RD Vlogs: Out Of Time

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Season 6 goes out with a bang.

[@TheKingofall42]

The Rimmer ageing thing is probably related to his programming to keep Lister alive (or sane). When he's around Lister he ages as normal (hence his appearance in BtE, X, XI, and XII) but when he's not around Lister he stays the same age (such as Rimmerworld). He dosn't need to age so his program dosn't unless it's overwritten by the function Holly brought him back with. That's what I've always assumed anyway.

[@Foebane72]

Yes, I was thinking the same thing after she mentioned the lack of ageing in Rimmerworld.

[@scorchx3000]

Or Lister is stressing him out and causing grey hair and wrinkles.

[@stardappledgreen]

I love how Cat's reaction to the unreality bubble where he doesn't exist is so cat-like. When you're paying attention to him, you're beneath his notice, but the minute you begin ignoring him he make sure you know he's there

[@Pravdacz-tp8zu]

Who wouldn't react like that?

[@Soliy87]

Always loved the end of this episode where Rimmer has another moment to shine. I first watched this when i was about 12 and i still get a chill when the crew are suddenly killed out of nowhere and goosebumps when Rimmer has his hero moment

[@ShamrockParticle]

In 1993, it was a very captivating episode. Holds up well. Drives me nuts that they had no proper resolution, though the most obvious one is - theoretical spoiler alert - they were in another unreality bubble.

[@Foebane72]

I've always loved this cliffhanger, where Rimmer finally shows some courage. Just a pity that what came after was inferior.

[@kevinbermingham3135]

Yes. For me this was the dramatic climax of the entire Red Dwarf franchise. Shame they couldn't keep up this standard.

[@ThomasSpettel]

I agree, this was the one time Rimmer finally became brave and showed an act of courage to match the theme music at the end.

[@myenemysenemy1043]

Six was always my favourite season. It was also the first season I got into as a kid.

[@Deathshead1923]

It's amazing how courageous one can be with one's back to the wall.

[@EdwarAnimation]

This was the first episode of red dwarf I ever watched when I was ten, I was hooked afterwards! When I got the series 6 I saw the deleted scenes from this episode and they show Listers lifeless face after the explosion which was really unpleasant considering how much all the characters had grown on me

[@somerandomguy2073]

One thing that always bugged me about the time drive is that there's lots of ways they could have used it to get back Red Dwarf and then back to Earth (ignoring the series 7 time drive's capability). Just travel a few months back in time, intercept the stolen Red Dwarf (the thing about it not being stolen wasn't written in yet) when it passed through that region of space (as they were following it all series), then travel six million years into the past, get into the stasis booths for 3 million years and arrive at Earth almost exactly when they left in the first place. Easy. Entire show concluded there and then. No need for a faster than light drive if they have access to stasis pods and time travel.

[@noahlogue]

HERMAN GOERING A BIT DODGEY!? 😆🤣

[@terranova1203]

7:50 "Hermann Göring is a bit dodgy?!"

[@fromthecheapseats7126]

I bet you were relieved to see that “real” Cat aged better than the alternate version in this episode.

[@Cyborcat]

Definitely XD

[@dovacraft5772]

i love all their character development especially rimmer. kryten goes from obedient to independent when he tries *_* cat goes from selfish to selfless when he puts his mind to it >w< lister goes from a slob to a kind hero whenever he wants 'u' and rimmer goes from coward to courageous when he stops doubting himself ^w^

[@TheGilgameshepic]

The "whole crew getting killed episode" is a pretty common trope for a series end in British Sci-Fi. It's happened several times in Dr Who, at least twice in Blake's 7 and those are just the ones I can think of right off the top of my head.

[@leejones8582]

I like this episode the line about Hermann Göring being abit dodgy always cracks me up

[@VkmSpouge]

Series 6 was the first season of Red Dwarf I watched as it was coming out. It was at the time I was learning to swim and after swimming lessons, we'd go home, my Mum would make hot chocolate and we'd watch Red Dwarf. A shocking ending too with such a cliffhanger and it took over 3 years for the next series to come out.

[@kickingroses8925]

I still remember watching this episode when I was really young. Seeing the characters die and the ship blow up followed by credits was just mindblowing to me! And then to have to wait THREE YEARS for the next series was agony. I remember I was so excited for the S7 premier but something caused me to miss it and I was in tears. Granted, I was 9 and we didn't have a vhs recorder.

[@Cyborcat]

In a way, I'm at an advantage in getting into this series late. I think I started watching around the time that Season X came out, so the only ones I've had to wait for are XI and XII.

[@31webseries]

First episode I saw was Legion. So I didn't really get that Rimmer had been a hologram before or had died or anything. With the H and all the badge like things I thought he was their commander. I mean I guess he's the de facto leader but I thought in more of an official, Jim Kirk, kind of way. Either way I fell in love with the show, Rimmer and Barrie all in the same episode so I was good and hooked for the rest.

[@rayvenkman2087]

This method of time travel is probably one of the more realistic ones in that you’re only rewinding time in the area you’re in rather than going elsewhere as per the norm in most time travel stories.

[@FarelForever]

"This show is weird...", boy that sounds like a line to say during the first season, and not the sixth! At this point, I'm able to accept new things with a shrug, and a "Well ok then" :p

[@ms_scribbles]

At first, I wondered if maybe the end scene was an homage to the end of the novel "The Last Human" as far as Rimmer goes, but then I found out that the book came out two years after the episode, so...maybe it's the other way around.

[@josssmith]

Rimmer and The Cat look like they've aged about 35 years rather than 15

[@jankreft6753]

I liked that they tried to change up some things and bring a bit fresh air into the show with this season, even though I started to miss Holly quite quickly.

[@StaticYonder]

Fun fact about the Kryten's line at 1:25, the name Mogadon is the brand name for the drug that's better known by it's generic; Nitrazepam, very similar to Valium

[@Cyborcat]

I didn't know that, that's pretty funny.

[@XFactor5a]

Ever notice the Star Trek Enterprise episode E Squared seems to be based off this episode, where Future Enterprise NX-01 takes on Present Enterprise NX-01

[@optimisticwhovian1726]

The shame about Doug Naylor was he wrote these great cliffhangers then did total cop outs the next episode just like the opening crawl that starts series 3 which looks like a bloody rushed job cos they couldn't be bothered with proper episodes to lead on from the end of series 2. And then again series 8 ends on a dramatic cliffhanger only to be completely forgotten about in series 9 and glibly referenced just to tease people in season 11. Good acting by Chris Barrie though his career was always in comedy but when called upon to do some serious dramatic acting he gave the end weight and left everyone in suspense even if it was all for nought in Tikka to Ride. it's the most memorable cliffhanger of the entire canon.

[@pargi7982]

Chris held the show together throughout but he was exceptionally fantastic in this episode.

[@TheBeird]

Despite the behind the scenes trouble for this episode, to me this is the dramatic peak of the series. I don’t know if it’s cause I saw it as a kid on its first airing, or if it’s because I lost a parent the same year, but the scene of them all dying really has stuck with me. And when Rimmer picks up the bazookoid and runs off after realising what he has to do, it still gets a bit dusty around my eyes even to this day 😢

[@rumourhats]

And this is where Red Dwarf ended for me. I watched Series 7 in horror as it was broadcast. I suppose, at least, we know out of Grant and Naylor which one had the brains and quit wit, because both seemed to vanish completely when Rob left.

[@stardappledgreen]

same, Red Dwarf is Grant and Naylor and what comes after is what I consider a separate series

[@rumourhats]

@Ben Holmes The Brian Clough-Peter Taylor theory.

[@MichaelBrookham]

I did like this episode, but I must comment on a few things. First of all, I have been known to write some Fan Fiction shows, and year after year, I get in my mind about a Red Dwarf Christmas Carol, with Rimmer as Scrooge, and it brings back a lot of the old one-time characters from Seasons 1 - 4, including Rimmer's Mother and young Rimmer. Until I saw Season 7, Out of Time, I thought, would be the end of Red Dwarf. At the end, I was not sure which Starbug was destroyed, the present one or the future one. My favourite part was when Rimmer looked through the scope and his reaction to Lister being a brain in a jar. That was funny. The idea of unreality pockets and time drives were a great idea. I wish, though, that they had done the morale meeting a little earlier in the show, then we could have heard some of the other characters' opinions of the others. Good episode.

[@TheJ12345]

It could be that the old thing is a side-effect for using the time drive too much.

[@MamLewis]

There was an alternate ending filmed for this Episode where Rimmer does shoot the Time drive, and everything returns to normal. The crew celebrate by drinking Margaritas, only to discover that it was urine. The ending was leaked to fans on purpose to throw them off what would actually happen. I also remember it was on a Smeg ups/Best of VHS in the 90s

[@williamcrowe2576]

An unaired alternate ending had them survive the battle, and they celebrate with margaritas which turns out to be Urine Recyc.

[@kickingroses8925]

Wow, thinking about it, I think Red Dwarf might be one of the only British sitcoms that hasn't done a Christmas special!

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

"a very smeggy Christmas" Dena's 4th cutest moment

[@mrcritical6751]

To be fair Christmas on Red Dwarf would be hell Lister would want his Christmas dinner made into a curry, Rimmer would bore the crew with every version of the yearly royal speech, Cat would most probably steal all the presents and claim them as his own and Kryten would be too preoccupied cleaning up all the rapping paper and cooking the Christmas dinner

[@Cyborcat]

See, to me that sounds funny =P Maybe just as a silly non-canon episode, tho.

[@Cyborcat]

Now I'm wondering what the first three are =P

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

Cyborcat 3. Edward scissorhands 17.40 2. Nightmare on Elm Street- 0.40 1. Same video 0.30

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

When I first saw this I thought the time drive and there future selves were another illusion to stop them taking the time machine.

[@andreagaul4960]

Me too

[@mrdoctorgilmore]

They should have kept that outtake in, it's very rimmer

[@Cyborcat]

It really is XD

[@optimisticwhovian1726]

Yeh but this was the one time the show went serious for the finale so it would've undercut the drama and Barrie's performance.

[@bannerturtoise1219]

I have a theory about why they look older than they do. This could be a side effect of them using the time drive for as long as they have. Physically ageing them more than they would naturally.

[@BintyMcFrazzles]

I watched this when it originally aired in 1993. I was 19 and I taped it and was shocked by the ending and me and my friend sat and watched it again to see if we missed something. Sadly, this was the last decent series for several years as RD went downhill after series 6. 😒 It got better, but it took 20 years before it got good again, IMO.

[@Lord_Messiah_Disciple]

11:03 Sometimes I wonder if they should have kept that part in.

[@Fricasso79]

I saw this episode when it first aired, and I literally only discovered today that an alternate ending was filmed where Rimmer blowing up the time drive restores everything to normal, there's no cliffhanger, and the episode ends on a urine wine joke.

[@rebajoe]

The urine wine comes back in 'Can't Smeg Won't Smeg.'

[@Johnsavage1]

Amusing in a terrible way that Hitler doesn't mind having dinner with Cat.

[@Cyborcat]

Good point XD

[@mrcritical6751]

Well Hitler wasn't against felines he actually liked animals seeing as he was a vegetarian so I think once they explained what Cat was he might've been fine, either that or he was secretly spiking Cat with a hair loss potion

[@richardmoores]

Mr Critical hitler wasn’t really a vegetarian in the way people think of it. He had crippling stomach pains and his doctor advised him to cut down on meat because the high protein activated it. He did and felt somewhat better, so he soon cut it out altogether and his stomach pains were no more. He didn’t stop eating meat for ethical reasons.

[@toomanyaccounts]

yet he bitched whenever someone else ate meat. he promoted vegetarianism too.

[@jackmehoffe9372]

Thank you

[@bjam89]

Wait that liquid beast...is That rimmers long awaited alien?

[@Cyborcat]

Nah, I'm sure it was a Gelf.

[@rebecca7p24]

which liquid beast🤔

[@bjam89]

it would be funny if that was the name someone gave that being, if it is a gelf, "Pan-Dimensional Liquid Beast from The Mogadon Cluster " that should get rid of that smeg head rimmer if he ever learns about it, he will go hunting for it, and it is just a harmless gelf

[@ZebbeCali]

“Very smeggy Christmas” lmao

[@iamsemjaza]

I mean, they could have gone back 3 million years and then taken a stasis trip back to Earth to Lister's present time.

[@humantornadah]

AAAH. I thought I'd have to wait three weeks!

[@adamsanter9385]

7:08 Oooooohhhhh! Dear!

[@TimeLordParadox]

Rather than fight or give up the data, they could've used the time drive once and just gone backwards a few hundred years. If the future Star Bugs time drive can't go back in time then going back in time a few hundred years would put them well out of range. Then they could back track Red Dwarf to their last know position, head there, and catch it unawares or grab it before it's even stolen. When that's done and they're back on the Dwarf, destroy the time drive so their future selves are erased and therefore no danger of them coming back. In that respect, wouldn't it have been funny if it turned out all this time that Red Dwarf was never really stolen, the crew had just spent 200 years following future versions of themselves who'd made it back to, and 'recovered' Red Dwarf. :P I know that messes with how the story unfolded, but then even the writers didn't know how the Dwarf chase would turn out. But considering how many re-writes of the season final they made it makes me wonder if this was not their original scenario for season 06, but decided to go another route.

[@TheKaiTetley]

TimeLordParadox. That is vey clever

[@davidmarks509]

Red Dwarf was a great show. The Americans wanted to make a movie as long as no original cast weren't in it. I think Tom Cruise was going to be Lister. Lucky for us they didn't do it. I saw the American version of red dwarf pilot, and that was a taste of what's to come. Which didn't.! English humor it best done with understated humor, by the English. Maybe they don't have the big budget flash effects, but Red Dwarf was done on a shoe string. Its the story and actors that make something worth watching. TY for sharing, I have been enjoying your commentary

[@Cyborcat]

I think you're wrong about the movie--at the very least, I've NEVER heard anything about that. I think you're thinking of the US TV pilot. Thanks, tho. Glad you like the videos ^.^

[@georgeowain]

4:00 Himm, the live action Beastars looks a little cheap.

[@Cyborcat]

Best comment XD

[@linkeffect82]

Great review, and an awesome final episode! I think the difference in appearance is likely your second idea of "Ugliness on the inside changes the outside." , but I think there may be a possibility of it being a result of their extreme decadence, having no real exercise and eating all the foods they want, including the kind bad for them, just deteriorated their health badly. Your second idea makes more sense though to me.

[@mrcritical6751]

I'm thinking the time machine had a bad effect on them after a while and they aged faster all except Kryten who actually looks better than he does now

[@Cyborcat]

That works too.

[@XX-sp3tt]

4:02 Furries of the universe unite.

[@Stuart267]

*The ageing thing can be explained by gluttony, unhealthy lifestyle which the future crew proudly boasted. Hell! I am the youngest of 4 brothers, the oldest is 47 & I am often mistaken for the oldest brother, that's due to YEARS of alcohol abuse & heavy smoking. My brothers don't smoke & didn't drink to excess like I did throughout my teens & twenties, so they obviously have aged better.*

[@jackmehoffe9372]

Brilliant

[@theroosterprince7760]

I lke how The Boys became worse after Lister is reduced to a brain in a jar. He always was the heart of the team and they basically lost their moral compass when he lost his body.

[@Cyborcat]

Interesting, I never thought to make that connection.

[@BH-98]

Sadly it's all down hill from here, for me at least. Things don't get good again until season 10 I'm surprised you didn't mention that the episode was being written whist it was being filmed. with the actors having little rehearsal and reading from the autocue. If anything I think it adds to the episode's quality that it's still really good despite the difficult & demanding production.

[@Myndir]

I liked Season 8 a lot, but that's partly because it's the first season I saw in full, so I associate that season with getting to know the characters. For the same reason, I like the Iron Maiden album "Fear of the Dark" and "Dream Warriors" is my favourite Nightmare on Elm Street movie.

[@Myndir]

Also, isn't Season 9 widely acknowledged to be the best in the series? I was really amazed by the places they took the Cat's character, although the choice of what they did with the rabbits in that season was VERY daring in this PC age.

[@Cyborcat]

Yah, I probably should have mentioned the rewrites in this episode. It just slipped my mind, especially with everything else there was to talk about.

[@ELSTERLING]

Yeah, 7 and 8 were pretty dire, (8 especially) and 'Back to Earth', whilst it had its moments, couldn't seem to decide if it wanted to be a pilot or a farewell and was a tonal mess as a result. The show, themes and characters seemed to come off the rails totally when Grant left and threw S7 in to development hell. That combined with Craig Charles' personal controversies as well as some fatigue for the cast harmed the show and Red Dwarf took a long time to recover thereafter. There's a reason S7 and S8 were all but removed from canon by the recent, (and largely better) seasons. (Though I will say S11 was uneven.) With that said I suspect my feelings about S7, at least, were slightly exaggerated by certain factors. As a small child, when I saw this season finale, I was *gripped* and felt so betrayed when the follow-up finally came *three years later* and it barely gave the previous events more than a brief, tongue-in-cheek acknowledgement. Still, the show undeniably lost some gravitas when it lost Grant.

[@DuderinoDeux]

The WEF : A bit dodgy. Imagine!

[@Jayfive276]

We need a "Kitty no!" counter :P

[@Cyborcat]

XD

[@mattofsmegpoop3027]

A very smeggie Christmas ewwwwww

[@Cyborcat]

LOL.

[@dragonskunkstudio7582]

If it was written today: - Kryten: You found Donald Trump a bit dodgy? If you Google that word its his entire presidency summarized. :/

[@Baeraad]

I can see it. "Trump, President Donald: a bit dodgy."

[@TheKaiTetley]

Joshua Wilshaw. Yeah alright. You can use that line to describe anyone in politics. Both candidates in 2016 were crooked pricks.

[@JOHNMARCEY]

@@TheKaiTetley Trump 2020

[@MechaKaito]

@@JOHNMARCEY that aged poorly.