ATC Zero is probably the most 'nightmaring' situation for an Air Traffic Controller.... BIG LIKE FOR THESE GUYS!!! Previous video (Captain incapacitated in mid-air) --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpyXgoKiYrl3f6M
@ronwilliams3577 жыл бұрын
I'm a controller in the U.S. (FAA) and it's not really a "nightmare" -- we use what's called "positive separation" which means aircraft are never on collision courses with each other, and especially in the terminal environment like here, arrival, departures and overflights are already procedurally separated (by route, altitude, or speed control). Since new arrivals and departures are stopped, it's more of an annoyance to get everyone onto the right frequency (departures to the overlying center, arrivals already on approach to the tower, and overflights into hold).
@ronwilliams3577 жыл бұрын
They had the radios because obviously we can hear them! They may not have known it though.
@1dgram7 жыл бұрын
Ron Williams My guess is that they were using handheld radios while they were waiting for their regular radios to come back up.
@ronwilliams3577 жыл бұрын
We don't have handheld radios in the FAA. Our radio system is based on dedicated phone lines to the transmitters which are spread out. They're powered separately.
@1dgram7 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that gone are the days of the emergency battery-powered transceivers talked about in the now canceled FAA order 6510.4A?
@MrJdsenior7 жыл бұрын
And all the passengers in all these planes sit calmly in the back knowing NOTHING exceptional is going on.
@thomaspayne68665 жыл бұрын
John Sikes -- now I will download LiveATC and listen to my pilots. 😩
@Moon-Jelly5 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspayne6866 be careful with that if you in ANY way intercept its.. A) illegal B) 10x more dangerous
@thomaspayne68665 жыл бұрын
Disassociated -- it’s in the App Store homie. It’s public information. How do you think you’re listening to atc in this video?
@jalenholmes24265 жыл бұрын
A n g e l o Exactly how is it illegal...
@deephorizon13655 жыл бұрын
@@Moon-Jelly You cannot transmit with LiveATC, only listen.
@ellenorbjornsdottir11667 жыл бұрын
This is basically the ATC declaring a mayday
@VASAviation7 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha great comment! :)
@rc300xs7 жыл бұрын
Ellenor Malik best comment ever!
@erictaylor54627 жыл бұрын
"Mayday" Comes from the French for "Help me." I think it's more ATC calling to say, "I can't help you." Kind of the opposite of "Mayday"
@TheMrJuoji7 жыл бұрын
i think not, in french(wish i am) help me is said(a l'aide) or (aider moi), the way mayday sound would be near from (moi aider) wish translate to, me helping but not while refering to yourself , but more like me helping you,also, moi aider isn't a correct way of saying it it would be (moi, j'aide) or (moi, je t'aide)
@samuelchung77837 жыл бұрын
it's from this apparently: "venez m'aider"
@faudanke44597 жыл бұрын
Welcome to FSX steam edition
@fionn42527 жыл бұрын
LOLWTF673 LOL
@dcalho7 жыл бұрын
LOLWTF673 airforceproud95 would rate the professionalism in this situation with a 6/9
@faudanke44597 жыл бұрын
AFP95 would communicate with the planes using tin cans and wire
@roudydogg17 жыл бұрын
AFP95 would suggest you send your requests to the blog
@faudanke44597 жыл бұрын
Blog affirmative
@justbass2527 жыл бұрын
0:31 Gotta love how all the pilots do a roll call ;)
@sifujamie6 жыл бұрын
"red five standing by"
@finmueller78276 жыл бұрын
Reminds me when I was in elementary school
@snowboard4245 жыл бұрын
sifujamie I know this comment is 10 months old but I just laughed out loud at that
@nathaliechaparro5 жыл бұрын
Yeah very cute
@buddyclem73284 жыл бұрын
I'm imagining a Power Rangers scenario, where all pilots sound off, followed by a scene where they all share the same cockpit of one huge airplane.
@tampazeke45873 жыл бұрын
As passengers we never know all the heroics that go on behind the scenes to keep us safe. Thank you to all pilots, crew and ATCs!
@thewhitefalcon85396 жыл бұрын
"Everybody on this frequency, we've lost all communications" ...
@jumbledsiren81905 жыл бұрын
Lol wtf
@Shadowtail5 жыл бұрын
I think they mean main communications. If you notice, all ATC transmissions contain a lot more static than usual, so they're probably using backup or even handheld transceivers to communicate.
@jumbledsiren81905 жыл бұрын
@@Shadowtail r/wooosh
@davidhenderson34004 жыл бұрын
@CalvinV7 I just see the mad dash pulling the handhelds out of the closet and ripping packs of AA batteries open and trying to cram them in the radios.
@jaredvoorhees86174 жыл бұрын
Had that happen in the army once. I was able to transmit but couldn't receive anything.
@windowssonic59535 жыл бұрын
Stress on a normal day: 10 Stress during power outage: *10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000*
@luvondarox3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, I was expecting Ye Olde "Over 9000" joke.
@DBR003 жыл бұрын
You’re missing 1 zero, but I’ll let it slide. :)
@UnclePengy Жыл бұрын
@@luvondarox "It's an older meme, sir, but it checks out."
@HS-zm4ow7 жыл бұрын
The controllers did a superb job handling this
@MickNJ19794 жыл бұрын
They get trained use note pads and position reports plus each aircraft has inboard raidar they can see each other as well as transponders
@MattandtheBeckinator7 жыл бұрын
I love how calm everyone is. It gives me great confidence to step on to an aircraft knowing that even in extremely high pressure situations, the atc and pilots don't panic and just move to plan b.
@mrz804 жыл бұрын
When the fecal matter splatters the rotary impeller you don't have TIME to panic. You just clench your gut, work your lists, and keep your eyeballs all over the sky :D
@jarredjordaan3376 жыл бұрын
ATControlers are acturly trained to work in situations with no radar. Technically how they did it in the old days with maps and pins and where pilots keep informing them of their local so ye this is an extremely stressful job
@carbon12554 жыл бұрын
True but the margin for error was kept a lot wider then.
@DiabloOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
... and paper strips.
@alyx6427 Жыл бұрын
yeah but stuff now is designed assuming radar is working so obviously gonna be a lot harder (even tho i would assume they're all properly trained to work with zero radar)
@strato1727 жыл бұрын
I was flying in the airspace just after the power outage. And weather wasn't great either. Tough day
@VASAviation7 жыл бұрын
Indeed :S
@YaofuZhou7 жыл бұрын
Pro like blind chess! Imagine the ATC guy and lady doing all the work with hand held radios!
@keyworksales62415 жыл бұрын
People have literally been doing this since the advent of the plane and airport.
@weasle29044 жыл бұрын
@@keyworksales6241 Pretty sure people back then didn't have to be ATCs for dozens of aircraft every hour at Miami airport...
@paralinq4 жыл бұрын
"Wow, that guy just went off that jump with that BMX bike like a pro!" This guy: "People have been LITERALLY doing that since bikes were invented"
@YaofuZhou4 жыл бұрын
kidovate good BMX reference there ·_-
@paralinq4 жыл бұрын
@@YaofuZhou "Wow, they just landed that plane perfectly!" The person in this thread: "People have literally been doing this since the Advent of the plane and the airport." Better?
@burningisis7 жыл бұрын
Wow! Big respect to these gentlemen and ladies. It must be terrifying being so blind.
@jacobdoolan49783 жыл бұрын
If you remembered this comment, your crazy
@brendadryden3563 жыл бұрын
I always knew air traffic controllers had a difficult job, but this gives me a whole new respect for them.
@NikosWings7 жыл бұрын
And my question is, in today's world of redundancies and fail-over standby power backups, how in the hell is this possible and who is responsible for this mess?
@NikosWings7 жыл бұрын
Thomas2013000 I didn't but I would have if I was flying in the area that day and time
@williameudy6337 жыл бұрын
Theoretically when the computer goes down the screens can be pulled out and lay flat like a table. Small pieces of transparent acetate can be placed over the primary targets to identify them. If there is no radar the controllers can look at their sector map and visualize where the planes are by radio communications and keeping track of them with notations of their clearances on the paper strips. They call it "manual control" and it's the first thing they learn at the FAA academy in Oklahoma City. That's what these controllers were attempting to do but, in place like Miami, it's a pipe dream.
@metaph3r7 жыл бұрын
Every system has a certain failure probability. Redundancy can lower it but it will never be 0.
@TankEnMate6 жыл бұрын
The most common cause of complete power loss is back up power systems (generators, batteries, etc) not being tested fully and regularly.
@Dowlphin6 жыл бұрын
The only thing keeping a system from 'virtually 100%' reliability is (enforced) resource scarcity, which is a big thing in the USA. Many incidents, even when rare occurences, could still have been easily avoided, but saving lives is always weighted against profitability. (That's why I personally don't consider air travel safer than car travel. Too many variables not in my control.) Human error is often a result of that situation, too. Basically, these things are symptoms and warning signs of flaws in the system that need to be fixed and actually needed to be fixed earlier but weren't. "Professionality" is to some degree a damn PR myth.
@perstephanies5 жыл бұрын
This sounds like an extraordinary level of communication and cooperation in an emergency. They all sound focused and professional.
@bazzinbulgaria48267 жыл бұрын
I've had this happen to me only once in my flying history....I'm talking about a real inflight experience, not on a simulator where you can pause the action and wonder about what to do next...the real deal with real big lumps of metal, full of real people, flying blind in very close company with other big lumps of metal! Someone was on my side that night...because I had enough fuel and remaining endurance, I was able to fly back up to cruising altitude and return to my departure point, but it was a very tense 10 minutes. Just in case anyone is wondering, the intended airport was under a very heavy mortar attack and EVERYTHING was out of action and at around 3am, it was very dark...TCAS was not something commonly found on aircraft back then. I like this video, mainly because I can hear everyone trying really hard to make it work....doing their jobs to the best of their ability and calling on every inch of their experience to keep you safe.
@ajmomoho7 жыл бұрын
Where were you flying?
@bazzinbulgaria48267 жыл бұрын
It was in SE Asia, during the Vietnam era...very near the border with Cambodia.
@bazzinbulgaria48267 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It all seems so very long ago and such a waste!!
@cadetrenew7 жыл бұрын
if you don't mind me asking, what kind of aircraft?
@bazzinbulgaria48267 жыл бұрын
I don't mind at all...it was a DHC-4, Caribou. (general purpose dump truck).
@gunpro28667 жыл бұрын
Good Lord....that is a Next Level Cluster F*ck. God bless ATCs.
@rockym29313 жыл бұрын
The definition of professionalism, on the ground and in the cockpits.
@MiloFlying3 жыл бұрын
It’s so satisfying when the ATC asks if they can hear them and all of the aircraft’s come back one after another
@MTGThrownDown7 жыл бұрын
being a air traffic controller must be helluva stressful. mad props to the men and women during this
@Xezlec2 жыл бұрын
Hehe "props"
@casanova4193 жыл бұрын
They actually found Johnny Henshaw-Jacobs holding the power plug in his hand singing The tower, the tower! Rapunzel, Rapunzel!
@TheErod1944Channel7 жыл бұрын
I've been in a FAA Radar Site. The backup power at that site was well thought out. Backup consisted of two large generators plus a huge room full of Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) batteries. For a site of this type to "go black" something extraordinary bad and unusual would have to occur. The site I visited was on a mountain top and had on-site personnel 24/7. There was also a "comments mention" of the time required to place backup generators on line - the suggestion was "5 minutes". While I don't know the start-up parameters at an FAA site, numerous large Telco sites have Backup Generators that come on line within a matter of seconds with 50 Kilowatts to 1 Megawatt after the loss of commercial primary power. The generators are kept warm when not running with coolant heaters and oil heaters. There's also the possibility that the radar was fine but they lost the communications feed to ATC on a microwave or fiber route.
@stevenyau24437 жыл бұрын
they probably lost power in the control room not the radio arrays and they probably use a single large UPS for the whole room which explains the loss of everything
@TheErod1944Channel7 жыл бұрын
Yep. You could be right. After all, "stuff" happens....!
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi6 жыл бұрын
im with you @the erod...etc ive been working on sites where contractors doing airport maint. work have severed the fibre link between the shacks and tower, took less than a minute to change over to the secondary system. Wernt as many aircraft in the pattern, but no delay. they were even quicker sending a car out to find the unlucky sod who cut it as well.
@Tonatsi6 жыл бұрын
The Erod1944 Channel no, they specifically mentioned no power
@thomasesr4 жыл бұрын
The thing about having a UPS room filled with batteries and a generator before that, is that if there is something between the UPS room and the Control room that let the magic smoke out and takes down the Circuit Breaker or RCBO in the room, if there isn't battery backups in each individual equipment, then there is no use for UPS or Generator because those are mitigating for external power issues. This is most likely an internal power issue, and the person responsible for restoring the power had to first identify what caused it, remove it from the grid and then reset the breakers, plus the time to boot all the equipment. That is why In a hospital for instance all the life support equipment either comes with internal batteries or have an external dedicated UPS for at least 30min of autonomy. Even the servers in the server room had dual power supplies each connected to a different UPS unit inside the room to avoid any downtime.
@roaringskiesstudios94537 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from these videos! I'm planning to become ATC, even though im just a kid im starting early. Any terms i hear i dont know i look them up, then once i know i use them in my ATC simuilator (unmatched atc)
@dingle8497 жыл бұрын
RoaringSkiesStudios Try Endless ATC if you wanna control airspaces.
@missing91127 жыл бұрын
Roaring... Good luck. Nice to see wanting the job for the love of it.
@JusticeSevenfold7 жыл бұрын
PASSwordUSERname better yet, use VATSIM. it's free and you use real world procedures and phraseology and can choose to control anywhere in the world
@roaringskiesstudios94537 жыл бұрын
JusticeSevenfold thanks I'll check it out !!
@labanjohnson7 жыл бұрын
join VATSIM, you will learn all the real-world procedures and radio terms. You will get to control virtual traffic people on flight simulator who want real air traffic control not computer. It's fun. I worked JFK from clearance delivery to ground, tower and departure. I worked with lots of great kids who all grew up to work in aviation, many are FAA controllers and pilots now. We all keep in touch :)
@OfficialShadowKing7 жыл бұрын
one of the busiest airports and it doesn't have back up power for the essential and ATC tower??? what the fuck is that
@Obi1nacobi17 жыл бұрын
Algorithimic Process they do have backup power it just takes a while to boot up. Also, if my friend at MIA center told me correctly the tech is ancient at MIA center.
@Boodieman727 жыл бұрын
Why aren't they running at the same time as they can switch over instantly.
@techcheckreviewde24937 жыл бұрын
Boodieman72 Costs. And environment. It makes no sense to let really really big diesel generators run 24/7/365. They would also break every year or so, and would need refuel allthetime. Just makes no goddamn sense. They have backup batteries to immediately kick in, but they can only power ILS/Basic radio stuff. Not a MW radar.
@Boodieman727 жыл бұрын
Then they need to fix it so they do have battery backup for radar, at least enough time for backup generators to start up and stabilize.
@fontsweetwater26657 жыл бұрын
welcome to Miami.
@nuclearthreat5456 жыл бұрын
Thank you to the amazing ATC and Pilots for working through all of this with NO RADAR
@allenlark4 жыл бұрын
This is like the cash register going down at Chipotle all over again.
@AlexChristian4 жыл бұрын
Ah, another man of culture. Nothing made for a bad day like the crash kit coming out....
@TheGreenCouncil3 жыл бұрын
Except with high stakes
@sludge41253 жыл бұрын
Oh, man, the humanity!!! Did you guys get *any* lunch? Did they tell you to drive to the location six miles away and just keep driving around the block? I am actually shaking just thinking about it.
@allenlark3 жыл бұрын
@@sludge4125 we got free lunches so that really wasnt the problem. It was having to write every item on carbon reciepts and only accept cash and customers getting pissed while we add their orders up and make change and tell them we cant take their card.
@sludge41253 жыл бұрын
@@allenlark gotcha. 🤪🤪🤪🤪
@alexandrabcdn46927 жыл бұрын
😬😳 I learned something new today.....have never healed of ATC Zero!! That must have been quite a scene at ATC. They did a good job....although you could hear that bit of extra tension in their voices. Thanks VASAviation 👍🏻
@VASAviation7 жыл бұрын
You learned something? That makes my work be worth! :)
@coltonbonnell82176 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to me how everyone worked together to avoid further incident.
@AflacMan134 жыл бұрын
When ATC loses power like that... they gotta go old school... REALLY old school. Like from the ancient days of aviation when radar didn't yet exist. All paper tracking, map plotting, altitude mapping, and mass glide slope calculations. Stress in that control room went through the ROOF that day for certain!
@mikegallant8114 жыл бұрын
Pucker factor!
@humblenoob76312 жыл бұрын
sounds like a movie lol, imagining the “alright, I guess we gotta do it the old fashioned way” from the old guy
@barzu82666 ай бұрын
or they could just pull up fr24..
@Silenthunter1996 жыл бұрын
ACC controllers: WE LOST ALL RADARS! WE CAN'T SEE ANYTHING! Procedural approach controllers: *laughs loudly*
@m1co2946 жыл бұрын
Silenthunter199 ATC Controllers: WE LOST ALL RADARS!! WERE BLIND!! Airforceproud95 aka AnalPound69: Sounds like a personal problem.... blog it
@Nummer3787 жыл бұрын
I guess the UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) was working (else the radio would be down too), but apparently a lot of their systems went down though and it took them a while to reboot everything.
@tylisirn7 жыл бұрын
They could also be using handheld radios, which might explain why they're so unsure of people being able to hear them. Much weaker than their usual transmitters and further attenuated by being indoors.
@imzoltan4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, should have used SSDs for faster boot. XD
@jaalan78964 жыл бұрын
Yea but even commercial UPS dont last that long. If they didnt have a generator they would have like 30 minutes at absolute best.
@mrz804 жыл бұрын
@@jaalan7896 Lotta computers, radios, and radars all hanging off a big UPS, just waiting for the generator to spool up and the ATS to throw... Most redundant power scenarios nowadays design for a UPS capacity just big enough to hold the load up long enough for the generator to crank a couple times, start, and stabilize. No generator, no luck. :-| See it in IT all the time.
@coltonbonnell82177 жыл бұрын
I am just amazed at how everyone works together and communicates, but manages to keep their cool.
@1979hellcat4 жыл бұрын
Their job is stressful enough. I can’t imagine that! 😳 mad respect for everyone that day!
@santosh189013 жыл бұрын
I'm 12 and want to become an ATC
@nerdyism25233 жыл бұрын
@@santosh18901 Do good in school, learn as much as you can, read as much as you can, try not to play too many video games, FSX is fine. :)
@zaredt5 жыл бұрын
There is a great amount of work. Bravo, ATC
@111himan7 жыл бұрын
The backup generator could have broke a relay or low battery or whatever. Its likely stationed at a remote radar site instead of outside the offices so someone has to physically drive up to the radar to manually power on the generators. Sometimes it takes multiple starts with a complex system like this is likely very old like the rest of the ATC system. Airports with backup generators for ILS go down sometimes in test due to small unresolved issues. My local airport couldnt give ILS approaches for a day in bad weather because the backup system had failed and the tech had to be called in to replace a battery. Caused diversions due to bad weather
@joshworkman64553 жыл бұрын
@@Weuniok As someone who installs and maintains backup power systems I have to chime in here. First, no system is 100% fail safe. even with redundancies, the failure rate is never 0. Second, with facilities of these size, yes they do have backup up generator systems but keep this in mind: When power is lost, the generator has to wait, usually about 1 minutes before it fires up. It does this incase regular grid power comes back on in under that minute. After that minute the generator initiates it startup sequence which can take another minute or two. Once its warmed up, the system needs to engage the transfer switch which directs all or necessary circuits from regular grid power to backup generator power. Think of it like a giant light switch. The transfer switch computers needs to make sure the power coming from the generator is accurate in voltage and matches the equipment that will be drawing from it. If it doesn't do this, then you risk frying all the expensive ATC equipment and then they are offline good. Lastly the radar computers, radios. and servers take several minutes to boot back up after power has been restored. All in all this takes time for the backup generators to kick in and for equipment to boot back up. Its not like the movies, nothing is instant when backup power comes online.
@bolshoibooze80103 жыл бұрын
2:33 ATC: "Everybody on this frequency, use caution. We cannot see you on the radar" Everybody: "Gooood gooood...I am F-22 Raptor now"
@Dani-it5sy4 жыл бұрын
Everybody so calmly and than suddenly at about 7:30 there comes a woman that literally talks like a machine gun. LOL
@danielhartin76804 жыл бұрын
My God, she must be looped on uppers.
@Dani-it5sy3 жыл бұрын
@J Hemphill I see 👌 Changed it 😄
@Dani-it5sy3 жыл бұрын
@J Hemphill You nailed it 👌
@Dani-it5sy3 жыл бұрын
@J Hemphill 3rd language after Dutch and Norwegian 😁 There was a typo in the word ''Literally'' so that was what I changed. But I understand you mean she can't be ''literrally'' speaking like a machine gun. It is of course figurative. But some people say things this way to (try) and make their comment more funny. I got that from a Mr Jeremy Clarkson. One exaggerates and that makes the statement more funny without anyone actually missing the point of what you try to say. But we do agree that she speaks so fast it becomes a bit ridiculous right ? Considering how important it is that everyone understands her and the fact that if she would have to repeat herself once in a while she might actually loose more time than just saying it properly the first time.
@pmvaldez16 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when I had a police scanner and we had a massive power failure and listening to all the police traffic. Dispatch finally said if it's not a life or death situation, let it go and man the major intersections for traffic control.
@romegeorgiamanshannongeorg74132 жыл бұрын
Cool calm and collected Miami ATC in this Scenario. Awesome tower Awesome pilots.
@warthundercinematic.1134 жыл бұрын
ATC "We can't see you". :pilot tip toes across airspace: FAA "But we can, write down this number."
@routadu5 жыл бұрын
Just imagine 5-10 planes declaring engine failure or cabin fire at the same time
@Droop753 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t imagine being a pilot in a busy section like that flying blind, that had to be horrifying but they all remained so calm.
@metasystem86255 жыл бұрын
Tip: Put the "Pause to read" disclaimer on the top of the slide, rather than the bottom. I read top to bottom, and I need to read the disclaimer first for it to be useful.
@elliesagestar6 жыл бұрын
"Thanks, bye!" XD
@elliesagestar6 жыл бұрын
you can even see the question marks on the Flightradar24, seems like the airport was providing coverage for that area
@62Loralee6 жыл бұрын
Makes me so thankful for the years of being a Flight Attendant and never preparing the cabin for an Emergency. Thank God. Not saying we didn’t have Emergencies on board, we just never had to do an evacuation. Ugh
@takethel77465 жыл бұрын
This is AMAZING how well it was handled!!!!
@superandreanintendo5 жыл бұрын
Just imagine this during the berlin blockade where every 6 minute a plane would land at the allied airport
@Andrew114147 жыл бұрын
just as a heads up, at 6:10, the SIL117 was actually a Silver Airways Saab 340. Their callsign was Silverwings 117, not Silkwest :)
@leechjim80233 ай бұрын
Lost the bleeps, the creeps, and the sweeps! Look!! The radar appears to be JAMMED!!! Raspberry!😂🤣😂🤣
@mema00053 ай бұрын
I flew into Norwich once when they just dropped off the radio entirely for 10 mins. Us and the 3 helicopters inbound just started clearing each other, like an uncontrolled airspace. It was almost fun
@Evangelionism6 жыл бұрын
*"4 1/2 miles to the south of **#LUVLY**."* What a world.
@bchadaway74696 жыл бұрын
No critical infrastructure in South Florida should be without a backup generator, and a backup to the backup. Crazy that this could happen.
@GathKingLeppbertI4 жыл бұрын
Miami ATC: looks like we picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!
@janetmiller21605 жыл бұрын
Here during a local power outage, 911 communication went black because back-up generators were not working. I wound up talking to Colorado Highway Patrol, trying to report power was out that winter night. All ended well.
@PAXperMortem5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if there'd been an emergency during the blackout.
@corydavey30263 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for tcas and position reporting
@matte63525 жыл бұрын
“There’s only one man here who dare give me the raspberry... LONESTAR!”
@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts5 жыл бұрын
Talk about cool handling of the situation, this is where all that training starts to really matter
@nathanhardin69926 жыл бұрын
Nice seeing pilots and atc working together to get it sorted back out.
@scotty5237 жыл бұрын
Since I heard there was weather in vicinity, it sounded like most flights had fuel to play with. However, as a dispatcher myself, this also could've been a nightmare for a dispatcher who didn't plan extra fuel to handle such an emergency on a VFR/beautiful day.
@astrodoobs4 жыл бұрын
These center controllers handled it like absolute CHAMPS. They all need a serious pay raise.
@MiloFlying3 жыл бұрын
That’s some skilled ATC right there
@joshblackie087 жыл бұрын
Another great video!
@VASAviation7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Josh! :)
@joshsanderson55127 жыл бұрын
VASAviation - another great video
@Barefoot0Walker4 жыл бұрын
kudos to all the atc crews who kept everything going in the emergency. power failures are always disruptive. is there no backup? it’d seem that something as vital as radar would have some sort of redundant backup so that if the power failed, there’d be no loss of service. sorry, i don’t know much about aviation, so if my questions seem inane, forgive me for my lack of knowledge.
@Ray-Koto-McLellan2 жыл бұрын
Big old facilities like that have backup generator systems. But there is a delay before the Jenny's fire over in case normal power comes back on. And then it takes a little bit of time for those Genny's to fully power up and stabilize their output before it can be then transitioned into the building's grid otherwise you risk blowing millions of dollars worth of equipment. And if you hear the quality of the radio transmissions at the beginning where ATC is putting out the first calls. You can hear clean and clear radio but then after that it goes to very staticy. So that would be their backup battery systems beside their equipment on their floor allowed them to offline their equipment safely to avoid damage from a grid reboot. But back up battery units in that kind of a setting only have about 10 minutes worth of power for the amount of things that are plugged in. At home some of them would be able to last multiple hours because we'd only have one or two things plugged in.
@asphaltgypsy43902 жыл бұрын
"Oh great Charlie! Now we really have to fly this thing! Do you remember where we start?"
@dacmemarco55597 жыл бұрын
My goodness that one ATC worker spoke extremely fast. I get you have to keep a pace up, but geez, how did people understand what she was saying half the time. XD
@nz_planespotter40136 жыл бұрын
Botmon Teh Hero you get used to it
@EntoSanto6 жыл бұрын
You dont need to hear all sentences to understand the whole concept. Just pick what you need. 😀
@jasonbooth51416 жыл бұрын
You do it long enough it becomes second language
@silencedknight Жыл бұрын
As a no nothing, I can barely keep track of planes on a radar. How they do it without is nothing short of amazing.
@elvis51264 жыл бұрын
In soviet russia the ATC declares a emergancy
@janetmiller21605 жыл бұрын
I just survived watching the Kazakh flight no control in Portugal, and now this. Better sign off before my heart wears out.
when it is ATC screaming Mayday Mayday instead of the airplanes
@Surtistuff7 жыл бұрын
So their radio has backup power but not the radar?
@raymondliu30967 жыл бұрын
Dhrumil Shah (Personal) Radar takes more power
@justinclark92587 жыл бұрын
Dhrumil Shah (Personal) they said radios were down. Most likely using a hand held.
@JqnxyXyz7 жыл бұрын
I'd think radio would be the priority. If you have radio but no radar you can manually map it by hand. If you have radar but no radio you can watch dozens of aircraft waiting for instructions and you can't tell them anything.
@williamwatkins8217 жыл бұрын
Dhrumil Shah (Personal) could be hand radios that they were using, because they said at one point that their radios were just coming back
@user2C476 жыл бұрын
Also, an ATC asked if they could "be heard this time," which is likely when the main radio came online.
@AV4Life3 ай бұрын
Wow, this is insane. Massive tropical storm I’d imagine?
@AlecG02 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine how stressful this had to have been.
@mohpkhall6225 жыл бұрын
We need emergency candles if a power outage happens on a runway
@dx14504 жыл бұрын
This is nothing compared to that time when terrorists took over all communications and radar for Washington Dulles airport back in 1990. They even changed the ILS and made a plane crash. If not for one cop they'd have gotten away in a 747.
@potocatepetl3 жыл бұрын
And THIS is why I don't have this type of job. They are all calm and collected, I would be a panicked mess.
@nathanfogg91617 жыл бұрын
What's amazing that some of the pilots and controllers are very specific with location and direction, while otheres are completely vague. It really separates men from the boys in a way. Glad it all worked out. (I am not involved in aviation)
@9662e3 жыл бұрын
And bsb people say that healthcare workers are heroes whilst these brave people are flying with passengers on board during these times and people dont say anything... the government is such a disgrace
@DAIadvisor4 жыл бұрын
I hope they have subtitles in the cocpit too, because there's no way in hell anyone can understand what the hell they're muttering on the friggin radio
@Limbwalker10003 жыл бұрын
BOOM BOOM.....OUT GO THE RUNWAY LIGHTS TOO...!!
@nickv40737 жыл бұрын
Very professional reaction to a crisis. Kudos to Miami ATC.
@simongaming7477 жыл бұрын
ATC delcaring massive mayday!
@michael77383 жыл бұрын
Out of couriosity: What is meant by "switch to VFR"? I understand the difference between IFR and VFR. But isn't it a huge risk if multiple jets approach Miami and everyone has to look out of their windows to prevent any collisions? Or is every pilot just putting trust in their TCAS? In general aviation it might be not a big deal, but I don't understand how it works with huge airports.
@ih82r83 жыл бұрын
"We can't see you...soooo don't run into each other."
@dylanmurphy79427 жыл бұрын
How does he find the atc footage? Thanks!
@markhealy70887 жыл бұрын
Dylan Murphy liveatc.net Probably. You can listen to archived recordings there too
@dylanmurphy79427 жыл бұрын
Thanks :-)
@bobbypaluga43467 жыл бұрын
Every aircraft lost the use of its ability to view out the wind shield, as well as the ability of the ground to see aircraft. Scary as hell given the speed of the aircraft and how useless unaided personal vision in an airborne aircraft might be. The lack of a backup is shocking, remember the jackass that blew up the Chicago center and how long I took to return the entire national system to normal?
@ronjonnj017 жыл бұрын
How the hell does this happen at a major airport and major airspace? What happened to the backup generators?
@UnclePengy Жыл бұрын
I imagine controllers grabbed the old spyglasses for this one and started doing things the old fashioned way.
@ronjonnj017 жыл бұрын
Wow if this doesn't highlight the need for infrastructure improvements nothing will.
@HerveBoisde7 жыл бұрын
But this is America and we would rather spend an additional trillion $ on the military rather than spend on infrastructure or anything that actually benefits he average American.
@tomservo50076 жыл бұрын
herve b: But the knowledge learned from solving military problems will be applied to civilian use. Radar loss is a military problem too.
@Lemonminer5 жыл бұрын
I mean I guess it’s better that it happened to the ATC and not on board any of the airplanes.
@kenpalmer19652 ай бұрын
For the pilots, that has got to be pretty damn alarming when the towers tell them they cannot see them on the radar and can do nothing for them!
@kevinjrjbyrne7 жыл бұрын
9TB is that Steveo in the TBM
@breathoffreshair2457 жыл бұрын
I think he's 851TB ??
@mattd6931 Жыл бұрын
Mayday, Mayday, Mayday, Miami ATC declaring an emergency.
@screaminlordbyron77674 жыл бұрын
These ATC were the fuckin A Team man. Did anyone else get the whole thing with SWA3655? there was a lot going on but the female ATC kept calling.. followed by him at one point. I thought they were goners seriously. I was so relieved when they got back on radio. Then there's the guy who just casually says oh yeah I didn't think of that at the end about the localizer or whatever.. but then immediately comes up with a solution. These are the kind of ATC that make the difference in situations like these! Thank you for your fine work!