Reaction To Dutch People & Freedom - Nationale Herdenking & Bevrijdingsdag

Reaction To Dutch People & Freedom - Nationale Herdenking & Bevrijdingsdag
This is my reaction to Dutch People & Freedom - Nationale Herdenking & Bevrijdingsdag
In this video I react to important dates in the Dutch calendar Bevrijdingsdag and Nationale Herdenking and how that relates to the freedom that people in Netherlands experiences.
Original Video - • Dutch People & Freedom...

[@Remko_Simracing]

On Herdenkingsdag we are 2 minutes silent at 8:00 pm. Personally I find the ones that are not quiet very disrespectful. Not only to our country but to all the fallen ones throughout the world. The day after, Bevrijdingsdag, is where everyone in the country is celebrating the liberation. The whole country is a party. Love the video's Mert. Keep it going!

[@ricokramer7716]

yeah on "bevrijdingsdag" i go to the city of "Wageningen" the entire city is one big festifal with music and booze..!! s*x dr*gs and rock 'n roll baby..!!!! whahahahaha

[@martindegroot7888]

@@ricokramer7716 stoere vent....

[@lorettabes4553]

@@martindegroot7888 lol ikr

[@bvdheide1975]

Both my parents were born in the last year of the war. I asked my Oma many times to tell me stories about those days. They lived in a very small farming village on a farm in the North (Foxwolde, Drenthe). It's more just a road with farms rather than a village to be honest. They had not seen any violence except some of the younger men being forced to work in the factories and some men got recruited in the German Army (I can't say what part was forced and what part was voluntarily). What they did have though, all 5 years, is Germans visiting the farm to take all the food, animals, fuel, vehicles, bicycles, clothing, medication and whatever they needed or could fit in their trucks. Different groups of raiders visited the farms multiple times per month, so basically nothing was left after the first winter. As far as I know, nobody got hurt but the Germans just came, took everything and left again. I remember my Oma always telling the story of their fat work horse. I don't know how a horse can be so fat without getting food but they told the Germans that the horse was pregnant and that they could not take the horse. This somehow did fool the German raiders for a while and according to the story they butchered the horse at some point and traded the meat. Even at 97+ years old, my Oma had a twinkle in her eyes when telling this story, so proud of them cunning the Germans half a century ago. Obviously, the people on the farms had at least some food but they had nothing else. For example, my grand father had to bicycle more than 100km (to Arnhem) to trade farming tools for his big bag of potatoes, on a bicycle without tires! I'm not sure if you ever tried a bicycle without tires, but it really hurts every bone in your body. I would have given up after 1km.

[@lorettabes4553]

In school we have a show '13 in de oorlog' or 'Thirteen in the war', where we learned a lot of life during the war in the Netherlands. We were neutral during the first world war, but once you get invaded that becomes impossible. For me, freedom means seeing my neighbors and everyone around live their lives the way they choose. Their cultures and celebrations. Also choosing your own partners and having agency over yourself (sex, gender, pronouns etc.). A small joy I always remember is seeing exotic foods in supermarkets. The fact is we can eat anything we want and that brings me joy. Another aspect of freedom for me is being able to go out in nature or even enter Parks. It's unfathomable to me that in the past I might've been seen as too coloured to be allowed into places. I have the freedom to wear my curls and not be stared at.

[@user-wn8cp3qf1x]

My grandmother was fourteen when she started 'to help' German soldiers working at the local train transshipment but she either put food in her far too wide clothes or stuff that could be exchanged for food. Her mother often said that if not for her girl, the family of nine wouldn't have survived the war.

[@richardmeijer1529]

I’m Dutch, and out of respect for the victims and liberators the 4th and 5th May were always important memory days. It makes me proud to see it is still living with the younger generations. The last 10 years I live in Thailand, and probably due to the doubtful role Thailand played in WW2, there is hardly any knowledge and respect for what happened in this country. Thai history doesn’t tell what happened. You can see here many motorcyclists wearing Nazi helmets. When you ask them about it, they say they didn’t know….!? My girlfriend was wearing this helmet, she had no idea. She thought it was fashion. I quickly bought her a normal one.

[@Isdezenaambezet]

It's bizarre in Thailand. The river Kwai museum has some truly strange things in their museum as well, including some very odd statues of Hitler and Stalin.

[@Isdezenaambezet]

My Scottish partner was with me for the first time on 4th and 5th of may this year. I told her that on the 4th at 8 we would have 2 minutes of silence, and no matter where we were we would take part. We were out to dinner and the waiter came up to us about 5 minutes before to alert us that they would turn off the music and announce the moment of silence. It's so universally observed that the government has to warn people to pull over their cars in time and not stop in the middle of the road to observe the moment of silence.

[@ETools.]

the symbol that you asked about is the general symbol of 4 and 5 may. its a torch, symbolizing resistance and fightingspirit, and instead of a flame it has a dove on top, symbolizing peace. The colours themselves are the colours of the Dutch flag and can have other meanings too. White, for example, being considered the colour of peace.

[@MrElstef]

When I was born in 1975, most people who lived experienced WWII it was only 30 years ago. So everybody, every family, had their own story to tell about the war. Those personal experiences that my grandma's other family members and other people have shared with me, I try to renemeber those on may 4th, and during the 2 minutes of silence, I think of both my grandma's and in honour of them promise myself to never take the freedom I've got and others have for granted. Most people who told me those stories have died over the past almost 50 years of my live. But with this renemberance day, their stories stay alive

[@houghi3826]

It is 2 minutes silence no matter where you are. I have seen people on the highway stop their car (in a safe manner obviously) to do the 2 minutes of silence. You in a restaurant, you should shut up for 2 minutes. Going for a walk? Just stand still for 2 minutes. It should be something all over Europe. It is a great moment to reflect and not juts about WWII, but ANY war.

[@reddragonready]

BS Most people just go about their business

[@realpirate]

@@reddragonready I disagree, it is a very special day here in Kikkerlandje !

[@CakeboyRiP]

​@@reddragonreadytrains stop, no planes take off, people are watching tv or at remembrance meetings, all tv and radio will be silent. Ofc there will be those that go on with their usual business but those are just asocial fools

[@user-mh8tl6cu8v]

@@CakeboyRiPadding to that some people might not look at the clock and missed it on accident, those people mostly still keep 2 minutes silence but just a few minutes after 8.

[@CakeboyRiP]

@@user-mh8tl6cu8v exceptions do exist. I missed it once as well. But i was mostly referring to people who don't care

[@ceeshagebeuk]

Mine grandfather was ordered to work in 1945 in February, i think, to work in Germany, in their factories, he escaped to the farmlands and was in hiding till the end of the war, he was so serious about the 2 minutes of silence that it made me cringe, but now i understand everything, rip "daddy" 😢

[@Algarve1955]

Helemaal mee eens met dank aan onze bevrijders heb het zelf niet mee gemaakt maar respect voor al die jonge jongens die hun leven hebben gegeven dit mag nooit vergeten worden.

[@willemgeboers]

I love your interest and respect so much man. Yeah my grandparents lived through that hell too. Hiding jewish people. It is so sad to realise that this happened so relatively recent. I mean I grew up with Germany throwing down the wall and Europe becoming one; and humanitarian; and full of positive life spirit. Together. But man this can never be forgotten. So many streets in my area are named after Canadians and Americans giving up their lives to end this terrible war. 2 minutes is not enough if you ask me. If somebody disrepects that moment; I will kick your ass that's for damn sure. :D Keep up the good work brother!! Very inspirational. I hope you have a great time in Malaysia (right?). I've spent some respectable amount of time there too with friends.

[@lorettabes4553]

[Dutch person here] On these days I live my life as normal, but once the official airing starts we sit down and watch it (for us it's usually dinner time which is late for Dutch norms). So we eat and watch. We always hold 2 minutes silent. I think even trains stop for 2 minutes to respect the tradition for anyone who isn't home yet by that time. My grandmother and father never talked about the war times. They were very young when everything happened. Iirc they suffered hunger, and trauma like that you do not want to remember. They talked more about their normal lives, like my grandmother started working at 13, helping out on the farm and later becoming a maid. My grandfather kept the same job as his father before him: managing the farm, mainly crops. They had 10 children. Every year it's mentioned that the pool of survivors is getting smaller, which makes sense of course. Many of the elderly at this point were born during the war. I do deem their stories just as important, even as a baby surviving a camp or hunger is something to be remembered: we never want those times to happen again. (Which is why the Herdenking was extra charged when after 70 years, war had returned to Europe.)

[@MalePietje]

My grandfather was a sailor. One day, when he was 16 years old (this was 1942 I believe), the ship he worked on was transporting German military trucks to Norway. Someone had filled the gas tanks of the trucks with sugar in an attempt to disable them. The Germans found out and arrested the whole crew on suspicion of sabotage. My grandfather was locked up for 2 week before being released due to lack of evidence.

[@Bibi-J]

At Liberation Day, we do not only celebrate our freedom. We also remember and honor our Liborators on that day. ( Canadians, British, Americans and so on) All the veterans from those countries, who saved us ... Are invited every year... But sadly, ofcourse there are not many alive anymore. ( Old age) We NEVER forget how thankful we are.

[@nikedoesthings]

My grandma is 92, she was a teen in the war. She never talked about it until recently. She's seen people get shot in front of her for dumb reasons, like not being able to show their papers, she's remembered the Germans rolling into her village with tanks and trucks and giving chocolate to her and the kids, to seem friendly at first. She said her first thought of the Germans was 'it isn't that bad, they seem nice', but as time progressed, that opinion changed. She still doesn't say much of it, but she's scared of our future with Mr. Putin.

[@letheas6175]

My grandfather used to own a factory, and during WW2 it was bombed entirely to the ground (huge factory too) he was able to somehow escape the destruction, and he survived the war. After which he started some clothing stores and sadly eventually died of a heart attack, but damn. I can't imagine the things he had to go through during that time. My grandmother often liked to troll the German soldiers, she was kind of badass too.

[@user-rh4sq9cx1e]

As a Dutchman, I believe freedom stands for RESPECT AND APPRECIATION FOR EACH OTHER and allowing everyone to live their own lives with value

[@atarvos8686]

No...freedom stands for much more. Including the right on a own opinion and the freedom to offend others shock others with you're opinion. To have an government that represents the will of the people. Is governing in the interest of the people. First after that we are talking about the constitution. Who the left only respects if it suits them.

[@user-rh4sq9cx1e]

@@atarvos8686 precies

[@nielsvandriesten4386]

Yeah and how you see it nog with massage imigrations etc EU propaganda etc? Not the Lisbon treatry in Maastricht?

[@prutteltje1300]

My 4th may remembrance day starts at 1800 hour at the old cemetery of Roermond. We go to the last grave of the fallen volunteer as I am a Red Cross volunteer. Afterwards we go to the "Zwartbroekplein" . There is a "40-"45 monument where we remember the fallen ones the same as the "Damsquare" in Amsterdam.

[@peterkeijsers489]

My mom's cousin was one of the very first victims of war in my country. He was freshly in the military, and he died from a bombing on May 10th 1940. Also, my city - Venlo - was the worst hit city in the Netherlands AFTER Rotterdam. The only difference is that Rotterdam was bombed by the Germans, and my city was bombed by the allies. Nowadays all war victims are remembered on May 4th - even from recent wars - which takes away some of the dignity of that day (in my opinion)

[@mennovroom5537]

The Dutch are still very grateful for our liberation by British, American and Canadian soldiers. Whenever Scotland is in trouble we will come to fight with you. You can count on that!

[@dusbas709gaming9]

i am a decendend of a WW2 Concentration camp survivor she was only 12 or 13 when she got to the camp soviets were just on time with libarating that camp if they were 2 days later she would be dead and she died in 2021 because of Heart Trauma but she looked peacefull in death i caryed her coffin when she left the old peoples home the sang for her one lasted time Greetings a dutch person

[@user-rt7hz2ds5e]

my father, born 1922 was a bus driver during WW2, was through te geman occupation still a busdriver for "gruppen einsatz" (transport for troups), during a bomming raid he drove his bus off the dike and flead! via france he wend to the UK, after some interrogation he fought the germans on a MTB (motor torpedo boat) dutch flotillta...

[@ricokramer7716]

5:27. its a symbol of a torch.. a symbol of freedom.....

[@dracodarastrix4175]

My great grandfarther with his captain and crewmates took a not completely finished submarine from Den Helder and brought it to Great Britian where the vessel was finished and then actively took part in the war. Meanwhile my grandmother and my great grandmother had to flee Den Helder because of this action all those whom had been involved their families were wanted by the Nazies and NSBN (Dutch Nazies). They fled to the Jew districts in Amsterdam and hid inside by then the empty buildings. The Jews had already been exported. A member of the Dutch resistance by chance found them and then aided them by giving them food stamps through out the entire war. My grandpa later in the war also found them but didn't rat them out. Instead during the war his family were smuggling cigars which were made in Hoorn and smuggled by bike to Amsterdam. My grandpa family then also started to give aid to my grandma family. With the small fortune they earned through the Cigars. They also both have witnessed the terrible shooting at the Dam.

[@yellow7371]

Perhaps check out Why the Dutch voted for radical change by Hoog. It combines history, culture and contemporary issues. "Dutch people manipulate water, it's a story most know. But what we forget is the reverse direction of the relationship: how the water changed who the Dutch are themselves."

[@MC-NULTY]

My grandmother had a friend in her retirement home, he always had amazing stories of what happened during the war. He was sent to a work camp for forced Labour. He managed to escape and came across the allied forces. Because he spoke dutch English and Germany they asked him to assist with translations and help with interrogations of German officers.

[@lorettabes4553]

08:03 We still have the sirens! They go off for 2 minutes *every* first monday of the month.

[@loreyxiv8736]

Quick tip for the tricky words containing “ij” are pronounced as y. So it would be bevrydingsdag.

[@RikJanssen-nn7eb]

Yeah I see many foreigners struggle with that and the hard "g" so they either pronounce it the English way or the Flemish way.

[@jaila2806]

To keep this tradition alive and not take freedom for granted is one of the most important things. To remember those who've fought/died for my freedom, and that my own kids will have a safe space. In the city I live in, Tilburg, we have multiple places to gather for remembrance day. The one closest to my home is one specific for Scottish soldiers who've fought/died. So we not only remember/honour the Dutch, but also those who came to our rescue.

[@JanineBijlsma]

Both my parents knew the hardshipp and " hunger winter". Other family members died in WWII because of the Japenese( a prisonerscamp and the other at the Birma railroad). So I always remember at the 4th.

[@ricokramer7716]

my grandpa got taken to a concentration camp and he was never seen again... its sad, but my grandma never really shared stories about the war, i think it was just to traumatizing for her... what i do know is that grandpa was a pilot.... ive seen pictures, and know he was a good man..

[@johanrenema2433]

Thank you for this reaction!

[@RaymondvanGelderen]

I’m Dutch, and my mother was adopted by a Belgium family right after the war. She was 12 and Very malnourished. Belgium always ❤ really. She came back as a Flemish 18 year old hunk. Eating with knifes and forks with a heavy Flemish accent 😂 Yeh…

[@Ramotttholl]

My Granma used to tell us about how it was on Texel, How she couldnt go to the higher school because that was in Den Helder and taken over for the germans, and that they tried to help stranded pilots, and i checked some of it out turns out a Dam Buster Bomber crashed like a kilometer away from where she lived. (they as in the ppl from Texel) Wish i recorded it all, i also remember something about Stranded russians too. but don't remember what it was.

[@paulabehnken2107]

Mert Ned, to get some insight into what was going on in the UK during the war, watch the historically accurate series Foyle's War. The Nazis entered the Netherlands on May 10, 1940. Four days later, they bombed a good portion of Rotterdam, leveling it in a matter of minutes. The next day, Dutch forces surrendered and the royal family fled to England. From that day until May 5, 1945, the Dutch were under very strict German occupation. One hundred thousand Jews were sent to camps along with many other Dutch men sent to work in armament factories across Germany. On May 5, 1945, Allied troops began liberating Dutch towns, one at a time.

[@bvanlint731]

5:34 the symbol is the official symbol of liberation day (and the organizing committee) it gets used each year on the celebrations on the 5th of may. It is a torch, I believe, but I always see a little white bird in it The national memorial they show here is also televised live, which is how I have always watched it, but there are also a lot smaller (and often more specialized) monuments where they also organize memorials on the 4th of may. I have always been home, so I haven’t seen for myself, but I have heard that if you are on the train at 8 o’clock they stop the train for those two minutes as well and often stores close early too so the workers can attend a memorial if they wish.

[@daphneschuring5810]

My grandfather was also in the residence mapping the V2 where are but almost never talked about.

[@jurgenkersjes2150]

My grandpa was send to a workcamp in east Germany. I think everyone in the Netherlands have a history with WW2.

[@pruimj]

My father (91) was 10 years old in 1943, living in a small village in the province of Groningen near the border with Friesland, called Marum. In May of that year the country was in turmoil because of strikes against the German occupation. Near Marum there was a radar post of the German Air Force and some soldiers of the post found a few branches laid over the road. They reported that to the HQ in the City of Groningen and a new commander set out to Marum to have a look. In Marum some people were talking about the situation in the street, men and some school boys amongst whom my father, when the motorcade of the Germans noticed them. Since these kind of gatherings were forbidden they opened fire without warning. My father still hears the bullets flying over his head and in front of his eyes he sees again and again a man shot to death while he himself is fleeing from the bullets. Ten years old! That very same day 16 -mainly farmers- were rounded up and executed in rows of 4 as an example. Amongst them a boy of 13 years old! He sees what fate is waiting for him, throws out his clogs and runs for it. Only to be shot in the back. It is because of stories like this that the 4th of May has a special meaning for me and I am involved in the Remembrance Ceremony every time. Wherever I am in the world, I keep 2 minutes of silence at that moment. And it makes me realise again and again that you cannot take freedom for granted indeed. You have to work on it, yes, sometimes fight for it, every day again. Ask the Ukrainians...

[@edwardwiekens5113]

My late grandfather and his friend, walked down the street. around the time that the liberators chased the Germans out of the Netherlands. The Germans were driving on that street with 2 army trucks. then English planes arrived and shot at the Germans. my grandfather and his friend dived into the ditch to take shelter. When the trucks caught fire, my grandfather saw that the Germans were pulling liquor out of the trucks and throwing them in the ditch. to pick it up again later. My grandfather walks up to the Germans and says, should we help? the Germans say yes. so my grandfather gets the bottles of gin from the back of the trucks He gives the bottles of booze to his buddy. and he throws a bottle into the ditch where the Germans threw it. and the other bottle went into the ditch on the other side of the road. and this continued until the trucks were empty. the Germans thank my grandfather and his buddy and leave to return later. so did my grandfather and his friend. but when the Germans were out of sight, my grandfather and his buddy quickly went back. they walk to the ditch where they had thrown the other bottles. and put all the bottles in two jute bags. then they walked through the meadows where the cows were and other fields to my grandfather and grandmother's house. hid the booze in the chicken coop there. and when evening came my grandfather invited all the neighbors over. and I'm sure you can guess what happened that night!! a big party with lots of spirits!! my grandfather told me this when I was a boy of 11 years old. he said, and if you don't believe me. and he then took a book from the shelf. it was a book about the history of the region where they lived, during the Second World War. and yes.... there it was described. with my grandfather's name added! I was so proud of him. Now 35 years later I tell this story to my son. and I inherited the book from him after his death. you wanted a story. then you will get a story 👊🏽 Keep up the nice reaction.

[@darkrockyangel8376]

I had an older man and woman come to my school. and they told there storys. Always that day 4th of May im always thinking about my grand parends and i cry for the man that not cam home that day and there familys. im always happy to be my self and that i have woman rights here. but my family is the most inportant thing in my live and i lost to manny allredy. sorry for my bad english typing ;)

[@gert-jankater8678]

Even Schiphol Airport traffic control is participating in the two minutes silence . There is a video made by traffic control how they manage this

[@ricokramer7716]

11:25 yeah, thats why the dutch have the biggest tulip farms in the world.!! we survived on tulip bulbs in WW 2, bad joke but somewhat true XD

[@changthai-cq1rz]

My granddad died during the bombing of Rotterdam in #WWII My dad walked from Rotterdam to Groningen because of the Hunger winter.

[@robert_trumpeteer]

That symbol is the symbol of 4 & 5th of may. Used by the organisers of these days to remember the 4th and to celebrate the 5th. You'll see it everywhere.

[@ricokramer7716]

15:45. it doesn't matter where you are or what you're doing, at8 o clock you just stop doing what your doing and be silent for 2 minutes.. oh and i have never been to the ceremony in Amsterdam.. yet... but yeah at some point in live you have to be there.... its like Mekka to alot of dutchies haha

[@ricokramer7716]

freedom means what it means... to be freeee..!!!!

[@DenUitvreter]

"IJ" is one vowel, very much like the "Y". I don't care about the correct pronunciation but it makes it more readable. The 2 minutes is generally well observed. Food deliverers standing next to their bike at the side of the street, in my football team the loudest party animal low life would always bring an alarm clock and then we all stood still silently on the pitch and the joggers and skeelerers around would stop too. But it is in crisis, last year the government hijacked it to make it about Zelensky. Certain ideological groups have tried to claim it politically for years. This year a small group wanted to make it about Gaza and threatened to disturb it so were ridiculouus safety matters and only a few thousand people showed up. The Netherlans lived under the most horrific dictatorship for 5 years, had a famine on top and about 3% of the population was killed. The bombings and the discomfort were really not the biggest deal.

[@reddragonready]

Don't know where you live but in my city..nobody but the people on the square where the official thing is stop for 2 minutes

[@odetoclear]

idk if you've heard of 'de damschreeuwer' where someone just... screamed during the 2 minutes of silence for no reason. a fence fell over at the same time and people started panicking and most people thought a terrorist attack was happening, especially since paris was just hit by a bunch of those...

[@blodekont5458]

3:59 My grandfather and his father had a coaster, and they helped English escape from Dunkerk, here they are called The England Sailors. The ones who helped the British troops escape. Later in the fiorst year of the war the Nazi's confiscadet is boat and sailed with it to Tromso, up North in Norway, and used as a coal carrier. In 1943 my grandfsather went underground in hiding, for the NAzi's had orderre dthat every able man to be working in Germany in factory for the war effoert. his sister in law was a nurse in Indonesia in a Japs camp, where she aided thos who became victims of the Japanese Nazi's over there then.

[@Isdezenaambezet]

My grandfather turned 18 during the war and also had to hide to avoid being sent to work in germany. Last year my aunt found a letter from the French consulate thanking him for services during the war. Both my grandparents had died by then so we will probably never know what he did to get an official letter of thanks from the french government. He always claimed to have helped the resistance but we always thought he was just talking shit.

[@FacelessJanus]

Noationake Herdenking = Commemoration Day. (Remembring those who have fallen during WWII) I do know about the poppy thing, but why a poppy ?? Why not a rose, a marigold, a tulip a ..... ? The symbol is composed of a dove on top of a torch, in Red, White and Blue. It is our National symbol for Freedom.

[@bvdheide1975]

the Poppy is a big thing in the UK but it's originally about WW1. It's a reference to a poem called "in Flanders Fields". In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie, In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields.

[@gizmohoebe3584]

Actually it is not only he Dutch ppl who had lost there life also the fallen soldiers who liberated and later it became the Dutch soldiers who lost there life in any war. And we do have freedom but i do not feel it since i got ptss from my army time and i even still stand in pose on 4th of may and i resigned from the army in 2000

[@snroos1860]

Yes, this is special. I feel this too. But what is even more speciaal is this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp2mdnaHobFrbKc Dutch families adopting graves from foreign soldiers (Americans in this video) that fought (and died) for OUR freedom! This video can't be shown enough.

[@marcelrenes2435]

On remembrance day everybody stops everything at 20:00 and are silent for 2 minutes to remember the fallen of WW2 and the ones after it. Sadly not all respect it. Our Turkish and Moroccan immigrants don't respect it at all. That's the main reason why there are troubles between Dutch and even 3rd generation Turks and Moroccans. We feel they trample on our souls when they can't even stop their actions and above all don't use their carhorns and mouths for just two minutes a year.

[@BabzV]

My grandparents survived WW2 in heavily bombed Rotterdam.

[@nielsvandriesten4386]

Back in 90 earl 2000 yes. After we enteren the euro and soo called union absolutely not. Since a hand fullt of People dictate oude daily lives nog and these govermentms have too agree or face a financiële penalty pand by the very own citzen

[@robertrauter8459]

oooo mate you managed to realy crucify the word bevrijdingsdag....aaaa it was BAD

[@reddragonready]

Whole load of poppycock! The last remembrance they had to put a cap of 10 000 on the Dam because they were afraid of Hamas lovers destroying the moment. ( People who are on the street every week calling for the destruction of Israel!!! )Everybody had to get a "ticket" in advance ( first time) and supersecurity was put in place. Only 5000 actually showed up. Most of the country nobody pays attention to those two minutes. Btw..Netherlands lost percentage wise more Jews than Germany.

[@LalaDepala_00]

None of your points make sense in relation to remembrance day. And I would say it is smart to put a limit on the crowd when there are active threats being made.

[@jsb7975]

He has a point ofcourse, and peace loving people DO know !

[@bvdheide1975]

This is not an accurate post. The tickets for the memorial are an issue (I live close by and we went this year). It was better in the past but the organization does need to take measures to not have the ceremonies disrupted. It's not ideal but a necessity these days. It's correct that most Jews were killed per capita in NL/Amsterdam. I'm not sure how you intend to use that argument, but I would suggest to use this fact or argument in a respectful manner. Especially since we (the locals) share a lot of the guilt that the jews were deported. Ours is not the story of only resistance but mostly a story of collaboration.

[@LalaDepala_00]

@@Sandra-Gibora OP Is literally argueing that remembrance day is pointless, because we lost a lot of jews. That's.. literally what remembrance day is for.

[@Sandra-Gibora]

@@LalaDepala_00 At the Dam jews are not even named! Which is why I always watch Remembrance Day coming from Westerbork.

[@tonolijve4978]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_famine_of_1944%E2%80%931945