Real Lawyer Reacts: Are the Menendez Brothers Being Released?!

[@CharlotteRealtorNina]

35 yearsssss they have been in prison without getting in trouble!? While helping disabled inmates and teaching them how to negotiate for better living situations and helping rehabilitate others. While never ever thinking their was a possibility getting out. They have never ever changed their story. Their family was on their side. The second trial was completely not a fair trial as the first one was that ended up a mistrial. 35 years is enough! I think anyone that the laws have changed around their sentencing should be resentenced. I wish they would be home for Christmas!

[@tara_p7w]

Exactly. They're not trouble makers like some are making them out to be. I read that one of the brothers, Lyle, had to be transferred to the special needs yard because he would never defend himself and fight back when other prisoners would attack him. He hasn't gotten into a fight in 30 years and people think they're a danger to society?? Give me a break smh

[@russgibbs8148]

They were adults when they committed the murders. They weren't abused children at the time. How is that ok to let someone be executioner after the fact. Someone who kills first without changing their life situation is sick and can never be trusted.

[@tara_p7w]

@@russgibbs8148 They were adults but mentally they were children and that was confirmed by psychologists who evaluated them when they were in jail. And yes, one of the brothers was STILL being abused and the father even ordered him to go upstairs to be SA'd after they had a fight. That was a threat and they acted in self-defense. It doesn't matter if you're an adult, if someone has suffered years of abuse and their abuser threatens them, they have a right to defend themselves which is what the brothers did

[@russgibbs8148]

​@Tina-i69m I was abused as well and I never killed my father.As a matter of fact ,when I turned 18 I shoved him down some stairs when he attacked my Mom. I would never take another person's life. Explain justification for killing the mother as an adult.

[@justthatgirl-ct4jo]

I don't completely disagree with you, but I think 35 years is pretty fair in this case. ​@@russgibbs8148

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

this is an opportunity for the judicial system to EVOLVE. we HAVE to change the way victims are treated, especially children.

[@badtits8982]

They aren't victims at all. They were adults that murdered two unarmed people that were sitting and watching television.

[@kirstysmith3272]

@@wellthisisinteresting4912 thankyou ❤️

[@nellym.6555]

@@wellthisisinteresting4912 So if a minor kills your loved one, you would not ask for justice for your loved one because the murderer has traumas from his childhood. Brilliant.

[@AlbertoThecheater]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣another idiot

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

@@AlbertoThecheater ah yes, thank you for your intelligent contribution to the conversation :)

[@UnLocked-85]

but what really speaks volumes is that although they believed they would never be released they still sought to make others lives better and their own and been exemplary inmates knowing they would never see light of day. tides are turning and i truly believe prison reform is so desperately needed

[@daniellenicole8712]

I thought the exact same thing. They knew they would have life without parole and created all these programs.

[@PupsMom]

If they let them out, it is setting a dangerous precident. They had other choices on getting away from their parents. They were old enough to be independent outside the house. They did not have to buy shotguns and kill them as they watched tv. They were not in imminent danger.

[@1tigerr1]

@@PupsMom see other people have been saying this, but i disagree. imo, jmo, they were told on multiple occasions by there father not to tell anyone or he would k*ll them. i take this as if they tried to leave, father would come after them. they lived in fear every day. erik was looking forward to leaving for college to live on campus and escape the abuse and his dad said no, you are not leaving this house. i mean come on with the "they could of left" theory.

[@peanutbutterbruv]

​@@PupsMomJose made it clear he would not stop r/aping Erik. He was in imminent danger.

[@Chloe-nh6oj]

Bleeding heart. No wonder our inner cities are killing fields.

[@Mandy-lp4lg]

Abuse on kids is never ok, nor is unaliving of parents. My thought is if Gypsy Rose was freed, Menendez brothers should be considered as well.

[@lauradrew1814]

There are so many differences in those cases though. 1. Different jurisdiction 2. GR didn't commit the actual murder 3. The Menendez bros killed 2 people etc etc etc

[@laurad324]

And Gypsy was only in for like 8 years .

[@jazzyg530]

They didn't act like parents! If Jose and Kitty were arrested and tried for what they did to those children (and there are believed to be additional victims) they would have died in prison.

[@patchlindy]

If the SA was real, they should get parole. Not entirely freed yet, but paroled for a while until they can prove to the o parole board they are safe to released into society.

[@kateashby3066]

@@lauradrew1814jurisdiction is moot as we are discussing ethics. And GR manipulated a mentally challenged man to kill her mother for her. To place her in a different box as if she’s totally different is a bit naive, IMHO. Trauma is trauma and it can make us do crazy stuff. But if we want to heal and work towards that, why shouldn’t those of us harmed by those we trusted to protect us have another shot at life? I’m in the same boat. Some choose to do evil for personal gratification (like Ted Bundy). Some do it out of pain (trauma). I say that the latter at LEAST deserves to be given a CHANCE. Parole is just that- closely watched and only granted if it’s been EARNED.

[@lindaselin8337]

"I took it to be love and that's what I want" . My stomach aches the more I know about this case. Their childhood and youth was horrible. They don't deserve to be in prison for the rest of their lives. Free the menendez brothers! You're great to listen to Peter. Open-minded and you seem to believe in the good in people. You possess a graciousness and warmth that I enjoy listening to. Hello from Sweden 🇸🇪

[@MelodieKate]

The real problem is child abuse victims get stuck at a young age. It is hard to ever fill free. I was 32 before I felt strong enough to walk away from my abusers. Thankfully I never murdered them. It was a thought when I was very young. Hope they have some peace.

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

I am sorry you had that experience. I hope you are doing well now.

[@MummyBrown]

Exactly. This was a case of CPTSD and learned helplessness. The neuroscience backs that the brain changes when raised with such abuse. People don’t realize that they weren’t only molested, they were regularly brutalized by both parents.

[@MummyBrown]

​@@InLieuTube First and foremost, trauma is most definitely a fact that is backed by psychology and neuroscience as a whole. Trauma, sadly, is a base issue for many in the prison system regardless of skin color and socioeconomic scale. The more that we recognize the part that this plays in our societal ills, the better equipped we'll be at preventing and even working to rehabilitate people that are going to be out in the streets one day and possibly in your neighborhood. In many states, pedos don't get much time at all. There are also plenty of states that have given less than 15 years for a single murder. For ALL of us, consideration and rehabilitation should be considered because that's at the crux of recidivism rates. Dr. Gabor Maté speaks directly to this in his trauma based prison work. Dr. Mate is a respected Canadian physician in the field of addiction, childhood development, and trauma. He regularly speaks to how trauma is a big part of the prison system that is worth researching for yourself if you want to know more about how this affects us all as a society. As far as Ed Kemper is concerned, the key element here is gauging risk to society. Though YES Ed Kemper was clearly a product of his abuse, he also brutally murdered 10 people. He also continued to brutalized them in the way of necrophilia and dismemberment. I don't think that the Kemper case is a realistic, let alone fair, comparison to make with the Menendez case. You might compare Kemper to Ed Gein or Carl Panzram, maybe even Charles Manson, but not this case. Realistically, cases differ and they need to be seen on a case by case basis. Life isn't black and white. The Menendez case has already been considered as a trauma based case that was not seen as it should've been in the 90's by many in the seats that count. You may not agree, and that's fine, that's your right. As someone that has dealt with my own elements of what they have, including enabling parents and family, I get it.

[@MummyBrown]

@@InLieuTube First and foremost, trauma is most definitely a fact that is backed by psychology and neuroscience as a whole. Trauma, sadly, is a base issue for many in the prison system regardless of skin color and socioeconomic scale. The more that we recognize the part that this plays in our societal ills, the better equipped we'll be at preventing and even working to rehabilitate people that are going to be out in the streets one day and possibly in your neighborhood. In many states, pedos don't get much time at all. There are also plenty of states that have given less than 15 years for a single murder. For ALL of us, consideration and rehabilitation should be considered because that's at the crux of recidivism rates. Dr. Gabor Maté speaks directly to this in his trauma based prison work. Dr. Mate is a respected Canadian physician in the field of addiction, childhood development, and trauma. He regularly speaks to how trauma is a big part of the prison system that is worth researching for yourself if you want to know more about how this affects us all as a society. As far as Ed Kemper is concerned, the key element here is gauging risk to society. Though YES Ed Kemper was clearly a product of his abuse, he also brutally murdered 10 people. He also continued to brutalized them in the way of necrophilia and dismemberment. I don't think that the Kemper case is a realistic, let alone fair, comparison to make with the Menendez case. You might compare Kemper to Ed Gein or Carl Panzram, maybe even Charles Manson, but not this case. Realistically, cases differ and they need to be seen on a case by case basis. Life isn't black and white. The Menendez case has already been considered as a trauma based case that was not seen as it should've been in the 90's by many in the seats that count. You may not agree, and that's fine, that's your right. As someone that has dealt with my own elements of what they have, including enabling parents and family, I get it.

[@amandamacabre]

@@InLieuTubeI don't think Ed Kemper is a great comparison since he didn't kill only his mom. She also wasn't his first victim. For what it's worth though, a psychiatrist did try to claim murdering his grandparents was a way to "avenge" the rejection of his parents. I couldn't connect those dots for you though. 😅 In any case, I think it's a bad comparison to the Menendez brothers because the only people they killed were the people they claim were a danger to their wellbeing. It's not self defense in the legal sense, but I would argue it's at least a form of self preservation. Kemper was troubled, but in a very different way that makes him a threat to the general public in a way that the brothers are not.

[@luannewalshmatthew2929]

I firmly believe they committed a horrific crime and also endured a horrendous childhood. For that reason, I am hoping they are released with time served. 🤞

[@laurad324]

Same

[@TRIGGEREDHarambe]

Idk, they committed a horrific crime with no remorse until trial. They planned this months in advance. What to say, they didn't plan the letters?

[@shamina1908]

​@TRIGGEREDHarambe Exactly. I was abused as a child, so I support real victims (idk if they were abused or not), but there are plenty in prison who were abused. I wonder how people would feel if all the other abused murders are released?

[@kateashby3066]

@@TRIGGEREDHarambe as someone who has a ton of childhood trauma inflicted by parents, we can be capable of horrible things but that doesn’t make us evil. From One who is being rehabilitated to the M. Brothers… I think they deserve a chance. If they’ve rehabilitated themselves with LIFE in prison- they I say they’ve earned a parole hearing at the least. 🙏

[@haileyhathorn2ndaccou]

@@TRIGGEREDHarambe if thats what u claim letters wouldnt be evidence. Cuz they watch their every move in prison and phone calls. Plus theres evidence of pics of their... That their dad took of. Clearly u have not seen the full trials. Plus 56 witnesses. So u dont even have a right of an opinion of this case if u dont know shit. There is literally proof. Im sure if they were woman you would 100 percent believe in them

[@Whitterswhit]

I hope they get out. With that being said, I hope there’s a plan in place to help them. I can only imagine how tough it would be to re acclimate after so long.

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

there is a plan! their lawyer said so. The brothers have a lot of support from their family, wives and lawyers. I'm sure it will be challenging but they won't be alone.

[@BookishDark]

YES. Can you imagine going to prison in the late 80’s/early 90’s and stepping into today’s society? Holy hell talk about a culture shock.

[@kimymarie596]

I think they’ve served their time and no longer a danger to society

[@watermelonice964]

I agree with you that they served their time. However, they were never a danger to society!

[@RescuePitties46]

@@InLieuTube well said! They were never a danger to society. They were never a danger to anyone, they just stopped their ab*sers.

[@DonnaJo3452]

@@InLieuTube That is exactly my feeling.

[@Hoodie_Queen55]

@@watermelonice964whilst I agree with this. They still needed to serve time.

[@kimincannes]

I remember watching this unfold in real time. It was horrific. I am team release for these brothers. I do appreciate how the legal arena seems to be finally making changes for the better. Hopefully, these men will be released and continue to do very well. A great incentive to be a good person, whether you're free or incarcerated. HOPE is a beautiful thing. I hope....

[@kirstysmith3272]

❤

[@MariaTucker-o5y]

I also remember this incident and trials. They were young then and made a bad choice. But they were also abused. They have grown up trying to be better. They deserve a second chance If the family is ok with release then who are we to judge

[@HeatherMax22]

I emailed the LA DA and said I felt they should be released. They actually responded, I was shocked.

[@tammyalbertsen9522]

They've been in over 30 years + the "under 26 years old at time of crime" Cal rule = a re-sentencing as the correct mechanism.

[@nicolemeinen450]

So happy to see you cover this! Been waiting, lol. Thanks! They have more than served their time. They have done wonderful things in prison, and I believe them

[@ronycampbell251]

This is brilliant news. Thanks for bringing this podcast to us today

[@Bucket_Pinata]

While no outcome is guaranteed, at least they are getting the opportunity to be heard.

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

I agree. I am sure that a big part of the pain they must have felt was due to the way society treated them. it must feel good to see the shift in how people view the case.

[@nobody-m4o]

Thank you, Peter. I cannot believe the amount of misinformation that's spreading because people do NOT listen. I've seen comments in various chats that they're going to be home for dinner tonight. Huh? What? Where do people get this? I'm sorry, but the more I see from people on KZbin, this is why I get very concerned with having a jury of my peers. People do NOT listen!!!

[@dazzlingextremes389]

You are so absolutely right and the more and more we have with these KZbin shorts tick tock things like that the more short people's attention span gets. I've been watching this show on Netflix called this Is Us and as much as I like it, I am astonished at how rapidly the plot changes and how quickly the scenes change and how it goes back and forth from one moment to the next and one family to the next and I think is this really how stimulating TV has to be for people to be enthralled these days?... Hard to just have a conversation with coworkers because they don't listen for more than 10 seconds and then when you tell them something they have no idea what you've said because the whole time you're talking, they're only thinking about what they're going to say back to you rather than actually stopping and hearing what you're saying. It's absurd.... It's terrifying frankly

[@freya6941]

Many listen for one minute then post a conclusion. It’s a human flaw in today’s social media world.

[@brendacurrie358]

plz do update on this case - history unfolding- i give this DA huge respect for his transparency!!!

[@CarrieLiketheM0vie]

Thank you, Peter! Your insight and expertise is really appreciated.

[@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016]

Replay crew. Wow! Great news! Waiting on resentencing! I pray it’s time served.

[@KateEleanor]

Thanks Peter. You are so engaging. ML from over the pond.

[@Sevenmyths]

I really hope they get to go home. I’m praying for these men 🙏

[@Morganpahner-j4n]

Thank you for braking that down for us Peter!

[@ciararyan9370]

They’ve been in prison for a long long time. I feel like allowing parole is the right thing to do. They’ve both done good things in prison, they were very young when they committed the crimes, and there were mitigating factors.

[@jakemiller4411]

Parole also isn’t total freedom. They would go back to prison if they did like anything else bad and they are constrained in where they are allowed to go

[@mindyrolston3915]

What goods things have they done? Serious question not being snarky

[@motherofwarriors456]

​@@mindyrolston3915i have the same question i keep seeing people bring that up but what did they do and how do we know?

[@BlueDauntless]

@@mindyrolston3915it’s in the video. They started different groups to help people overcome abuse. They’re model prisoners, which means they aren’t in gangs or involved in the violence that’s usually in a prison. The point is supposed to be to rehabilitate people after they commit a crime. These men would be a case of rehabilitated criminals. Now obviously not all criminals can be rehabilitated. But some, so it seems, can be.

[@wallyllama2926]

They are literally the reason anyone today even discusses family SA in boys, let alone in wealthy families.

[@RescuePitties46]

Well, the alter boy abuse scandal within the church was honestly the biggest scandal so to speak that led to a wide spread knowledge that boys are victims of SA and how secretive it was. The brothers have played a big role in the learning and understanding of male SA though, unfortunately, not when the brothers most needed that understanding.

[@snowcattish]

Uh...you are wildly mistaken. You are off by a few decades my dear.

[@wallyllama2926]

@@snowcattish I’m willing to hear. Do explain.

[@JenAgrippa]

That is a large large statement.

[@wallyllama2926]

@@JenAgrippa and?

[@cheserasera366]

Great coverage Peter.

[@susanhall6811]

Thank you Peter the way you break it down to make sense ❤

[@christineniering1233]

I watched this press conference Peter and was so glad to listen to your analysis and explanation of how this process will work. Am hoping these men are freed and that their boy souls can heal. 🙏😊

[@pugginspice]

I hope they have a chance to live freely 💕

[@Y-C999]

Thanks Peter, this was really interesting to watch and great that you're here to explain it all for us x

[@anitagendler3812]

Hello Peter! I hope the brothers are released soon! 😢Thank you for covering this case! ❤

[@KarenAZona]

Thanks for this Peter. Appreciate the insights. I do feel this is the right legal step.

[@BayBaeAngel]

It’s interesting to hear the opinions of those who were too young or not born at the time of the two trials. What a time! Menendez’s first trial with cameras in the court room, Rodney King trial (and subsequent riots), OJ trial with cameras in the courtroom, and then the botched and no cameras in courtroom and unfair 2nd Menendez trial. I recall being outraged by the injustice of that 2nd trial. The DA back then was a racket with the LAPD as their mobsters. I know there’s still so much improvement needed, especially with LAPD, but what a difference in how these matters are handled by the DA. Props to them for taking into account the desperation of these young men horrifically abused by the one of the victims. Personally, I don’t really understand why they had to murder their mom, but I get the desperation to stop the father when the system failed them as young children. To say they were “molested” and using the term SA instead of calling it what it was, (incestious R word) is a huge understatement. God bless these men for doing good in the world despite what they endured.

[@letticia2024]

Kitty was in the wrong place at the wrong time

[@dallascat70]

@@letticia2024 They knew she was there and blew her face off, one of the first cases I followed..I remember searching the picture for her face. Mercy on u

[@letticia2024]

@@dallascat70 you searched for the picture of Kitty Menendez to see her face?? That's sick! She failed her children tremendously, she knew about all the horrendous things her children were suffering but she only cared about her husband, the children developed a tremendous trauma, and unfortunately she also paid for the consequences of her wrong behavior as a mother, they all did wrong in that family, and they all paid a very high price for it

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

@@letticia2024 respectfully , I disagree that she was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. She actively terrorised her own children in various ways. She was just as abusive as Jose. And she also knew about Jose sexually abusing her sons. Both Lyle and Diane went to her about Lyle being molested. Her handwriting was on the envelope that the naked pictures of 6 yo Erik and 8 yo Lyle were found in. Kitty would keep the cousins away from the door of the room that Jose would be in with either of his sons and would turn up the tv volume to drown out the noises coming from the room. Many relatives testified about how abusive she was to Erik and Lyle. She molested Erik and Lyle. And she owned two shotguns. They thought both of their parents were going to k*ll then night. Lyle was actually more convinced that Kitty was going to k*ll them because of how much she hated Lyle. I do think she was a victim of Jose and her own childhood traumas, however, when you become abusive you are just as bad and I don't think she deserves too much sympathy.

[@letticia2024]

@@wellthisisinteresting4912 I'm not defending Kitty Menendez, in my opinion she has no defense, she was a bad mother to her children, and she paid the consequences, but when I think about whether she had been in the kitchen, or in her bedroom or somewhere else I'm not sure that Lyle and Erick would have also done to her the same thing that they did to Jose Menendez, I'm not sure, but I absolutely believe that Lyle and Erick suffered horrendous abuse from both Jose and Kitty Menendez, and I look forward to seeing the brothers free very soon.

[@michellegriffis1823]

Thank you for covering this Peter. I remember when the trials took place. This is great news. I do feel like we are watching history take place.

[@johnmartyn9018]

Thanks Peter for providing legal insight as well as a safe place to discuss these issues surrounding the Criminal Justice System & cases that have captured the popular society’s attention!

[@lindyc7847]

I don’t think they were ever a risk to wider society . They were just a risk to the people who physically and sexually abused them as little kids .Let them be free now

[@Clintsessentials]

Exactly this!!!

[@blackalien6873]

This is something the American system does not take into account. And why Americans scoff at the Scandinavian system which is less punitive. Is the purpose of the court system the safety of society or vengeance? Look at crime rates in Scandinavia and crime rates in the U.S.

[@susanyaggi6533]

Thx for covering Peter! We will see what is decided. I have the series on my watchlist.

[@wallyllama2926]

He’s tired of his office getting inundated with calls.

[@nmturk]

When children are this severely abused and attacked their abuser, not sure prison is the only answer.

[@sngray11]

Replay crew! 💞 That you Peter for updating us on this case. I think that while what these brothers did was hellacious, the ab*se that they endured growing up also needs to be taken into consideration, along with how they have continued to help others behind bars… imho, I think that they should be released from prison with time served. They deserve a chance to live their lives.

[@rebeccaswift7588]

They served enough time. They lost their youth to prison. They've been punished. It's time to let them out..❤

[@shelleymariejohnson503]

Praying for them to be free.

[@nickdepanfilis7895]

Thanks Peter. Great job as always. I think the DA is going the right route.

[@gailcullinan]

Peter, thank you for the great video amd explanations. It is much appreciated.

[@SLT148]

i lived through this trial. Time served Literally ❤

[@nellym.6555]

The abuse never happened, it was just a strategy of the lawyers.

[@dawnvarty657]

I believed them at the first trial. I believed them at the second trial. I believe them now. Most who have misbehaved deny their fault. These men deserve a second chance and have for a long time. I wish them well. We understand Gypsy Rose; can't we accept that these two have taken the worst and turned it around?

[@EffSharp]

A defender in LA and I know this court well. If you ever want to discuss this I’m happy to tell you about the process of resentencing in CA and specifically in that courtroom.

[@Hoodie_Queen55]

I would love to hear that!

[@chelseacd]

Email him to see if you can link up!

[@EffSharp]

@@chelseacd I work exclusively on post-conviction cases so I’m absolutely willing to talk about it with him. I don’t know his email.

[@kriswilder4186]

So are we going to re-sentence all murders, or murders by adults abused as children, or only cases with public attention? Or is it the beginning of releasing murderers that might have been over-sentenced?

[@candiceparr4174]

Thank you! I'm wondering how many convicts actually were abused?

[@YIKESMF]

Why not? I think it's a just thing to do. There are so many innocents in prison and many who are like Lyle and Erik who's trials were mishandled.

[@candiceparr4174]

@@YIKESMF So you think all murders should be released, That is your answer. These men murder*d tgeur parents for money. They were given a life no parole sentence. They did it. Spent $800,000 they kill*d for

[@sidewayssitter]

I mean the “over-sentenced” in your post is a clue. If a society decides a sentence is too much, then yes.

[@aprilkepler1702]

Thank you, Peter! 👍🏾

[@mhunter2019]

When we put people in prison we should be seeking rehabilitation.

[@neworleanslady1972]

Thank you for explaining

[@Cosmickitten2012]

Listen, Gypsy Rose

[@supergirl2204]

They were adults. They layed in wait. Reloaded to shoot their mother more. Lied to the cops. And went on huge spending spree. THEN suddenly it is all because of sa... 🤔

[@sonniesherry1606]

Happy Friday!!!

[@debradannenfelser6155]

It's about time for some sort of Justice? for the boys. Or should I say leniency. I cried all throughout the original court hearings back in the day.

[@inezcardenas7601]

Prayers for the brothers 🙏🙏 Let them free please!

[@janetjaymes5792]

I was living in LA at the time. Ok. Resentence - Murder 50 to life with parole, parole at 50. Also, I think it is a slippery slope for reversal or resentence based on viewers of a documentary.

[@mininjas]

I think they've done their time. The abuse they suffered for years at a young age is not easily forgotten

[@wallyllama2926]

Their sentencing was political, so their resentencing being political is poetic.

[@Igotnothin_]

Political? My god. The murders were brutal, even considering their very real and warranted reason. Imagine back then they received a lesser sentence? It was a different time and this type of abuse was largely ignored. I’m thankful so many survivors have spoken up helping to bring this type of abuse to the forefront and tbf, thankful cases can be reevaluated

[@wallyllama2926]

@@Igotnothin_ I agree, however I don’t doubt that Gascón is exploiting this particular case for his own political advantage. It happened to be great timing for him. Regardless of why, I hope they are released.

[@Dr_KAP]

I’ve also read in a few books that their sentence was political. The Rodney King and OJ Simpson outcomes put such huge pressure on Orange County law enforcement and their judicial system and they had to do something to save their reputation and jobs. The Menendez sentence was their opportunity to do this.

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

@@Igotnothin_ 53 witnesses testified to the abuse, medical records, photos. Erik & Lyles testimonies, experts who assessed them including Dr Ann Burgess so it was corroborated. That’s why Trial 1 was hung. Trial 2 the jury did not hear most of this this evidence of abuse & the Judge took the imperfect self defense off the table leaving the jury with murder or nothing, and of course no jury member would have agreed to let them walk free. Judge was embarrassed by his own court in the Rodney King case and wanted to make an example out of the brothers after OJ walked free. It was a blatant miscarriage of justice in my opinion.

[@judycr49]

Stupid comment it wasn't political geez no sense

[@LorettaHauser]

This case is very complicated. I believe the jury got it right! Guilty, life in prison for life, no possibility of parole. They had many other options other than murdering their parents.

[@candiceparr4174]

Letting them oit makes a mockery of the juries decision

[@YIKESMF]

​@candiceparr4174😂😂😂😂

[@DorothyV24]

Agree.

[@sdavis295]

Rewatch crew here.

[@hopemontgomery-l2b]

Hi from Georgia!

[@jpljthestelladoro]

Can you imagine what the first jury must be thinking right now? All of that work for nothing basically

[@brendacurrie358]

I love the way you break down and explain the legal system Peter 🙏💪♥️

[@nanettesilverwolf]

I agree with the prosecutor, they committed 1st degree murder but it's time for resentensing. Their abuse was not really believed back then and should be taken into consideration now. This is an example of the power of people coming together for a cause!

[@JudithBarletta]

Well said ! Free the brothers 🙏

[@sooz5703]

Their abuse was basically not allowed in the trial that convicted them of murder. The 50/50 hung jury was from the first trial where testimony of abuse was allowed. I think the media piled on with the 'rich boys murder parents in cold blood' story too whereas today, we can look up the case ourselves and form an opinion.

[@RescuePitties46]

It was believed by half the jurors in their 1st trials. It was not allowed in their 2nd trial because the judge essentially forced the m*rder conviction upon them by not allowing their allegations and the so called "ab*se excuse" in court for their combined 2nd trial. The judge did not allow them to defend themselves and gave them NO chance at a fair trial. Such a shame. Such a miscarriage of justice.

[@dhudson9423]

@@sooz5703 Exactly! They had no defense in the second trial. I agree also about the media. Back then no one was speaking out about pedophilia or child sex abuse committed against boys. The first movie that came out about the case depicted them as selfish boys who just wanted their inheritance. SHAMEFUL. They should have gotten a new trial on appeal once the letters were produced.

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

Friendly reminder that if you have not watched the court videos and have not considered the evidence and testimonies presented by the 50+ witnesses, you cannot have a fair opinion about this matter. May you be treated with the same amount of fairness, empathy and consideration as you are showing others.

[@benildaroque730]

Freedom for Menendez Brothers🙏❤️

[@mimielliott8052]

Resentencing does not mean they’re innocent. Everyone now serves 85% of their sentences.. they deserve to be free now.. I’m glad they are doing this.. now it’s time for the justice system to form a committee to reevaluate all other life sentences

[@KDSima]

I hope they are released. I know the murders were horrific, but the abuse was horrific too. This type of prosecutor is an example of the type of prosecutor we need. The prosecutor from their first trial was brutal.

[@RescuePitties46]

I believe the abuse was far worse than the murders to be honest. Their parents made a choice for years and years and years to inflict torture upon their very own children. That to me far outweighs the "wrong" of what the brothers did.

[@briannacc3983]

Holding your kids accountable is abuse nowadays?

[@mindyrolston3915]

Proof of the abuse

[@RescuePitties46]

@@briannacc3983 No, r*ping your kids is, physically beating them is, mentally and emotionally abusing them is, neglecting your children and their needs such as refusing the let your child get educational help for his learning disabilities is. So no, holding your children accountable is NOT, but everything Kitty and Jose did to their sons WAS and IS.

[@briannacc3983]

@@RescuePitties46 @RescuePitties46 these boys didn't want to work for their living. They reached adulthood and were desperate to maintain that lifestyle. Hence their lavish spending after the shooting down their parents.

[@phylbiggs123]

Begining tomorrow I'll expect that every Life Without Parole conviction will now be reassessed, and a new threshold and tier will be applied. The day after ee will begin reevaluating all 2nd degree convictions. The following day all involuntary manslaughter convictions will be reduced to Assault andent of malice and the defendants will immediately be released. **Surely this will consume far less resources than what had concerned the DA. regarding all the calls re: Menendez**

[@tinabeagle]

Replay crew. I love this channel.❤

[@terripetre8159]

Cheering on for the release of Lyle and Eric!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@nadineF]

I appreciate that commercials are importante to make videos viable but this video had way too many interruptions for commercials

[@wallyllama2926]

Move it up so that they’ll be home with their families for the holidays, hopefully.

[@terrim5442]

Planned, executed and horrible, they were at the ages to separate from their parents, they didn’t want to walk away without money.

[@BookishDark]

To spend basically their entire lives in prison, thinking they’d never breathe free air again, and CHOOSE to help other inmates speaks VOLUMES about their characters. If they were just cold-hearted murderers, they wouldn’t bother. I wasn’t even ten when this happened but I remember the narrative I heard and it was entirely disparaging of them. Hearing their stories now, I realize how wrong public consensus was. I hope they’re freed.

[@little_ashlyn2688]

LYK 100% agree

[@porakanasa2006]

Late but catching up:) GTSY all

[@maytheforcebewithyou4313]

I have always thought they were any of us at the moment we considered doing the unthinkable. I want this moment for them. Its not ok to keep them in Prison when they've served more time than original trial would have given them. They have set programs on motion that show they paid a debt for their actions when they had been so conflicted by abuse.

[@andie-rl6id]

thank you for highlighting this case. i am rarely supportive of live without parole, this case certainly should be eligible. they are not a danger to anyone but their abusers, and people change a lot in 35 years.❤

[@BlueTexel]

This has even been mentioned on UK news.

[@cryschapman]

As someone who grew up in an abusive house I can understand being terrified to trust that law enforcement or leaving will be the best option because there will always be the what ifs. I feel they have paid their debt, and went above and beyond in prison to be better and help others. These boys deserve to have some sort of normalcy for the rest of their lives period. I'm 100% team set them free

[@lindagarey9709]

There are too many court decisions happening right now for me to keep up.

[@caroleugis5155]

My problem is that even if they were abused they were 21 and 18. Old enough to leave home.

[@korie4198]

Abuse doesn't always end when leaving home. My mother harassed me until the day she died and very few people took it seriously because she was my mother. She had multiple conviction and was neglectful and abusive to me as a child to the point where I've been diagnosed with Complex PTSD. Abusive people DO NOT respect boundaries period. They may have been afraid that leaving would make things worse and that they were never going to be free. I know I never felt completely free until the day my mother died.

[@caroleugis5155]

@@korie4198 did you murderer her though and your father as well? I bet not.

[@YIKESMF]

My 78 year old dad tried to beat the shit out of me (49) and my daughter (22). It doesnt ever stop.

[@RunninQHsRock]

People have lived their entire lives in cults. The oldest Turpin kid was 30.

[@caroleugis5155]

@@RunninQHsRock They didn’t kill anyone did they?

[@66debcar]

I fully agree that they should be released!!!

[@SassyBear_]

Wow all good news that's what I like. Have a great day . Love ❤️ and hugs 🫂

[@annasworld1]

Thank you for bringing this subject to light. This case has been so interesting and educational. What’s so intriguing to me is I’m 59 years old. I remember the murders when they happened, however, I decided to follow the O.J. Trial. So my grandson that’s almost 15 is the one that brought this case to my attention. Therefore, I’m very vested in this case now because he made me see it from todays young eyes. My children and I were in a terrible domestic abusive situation with my ex husband. And I’m seeing the other side of this case through my young grandsons innocent eyes and mind. And that’s why I love young people. I pray for the Menendez brothers and their fate and families. Thank you again for this great video!!! ❤

[@annasworld1]

And I also agree the crime was heinous. And feel they have served their time…

[@candiockeetay]

It's basically a hearing to calm the public and help regain faith in the judicial system ...now let's try many many other wrongful or excessive sentencing cases that may not have the worlds attention

[@stellabythesea1492]

Thank the Lord!! Mark Garagose spoke on national news. It is going to be resentenced and a judge has been appointed. MG it leaves the boys will be home by Thanksgiving!

[@loudMouse11]

It is factual that its harder for male victims to come forward & believed even now but in the 80's it was even harder.

[@kimberlyconk3318]

This case is Crazy

[@andie-rl6id]

12:34 that sets a very poor president of justice. each case should be considered in its own merits not public opinion that can be sexist, racist, and flawed.

[@candiceparr4174]

I have never seen as bad a case of victim shamimg as perpetrated on Jose and Kitty Menedez. There has never been a shred of proof of sa. Not until after they died did these guys maje accusation. Its shameful

[@Lizbeth7799]

I like to listen to your opinions!…

[@kathrynluddeke9021]

Please do an update on ysl

[@marieb6447]

Is this going to set a precedent?

[@lightbreeze7958]

Happy for them happy for the evolution of justice and recognizing that the abuse happened and that they work hard on rehabilitation 😊

[@Coldtomyfire11]

Thank you for breaking it all down. I hope the brothers get released.

[@corbie-lynnworth2035]

I think they served an adequate amount of time for the crime commited considering the circumstances! I think originally the DA went hard for them to make an example of them, and facts were ommited originally.

[@PupsMom]

They were methodically working toward getting out in this manner.

[@donnachampion3169]

Free the Menendez Brothers ‼️

[@inezcardenas7601]

🙏🙏

[@Carlene126]

Which I’ve just discovered 30 years only needs to be served 85% and he served a full year prior to the trial. I’m still trying to figure out how the appeal happened and the family was not notified.