Reacting To Jordan Peterson Struggles with Bible's Ban on Interest: An Islamic Perspective

[@AlmirColan]

For a more in-depth discussion about interest/usury (Riba) from an Islamic perspective, please see this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2mpe5qOn9aKZtk

[@astroflyinsights]

So excited to have found your channel. I've spent most of my adult life in these topics, in practice and theory both; outside and in, both.

[@aaatik-wr4ef]

where is the original video

[@laugheristhebestmedicine9009]

@@aaatik-wr4efYou’ll find it in “Jordan Peterson is a oppressed with Islam” channel

[@nev890]

What a wonderful and informative video . May Allah bless you Almir Colan. Is there a way to pass on this video to the same group discussing the subject for it may impact their conscience to appreciate Islam as the religion of truth and peace to all mankind .

[@AlmirColan]

@@nev890 Thanks for that - you can use this link - www.almircolan.com/blog/bible-interest-ban

[@danishmohamed7248]

They change the scripture and "getting around" god's laws. God isn't testing your intelligence, he's testing your obedience.

[@gazalsaid7573]

That is so true and deep my brother, Danish

[@mbreeze2203]

​@@gazalsaid7573 Infact, it's also for our benefit too.

[@FNFNFN99KKK]

This!! You either obey God or you don't!!

[@sulemanmughal5397]

Well said

[@abdulsalamhamidjuma4204]

“For taking usury when they had been forbidden to do so; and for wrongfully devouring other people’s property. For those of them that reject the truth we have prepared an agonizing torment.” Quran 4:161

[@AlmirColan]

That is a stark warning for real.

[@xk8485]

Subhana Allah! Hasbun Allahu wa ni'mal-Wakil! By God, I feel bad for unlearned christians how they are abused by these charlatans! They will never get a Muslim in those conversations. They know better. Alhamdulilah for Islam!

[@the_batmobile0.4]

They hate real Christians, don't let these zoinist jews fools yall Christians thinking that they're on your side or any side, they shrink Christians in Isreal to 1% since they stole Isreal and Jerusalem, under the ottomans empire there were Muslims Christians and jews who lives together. Now there's hardly any Christians in Isreal but yet the fake Christians in the west be like we support Isreal..smh

[@anyq_CS]

if saudi arabia is a christian country, jordan will championing it non stop. wow free healthcare, free education, and minimum to no tax for its own citizens? thats very christian, "moslem" should follow christian. he will definitely say something like that🤣

[@HamzaPKR]

The use of "Mohammedan" straight away tells you what literature Peterson is reading. No serious scholar today uses this term.

[@hamzaa.8082]

JP probably has a trolling ig account swearing against Muslims

[@fredflinstone6601]

He knows exactly what he’s doing with that characterisation of Islam. He’s truly an evil clown

[@ShafiUddin-de3zr]

He's such a clown now. He cant be taken seriously on anything.

[@tamimator]

It tells you how he thinks about Islam. He’s good with words and knows how to use them.

[@amjanwaters6142]

'Mohammedan' is an orientalist word, a colonialist one.

[@MrMohaxi]

One can only wonder why a Muslim scholar or economist was not invited to partake in the discussion...

[@kaderferhat2495]

Because there are only 4 Muslim scholars that can discuss this subject intelligently and independently from their criminal governments, Hazem Salah in Egyptian prison, Zakir Naik has Interpol warrant from India, Sadiq Al Gharyan from Libya and Deddoi from Mauritania and they both will not waste their time. The rest of the “Muslim Scholars” got their degrees from Prager University

[@abdulmuiz4423]

​@@kaderferhat2495?????ok..........sure buddy....

[@dilkhozaimarwat3479]

@@kaderferhat2495 lol, tell me u know nothing without telling me u know nothing. There are many well known experts on Islamic Finances, e.g, Taqi Usmani

[@pierreclifton1865]

I do believe we as Muslims have a responsibility to raise awareness of this evil practice. Tell everyone, everywhere.

[@the_batmobile0.4]

They hate real Christians, don't let these zoinist jews fools yall Christians thinking that they're on your side or any side, they shrink Christians in Isreal to 1% since they stole Isreal and Jerusalem, under the ottomans empire there were Muslims Christians and jews who lives together. Now there's hardly any Christians in Isreal but yet the fake Christians in the west be like we support Isreal..smh

[@qswe1387]

1)- They say that the jewish interest free loans make communities prosper, yet they do not want us to adopt the same system. 2)- They imply that God doesn't know how to run economies, and that they know better than Him. 3)- They call muslims extreme, yet the exact same system by the jews is called "a beautiful thing."

[@ada0015]

what hypocrites they are

[@muhammad3490]

The more I learn about this ❤ Brother Colan (pronounced: Cholan) is one of the few educating us about this topic. God Bless you my Bosnian brother.

[@fiqhonomics]

Interest is forbidden to Jews also. Lending to non Jews at interest is them loopholing God's law.

[@vch309]

Wrong ​@@fiqhonomics

[@qswe1387]

@@vch309 Satire.

[@AbboyTopan]

Alhamdulillah for islam....

[@CanBeCrushed]

These people have no respect for their own scripture... Too busy avoiding the real world implications of being intellectually honest with the scripture

[@the_batmobile0.4]

They hate real Christians, don't let these zoinist jews fools yall Christians thinking that they're on your side or any side, they shrink Christians in Isreal to 1% since they stole Isreal and Jerusalem, under the ottomans empire there were Muslims Christians and jews who lives together. Now there's hardly any Christians in Isreal but yet the fake Christians in the west be like we support Isreal..smh

[@End_Zionism]

They’d rather talk about it like it’s fantasy 😂

[@mpty2022]

JP is just another sadhguru, keep slipping here and there never talk about the actual thing

[@ihabmahmoud571]

The sign of hypocrites

[@Radec913]

I do not believe that Jordan is a christian. He is a hypocrite i think. He only pretends to be a christian

[@AquilMandiqui]

Riba's promise of exponential growth in a finite world is like trying to inflate a balloon inside a sealed box - it might seem possible for a while, but eventually, the system will either burst or suffocate from the impossible pressure.

[@ibrahimsialibinbrahim9850]

Most of them are dancing around the wisdom of the prohibition of interest. Instead, many of them, especially Peterson, are trying to justify interest by making vast exceptions to the rule.

[@the_batmobile0.4]

They hate real Christians, don't let these zoinist jews fools yall Christians thinking that they're on your side or any side, they shrink Christians in Isreal to 1% since they stole Isreal and Jerusalem, under the ottomans empire there were Muslims Christians and jews who lives together. Now there's hardly any Christians in Isreal but yet the fake Christians in the west be like we support Isreal..smh

[@Farhadmusic29]

Jordan Peterson makes everything more complicated... and he thinks he is smarter than God.

[@SOHELRana-nk6od]

​@@Farhadmusic29spot on 💯

[@ahmedbadreddinemoucouf3662]

@@Farhadmusic29 when in fact he is just a drug addict, who cant even control himself over some shit he takes LOL

[@mohammadabuobayda447]

​@@Farhadmusic29 He is a hypocrite, he wants everything to suit his wishes, not an actual zest for the truth and wanting to gain higher wisdom than his. He desperately wants usury to be permissible so his funders don't get upset. (They are the ones who trade guidance for misguidance. But this trade is profitless, and they are not ˹rightly˺ guided.) 2:16

[@clipdump]

I'm a Catholic and my opinion is that usury is a deeply perfidious practice. Usury has been an unmitigated disaster for the economy, socially its negative impacts are practically universal. It effects everything. It allows a small group of individuals to synthetically decouple labour from value, thus driving down labour wages. Money, decoupled from labour, is now able to coagulate and move up stream into the coffers of the money lenders. There should not be a way to generate new money without value creation, it is inherently wrong as it undermines other market participants. This is in my opinion an abomination, a sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance and it cannot last. One cannot ignore the natural law indefinitely as the 'west' (as they call themselves) has done. Please continue to push this on christians, it will improve all of our lives.

[@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman]

its so sad to see muslims parttaking in interest... usury is warring against God in Islam because you are essentially stealing from the future which is why both sides lenders and lendees are in hell ...May Allah save us all ameen

[@anmolt3840051]

You sound like a Communist

[@anmolt3840051]

What your intuition tells you is essentially the same idea as the "labor theory of value" ... A Marxist proposition

[@al-thaqib1454]

​@@anmolt3840051 so if the bible prohibits charging poor people usury then the bible is communist? You probably call yourself a so called conservative but actually you're a liberal if you interpret the text according to your desires.

[@tarek332]

Not entirely true. Your point lacks nuance. You can lend to businesses, there just has to be shared profit/loss. The bank has a stake in the business and they have to do greater due diligence. They will be on the hook for losses as well to the agreed proportion.​@@anmolt3840051

[@Salio_Mendes]

The fact that they're really struggling to understand the simple reason why interest is prohibited is beyond me. It's actually scary how these people control our economies 😧

[@sugoi9680]

Well they don't but similar minded

[@GTari-ob6bj]

i promise u, they from all people do understand the reason..but their bosses tell them to act this way so when a layman watches this they think if JP doesn't get it then who am i to get it?

[@Salio_Mendes]

@@GTari-ob6bj ooh I see what you're saying, but I don't know how to feel about that 😭 this world is cooked fr

[@MrLongLoveTheworld-d9g]

Oh They understand. They’re just preparing excuses.

[@r80yan]

They understand... But they are benefiting from it, that's why they act like it's not an issue.

[@mansur1413t]

The thing with peterson guy is, he talks with ultinate purpose of talking. And this is what he is good at. That is all.

[@Mohsiy]

Yes. Addicted to his own exploration.

[@havenbastion]

That's not true. He's a great psychologist, to the extent he's not basing his work on fitting in, and russian literature, and some other things. His problem is that he goes well beyond his expertise.

[@mansur1413t]

@@havenbastion Yeah, when you publicly go beyond your expertise naturally you make yourself look like oral clown. He might be a good psychologicist, but not more than that. In the rest he talks to talk and makes himself look funny.

[@walidb123]

This is a brilliant breakdown and proves that for many the Nafs overrides their ethical, moral and reasoning faculties

[@s0bad]

"there HAS to be a way around" - words of someone who insists prioritising the dunya first and making religion secondary

[@mohammadabuobayda447]

(They are the ones who trade guidance for misguidance. But this trade is profitless, and they are not ˹rightly˺ guided.) 2:16

[@fluhasipi4940]

It’s amazing how Dennis Prager left out that little detail about Jews OK to charge interest to everyone else, or Peterson’s “ Greasing up the wheel” - they all know the truth, but have to twist it to quench their worldly desires.

[@Silama-pg9um]

The book of Shakespeare he is talking about is The Merchant of Venice. This book describe very well what is riba (interest) and it's prohibition in christian economy at that time and how jews were used to bypass the prohibition.

[@fiqhonomics]

The Jews loopholed their prohibition in order to do interest with the Christians and it is a factor in all the times Christians expelled Jews from their lands.

[@Hamza-qs7ez]

I love these videos. Jazakullah Khair Almir I find the most convincing analogy you use, as best as I understand, is that the wealth of the world is finite. Industry is backed on work; and the output of said work behaves like a linear function. However, when we introduce interest and these perverted financial products, we decouple the output of work from money. Interest grows faster than a linear function, any basic understanding of numeracy can see the velocity of an exponential function. And as interest persist, work is devalued as it’s not tethered to money anymore. And through this action, chaos will erupt as poverty does. It’s nothing but exploitation. It’s warfare and those suffering run into circumstances no one should imagine. May Allah swt protect us. Real industry matters

[@flypiflypi8835]

These people really are trying to cope with modern world and denying reality

[@walktip]

Money making them They don't make money

[@selahadinjemal7138]

The major difference between Islam and Christianity/Jews is that we accept that god knows better. Even if the whole world is mocking us. we don't pick and choose what we like from the scriptures. When we do the opposite of what the Quran says, we acknowledge that we are wrong and we are sinning, We do not try to explain away our sin, period.

[@fiqhonomics]

Christians and Jews doing interest together is a big factor in Christian pogroms, the Inqusition and the Holocaust.

[@Paqcar]

@@OutOfNamesToChooseGood for you 👍

[@nerv4316]

@@OutOfNamesToChoose Religion is the truth but the people will corrupt. May God guide as all, Inshallah.

[@AbooHuthayfa]

Well done Almir. The "reacting to" style here is very effective.

[@Mak007-h5s]

Please have a video with Jonathan Pageau. It would be good if you share the islamic prespective with him. In Sha Allah

[@AlmirColan]

I would be actually interested in having dialogue with him - he was very curious and genuine in trying to understand wisdom behind prohibition

[@alimamulma3sum14]

​@@AlmirColanHe's far from genuine. He thinks of himself as a Prophet and claims he gets revelation in his dream! When he met Mohammed Hijab in 2022 he refused to answer the simple question of "Do you believe in God?" He also works for Daily Wire, called for the annihilation of Palestinians, and actively promotes zionism! So, No! He's Not a genuine person at all!

[@alielbaitam]

Is there any sin in their book they didn’t “find a way around” like JP asks for usury?

[@xlak6800]

i love how u speak brother very easy to listen to i love your calmness

[@MalekElmellouki]

Excellent work! We want more content like this

[@imammarc]

“Some Jews take words out of context and say, “We listen and we disobey,” “Hear! May you never hear,” and “Râ’ina!” [Herd us!]-playing with words and discrediting the faith. Had they said ˹courteously˺, “We hear and obey,” “Listen to us,” and “Unẓurna”. It would have been better for them and more proper. Allah has condemned them for their disbelief, so they do not believe except for a few.” - Sūrah al-Nisā’ v. 46

[@fiqhonomics]

Word twisters. That's why so many of them are lawyers.

[@treelight1707]

Truly informative video. Quite rare to see someone breaking it up like that, very well done. God bless.

[@danielnelson9333]

My wife and i try to follow the Qur'an and we have tried very hard to avoid borrowing on interest. It is hard but God has helped us and alhumdulillah it has been possible and indeed very beneficial for us. (Incidentally i do not trust "Islamic finance" either, though there may indeed be legitimate versions of it.)

[@bee2373]

Great to hear, Alhumdulilah! May Allah reward you both with goodness in this life and in the Next! And give you financial security, Insha’Allah. The right path isn’t always easy but it is the best for us!

[@danielnelson9333]

@bee2373 thank you!

[@samuraijosh1595]

Can you explain how did you actually do it?

[@danielnelson9333]

@@samuraijosh1595 Gladly--though of course the real answer is, God allowed us to do it. But as for details (and apologies in advance if I'm oversharing): we rented for 8 years (and have been blessed with employment, though mostly part-time and with some stints of unemployment, and also were blessed with low rent in pre-inflation Rochester, NY), we homeschool our kids, have been blessed with good health (and free Medicaid due to our relatively low income and household size), have been blessed with a used car that has been miraculously reliable for 8 years, and so through God's grace were able to save up and buy a house with cash. It was a "fixer-upper" in a fairly poor neighborhood (so trusting in God and not being prejudiced was key: most people from my background are afraid to live here, yet it really is on the whole very nice: not necessarily safe for kids to walk around, but what place is?, and our policy is to be helicopter parents anyway, especially since we have girls), and took over a year of more saving and lots of DIY work to get it in good shape, but we wouldn't want to live anywhere else, alhumdulillah! Anyway, of course everyone's situation is different (and I forgot to mention that my dad helped us with a small loan), and we are both very privileged in terms of education and family background (which might help explain why we don't need to work full-time: our stints as adjunct professors are much more remunerative than most jobs, and allow us the free time to homeschool); but purely anecdotally, on the basis of my own personal experience, it is not only possible but life-saving to avoid interest. As always it is a matter of forming a will to do something because it is the right thing; I believe God blesses such efforts.

[@haythamabdel-qader6934]

Incredible commentary, incredible speaking style that is clear and concise, well put together video. Truly excellent. Thank you.

[@bertwarley6003]

Absolutely phenomenal video and commentary Almir, thank you for doing this. It's frankly shameful for these "scholars" to laugh at their own Scripture, call people who actually follow it -- Muslims -- extreme. And then not have any Muslim scholar on that panel. I suspect that a Muslim scholar sitting on that table will have given them answers about their own religion that they are completely ignorant of. And frankly embarrass them.

[@mansur1413t]

Brilliant format Almir. Thank you very much.

[@iftutahir760]

JazakAllahu khair wa barakAllahu fiik, really well explained and your simple breakdown really puts them to shame SubhaanAllah! Allahamdulillah for Islam!

[@ahmedsalad9509]

Excellent video, JazakAllahu Khairan brother

[@XxLifePro803xX]

JazakAllah Khair this was fantastic!

[@bee2373]

Jazaka Allahu Khairun for your commentary. I especially loved what you said at the end. That we shouldn’t treat people differently.

[@mohdnorzaihar2632]

They all didn't read "Shakespeare" merchant of Venice!!???

[@salampakistan3691]

They banned it in USA, I thjnk

[@MSAli86]

Brilliant content brother

[@user-oc7uu8ss1x]

Interesting video, thanks for your sharing your thoughts and knowledge.

[@mecanuktutorials6476]

Jazakallah Khair for this great video. Its so important for people to realize that investments and loans are independent and often contesting concepts. Taking a loan out means exactly what is described here: 8:15. You don’t have the capital or resources to purchase or fund so you BORROW from a lender. Putting the money you BORROWED toward an investment such as a house is foolish because over the course of paying back that loan, you wind up paying potentially hundreds of thousands beyond the purchase price of the house. Because of that, the seller tries to lock-in those interest payments into the sale price when the house is relisted for sale. Everyone does this AND boom, condos are suddenly $1 million and rising. What you get at the end is still JUST A HOUSE but it’s cost keeps rising because the people who bought it borrowed money to buy it. What they’re discussing about countries borrowing has all the same problems. Borrowing from the future starves the future.

[@rIhnR7VhkwdhrYkXZ4Tzag]

I appreciate your simplicity. Thank you. May Allah bless you. I have a few ideas on how to address this very issue. If you are in the US, then I can run by you. It's not a perfect idea. Perhaps we can work together and improve. Let me know.

[@mounir7407]

MA love your channel, keep making these videos iA and JAK

[@zrm7108]

Thank you brother for this important perspective.

[@mhladen2157]

May Allah reward you brother, you'll help a lot of people understand the financial side of Islam

[@mizar_raha]

Your commentaries on the points discussed are exactly on point👍

[@bittertruth0000]

Jordan Peterson is a clown

[@MaxoSall]

A clown that we help create

[@bittertruth0000]

@@MaxoSall yup sadly.

[@nbk2134]

Correction he's a highly sophisticated clown. Get your facts right 😅😂

[@pierreclifton1865]

seriously he is...but some laymen eat his speeches up. Hence his popularity, which basically shows that rhetoric (as a old antiquity practice) is NOT dead.

[@the_batmobile0.4]

They hate real Christians, don't let these zoinist jews fools yall Christians thinking that they're on your side or any side, they shrink Christians in Isreal to 1% since they stole Isreal and Jerusalem, under the ottomans empire there were Muslims Christians and jews who lives together. Now there's hardly any Christians in Isreal but yet the fake Christians in the west be like we support Isreal..smh

[@Days6281]

Thank you for this video and thank you for exposing their utter hypocrisy.

[@AhmedSamy87]

it amazes me how Jordan Pterson confidently engage and gives you optinion in split of a second about a topic he is not versed in, economics and Islam, and then he answers simple yes/no questions in 15 mins monologue, a true hypocreate wallahy

[@AlmirColan]

Good observation

[@yazidyusop]

MasyaAllah. Oh Allah bless this channel n the owner. May you produce great content with useful information at all time.

[@razinfa]

Thanks

[@Beyond470]

بارك الله فيكم ونفع بكم

[@AdamShivers-bt2hs]

Ma'shaa'allah brother Thankyou for sharing ❤

[@FauzanARB]

جزاك الله خيرا كثيرا

[@srcp1551]

Curious If there's room to work on a Masters (economics) thesis on this Usury topic - maybe specifically: how debt financing and equity financing in startups/businesses - works for/against the idea of usury. or something along these lines.

[@SadaqaJariyaaaa]

I’m so proud to say this guy taught me in highschool. May Allah reward him immensely

[@lachidong7818]

thank you

[@TheHH77]

I wish they would have a Muslim like you Almir on the table to clarify to them.

[@rijusnar1994]

These pagans Always speak about islam without inviting someone from our faith

[@ozhazem]

thank you for this critical analysis on that

[@Andy-hi3yt]

Great video, thank you Almir

[@dilaraozmeric4420]

This was interesting. I had no idea Christian and Jews had prohibitions on usury, too.

[@fire.smok3]

Christian kingdoms and empires all banned usury from the start until the end of the Middle Ages, where they started to work around it by making Jews handle interest-based banking hands-on, while they themselves technically didnt get their hands dirty, even though they were very much participating in it and building it into their system. Eventually they straight-up legalized interest for everyone In Jewish Talmudic law, Jews are not allowed to engage in usury with other Jews, but theyre allowed to lend interest-based loans to non-Jews There have been many people and societies throughout history that opposed usury, some of the ancient Greek philosophers for example

[@ahmedam77]

Great video!

[@SHAHIDANAWAR-B89]

Thank you for interviewing him. Almighty Allah grant you with good health

[@AlmirColan]

It was reaction to his video

[@pierreclifton1865]

Ameen

[@momoscurry3398]

Amazing video

[@victorkey1218]

Jazakallah khairun brother

[@akram.ibrahim]

Great video

[@NW-ek6ff]

14:18 very good note

[@mohammadsesthrahman380]

Thank you, Habib. Allah has declared WAR on riba! ❤

[@miroiboii8936]

They always keep condem islam and yet they att the same time they claim islam copied their books. Let's pretend it is so, how then muslim do more what of their books say and teach than themselves so called the real followers of the holy books?

[@AlmirColan]

Good point - How many followers of other religions, besides Islam, even care about halal and haram in muamalat, whether in commercial transactions, food, etc...

[@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman]

whenever a zombie days that im like yeah it can seem copied because the word of God doesnt change...the only difference is that Quran was not courrupted by men

[@anyq_CS]

i forget which pope but he literally co-signed a book which say the today the original religion of jesus is preserve in the form of islam.

[@smileyyyyy10]

JP is an absolute waffler 😂

[@baay81]

thanks for sharing

[@hazn139]

Excellent breakdown brother, MashAllah.

[@ishehroze]

How can anyone take Dennis Prager seriously with regards to religion?

[@nailachou1174]

It is easy to see how just a little bit of interest rate rise as low as 0.25% can cause a cascade of bank collapse globally as witnessed during early 2023 as a result of underwater bonds in US banks, and recently when Japan central bank increased its interest rate by 0.25% causing decline in international stock markets

[@momonasri8611]

This analysis is super intriguing and clearly points out the fundamental issues, emphasizing their lack of understanding about why their so-called "Western society" is struggling morally, functionally, and financially for the lower classes of their society while the fat gets fatter.

[@abdifatahasahal3839]

Very good commentary 👌 👍🏾. Where can the full video of their discussion canbe found?

[@Cyrus-Idris]

مَثَلُ ٱلَّذِينَ حُمِّلُوا۟ ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةَ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَحْمِلُوهَا كَمَثَلِ ٱلْحِمَارِ يَحْمِلُ أَسْفَارًۢا ۚ بِئْسَ مَثَلُ ٱلْقَوْمِ ٱلَّذِينَ كَذَّبُوا۟ بِـَٔايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ وَٱللَّهُ لَا يَهْدِى ٱلْقَوْمَ ٱلظَّـٰلِمِينَ The example of those who were entrusted with the Torah and then did not take it on (i.e., neglected their responsibility towards it by not putting its teachings into practice) is like that of a donkey who carries volumes [of books] (But does not benefit from their contents). Wretched is the example of the people who deny the signs of Allāh. And Allāh does not guide the wrongdoing people. (62:5)

[@arshh2100]

Good analysis

[@fiqhonomics]

Interest and loans distort price sensitivity, the underpinning of supply and demand on which the entire free market is supposedly based.

[@denidosh]

This is a seen example of how all previous religions were changed by people who claim themselves as smart enough to rethink a law of the God sitting all around a table.

[@abdullahk8691]

Good video

[@meraremi5604]

Bravo

[@tanyanuhi2750]

Allah vas nagradio obilatno.

[@emranuddin3687]

Very good video

[@hu6284]

Alhamdulilah

[@youknow6968]

You failed to recognise and condemn his referring to Muslims as Muhammedan, that's the sly slur, quiet hate you shouldn't ignore. It should be pointed out, and condemned at each opportunity. It's central to altering the Muslim identity from Muslim to a Muhammadan. Ignore it at your own peril.

[@mysticfirestarter666]

every time i listen to enemy of islam the more firm it gets

[@610vegas]

I really like Jonathan Pageau, you can tell he is an honest man.

[@aelisharshadkhan8113]

This HAS to reach the Christians!!!

[@highimpact3910]

Do you have the link to the original video with Peterson?

[@AlmirColan]

I was forwarded this video only

[@nailachou1174]

This is a clip from Jordan Peterson’s Guest’s Bites|Islamic finance & the early church| Jonathan Pageau| Dennis Prager| Exodus; the original video is from Biblical Series Exodus episode 11, 1hr30m onwards

[@highimpact3910]

@@nailachou1174 thank you

[@abuhijjra]

One of the reasons interest is prohibited is because, it’s oppressive to the have nots. It also keeps the poor, poor and the rich, rich.

[@mechwarrior83]

Of the entire panel presented, only the gentleman in the blue jacket seemed worth listening to and appeared not have an axe to grind. The point about credit creating a sort of acceleration was fascinating, and maybe sometimes we are not the most responsible with the accelerator pedal. To be clear, humans are especially bad at predicting what the future outcome of events will be.

[@alberxenos]

Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ

[@alikoussah3353]

jordan peterson said on piers morgan that he doesnt believe it doesnt concern him whether god exists or not, and whether the after life exists or not. Real gem to hear him discussing this topic...

[@610MARYAM]

when a person sings in the shower it usually means theyre happy and content with their purpose

[@nailachou1174]

This is a clip from Jordan Peterson’s Guest’s Bites|Islamic finance & the early church| Jonathan Pageau| Dennis Prager| Exodus; the original video is from Biblical Series Exodus episode 11, 1hr30m onwards

[@mhmd7]

May Allah bless you my dear brother Almir. Wallahi the only solution to this massive financial problem the whole world is facing right now, every country being billions and billions in debt, is interest-free financial system. May Allah grant the ummah victory in establishing such system. Keep up the good work akhi.

[@lemthealchemist641]

17:35 Seems like someone forgot the housing market crisis and recession of 2008 😂😂 Did the bankers “bare the cost” with that one?

[@AlmirColan]

Yep - see this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXTFZ6h8d8-ej7s

[@NW-ek6ff]

8:40 yes I feel he is genuine

[@tamimator]

It has everything to do with credit

[@RichardGrenier-u2z]

This was a standard concept in the ancient (pre Roman) world. It was permissible to charge interest on commercial loans. However it was forbidden for private loans. There was also the concept of debt forgiveness, the Jubilee in the Jewish tradition. This was done by Kings for very practical reasons.

[@laugheristhebestmedicine9009]

Why is a christian psychologist speaking with other Christian theologians about the concept interest in the bible however immediately turns around to discuss the islamic position on the topic?!

[@ibrahimsaputra9150]

I think this gentleman got it (14:12) as to why interests are bad for society, it's like artificial acceleration and its speed up economy without regarding the wellbeing of the world, because regarding some things need times and its oppose the effect acceleration.

[@camerong2323]

Why is Jordan Peterson even there? He’s not an economist and not a theologian

[@THXx1138]

He has a large following of lemmings.

[@xirsixussien7303]

The program is his.

[@astroflyinsights]

17:37 gaslighting. He knows very well banks extract wealth (not money but wealth), even in write-offs (secured, collateralised). And the excessive interest charged to unsecured debt is _not_ "lost" across a *category* . None of them addressed the fact that currency itself is issued at interest, therefore it's impossible to avoid.