Re-Cycling: Is History Repeating Itself? | GCN Show Ep.370

[@gcn]

What do you think will make a come back from the past?

[@jbratt]

Global Cycling Network training hard when you feel good and taking it easy when you are tired.

[@TheWaxChainFanClub]

#Cannings with any luck.

[@markmarlatt1105]

Friction shifters! Didn't start riding till not that long ago but loved them and the simplicity.

[@jacgn_cycling]

Steel frames in the world tour!

[@BikepackingAdventures]

Matt Stephens to GCN!

[@chrisjboyce]

“When you have worked with ‘other top athletes’... “, there is Ollie’s positive thinking right there

[@gcn]

😂

[@RoninCycling]

Should Ollie shave his eyebrows too? Marginal gains and all.

[@neilmdon]

I thought the Specialized Win-tunnel team concluded a couple of years ago that beards have no measurable effect. They did find that pony tail treatments matter more than you might think - not an issue for Ollie but it matters to me.

[@RoninCycling]

@@neilmdon Maybe there will be a placebo effect...he should do it for...SCIENCE!!!!!!!

[@grandpalouis818]

What about trimming some body parts, I mean, who needs a nose??

[@CameronFraserACHF]

@@neilmdon Yup...shaving the beard saved less than 1 second over 40 km...www.evanscycles.com/coffeestop/advice/the-wintunnel-effects-of-beards-leg-hair-and-ponytails-on-aerodynamics

[@neilmdon]

@@CameronFraserACHF Yep that is what I remember - good news for me too, as I have worn a braid since about 1986.

[@BassSlaughter]

caption: Team Bahrain-Merino reveals new kit

[@gcn]

Classic

[@greg_loper]

Caption: I wanted GCN kit but this was all I could a Ford.

[@AlejandroMallea]

Here in Washington state there's the Northwest Time Trial Series. One of their categories is without TT bike or anything aero (no aero helmet, no skin suit, no clip-on bars, no disc wheels, no tri spokes, and not even an aero road bike). The category is appropriately named "Merckx".

[@johnhazel9986]

Girvin Flexstem has a single pivot that made the handlebar rotate as it flexed. The new suspension stem has a parralelogram arm pair that does not rotate the bars as it flexes.

[@Nojikuzus]

Crazy Cippolini style skinsuits! Bring em' back! =)

[@neilmdon]

10:00 Oliver Bridgewood "When you've worked with OTHER top athletes ..." (emphasis added). Rock on Ollie!!

[@GCNuser123]

i meant in addition to Rohan! hahaha! but thanks non the less!

[@henkdevrjes9640]

Thought the exact samething

[@johnc6339]

Yeah thought the same, Ollie really is on top of the mental side.😁

[@neilmdon]

@@GCNuser123 As a chemistry professor who collaborates a fair bit with the Physical and Atmospheric Chemists at Leeds, like John C says below "top mental" sounds good to me!

[@doriandefrenne4958]

20:06 this french accent😁😂👌❤️ I'm French and it's exactly like that

[@noiseyuri]

reasons why I don’t upgrade my 2007 carbon frame: it has threaded bottom bracket

[@gcn]

A very sensible choice

[@learigg]

No, glassfibre lasts forever, big issue for boat builders.

[@learigg]

But press it bottom brackets are shi7 leaving the factory.

[@galenkehler]

All bearings are pressfit... even ahimano presses into threaded cups. The threads just allow for shoddy manufacturing.

[@buttsakauf]

Threads establish a baseline manufacturing tolerance however allow more slop that a properly machined press in setup.

[@kampalakid63]

Ollie is getting into the right frame of mind for his hour of power. I thought his question starting “when you are working with “other” elite athletes” gave away quite a lot. 😂🤣😂

[@Roblevelo]

I'd like to see proper frame size pumps make a comeback

[@declanfaughey8471]

Caption: NO CAPES ( try saying it like Edna "E" Mode from the incredibles).

[@MrRoybob]

I'd like to see good quality affordable bikes come back. Tired of being force fed aero, battery required disc brake bikes made for dentists. Simple frame, ultegra group, standard cable routing, rim brake bikes shouldn't be hard to find at a decent price. But it's getting harder

[@isitrachelorj3953]

I find them on the side of the road all the time, they 're not retro, they 're my everyday commuters. Steel, 12 speeds, 27 inch wheels and you can t beat the price.

[@taufikabidin412]

There are so many of them, particularly in the used market, now affordable bikes are so good. 500 usd can get you a very good bike

[@logicaldad1917]

Remember Lon Haldeman? RAAM winner who used to ride rollers in his basement in the dark for hours to practice for RAAM. That's a lot harder than watching POV velodrome... :)

[@allibloo]

Caption: Shock as UCI introduce blanket ban on rider sponsorship.

[@johnnydoe66]

Don't forget about the Softride flex stem, it also used a parallelogram style setup and spring

[@sstieda]

And I stil have my Softride stem AND a few Avocette parts!!

[@mooktookie3363]

Softride FTW

[@Zzyyxx22]

I think Niner are missing a trick by not having a Tioga Disc Drive rear wheel on the gravel bikes. It also needs more purple bits.

[@Unix_Based]

I would like to see a comeback of aluminium polished groupsets like we had in the nineties. I and i guess many more people are getting pretty tired of black carbon looking or dark anodized and painted components.

[@hogdog567]

That parallelogram stem design is far more similar to the Softride stem than the Girvin flexstem.

[@grandad1982]

I'd like to see a come back of mtb and road shifters and derailleurs working together.

[@cyclenutter2715]

I'd like to see cervélo test team making a comeback, Dan is leader, ds, nutritionist, chef, domestique, soigneur and podium girl

[@ProfessorSteez]

GCN, we need your help to revive Catlike as a company. They have recently went out of business, and it would be a shame if such sexy helmets were never made again.

[@trevorhayes5414]

That Campy downtube shifter bottle opener is a thing of beauty! Awesome! 🍻

[@dougduchateau443]

Tinker Juarez was also an exceptional early generation BMX racer, along with guys like Stu Thompsen and Harry Leary - what a great name drop! Oh and BTW please double check the saddle, we all know what happened during the penny farthing segment!

[@steffenstengardvilladsen3740]

Torpedo 3 Gear deserve a comeback - one of the most simple and efficient gear-hubs.

[@paulbroomhead8427]

Caption: When the commentator says 'You could throw a blanket over the finishers', don't take it literally.

[@NA13]

Dagenkolb? Don't you mean Degencobble surely?

[@tallulahbeaverhausen4382]

Just finished the dirt shed show. Now on to the GCN show !

[@krisjones74]

The Girvin stem was a joke, but the Allsop/Softride parallelogram stem was not. Both were rendered obsolete by good suspension forks.

[@ShawnStradamus520]

Spinaci bars! Banning bar extensions in mass start racing has led to riders draping their forearms over the bars which is quite arguably more dangerous. Modern design technology could potentially allow for shifting and braking from this position as a way to advance on the original Cinelli design. Cheers!

[@greggenna]

Having lived in both the northeastern US and southern UK, I would absolutely take the New England winter. The damp, dark UK winter is much, much more miserable.

[@yinyiang6345]

the RETURN of rim brakes

[@FelipeLuizDickmann]

Basic and a few intermediary bikes are rim brakes and I guess will always be. It's better to have a good wheel and rim brakes instead of a shitty whell with shitty disc brake.

[@Skooteh]

@@FelipeLuizDickmann good wheel and good disk brakes is still best IMO. I like my expensive wheels to not be a wear component.

[@GC_420]

Lol

[@jarod144]

Someone asked me if I got cable actuated hydraulic brakes and I yelled back “NO” WTF?

[@okantichrist]

Jarod 144 I’d have replied no I’ve got hydraulic operated cable brakes 😂

[@Lacking_something]

I would like to see the return of classically styled groupset (not black or grey!) But with modern day build quality and functionality. Shimano di2 wireless in brushed silver please!

[@TheM00nStar1]

@GCN would you release a podcast based tech clinic for long form discussions on cycling and cycling performance? I thing Ollie’s interview with Dr. Spindler would be a fantastic place to start

[@optimax5niffer]

I quite liked my Girvin flex stem on my Titanium DynaTech Ogre. I had several Avocet computers. 20, 30 & a 50

[@xsubsquid]

Banana seat bikes like my old Ross Barracuda! Or the Schwinn Orange Crate with shocks that actually work! Imagine, a modern drive train, carbon rims and frame, front rock shock, rear shock, electronic shifting to make the old 3-speed into a 27-speed. Not aero. Definitely gravel worthy. Optimized to do jumps off plywood ramps in the back yard or slow neighborhood street. That would be awesome!

[@ronwhite8503]

Still using one of my Flexstems regularly and love it. One? Yes, I have a spare!

[@poststuff2]

Ollie way ahead of Dan and Si as he brings back poor buffering video conferencing speeds.

[@TL243]

I am so glad you mentioned the counting trick. Having done dozens of 24 hour rides and races and RAAM a few times... this works!!!

[@owenrodgers8020]

I don't do 5 but either I seem to count to 12 or 20 when going up hills... Definitely helps

[@MrDavidfball]

narrow flat bars with bar ends its the future of gravel bikes i tell thee

[@kiwi_kirsch]

if 559 was so kind to make a reappearence, that'd be great. 26 is not dead, for heaven's sake!

[@jasonhamlin8847]

Can you do a test of a Brooks fully sprung leather saddle vs. a cane creek thudbuster, or a specialized cobbler gobbler/CG-R, or an Ergon split seatpost? What's old is new again, right?

[@kedarkulkarni3030]

What about the torque setting of that fender mount...fork can be crushed like steerer tube

[@keithhudson4638]

Caption : The Clint Eastwood team reveal new 2020 kit.

[@kamucho]

The segment on the hour record was absolutely fascinating!

[@budycelyn]

(boredom training) sat pedalling away on a turbo trainer watching someone riding on a gravel road for an hour or so on my laptop screen,,,, just what i do now using Clint Gibbs gravel road video :)

[@cup_and_cone]

Plot twist: The same reason suspension stems are garbage, altering the handlebar geometry, is exactly what the Specialized Future Shock does. And I'm not talking about the really poor designs like the Girvin which twists the bar rotation as it travels on an arc, but even the later Softride stems that were parallel 4 bar designs to maintain tilt were trash. Even though the Specialized moves on a straight telescoping plane, the travel path of the 4 link designs were relatively straight and not as dissimilar as Specialized marketing would have you believe.

[@charliebamford2807]

Well done to Gillette. Great to see a Manufacturer where imagination isn't dead

[@Dedicated2FitnessAUS]

Come back tech: Twin front chain rings and 7 speed rear cluster!! That 14 speed !innovation !!!

[@geoff2824]

Dedicated To Fitness got a 6 speed (13-26) on mine

[@paulmcneil7468]

It was nice to see how much Dan's cyclocross riding has improved on extreme corner.

[@brutsalvadi]

14 degrees... Obviously we go with the full winter kit! Are you kidding?!

[@Pasdechevredreamer]

I had a Girvan flexstem on my Rockhopper, good idea but limited use.

[@jackatmensacosacoaching]

It is less straightforward f you read the study around the higher impact that very high intensity interval has over longer time intervals. In order to have increased gains, those 30 seconds need to be at your absolute highest intensity and having coached many of these sessions in the gym I know that most will never be able to hit 30 seconds at their top level, let alone for repeated times with only 15 seconds recovery.

[@goodwincycles7197]

Caption “Oscar has a seVilla lack of fashion taste”

[@freddag7050]

#captioncontest My conjoined twin Ford turned literally white and blue in the face when I revealed my new aero helmet design, claiming it was even worse than my previous attempts at R&D, not even a helmet and borderline lame. To which I pompously replied: "No, llama".

[@markmarlatt1105]

Have we tested the effects of a beard on aerodynamics? Maybe it actually disperses the wind and helps you go faster!

[@chris_noswe]

Google it

[@raff5604]

That's not a doctor that's Simon in glasses...Go Ollie Go!!!!!

[@petermead4992]

Always enjoy seeing Dan Lloyd on the show. He's the best.

[@adccars359]

I had the stem dampner on my gt mtb in 1995 with rock shox. I kept the flex to a min. Cool tech for the time imo. Could be refined in 2020 for sure. In stems or seat post

[@geoff2824]

Go Ollie, you’ve got this!

[@neonstz]

Campagnolo already makes a €160 corkscrew bottle opener.

[@srinivasvaradaraj7784]

Love me some GCN shows. Keep the great shows coming guys ! Thanks.

[@ravinmad666]

Hack/Bodge saddle bodge... In the formula one racing world it was commonplace to use expanding foam to fit the seat to the driver. Their method was basically get driver to sit in the bucket seat and fill a bin liner with expanding foam to mould a seat insert tailored for every driver.

[@gcn]

Very interesting! But is that a hack or bodge in you opinion?

[@jkmaseruman]

Caption: Oscar's prize for winning this race was A Fistful of Dollars.

[@newttella1043]

Good one! But GCN guys might not know this.

[@jkmaseruman]

Maybe Newt but feeling confident that Si and Dan are a couple of spaghetti western loving hombres.

[@4675636B]

It's not even a comeback. "Gravel bike" is evolving towards the current MTB and pretending that gradually adding MTB parts to road bikes until they become full MTB is innovation. It's fairly hilarious to watch marketing departments at work.

[@johndef5075]

Chasing their tails....what happened to fat and + bikes?

[@Choedron]

I actually like my RedShift suspension stem on my gravel bike. It prevents my carpal tunnel syndrome to become really bad, leading to numb hands, when riding on gravel. It absorbs the the small repetitive bumps well, which are the worst for the carpal tunnel syndrome hands. But you can still feel all other bumps.

[@raysmith2602]

Caption. Now that's what I call a blanket finish

[@tomnewham1269]

My million dollar idea is a gravel bike with 26 inch wheels.

[@adamkeifenheim1727]

I think a stage race in which you have to use 1 bike (frame, fork, wheels, stem, seatpost, and handlebars) the entire time makes sense instead of saying "no aero"

[@wp1225]

I think 26" wheels will make a comeback in a few years. Also 3x drive trains.

[@Paddyhudson]

Can you send Si over here to Canada next January so that he can film a Canadian winter training series?

[@simonrichardson5259]

Ah, yeah, er... I’m quite busy next January.

[@hanstamminga1187]

Surprised you didn't mention the softride stem, those were pretty popular back in the day.

[@neilmdon]

Caption: Going bike alpacaing

[@MrBootgrab]

Tinker is still the man..we live in the same neighborhood...i often see him on his cannondale cruisin.

[@davehause8571]

That Kinekt stem looks more like the Softride suspension stem... actually a direct copy.

[@kevinbowe]

Bring back 'Clunkers' with modern internal hubs, 29" wheels and carbon/aluminum frames.

[@pableche]

Caption: "Indeed some heros do wear capes"

[@sueneilson896]

Bio-pace elliptic chain wheels. Used to be a must have... for about 5 minutes.

[@ozmadman]

Lance Armstrong winning the TDF

[@FMXeXo]

Tinker Juarez still comes out to a race near me to school all the locals every year. He won the 100 mile MTB race this last year in just over 9 hours!

[@carlosflanders518]

Ha! Neal was very embarrassed at the end of the day when someone told him his shirt was inside out. They're never going to let him forget it.

[@hayl3yam]

Keeping with the Retro vibe, just came across this video. Can successfully say that I checked all of Dan's boxes; Avocet computer, Mix Tapes for turbo sessions and Claudio Chiappucci Carrera team kit!!

[@paulmurden7621]

I love Oli's statement of "When you've worked with other top athletes". The big headed bogger

[@afischer8327]

'Tabletops look quite easy, I reckon I could pull off one.' So glad Dan didn't mix his words up in this seventeenth edit.

[@CaptainMurdoc1]

Caption competition: „His riding-Type: Poncheur“

[@danbuck9214]

Oscar Sevilla truly embracing his role as a ponchoeur.

[@gcn]

Incredible

[@Camillita1977]

I want to see more lugged steel all road bikes in beautiful extravagant paint schemes

[@markj.a351]

Long term plan. Start developing your own rim brakes so after they have all disappeared you can then wait 10 years or so and then release them as a new innovation.

[@trevorhayes5414]

I just had to pause the vid so I could send a pic of the vomit area to social media. Classic! Love the handlebars! Or in the immortal words of Lord Flashheart, "...gives me something to hang onto! Woof!"

[@williamcorrea7964]

Caption: "That's right he's wearing the Mountain winner jersey". I can relate im colombian.

[@EmyrDerfel]

27:20 Insulation products featuring foil don't work properly if there's no airgap next to the foil.

[@robertcoates2752]

Please have Dan do a video of him doing table tops on a dropbar gravel bike. That is a video we all need to see.

[@brianschiff35]

Let’s bring back 23mm tires pumped up to 120psi and let’s put them on steel wheels. That would be fun.

[@markpritchard]

Bring back the Tioga disc drive, if anything for the amazing sound it makes when your whizzing along down hill.

[@tabishop3]

Caption: Oscar can a-Ford to pick-up the pace because he knows how to re-cover properly afterwards.

[@mralbg271]

Caption: Oscar wants to remind elder cyclists to promote blood flow by staying warm, which is why he participates in Operacion Poncho.

[@Lacking_something]

What bike was Sevilla on underneath that poncho? Looks aluminium or even steel. Tasty!

[@seankaryczak8702]

caption: It's Oscar "Pancho" Sevilla!