstanding.
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
I got all 7 of my trucks due to your reviews
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
That is a great, great compliment. I hope I haven't steered you wrong yet.
@allmightygreat18922 жыл бұрын
All good. Enjoy the new hobby of scale trucks. I was a clay track and asphalt racer since the first rc10 gold tub. The scx24 was first crawler to see if i like driving slow. It reminds me of an old battery chain driven toy jeep called a mighty mike from the late 1960s i had. All our tracks in north il. Closed. Its a 2 hour drive to nearest 5 tracks. Cant justify dropping 60$ in gas to drive 4 hours to play rc. Rock crawling can be enjoyed local at construction sites. I am impressed how you text me so fast. I envy your weather. We get winter here. Enjoy the holiday. I travel with 3 trcuks in my pick up 10 months per year, always ready to crawl. Thank you for introducing me to a new hobby. I am 9 years late to the crawling party.
@glennjthompson3322 жыл бұрын
😁The Fall Guy!👍
@jaredharris19702 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see what they come up with for 2023 that will put that to shame
@jerrydilks23346 ай бұрын
Great video! Very informative. I just bought one of these yesterday used. And I love it.
@bkrgi2 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing this as my snow crawler this winter.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I see, I see the vision
@bacongl2 жыл бұрын
Vanquish Phoenix does everything the TRX4 can do for the most part. Minus the diff locking. I would never use it anyway. Can't take either of them to Axialfest though. If I want a 2.2 rig, I will bust out the Wraith or Bomber. But there is a reason I prefer 1.9, I actually like the struggle. If I was to ever buy a TR4, this would be it. I do appreciate what Traxxas brings to the hobby. Especially dat new Sledge. Love your reviews. Cheers!
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Right on. We're trying to make sense of all this switchable drivetrain stuff and happy to share what we learn.
@stevefrench3564 Жыл бұрын
Traxxas screen prints the sheets of polycarbonate before they are vacuum formed. Thats why they use stickers on the windows..
@hellorc76782 жыл бұрын
Just got done filming our first run! This truck looks amazing on the course. Nice review and video as always.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Right on. Post a link to your video in the comments here when you're done. Love to hear what you think.
@hellorc76782 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel thank you .will do!
@ChrisGorman872 жыл бұрын
I just bought the red truck! Black is awesome too but I have too many black trucks and I need more color in my collection! Great video Francis!
@keithenking88882 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the red one Friday I already have a blazer but this is my newest favorite the detail is incredible people a must-have
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
It beat my expectations as well.
@randall44112 жыл бұрын
You put the pressure on with this video . They got it right this time !
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's fresh
@chrisreibold16342 жыл бұрын
I like this truck alot! I wish it was a long bed though. Watching it go off the jump reminded me of the Fall Guy truck!
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Long bed will look good but it won't perform nearly as well.
@robertruiz54173 ай бұрын
Excellent video I went and purchased this vehicle because of your excellent review sir
@norsefalconer2 жыл бұрын
Investment 😂😂😂 Investments are something that pays to own it. RC is QUITE the opposite of THAT, hahaha. Love it just the same! Btw, I'm only about a year and a half in, and already have 7 vehicles bridging four manufacturers, plus I have two more kits to build (from yet another manufacturer). No doubt the future will bring more to the collection, possibly this truck in red. I am hooked, and absolutely fascinated with the hobby. Thanks RC Review for all you do!
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much! This investment grows as you upgrade it. :)
@saturnfivehynrgrc5812 жыл бұрын
Algorithms agitated like button selected. I do like Traxxas products. Keep up the good work and enthusiasm for RC. Its shows man!!!
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Right on man. Put some effort in this one as I had hours of footage to edit through.
@seanweir7311 Жыл бұрын
Santa dropped off one to me in blue. Just wish Santa used his credit card instead of mine. Have not had time to drive it yet but I like the way yours moves.
@nhansme2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting till you get one of those to watch your review on it. Thank you so much for the video…!!!At the moment it’s only available for preorder here for $999.99 Australian dollars. Big price tag but looks like it’s worth it
@uan5882 жыл бұрын
I purchased Red and Black. The day they were released. Now I have Six Trx4.
@rhettdepol46292 жыл бұрын
One thing I think that’s overlooked about the clipless body is now you can’t really upgrade the shock towers to metal since everything is in the inner fender..
@earthcoloredeyes50432 жыл бұрын
I appreciate Traxxas for what they bring to the hobby, they are expensive, but you get what you pay for. My only issue is that their servos are always crap. Come on traxxas, 550 for a toy and the servo is Walmart grade!
@jaredharris19702 жыл бұрын
I agree I got a used trx4 guy had it 2 years still looked new not a scratch on the body went over the chassis not much wear and tear and after 3 months I had to get new steering servo guy was only selling it because money was tight and he needed some quick cash he hated to part with it but having his car fixed was more important
@QuinnsRC2 жыл бұрын
You definitely make me want to keep buying stuff. I really like this truck.
@JCHKeys2 жыл бұрын
Love the MTBR background.....
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Riiiiight? I needed less distraction in the background
@lualrosaal2 жыл бұрын
OH NOOOOOOOO!!! now I am going to have to get anotherone, aftewr I had said that my collection was complete and there was nothing out there that I wanted. But I want this one too. 😃 Great review I too was surprised as to how capable it is.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Sorry! Not sorry!! You won't be disappointed :)
@LargeeeScaleLife2 жыл бұрын
I love the entire platform my defender is one of my favorite trucks my only complaint really with Traxxas is figure out an interior. Not having an interior really holds them back they have amazing lights bodies all of that and it doesn’t have to be super detailed something like the SCX 10 jeep interior it is totally sufficient but give us some kind of interior option that would be huge for them on these trucks
@n22pdf2 жыл бұрын
Love this truck can’t wait for it to arrive in UK..great overview look forward to more vids with this one 🤩👍🚴🏅
@rcmakingtracks182 жыл бұрын
Nice video, good job. As for the truck, I have to admit it does look good. John
@chriswalter31552 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews! I have a red one on the way.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! Can't come soon enough
@elfaizfaliq32682 жыл бұрын
Nice great video.... You should do top 5 best upgrade for this model....!! Keep it going!!!
@sparkysworld67682 жыл бұрын
I was on the fence about this and now am planning to get it. Great video! 👍
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Same here. I would not have bought it if not for making a video for this channel. But now, I'm keeping it.
@zonegamma81972 жыл бұрын
very nice ! now I want to convert my trx4 to a High lift
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Could be done. But it won't be cheap.
@Sixbillion1 Жыл бұрын
just discovered your channel, lots of great videos, plus i can see you ride mtb like i do, so im subscribed
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
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@jukkak14482 жыл бұрын
Older black sunset Bronco is still best looking car!
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Sunset is king and brings back an era
@rcplaytime2 жыл бұрын
Really want a red one,looks amazing 😮👍👍👍
@uan5882 жыл бұрын
It is. I have Red and Black. Had to get them both
@stephaniedickerson77112 жыл бұрын
I changed the shocks out I took them down to 105 mm the stance is a whole lot better it didn’t look like a Walmart toy running around I also replaced the servo it was just way under powered as usual and I put a savox monster on there Then I peeled all the chrome off the sides of it and now it looks wonderful
@Mikey19622 жыл бұрын
I have mine on order and it should be here on the 16th (fingers crossed). I enjoyed the review however during the running segments I found it hard to hear what you were saying because of the background music was mixed a bit to high / loud. I think its more important to hear what you are saying in the review over your choice of boom click noise in the background, thats why I “ tune in” to hear you not background noise. So many people don’t care to mix the vocal and music properly and thats a shame really. Oh well Ive seen other reviews where I could hear what they are saying and thats why I ordered mine. Remember Francis not all your viewers are 18 years old , many of us are getting up there and hearing is one of the first things yo deteriorate. Thanks for the review…. Mike
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Right on, good call.
@paulus8420002 жыл бұрын
Nice review, as for the negative points, servo and motor, that's nothing new but for the price it's a nice machine.
@coventrykid08 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to paint this as the Fall Guy truck.
@1FSTCrewCab2 жыл бұрын
I need that to match my TRX4 Black Blazer!
@moto- Жыл бұрын
I just picked one up in the red version
@oldironsfury2 жыл бұрын
The enthusiasm is always great ! Great video The usual 💯 % 👍👍
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Enthusiasm was real for this one.
@bearclan19722 жыл бұрын
I agree with the windows but I would include the mirrors as well they come with dinky car mirrors not the ones the actual truck comes with. Also I replace ALL the servos with metal gears asap the servos they come with just suck and I would replace the motor and esc with the hobbywing axe or the hobbywing fusion. Other than that awesome rig
@moonshobby2 жыл бұрын
Wow, it's bigger than I thought Thank you for your explanation I'm always watching it well👍💯
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Big thanks. That was my big surprise as well.
@mishmasta2 жыл бұрын
Man, it's been a minute since I thought about MTBR. Used to be the place to go.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yeah I started that site a long time ago. Don't worry, I'll start another one. You bike or ebike?
@mishmasta2 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel I mountain bike. I remember using your site a lot back in the day! Funny how there seem to be a lot of cyclists into RC as well.
@ericericwnelsonlivecom2 жыл бұрын
It looks just like the truck from the show The Fall Guy
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Oh, we might modify ours to look like that.
@5teve..Ай бұрын
Traxxas does offer some of the very best vehicles out there.. that's why I have so many of them. They are more realistic than many others out there and they are performers right out of the box..👍🏾🇲🇽🇺🇸🇮🇹 Trump 24
@warbuzzard71672 жыл бұрын
Superb, in every execution. You run a mean review channel! Every point is salient, there's little fluff, you don't have the "dumbass country bumpkin-Good Ol' Boy" routine going, and it hits the mark every time. Plus, amazing photography!
@Iamfirebird3602 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed they release an f150 version
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
That would be cool!
@MaxeeOffroadRC2 жыл бұрын
Awesome crawler bro! 👍
@ChrisGorman872 жыл бұрын
Just fyi! The snap-on tools trx4 bronco came with the lift kit tires and wheels plus a pro scale light kit. So it’s technically not a first for Traxxas.
@NBC_NCO2 жыл бұрын
I would consider purchasing that one. My backyard is simply to small.
@michaelwarner57212 жыл бұрын
Great Review!! Thanks
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We enjoyed making it.
@jeffreyd51292 жыл бұрын
What if you put monster truck tires and wheels on it? I think it would look pretty cool! 😎
@patricklavoie87192 жыл бұрын
Good review!
@sergioruiz70172 жыл бұрын
Nice work awesome reviews what park are you at looks awesome
@artiskegerise7078 Жыл бұрын
You should do a review on the trx6 hauler from traxxas
@raymonde.tanneratomic-rc93702 жыл бұрын
Always like your reviews
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! This one took some effort since I just got it yesterday!!!
@johnjones21942 жыл бұрын
Where did get that ramp that thing is sweet
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
From Ninja Mountain Bike skills
@terjehimle31072 жыл бұрын
Love it :) thanks for the video :)
@yantrs-rcservo55472 жыл бұрын
If you have a chance, you can try our new helical gear
@dachedameron-ld7no Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid!! Will the Trx Bronco body fit ?
@mytrx4andalittlemore Жыл бұрын
Yessssss
@EthanCmsrc1082 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 2021 bronco, love it.. next purchase is either the cen f250 or the new k10
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
K10
@EthanCmsrc1082 жыл бұрын
@@RCReviewChannel you hear about the unreleased scx6 trail honcho?
@edwincordero8 Жыл бұрын
Any comments on the CG compared to previous trx4m?
@Roboli-nr1mv2 жыл бұрын
Man I got a stop watching your videos I'm spending too much moola on toys lol
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Haha... just remember 'no paper trail'.
@Cbam8712 жыл бұрын
I put a pre order down on this an now im stuck on either getting king sling lmt mega truck or this trx4 an the king sling later. I have no idea because I saw the light kit for this truck an I want it bad
@jaredharris19702 жыл бұрын
I would like to see them do a Ford Explorer the older version, suburban, dodge power wagon
@whenbacongrowsontrees78982 жыл бұрын
In Almost Every review people complain about no clear windows... TRAXXAS, LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS!!!!!!
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Rrrright?
@FarmerFpv2 жыл бұрын
Are there any other bodies that will fit this? Do you think the Element Knightrunne would fit if I install the clipless body rails in the body? 324 and 336 are super close in wheelbase. I would love to put a cheaper body that I don't mind destroying. Any thoughts, sir? Thanks for the awesome reviews! You Rock!
@nrvous3092 жыл бұрын
I wanna see the wheels/tires from the Traxxas on the CEN Racing lifted f250
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
That my friend is a great idea.
@100percentMozarella2 жыл бұрын
What wheels are you using for the bronco in this video? I love the bronze coloring
@SYST3M_OVERIDE Жыл бұрын
Have you experienced any "binding" sorta speak with the driveshafts? I just bought one of these and going backwards it kind of jumps. It doesn't do it if you push down on the truck.
@Glenn.J2 жыл бұрын
Really awesome
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Not their worst work or ours. :)
@coltrockwell546710 ай бұрын
What is the wheel base compared to the Land Cruiser? Like is it longer?
@BillVanbАй бұрын
is it a bad thing if the foam in the tires get wet and heavier?
@HelveticRC2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, thanks. I think it would be better if it would be possible to buy this as an Roller without any electronics. So i pay a lot for unusable electronic, which i change anyway. But the Vehicle it self, is very very good looking.
@RCReviewChannel2 жыл бұрын
Great point! A roller would be so, so welcome
@deathevokation1017 Жыл бұрын
What motor, servo, and upgrades would you suggest for the K10?