*According to reports, the two Air Marshals were approved onboard the aircraft but the crew hadn't been notified. The Air Marshal shouldn't have shown his gun but his badge instead*
@pmvaldez16 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the air marshal had a bad attitude.
@ncc74656m6 жыл бұрын
Using your firearm as your identification is proof you shouldn't have that firearm.
@pmvaldez16 жыл бұрын
@@ncc74656m exactly. Any fool with a gun could flash it and claim to be an "air marshal".
@pmvaldez16 жыл бұрын
Something else to consider. What if other passengers had seen that, they could have interpreted that as a hijacking and tried to overpower him and that could have lead to shots being fired.
@93hothead6 жыл бұрын
So in the video they wanted to find someone but decided to cause distress to that poor flight attendant
@mynameisgladiator19336 жыл бұрын
"Hey. I'm an air marshal. I can prove it. Here's my gun." - Former Air Marshal.
@T0MMYNAT0R5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to hijack the comment to say that not only the flight attend, crew and captain did a good job, but also the tower. Because even after they said: "Yeah, they are marshals" the tower still said we'll have to check first, which is extremely smart.
@ralphholiman74014 жыл бұрын
Well, we know they didn't really think he was a hijacker, because, we know from 9-11, that they pretty much stand back and hand the plane over if they think they are.
@cdoesrcher4 жыл бұрын
@@ralphholiman7401 who???? air marshalls weren't on those planes and the pilots were fucken stabbed. shut the hell up you idiot.
4 жыл бұрын
@@cdoesrcher I can use this salt to de-ice an entire plane fleet. Even Marshalls can lose control. People are encaged on a flying aluminum tube, travelling on high speed. It's not really a pleasure to know that you have another person with a weapon on a situation like that. The same if you're in a submarine, or whatever vehicle you can't escape "just like that". Even a badge can be fake.
@ralphholiman74014 жыл бұрын
Don’t get mad just because I’m right. We were told for years, that if there was a hi-jacking, to just let the stewardesses handle it. Well, we saw how well that worked out.
@Billoreillyz6 жыл бұрын
I love how all the news outlets said they "mistakenly" cuffed an air marshal amazing how when you listen to this there was no mistake they cuffed him because he screwed up flashing a gun.
@ThePandaKingFTW4 жыл бұрын
@Patriots Rising Its as if there were no air marshals on those flights? Its been stated many times
@ThePandaKingFTW4 жыл бұрын
@Patriots Rising Holy shit bro chill out lmfao. Acting like im defending nazis or something. Literally just stating facts, do you not think an extensive investigation was done after this happened? Not hard to find out exactly who was on those planes.
@FrogPondering4 жыл бұрын
@Patriots Rising the sheer amount of insanity you're erupting is impressive
@MrPizack4 жыл бұрын
@Patriots Rising Words cannot express how unintelligent you seem
@jac12074 жыл бұрын
@@MrPizack be patient with him, he has the 'tism
@ih8tusernam3s5 жыл бұрын
The captain was smart about this; he relayed the events to ATC. Now it's all documented so the air marshals can't make up a BS story.
@mamneo25 жыл бұрын
The Pilot can still lie on Radio... That does not disprove the version of these Air Marshals.
@ThrasherGnar4 жыл бұрын
@@mamneo2 Pilots don't have a long history of lying on record, cops do...
@Apollo5804 жыл бұрын
mamneo2 There’s also the flight deck recording
@andmos10014 жыл бұрын
mamneo2 oh and don’t forget the black box recording
@LavenderSystem694 жыл бұрын
@@mamneo2 Voice and data recorders, though... those NEVER lie
@TheWatanna6 жыл бұрын
The crew attendant did the right thing by telling the Captain. Safety first, and that idiot who showed his gun instead of his ID caused the problem not the attendant. The attendant did not know who he was, I think his ego was bigger than his gun and brain.
@QemeH6 жыл бұрын
Plus, the pilot is technically the FAM's superior. They don't view it that way, but the captain is considered head of the executive power on board. He has the final say in security matters. All the FA did was tell the chief on board that "his" guard was acting strange. Absolutely the right call, especially as it was unclear if there even WERE marshalls on the flight (i.e. the man could be an imposter).
@thedave77606 жыл бұрын
Since when did porn have dialogue? I'll have to investigate this.
@QemeH6 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly, I imagine.
@TheWatanna6 жыл бұрын
** I agree, he was a total idiot.
@androidkenobi6 жыл бұрын
retrained for bulk fuel in the USMC :) I heard the lowest passing scores go to a job called bulk fuel. I think I remember reading something like failing the ASVAB test means the DoD does not believe a person's intellect allows them to be trainable for any job. I wish all the bottom feeders in the federal employee system can be transferred to bulk fuel where they can at least serve some purpose (dragging heavy hoses) or GTFO.
@jerryharrington10346 жыл бұрын
Wow. That poor flight attendant must have been scared to death. What an outstanding job by the pilot and crew. Well done Captain !!
@ramairgto726 жыл бұрын
I think that flight attendant caused this entire issue. Maybe his badge was next to his holstered weapon, and the weapon is ALL that attendant calculated and stopped any more thinking. This makes no REAL WORLD sense and everyone here knows that.
@anbooba6 жыл бұрын
@@ramairgto72 If you ever seen the air marshal ID, it can not fit next to the gun. But there wad a mishap sonewhere, Captain should have known, about the air marshals on board and if they are carrying guns or any person carrying gun on his flight. Most likely they are connecting flight!
@Eli-fj3sc5 жыл бұрын
@@ramairgto72 not at all, can you imagine being a flight attendant and a passenger demands that they see a manifest for a single person and then flash a weapon. No, no, no, that does not fly and neither did that plane after that. Good job to the crew.
@rayford215 жыл бұрын
@@anbooba Since it was an ERJ160 aircraft it was probably a regional airline contracted by United.
@xxxxxGhostBoyxxxxx5 жыл бұрын
@@ramairgto72 clearly you don't understand the SOP and ethics as armed officer. You SHOULD concealed your firearm at all times. With or without purpose.
@CarrieMK4 жыл бұрын
“Don’t do anything you wouldn’t want reported to the flight deck,” is generally a good rule of thumb when you’re on a plane.
@guitourney4 жыл бұрын
@MrCloudseeker offloading visibly intoxicated people is standard SOP
@RyTrapp04 жыл бұрын
@Patriots Rising ...looks like we found the alcoholic...
@isaacyuhas93253 жыл бұрын
FAM: “Don’t worry, I’m an air Marshall” Flight Attendant: “Lol not anymore”
@spvillano3 жыл бұрын
@TylOOOr D not any longer.Bringing disgrace to one's organization in a public trust position if lethal to one's career.
@SirValiantIII6 жыл бұрын
"I think I need to stop coming to Minneapolis" hahaha
@baganatube6 жыл бұрын
Tower didn't know how to respond to that. :D
@k1productions876 жыл бұрын
Or stop flying for United,... or both :P
@RuggedBrotha6 жыл бұрын
Stay outta New York. The people and the city are Shit Buckets and PooPoo mouths,
@BinaryShad06 жыл бұрын
There is NO reason to go to that shit hole
@haroldk7245 жыл бұрын
that was classic...I love that
@driftspecs136 жыл бұрын
Quick correction: the First Officer is an FFDO (not FSDO)--Federal Flight Deck Officer, which is a commercial pilot trained as a federal law enforcement officer under the TSA. They're armed pilots and are akin to Air Marshals, with their jurisdiction being the aircraft itself.
@GunNtonic6 жыл бұрын
Sure this will make it to the FAM training academy as what not to do.
@93hothead6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@pmvaldez16 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it already is.
@Pacmannion6 жыл бұрын
Umm... what? Air marshals don't wear uniforms. Half the crap your saying doesn't make sense whatsoever.
@blindleader426 жыл бұрын
"Half the crap"? It's wall to wall nonsense that Levine appears to believe demonstrates his wisdom.
@6teezkid6 жыл бұрын
GunNtonic A big 10-4 on that one.
@mikefuquay99036 жыл бұрын
I tip my hat to the flight crew for being so cautious about the whole situation. What a mess.
@JeffryJohnston6 жыл бұрын
badges don't grant extra rights
@algrayson89656 жыл бұрын
@@JeffryJohnston- No, but authorized agents of the state have POWERS not granted to others. These powers are not "rights" in a personal, civil or constitutional sense. A state agent who uses his/her powers for personal advantage is abusing that power and may be committing a crime.
@untitled69816 жыл бұрын
huh? whatever you say Osama
@B-System4 жыл бұрын
@Quack Quark I mean basically if someone asks you if you are an air marshal you should show them your badge, which only an air marshal would have, as opposed to your gun, which an air marshal or a lunatic might have
@AL-so5tl3 жыл бұрын
@@algrayson8965 a federal agent abusing any of his/her power is subject to public execution, his/her family as well
@2011blueman6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the air marshal is upset that the flight attendant contacted the pilots because now he is going to be suspended or better yet fired for his unprofessional conduct.
@christianbuczko14816 жыл бұрын
Exactly, he fucked up, and was trying to cover his own ass and realised its too late.
@rsrt69106 жыл бұрын
When the cabin door locks and he realized the plane was diverting to the nearest airport, I'm pretty sure he knew what was about to happen to his career. The only way it could have been worse is if a fighter escort appeared.
@6or7breadsticks6 жыл бұрын
He should be charged with something as an example. What he did is way out of line.
@BrianB144716 жыл бұрын
@@rsrt6910 They didn't divert. MSP was the intended destination.
@rsrt69106 жыл бұрын
Brian Boorman I don't believe that could be true. It would mean that people actually wanted to go there.
@erictaylor54624 жыл бұрын
Being upset with the flight attendant for calling the cabin is like a crook being upset you called the cops after he robbed you.
@selftrue6706 жыл бұрын
Pilot DEFINITELY did the right thing. No doubt whatsoever. That marshal is terminated for sure.
@Richbroth5 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength no
@guitaristxcore5 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength That really doesnt matter. If the FA didnt see the badge then hes just some nut with a gun on a commercial flight.
@JoeKingAudits4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@dknowles604 жыл бұрын
he most likely kept his job. no one die. the fed gov dont even fire you when you shot a women holding a baby
@zd_mon4 жыл бұрын
@@LegendLength his gun was next to his badge, and his dick was next to his gun. See where I'm going with this?
@bigal75613 жыл бұрын
This Captain and flight crew should be training crews on how to handle and emergency. No panic just doing the job. Outstanding. The crewman that reported it should get a bonus as should all of the crew on that plane. The captain runs a tight ship. Well done by all including the Tower
@copflyer65694 жыл бұрын
A former brother police officer I worked with left and became a FAM. He thought it would be exciting to be an Air Marshall carrying Federal credentials. It didn’t take long for him to learn that a FAM is the most boring uneventful job out of all the Federal Govt. law enforcement agencies. This guy’s actions were totally inappropriate and the flight crew handled it in a very professional manner.
@MichaelKingsfordGray2 жыл бұрын
Liar.
@maxjasmine4 жыл бұрын
The pilot in commands authority is above all others when airborne,he got it right.
@brianhaygood1833 жыл бұрын
Now go look at the news reports on this. That gives you just a glimpse of how completely unreliable news reporters are. Some even start out talking about the attendant "freaking out because she saw a gun", then further down reveal they actually have the entire story, but still they decided to frame it this way. Others say police "mistakenly" remove an air marshal. Just garbage.
@s_low_s102 жыл бұрын
thats main stream media for ya
@cynagen2 жыл бұрын
They're not going to smear the cops or air marshals, once people figure out it's all security theater (see reports of how often TSA actually passes their inspections for proof) and not actual security they'll demand that the TSA and air marshals no longer be a thing and they clearly don't want that.
@danowolf4 жыл бұрын
Smart pilot, all that he says over the radio is cemented in the record, no twisting the official record later or certainly making it harder. Also if your ever in a situation like this, make one written statement, take a photo of it with your cell phone and when asked to repeat what happened only refer to the first written statement, no deviation or they pounce.
@crazymasina85244 жыл бұрын
"I told her I was a fuckin air marshal, she looked at me like I was crazy... she new I was for real when I showed her my gun" "Yeah Rick about that...."
@purplebunny77283 жыл бұрын
This is one of the clearest communications I have heard. I could understand every word.
@natepeace17373 жыл бұрын
“Badges! We don’t need no stinking badges!!!” - Former Air Marshal
@kellyrayburn40934 жыл бұрын
The flight attendant shouldn't have called the flight deck to report him displaying his weapon? What kind of training did that guy have? In such a situation, informing the flight deck is standard procedure and the attendant has *NO* discretion. Informing the flight deck is mandatory. Had he displayed his badge, the attendant would have discretion. Displaying a deadly weapon removes that discretion.
@kellyrayburn40934 жыл бұрын
@Patriots Rising Only air marshals and other authorized law enforcement officers are allowed to carry firearms onto a commercial airline. All law enforcement personnel have badges. Heck, even security guards (rent a cops) have badges.
@TimThomason4 жыл бұрын
@@kellyrayburn4093 Yeah, and he would have a badge that identified him as an Air Marshall. In a perfect scenario, he would display his badge to her, nothing else. Then she would likely inform the cockpit of an FAM onboard, Badge Number Such-and-Such. They would confirm that he was who he said he was, inform the Attendant, and she would then allow him access to the manifest. Instead, he tried to skip most of those steps to prove he was legit because he had a pistol, as only FAMs are authorized to have firearms, and idiotically didn't realize how threatening this would seem.
@kellyrayburn40934 жыл бұрын
@@TimThomason I agree. Display his badge allow her to take the badge number to relay to the cockpit to confirm. Once confirmed, give him access to the manifest. Just displaying the weapon without the badge is idiocy cubed.
@hxhdfjifzirstc8944 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna take a wild guess and bet that 99.99% of people who ask about the manifest and have a gun in their holster are air marshals. If the stewardess wasn't sure from all the clues, she could easily ask for his badge, before going nuclear. This incident has idiots everywhere you look.
@kellyrayburn40934 жыл бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 I'm sorry, but displaying a firearm for *ANY* reason other than absolutely necessary defense of life is unacceptable. He should have shown her his badge so she could relay the badge number to the flight deck for them to confirm. Once they have confirmed that this is an on duty FAM in the performance of his duty, they can give him access to the manifest. The fact that he displayed his firearm before he displayed his badge is a direct violation of Standard Operating Procedure and is grounds to declare an emergency. The flight attendant did absolutely *NOTHING* wrong here. Had she not informed the flight deck of this person displaying his firearm, she would have been derelict in her duty. That is a termination offense.
@TristanL33 жыл бұрын
‘We didn’t know we had FAMs on board’, don’t they have to make the flight crew aware of the presence and don’t the flight crew seat the Air Marshal? So for 2 to be on board and to flash a gun not a badge? I’d have called ATC too
@spvillano3 жыл бұрын
No, they don't seat the air marshal, but they are to be informed that armed agents are aboard, just like any other potential hazards to the aircraft.
@mustang61726 жыл бұрын
Air Marshals: They cost millions of dollars and have yet to arrest a single terrorist.
@algrayson89656 жыл бұрын
Because the terrs go somewhere else. Just that passengers swarm people who scare them is quite a deterrent. Instead the terrs go shoot up a school or bomb a mall.
@jetfrostgaming5 жыл бұрын
Both the underwear and shoe bomber were stopped by the passengers. If some guy gets bright ideas, the passengers will stop them, it's not a new concept.
@glasstuna5 жыл бұрын
@@jetfrostgaming after flight 93, yeah, the passengers will not sit quietly and wait to die.
@jetfrostgaming5 жыл бұрын
@@glasstuna Indeed friend, I'd raise a freaking butter knife like Braveheart if I had to! ;D
@NLTops5 жыл бұрын
@rgtrooper13 dickhead is one word. But I'm sure you had plenty of time for that extra spacebar you unemployed arse. Of all the things to freaking complain about.
@Nikolai18A4 жыл бұрын
Brickyard 3531 sounded young, and betrayed his youth with experience and outstanding professionalism. Props, brother. Friendly skies are always preferable.
@zertmcdirt78433 жыл бұрын
You just assumed age and gender . . . You MONSTER!
@ncc74656m6 жыл бұрын
I really hope that air marshal loses his job for that behavior.
@peterfitzpatrick70326 жыл бұрын
They rode off into the sunset on their emotional support horses... 😅😅
@StillTyping9136 жыл бұрын
katie_incredible same.
@macmedic8926 жыл бұрын
A federal employee? Ha! He’ll probably be promoted.
@StillTyping9136 жыл бұрын
macmedic892 it’s against their procedure to pull out a gun during a flight. They can be fired for it.
@SupaEMT1346 жыл бұрын
Wait. *What behavior?* FOR DOING HIS JOB??!
@hauntedshadowslegacy28265 жыл бұрын
"How dare you call the pilots and complain about my actions!" has the same energy as "Don't be a tattle tale, I can break the rules if I want!". Kindergarten attitude, smh...
@ChicagoMel234 жыл бұрын
No it isn’t “typical”. Most police are decent people
@mikaelgaiason6883 жыл бұрын
*cop attitude
@mikaelgaiason6883 жыл бұрын
@@ChicagoMel23 Most police are sad losers who can't get a real job. Statistically it's the worst job for attracting mentally and emotionally unstable trash
@CloudyNimitz3 жыл бұрын
@@mikaelgaiason688 That's a cool opinion. Let me know who you're going to call next time you come home to your house being robbed. And don't say you will defend yourself, since I know you're one of those anti-gun freaks.
@mikaelgaiason6883 жыл бұрын
@@CloudyNimitz My house has been broken into. Cops didn't do shit. Had a crazy ex once that stole my rifle, which was a family heirloom, and take it across state lines. Cops didn't do shit. They're useless losers that do nothing for society except daylight roadside robbery. Ive defended myself plenty of times. Didn't grow up in your secluded protected world. And I'm not anti-gun. I'm anti-stupid-scared-pussies-with-guns
@bcgrittner80763 жыл бұрын
As a retired armored truck guy I have dealt with various law enforcement types who think they are hot stuff. I can have an ATM open, and they think they can approach me and show their badges and everything is OK. WRONG! I told one to shove his badge somewhere and another to get a refund on his toy badge from Walmart. They did not need to approach. Their behavior was unprofessional.
@scuds034 жыл бұрын
I used to fly armed all the time (Federal LE) and I never received training which included displaying a firearm as a form of identification while flying lol. Badge/Creds and UFAN
@billwalker75563 жыл бұрын
You have to be a FEDERAL LAW enforcement officer (LEO) as you said and know that only Federal LEO'S may carry weapons on board. I am an FAA trained and certified Airline Ground Security Coordinator. I am contacted if an armed FEDERAL LEO is booked on a flight. I am required to check credentials and introduce him to the pilot in command and the head flight attendant. So many protocols were broken and ignored by a FEDERAL LEO who knows the rules and regulations but chose to ignore them. Honestly, it's scary and possibly a very dangerous situation. He is done in any type law enforcement occupation and could very well be sentenced to jail time in addition to being terminated. He may also be ordered by a FEDERAL judge to undergo a psychological examination based on his actions.
@DeepFakeLofi4 жыл бұрын
"Badge? What's that?" "But here, let me show you my cool gun!"
@vikingbase4 жыл бұрын
"We don't need no stinkin badges"
@newtonianromance6 жыл бұрын
What a cowboy...should lose his job for being so unprofessional.
@murraystewartj5 жыл бұрын
Great coordination between pilot, controllers and emergency services. Get the plane on the ground and in a secure place, then sort out the mess. Just because a guy is an air marshal doesn't mean he hasn't gone off the deep end. First priority is to keep everyone safe. Listen to these guys - so calm and professional and keeping each other informed. Just another "yawn" day at the office.
@gtpk35274 жыл бұрын
I looked up some articles about this, and to the surprise of I presume absolutely nobody, TSA blamed to flight attendant that she 'failed to recognize that armed individual is an air marshal'.
@brendalg44 жыл бұрын
Thanks, now I don't have to look it up
@hxhdfjifzirstc8944 жыл бұрын
Honestly... the guy asked to see the manifest and showed a gun in his holster. If those clues weren't enough, it's quite a simple matter to ask for the badge. What's the other explanation? A crazy man is playing 'air marshal', and can somehow get a gun through security, but doesn't know that air marshals have a badge? Duh. Forehead smack. Duh.
@m2heavyindustries3784 жыл бұрын
"SHUTUP, sir"
@simmer4844 жыл бұрын
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 You are missing the point. Having an armed agent on board who is willing to use his gun as a negotiating tool would alarm any Captain I am sure. Badge revealed or not.
@lightravenn4 жыл бұрын
You still have to follow the rules, you cant showoff guns. The correct way was to show badge identifying himself, and asking for the captain permission to take a look at the manifest.
@1990chrism4 жыл бұрын
Air Marshal: "oh shit I can't find my badge!, I'm gonna get into so much trouble if I don't see this manifest.." Also Air Marshal : "I know I can show my gun instead, that will prove i'm a Air Marshal and not a hijacker...." *Air Marshal ends up in much worse trouble for breaking protocol, intimidating cabin crew and causing the emergency grounding of the flight*
@vitom55133 жыл бұрын
The badge don't mean shit anyway. He has to show his creds.
@00BillyTorontoBill6 жыл бұрын
Whisper : "im an air marshall and I want to look at the manifest...do you want to see my badge? ...or if you dont like your job...whip out your gun.
@vikingbase4 жыл бұрын
"We don't need no stinkin badges"
@MangelBanselmo4 жыл бұрын
@@vikingbase lmao
@boostedM6 жыл бұрын
Round of applause for the crew. What a mess of a situation
@edtherockhound99446 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the professionalism of the pilots and atc wow great job guys thank you for making our flying experience safe and enjoyable
@Beateau4 жыл бұрын
As a former FA it's not unusual for working FAMs to not disclose their presence, but it is uncommon. The whole gun instead of badge thing, yeah..... Was this the FAM that was stalking his ex-wife, or am I thinking of something else?
@eddiecanis6 жыл бұрын
I chuckles at "nothing more memorable then this" and pilot like OH i don't know "last time i came here it was a medical emergancy"
@spicyweasel6 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah, he had some bad luck with Minneapolis!
@jonathanbair5236 жыл бұрын
As a kid my family would call it Minnehopelis not Minneapolis. Then Again I grew up on the St. Paul side of the river of the twin citys.
@Max_R_MaMint6 жыл бұрын
At first I read that as "Many hopeless", lol
@jonathanbair5236 жыл бұрын
LOL
@653j5216 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Bair You grew up there and don't know it is written as twin cities?
@junqueboi3876 жыл бұрын
Great rapport between RPA3531 and the Tower. Great catch, VASAviation!
@mdnealy40976 жыл бұрын
The FBI called the incident miscommunication. The above video stated it was not SOP to show a weapon instead of a badge. I've seen nothing to suggest the Air Marshall is suspended .
@yammmit5 жыл бұрын
Franken HateGooPlus this is pretty great, they’re both calm and collected and sound like they enjoy what they’re doing.
@bEEBO1784 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an out of control unpredictable narcissist. Should be heavily fined, stripped of his badge and never allowed in a flight again.
@VoteMarkPolk4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I knew a FAM and he was fired for pointing his duty weapon at a man and his elderly father at a Newark airport. He was arrested and fired later. He joined a DC govt sub agency and was fired from there as well for having an illegal assault weapon. He was reinstated and was fired again for falsifying paperwork. Cruddy agency but a more cruddy person. He was someone who had police tattooed on his butt because no one would believe he was every smart enough to earn a badge. I am sure other FAMs may know who I am speaking of.
@willoliver99606 жыл бұрын
The flight attendant did the right thing, upon being confronted by an armed individual on a passenger flight, the flight attended informed the pilots that an individual with a gun was on-board was making demands and revealing the gun (this could easily be interpreted as an implied threat of violence against the flight attendant and/or other crew/passengers). The pilots responded appropriately by securing the cockpit and informing authorities on the ground, keeping the cockpit secure until authorities on the ground could confirm the incident had been resolved. The behaviour of the Air Marshal seemed to be ignorant of the responsibilities of the other parties involved with air security procedures. I suspect this Air Marshal needs to be retrained to instill an awareness of the roles and responsibilities of flight attendants and pilots in air security, to avoid initiating a chain of events similar to the one depicted in this video, in which the actions of the Air Marshal cause the crew of this airliner to respond using their established procedures for dealing with a possible hostile threat to the plane and those aboard it. The Air Marshal should probably also be informed that showing a gun to people going about their usual business in their place of work is, inherently, an extremely threatening action and should be avoided in other locations as well, such as while returning items at a department store, or demanding more whipped cream on a fancy coffee at the coffee shop. Based on this individual's apparent indignation at being treated as a threat by the air crew, I'm not certain the Air Marshal is already aware of this.
@thegeneralissimo4706 жыл бұрын
exactly, this isn't Texas, this is Minnesota. You do that here, we won't say anything about it, but we'll be really uncomfortable and passive aggressive.
@watchgoose5 жыл бұрын
the cockpit is ALWAYS secured. Been that way since 9/11.
@papaguy20015 жыл бұрын
@Scot Rule do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
@andmos10014 жыл бұрын
Will Oliver not re-educated, the Air Marshal should be fired on the spot because of his conduct. This where interpreted as an attempted hi jack by the pilot because they have most likely squatted 7500 due to the tower asking them to switch the transponder from on to either their original signal or standby
@jamesjacocks62214 жыл бұрын
What is your definition of "confronted"? What demands were made?
@Anonymous-it5jw4 жыл бұрын
Thank God for highly trained professionals - air crew, that is!
@lukethomas.1252 ай бұрын
The pilot and the ATC were amazing on this
@PointlessGunSyncs6 жыл бұрын
*You gotta chill FAM*
@Kay_213_6 жыл бұрын
Get out
@AntiNoobDefence6 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@PointlessGunSyncs6 жыл бұрын
@@Kay_213_ chill *FAM*
@Kay_213_6 жыл бұрын
😒
@flynnlivescmd5 жыл бұрын
@@PointlessGunSyncs youre dumb n young
@Gkitchens15 жыл бұрын
Incredible job by the pilots, arc and crew at handling the situation smoothly and professionally.
@PHX7876 жыл бұрын
the dictionary definition of utmost professionalism. and that pilot deserves a month off...and a beer from the excellent airport bars at MSP!
@MrLikeke6 жыл бұрын
The pilot was too wordy on freq. Exuberant even.
@matthiaspatzelt30855 жыл бұрын
Secret Squirrel as no one else was transmitting on that freq, I guess they were assigned a dedicated frequency for exactly that purpose, so they could relay details of the (possible) emergency without blocking the freq for anyone else
@LunaticTheCat2 жыл бұрын
@@MrLikeke It was good that he explained the whole situation on frequency, it helped law enforcement on the ground understand exactly what was going on
@Bartonovich526 жыл бұрын
*“When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power... like God must feel when he's holding a gun!”*
@NicholasLittlejohn5 жыл бұрын
lol
@AngelVazquez-xh1dh4 жыл бұрын
I can imagine the presumptuous guy just showing his gun hidden somewhere in his clothes... Trying to impress the lady... And after a few minutes getting mad realizing that he screwed it up
@CAv-lp2qk6 жыл бұрын
"Sir, we're gonna need you to calm down"
@Neilram20016 жыл бұрын
C. Av “what you mean, you people?”
@CAv-lp2qk6 жыл бұрын
"I AM CALM!!!" xD
@androidkenobi6 жыл бұрын
Sir, u just said "BOMB" on an airplane!
@vikingbase4 жыл бұрын
"We don't need no stinkin badges"
@sfctapia45294 жыл бұрын
😅😂😂😂😂😂
@Ruce6506055 жыл бұрын
Safety is the number one priority, even if it causes delays! Flight attendant did a good call on that
@SenorAhole6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the air marshal got into a fight with a passenger and wanted to lookup their name on the manifest
@kimberlymartin87843 жыл бұрын
Nothing at all scary bout that!
@yoopernow5 жыл бұрын
"According to the incident report, a flight attendant told investigators she was sitting in the front gallery when a passenger approached and, "demanded to see the passenger manifest. After telling him no, she said the passenger responded by saying, "didn't they tell you me and my partner (redacted) were on board? When the flight attendant asked for his credentials, she says he said "how about this for credentials," and then lifted up his shirt to reveal a handgun." Same Flight: "The flight attendant told investigators one of the air marshals got out of his seat to check his bag in the overhead compartments while the plane was still taxiing down the runway. When she instructed him to sit down, the report states the air marshal refused to listen. The marshal retrieved his Federal Air Marshal badge from his bag and showed it to the flight attendant." - KSTP December 4, 2018 [We're from the Federal Government and we're here to help you...]
@rafaeloda5 жыл бұрын
I really hope he is a mall security officer now.
@Bryan-Hensley4 жыл бұрын
@Flat FLSTF don't worry, you won't ever be a Marshall, they don't hire highschool drop outs.
@xXJMatherXx4 жыл бұрын
@Flat FLSTF Go try that with a police officer idiot. Police: "Hey are if you say you're an FBI agent, please show us your badge" Flat FLSTF: Lifts up his shirt to show his gun. Police: Immediately tackle him, if not shoot him first. You really are a special one aren't you bud?
@JosephWiess4 жыл бұрын
FAM's and TSA: capturing no terrorist since 9/11/2001.......
@OttoMattak4 жыл бұрын
I'm here on behalf of the internet idiots awards committee. We understand that there's a winner here. Thanks s g, looks like you found the perfect candidate.
@JustinOhio2 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad they didn't have box cutters!
@jerrywilliams95334 жыл бұрын
Gun barrel was longer than his willy. Great job to the FA for alerting the Captain and flight crew for diverting. On board ANY aircraft the PILOT IS GOD. He is the one responsible for every life onboard his aircraft. Awesome job captain. You are the HERO for your quick thinking and actions getting your flight on the ground safely. Shout out to ATC controllers for their fast actions of clearing traffic out of Republic Airlines way for a faster landing. Now since this happened in the air, it is a Federal matter which means a Federal prosecutor will decide if if it goes to Federal Court. I say yes, fire him and prosecute him and charge him $50.000.00 in fines and fees. Let him be the poster child of what a FAM does not do on an airliner. AWESOME job to the entire FLIGHT CREW...... Y'ALL ROCK!
@armastat5 жыл бұрын
The flight crew acted correctly. Even if the Marshall ID'd himself correctly with the badge. Them not being notified that marshals were on board is an issue that needed to be reported to the Captain & passed on to their OPs at the very least. Showing of the gun is forbidden PERIOD, except if they have to pull it on a suspect. I think the Marshals got on the flight to capture a suspect getting on at a mid route stop and they didn't show (or couldn't ID him/her) and the guy was upset over that. but very unprofessional either way and to be honest considering how minor things get regular passengers slapped with the Federal Crime of disturbing an aircraft these guys should of as well.
@Awsome17203 Жыл бұрын
Air Marshals are on planes anonymously so the crew is never notified unless something serious occurs
@armastat Жыл бұрын
@@Awsome17203 Ride alongs are not notified ahead of time. those are there for airplane security in case something happens. If they are there for ANY other official reason, especially if armed. they do have to notify the captain. To be clear. The marshals don't tell the captain. TSA security will do that when the marshall comes through security When they ID themselves and state their reasons. That said each airline has their own set of procedures on this.
@BrokebackBob6 жыл бұрын
I hope that air marshal is severely disciplined. Totally out of line showing his gun.
@111himan6 жыл бұрын
I bet it had to do with a cute flight attendant
@pmvaldez16 жыл бұрын
@@111himan he showed her the wrong gun.
@kaio37k6 жыл бұрын
It was the only gun he had longer than 4 inches.
@greenbeagle136 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, fired....
@JoeKingAudits4 жыл бұрын
Nope
@ScarletFlower954 жыл бұрын
"I think I need to stop coming to Minneapolis" haha
@kaesarromanova1876 Жыл бұрын
Air Mashals are allowed to have their guns onboard! So when they show their gun an emergency is declared! US rules😂😂😂 Lov it
@carschmn6 жыл бұрын
This could have turned into a disaster. The Air Marshal was armed and stupid and the flight officer was approved with United Airlines to be armed. Hope the Air Marshal gets reprimanded since he walked up to the flight attendant, flashed his gun, and demanded to see the manifest.
@algrayson89656 жыл бұрын
Didn't say he "flashed" his gun, only that she saw it.
@thomaspayne68665 жыл бұрын
Al Grayson -- “he showed”.
@Airboss594 жыл бұрын
Must of been a rookie, as a retired federal officer you never flash your weapon to anyone that’s why you have Credentials.
@gooner723 жыл бұрын
This channel is brilliant mate, I love listening to the, sometimes bizarre, and fascinating ATC conversations from everywhere...... I'm on the edge of my seat during the tense emergency procedures that go on every single day and I'm in awe of the dedicated, calm, professional people both in the ATC"s and the cockpits. Obviously being an Englishman, I'm always proud of the cool, calm and collected attitude and professionalism of our Airlines. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
@richardkelsch36404 жыл бұрын
One of the key points of air marshals is to make sure the passengers do not know who you are. No cop, agent, nor marshal is ever permitted to brandish or threaten anyone with their gun, unless an emergency situation is occurring. If identifying yourself, you show your badge. This isn't Hollywood, and I hope that flight attendant sued for the FAM's misconduct and threats. I sincerely hope that not only were the marshals removed from the air marshal force, but also banned from any law enforcement duty. You do not threaten anyone with a gun ever. Guns are for an officer's protection and ability to subdue a criminal. They are never for threatening and massaging egos, nor are they for terrorizing citizens.
@karmabrothercat4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the right call. Just because someone tells you they are air Marshall does not mean that they really are, accompanying the unusual behaviour of showing their guns.
@vincentconti36334 жыл бұрын
No small talk...they are focused! A very good thing!
@erictaylor54626 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the flight crew did exactly what they should have done. Air Marshals are suppose to be secret. If the guy really is and air marshal, he should be fired.
@JoeKingAudits4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't
@carbon12554 жыл бұрын
@MLU8811 Not being a FAM anymore and being fired are ENTIRELY different, Just promoting him away, protecting their own. Public dishonourable discharge is what is required. That man should never work again, and be thankful he wasn't brained.
@styler197216 жыл бұрын
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
@rsrt69106 жыл бұрын
"A hospital? What is it?" "It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now."
@styler197216 жыл бұрын
"Nervous?" "Yes very." "First time?" "No, I've been nervous lots of times."
@styler197216 жыл бұрын
Robert Woko, Looks like i picked the wrong day to quit watching VASAviation videos
@HalfShelli6 жыл бұрын
And *don't* call me Shirley.
@yotzincastrejon6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
@edew91803 жыл бұрын
"Ill go ahead and put the parking brake on" i now imagine theres a lever right next to the throttles that you yank up to engage the brakes
@AlistairLynn3 жыл бұрын
There is.
@androidkenobi6 жыл бұрын
MSP is actually a nice place to visit. There are so many pianos to play! There's an excellent Kawai in the baggage claim, a street piano at the Nicollette tram stop, and a Schubert museium in town at which one can actually play a bunch of pianos and organs, some of which have actually been played by Listz and Brahms themselves!
@duzehalo2 жыл бұрын
All the random things I'm learning from KZbin comments... Thanks 😃👍
@cowbertnet4 жыл бұрын
transcript: it's "FFDO". The FO is a Federal Flight Deck Officer, someone ironically in this case, trained and certified by the FAM program to carry firearms on the flight deck.
@thegardenofeatin59654 жыл бұрын
And NOT a Flight Standards District Office.
@skipd91643 жыл бұрын
I looked through comments to find out what the letters meant. I wish at least once during videos they would sayout the meaning
@eliorahg3 жыл бұрын
I guess you can say Brickyard and United were offering a *non-stop* service between Newark and Minneapolis.
@mistermouth33106 жыл бұрын
The pilot sounds very young but he did a great job. Very thorough.
@notafanboy2506 жыл бұрын
It's cute that you think age matters in this job.
@lukeg84666 жыл бұрын
Age is often an indicator of how experienced a pilot is and experience definitely matters in this job.
@algrayson89656 жыл бұрын
@Chicha 17- There's a truck driver shortage. Now 80 year old drivers who retired at 70 are going back to work.
@iukanaboi175 жыл бұрын
Wow. Jackass comment of the year
@hobmoor20425 жыл бұрын
@@notafanboy250 - I agree. How about those 19/20 year old kids flying bombers over Germany with a crew of 10; they did a great job with very little training. Age is no guide to wisdom.
@nadinesteidl61534 жыл бұрын
Wow. I’ve heard approximately 3,236 of these. I’m still amazed at the professionalism of the whole crew. Everyone should get substantial raises.
@cdreid999995 жыл бұрын
The professionalism is astonishing
@thegardenofeatin59654 жыл бұрын
Can be taken straight for the crew and sarcastically for the marshal.
@Glideslopes6 жыл бұрын
No need to show the gun. Should be dismissed immediately with prejudice.
@JoeKingAudits4 жыл бұрын
Was not
@doctorstrange3674 жыл бұрын
Air Marshals are meant to operate anonymously: a) it allows them to discreetly observe passengers and crew, and b) It doesn't make them a target if there is a criminal or terrorist on the flight. Brandishing your weapon only serves to undermine the Air Marshal's job and cause confusion amongst uninformed members of the flight crew and passengers who would naturally be concerned about anyone having a firearm on a plane. I hope this Air Marshal received a needed performance review and re-training for his brash decision to show-off his gun instead of his ID & Badge.
@aidenstanley73052 жыл бұрын
...nope. He brandished his gun as authority. Hopefully he is blacklisted from ever handling a gun outside a range again, forget about being an air marshal.
@eritain Жыл бұрын
Guy needed a very short performance review, the kind they print on a pink slip.
@fosterb3005 жыл бұрын
I'm a Sun Country Mechanic, I was taxing our plane when this happened
@takethel77465 жыл бұрын
These pilots and the tower and ground guys AMAZE me....damn hard job but I feel safer flying listening to how they handle themselves
@coreywilliams14546 жыл бұрын
Welcome to FAMs trainining, day one. Now before we get started, the first thing you should know is never to display your firearm to anyone onboard any aircraft.
@mwsparky26 жыл бұрын
Too often emplyees of Police Authorities or Law enforcement "think" that their ID badge IS there gun! Whilst they play with their EGOS and showoff!! The FAM clearly made a fool of himself and demonstrated his lack of professionalism whilst the flight crew showed EXCEPTIONAL professionalism at all times including the flight attendant for informing the flight deck of the FAM's stupidity for unnecessarily alarming the crew...! A badge is proof not a gun, he could have been a hijacker!! Lessons learnt hopefully... Mike Williams Nottingham UK Thanks, well edited video, excellent 👍👌
@claudiodominguez.4 жыл бұрын
He probably just got a new Ruger 57 and is so exited he can't stop messing with it.
@davidross55934 жыл бұрын
I agree with the flight the FAM showing a firearm is suspicious and also threatening, no doubt illegal since it is against SOP for FS. Showing the badge would have been correct.
@NLTops3 жыл бұрын
Air Marshal: I'm an Air Marshal! Pilot: And now you're a ground(ed) Marshal.
@bobbypaluga43464 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the FA for not allowing the air Marshall to intimidate he or she. People do stupid things air Marshall’s are not immune. The pilots should have been made aware that they were carrying a couple of cowboys.
@sosco224 жыл бұрын
Professionally handled.. Well done.
@TakeDeadAim6 жыл бұрын
Back in 2002 I was accepted to FAM training(down in AZ IIRC at that time) after having interviewed out in NJ of all places and was set to go when they pulled the guaranteed "home" assignment(home airport). The remaining options were NOT an option to me so I passed. I've been in several three letter agencies since and was prior military SOF as well. I still know a couple of the guys I've met through the years and can say with a fairly high level of confidence that the guy flashing his "ack ack" will be soon looking for a job in a small town where the only "gun" he'll be flashing to unsuspecting civies will be his radar gun while eating boxes of Good-n-Plenty from his speed trap. Yeah...he's D-O-N-E. No question...
@christianbuczko14816 жыл бұрын
I hope so, its just a pity they didn't have him dragged off and arrested for it. The fact he was upset with the flight attendant shows he knew he'd fucked up.
@markmaki44606 жыл бұрын
It seems the two marshals were handcuffed by local police and released after questioning. www.aeroinside.com/item/11959/republic-e170-near-minneapolis-on-aug-20th-2018-unruly-air-marshal
@snowdoggieii6 жыл бұрын
Now that it has gone public and everyone knows their faces
@cynthiaklenk63136 жыл бұрын
Thank you - this now I would hope, "ex-agent" was everything you do NOT want on board an aircraft! What a Barney Fife!!!!!!! Well actually he'll be lucky if they give him an unloaded weapon, and one bullet he has to keep in a buttoned pocket (ala Barney Fife)!
@Wizzardgirl6 жыл бұрын
Hey .. thank you very much for your service to our country. Nice to know folks with brains still work for us! I appreciate it very much, sir or maam!
@kaddiddlehopper3 жыл бұрын
Several sources are blaming the flight attendant saying she "saw his gun and got scared." Doesn't sound like that's what happened. Sounds like terroristic threatening is what happened.
@jerome1lm3 жыл бұрын
I mean, you should get scared if soneone shows you his gun on an airplane.
@ftroop8462 Жыл бұрын
Air Marshal: We're air marshals FA: Who's we sucka? Air Marshal: Smith...and Wesson...and me
@wwlb49704 жыл бұрын
Well, I don't know the whole story, but it COULD BE that air marshals did not 'show' guns deliberately, rather flight attendant got frightened when he\she saw it. Perhaps, ID tag was on a belt, near the gun. Normally, a gun attracts view more than even a shiny badge. Maybe the gun was hidden under the shoulder, and while the AM was picking his inner pocket to pop the badge, the gun showed up. In that case, it takes seconds for a flight attendant to report gun holder on board and a week for gun holder to explain oneself.
@Ken-lp9qt6 жыл бұрын
Tower....Brickyard 3531... Uh..Two intoxicated passengers seated in the rear of aircraft have choked out the Air Marshals. Advice police...potential issue is neutralized and aircraft is secure.
@Gizziiusa5 жыл бұрын
i'd like to see the worldstar coverage of that...
@robertfaust56834 жыл бұрын
Minor detail, but ATC doesn't care about pounds of fuel, they care about time!
@brch24 жыл бұрын
No, they care about quantity of fuel... to let the emergency responders know how dangerous it will be if the plane catches fire (how much fuel there is to ignite). In another vid of an emergency landing I saw recently, the pilot gave time remaining, and the tower requested quantity in lbs.
@Kay_213_6 жыл бұрын
Since when did Air Marshalls become what they were supposed to prevent?
@russell29524 жыл бұрын
Since they started advertizing for the position on late night TV and in pizza boxes.
@johnboyjr214 жыл бұрын
@ Air marshalls always had guns idiot
@johnboyjr214 жыл бұрын
@ Wow so you're saying air marshals didn't exist before 9/11?
@johnboyjr214 жыл бұрын
@ Yeahhh screw Israel. And air marshals had guns in 1961
@TitanFlare3 жыл бұрын
@@johnboyjr21 well, Air Marshal are employees are TSA. TSA was created after 9/11. So
@JustDefense Жыл бұрын
Almost certainly a quota hire. Stunning and brave.
@shaleyvale2723 жыл бұрын
If you challenge a flight attendent, you're going to have a bad day, lol.
@wessltov4 жыл бұрын
"You can trust me, I have a gun!"
@evergriven74026 жыл бұрын
VASAviation ALWAYS great Videos , GREAT graphics to follow along
@georgetheofanous67924 жыл бұрын
Just when you think you've seen it all.
@TheNameOfJesus3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to know when a person who comments on KZbin is right or wrong, (this page in particular has lots of contradictory comments) but at 7:54 the pilot actually says he didn't know he had FAMs on board. That's a crucial piece of information that we can probably believe is true at least some of the time. I was under the impression from a book that I read 30 years ago that FAMs actually met the flight crew before take-off in special secure areas of the terminal so that the flight crew would know from personally seeing them who is carrying the weapons. But now we know that some flight crews do not see the FAMs in advance. That's surprising and interesting. I presume that the events of 9/11 in 2001 precipitated many changes to the FAM process.