REACTING to *1x7 Arcane* JINX vs EKKO!! (First Time Watching) League of Legends

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Stella is reacting to another great episode this time it is arcane season 1 episode 7: "The Boy Savior"! We finally have gotten to the awesome faceoff between Jinx and Ekko in this Jinx vs Ekko fight! Additonally, Jinx strikes again on Piltover and Vi and Caitlyn get caught in the crossfire! Enjoy this first time watching league of legends/arcane reaction!
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[@whitenoiseanimereacts]

What is your favoriet fight in this series overall? Don't worry, we have alreayd finished filming.

[@dontbeafool3636]

to be honest the 'no' fight... when Vi punched the wood that made everything collaps.. and the aftermatch... the 1.2.3 hit was also a nod to her ingame mecanics...

[@dontbeafool3636]

but we all know its probably the ekko vs jinx one ;)

[@Hohum37]

There are bigger, flashier fight scenes - but my favourite is the one that starts with Vi's flying knee to Sevika's face. It has some really nice techniques, they both tire quickly from the extreme exertion and punishment, and reach deep into their reserves and determination.

[@vizar1337]

Best Stylistically: ep07 Best Plot-Driving Fight : ep06 Best Fight as a League Player: ep08

[@EternalDensity]

Best music and style: ep 7 Jinx vs. Ekko Best big action: ep 8 Vi & Jace teamup Best 1v1 action and humour: ep 9 Vi vs. Sevika rematch Most brutal: ep 7 Jinx vs. Firelights Fave overall: ep 9 cos it's a good dirty tech-enhanced woman vs. woman grude fight and Vi pauses ti drink and punches an entire table into Sevika and has a Vander moment.

[@ChipnChep]

Marcus knew he wasnt in the right, but he didnt see a way out (without risking the life of his daughter). that's literally what his last scenes with Silco were all about.

[@pedantech]

His original deal with Silco was probably something small like "I'll tell you who was responsible for the lab explosion if you tell me when you make the arrest." He was a rash, ambitious young man who wanted to get the results the counsel members asked for. What he got in Episode 3 wasn't what was agreed upon. He regretted it immediately. From then on, Silco had leverage over him. Marcus kept digging himself a bigger hole, because he didn't see any other choice. He wasn't equipped to stand up to Silco. Who is? He was probably filled with self-loathing, for what the mistake he made when he was young, and for what he was forced to continue doing. He even contemplated blowing Silco and himself up with Jinx's grenade, but then what about his daughter? It's common to dismiss him as simply a bad man, but it's more complicated than that.

[@lockekappa500]

@@pedantech Well there was gold involved too, hence the blood money scene. So I do think there was a bit more of a corruption angle, at least from the beginning. Allowing him to become sheriff in a very timely manner, probably filling his pockets with money also. Marcus is definitely not innocent here by any means, but yes he is entirely too far in to get out.

[@ChipnChep]

From what we can see (his daughters drawings for example), I think it's most likely that his wife died in vanders uprising at the start (where vi&powders parents died), which made him hate the undercity beyond what would be "reasonable" for a man in his position, silco offered him a deal that both helped him bring "criminals" in and make some money, that was his sinful moment, and from then on he probably tried to keep the peace the same way grayson did: by working together with the ruler of the undercity.. Bad idea but for him vander and silco were the same... Until it was too late and he was too deep in. Don't get me wrong, he's a hateful arse, but there's some explanation for it, imho

[@jorgmintel3060]

@@ChipnChep No, his daughter is definitely too young; she was not born at the beginning of the first episode. Maybe Marcus was already married in episode 3 and his wife was already pregnant. His wife must have died in the time skip (which was 6-7 years).

[@etowngftddummy]

Marcus was showing regret by not killing Caitlyn right away, and had a ton of inner turmoil about whether be even should.

[@Hohum37]

Almost boilerplate for me for episode 7: I don't think Jinx was particularly trying to kill Ekko with the grenade. Ekko just looked at her without fear, anger, disgust or hatred - and just saw her as his childhood friend again - and she was just done with living any more. Her expression seems to me like a wistful recognition, and a goodbye. If she wanted to kill him, she could have clamped the grenade to him.

[@nickthompson6390]

This is my interpretation as well, Jinx was just done with it all.

[@Mi_Z]

Yep. I assumed nearly everyone interpreted that scene as a suicide attempt. But I think I've read your same post for multiple reactors... so I guess not.

[@chipstarshine8150]

I feel like that too. It was her way of just ending things on her terms.

[@teradul2480]

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[@thatepicwizardguy]

Silco almost never lies, IF he ever even does. He's a man of complete conviction and does not betray or bend his principles other than to support jinx. He BELIEVES what he's saying. I'm baffled more people don't understand that about him after his scenes with Vander in part 1. Also Markus's death is perfect. He doesn't get to die a hero. He doesn't get to die redeemed. He doesn't die doing anything other than being the corrupt half assed officer he always was. He get an unceremonious pathetic death. All the writing in the show is perfect for a fantasy world telling believable stories with very believable human characters.

[@Fangtorn]

The thing with Silco is that he may believe his own rhetoric, but it doesn't match his actions. Vander was right in what he said about him in episode 3, Silco would sacrifice everything the Undercity is to "free" it from Piltover. He talks about a united Zaun, he tells Jinx "the children of Zaun deserve better than their runoff", but he floods the place with Shimmer, employs children in his factories, and kills anyone who challenges his authority. The Undercity is worse off than it's ever been under him. I can see why someone would get the impression that he's just after personal power, and the revolutionary rhetoric is just an excuse.

[@mortenlu]

@@Fangtorn Can you be so sure? For starters, the end might justify the means. And children working in factories is likely better than what they had before. If you're going to be a leader, you have to make hard choices and take out your challengers.

[@Fangtorn]

​@@mortenlu I'm sure that Vander as a leader cared more about individual lives, especially the lives of children, more than Silco. There's not enough information to judge whether working in a shimmer factory is better overall for Zaunite children then when they were under Vander. We don't know what they're paid, if at all, or the risks involved. In my opinion, the children of the underground are just as disposable a resource for Silco as they are for topside.

[@smileyhappyface5864]

@@Fangtorn "he floods the place with Shimmer, employs children in his factories, and kills anyone who challenges his authority. The Undercity is worse off than it's ever been under him." I feel like it would take a really long time to explain why people are exaggerating the negative affects of shimmer, but I think the fact that so many people are using it recreationally and Ekko himself confirms that the side-effects aren't permanent should speak for themselves. Nobody has ever died just from taking Shimmer, and it isn't inherently addictive any more than Alcohol is. We know from episode 1 alone that child labor is a normal thing for the undercity and not even Vander was bothered by Ekko working at Benzo's, so the implication that they're being forced to work in the shimmer factories relies entirely on the idea that the place is dangerous, something that has not been implied ANYWHERE and the speculation needed to prove it is unnecessary. Renni (the chembaron) wouldn't have her son working there if it was anything but safe. No, Silco does not kill anyone who disagrees with his authority, as is made clear by the Troll lady in the brothel, Jericho the fish cook, and Huck all being left alone. he only goes after the Firelights because they actively try to undermine him by spying on the people who work for him and destroying his stuff wherever they find it (and Jinx's instant response to hearing them in episode 6 implies that they've tried to sneak attack her before, which is a huge nope for Silco). Claiming that the Undercity is worse off than it was with Vander is falling into the same trap Vi fell into, romanticizing the past. The Undercity under Vander had no form of medical help because they weren't allowed in Piltover due to Grayson's deal. Enforcers were perfectly fine with throwing people through walls with little provocation and the fact that nobody has a last name implies that they weren't even legal citizens, meaning that they were subject to the law without the protection of the law. Silco having Marcus under his thumb and therefore making it impossible for the Undercity residents to be arrested by Enforcers is a big improvement on it's own, and the existence of trade that we see in episode 4 and have mentions of in this episode means that, up until the border got closed, people in the undercity were able come and go without much question, so even without Shimmer, people could get more help with their injuries then just wrapping it up in bandages.

[@Fangtorn]

@@smileyhappyface5864 "Nobody has ever died just from taking Shimmer, and it isn't inherently addictive any more than Alcohol is." We don't know that. In the first episode Singed stated that Decker would survive "long enough" which strongly implies it would kill him eventually. Now, I'm willingly to assume that was a prototype version of Shimmer and the variants produced in the years after aren't as dangerous, but that doesn't mean they're safe. Huck and the addicts in the camp are physically deformed, perhaps from taking some cheap, knockoff variant of Shimmer different from that we see used recreationally by Silco's thugs, or from overdosing on it, I don't know, but it looks pretty permanent. Their reaction to Silco's handouts, Huck's willingliness to betray Vi for it, the way it turned them near feral, Decker's reaction to being offered his second, all indicates are far stronger and more dangerous addiction that alcoholism. "idea that the place is dangerous, something that has not been implied ANYWHERE... Renni wouldn't have her son working there if it was anything but safe." The place is a drug factory guarded by Shimmer monsters. It needs to be guarded by such creatures because it's an obvious target for Enforcers or Firelights, so it _is_ anything but safe. That's like saying working in a cartel meth lab guarded by sicarios is safe. Also, children working in factories is inherently dangerous even if they aren't making drugs, and not the same as Ekko fixing things in Bezo's shop. "Silco does not kill anyone who disagrees with his authority" The people you listed didn't openly challenge him. Jericho is just a street vendor who gives Vi a tip, the Troll lady says "things changed without Vander looking out for us" implying things are worse for them and that "a few tried" to stop Silco after Vander but he had "the muscle." Huck went from being protected by Vander to a deformed Shimmer addict who sells Vi out to Silco for a fix. When Finn challenges him he chokes and threatens all the chem-barons. Ekko says that everyone in his group was either "an addict or a victim" and that "most was Silco." None of this is "romanticizing the past." Silco was willing to kill Decker for disobeying him and getting seen, and to kill Vander, Bezos and the children to seize power in the Undercity, and it is very clear he rules it far more brutally than Vander ever did. "The Undercity under Vander had no form of medical help" That's an unfounded assumption. The Undercity has it's own functioning economy, it stands to reason they have _some_ medical services even if inadequate compared to Piltover. Grayson's deal wasn't that literally no one from the Undercity could enter Topside, just criminal elements stirring up trouble. After all Viktor was able to enter Topside and I doubt he went crawling up sewer pipes.

[@johnbowersox738]

According to the writers, there was a 7 year time jump between episodes 3 and 4.

[@JustJoe24]

I love Silco just bringing up air from the undercity and showing he still breathes it everyday, and it wasn't enough for them to handle because they've been so gone

[@coolichkann50zeichenfurden95]

It also shows two things: 1. The chembarons (the "Nobel" class of the undercity, basically drug lords) benefit heavy from the way things are and are fine with it. Just like the topside counselors. It doesn't matter where you from people are the same. 2. Silco is in it only for the cause of independence. He wants to change the system he grown up in for the better, and believe the Independence is the only way

[@LittleMan27]

Silco really does love Jinx as a daughter. He also wants the nation of Zaun to be a real thing, he wants independence. He says the perfect words to Jinx, “You’re perfect the way you are,” etc;

[@stellaa_rrose]

I believe Silco loves Jinx, but I also think he loves that she makes him feel less alone. She is probably the only person he feels real empathy with, and for someone who has gone through as much trauma as he has, that’s very important. But would he still love her if she went down a different path then him? Became well adjusted, and dealt with her emotional baggage without hurting anyone? I wondered that during my watch time.

[@XS-NRG]

@@stellaa_rrose For me, the answer to the question of would he still love her if she were different and got help for her issues was answered by someone on Reddit asking me the simple question of why isn't he willing to allow jinx to have a relationship with vi if he loves her and cares for her wellbeing as much as he says? It made me really look at their relationship. Sure he can claim it's to protect her or to keep vi from hurting her or whatever but he's knowingly hurting her himself because jinx has made it clear she wants her sister in her life. I believe he's afraid that Vi's influence will change jinx in a way he can no longer relate to. Without the trauma that bonds them together. It'll no longer be just the two of them against the world. He's not protecting her mental health, he's desperately protecting their bond. Vi's very existence is a threat to that connection so he's doing everything he can to kill her.

[@stellaa_rrose]

@@XS-NRG YES!!! THIS!!! That’s so well put, thank you random Reddit user! It’s a classic move used by manipulative and abusive parents to isolate their children from friends and anyone who can influence them in a way that the parent doesn’t agree with. And you can reason it up to a certain extent. If your child wants to spend time with someone who is actively trying to hurt them or get them to hurt others then obviously you have your child’s best interests at heart. However I’ve had friends with parents who prevented me from spending time with them simply by merit of the fact that I had different political and religious beliefs from them… I strongly disagree with that! Thank you for your comment, have an amazing day;)

[@LoyaltL]

@@XS-NRG Or, he thinks Vi will betray Jinx, just like she did before and so he hates her. Like he himself said in the show. No need to theorise over things stated quite clearly in the show.

[@XS-NRG]

@@LoyaltL You're missing the point Jinx is an adult. Silco does not have the right to go against what jinx wants simply because he "believes" it's in her best interest. It's one thing if he wasn't aware of what she wanted, but he knew from day one. It just wasn't what he wanted for her. He projected his trauma from Vander onto jinx and denied her the opportunity for potential healthy reconciliation. You don't get to violate your child's agency just because you "think" you're looking out for them. Far too many relationships between children and their parents have been permanently destroyed for that exact reason and if not for his last minute manipulation of her trauma and feelings in episode 7 he would've saw that first hand when she stabbed him. He even went so far as to do the one thing jinx never thought he would do to her, lie. Jinx basically said I want to see my sister for years and Silco's went cool cool, I get that buuuuuut since I've been trying to help you kill that part of yourself for years how about no. I'll just kill her instead and you'll surely thank me later. Like there's really no context where "I'm going to go behind your back and murder your sister for your own good even against your wishes" comes out looking like anything other than selfish and controlling. I don't doubt for a second he loved jinx but it was 100% unhealthy for both of them and did far more harm than good.

[@AlexanderForsman]

Silco is very honest person. He knows that what he is doing is shitty, but he also knows it's the only way to fight topside. And we see that it, so far, clearly improved the conditions of Zaun. See how badly the rest reacts to regular air from the mines that he worked in as a child. He is accustomed to it, which is why he is the only one that doesn't react to it. For the rest it's painful, even Sevika is wearing her protection.

[@EternalDensity]

He's honest but he also projects his beyrayal issues a lot, so he's honestly wrong.

[@AlexanderForsman]

@@EternalDensity true.

[@saiyasha848]

I don't know if you noticed, but when we saw the Mural, a new face was just painted there - the face of the Pinkhaired girl that Jinx shot in the back because she thought it was Vi. Ekko is very justified in not trusting her, He has seen her _murdering_ his people.

[@artboymoy]

Yeah, this hasn't been their first fight or encounter.

[@amptony3819]

Imo I think Mr Marcus is one of the most interesting secondary characters behind mel of course. Mostly because he is the most human. I find it interesting that you said that he didn't learn the errors of his ways when it's clear that after episode three he felt immense remorse for what his action has caused. And so to honor his mentor and partner decides to step into and become the mediator of peace between zaun and piltover. Of course the difference is he isn't working with a peacekeeper but a monster. He wants to do good, none of his actions after episode 3 is motivated by malice and the only thing holding him back is he doesn't want to not be there for his daughter. Most people put into his situation would not have the nerve to throw themselves and potentially their daughter under the bus like that. His death is a tragedy because he wasn't able to fully atone for what he does. And he died a seemingly pointless death just like his predecessor at the hands of a careless monster. How poetic.

[@tristinnelson4550]

This is the exact reason why I hate when people say that he is a jerk so much. Because I bet that those same people could not make the choice of a loved one life changing by having to sacrifice your self. I mean same thing with how Vi did nothing wrong when she still made that choice to leave Powder. The only person who did nothing wrong at this point is is Ekko.

[@skywalkerjohn8965]

​@tristinnelson4550 agree with you and op. He's literally got a gun holding at his head 24/7. The moment he said no is when his daughter life ended and he couldn't take that. He was already dead because of guilt, had it not for his daughter, he would have suicide few years earlier.

[@Rimaxo]

17:01 If you look again at that scene, Viktor knew how to defuse the bomb. He was just contemplating if he should blow everyone up, right then and there, to stop them from building the weapons, because he knew they might attack the under city with them. But he didn't, because as he said right after... "There's always a choice". God, what a well written show. It's amazing.

[@mustsnip537]

The thing with Marcus is he does regret his choices. He's regretted it since the first time he worked with silco. He just felt like he has no other choice to make. He was a bad person and made shitty choices and he deserved to be punished. But he did regret what he has been doing.

[@coolichkann50zeichenfurden95]

That moment when Ekko turns from his front up warrior-leader-grown-up-man-persona back to the boy he still is underneath. The boy that still believe he can save his childhood crush instead of ending things when he had that chance. Even when he early proclaimed that she is to far gone.

[@Rainoth_Rai]

12:50: I disagree. Yes, he wants power. Power is good and wanting power is not inherently a bad thing. It's what you do with power that defines what kind of person you are as well as HOW you get the power. To that point, Silco's already told his thoughts on it to Decard: "True power comes to those who will do anything to achieve it." That in itself is a flawed thought for most modern humans, as we abide by various moral norms and rulesets. Hypothetically, lets say there was nobody like Silco, who would go extreme in many ways to reach his goals. You would have people like Vander who've built up a friendly community still be unfairly opressed. Okay, so then you wait 10, 20, 50 years and nothing changes. What's the solution here? Hope the other side changes their ways? I believe Silco truly wants to make things fair by putting Zaun on the map as its own nation. He would probably be the sole ruler of it and that would ultimately result in what undercity is today as we saw it in episode 4-5-6 - only the strongest survive. I don't think he'd be a good ruler but I think he's a great revolutionary.

[@sirdromos2769]

this !

[@lockekappa500]

Except in the end even he proved that he couldnt even live up to his own standards. Only one person could. Jinx.

[@LoyaltL]

From what little we did see, I think he would've been an alright ruler. He already had plans to shelve away shimmer and prioritise Zaun's economy on shipping rights and trade through the Hexgates. That's a solid plan capitalising Zaun's geography.

[@edwardsummey8843]

There will be a second season that will conclude this story line. The mechanical firelights were in episode 4 (at the progress day celebration) and earlier in episode 7 in Jynx’s workshop.

[@patrikneperfekta7575]

Jinx was also working on them during the "Get Jinxed" scene in ep 4.

[@nickthompson6390]

Jinx vs Ekko, hand's down is my favorite. Something that I wonder about, in ep 6 when Vi tells Jinx she couldn't come back because she got arrested, Jinx says almost to no one "Marcus..." In my head canon, this was her making a note that he kept Vi away from her, so she was going to go after him at the earliest convenience.

[@hawke5311]

The time skip was roughly 6-7 years. The Zaun council that Silco threatened was the Chem-Barons. Shimmer, and the chemically based lights are examples of Chemtech (vs. Hextech in Piltover). Ekko is an inventor, rebel, and fighter. Exactly what Powder could have been if things had not gone horribly wrong. He's like the reflection of her, what could have been...

[@Mi_Z]

Hmm... I just had a discussion in another thread with someone complaining how nuance isn't picked up on ... how everyone goes with first impressions... good guys vs bad guys and so on ... methinks Stella has a bit of the 'good guys vs bad guys' syndrome. Before the show she stated she hopes the 'good guys' win. My first thought was, okay, who are the good guys? I mean there are some characters we may like better than others, but most of the main characters don't really fit so neatly in those boxes. She doesn't seem to get Marcus or Silco at all. It's like she views them as 'all-bad' ... all the time ... no matter what they do, regardless of their motivation or situation. And she still doesn't get why Silco does what he does. He wants a free Zaun -- and will do anything to achieve it. Well, nearly anything. A couple of her comments struck me as a bit odd: Jinx is the way she is because Silco didn't show her any compassion. Marcus just needs to 'talk it out' She's glad that Marcus is dead, but his death wasn't satisfying enough -- wants him to regret his actions. I mean have you watched his previous scenes? He's all regret.

[@chipstarshine8150]

It doesn’t come across as the type of regret she wants. Instead of regret over his choices it comes across as regret over the situation he’s in. That and the fact that he values the life of his daughter over the lives of everyone else who would benefit from him making the right choices.

[@masterofpuppets7586]

This! 👍

[@Mi_Z]

@@chipstarshine8150 He regrets what happened to Grayson and feels guilt over it. He felt responsible for Vi ... and saved her life. And yes, he did it in a completely incompetent manner, but that's sort of his style. After all that has happened, I think even Marcus has regrets over the choices he has made. Partially yes, due to the situation he is in, but it's not like he's guilt-free there. We've seen him show remorse over Grayson, and act in disgust with himself. I mean I guess he hasn't blown himself up in a fit of regret, making his daughter an orphan. Nor has he disobeyed Silco, putting his daughter's life in danger. But is this what she really wants?

[@chuckmanion1128]

The time skip is generally agreed upon to be about 7 years. Never confirmed within the show though. Signet on the seal of the letter is the same signet on Mel's ring. In other words, the letter is from her family. The little mechanical butterflies were Jinx's. You see them in her workshop in earlier scenes and the artwork on them is definitely her. On Marcus's death "It just wasn't very satisfying. I want him to regret his actions." Wow. Remind me never to get on your bad side. I get the feeling you make your enemies suffer... Have I mentioned how lovely your braids are... The group of "villians" is the Chembarons. I love your frustration. Its absolutely adorable. But that's part of what makes this show so addicting. The writing is good enough to get under your skill. I'm glad you're as invested as the rest of us.

[@ChipnChep]

it's not Mels sign, that's more t-shaped, it's the Hammer-symbol of house Tallis (spelling?), Jayce's family. it was shown a few times earlier when he was with his mom for example

[@Mi_Z]

I think this is the first reactor I have seen react to Marcus' death this way. Some are pleased, yes... many at least show sympathy towards his daughter... a handful understand the predicament he was in. But I haven't seen anyone want him to suffer even more. And it seems like half of his scenes show him regretting his actions. He keeps the 'blood' money so he can remember Grayson. He regretted that from the start. He is so trapped that he considers blowing himself up, his daughter pretty much has a gun pointed at her head... he's just a big bag of regret.

[@stellaa_rrose]

Lol “I make my enemies suffer” Generally speaking, in the real world, I don’t make enemies😂😂 I promise I’m not as vindictive as seem when it comes to Marcus.

[@twoolf01]

One of the creators of the show stated that the time jump is roughly 7-8 years.

[@pjpleiss]

According to an interview with the writers, the timeskip was something like 7 years.

[@VTsimpingSan]

I actually love that Silco scene at the assembly. Absolute power play. Also will you ever be reacting to the new Cyberpunk show? It’s a banger.

[@EternalDensity]

"I hope the good guys win." ah but who are the good guys and what does winning mean?

[@nickstockbridge3334]

I was perplexed by the exploding firelights as well, and it wasnt until i was rewatching this series some more. In the episode, Progress day. We see a mechanical fire light flying around. It would of been easy for jinx to recreate those, or capture a bunch, and adjust them to explode.

[@davidhudgin]

Marcus didn't deserve his full last words.

[@teradul2480]

"I wanna see the good guys win." Immediate shivers down the spine of someone that doesn't quite believe what she's saying...

[@EternalDensity]

Remember that Jayce was manipulated into ordering the blockade by Marcus, for Silco who wanted Vi and Cait contained.

[@AniMageNeBy]

One thing you're wrong in with Silco, is that he doesn't want freedom for Zaun. Of all the chembarons, he's actually the only one whom ACTUALLY wants that. One can argue that his goal don't justify the means, but the goal IS independence for Zaun.

[@Mi_Z]

That's what I find sort of odd by her reactions. At this point in the show, she should know what Silco's goal is. Yet she constantly thinks he lying or manipulating people -- nothing he does or says is what it appears to her. She's viewing Silco solely through the lens of being a villain ... I mean, the first episode of the show set that up... he's 'bad'. But she never got past that initial impression. If she wants to argue that the means doesn't justify potential freedom, or there was another way, that's valid. It's at least an opinion based on understanding the character and what is being shown to us. But she's offering up opinions based on a complete misunderstanding of the character's motivations.

[@n0bleonline222]

@@Mi_Z I agree Many reactors can't get rid of it in different series or movies just because they are used to good-bad series and movies. As soon as they start Episode 1, I think the show should be told and reminded in a gray area, not black and white. Otherwise, they miss the nuance of many characters in the series, they do not understand. This is very sad. You've reached the end of the series, but you can't get out of a certain lens.

[@Mi_Z]

@@n0bleonline222 Well, not so sure that can be achieved in a single episode... at least not always. As the first episodes of most shows are just laying groundwork, and it's up to the viewer to sort of figure out how it all fits together as it goes along. To throw out an example, Game of Thrones ... which if anyone hasn't seen yet, I'll be SPOILING here. ----- It starts off pretty generic actually. First episode or two and it's not unreasonable to put certain characters into mental boxes... okay, Lannisters = Bad. Starks = Good. King = Incompetent. Ned = Main hero and so on. But as the season goes along, and especially as the series goes along, all of those boxes fall apart. Hey, I'm rooting for Tyrion now, but isn't he a Lannister and aren't they the bad guys? Hmm... hey, the main hero who can't die, is already dead... oh no... And so on. And to get back to Arcane, I went into it knowing absolutely nothing about the show. And although the 1st episode was perfectly fine, it also felt like I knew where the characters and story would be going. I had seen so many of these archetypes before... plucky kids, check. Cliche villain, yep, there he is. Heroic father figure, yep. So the mental boxes were getting filled. However, by episode 2, the world was growing, some minor box shifts and new characters were introduced... and by episode 3, my expectations simply withered away. Boxes no longer worked, characters didn't neatly fit into bad or good. So by the end of act 1, they did break the black/white mold and start to become more gray-ish. So you are right in the sense it can be done early in a show, and I thought it was done pretty early here... by the end of the first act. But that's why I find it odd when we are at episode 7 and the basic motivations of some of main characters are still being overlooked. Although to Stella's credit, I do suspect that now, after she has seen the entire show, some of her views have changed. Or at least I hope they have.

[@fnglert]

One amazing, split-second detail that many reactors miss; when Jinx opens fire on Vi and Caitlyn on the bridge, they both react true-to-character: Vi tries to push Caitlyn away, Caitlyn tries to pull Vi in close to shield her. Vi being stronger, she wins, but that split second animation detail really shows how much care the animators put into every little moment making sense for the characters' personalities.

[@willhess28]

Outstanding reaction! As always, thanks for the content and keep the vibe immaculate ✌️

[@kaliwr1365]

Fun fact, base on Ekko's voice lines with Jinx he used to have crush on Jinx.

[@78konjo]

love the jinx braids! I believe its around 7ish years but they never officially said. When you ask if the good guys win I was like, who does stella view as "good guys". vi, caitlyn and viktor? ekko now but one thing I love about this show is how complex all the characters are and how easy it is to view what any one of them do as good or bad.

[@stellaa_rrose]

When I root for the “Good Guys” I wouldn’t say I have specific characters in mind, but I guess I just want the solution that best utilizes empathy and diplomacy. I know it’s unrealistic, so I suppose a more accurate way to phrase it would have been “I want everyone to be OKAY.”

[@th3voice]

About Jinx trying to kill Ekko - not really. She fought Ekko when he got between her and Vi, which was what Ekko was angling for in that moment. Ekko, meanwhile, in that moment, was trying to kill Jinx. And that's the second time in two episodes he and the Firelights have tried to do so... he and the Firelights had been following Vi and Caitlyn ever since they arrived in the Undercity. However, they didn't interfere or do anything but observe. Then they meet Jinx, and suddenly they mount a large-scale attack. They were attempting to assassinate Jinx. About Silco - he's manipulating Jinx, sure, after a fashion. But he is not lying to her, or attempting to manipulate her into accepting something he does not believe. He says things, and attempts to persuade her of things, he fully believes to be accurate and in her best interest. He is telling the truth that he didn't know Vi was alive. He is most certainly telling the truth that he doesn't believe meeting Vi or knowing she was alive will do her any good - after all, he doesn't have the healthiest respect for the bonds of family, once betrayed, and all he knows of Vi is a thug who beat her nose bloody and left her in a burning field of corpses. Then he takes her in and supports her, and she grows strong, self-reliant, and her genius blossoms... and finally, it culminates in her stealing something truly remarkably important and valuable. And wouldn't you know it, just like the deadbeat relatives of a recent lottery winner, here's Vi, being dragged around on a leash by one of the jackbooted thugs of Zaun's oppressors. He is supposed to welcome her in at that point? No father would. Your read on the chem barons confrontation is... strange. Finn is ranting about how he intends to abandon all hope of rebellion and improving the lot of Zaun in favour of just sitting at the top selling drugs and deepening the misery for everyone in perpetuity... and you think it's somehow a BAD thing that Silco doesn't share power with him? I have to admit, if I lived in Zaun and my choices were a drug baron revolutionary who wishes to achieve independence from the REMARKABLE oppression of Piltover... or a drug baron who wants to sit still under that oppression and add his own in addition... I'd choose the former every time and twice on the weekend. Silco breaks into that meeting DURING Finn's point-by-point presentation, in his own words, of how and why he would be worse for everyone but himself by every conceivable metric. As for Jinx being wrong in calling Vi a liar... why? Vi spent their entire meeting telling Jinx that she is the only priority in her universe, that there's nothing else that matters at all... yet she is demonstrating that Caitlyn is at least equally important, or likely more important, to her. It's not like it's a HEALTHY attitude from Jinx, but she's not WRONG, either. As for the notion of everyone just needing therapy - sure, pretty much every character could benefit from therapy, and none of them will get it, because the setting doesn't have therapists. Might as well argue they should eat the magical mental wellness cupcakes that spark joy and resurrect dead family members - it'd be NICE if they could do that, but they can't. And frankly... if there was a therapist available, Jinx isn't the first person I'd send to see them. Silco isn't, either.

[@Mi_Z]

Nice analysis, like usual. For your first point, I assumed the point of the attack (previous episode) was to retrieve Vi, not necessarily kill Jinx. I mean as a bonus it would have been fine, but it didn't seem to be their sole concern. As they leave Jinx behind ... if their main goal was to kill her, then why didn't they? As for the chem-baron scene... yeah, I never have seen a response like that before from any reactor. I'm simply going with the idea she's viewing pretty much anything Silco does in a negative light ... doesn't matter if it's logical under the circumstances... forget any motivations... it's still bad.

[@th3voice]

@@Mi_Z They followed Vi for quite a while. They saw her blundering around with the unarmed enforcer for a while. Then suddenly, when she encounters Jinx? Full attack. That's a hit. Ekko and the Firelights fight defensively and hit targets of opportunity. If all they wanted was Vi, they would have scooped her up before she gets somewhere she's trying to go to meet someone. Jinx is a priority target for them... she's killed their people before (though I feel that's pretty much par for the course when you attack another gang's operations repeatedly, that doesn't mean they have to be peachy keen on it), and they will not often FIND her when she's unprotected and in the open. Ekko might still have flinched at delivering the killing blow if he could get the upper hand, but I can't really see any reason for how he played that whole sequence other than "I wonder where Vi is goi... holy shit it's Jinx, alone, gather the boys, we're doing a drive-by".

[@Mi_Z]

@@th3voice All logical. But if I remember correctly, that fight scene ends with Jinx seemingly out of bullets with Ekko + another firelight standing directly across from her. If the sole purpose of the attack was to kill Jinx, wouldn't then have been the time? But instead they gather up Vi, and off they go. Zoom.

[@th3voice]

@@Mi_Z My read is, Ekko baits her out of beating batboy to death and they withdraw, because they (uniquely in the show) value their side's survival over outright victory.

[@Mi_Z]

@@th3voice I guess. Or they could have attacked 2 vs 1 -- which would also work to prevent batboy from being beaten upon. And she's out of ammo too, how often will they run across a chance like that? I don't know. Seems like here is their chance really if she's the bane of their existence and they specifically have been targeting her.

[@saiyasha848]

You don't get a clear response in the show, but behind the scenes said 7 Years. Powder was 11 at the start, Jinx is now 18. Ekko was 13, now 20 Vi was 15, now 22 Cait 16, now 23 Jayce was 24 now 31 Viktor 25 now 32 Mel 26 now 33

[@smileyhappyface5864]

There's no way that Viktor is older than Jayce, or that Ekko was 13 in act 1. More likely, Ekko was 10ish.

[@felixmichel3217]

I find Marcus one of the most interesting characters in the series, obviously his actions and interactions with the other characters are a nuisance, however, he is one of the most real characters in the series, and I think that is what bothers us so much. , knowing that there are many Marcuses in the world, and the saddest thing is that in my opinion Marcus's life was a torture for himself, since apart from his terrible mistake of cooperating with Silco, his life was like a bottomless swamp Sinking deeper and deeper no matter how hard he tries to get out, we saw Marcus wanting to commit suicide and end up with Silco, but in reality Marcus is a coward, but not only is he a coward, he also has a daughter that he refuses to leave alone, I can never say that Marcus is my favorite character, but from a build perspective he is one of the most fascinating to me. I also loved the message of his death, as much as you try to make up your bad actions as good (as it is to be disgustingly corrupt in order to protect your daughter), life may be so cruel that it does not even give you the opportunity to A few final words worthy.

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I feel like Silco may derisively call Ekko "boy savior" because of the work he's done to protect people in the undercity. It seems, and the way Jinx uses it seems like it's that kind of name.

[@aesdomain8363]

Ekko, despite being a side character, is the actual Hero in the series (for me, at least).

[@joshgreiner2599]

The time skip was 6-7 years, according to a tweet from one of the writers.

[@wemustdissent]

Catyln probably has the most honest intentions of all of them, probably Jayce being the second...but both of them are horribly naïve to a fault and entitled enough to think it is their job to fix it to the point where they end up if anything causing more harm than good.

[@mathies3598]

"Hoping the good guys win" Nobody's winning in arcane

[@ngcwiz1755]

Silco definitely wasn't lying. Not fully, part of the reason they were there was for the object and not Powder.

[@xanadu6784]

It's so easy and convenient to think that Silco is selfish and a liar. But outside of withholding the fact that he discovered Vi was still alive, where does he give any indication of lying? Or that he doesn't love Jinx, and just wants to control and manipulate her? And he is brutal to the Chem Lord's, but he is brutal to them because they care more about money then the people of Zaun. How much more brutal would they be if Silco doesn't reel them in? Do we assume Silco must be the bad guy because he stood opposed to Vander? The guy who cut a deal with the enforcers and keeps a revolution at bay to the delight of the oppressive leaders of Piltover, and then proceeded to try to personally murder him? Should Silco have trusted Vander more after that? There are plenty of criticisms to aim at Silco. He is not a hero. But he is a mostly honest guy trying to do right by his adopted daughter, who hates the exploitation of the underclass, risks his life to fight against it, and his most brutal actions are heavilly influenced by his the calculus of war and his own Trauma. What did Silco do that was worse then the Council? I mean...child labor for the purpose of building a drug empire, can't ignore that. But he just filled the undercities slums. Piltover built the slums in the first place.

[@Mi_Z]

Agreed. And I'm not so sure we can even say the child labor was necessarily 100% bad. We don't have enough information. If the alternative was working in the mines or starving in the streets, a factory job might look comfy in comparison. Silco isn't a nice guy .... but he can't be a nice guy and hope to create a free nation -- and whatever one thinks of his methods, his goal is a noble one. And I found her reaction to the chem-barons sort of amusing. I think she is the first reactor I've seen who thought Silco was being too cruel to them. Most consider it a decent show of power... some think he's too easy on them, and he should have had them all murdered. But nope, "How awful." It's an example of viewing a character one deems as a villain early on, through that lens throughout the entire show. Doesn't matter what his motivations or goals are ... doesn't matter if he shows traits typically limited to 'good' characters. He's just 'bad'... always.

[@stellaa_rrose]

Silco is definitely not THE bad guy. However I don’t think any of his fans can convince me that he is a just or ethical man. The cause absolutely does not justify the means (in my opinion, obviously we’re all entitled to feel how we feel about him). I guess the way I see it, he is creating a SECOND impoverished undercity, in the form of the addicts and homeless who are being neglected. Sure, he may one day liberate the people of Zaun who agree with his methods, but for those who don’t, such as the firelights, his methods simply create more division, division which, were he successful in his goals, would be likely to continue the chain of violence that Zaun has been a victim of.

[@Mi_Z]

@@stellaa_rrose Thing is, I do think the ends justifies the means. As the alternative is just decades or more of status quo -- Piltover as an occupying force stomping on the undercity. It's a worthwhile gamble. Whether Silco is just or ethical is really besides the point. A just and kind revolutionary isn't going to work. But it is a good recipe for a dead revolutionary. And this is probably a better discussion for ep 9, but for argument's sake, let's say his plan actually works -- Piltover grants them independence. Okay, what is next? Shimmer production stopped (or at least curtailed). Drug problem eventually would be resolved. But they still have a problem of resources... homeless, poor and so on. But now Zaun has control of not only their own resources, but access to trade routes. So those mines that were mentioned... well, that's all Zaun's now. We aren't given enough information to know to what extent Piltover was exploiting them, but it's safe to assume some of those resources/wealth would now be available to Zaun to use as they wish. So yes, there is a group of poor and homeless... which isn't a whole lot different than when Vander was in charge. But give them food, jobs and money and they won't care anymore what 'means' were used to give them their freedom. As for the firelights, what are they going to do when the condition of the undercity improves? Fight against the populace because they don't like how Silco gained their freedom? Silco isn't in this to just be a crime boss and garner wealth for himself. It's not like his goal is an undercity that is a crime-ridden hellhole forever. The idea is to turn it into a real nation. You may not like how he went about it, but revolution isn't pretty. Not sure if you have read it, but there was a well-written analysis in your previous video by th3voice in regard to Silco. Worth reading.

[@n0bleonline222]

@@Mi_Z ++ I agree

[@ashenfang]

We... we as viewers like to put our own prejudices on things. We don't like to trust, which is understandably, but in this show, more often than not people are straight shooters, be is Sevika, be it Silco.. listen to what they say.. it's what they mean. A lot of people thought Sevika was a traitor to Vander, but in truth, she said straight out where she stood, she was for the revolution when Vander backed out. Silco is no different, he had a few very important speeches. When he was talking to Deckard about Power, when he was talking To Vander.. when he was talking to then Chembarons. It's not about him. It's about pulling up the Undercity from the shadow of Piltover and all that comes with it. You want him to die regretting his actions? Does e3veryone forget the moment where Marcus envisioned pulling the pin and killing himself and Silco to end it all, to end all the corruption between the two. Marcus isn't perfect, he was a young officer trying to do what was expected of him, the Councel itself told him to do whatever it took to bring those responsible to justice. Marcus wasn't perfect, yes he was flawed, but ultimately he got into a situation that was over his head.. I don't think most give him the fair share of the character he was.

[@tristinnelson4550]

I hate when people say that he is a jerk or a bad character so much do to how he is the most human people in this show because he is trapped in a prison of his own creation and in order to be free he must sacrifice himself or some one he loves. I also hate when people say it because I bet that those same people could not make the choice of a loved one life or by having to sacrifice your self. I mean same thing with how Vi is innocent and did nothing wrong but she still made that choice to leave Powder which caused all these event to unfold. The only person who did nothing wrong at this point is is Ekko.

[@oscarecaldre8415]

Silco's goal is the formation of the nation of Zaun. An independent and separate nation from Piltover. He's a revolutionary and not just a criminal mastermind

[@alarichrul6639]

At the first watch, I was suspicious about Silco also, even though I mostly support his ways of fighting against the topside, except, episode 9 - really bad negotiations for the Undercity, totally unacceptable. But thinking that Silco wants power for himself is completely wrong. He even gave power and his money to others, such as chembarons, his council members. But now, since they become rich they prefer status quo and ready to go against Silco, using, basically, resources he gave to them. Just traitors. But, we know, Silco is really forgiving person. He forgave Vander, for trying to kill him, he forgave these chembarons as well.

[@sirdromos2769]

love the hair ! and yes the season 2 is confirmed

[@DarkDragonCdn]

So when you said you did not want to see enyone shot, bad news you did Echo by Marcus. And on the subject of Marcus he just wanted his daughter to know he loved her. Loved you reaction. So you STAY SAFE and have a great day.

[@GhostEmblem]

When you said a lot of those people cant be trusted in the same episode that Jayce later says it I was wondering if you would relize what you did but no, you didnt realize.

[@saiyasha848]

I am always in debate over Sevikas Motives here: Did she tell Silco not too look for Jinx because she actually knew exactly that? That she would come on her own, and forcing it would just lead to trouble? Or was she trying to drive a wedge between them because she believes Jinx to be a liability? She _looks_ genuine, but I think Sevika is a better actress then poeple think. She isn't all brawn, and she isn't beyond a little deception. But to this day, I am not sure about the answer.

[@smileyhappyface5864]

It's definitely both, in a way. I don't think "she'll come when she's ready" is supposed to drive a wedge between them, but she also wants to have a break from dealing with Jinx after she got tied up in episode 6. She means what she's saying about Jinx coming back, but the only reason she says it out loud is because she wants Silco to focus on literally anything else, and I think Silco knows that.

[@OlmanWillo]

Silco absolutely wants to liberate Zaun from the control and exploitation of Piltover. That being said he also believes in the whole ends justifies the means philosophy and thus doesn't care about the damage caused in getting to that goal... and on top of that he's drunk on power. I do feel like deep down his intentions and goals are for the betterment of Zaun but his flaws reallllly show.

[@mlivraghi]

I don't think that Jinx main purpose was to kill Ekko, she just wanna kill herself. She saw Vi left her again. When she lost fighr with Ekko, she became vulnearable, u can see how much she is in pain, not physically, but in emotional pain. She don't wanna to be saved by Ekko. She know that she is to far gone, she is aware of who she is and what she have done. Ep.6, "I changed", she feel shame while she talk to Vi. She don't want to been saved and she is in too much pain...kill her self, for her, is the only way to stop been in pain. Dead is a relief for her

[@keyronkathrynekathrynkeyron]

Remember Silco can hurt everyone even his councilor... But jinx only person can hurt silco

[@artboymoy]

Love Mel. Let's see what you think of her over the next couple episodes.

[@mjeid4835]

Marcus isnt a bad guy. He made a deal with the devil and was trapped under Silcos thumb since that first deal. I think you need to look deeper into his motivations. Once he had a daughter everything he did was to keep her safe and stay her parent.

[@cubic_slate9462]

0:50 "Nobody win" 🙂

[@Hohum37]

I don't think even Marcus thought he was doing the right thing since Grayson died. He's just too weak to fix it.

[@stellaa_rrose]

Yeah, this I absolutely agree with 100%. I definitely frustrated some folks by not liking him😂

[@SIDLOTF]

Homie killin me a bit talking and looking at the camera so much while stuff is happening on screen

[@masterofpuppets7586]

Take a closer look at Jinx' last picture after the grenade blew up. Her throat especially. There you'll find "Vi" written by dirt and second time by her clothing. A last silent cry for her sister, just like the blue smoke tattoos representing the flare as a permanent cry for help? ARCANE: MASTERPIECE!

[@derekmarshman6154]

Love this post! I'm a fan of that blue smoke theory, but I'm afraid given what the finished tattoo is, I don't think it's correct. I would say more, but I can't without spoilers.

[@craolla8307]

eres JINX reaccionando a Arcane? OMG!

[@rod4309]

Silco wasn't lying Cait was there for the gem, and she only brought Vi along to help her. And silco really believes that everyone betrays them. so how could he think that Vi was there for powder.

[@wemustdissent]

Which ones are the "good ones"?

[@marcinsikocinski4661]

I don't think Silco is lying. He's perception of reality is just warped by trauma of being betrayed. Also he is manipulative and probably assumes everybody around him is also trying to manipulate him. Everyone except Jinx.

[@lc8155]

Super Duper!

[@babette5918]

In the "Bridging the rift" series (5 web-isodes on the making of Arcane) they touch on how important it is to the creators that the audience be surprised to find out that Ekko is the leader of the firelights, and to their credit 80% of viewers (based on watching dozens of reaction videos) have completely forgotten about Ekko when he is revealed. As nice as that surprise is, I feel that they lost a lot in the story telling in order to achieve it. They removed some scenes that would have laid better groundwork for that fight in order to preserve the surprise. Hopefully we will get some flashbacks to Jinx/Ekko interactions during the time skip in Season 2. We think that Ekko tried and failed to bring Jinx into his community during the 6-7 year time skip... which would make sense as to why she calls him "The boy Saviour".

[@wemustdissent]

Silco is a great character in part because he is a bad guy and he does manipulate to get his way, but he is has a code and part of that is loyalty and part of that is not lying...just manipulating. "Vi and the Enforcer are here for the crystal, not for you". Thats true. Vi AND the Enforcer are in the lanes solely because of the need to retrieve the crystal, if it wasn't for that Vi would still be in prison and thus would not be there at all. He was careful to group them together. Vi herself is there to find her sister, but Vi and the Enforcer are there for the crystal. He always leaves himself a way of explaining it...every time. His thing is calculated manipulation, not just straight lying.

[@stellaa_rrose]

In this specific instance you can definitely make the case that it wasn’t REALLY a lie because *loopholes*, however I believe over time, Silco has learned to utilize dishonesty to get what he wants, even if it’s in the form of manipulation. He’s a genius, but he really is tragically messed up, and that’s part of the fascination I think so many people have with his character.

[@wemustdissent]

@@stellaa_rrose oh yeah he is dishonest, he knows he is saying things with the aim to get the person to do what he wants them to do to achieve his goals not necessarily what is best for that person. Definitely not a good guy. I just thought the writers in the show did a good job of making him not so black and white "bad" that he just straight up lies. Its more nuanced than that and thats why I feel he is a much better more compelling character than he could have been with lazy writing.

[@stellaa_rrose]

@@wemustdissent 100%. Don’t believe for a second that I don’t think he’s an incredibly written character!

[@roba5098]

...seem like she cared more about those villains dying than the 2 brothers that actually died...

[@keyronkathrynekathrynkeyron]

Silco immune to the toxic air of zaun 😁 powe move

[@silver9wolf6]

Really enjoying your analysis! Looking forward to your thoughts on the next two episodes! 😁

[@slaaneshhedonite7068]

Marcus is the real villain

[@ookook1331]

over the course of the entire anime, maybe you didn't pick up on it, but he constantly regretted his actions.

[@Hohum37]

Your Jinx braids are cool, but I think you've got more of a Caitlyn energy.

[@beastmonger4821]

actually... xD Ekko have different hairstyle in game but nevemind xD

[@caseywilson15]

Time skip was around 7 years

[@Mi_Z]

Anyone else catch Stella sort of mimicking Jayce's 'undercity is dangerous' early in the video -- When Jayce + Mel are talking about hextech for the masses. 6:22 "That's the word that stresses me out, the masses.... But you can't...A lot of these people cant be trusted." And then later during the bridge scene, she's condemning Jayce for saying pretty much the same thing she did.

[@stellaa_rrose]

Hey, as a clarification: I see where you’re coming from and you definitely make an interesting and accurate point, however my response to “bringing hextech to the masses” had nothing to do with my beliefs about either Zaun, or Piltover, but rather my beliefs about human corruption in general. I would never in my life opt for such an incredible dangerous power to be easily accessible to anyone. Harnessing Hextech for economic advancement is one thing, but we’ve already seen how much destruction can be caused. The word “masses” particularly worried me, because that could be anyone. Good intentions, bad intentions. It’s very hard to differentiate when the focus is just on “bringing it to the masses”. I found Jayce’s comment upsetting because it was particularly directed at the citizens of Zaun, and specifically painted them as dangerous/violent.

[@Mi_Z]

@@stellaa_rrose Well, since the tools created (or most of them) were primarily for Zaun (mining), it did come across like you were referring to the undercity. Viktor pretty much stressed the idea was to make things better for those living in the undercity, as well. That was their focus. It's not like a rich Piltover citizen has a need for mining gloves so he can go down and work in the mines. I realize that may not have been your intention, but in the context of the scene, it did feel very much like you were referring to the undercity specifically.

[@stellaa_rrose]

@@Mi_Z Nope, I didn’t interpret the context of Mel using “masses” to mean “the masses of ZAUN”. I saw it more as a general statement!

[@Mi_Z]

@@stellaa_rrose Okay, apologies if I misread you... just saying how it seemingly came across. I know a couple of other posters mentioned similar thoughts as I did, so it wasn't just me. It was probably just your phrasing -- "These people" -- sounds a bit like you are 'othering' a group there.

[@stellaa_rrose]

@@Mi_Z Yeah it definitely wasn’t just you, and no apology necessary. Reacting is hard (as I am quickly learning) and a lot of what I say gets very quickly misconstrued! I try to clarify in the comments, but I also understand not everyone is going to agree with what I have to say. Just know that I do think a lot about the media I consume, and my opinions change greatly, especially after WEEKS of thinking about the show. I know the Arcane fandom is very passionate, but there’s also some hostility towards new viewers, and I appreciate when you guys, gals, and pals take the time to talk with me in the comments and clear things up:) Have an awesome rest of your day and thank you for your feedback!

[@LittleMan27]

Ekko hates everyone. He hates Silco & Sevika, can’t trust Jinx or Vi, and hates topside. He comes in on “Everybody wants to be my enemy.”

[@crimson6666]

Jinx has killed over 10 people on screen never mind off screen

[@Arty_McParty]

12:40 -You right about they all bad guys but i think Silco isn't all that bad as people might think... if you pay attention how he treats Jinx -And I don't think his lying to them -And I don't think he wants power... HE NEEDS POWER to make Nation of Zaun , he can't get it by being weak... You know there is the saying , sometimes to do good you need to get dirty... So for Zaun he will do anything to make thier place a better place . Let me give you this analogy. -If you are stuck in mud/swamp in a car... for you to get the car out of it you have to get out and get your feet dirty... a lot of people don't see what his actually trying to achive his using gangsters and other "Manipulators" on his side to win the war! HE can't do it ALONE. I think his motives are selfless he trying to get people out of this poor state and toxic environment at all cost... He does not want to sit back like Vender did and just have people suffer he wants to acct , and to do that he has to get dirty... He been betrayed , so his just like Jynx 14:20 - You see how he din't do anything to jinx , he knows how she is,,,, and the reason he lied is because he cares about her and VI is the only person that can take her away from him... Think about it , he raised her it's like his daughter , The only threat is VI , and he already lost Vender (Got backstabbed) Lying to her is a selfish lie , that dosent always mean his a bad person... he just loves her. Majority people lie , sometimes for good sometimes for bad and sometimes just to lie... Dosen't make them bad Lying can be a tool that you can use for good or for bad... That's how we trap animals we lie to them. Lying can be good as well. White lies usually benefit the person listening. For example, if your neighbor is dying of cancer, rather than frighten your young son with his impending death, it's okay to say he's not feeling well right now. This is an example of prosocial lying and reflects empathy and compassion

[@Belthazar1113]

That wasn't Jinx trying to kill Ekko... That was Powder trying to kill Jinx because Ekko reminded her of who she used to be.

[@AmosTrask32]

At 6:23 you say "A lot of these people can't be trusted." I mean no disrespect at all, but this is an AMAZING example of how someone's subconscious biases conflict with their conscious values. It is clear you think that "othering" people is wrong, but that doesn't stop you from feeling fear at the thought of "dangerous people" getting their hands on hextech. This is a beautiful compliment to Arcane, the fact that it shows both sides of this world so thoroughly that we not only love these people's virtues, but we even start to internalize their flaws, their prejudice. Real talk, fighting prejudice isn't just saying the right words, it's thinking the right thoughts, and those is MUCH harder to change.

[@Mi_Z]

I noticed that as well. First time I heard it, I had to pause and rewind and listen again.... thinking, did she really just say that? It's also somewhat amusing then when later in the show at the bridge, she's chastising Jayce for his little "They are dangerous" scene with Viktor. Yet she pretty much said the same exact thing herself earlier in the video. As you say, it felt like a real-time example of someone internalizing the same prejudice as characters in the show.

[@dairallan]

Am really enjoying there reactions but I gotta say, you did a "those people" in the early part of the reaction without realising it. Which added a certain irony to the later comments on how bad Othering can be. One of the biggest issues is that people often dont realise when they do it.

[@lenasilva9169]

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[@renascienza.bazarclub]

Jinx can't become a Silco. He have an agenda to fullfil to be complete, she will never have. And isn't true that Jinx doesn't care about anyone. If you observe carefully, she only kill two kinds of people: 1. who fight against her, keeping her from what she want or need, threatening her life or safety. 2. Enforcers. To her, they are not people but pigs to slaughter. These uniforms and masks murdered her parents and ruined her childhood. That's because she is so troubled to attack Caitlin: she is an enforcer, but her sister clearly love her. She is family or foe? In that episode, Jinx managed to kill every enforcer available, singing the same song her sister forced her to sing years ago to avoid to see the slaughter. On the same bridge. She had her vengeance, full circle. But a thing that Jinx never did, was murder innocent people that wasn't a treat. Jinx also had a lot of chances to kill Sevika, but as she never actually faced her, Jinx spared the woman. She is crazy but have a code. Silco, otherwise, never cares about to kill or ruin other people. Everyone is expendable but he and Jinx.

[@ab7483]

You haven't really seen any situation where Silco isn't doing his best for an independent Zion. You might not agree with his methods but it was the path he chose to follow and so far he hasn't done anything that moves away from an independent Zion. And the scenes with Marcus do show his regret in earlier episodes. What else is he supposed to do? He dug a hole and this is the classic blackmail. He has done a lot of bad, if thats revealed he is doomed. He also has a daughter to lose. Not saying he is a good person but in his current situation it definitely isn't weird to prioritize the life of yourself and family over the lives of strangers.

[@brians2901]

Don't think for a moment that Silco doesn't love Jynx. In fact, Jynx is probably the only one he has ever loved and trusted with every fiber of his being. He would do whatever it takes to keep Jynx in his life, even lying to her face about Vi's intensions in the lanes. Though he is manipulating Jynx into doing his dirty work. Is the idea really any different than a parent bribing their child with an allowance to do chores? Jynx, free Zaun by making a weapon ... (insert child's name) here's 5 dollars by taking out the garbage.

[@mikeritter7207]

Silco don't want power for power's sake or for being accepted. Consciously he's fighting for case he think Vander betrayed. Subconsciusly he wants revenge. "We will show them. We will show them all".

[@jman92091]

You real big on this "Talking" thing... IRL it's rare Talking works out the way you want it to. Silco is a BOSS. Nothing left to be said there

[@carbuneskinny5797]

U think Silco is lying ? u think Silco just wants power ?? and also .. u think Marcus didnt know he was in the wrong ?? damn .. interesting ..

[@marcopadilla3840]

the french seriers is another level is amazing 🥰

[@eduardopatraca3272]

What makes Ekko remembering Power as such a happy an innocent girl on the bridge hits harder as WE, as the audience, know that she wasn't actually like that as a kid/pre-explosion in general, that's just how she was around the only person who ever unconditionally accepted her.

[@oscarecaldre8415]

Silco's goal is the formation of the nation of Zaun. An independent and separate nation from Piltover. He's a revolutionary and not just a criminal mastermind

[@derekmarshman6154]

But don't forget that he is both