Re-Testing the Active 2.0

[@JonathanCastro-rc2xl]

I've used this sprayer several times now on brick pavers, a wood deck, patio, and a driveway. kzbin.infoUgkx43QMbQqu67IZadu9ou8Sg1BdrunMRNqX It has performed as expected on all surfaces. For larger areas like the decks and patios, I think I will be looking into a surface cleaner attachment to speed up the job, or at least make it a little easier. Hose and sprayer connections are tool-less, tight, and quick. I used the yellow nozzle on the concrete/brick surfaces, and the pressure was adequate for cleaning those surfaces.I am disappointed that these units are still being shipped with a nozzle storage holder that allows them to vibrate out of the holder way too easily and become lost, but I don't want to knock off a star for that reason. The functional part of the washer works very well, so I would recommend this product.

[@PetrosArgy]

This is the best of your review videos so far. It might seem long and boring to some, but this is what it looks like when someone who really knows their stuff in a given field does serious testing. We're constantly learning how to better interpret the numbers (I'm an electrician, so numbers are a part of my daily work) and you did a great job here of showing how to deal with numbers that don't seem to make any sense at first glance and how to overcome long-heId assumptions when they're challenged by a new set of data. That's how we further our knowledge to become even more expert and experienced in our fields. I really wish I had found this before last Saturday when my old Karcher died and I ran out and got a Greenworks for the same price as the basic kit from Active.

[@dalebyers9877]

In my experience the way you wash Matt, is a different type of wash. You're generally washing a car that is coated, and not that dirty. Low pressure and high flow work well. When I am detailing a customer's car that is filthy and has zero protection on the paint, I need more pressure to blast through the scum. I carry nozzles for both types. There is o cookie cutter answer

[@cue03]

This is a valid point and I am with you in the camp of “normal” everyday folk not the ceramic coated or the oh I just ran through a puddle I must wash my car as soon as I get home crowd. Lol. Poking fun at those guys of course. I am wash every couple of weeks or even every other month. So the dirt is real on my vehicles. I also want to use the pressure washer for around the house and not just to wash my vehicles.

[@stealthhtm23]

so Dale, what nozzle & cannon orifice would you suggest for this 2.0 unit for us that wash dirty vehicles

[@tacoeatinmonkey]

@@stealthhtm23 I am interested as well!

[@Reedith]

@@cue03 I'm in the same boat it's really hard to get the kind of information that we need because all of these KZbinrs are watching coded cars and care about GPM so I'm trying to figure out which one of these units can also put some real PSI through to get the grime and dirt off a four-wheel drive adventure and wash down the driveway and the side of the garage and a front porch ...etc. I want it to be just as high quality as these units that they test here with total stop and everything but with the ability to ramp it up for real cleaning and then nozzle it down for a wash every now and then. So the question is which unit is that ?

[@annagraham6204]

@@Reedith From what I’m getting watching all these channels is the electrical outlet is the limiting factor regardless of what it says on the pressure washer. 15amp 120v is going to cap your psi. Manipulating psi with a smaller nozzle and it taxes the unit causing it to surge or trip breaker. Probably would have to go gas for high psi and use a bigger nozzle when gpm is needed.

[@Reaper-Jim]

Here’s the thing with the psi, you only need about 150 (with around 1.8-2.0 flow) to be effective. That’s it. Yeah, sounds low but that’s the truth. If you double the psi, you double your cleaning units and become that much more effective. At around 500 psi, the return on being effective starts to diminish unless you increase the flow. So on and so forth. Anything 500 psi to 1000 psi (with 1.8-2.0 flow) is absolutely fine for washing cars. The “hand” test is actually a pretty fair test … if it hurts your skin, it’s probably too much psi. My guess is that this Active 2 is going to get its most efficient performance with a 5-6 nozzle. You have to remember, 1000 psi at 2.0 gpm feels much different than 1000 psi at 1.2 gpm. The Active 2 is a legit machine for cheap. I would still recommend a Kranzle but it’s totally understandable for this to be a contender. 😊😊😊

[@andrewzazaian4688]

Wow that's interesting I think for just rinsing my car after my hand wash I'll just go with a 6.0 because I want more water don't need that much force

[@LM-mc2lm]

It’s mind blowing how organized your set ups are

[@DownHillgamer]

Makes me anxious just thinking about my cluttered up detail set up lol, very lack luster in comparison.

[@Omasis08]

I’m still a firm believer that 1000psi is the sweet spot for washing a car. It’s down to personal preference and application. Some things are gonna require more pressure over flow and vice versa. That aside, you cannot question the 2.0s performance on a standard household circuit. Unreal. It’s the perfect step closer to a Kränzle without breaking the bank. Definitely my next purchase after my ryobi craps out.

[@johnnelwhite]

Im still rocking the karcher 1700 with your ultimate accessory package. when it finally blows up I'll definitely get the active 2.0.

[@randomnetwork1995]

Mtm hydro 4.5 blue safety nozzle seems like a sweet spot.

[@ricardogomez01]

If it’s 5.0 vs 4.0 why not just do 4.5?

[@lawnboycommercial]

When I was young, I worked for a pressure washing repair company and sales. I was working as a big welder welding the Heating tanks together and the technician that had been there for 20 years. Told me when buying a pressure washer don’t look at the psi look at the GPM, he said he would rather have higher GPM then higher PSI I hope this helps 😊

[@bimmerboi_hutch]

Can't wait to get it!! Been excited for this one for months

[@oct2274]

time to get some panels and get them dirty with various soil types. cook it on and test with various pressures/flows to see which ones get the jobs done

[@Lakers_824]

Love all the videos of the Active 2.0, but was there a reason why you didn't test with a 4.5? I'm just curious, because I might buy 4.0, 4.5, and 5.0.

[@ObsessedGarage]

I would suggest getting all three. That way you can test and see which you like most.

[@johnnelwhite]

I finally retired my karcher k1700 cube after finding the 2.0 with 20% off. Picked up a 5.0 since it comes with a 4.0, ill take the 2.1 gpm all day. Its definitely a few steps up from the k1700 cube. Ive been rocking with your ultimate accessory package for a couple years with no problem.

[@AndyDufresne4]

Looking for any helpers for Mike? Considering a career change

[@BySixa]

Good luck bro

[@Maverik259]

@@BySixa lol

[@MikeFigueira]

I do have my son if that day comes👍🏻

[@Enonymouse_]

thanks for rechecking

[@nathanvanhouten2471]

Might just be talking into the wind, but you could rate each pressure washer in terms of fluid power. Sort of like to the ‘cleaning unit’ you mention, but the fluid mechanical version. Fluid power in HorsePower is defined as: [Pressure (psi) X Flow (gpm) / 1714]. Gives you a physical representation of how strong / how many cleaning units you have given each combination of flow and pressure.

[@Trailblazerz710]

Really helpful in helping me understand what is going to give the best results but why it’s gets them.

[@greentipacademy8696]

Darnit Matt, i jumped on the OG Spec Mosmatic 7.0 based on your original expert advice. Looks like i'll making my first OG market place sale! ..just reordered, the OG spec 5.0 based on new expert advice! William from NC

[@mechaet33]

Worst case scenario, and scientific accuracy, Matty has to redo the whole list again! 😆

[@bryanf7021]

Yeah, better re-check all the SunJoe and Ryobi models just to be sure.

[@Enonymouse_]

When in doubt always have 2 known-good working gauges to verify result. Hopefully he gets it sorted out. I already bought the kranzle, don't feel bad about it either way. 🤔

[@Jeeper1378]

Time to invest in the tester James has and retest the 125 PW’s again 🤣

[@JustinKraft]

its almost like you could see himself saying no f-ing way am I re-testing all these pressure washers...As someone that really appreciates the willingness to do all these tests for all of us only to have this hicup in the data is such a bummer

[@tbell679]

@@JustinKraft “Hiccup” is an understatement, it was blatant false advertisement until this video came out. I’m sure the unit will work fine but the initial video fooled us into buying it.

[@davidmorgan2964]

This video really helped me understand the nozzles - thanks

[@jakesta11]

I bought 3 identical pressure guages and had a variance of 300 PSI between them... I don't trust Amazon guages to affect my happiness in a product.

[@andrewzazaian4688]

Wow that's interesting to be that far apart is crazy I guess you can't look at the PSI much probably more important for more water flow

[@jakesta11]

@@andrewzazaian4688 ya - was really disappointed. Same product wacky results

[@bobbystefano]

seems like 4.5 would be the one?

[@seabreezeof]

4.5 is the sweet spot !!! and 1.25 orfice for foam canon

[@DaveofAllTrades75]

Hey Matt I purchased one of these and like a previous Commenter I’m getting about 690 to 700 psi with the stock orifice that they say are 4.0 but the writing on the side clearly says 3.7 which I find odd but either way it’s the ones that come with the pressure washer I also am using the Uber flex hose only temporarily until I can order your call kobrajet 3/8 hose or possibly the other hose you have that’s not sold out as often and my garden hose is 50 feet and the orifice is connected to my mtm Hydro acqualine SGS35 and I’m getting 690 to 700 psi with the 40° nozzle, but I did get the cheap gauge off of Amazon because like everything else that I ordered was out of stock lol I’m still waiting for my MTM pro gauge which I’m pretty sure is a legit gauge to show up so I just got what I could in the meantime so I don’t understand why I am getting lower numbers the numbers I am getting with the stock 4.0 oriffice is what you’re getting in your testing with the 5.0 so somethings definitely wrong here any ideas? Other than the cheap gauge may be being faulty but it has 4.8 out of five rating on Amazon with over 15,000 reviews which you can never trust reviews on Amazon I get that but with that higher rating even people that are honest reviewing it should at least be reading somewhat accurate I would think so I don’t understand why I’m getting several hundred less psi than you did.

[@seabreezeof]

After getting the MTM gauge has the numbers changed ?

[@plasticbmw]

That means all your readings for the other pressure washers are most likely off...you've really been using the same Guage this whole time?

[@travisorwick9559]

So you sent me the 7.0 nozzles already. Do I send them back and you will send the 5.0 when we get the washer

[@ObsessedGarage]

Reach out to support and they'll get you squared away

[@Aloha96789]

Are these repairable or when they break do you throw it away and get another?

[@m3clubracer]

Always have a master (calibrated) gage. Use it to double check. Gages get knocked around and dropped. If you drop it, it’s pretty much toast. Also, is there no break-in period to any of these units? How about retesting all the units after a break-in timeframe with the new gage. Just bought a 2.0 from you yesterday and getting 5.0 nozzles.

[@PetrosArgy]

I know more about electrical test gear than pressure test gear, but I could add a recommendation to keep two pressure gauges in line with the main pressure washer in the shop - one permanently installed, the other on quick connects with a bypass. That one could be used for mobile testing and, as long as it reads correctly to the main gauge before and after testing, you can trust it. Electricians do something similar when verifying absence of voltage where we test a known hot wire, then the one we need to verify as off, then the known hot wire again to verify the meter is working properly. Sounds crazy, but it keeps us safe.

[@m3clubracer]

@@PetrosArgy I was planning on installing one in my system but haven't gotten around to it. I did install an inline amp monitor that accumulates time. Worried about my 15a circuit trippin changing nozzles!

[@zorantb]

Hope you guys are going to accommodate the people that pre-ordered on day one and already got the 7.0 nozzles with their packages :(

[@zorantb]

​@@peterjohnson8631 I didn't. You can order a "solution" package from them that includes an upgraded spray gun, wand, foam bottle, hose, fittings, etc. It costs around $500 for their recommended package and comes with the pressure washer. We didn't get the pressure washers yet since they didn't ship. But with us pre-ordering on day-one we were sent the packages with the 7.0 nozzles since thats what they recommended and included in their solution packages. But now that they found their mistake with the faulty tester I can only hope they own up to it and send us day-one pre-orders the correct 5.0 nozzles. Its (hopefully) the right thing to do since we were sent the wrong sizes by buying in on day-one. And this isn't meant to be a critical comment on OG - everyone makes mistakes - I'm still a regular customer.

[@ObsessedGarage]

If you decide that the 7.0 does not give you enough pressure, reach out to our support team and we will send you nozzles at no additional cost

[@kanyao]

4.0 nozzle: 950*1.9=1805CU; 5.0 nozzle: 700*2.1=1470CU, pure cleaning power 4.0 is better. But we are talking about car wash, don't need that much pressure to remove dirt.

[@olk3]

Just got your Active 2.0 Ultimate kit, with the nice long hose and Griot's foamer. Note, I'm coming from 40 years of buckets and sponges only, so can't compare w other power washers. The only Griot's product I have is from a warehouse error that sent a bottle of some magic detailing potion instead of ski gloves. This pressure washer is terrific! What a time-saver! And so easy to set up and use. How have I lived without a foamer? It did great with city dirt; we'll see how it does over the summer with weekly offroad, and bug-laden motorcycles.

[@buzby80]

Looking forward to seeing these in the hands of more reviewers! Hopefully others are just as impressed. Every other PW is suggested running around 1000psi except this one at 750psi. There’s no black magic here, it’s just a 120v wobble pump. It’s hard to believe it’s doing something special. I hope I’m wrong though.

[@ObsessedGarage]

All those "reviews" just copy what I do, so I'm not sure what help they would provide.

[@orthodox1717]

My AR 630 TSS puts out 1100 PSI and 2.0 GPM with a 4.0 nozzle. This was with an MTM gauge. I remember when you tested the 630 TSS you more PSI and GPM.

[@kimjung2442]

He got 975 psi and 2.3 gpm with 5.0

[@pawtata]

Are your pressure gauges calibrated regularly? If not, you should definitely consider doing that. There should be commercial calibration labs in your area that can help with that.

[@ObsessedGarage]

They are working properly.

[@Cleofizoid]

You weren't calibrating that gauge you used for a hundred tests? Or at least comparing to a calibrated gauge? Placebo effect? Hehehe, erm no, all your pressure readings in last hundred tests are suspect.

[@orthodox1717]

How do you calibrate the gauge?

[@Cleofizoid]

@@orthodox1717...erm. Apparently that's what he said. lmao

[@johnclark8631]

At least have a spare new gauge to quickly compare before each test and if no difference then likely al good but if that guard goes out of whack you will see a differential between the 2 gauges and can investigate further before continuing testing.

[@Harvz78]

What do they use on those self car wash stations? Those are running hours and hours every day, and outputting not lower than 2 GPM.

[@ObsessedGarage]

Many of them use Cat pumps.

[@1_Moretime]

I like the pressure between 800-900 psi. so the 4.0 - 4.5 will work perfect for my setup.

[@1_Moretime]

@@peterjohnson8631 That’s perfect for me when washing a car. 2 gpm is giving me more water, so I don’t need as much pressure.

[@1_Moretime]

@@peterjohnson8631 2 gpm not .4

[@randomnetwork1995]

I agree mtm hydro 4.5 safety nozzle is what I'll be using

[@KiranPatel-fk1pg]

@@randomnetwork1995 What does the brand of nozzle have to do with it?

[@randomnetwork1995]

@@KiranPatel-fk1pg it doesn't just stating mtm hydro has a nice blue safety nozzle that's a 4.5

[@seashackf1]

27:32 It’s hilarious how everybody now just parrots that 1000psi is their ideal pressure, when Matt has always said he made it up. Too many sheep, not many think for themselves. People also don’t know how to modify or fix things to suit their needs. They need some one to tell them what to do.

[@ObsessedGarage]

Yeah...they are all copying what I made up and have no idea. They just shop Amazon. I'm inventing stuff that they don't know anything about.

[@seashackf1]

@@ObsessedGarage I modify things all the time to suit my needs, just like you’ve done. You’re just much smarter about it and have made $$$$ doing it. Fair play to you for doing it.

[@morati1963]

Honest comparison, much appreciated!

[@Jeeper1378]

Did it effect any other test? for us that pre ordered. What tip are you going to include?

[@Youslopp]

Relative psi between washers within each video is still important knowledge, even if the gauge was reporting wrong somewhere along the way. It definitely didn't oscillate between broken and unbroken during a single video. That said, if you did an updated series where you averaged psi readings across a few gauges/gauge types, I'd probably watch it.

[@ObsessedGarage]

It worked fine in our last SunJoe series. That was the last time I used it before the Active video. I must have been dropped.

[@connorsmith6546]

Can’t wait to get my hands on one!

[@jesuscontreras6136]

Why you don’t try canpump Electric Pressure Power Washer 110V 2.0 HP Commercial 1500 PSI 2.20 GPM

[@joshuamason1979]

Just pre-ordered, cannot wait

[@timbrown9731]

I’m just as perplexed as Matty, I know at the winery we need absolute pressure to blast the gunk on the side of our wine tanks and we got some janked knock off MTM version, but we got some incredible gas pressure washers with a V twin gas motor behind them I need to find out what pressure we’re running at now you got me curious Matty

[@The404169]

Right now I’m in the gather information stage to then buy a detailing pressure washer in October or November 2022 I will most likely buy the ultimate package Originally I was convinced I would buy an AR675 - then I saw your Active 2.0 review Which do you feel is a better machine One thing - I own a SUV - a full size pickup - motorcycle - & a motorhome I want to take the machine with me on the motorhome Will the foam cannon reach the top of a 11.5 foot motorhome wall

[@CP-rm7rz]

I am in position to purchase a Kranzle but im getting the Active 2.0

[@MC-ht6lw]

Me too

[@islepilot]

I love these videos, and the discussion of the conundrum. Maybe you could "calibrate" your hand test by pulling closer to the nozzle until you just feel stinging, and report the distance in inches. I bet you are a lot closer at the lower PSI readings than the 1000 PSI....just means you might need to wash a bit closer with the lower cost options like the Active 2.0 maybe?

[@CarsWithKeav]

Worst case in the end you are still getting VE52 performance which is incredible with a sleek design that works well on wall mount and is much more durable. Will be cool to see the numbers we all get once we get the 2.0. I always seem to get 100 PSI less than your numbers at my house.

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@peterjohnson8631 Works well due to the new position of the inlet and outlet being at the side. Less room needed to mount and really helps mobile retailers with trailer setups needing a small form factor.

[@KenyonPayne]

I think the cheap pressure gauges read different. I run a 4.0 nozzle on my ve52 and only see like 7 or 800 but still has plenty of power to wash stuff. Even small 2.5 nozzles can't hit 1800. Maybe try a new MTM or high quality gauge and give it a go?

[@Jeeper1378]

Same

[@donalexey]

You want be able to hit 1800 with washers of max pressure 1800. They shut their motor before reaching that number. For example Karcher pro series has working pressure 2175, but max pressure 3250

[@hhattingh]

Water is like electrictricity. The longer the distance, gauge or number of resistance (couplings/diltering system) will make a difference. Was the gauge and length of hoses the same? It was mentioned in the first test that one can't expect the same pressure with a 20-30' foot hose vs shorter. In that test group the nozzles were compared to output voltage and water output. Perhaps your hose is a lot shorter/longer on this test. I can't see if it runs through the same hose as the bigger machine but I do see what may be a thinner black hose connected to a shorter blue source. Just speculating here..

[@ObsessedGarage]

On most pumps hoses under 150' in with 1/4" or 3/8" test at the same pressure.

[@hhattingh]

Thanks. I learned something today.

[@Demonoid1990]

Looking at getting either the Active 2.0 or MI-T-M Choremaster for washing my semi, trailers, pick-up, and house/property. Either one is pretty compact, and I'd like to keep it with me on the road. I'll have to double check what the amperage is rated at on my inverter, I know it's 2500 watts. With how filthy my trucks get, in short time too, I have to wash em a lot. Plus I live on the Oregon coast, so roof of the house gets plastered in moss and fir needles.

[@IHFarmer2007]

Would a 3/8" hose make a difference vs a 1/4" hose?

[@mrblock2013]

He has done testing on this in the past and it makes no difference.

[@trusttester]

Active is lot noisier than kranzle. I’m opening a detailing workshop in Italy. I will definitely go for kranzle. What would you recommend? Thank you.

[@ObsessedGarage]

HD10 for Europe

[@trusttester]

@@ObsessedGarage What?

[@ryancollins3967]

In the previous test you ran an upgraded output hose, would using the stock hose impact this second round of numbers? Just think of maintaining controls.

[@ObsessedGarage]

The hose won't have any effect on total performance.

[@robertstarner8083]

What diameter inlet hose do you recommend?? 5/8 OR 3/4 in diameter?? OR doesn’t it matter?? Thank you… Dr Bob

[@ObsessedGarage]

It doesn’t matter. I usually use 5/8”.

[@ryancowles5633]

Anywhere from 950-1100 seems to be the sweet spot. You get enough flow yet enough pressure to cut through the crud and any built up dirt if it’s a muddy/lesser kept vehicle. Me personally I’m going to start out with the active 2.0 once I get my shop going and then after a while or it just burns out and dies I’ll bite the bullet and get a Krenzla

[@cue03]

I wonder with this retest how effective this will be to clean a deck or the garage floor or something other than cars. And before everyone throws up you must have a gas pressure washer for that please keep in mind I am no professional and have no problems taking my time. I have used neighbors Ryobi at 1.1 gpm and around 1700psi and it worked to visibly get the job done. Sure it wasn’t as fast as a gas pressure washer but it wasn’t “all-day”. I am not doing this to make money.

[@Reedith]

Yes I'm also looking for one of these electric ones that has the meat to actually clean some things as well hard to get the info though because everyone only tests them for washing cars ...:(

[@jimmymathers2662]

I recently purchased a ryobi water broom & undercarriage cleaner. Checking to see if it will work with the active 2.0? Looking to use setup for cleaning our Tiffin Allegro 34pa motorhome.

[@ObsessedGarage]

You would need to change the nozzles to add up to 4.0 in size.

[@erikpechmann879]

Finally received my Active 2.0 after waiting for the new batches to arrive. Super stoked setting it up and getting all the connections and hoses setup. That’s where the excitement ended… the unit is cycling on and off at will without the trigger being pressed. There are no leaks in the system and plenty of water into the unit - not my first PW. Contacted customer service and they agreed, not normal. Asked me to send in a video which I happily did. After that, zero contact…. I have called and emailed multiple times and nothing. This is one of the worst customer experiences I’ve had. All I would like is for a suggested fix, or exchange. Next time I’ll spend the extra money, especially if that means the service is better. I’ve lost a week… honestly not acceptable. Just something to consider if you are looking.

[@iPanda310]

air in the system forsure

[@rodr.j5513]

Bro your personality is chill

[@robertobermeier9172]

I have seen lots of youtubers do this with the gauge but im confused as to how the placement of the gauge tells you the pressure comming out of the tip. Isnt that the pressure that matters. Hard to question what everyone seems to be doing especially Matt.

[@ObsessedGarage]

They are all copying me. I'm not sure how you would measure any other way.

[@robertobermeier9172]

@@ObsessedGarage well, to be fair im trying to copy you too. Lol . Im just not making video's. Yes not sure how else you would do it either. It seems like checking before the spray tip should not work but the fact that the pressure does change with each different nozzle size says maybe it is a good way to check it. Thanks Matt. Ordered my 2.0 from you 2 month ago and just trying to get it close to your #s as i can.

[@uncagork]

You would put it on the outlet of the gun. In place of the nozzle. You are getting psi on an open line if you test it the way you’re doing it. Pressure gauges should not be in series.

[@ryanl8653]

The measurement should be Kinetic Energy (force)!!! That is a relationship between mass (flow) and velocity (PSI). That is what you are "feeling" on your hand. What pressure you have AT THE HOSE, is irrelevant! As soon as the water comes out, pressure will drastically change, pressure is only half the equation, and will vary greatly on distance, but you will still have the same volume of water at different distances. You should put a scale against the wall and measure the impact pressure at set distances, and tip sizes.

[@nickydexgg4579]

New gauge might be broken too.

[@kwalbangr6173]

Matt, it looks like you are going between a 1/4 inch and 3/8 inch hose. What are your thoughts (or anybody else's) about using a bigger hose like the 3/8 inch to get more flow?

[@ObsessedGarage]

It doesn't work that way. The ID of the hose once pressurized has almost no gain or loss based on size.

[@steher]

Does the hose length matter? The 2.0 has a 20ft hose and the other one rolled up is much longer.

[@ObsessedGarage]

The hose length only matters once you hit around 100' of hose. But even then the difference is hardly noticable.

[@BMan100]

Jeeze, I've never seen someone so perplexed lol.

[@jimmyjohnjohn5132]

Gotta say the obvious here, 38 mins on retesting? Obsessed is the only word, kickin butt Matt. Can’t wait to get mine!

[@seashackf1]

In an early video during the big pw testing, you talked to a guy from a pw rating agency. He said something about needing to go from 1/4 hose to 3/8” for a longer length hose, over 50’. If I remember correctly it has something to do with surface area. I’m still a little confused about that. Does it only matter for a high gpm machine? Active is now saying you can’t use a 1/4” hose on the new 2.3. Need to use 3/8” steel braided, otherwise will get surging.

[@ObsessedGarage]

Yes, 50' or less, there isn't much measurable difference. I'd just stick with 3/8" at any size. It's a safer bet, and no one makes a decent 1/4".

[@Ole_Lige]

yesterday Amazon had the Karcher 1700 for 119.00, so there's that

[@johnnelwhite]

Lol I still have my 1700 cube from when he tested it.

[@g.dubyou6263]

James latest video, claims the unit will be shipping with a 3.7 nozzle. Wouldn’t the 2.0 with more flow than the Krānzle, feel more powerful, because you’re pushing more water?

[@Jeeper1378]

Thats what he said

[@g.dubyou6263]

@@Jeeper1378 I hadn’t watched the whole video before I commented. Just got finished with it.

[@firemanrh]

Awesome review. Have you ever done a "mobile detail" test with an external water pump such as a 3GPM pump between the water tank and the pressure washer? Thanks again for the great review.

[@ObsessedGarage]

I haven’t.

[@kipsmith2017]

I wonder if your confusion from Active to Krenzel pressure is your hose length. Should maybe comparing with same hose length?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Hose length under 150' is negligible when it comes to flow and pressure.

[@kawidaddy]

In other vids you subtracted 2.3lbs for bucket ,not 2.75lbs, i believe. I am a bit disappointed in the new numbers. Im about #100 on the list, so we'll see what shes got when she gets here. Thanks for the update vid.

[@Nadimarco90]

When is it coming out I just pre ordered mine

[@ObsessedGarage]

They are on the water. Should be any week now.

[@Nadimarco90]

@@ObsessedGarage thanxx man I’m excited been using the Harbor freight special power washer for my Mobil detailing business.

[@MattSump]

Is it the same unit as the one at OG HQ? I have to imagine at this price point there's a % variation on performance.

[@heeltoe6845]

as with any product there is always slight variation. a pump has tight tolerances so the % difference should be very low.

[@Bullybeef972]

Can you send the link where to buy the 4.0 and 5.0 nozzle? thanks!

[@ObsessedGarage]

www.obsessedgarage.com/products/og-spec-mosmatic-nozzle-assembly

[@waynemaranduik2138]

Awesome series of reviews for pressure washers. I am in Ontario Canada and would mainly look at washing my car, boat and patio. Would you recommend the Active 2.0 or VE52 or Karcher 1700? Active is a CDN company and would love to support them, but they would be the top of my budget for an electric pressure washer. Thx!!

[@ObsessedGarage]

Active would be the better choice.

[@waynemaranduik2138]

@@ObsessedGarage Thanks! Much of a difference between the 2.0 and the VE52? There's about $150 difference in price between the two. Any issues carrying, mobility with a cube type pressure washer?

[@alancongratssoonyoullhead5273]

Hi Matt The price we are getting here is Canadian, because you said $350 but we get like $433

[@elevatedboost7444]

So if money is not an issue you would still suggest AR 630?

[@davidbram]

@10:53 - OG spec is what you're selling, right?

[@clay3544]

Thanks for the update Matt 👍🏽

[@ChristianA328]

As long as it’s better than my ryobi that I’m using now I’m good.

[@Maverik259]

So anyone else thinking of just canceling their 2.0 order now and sticking with the VE52?

[@jonathanwinston9958]

Literally bought the ve52 yesterday. So glad after 👀

[@dct223]

No

[@gunsmokezz]

Not worth the 10% performance gain from the ve52. My current ve52 is getting 1.9 @ 800 psi at $200 sale.

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@gunsmokezz These are the numbers that I was getting on my first VE52 and my 2nd seems to be 100 PSI more with the same GPM. Thought maybe my gauge was going out, but I have 3 and they are all the same. Good thing for me I didn't buy on performance. I bought for the form factor and increased durability. I'll do a side by side once I get mine.

[@moe2527]

I have a crappy sunjoe that's ready to go sleep so I'll stick with my order

[@grilodan]

Man, if they only sorted out that noise on the AR. What a great option, but it is NOISYYYYY!!!

[@amgronseth]

So how would this compare to an entry level gas pressure washer like the Simpson 2800? It’s close in price but what is going to be the major advantages of each system?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Gas pressure washers are too loud and release exhaust fumes, so they can't be used in enclosed spaces. The Active 2.0 is much more silent and is way easier to use and maintain

[@bogieman101]

Since Active won't answer my email, quite a few stories popping up about the UberFlex 1/4" still causing surging issues on the 2.0. You have any info on this? Not impressed with Active's non response.

[@ObsessedGarage]

Why would you want to use that crappy hose? Get a real hose

[@bogieman101]

@@ObsessedGarage Apparently a sore subject. A huge portion of PW users swear by the UberFlex. Lighter, easier to use. I am just getting into the pressure washer for my personal vehicles and light and easy to use gets my attention. I don't care if I have to replace the hose every year or two. But back to the subject, the UBF is extremely popular for a reason, and I have not heard of anyone having an issue with surging on any other (cheap) PW, and wasn't expecting the problem on the 2.0 with the redesign for longer hoses. Oh and Active did just respond and says to use it with steel meshed lined hoses. So I guess you count on using an UBF at your own risk

[@DriftaholiC]

Sounds like there is an equation but it's more like Pressure/GPM than GPM+Pressure. Or in other words you want X amount of pressure per gallon dispensed.

[@donalexey]

Pressure * GPM = Power. Considering 15 Amp ~ 1650 W is the max power available. If you want good washer you have to step up to 240V.

[@sandiashinecollc2665]

I'm a mobile detailer and I'm currently using a SunJoy from Sam's gravity fed. I'm planning to buy the Active 2.0. On a gravity fed set up with the tank elevated 12 inches over the inlet, what recommendations do yall have for the Active 2.0? Should I look at a different machine? I'm also currently running a Preditor 4550 inverter generator from Harbor Freight. Thank you all for your thoughts and tips.

[@ObsessedGarage]

I think I really want a pump for the tank. Active will pull from the tank, but I'm unsure how well it will do.

[@sandiashinecollc2665]

@ObsessedGarage thanks for the tip. I'll have to upgrade my pump. I have one from harbor freight that is only on all the time so I got a split n it is always a delicate balance between passing back to the tank and the machine

[@rickschattilly6398]

With a gauge inline like you have set up can sometimes have a venturi effect

[@donalexey]

It is way bigger orifice than the nozzle, there should be no notable effect.

[@Quintanater]

Can’t decide between the active 2.0 vs greenworks 2300 2.3gpm

[@ObsessedGarage]

That is no contest. Active.

[@coryhauge2798]

Test the bigboi washr flo?!?! Seems like a straight competitor to the 2.0

[@seashackf1]

Using a 25 degree nozzle concentrates the pressure and flow. The difference in flow may be 10%, but the difference in pressure is more like 25%. 200 psi increase from 750 is much more substantial than .2 gpm at 1.9 to 2.1.

[@ObsessedGarage]

If the orifice is the same size, the pressure and flow are the same at any angle. Now, the spot pressure is different, but not measured pressure.

[@seashackf1]

@@ObsessedGarage I guess spot pressure is what I meant when I said concentrates. Seems like a valid way it get more flow or pressure on a given spot. I’m biased though since it’s what I prefer.

[@functionaldoc5054]

Was all the testing done with a 40 degree or 25 degree spray nozzle? So which produces better foam higher GPM or higher psi?

[@minhquanvo1274]

40 degrees or 25 degrees even 0 degrees doesn't determine the psi or gpm but the diameter of the nozzle, the larger the diameter the more gpm and lower psi

[@patricktuggles4815]

Still recommending 4.0 for 1322?

[@ObsessedGarage]

Yes

[@godowarus]

Hope this gets pinned. I don’t think Matt has to retest all the previous pressure washers. The gauge was likely good for those tests and simply wore down over time. It’s just so happens that it blew for the Active 2.0 test. At least the team at Active reached out to OG to correct a discrepancy. Obviously the amperage and gpm shouldn’t deviate far from the original test numbers, just the pressure values will.

[@davidbram]

No, he doesn't have to retest but it sure does throw everything into question.

[@godowarus]

@@davidbram yea it’s just that so many people assume that all the previous results are bad and invalidate his findings just because of a recent mishap that has been corrected. But it also verifies his old general idea of “don’t get too hung up on the numbers and just find your own preferences.”

[@davidbram]

@@godowarus That is his new saying. Lots of video proof of "do it my way or you're an idiot".

[@godowarus]

@@davidbram perhaps so. Personally I’ve always only used his testing as guidelines or a starting point but not following to the tee. Maybe that’s the real conclusion to all this. That he just gives an ideal basis but one should really find what they like

[@ObsessedGarage]

The gauge just failed. It was fine before.

[@CamaroWarrior]

What's the GPM and PSI when using a 2.5 and 3.0 orifice? In case someone is interested in using it for siding or driveway

[@ObsessedGarage]

The lowest size I recommend is the 3.5 nozzle. Going lower runs the risk of over working the pump.

[@bengeeeie]

I’m looking around for pressure washing setups for mobile detailing. I’m curious what either obsessed garage or any other people think of using this system the 2.0 in a mobile detailing set up would be? I would most likely be setting this up in my Subaru Outback.

[@ObsessedGarage]

If I were doing this professionally, I'd really want a rebuildable machine. This is intended for consumers. Many are using it in their business, but I would rather have a Kranzle or AR.

[@bengeeeie]

@@ObsessedGarage thank you for your feedback 🙏. I’ll check out those machines. Love the content you guys put out. Extremely informative and entertaining.

[@DR-rx4lk]

Forget that $1200 machine. Who cares if it is rebuildable. You can buy 3 of the actives for the price of 1.