Reactors Reaction To Joel & The Hospital Scene On The Last Of Us Episode 9 | Mixed Reactions

Reactors reaction to seeing the Last Of Us hospital scene, where Joel has to go through an entire group of fireflies in order to save Ellie, on episode 9 of The Last Of Us
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[@Julia-qv5ls]

When Joel said “Unhook her” was the first time I heard Pedro’s Mando voice. I thought it would be an issue throughout but wasn’t.

[@rockerojerez349]

Yeah the videogames wasn't

[@TheDigitalThreat]

I cant explain it but for me his "mando" has never sounded at all like him for me. If they didnt tell us from the start who was cast as mando, I seriously wouldnt have figured it out.

[@DawnoftheDead1]

These are different Pedro’s.

[@jamaljames9331]

I just realized if it ever came down to it, Mando would hands down do something similar as Joel did for Ellie in order to save Grogu!

[@trevorstockton2516]

@@jamaljames9331 he literally did man. Took out a whole group of people to save grogu.

[@raycasteel2664]

I got 2 daughters and a son , if I wasn't the cause of the apocalypse that ended our world then it's also not my obligation to let my children die to save it. I'm with Joel 💯

[@MidnightWanderer]

Agreed 100% Sadly though there are going to be serious consequences due to that action. "And the cycle of revenge continues."

[@raycasteel2664]

Agreed

[@codyrawiri-pettit5526]

Humanity is already lost. Millions have died. The cure would of made them try cover up this part of history to start again. But history is like a curse, it will repeat no matter how much we try to forget it.

[@uuu1966]

those are probably the best words I've heard about what Joel did. Thank you.

[@quadeappenheimer8135]

@@MidnightWanderer literally what I was about to say. And the cycle of revenge begins

[@lindaouellette6656]

Marlene in episode 1. “We all know what you’re capable of” Ellie “what are they capable of?” Everybody fooled around and found out!!!!!😢

[@Sirvikrail]

Funny thing in the game, if you don’t shoot the doctor and go up to him, Joel yanks the scalpel from the doctors hand and rams it in his neck .

[@octahu935]

You can use any of your guns on the doctor though. Even the flamethrower

[@derrick7040]

I threw a bottle at him cause I didn't wanna kill him but it didn't matter apparently

[@darthhull85]

@@octahu935 the best choice

[@greyelf1537]

@@octahu935 Something about Joel using a flamethrower on a guy who's within close proximity to the person he's trying to rescue is hilarious. Ellie waking up: Why do I have 3rd degree burns? Joel: Bruh, would you believe a fucking DRAGON attacked the hospital? I barely got us out of there!

[@batgoat4406]

@@greyelf1537 😂

[@DrWatson4]

Joel wasn’t lying when he said they’ve stopped searching for a cure it just wasn’t the way that he was implying it was 😂😂

[@kmills18]

As a father to two daughters I would make the same decision that Joel made so fast.

[@kmills18]

Not even a single hint of the slightest remorse either. My children are the world to me. What's left of humanity would just have to figure out another plan for a cure that doesn't involve them.

[@mickeymouse7726]

But then you've signed your own death sentence because you were selfish and didn't think about other people

[@kmills18]

@@mickeymouse7726 It wasn't even a guarantee it would work... It was a guarantee she would die though... Also, even if there was a %100 success rate for a cure, I would still choose my child over what's left of that depraved fictional world. The right decision was made even with part in consideration.

[@DrWatson4]

@@kmills18 I don’t have kids but I agree 100% it was a theory that it might work they had no proof that it might work it was just theoretically if she’s immune and we remove and multiply what makes her immune that should work. But with a 100% fatality rate nope I’ve got my kids I’ve got a nice self sustaining village I’m not doing nothing. If it was just a blood sample they needed and the procedure was non lethal then yeah sure but otherwise no way

[@myst2212]

@@mickeymouse7726 fuck the other people, there is enough left in the world for me and my kids to live off of, even if I have to share 1 can of food per week, find someone else

[@ParzivalTheThird]

Joel’s final decision was absolutely, 100%, entirely selfish of him. That doesn’t mean I didn’t want him to do it, because just like him, I love Ellie.

[@glenndavis5381]

It's not ok to kill an innocent person...even if it would save a million.

[@dvdbox360]

​@@glenndavis5381 well he did kill multiple people just to save one person but that doesn't mean you're wrong i think both choices are wrong and right at same time "damn if you do damn if you don't"

[@callumnorris3738]

@@glenndavis5381plus it doesn’t help that it’s a fact there is no way for a cure to happen with a fungal virus as even though Ellie’s immune it wouldn’t work as a cure for others

[@Afton_Robotics_1987]

selfish or not, its the right thing to do. In the game it was proved that the test could have failed, and since doctors didnt have the technology working at the time, Ellie would have died for nothing. Also another thing to note was that the Fireflies were going to kill Joel, so he had to fight if it came to it.

[@thomasjones4265]

Have to love the close up on Abby's dad as he laid dead😂😂 I just learned today 1 of those nurses at the very end was the actress who played Abby In Part 2...

[@intellygent-alienking5651]

Laura Bailey

[@thomasjones4265]

@@intellygent-alienking5651 That's her name? Thank you...

[@nicolasrodriguesdossantos1881]

And she actually was one of the nurses in the first game, so, double easter egg

[@vladimirvanvhorno357]

Laura Bailey was just the voice actor of Abby. They cast another person for the acting of Abby

[@k_u_e_r_i_s_u_e]

who was the dad? the doctor?

[@Vattgh3rn]

A lot of people ask if Joel did the right thing or if Marlene did the right thing not a lot of people ask if "there was a right thing to do"

[@TheThreeHeadedDragon]

Exactly!

[@Afton_Robotics_1987]

Lets be completely honest, both were right and wrong. Marlene wanted to save the world, but sacrifice her goddaughter. Joel wanted the same, but wanted to save his adopted daughter. Its proved that Joel was right as the surgery was said to have a 90% chance of failure, and Ellie would have died for nothing. Ofc, there was no right thing to do, but what Joel did was the next best thing, regardless of how ruthless he was.

[@DoranGale]

Marlene, when you’re choosing someone to take a fourteen-year-old girl to her death, maybe you don’t go with the killer who lost a daughter of about the same age. This does make you look at that moment in E1 differently: Tess told her they’d kill Ellie if the other Fireflies didn’t give them all they wanted, and Marlene agreed instantly because she didn’t want anyone getting attached. Oops.

[@johnleoalgo9692]

CDG, when you're making an assumption (that Marlene knew full well about Joel's true capabilities and that she knew that Ellie would have to die for the cure to be made, which is absolutely not what Marlene obviously preferred) that is not well thought-out, maybe you don't go posting comments on KZbin like you know what you're talking about.

[@Afton_Robotics_1987]

Killer? Tbh everyone at the time were killers. It was literally everyone's only job to do to survive.

[@ReapersLove69]

any father who would choose the world over their little girl isnt a father, joel became her parent and did what he had to do

[@whitemamba061]

even though what he did had extreme consequences…he came all that way and he wasn’t gonna lose another daughter so i’ll be with joels decision, he cared for ellie so much and eventually she then knew that and was able to believe him

[@jamaljames9331]

Joel's decision is a topic that has been talked about ever since the game debuted 10 years ago, and I'm so happy more people get to experience it in the TV medium! This debate will keep on going for more years to come!

[@kvrmv4k476]

Absolutely nuts that it’s been 10 years already! How time flies.

[@scailliet]

@@kvrmv4k476 Right? You realize that a whole decade has past by since the game's initial release. You are now a whole decade older, since first playing the game on the PS3. 🙃

[@hammer-0]

@@scailliet I miss the original days when stuff like the last of us came out

[@scailliet]

@@hammer-0 I'm sure a Unicorn like that will come along again soon enough.

[@hammer-0]

@@scailliet hopefully

[@visualartsbyjr2464]

I never liked the Fireflies. They basically turned into what they apposed (imo). All this could have been avoided if they let Ellie make an informed choice and let Joel say his goodbyes…. Or if you want; told him a lie that she knew the danger of the operation. Instead, let Joel burn the place down. Great compilation!

[@nicolasrodriguesdossantos1881]

Yes. And we obviously would not like it bacause we want the bad decisions

[@Hollyclown]

It made it worse since she wasn’t knocked unconscious this time. They just didn’t tell her and put her to sleep. They had it coming.

[@jamaljames9331]

Ellie was the only person who could’ve talked Joel into being okay with it. The only thing is, he would’ve likely killed himself the moment he left the hospital if that scenario were to play out

[@kingsakie132]

Any girl dad or father who lost a daughter in Joel situation would do the same anybody would do the same if they went through such a journey with Ellie.

[@RatedRLoquender]

And any girl dad or father who lost a father in Abby situation would do the same anybody would do the same if they went through such a journey with your dad.

[@cosmicmermaid8185]

Ok, but what if your daughter was the one who needed the cure? Would you sacrifice Ellie in order to get it?

[@nanmi2476]

@@RatedRLoquender stop with the whataboutism 🥱

[@hammer-0]

@@RatedRLoquender you literally repeated what they said for no reason but in different words just to mention abby 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@maybeitsyou1317]

@@cosmicmermaid8185 The fireflies didn't have any plan to make a cure. That bullshit Marlene said was a pipe dream. Without the facilities or the staff to actually make it happen. What they wanted to do amounted to a human sacrifice. Not only that they kidnapped her and tried to murder her without consent. If people want to make comparisons with Abby they should realize Abbys father was a piece of shit trying to murder a little girl for no reason then to feel like he "Did something". And he got what was coming to him didn't he? I guess Abby felt the need to take some T because her father was sure a pussy.

[@WLDB]

As a father I would do the same thing - even knowing what comes in part 2.

[@davidmole8299]

I won't watch that episode you're talking of..I'll skip to the next chapter 😢

[@aaditkhan728]

Part 2 was justified though.

[@jackburton2946]

​@@aaditkhan728 what, does mean Ellie deserves to die too in part 3 because maybe one of those people she killed in LOUS 2 was a Dad.

[@aaditkhan728]

@@jackburton2946 you're forgetting that she also killed an infant baby and a dog...so yeah.

[@venomlayton1394]

@@aaditkhan728 first off the Mutt attacked her, she killed it in self Defense, and the baby she has no idea of, so really it’s not her fault, it’s like what pewdiepie said “Ellie didn’t kill them, they slipped in the shower”

[@DarkElfLover]

My biggest thing is this could've been avoided if they just waited for Ellie to make the choice herself. Both to get confirmation she wanted to sacrifice herself and to give Joel some form of closure.

[@AlexTommo]

16th reaction was the best. It was raw, felt like they had no idea what to expect and were shocked and almost disgusted by Joel's actions. With most of the others, it's just the same old "I know what's coming and I'm gonna be smug about it because I played the game"

[@arcey2201]

I love how the gamer's reacting to that scene is trying so hard not to spoil or even mention a thing 😭

[@StinkFingerr]

Joel did exactly the right thing. My only complaint is that He was a clumsy Liar.

[@jimboG100]

He had no choice I guess.

[@aaditkhan728]

Ellie would be mad if he told her the truth,that's why he didn't do it.

[@ViktorTy]

I think the same. He just should have told her that they wanted to kill her without knowing if the cure will work out.

[@shamans2]

He would lose her if he told her the truth. It'd all be in vain.

[@aaditkhan728]

@@shamans2 doesn't make it any better though,which is why I think part 2 is justified for joel.

[@Manchita1694]

The fireflies had it very easy, he was just one man, and they couldn't beat him, they are a totally defeated group, they never saw that great army that they promised and Joel knew it, and he despised them. Everything he did was always out of love

[@scailliet]

And after this massacre and the death of Marlene, the Fireflies are effectively finished after this.

[@stressoutspiderman]

Sellfish love.

[@maybeitsyou1317]

@@stressoutspiderman Nah, selfish ones are the fireflies. Willing to tear open a childs brain just because it MIGHT lead to a cure. Not even asking for her consent, just knocking her out and murdering her. Then telling themselves they are selfless warriors for the human race. That they did a mercy. Fireflies are the epitomy of selfish morons. Without Joel they wouldn't have even had a chance to commit attempted murder. Besides have you seen the way humans act on this show? Why would anyone want to save them?

[@aaditkhan728]

​@@scaillietwe'll see about that.

[@AndrewBrownballroomdru]

Everyone forgets that Joel I believe was a veteran. A veteran in 2003 fought in Iraq.

[@furiousgamerxz5141]

I thought Tommy was the veteran?

[@BuhUhNuhUh]

@@furiousgamerxz5141 they both were but tommy wanted to follow in his footsteps

[@nickwilliams3050]

i loved how joel just had no emotion going through this. like a robot. seeing in black and white .

[@carlbrucefroehlich3986]

If Marlene was so sure it was the choice Ellie would have made, she would have given her the choice in the first place

[@mikdoubled]

True!

[@MALLYGEEZ1]

Exacy! I think Marlene left Joel no choice but to kill everyone. Marlene just assumed Ellie would want them to cut her brain out. That is a huge assumption. How about ask her. Marlene saying she thinks Ellie would want to do what's right? Why is it right? It's right in Marlene eyes. Ellie didn't think she was gonna die. She said after she would follow him anywhere. Why in the world is the first thing they want to do is cut this kids brain out? No testing her blood first of anything? Marlene had no intention of finding out if Ellie would have a problem with any of this. The hospital was barley functional. They didn't even know if they had enough power to finish the surgery. So they have no idea if it would even work at all as a cure. What will they actually do with the vaccine if it works. Would they really give it to everyone? And how will they mass produce it. No way in the world a hour after getting to the hospital. And not telling her are they cutting her brain out.

[@theeLonelyRedPanda]

mmmhmmmmm i posted this on another reaction channel and another comment here but here goes again. if they had been studying ellie for her entire life, that's 14 years of study. It would be a completely different ball game. But running one test saying oh it's her brain we're gonna take everything her body has to offer, off jump is mad stupid. How tf you gonna go off rip, and just harvest everything that means you only have one batch, one chance that's mad. You need tests after tests, hypothesis after hypothesis and then testing your theories failing, starting over. BACK TO FORMULA OSBORN! like c'mon

[@MALLYGEEZ1]

@@theeLonelyRedPanda Exactly! The doctor was a moron.

[@bluebucket703]

This show showed that Marlene was definitely not to be trusted considering that she never paid Joel back and took his gear, and tess sacrifice also being worthless if ellie died in that operation

[@julianstier3821]

He did the right thing….never mess with a man’s ability to love unconditionally

[@ricardovazquezbarrios1005]

Part 1: “It can be for nothing” Part 2: “ALL THIS WAS FOR NOTHING!”

[@Hunterese123]

I mean, doesn't this ending prove it was for nothing? How does Part 2 make that worse? lol

[@Nice_Guy3012]

Hyped for these reactions. I've always believed Joel did save the world. But that's because Ellie *was* his world. The Last of Us really deals with the morality of a post apocalyptic world really well.

[@aaditkhan728]

Sure...just don't get mad when part 2 comes out in maybe season 2 &3,cause it's pretty justified.

[@Nice_Guy3012]

@@aaditkhan728 Eh, I'm already mad at Part 2. But maybe the show will handle Abby just a little bit better.

[@aaditkhan728]

@@Nice_Guy3012 I mean either way if they handle abby way better or not,what happened to joel in part 2 was clearly justified,like yeah sure joel saved Ellie who was his world and but he unknowingly made abby an orphan and him and Ellie both destroyed her world if you know what I mean,so yeah I have more sympathy for abby than I have for Ellie. Remember,actions have consequences,and joel literally made abby an orphan,like Marlene would've come after Ellie no doubt about that,but I don't think that's the same case for the doctor,so yeah what happened to joel was justified especially from abby's pov.

[@justatypicalyoutuber8402]

​@Aadit Khan Neil and the show's director said they'll be making changes to season 2. I still expect Joel to die but I doubt they'll kill him off that early and that badly.

[@aaditkhan728]

@@justatypicalyoutuber8402 I mean either way,it would still be justified,maybe they would show her backstory sooner than it actually was in the game,I'm just really excited to see abby cause she quickly became my second favourite character in the game after her backstory.

[@ilovesupershotgun5200]

The world took something from Joel, so Joel took something from the world

[@aaditkhan728]

And what's gonna happen in season 2 or maybe 3 is absolutely justified.

[@dday906]

I was really waiting for a quick after credit scene of a young girl walking in on the dead doctor...dunno why? 🤔😂

[@Tony-Ravens45]

Me too, and i am not ready for season 2 even tho I know what’s coming

[@da_riceboy161]

“Bro pressed R2 too fast.” 💀

[@Lordofshu]

I was looking forward to this compilation! Big ups!

[@fourien4584]

Joel made the right choice. If humanity does not give Ellie the choice to sacrifice herself for it then humanity does not deserve to be saved.

[@leanthonymoore5818]

So Abby made the right decision too

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

@@leanthonymoore5818 Yes and no

[@williamsummerson1204]

I was never able to have children but with that being said I would have done the same thing as Joel did. What if something happened during the surgery, Joel was not willing to let that happen to his Babygirl.

[@ds2561]

Also I love the implication from the doctors saying that "do we have enough power?" That even they're unsure that the cure wouldn't be possible since it's technology untouched since 2003

[@scailliet]

Joel had just gotten his daughter back... effectively... and there ain't nothing and nobody that's gonna take that away from him, a second time.

[@aaditkhan728]

Just wait for season 2 or maybe 3 but don't be mad...cause everything that's gonna happen is totally justified.

[@scailliet]

@@aaditkhan728 I know already. I played the game.

[@aaditkhan728]

@@scailliet then it was justified for what happened to joel in the second part,like sure he didn't wanna lose another daughter,but he made another daughter an orphan in the process,which doesn't make it right in any way so yeah,joel got what was coming to him from abby,and besides Ellie,abby was my second most favourite character in the game,cause she lost way more than Ellie.

[@jadenmcmillan4306]

​@@aaditkhan728I think ellie suffered more, she didn't know her parents, her only friend died

[@aaditkhan728]

@@jadenmcmillan4306 I mean yeah Ellie obviously suffered more,but what happened to joel was justified.

[@FBZOMBlES]

Even if Ellie agreed to be killed, she’s a traumatized 14 year old. That’s not a decision you allow a child to make. It’s why the discussion around “Ellie’s choice” is completely irrelevant.

[@Pandaemoni]

I agree that choice is irrelevant, but that's a complicated question. If choice were relevant, who gets to choose if not Ellie? Marlene was put in charge of Ellie by Ellie's mother. Joel was only put in charge by Marlene herself, and she thought that would be a short trip across the city, like two days. On the other hand, Joel is emotionally closer to Ellie (whether that is a good or a bad thing). There are no great choices. There are also times when we do not allow the people affected a say in their fate. In episode 2, the mycologist recommended the military bomb Jakarta, a city of 10 million people (including children) and obviously no one being killed would have consented. That was a shock to hear that recommendation, but I don't think most people in the audience thought she was a monster for recommending it. (And the military also bombed Boston, according to Tess and Ellie's conversation later that episode.) From a story standpoint, the game isn't about Ellie's choice...the writers want the audience to struggle with the choice themselves: whether you can sacrifice one person's life to save the lives of many (maybe save all of humanity from extinction). What Ellie would have chosen not only isn't relevant to that, but it might relieve the audience of the hard work of thinking the issue through and instead just back whatever Ellie wants. So, from a writing perspective, it's for the best that Ellie never got to make a choice, as it is ultimately the audience's struggle makes the ending memorable.

[@kvrmv4k476]

@@PandaemoniThe reason choice is irrelevant is because it’s a decision that nobody is really fit to make. Nobody is of sound mind in the world they live. It’s unfair, yet fair at the same time. It is simply just too complicated to come to a sound conclusion. That’s what makes the ending so gripping and dramatic, imo. There’s just no right or wrong answer.

[@LeftyConspirator]

My thought precisely. Sure, it sucks for Joel to make the choice for Ellie in that situation, but to be fair - *his* choice meant Ellie gets to live and find her own causes to fight for, while Marlene's choice meant Ellie had to die for *her* cause. With no say of her own. My theory is that the Fireflies removed Joel from the situation and got Ellie to the operating room before he came to specifically to prevent his input. Joel isn't an idiot, he realized this and he knew that could only mean Marlene wasn't convinced Ellie would have agreed to sacrifice herself. Also, when you are dealing with someone like Joel Miller, just kill him while you have the chance. No reason to let him regain consciousness from that flash-bang and the whack on the head and then give him every reason to go Terminator. That's just setting yourself up to fail.

[@kiwigirljacks]

@@Pandaemoni who gets to make that decision!? Ellie does! They’ve lived in a post apocalyptic world for 20 years. Keeping her safe for a few more until she’s old enough to make the decision, isn’t a stretch. But the Fireflies would never agree to that and would kill Joel and anyone else who got in their way. So Joel killing them isn’t an issue for me personally. They took the choice away first. Even if his motives were selfish. He’s been a parent. He knows children can’t make that kind of decision.

[@Pandaemoni]

@@kiwigirljacks I respect that, I fear that would have made for an anticlimactic ending to the show. "Well, Joel, we're afraid we'd have to kill her to make the cure, so please bring her back in six years." Fade to black. Roll credits. When she came back she'd either consent or not, and again, the writers wanted the audience to struggle with the "Trolley Problem" not to have them sit back and watch Ellie struggle with it. They wanted the audience to be, in effect, in the position of a parent having to make a judgment for Ellie, not simply, passively do whatever Ellie wants. So they gave us surrogate parental figures on both sides to sympathize with, Marlene the stand-in mom and Joel the stand-in dad, one on each side of the issue. As I said, from a writing perspective, the show wasn't about consent, the best they could do was have both sides ignore the issue of Ellie consenting, and otherwise just never have anyone expressly ask Ellie what she wants (although I think they implied she _probably_ would consent, but no one really knows). The flaw in the writing, in my very subjective opinion, is that it's all too easy to assume the Firefly doctor is a quack who didn't explore any other alternatives methods of developing a cure, but I think it's the same problem: exploring other possibilities would be _realistic,_ but not a better "story." No one wants to see an episode dedicated to a lot of medical R&D on different possible avenues to develop a cure, or even an extended montage that winds up back at the same place: "we have to kill her to make the cure" (especially when, as I said above, getting her consent or refusal to consent would ruin what the writers were going for in the ending.)

[@scrubbyG]

Joel did the right thing as a guardian. If anyone has a kid and these people don’t give you a choice they say how it’s supposed to happen and you have to live with it, anyone with a kid will do what Joel did because no one will let their kid die for a 50/50 chance.

[@marciocouto3543]

in my opinion, is not about right or wrong, but nature of actions themselves.

[@bluebucket703]

That's the beauty of last of us with their conflicting morals

[@misterFutile]

I played the game in 2013 when it came out, and I love how people are talking about the end of this season the same way people debated about the game. My personal view of Joel's choice hasn't changed. Neither the fireflies or Joel gave Ellie a voice to express her own choice. However, Ellie is still in fact a 14 year old child suffering from PTSD and obviously based on her reactions at the beginning of the episode she wasn't in her right mind to make an end-of-life decision. She deserved to live her life until she was a full grown adult capable of making that decision for herself. Joel ultimately made the right decision for Ellie's benefit, even if he damns the world in the process.

[@TaariqMoosa]

When that score starts...damn you feel it bruh.

[@free_re_fells]

It’s all about perspective. Which is why I love Last of Us Pt II. Yeah he’s the protagonist to some, but what about the dozens of innocent people he just slaughtered to save Ellie? Remember episode 8 when that little girl who’s father was killed by Joel was so full of rage? How many fathers did he just murder in that short time? It’s gonna catch up to him.

[@Shockkings0714]

None of them were innocent

[@MCouldhavebeen-lu4jx3bt4p]

@@Shockkings0714Neither is Joel but you people treat him like a saint.

[@Shockkings0714]

@@MCouldhavebeen-lu4jx3bt4p Why bring up Joel? That's irrelevant. We were talking about the fireflies.

[@ronaldocaire6844]

Joel did not kill her father, it was a lie, David killed him to feed his people and made the girl eat her own father

[@justatypicalyoutuber8402]

But the way they fucking connected Part II was outrageous. How were we supposed to know the doctor was Abby's dad? You might argue and say "but that's the beauty of it. Our actions will always ripple through everyone that could be possibly affected without us knowing at all" but fuck that. How would you feel if you killed a random NPC in GTA V and have that random NPC's son/daughter kill Michael, Trevor and Franklin in GTA VI? Feels dumb, doesn't it? That's literally how they connected Part II to Part I.

[@dovelove5427]

The world took everything from Joel, so Joel took everything from the world.

[@myamdane6895]

7:24 dude on the right said exactly what I was thinking, that scene reminded me of Walter’s first kill without hesitation

[@Remember.The.Creek24]

Very glad to see Joel's actor and Ellies actress.

[@kimberlym-w9926]

As Joel is a father figure to Ellie; he needed to make a parent decision. Also that he knows from his heart and what he is believes is right thing to do!! He fell in love with Ellie as a daughter because he couldn’t save his Sarah. Also they will going to kill her after the surgery is done; it is not an option!

[@Flufferz626]

My dad is 65 years old. Never played the game. Watched the show. He said he would do it for his 2 baby girls (our mom passed away).

[@Gylfie70]

People can not tell me they would just offer up their child if they were immune, to take the chance that what they think could be a cure could ACTUALLY be a cure. I only heard "the Doctor THINKS" from Marleen is that enough for people to freely let their child go. She saved him, now he is saving her. And the biggest argument is, Ellie wasn't told she would lose her life, everyone can say she would have chosen to do it, but after the love these two have formed for each other, how do we know. I have only watched the play through for both part and never thought I would ever play this story, thank you to HBO for that. March 28th, I can't freaking wait.

[@theeLonelyRedPanda]

exactly "thinks" if they had been studying ellie for her entire life that would've been completely different ball game, that's 14 years of study. But running one test saying oh it's her brain we're gonna take everything her body has to offer, off jump is mad stupid. How tf you gonna go off rip, and just harvest everything that means you only have one batch, one chance that's mad. You need tests after tests, hypothesis after hypothesis and then testing your theories failing, starting over. BACK TO FORMULA OSBORN! like c'mon.

[@kamranhussain2204]

This is just like when Mando went berserk to save Grogu.

[@GustavoCorsoDalben]

Yes, it isnt a guarateed cure, theres a lot of audios in the game that say that theres more that came before Ellie, the person always die and they never found a cure...

[@bigblue3221]

This would have made his decision more justified

[@willfanofmanyii3751]

Incorrect, the audio says the Fireflies tried to make a cure from those who were infected, but the infection killed them before the tests could produce a result.

[@jasonjackson33]

They never had an immune person. With Ellie the cure could have been made.

[@lsplan23]

Let's go pt2 !!!! Can't wait

[@damianstarks3338]

Love all these reactions.

[@theinstructor3626]

He went in...great stuff bro.

[@WebHead18]

"you pressed R2 so fast!" lmfao

[@Nathanct43]

I totally missed the part where Ellie asked if Marlene was ok.

[@samynator0904]

The thing is, probably the most reasonable thing for both Joel and Marlene was letting Ellie decide, but both of them didn't want to risk Ellie deciding the opposite of what they wanted, so both of them were wrong in the end

[@DeFyYing]

Damn good point

[@anonimotimidors]

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[@DaemonWolf-wg5ln]

I can see why Joel is the good guy, and can also see why he's the bad guy. He's a good guy because Ellie didn't know it would kill her (at this time) and they didn't tell her. It's not their choice to make. On the other side, it's not Joel's choice to make either. And sacrificing 1 person to save humanity is questionable, but understandable. It was a selfish decision on Joel's end, but I can't blame him either.

[@giorgospapanaklis4000]

This comes Harder in for those who did not play the game..... Great Season !!!!!!!!! 😍

[@RatedRLoquender]

Same as Joel, same as Abby, I would´ve done the same thing.

[@cjmars822]

In this scene, we see Joel doing his impression of a broken XBox: he don’t play no games

[@sayakatakanashi3697]

Bruh , you are the only dude who has to be in the mix reactions , other ppl do it without being there , it is kind of annoying when you talk over their dialogue...

[@ujang3288]

Finally someone said this

[@meginmd]

Right? It's like he doesn't need to be there. Just let us watch the reactions.

[@aquaberry6296]

Or just go watch the other reactors videos 🤷‍♂️

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

+Sayaka Takanashi Blame copyright for that

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

@@ujang3288 Blame copyright

[@landismithCOJ]

Joel couldn't go through that again.

[@Faoludi97]

Joel become jonathan wick damn i loved it

[@leviortiz6376]

The show barely ended and I’m already rewatching it😂😂😭

[@Hollyclown]

Peter Griffin: “This is worse then that one time I worked security at the hospital.”

[@Christian_Ada1]

What? Marlene not a bad person? Yes she was she broke promises She was definitely willing to kill both Ellie as an infant and her mom ..then tells her mom "I can't Kill you" proceeds to shoot her than willing to kill Ellie who is 14 not knowing for a fact if the cure was actually going to work Marlene was not a good person

[@StinkFingerr]

Face it. Marlene was the Pits.

[@dangerousdylan6262]

Some people allow their ideology to override their own morality....

[@LeftyConspirator]

Marlene was too committed to her cause. That's why she couldn't risk giving Ellie a say in her own fate.

[@andalilbitqueer]

You shoyld really stop looking at morality as such a simplistic binary; she's neither good, nor bad, just a complex and nuanced character who did bad things for what she believed to be good.

[@aaditkhan728]

​@@andalilbitqueershe did the wrong thing for the right reasons.

[@Cabur_Skirata]

Joel made a decision, not to save THE world, but to save HIS world.

[@sonyfusion1994]

Why should he save THE world for an experimental procedure.

[@83gemm]

Joel did the only thing he could do. And it’s unconscionable. One of the most immoral choices in the whole thing was Marlene not killing him while he was out. What? She’s gonna just have him dropped off on a highway after losing another kid? What kind of cruelty is that? And she had to know he wasn’t going to ho for it.

[@GruniLP]

Fun Fact: One of the Nurses is Laura Bailey ! ;)

[@ordersmilitant5998]

Way I've seen it ... humanity isn't worth saving, but people are.

[@Kenvanhey74]

From this perspective. Joel did the ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THING for Ellie.....but a tiny part of me somewhere inside hated him a little bit for what he did as well. Just a tiny bit. But I would have done the same thing.......make sense?!?

[@YodaMan.]

for humanity? probably not. for himself? in a world that took everything and destroyed him. abso-fking-lutely

[@antoniorakestraw7590]

Joel wild 'n out.

[@yaumilikhwan306]

the summoning ABBYYYYYYYYY

[@shawnsmith2610]

Joel said I'll be back.

[@martinmillar7137]

Joel did wit anyone would... Can i just say.. that sequence was absolutely amazing.... beautiful... Imo ots one of the best scenes ever put on film .. ❤it was spectacular

[@JULIASMITH-eg9kp]

Yes they should have asked Ellie after telling her she is going to die and the cure might not work.

[@MaxO1MSK]

Doctor's and Nurse's:NO WAIT WE CAN SAVE SO MANY PEOPLE JUST FOR THE PRICE FOR ONE LIFE. Joel:I missed the part where that's my problem... Me:If i had a child I would've done the same.

[@BaronVonChickenpants]

There’s no “right” answer…..it’s all about perspective. That’s what makes the game and the show so great. That being said, even if the Fireflies did successfully make a vaccine, it’s too late to save the world because there’s no global infrastructure anymore. The only people that would get the vaccine would be other Fireflies or they’d use it to get people to join them. They would never give it to FEDRA members or any citizens in the QZ who supported them. The vaccine would just be another tool to help them win their war.

[@ExUSSailor]

Joel was right.

[@ExUSSailor]

Ultimately, the human race is doomed, and, any effort to save it is a waste.

[@Nouseforaname69]

This part was filmed in my hometown

[@joieknox6447]

The thing is you’re never playing the hero, it’s a world without heroes, you’re playing a broken man, a man who lost his daughter and seen the world burn, he was never the hero, he’s just a broken father.

[@Ozgur72]

2:15 Bringing a knife to a gun fight. Ok. What about a gulf club?

[@Burak_Kant61]

Yes no explanation needed

[@MindOfJigsaw1]

You have episode 8 as the title, its actually Episode 9

[@mrosefield309]

He should have smoked the nurses too. They know about Ellie’s unique condition, leaving her in danger.

[@sonyfusion1994]

That’s why I sadly had to killed them in the game

[@RiteshKumarPanda]

joel was unhinged

[@Sarok-rw2ri]

And NO one is seeing Laura Bailey (played Abby in TLoU P.2) as a Nurse ^^

[@deanwalker9605]

Given the alternative, yes he was

[@969omo]

The only thing Joel did wrong is that he didn't kill everyone there and light the whole dam place on fire.

[@kaydens6964]

Its funny everyone thinks Joel did the right thing in the comment, You got Anakin who did the same thing for his mother but was turned into some kind of meme lol Joel did a terrible thing here, that is my opinion.

[@xbox0615]

Mando goes hard man

[@tristanyang3135]

Joel is dangerous when he needs to be and saving Ellie trigger his killer instinct

[@musicmade4larry896]

He killed Abby's dad!!! Season 2 is going to be insane

[@tadanott300]

IMO, Marlene is a bad person. She didn't give Ellie a choice and then tried to justify her actions to Joel by saying Ellie would have wanted to do it. If she was so sure, Marlene would have asked. If your willing to sacrifice a child for a maybe cure, do you even deserve one?

[@quadeappenheimer8135]

Does no one realize that Abby’s dad that he whacks without hesitation and Joel has just started the cycle of revenge. Marked himself

[@TheBronzeGamer14]

Are we getting reactions of Joel talking about his failed suicide attempt?

[@bobcarter6869]

What Joel did wrong was he didn't kill those two nurses in the operating room that will come back to bite him

[@draith1793]

A world without my daughter, isn’t a world I would want to live in…. As a father myself, I say that yes Joel did the right thing…

[@leanthonymoore5818]

Then accept the consequences when Abby comes for you…

[@draith1793]

@@leanthonymoore5818 - Not if I get her 1st

[@draith1793]

@@leanthonymoore5818 - All kidding aside. I bet Joel would much rather have died to Abby vs living in a world without Ellie. I know I would.

[@AndrewBrownballroomdru]

You need to edit this and add PWHusstle when he does his reaction. He is a father and has a kid about that age.

[@stephanieweisbart777]

I get it: he can't go through that again. The lies were wrong, and Ellie knew. 😢

[@scooter1687]

you need to do a joel tells ellie about his head scar

[@scarlettlynda3315]

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