Reacting to GLORY (1989) | Movie Reaction

[@claymccoy]

Colonel Shaw was buried with the rest of the soldiers by the South as an insult. When it was offered to have Shaw's body moved to Boston for burial when Shaw's parents visited Fort Wagner after the war, his father refused stating "We would not have his body removed from where it lies, surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers. We can imagine no holier place than that in which he lies, among his brave and devoted followers, nor wish for him better company. What a bodyguard he has!"

[@russcarvertruthjedi259]

100% correct.

[@xKagryx]

Wrecks me every time, and how true.

[@chazvasquez2901]

Love it

[@johny7388]

“Insult” was truly a consideration. But immediate and efficient burial was a bigger one. The humidity, the beach environment..The smell and rapid decomposition made holding the fort untenable in the short to medium term. True, Wagner was never taken, but it couldn’t be held for very long either. Special consideration towards the individual dead was impossible, even if desired.

[@stankinsteinfrankfurter9005]

Hero!!!!

[@jimandnicki]

I would recommend you watch the documentary The Civil War by Ken Burns. It’s ten parts, but probably the best at explaining the reasons for this war. It’s so good.

[@dc9664]

That would make for good reaction videos

[@RichKohli2]

As a beginners guide, The Civil War series is a good start. For those of us that are really into the Civil War understand the limitations and inaccuracies of the series. There are many debates in regards to the Civil War, too many to name and get into. But watching the series is a good start for a complete novice.

[@BaccarWozat]

For the British, there was only one civil war, and it was two centuries earlier. Also they outlawed slavery before the US did.

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

It's a fabulous documentary for sure. I still have it on VHS somewhere..

[@dan_hitchman007]

​@@BaccarWozatBut the bigotry remained.

[@kevincaulder96]

I must say as a fan of your channel and black man in the state of Kentucky that your reaction gives me hope that others like yourself give me hope that you see people as people regardless of skin color. Having grown up in a military family, I was exposed to many different people from many places in our travels. I have personally benefited from friendships and bigotry from both sides of the cultural, ethnic religious, and ridiculous ideas that separate people and make them feel less than human. But I was also very lucky to form longstanding friendships with people who did not take me at face value and invested time in me as a person. And I am grateful for their time and effort. Best Reaction Ever, Dawn Marie. Keep going

[@506thparatrooper]

Honored to serve in the U.S. Army with great men like yourself, from every culture, ethnic, and religious group of people. Having traveled the world and realizing there are over 27 million people in slavery today, National Geographic September 2003, then all the slaves captured from Africa over four centuries, for all America's faults past or present, it is a great place for free people to strive for their best lives.

[@AndrewGivens]

Yes! What a great comment; it's so encouraging. As a white English guy, who grew up as the Cold War ended, I was privileged to live in a society where hate was being rejected. To see the rise of racism again (along with Islamophobia) during the Noughties was devastating to my sense of justice. When I read your comment, I can see that actually, perhaps we *are* all still worth it.

[@StubbyLegz]

The U.S. Civil War is such a complex topic. I highly recommend watching “The American Civil War - Oversimplified “ (would love to see your reaction!). It’s animated and entertaining, and a great introduction to the topic.

[@hazi5961]

All of the actors in this movie really did a fantastic job. But Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington were out of this world. Some top-notch performances from the both of them.

[@jonathanhill4366]

Don't sell Andre Braugher short (apologies if I spelled it wrong). He was soo good.

[@Redplant99]

Denzel won the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for this role.

[@ididthisonpulpous6526]

Denzel stands out in the whipping scene where he communicates such a vast amount just with his expression and tears. One of his most magificent roles imo.

[@rickcrane9883]

Howdy Dawn Marie. As a former American History instructor, I am glad you are getting your schooling through these movies. Never stop learning.

[@artbagley1406]

Learning actual history via Hollywood (and elsewhere) is still a crap-shoot. The FILMMAKERS VERY OFTEN GET THINGS WRONG. There's still a need to read authoritative secondary (newspaper and magazine articles mostly) and primary sources (diaries, letters, official records, photographs, and more) to know the facts. Movies can twist facts to make good drama.

[@msmilder25]

Gettysburg (1993) a three part mini-series, that was later re-edited as a long-run film, is a tremendous illustration of the Civil War experience you are looking for. You'll get a much better idea of what was happening on both sides of the battlefield in that film.

[@christophersmith8316]

It was released first as a long run film, I was there on opening night and a good chunk of the audience were reenactors who were in the film.

[@mikerhodes8454]

My dad served in the U.S. Marines and he says out of all the war movies he's seen, this has the best scene in any of them. When they are on the beach about to storm the fort and Cp/ Shaw blows the sand out of his pistol, my dad says that best shows the accuracy of fighting, little things like that that nobody thinks of showing.

[@stevenmotchan2048]

I agree and that reminds me of a scene in the movie Officer and a Gentleman, after the class graduates there is a short scene of celebration and a few seconds of the camera on Richard Gear that nobody seems to notice but it reminds me of my graduation from boot camp and exactly how I felt.

[@CherylHughes-ts9jz]

It occurred to me that the sand in their eyes would have been horrific ‼️

[@top_gallant]

It finally dawned on Robert that when Wesley was saying "As you wish" he was really saying I love you.

[@DomR1997]

Yo stfu lmao I needed this laugh, thank you

[@charlize1253]

That so many of the men died was part of why it's so famous. Slaves in the south were uneducated, considered less than human, forced to work like animals, and a lot of people thought they would be too cowardly to fight in combat and would all run away. The fact that they fought bravely until the bitter end changed a lot of minds.

[@mikerodgers7620]

Black slaves were considered more than Irish men and Indian people.

[@charlesd3970]

​@@mikerodgers7620STOP LYING!!! 😂

[@haywoodsmith2822]

​@@charlesd3970 What, the truth offends your Aryan evangelical misogynist, national socialist right-wing, ethnic supremacist, domestic terrorist sensibilities? The Irish and Italians could pass for Aryan much easier. Fact.

[@jessecortez9449]

​@@charlesd3970it's not a lie. If you think it's a lie than your time in government schools and Hollywood movies have reduced your thinking of the past to a cartoonishly simple level.

[@charlesd3970]

@@jessecortez9449 post a creditable link of black people as collective owning Irish and Native American slaves. I bet I can post Irish being overseers and slave owners and Native Americans also.

[@magicbrownie1357]

If you think Lincoln is "cool AF" then watch Steven Spielberg's: "Lincoln," starring Daniel Day Lewis in an Oscar winning performance. Great film.

[@ronbo11]

The book on which the film is based, "Team of Rivals" by Doris Kearns Goodwin, is a wonderful historical investigation of the times and personages that led to the Emancipation Proclamation.

[@grahamtravers4522]

@@ronbo11 The Emancipation Proclamation was a cynical, opportunistic political ploy by Lincoln to undermine the Confederacy's economic base of production. In typical politician fashion, he acted diametrically opposite to his previous statements that the war was NOT about abolishing slavery. Unfortunately, on his death he was beatified as one who reputedly did no wrong. In fact, he was as sharp and devious a politician as any around today.

[@TSIRKLAND]

"Four score and seven years ago, our forefathers brought forth on this continent* a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal." That's the opening sentence of President Lincoln's famous "Gettysburg Address." Many people today are slightly confused by the first six words: "Four score and seven years ago." We all know what "seven years ago" means, but the "four score" part confuses many. It means 80. "Four score and seven" means "eighty seven." A score is twenty of something: like a dozen is twelve, a score is twenty. When you go to a donut shop and order "two dozen" donuts, you're ordering 24 donuts. When Lincoln said "Four score and seven years ago," he meant four times twenty, plus seven: 87 years ago. It was the thing to do at the time, though we've mostly stopped counting in that way, which makes it sound weird, now. The point was that from the founding of The United States of America in 1776, 87 years later, in 1863, there was this great Civil War happening, that threatened to tear that nation apart. As of now in 2023, it's been another 160 years since that speech. Eight score years. There remain people who seem to be confused about the end of that opening sentence- the bit of Lincon's speech that quoted directly from our Declaration of Independence: "all men are created equal." The word "men" meaning more broadly "humans"- "all humans are created equal." Many even still today don't seem to recognize that fact and act accordingly, which is why there are still injustices- based on race, gender, sex, religion, sexuality, economy, etc, etc. We have made many great strides over the decades, to be sure. But the road remains long, and we have to keep marching it, towards those ideals, until all humans are truly treated as the equal creations they are, until "Liberty and Justice for ALL" are not simply words repeated by rote, but reality in the day to day lived lives of ALL people. Keep on working; hopefully we'll get there before another eight score years have passed. * (There is also self-reflection to be done, concerning what "this continent" meant- how those forefathers treated the people who were already ON this continent, and how those forefathers brought more people to this 'new' continent from yet a different continent, against their will. Lots happened that did not reflect the ideals of human equality; we have a LOT of work to do, looking back as well as forward.)

[@brandonangstman]

Dawn just hearing your utter disgust and confusion over racism and prejudice makes me love you even more. You are an angel of kindness.

[@mikerodgers7620]

She doesn't know the history of Irish and Black people in U.S. and how Irish hated Black people.

[@brandonangstman]

@@mikerodgers7620 that is such B.S the irish didn't hate the black community, from almost the founding of the country up until about the late 1930s the irish and black communities lived side by side on the social ladder, in most parts of the country the irish where treated with only slightly less disdain than members of the Black community. At worst it can be said the Irish competed with Black people for social advancement in a less than friendly manner or that certain members of the Irish communities thought themselves better than Blacks but in most cases the two groups managed to have a tense but reasonably amicable relationship in most of the country barring southern states where Irish immigrants may have taken on prejudices in an effort to win acceptance from southerners.

[@mikerodgers7620]

Boy you don't know history. Five Points New York City, Irish thugs hanged Blacks at will. during protests against Civil War. Boston, White ethnic Irish called Blacks names and attacked them during busing laws in the 1970's. Man you just don't know. Irish HATED Blacks.Even my grandparents told me stories.@@brandonangstman

[@mikerodgers7620]

I know that. I know about the I.R.A.

[@brandonangstman]

@@mikerodgers7620 which one? There have been dozens of paramilitary group who have used the I.R.A. title, each with varying views and opinions, and also what does the I.R.A. have to do with your slanderous claim that the Irish hated the Blacks? Please either explain your viewpoint or please remove the comment because as a descendent of Irish immigrants and and an amateur researcher of the history of the Irish immigrant impact in the United States I find it vulgar and factually flawed. Especially since the Irish where loudly against slavery since before the United States was even an idea.

[@MattKeller]

"Surely by now everyone realizes they're all the same...they're all human" it's almost 2024 and sadly an alarming amount of people are still struggling to understand that. Incredibly sad, isn't it?

[@tehawesomeface1337]

Saw this in a theater. Went to the washroom and cried in one of the cubicles for about 5 minutes. After I was done crying, I went back to watch it again. I have lost count on how many times I have seen this film. I have cried everytime. When Denzel Washington’s tear flowed down while being whipped, when Mathew Broderick released his horse on the beach knowing he was going to die, when Denzel and Matthew were buried together…I cry everytime!

[@jamesgreenhow108]

I Can't make it past "Giv'em Hell 54th" 😭😭😭

[@greggross8856]

The healed whip scars on Denzel Washington’s back in the flogging scene were based on a photograph of an actual slave. If you do a Google search, you can find it.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

The “Give em hell, 54th” is where I lose it. Every time.

[@greggross8856]

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Yep

[@josephstimpfl4594]

To this point, at the end of the film Shaw is buried with his men. It is ment to be an insult. Officers bodies were often returned. It is a particular insult to bury a white man with "coloreds." But his father said it was an honor. There is a memorial to Shaw and his regiment in Boston

[@haywoodsmith2822]

The insult lies in referring to people of color as "colored". As if, people of color actually chose to be subjugated objects of Aryan contempt.

[@zedwpd]

He was using the term from the time by placing them in parentheses. And the "people of color" term is a misnomer since white is also a color. @@haywoodsmith2822

[@kirkdarling4120]

@@haywoodsmith2822 He put "colored" in quotes. He's indicating that he's quoting the words of the time. And, btw, "people of color" is a term originally invented by whites as yet another way to discriminate against blacks. There's nothing better about it than "colored" or "Negro."

[@gibbletronic5139]

And I will never forgive Antifa for desecrating that monument.

[@TheAardvark211]

You should watch the movie “Lincoln” starring Daniel Day-Lewis. It is an excellent movie and you will definitely get to see Lincoln like you requested.

[@brettmuir5679]

I was thinkin da same thing zactly!!!

[@dizzeeb33]

Great movie

[@billparrish4385]

If you want to react to a really top-quality movie about Lincoln, you should check out _Lincoln (2012)!_ Daniel Day-Lewis is inspired in the title role. I had to chuckle a bit in your outro, talking about Lincoln having a deep voice. Historians and observers of the period spoke of his voice as being rather high, even querulous when he'd speak loudly delivering a speech. Lewis captures this, as everything, perfectly.

[@aresee8208]

Probably most, by far, of what you have ever heard about transatlantic slavery is about slavery in the US. Be aware, however, that fewer than 10% of all slaves transported to the New World were bound for what became the United States. By far, most were taken to European colonies in the Caribbean Sea and South America, especially Brazil.

[@darrylw5851]

As @aresee8208 said slaves were transported many places and as a small example of this my fathers family is from the American south while my mother's is from Jamaica and Panama. It was a huge issue and has taken far too long to reach a solution because as you admirably stated, it doesn't make sense.

[@Maurice1191]

We know that you're implying but why?. What's the point you're tryin to make with this comment. Fyi, chattel slavery as was experienced during the Black Diaspora lasted longer in the US than anywhere else. You can take that "dog whistle" and ...you know where to put it.

[@aresee8208]

@@Maurice1191 I'm implying that most people are ignorant of the history of trans-Atlantic slavery. And you have not disabused me of that notion. For example, slavery in the US was abolished country-wide in 1865. Slavery, which was far more prevalent in Brazil, was not ended until 1888. But few people, Europeans in particular, seem to have a clue. In the Unitrd States, American history should rightly emphasize slavery and its implications in the British colonies of North America, and later the United States. But I do take exception to those in Europe, especially the British (but other Europeans as well), who think slavery was strictly an American phenomenon. In reality, Europe was knee-deep in it. As columnist Garry Younge of the Guardian once wrote,, although there may have been fewer long-term effects of slavery in Britain, it is only because the British "exported" slavery to other parts of the world. But the only thing they traditionally taught about the history of slavery was that in 1807 the British were the first country to outlaw the trans-Atlantic slave trade. They seemed to be very proud of that. But they avoided discussion of the fact that Britain engaged in the slave trade for centuries before that. And meanwhile, slavery continued to be legal in British colonies for another 30 years anyway. Europeans should teach European involvement in trans-Atlantic slavery, and not that it was just an American phenomenon. Things I have read suggest that this is happening to some extent, but slowly and cetainly not universally. THA'T'S what I'm "implying." Oh, and you know where YOU can stick that accusation of "dog whistle."

[@aaronburdon221]

@@Maurice1191 Actually, you're incorrect. Slavery in India lasted 2200 years and they sold many more times the slaves that the western sphere did (primarily because there were so many more people). The western slavery of black folks lasted about 300 years (if you count the early settlers). China currently has slaves and has for about as long as India.

[@TerryT324]

@@Maurice1191wrong

[@kurtb8474]

The Civil War documentary series by Ken Burns is fantastic. I've watched it more than twice. Plus, there is the movie "Gettysburg" which also features an impressive cast. And you may be surprised to learn how many Scots and Irish served in the war on both sides.

[@CEngelbrecht]

Sorry, Gettysburg is "Lost Cause" crap at least sixty years obsolete.

[@stonecoldku4161]

There is another American Civil War movie that I think is highly underrated and it is the movie Gettysburg. It was originally supposed to be a made for TV miniseries, but it was edited into a 4 and half hour movie. Like this one it is one of the more historically accurate war movies ever made. Gettysburg will also be a fitting movie to react to around July 4th because the battle took place on July 1st, 2nd and 3rd in 1863. Gettysburg was the bloodiest battle to ever take place on American soil and is arguably the most important battle of that war.

[@kerryferguson2400]

You are right! Gettysburg is an incredible movie! I would watch every reaction to that made. It is a wonderful piece of film making and so historically accurate as well!

[@stonecoldku4161]

@@kerryferguson2400I watch it every July 4th or as close to the anniversary days of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd as I can.

[@MrDevintcoleman]

The memorial to them is directly across from the Massachusetts state house (the capital building of the state) which is an appropriate honor. Truly a great pride of the state of Massachusetts.

[@samellowery]

Was it ever repaired after the "summer of love" when it was defaced by BLM/ANTIFA.

[@laurab68707]

My son is a civil war reenactor. They reenact particular battles. Gettysburg, Pa has a huge reenactment every year the first Friday, Saturday and Sunday in July. We've been to watch several. It's really amazing. Thousands of reenactors all together. They have the North (Union) encampments and the South (Confederate) encampments. You can stroll thru each encampment and see how they lived back then. It's really incredible. There are different tents set up through out which will have demonstrations about the medical doctors and what they had to use to help the solders. They also have an area that usually shows what the women wore. If you have never been, I highly recommend going to a reenactment sometime. There is a fee to get in, just an FYI. There are usually reenactments all over the country.

[@samellowery]

I reenact and not all reenactments charge.

[@williambranch4283]

In the Civil War, colonels had the highest casualty rate, because back then they were expected to lead literally. The movie, Lincoln 2012, should be your next movie.

[@McPh1741]

I was 11 when this came out and it's still one of my favorite movies. All the actors were on point and the score by James Horner amplified every scene. I still have the soundtrack CD. Great choice Dawn.

[@ronbo11]

Horner had written so many classic soundtracks, but "Glory" is my favorite. It's so sad he died in at 61.

[@chrisobrien2081]

"Oversimplified" is a KZbin channel that does a 2 part quick run down of the Civil War. They are about 25 mins each and its pretty funny. It would answer some or most of your questions. Keep up the great work!

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Yeah, I can’t recommend this highly enough. Lots of people are talking about Ken Burns’ series, but I doubt Dawn wants to look around to find it, much less spend 20 hours watching that, no matter how well made & fascinating it is. I think Oversimplified will give her the necessary information, while keeping her entertained as well.

[@ExUSSailor]

Excellent film! Denzel Washington's first Academy Award.

[@abramsalinas1004]

No other countries were directly involved in the war although many Irish units fought from both sides. The movie "Gettysburg" will show that as does the movie "God's and Generals" I think that's why Britain and France placed many soldiers in Mexico with French forces and British in Canada. They wanted to take over the scraps or leftovers resulting from the American Civil War because they thought America would be in such shambles it would be easy to conquer.

[@micksailor4715]

The fact you say that you "don't get it" where race is concerned, is a beautiful thing. I only wish more folks saw it the same way, because the world would be a better place if we all looked at each other as equals.

[@zedwpd]

She gets it. She understands "The Troubles" (you Americans google the term) causing a war between groups of people that sit in different churches. It's just a senseless.

[@micksailor4715]

@@zedwpd All I meant was that if everyone saw race as senseless, it'd be a better world. Love to you, brother.

[@goldenager59]

Indeed so. Author Romain Gary put it thus: "If evil deeds were done only by evil men, the world would be an admirable place." Love to you as well, friend. 🙂

[@shoddyworkmanship4934]

I get tired of that attitude. To me it comes across as virtue signaling. You can't imagine people in past times thought differently? People used to drill open each others heads to let invisible demons out.

[@SergioArellano-yd7ik]

You think ignorance is a beautiful thing?

[@erivej]

The character of Thomas, played by Andre Braugjher, a fantastic actor. Unfortunately he left us recently. Definitely will be missed.

[@boballen818]

The Civil War was definitely brought about by the issue of slavery. The division over slavery existed before the American Revolution was fought and the US Government was founded. Our founding documents were often agreed to with compromises over slavery. Eventually these compromises would become sticking points as the US expanded Westward. Due to the fact with each new state came political power in DC, the compromise between free and slave states could no longer stand. So, the the slave states except for 4 succeeded to form their own country starting the Civil War.

[@kirkdarling4120]

Yes, and slavery is noted as the central issue in the session declaration of every Confederate state and of the CSA itself.

[@l1ghtc0ntact77]

@@kirkdarling4120 Perhaps I'm mistaken but I don't recall the Confederate Constitution being any worse than the U.S. Constitution with regards to slavery. In fact, importation of slaves not already there was banned except if imported from the U.S. which is not really all that comforting coming from the Confederates but it is something stronger. As far as slavery being central, that is more of a judgement call as I'm quite sure that the Virginia Ordinance of Secession only mentions the oppression of slave states and not slavery in general. Virginia did not come all that close to secession until Mr. Lincoln requested his 75,000 volunteers to quash the South's ambitions and it was that action that turned the tide toward war in Virginia. Perhaps other states were more militant about their slaves but I, personally, can see a more balanced view. Too many people are similar to the reactor in this channel and think of the North as the good guys when in reality both sides were pretty bad.

[@artbagley1406]

I heartily suggest reading the book by Tony Horwitz, "Confederates in the Attic: Dispatches from the Unfinished Civil War." Horwitz was a Pulitzer Prize winner who, in this book, examines 1990s America's continued wrangling with its conscience over the causes, the confrontation, and the on-going ramifications of the conflict.

[@brandrider1989]

The civil war was not brought about by slavery itself . In actuality it was brought about because Abraham Lincoln had violated states rights . Mind you, slavery is wrong. I don’t support slavery and never would . And let this be said , Abraham Lincoln himself said, “ whether the union exists with or without slavery, it makes no differen difference to me .” Lincoln was not actually the hard abolitionist people think him to be . For Lincoln the imancipation proclamation was more a political maneuver designed to secure votes than anything else . The civil war was primarily fought because of a states rights issue and not primarily over slavery. The south, although it’s not widely known, actually had colored soldiers who volunteered to Fight for The confederacy and were not forced into service .

[@BryanKemerer]

@@brandrider1989 and a majority of those states rights issues where in regards to slavery

[@Waterford1992]

The most famous slave in history was a white man named Spartacus from an area in what is now Bulgaria and led a slave revolt against the Romans in Italy that lasted 2 years.

[@IsraelShekelberg]

During the Depression in Oklahoma, very little grew from the soil. There were some canned goods, but my grandfather also shot squirrels and fed them to my mama and her sister. You stew them. There are people around where I live that actually like squirrel stew.

[@shawnmiller4781]

24:26 Yup, Princess Bride, Robin Hood Men in tights as well

[@ronp1903]

Great reaction Dawn, to an excellent movie! And here is a brief explanation of the Civil War, "People in the Northern and Southern states had been debating the issues that ultimately led to war: economic policies and practices, cultural values, the extent and reach of the Federal government, and, most importantly, the role of slavery within American society." Thanks for another fantastic reaction, and I'm looking forward to your next movie! 🎥🍿❤️

[@alberttaylor2754]

Hi Dawn, The American Civil War was a war to keep what you know as America together that later became a war against slavery. American slavery was/is a terrible STAIN on our country that still affects us to this day. As a black man born in 1960 and a 'student' of history, I have slaves in my ancestry. If people would only see that we are ALL human beings, we would have a much better world, but some people have the need to feel that they are above those that do no look like them or believe the same things they do. I am so glad that my parents did not raise me that way. I believe that racism is a LEARNED behavior. When my oldest daughter was 4 or 5, she came in from playing crying because her playmate called her a 'Pickaninny', that is a word that OLDER white people called black people during the 1800's and early 1900's. That was NOT a word that little girl would have known in the 1980's, my child did not know what it meant but she knew it was bad. So my daughter's playmate LEARNED it from SOMEONE.

[@TerryT324]

500 for things that never happened, Alex.

[@nateashe3140]

The cutoff between the North and the South, was somewhere between Virginia and Maryland, around Washington DC... I live about a 2 minute drive from the location of the Battle of First Manassas (the first battle of the American Civil War). It gets a bit complicated, but if you have about 17 hours to spare, I can sum it up for you. lol. Excellent reaction!

[@josepha5885]

Glory is my favorite Civil War movie, I've teared up a few times when I've watch it.

[@leondasellis9854]

Thank you Dawn for posing some of the questions that's still asked today. All we ever asked for from the beginning is equality which is still met with resistance

[@KrazyKat007]

😂

[@250cchd54]

I think i cried for a month after watching this growing up. One of my all time favorite movies

[@josephstimpfl4594]

In the scene you recognized Cary Elwes you also had the actor who played the warden in Shawshank.

[@bluebird3281]

That guy plays a great bad guy

[@danh8804]

One tear made Denzel Washington a legend

[@bryanhenchik6580]

Hi Dawn Marie, excellent review and great movie to review. Let me begin by saying I am a reenactor, so I hope to answer some of your questions. Most reenactors get into the hobby, yes it is a hobby as we don't get paid, because of a love of history. Most love military history. No not all want to be north, in fact a majority want to be the rebels or the south. Most reenactors join a unit because of the battle history of the unit, little because of the politics of the time. The dividing between north and south is Maryland, W Virginia, Kentucky, and Missouri. Although, before the American Revolution and for a bit afterwards there were some scattering of slaves in the northern states. Actually, Great Britain was the first country to outlaw slavery in human history around 1826. The US did it 40 years later. For a good movie on Lincoln and the end of slavery watch Spielberg's Lincoln with Daniel Day Lewis one of the best history actors ever. I can't remember if you have watched The last of the Mohicans with Lewis a great movie as well. Yes the institution of slavery was the cause of the civil war. The South's economy was built on slavery. In fact, it was against some of the southern states laws to free a person's slaves. Since Lincoln was the first Republican president and the party was founded to abolish slavery, he was the first to get rid of the institution. Most of the presidents before him were from the south too. Another good film from Spielberg is Amistad about slavery and American before the civil war. The American revolution has the most integrated army until Vietnam, although I can't recall how integrated the Korean war was. The 54th Massachusetts was the first officially trained unit as you saw from the movie with the troops that were taken from the fields as the north invaded. Battle tactics were still set for the Napoleonic age and as such you would march up to 50 yards and shoot at each other. The Mini ball or bullet became standard during the civil war and that led to the high casualties. As a reenactor I have march slowly into a cannon shooting at me. I knew it was empty but the courage of the guys to march into it is unbelievable. It is scary to see even a blank cannon or musket or rifle shooting at you. Hope that answers some of your questions. Great review and look forward to more.

[@jdeamaral]

I thought Denzel Washington's acting was phenomenal when he was getting whipped. I loved Dawn Marie's reaction to that scene as well. That is how I know that she has a beautiful heart.

[@shawnmiller4781]

It wasn’t exactly accurate. Shaw was very anti-flogging

[@stonecoldku4161]

It was a tremendously well-acted scene, and it is probably the scene that is most remembered in the movie. It is however one of the more historically inaccurate scenes in the movie. Flogging of US troops as a form of punishment was banished by US Army in 1861, and the 54th wasn't formed until 1862 and didn't see action until 1863. Had Shaw or any other commander ordered the flogging of any of their men the commander would've at the very least been dishonorably discharged from the Army.

[@jeffburnham6611]

A scene that never even happened in real life. No soldier of color that served in the Union Army, was ever flogged as a means of punishment.

[@donkfail1]

This movie is an emotional ride! It's exciting, horrifying, uplifting and sad all at once. Afterwards I felt a little more educated, but exhausted. Fantastic reaction!

[@dnlprls]

When he says CHARGE that always gives me chills

[@footofjuniper8212]

This movie pulls tears from the eyes of every emotional human. I can't wait for your reaction to the Dirty Dozen!

[@flylikeabug465]

Lincoln was elected (first Republican, 1860) on a platform of keeping slavery from expanding, with the goal of it eventually being phased out. Before he even took office, many southern states withdrew from the United States and formed their own country, the Confederacy. The stated reason was that Lincoln would likely increase the power of the centralized/national government over what the Constitution gives it: they feared that he would become a relative dictator over the states. The key issue was whether slavery would expand, but there were other issues like questions about trade, etc. The South -- seen as those pushing against dictatorship for "democracy" -- was very popular throughout Europe. The issue of slavery wasn't talked about overseas. (So one of the big political battles in the War was keeping England from joining the South.) As the war continued, the meaning of the war changed. Lincoln, who had personally been opposed for slavery and wanted to see its slow death, pushed to make the war about ending slavery. This kept England out of the war (because they didn't want to be seen as pro-slavery), it gave the Union soldiers a moral cause to fight for, and, eventually, many Black soldiers enlist to fight for the Union. When the War did become more about whether or not slavery would continue, the textile factory workers throughout England put a lot of pressure for Victoria and her government to stay out of the war and to support the Union. Since the South was the major trading partner of the English textile industry, these workers knew that the South's loss would result in a crippled economy for them; many lost their jobs. But they saw in the liberation of the American Black man the liberation of the poor English White factory worker.

[@darthvaper7157]

Love your reactions. This movie was particularly informative for me. Can't wait for The Dirty Dozen. Another excellent one you should see is Kelly's Heroes.

[@mikerodgers7620]

Bimbo reactions. 😁

[@SPOCK_TALK]

In Boston there is a monument to Shaw and the 54th.

[@fantasyisreality67]

Dawn, I understand your frustration with the ending but look at it the same way as the Spartans who died in the movie 300, and you'll get the point.

[@charlize1253]

The fact that so many of the men died was part of why it's so famous. Slaves in the south were uneducated, considered less than human, forced to work like animals, and a lot of people thought they would be too cowardly to fight in combat and would all run away. The fact that they actually fought until the bitter end changed a lot of minds.

[@zackgallardo]

It is interesting to hear the outside perspective on the Civil War.

[@davidelliott2485]

Yeah but it’s a movie. Hollywood never gets history right.

[@davidhorrell2328]

How did they get it wrong aside from basic nudges to get the story more cinematic?

[@Boomerbox2024]

Rather than an "outside perspective" I like being reminded that even though American culture is consumed around the world, American History is not well known in other countries.

[@n0madtv]

tbf, it's not well known in the US either @@Boomerbox2024

[@ctidd]

The British people (and the French) actually played a significant role in the Emancipation Proclamation. Before Lincoln issued it, it was debatable if ending slavery was a war aim. There was real concern that Britain, seeing the opportunity to fatally wound an economic rival, would intervene on the side of the Confederacy (South). Lincoln knew that once abolishing slavery was clearly an objective, that the British people would never let their government help extend slavery.

[@SGlitz]

Gettysburg (1993) Long movie but the finest Civil War Movie ever, IMHO. Glory, though, is fantastic

[@bubhub64]

Dawn Marie, the Civil War between the Northern and Southern States was a pure blood bath and carnage, because both sides used outdated 18th and 17th century fighting tactics while using modern weaponry such as actual rifling in rifles, semi-automatic six shooters, Howitzers, and Gatling machine guns. The Civil War is the bloodiest war in American history. There's a condensed animated You Tube video Dawn Marie on how the war between the states started. You should watch it. Thanks for your emotional reaction Dawn Marie and rest in peace to all who died in the great Civil War.

[@SagaciousHamster]

You're a good person, Dawn. That shines through in your reaction to this film.

[@Ozai75]

As for the question of did any other countries interfere. Yes and No. The South's main export was Cotton, and England was a big purchaser of said Cotton so while they allowed smuggling to happen they never directly intervened. There were attempts by the South to bring them into the war, but it was thought then (and now) that England wouldn't intervene on behalf of a nation that still had Slavery (as they had just recently outlawed it) And after Lincoln made the Emancipation Proclamation after the battle of Antietam, it directly affirmed that the North was fighting to remove Slavery from the nation (Unlike how the South was *trying* to portray it as simple States Rights vs Federal Government) so that effectively shut out any true political help from any of the European countries.

[@victorcowboywest]

Dawn, you have asked some powerful questions, I suggest that you should check out every documentary and movie suggested to you. For me you have given one of best reactions to this movie.

[@michaellyons5208]

Probably already mentioned, but the opening battle was Antietem, Maryland, about 45 minutes west of me currently (90 minutes west of Baltimore.) Those marching scenes were partially shot at the 125th anniversary of Gettysburg reenactment. Boot Camp in Massachusetts, and the rest in basically South Carolina area.

[@jonnyp5586]

My favorite Denzel Washington movie, he is an unbelievable actor.

[@TYLEREMERSONisme]

I live in Charleston, sc, about 15 minutes from where the final battle took place. If you ever come to America, I'll be happy to show you around!

[@samuraiwarriorsunite]

It still amazes me that this is the only film that two amazing actors like Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman have ever starred in together.

[@falcon215]

I saw this on the big screen when it first came out and I'll always remember the silence in the room as all the credits rolled. I don't think anyone left until the screen was blank. Great movie and another wonderful reaction as always.

[@zmarko]

An amazing movie with an amazing score. James Horner knocked it out of the park with his composing for this film.

[@kevincaulder96]

I agree with the previous comment. Ken Burns gives an unflinching reading of the details of the Civil War and its chapters in American history. Your distress and uncomfortable questions are understandable. But your willingness to learn more is a welcome starting point in understanding what you don't know. There is another movie to watch from the period called 12 YEARS A SLAVE. It focuses more on a biographical story but does a fantastic job of storytelling. God Bless you, Dawn Marie.

[@sirelord4306]

Epic choice.

[@Charlton_Kekston]

Despite the overwhelming losses and the death of their leader, Colonel Robert Shaw (played by Matthew Broderick), the soldiers of the 54th continue to press forward, displaying immense courage and determination. Their sacrifice and bravery in the face of adversity send a powerful message about the resilience and valor of Black soldiers fighting for their freedom and equality in a deeply segregated society. The scene serves as a tribute to the heroism and sacrifice of the 54th Massachusetts, emphasizing their courage, dedication, and the high price paid in the pursuit of freedom and equality. The U.S. Civil War, which took place from 1861 to 1865, was a significant conflict between the Northern states (Union) and the Southern states (Confederacy). The primary cause was rooted in differing perspectives on slavery, states' rights, and economic interests. The Union aimed to preserve the United States and abolish slavery, while the Confederacy fought for states' rights, including the right to maintain slavery. The war resulted in the emancipation of slaves, the preservation of the Union, and a massive loss of life. The Union emerged victorious, marking a pivotal moment in American history and leading to the eventual abolition of slavery. The Civil War involved a majority of the states in the country. The conflict was primarily between the Northern states, known as the Union, and the Southern states, which formed the Confederacy. Union States: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, California, Nevada, and Oregon. Confederate States: South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, North Carolina, Missouri (had a dual government), and Kentucky (also had a dual government with allegiances to both the Union and Confederacy). These states were the main participants in the conflict, with some states, like Missouri and Kentucky, torn between loyalties to the Union and the Confederacy, resulting in internal divisions within those states.

[@chetcarman3530]

Knowing her as we do... how long before her first 'gloryhole' joke? --Didn't take long, about 14 seconds! 🤣🤣🤣🤣❤

[@KennethSavage-nn2vv]

I taught US history in high school. I would show one of three films each year. Gods and Generals/ Gettysburg/ and Lincoln Good reaction and review, thanks

[@JangTheKim]

OMG I love you. This movie is so impactful and meaningful but nobody has seen it. I love that you watched this. I watched this like once a once when growing up.

[@thorguff]

Lots of people have seen this.

[@curtismartin2866]

They used to have these places called movie theaters. I myself once visited such places and on one occasion saw this particular movie.

[@jamesbednar8625]

Awesome review of a great movie!!!!! A major fact that not very many Americans of any skin color knows is that the very FIRST African American soldiers to be formed/fight in the U.S. Civil War was the 1st Kansas Colored Volunteer Infantry Regiment. They were formed in 1862 and fought at the Battle of Island Mound in the state of Missouri in October 1862 - roughly around the same time frame as the first half of this movie. They also participated in numerous battles in the states of Missouri, Arkansas and Indian Territory (Oklahoma). Later, they were re-designated as the 79th U.S. Colored Infantry Regiment. This unit was in action from 1862-1864. If you look at the Confederate flag, you will see 13 STARS. The South considered themselves another version of the 13 Original Colonies that formed together and fought for their independence from Great Britain. In actuality, there were ONLY 11 Southern states that broke away from the rest of the nation, they were: Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas (thus 11 STARS). However, the states of Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky, Missouri were considered "border states" and had slavery. Maryland & Delaware declared their loyalty to the Union (North) and fought with the North, though Maryland provided troops for both sides. Kentucky & Missouri (both slave states) declared their NEUTRALITY and hoped to be left alone which did not happen. Both Kentucky & Missouri provided troops to both sides. Anyway, the South saw themselves as the NEW Revolutionaries and really hoped that Kentucky & Missouri would join the Confederacy and ADDED their STARS to the Confederate flag - thus making 13 STARS. Kentucky & Missouri never joined the Confederacy. Though Kentucky & Missouri were "officially" NEUTRAL, there were plenty of battles on their respective soil, especially along the Kansas/Missouri border - some of the most brutal battles of the war took place along that border.

[@samellowery]

It's a pleasure as a Kansan to see someone who knows real history especially about the 1st Kansas Colored Volunteer Infantry Regiment in the movie they talk about there being only white officers but Capt. William Dominick Matthews was in charge of company D during the skirmish at Island Mound 5 months before the battle of Fort Wagner.

[@jamesbednar8625]

@@samellowery Have been to the Battle of Island Mound State Historical Site just outside Butler, MO, a few times. Also, in front of the courthouse in town are some great monuments dedicated to these soldiers.

[@jacobjalomo2692]

The north had industrialized, having lots of factories that didn’t need slaves to work them. While the south had large plantations with labor, inducing crops. so basically, the north didn’t need slaves while the south was economically dependent on them.

[@davidhorrell2328]

Utterly wrong. Yes, the north was more industrialized, but slavery was not profitable to the south by the very early 1800s. Read the Articles of Secession of the confederate states and the Keynote Speech. The south merely wanted to continue owning humans for funsies. The American Civil War is clear cut good v evil. Granted a lot of the “good guys” were also just on the line

[@TheAardvark211]

Not exactly. The northern states began abolishing slavery starting in 1777. The northern industrialization was urged on by the fact that they didn’t have slaves, just as the southern states reluctance to industrialize was encouraged by the fact that they had slaves. A very strong case can be made that the fact of slavery made the south’s loss in the Civil War a virtual certainty.

[@TTM9691]

Nice try, Maga-moron. Good luck with that pea-brain of yours, and your revisionist history that your propaganda media spoonfed to you. You know Jacob you don't have to be a walking bowel movement your whole pathetic little life in Nowheresville, USA. Dumb hick.

[@MrSchrantastic]

Where do you think the textile mills in the north got their cotton from? "It stinks bad and we all covered up in it, too., Ain't nobody clean"

[@TTM9691]

@@MrSchrantastic Little triggered snowflake: you were a dirtbag region then, and you still are now, and you can suck your thumb and act like the Cornerstone Speech doesn't exists and act like the Confederacy wasn't a confederacy of rank scumbags and traitors, hilariously pretending to be "patriots" to this day. Not interested one iota in your whining about the North, sleazeball, no one is other than Maga morons and other scum from the South. Get the picture, lower animal?

[@CheshireSB]

The Shawshank warden was the general who Dawn asked was from the princess bride.

[@Gregbenoit2]

This is such a great film! Thanks for the video.

[@krs4976]

Thanks Dawn, Excellent film that will sit with you for quite some time. War has been glamourised alot through the history of cinema but there came a turning point where the realism and futility began to be shown Glory masterfully walks a fine line of celebrating a monumental historical event while still showing the horror, futiluty and loss. I recommend Full Metal Jacket and Platoon two films that really run with the realism and futility of war during the Vietnam war.

[@wyldhowl2821]

Apocalypse Npw, Platoon, and Full MEtal Jacket are the holy trinity of Vietnam films, though there are other good ones.

[@krs4976]

@@wyldhowl2821 definitely the best 3, I've always quite liked Hamburger Hill as well, it's nowhere near on the same level but there is something about it.

[@mikehawthorne5146]

Another outstanding American Civil War movie is 1993’s Gettysburg. I highly recommend it.

[@shawnmiller4781]

But I hate the way that Martin Sheen played Gen. Lee It’s like he spent the entire movie stoned

[@wyrmshadow4374]

The 4 hour version?

[@BryanKemerer]

You got to be careful with that though, it gets a little lost causey

[@mrkrinkle72]

I live in Jeffersonville Indiana, right on the Ohio river. My town was the last stop to freedom of the underground railroad. There's a house down my street that had tunnels into it for free slaves to hide in!

[@russellcollins52]

Another very heavy war movie that you can learn from is the Tuskegee Airmen. I think you can learn alot more from that then Red Tails. Tora Tora Tora is another great WW2 movie that explains the lead up to Prarl Harbor

[@craigwheller]

black and white soldiers were segregated in the US armed forces until 1948, they had separate units (almost exclusively) and black soldiers often had white officers

[@you166mhz]

have you seen the movie "Josey Wales" ? ... now that's a movie about the civil war era -- staring "Clint Eastwood" ...

[@bluebird3281]

Great movie

[@TheJabbate1]

Great movie but the author of the book is a fraud and a monster. The author is Asa Carter who published his works under a false identity of a Native American, Forrest Carter. Before he changed his name and wrote was is considered the most pro diversity books of his time, he was an active and violent member of the KKK in Alabama and was a speechwriter for the Alabama governor, George Wallace, and wrote Wallace’s infamous “Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever” speech. He may have had a legitimate change of heart but can he really be forgiven?

[@arjaylee]

While visiting relatives in Louisiana, and saw Re-enactment. There are groups that do this as a hobby, and travel around.

[@Nomad-vv1gk]

To this very day, there are two America's, one white and one black, separate and unequal. The American Civil War was fought between the United States of America (The Union) and the traitors of the eleven southern states in rebellion that attempted to secede from the Union in 1860 and 1861. The traitors composed of eleven U.S. states that declared secession; South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina; they warred against the United States during the American Civil War. The conflict began primarily as a result of the long-standing disagreement over the institution of slavery.

[@JensMyers-v7c]

I was a history teacher, and I feel you asked so many good questions, and I could never answer them in this forum. It would take too long. Especially about the causes of the war. I will answer the last one you asked, though, about re-enacting. I was a re-enactor for over a decade, and while I frequently had to put on a blue uniform, I was part of a Southern unit, and was proud to be so. We learned the same drill they used in the movie, and I carried the same musket they had, the 1853 Enfield .577 caliber rifled musket. We loaded and fired just like they did, with paper cartridges, but no bullets; just a sixty grain charge of gunpowder. If there is a better way to communicate with you I would be proud and happy to help you as best I can with any questions you have. You're a lovely, sweet girl, and I so enjoy your reactions.

[@Shocker74]

Should check out the mini series 'North and South' from 1985, then you'll get to follow along from the very beginning of the civil war. Plus, one of the best shows made for television.

[@wyldhowl2821]

I vaguely remember that; there was a sequel series to it too, right ?

[@cathleencooks748]

​@@wyldhowl2821Yes there was Love & War

[@henry770]

There’s something so wholesome and pure about her inability to understand the nature of slavery.

[@ReyEric]

I like the sound of the patron list getting longer! 🎉

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

The tactics used are Napoleonic linear tactics.

[@shawnmiller4781]

It really until the First World War that they got out of the habit of using those tactics. So there was a period of time between the ci viol war and WWI that as more mechanized weapons came into play that the death tolls really took off.

[@pauld6967]

Dawn, I recommend to you the KZbin channel Oversimplified. He has done a very good 2-part video on the Civil War,...so you will get the basics in less than an hour by watching both.

[@marklar9156]

Dawn! 160 years later it sounds so crazy that people and especially soldiers were lacking shoes (and socks were practically luxury) during those times. The main southern army (under general R.E. Lee) had soldiers walking barefoot for 100s of miles. The most well known battle. Gettysburg, was fought there in 1863 because at first southern soldiers came there to take shoes from civilians, neither side had actual plan to fight around that town but it just escalated very quickly there from shoe-raid!!!

[@rabooey]

Thank you for reacting to this movie, Dawn. It leaves a mark, doesn't it. And for good reason. This is why it's so important that new generations learn about these bad parts in history, so that we also learn how to not repeat them.

[@deweyoxburger295]

That first battle ‘Antietam’ screwed up my family for the next 150 years.

[@michaelfurukawa8526]

Up thru WW2 the United States military was a segregated force. Korea and Vietnam was the first time the US military was non-segregated.

[@meredithsmyth7059]

Hi, I'm a tour guide in NYC so if you ever come here, take one of my Brooklyn tours and you'll learn some things about this time in history. You did get the gist of some things. But to answer a few questions: Up until the Civil War our government had let states decide about whether to have legalized slavery. So through the early 1800s the northern states (more industrial) were banning slavery while the southern states (agricultural) were completely dependent on slavery. So yes, people were escaping from slavery in the south and fleeing to the north in droves. The Civil War began when the South formally declared they were seceding from the Union. And make no mistake: they seceded over the issue of SLAVERY, as they (rightly) believed their cherished institution's days were numbered. Initially, the north was really just fighting to keep the Union whole and wasn't so much about slavery and yes, there were plenty of racists in the North. Still are. But the Emancipation Proclamation issued by Lincoln made the war more definitively about slavery for both sides.

[@MrGpschmidt]

Sadly the cause of this war was slavery & (thankfully) was the only war within the states - all wars are senseless but the fights for them are for the greater good and sacrfices are made - it sucks. A great film with a powerful cast - great choice and reaction and a hug for you Dawn Marie. I also recommend PLATOON & THE DEER HUNTER about Vietnam.

[@vintagesportscardfinds964]

Agreed, Platoon is epic, and Casualties of War is also good, and I would recommend Hamburger Hill but I'm not sure Dawn's Marie's soft soul could handle that one.

[@mikerodgers7620]

State's Rights not slavery.

[@vintagesportscardfinds964]

@@mikerodgers7620 state's rights is just the default argument whenever the position is indefensible.

[@dvsreed]

@mikerodgers7620 the war was about slavery. The whole states rights nonsense was added years later to try and make the southern cause more noble. Every state that joined the confederacy explicitly stated that slavery was the reason. So stop the revisionist history and understand that the South started the war and they were fighting for a doomed cause

[@jonathanhill4366]

give me break. @@mikerodgers7620

[@AMortalDefiant]

Yes, Dawn, that is "the guy from The Princess Bride", Cary Elwes. :)

[@farmerbill6855]

Interestingly enough, the US military would not become fully integrated until after WW2. For a wonderful, but long, view of the Civil War from the perspective of the south, I'd suggest "Gone With The Wind". An epic film made in 1939, one of the best movies ever made.

[@johannesvalterdivizzini1523]

Great movie, but bad as history.

[@farmerbill6855]

@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523 how is it bad as history? Take away the Hollywood fluff that's in every film, including "Glory", and it's nearly exactly what happened.

[@LoveOldMusic808]

Integration became easier to sell after the combat records of the 100th Infantry Battalion/442nd Regimental Combat Team, (Go For Broke) the most decorated unit in U.S. military history and the 332nd Fighter Group, (The Tuskegee Airmen) during WWII.

[@darrenrager1005]

Great movie and I loved your reaction. Your confusion as to the separation and racism is product of how you have been raised and a testament to your wonderful personality and values. The reason you say that you couldn't watch again is actually why I have seen this movie so many times and will rewatch so many more. When I can watch and not feel the anger, frustration, pride, and sadness is when I know that then there is something wrong with me. I love this movie and the portrayals within.

[@shawnmiller4781]

Dawn, the oversimplified KZbin channel did a pretty good summation of the US civil war. It’s a two part’er but gives a very history of what happened

[@artbagley1406]

The argumentative Union General is the actor Bob Gunton, who portrayed Warden Norton in "Shawshank Redemption." Shaw's friend Cabot Forbes is played by Cary Elwes, Westley and The Man in Black in the movie "The Princess Bride."

[@robertjewell9727]

If films are your classroom then as a follow-ups watch AMISTAD by Steven Spielberg which historically comes before this film and LINCOLN also by Spielberg. This film is actually historically accurate and based on Shaw's journals.

[@stonecoldku4161]

They did send in more Regiments after the 54th, but they were unsuccessful in the charge as well. By reports of the attack the first two waves of the attack were the most successful and caused the most casualties to the men inside the fort. If I remember correctly the 54th was the only one of regiments to make inside before being pushed back out. Even after falling back after their attack was unsuccessful the remaining men of the 54th stayed on the beach to provide covering fire for the rest of other attacking Union regiments.