How Will The Bederow Letters And Turtleboy Affect Karen Read's Second Trial?

[@PamelaH_HappyVibes]

Let me get this straight, the police will investigate plastic ducks but, not the inside of a home where a police officer is found dead in the lawn. 🤦🏼‍♀️ Make this make sense!

[@Ieezeca]

I can't even see a lawyer doing it. Especially since they just let a town council member off with a SORRY for threatening people with his unregistered guns.

[@Miss_Jax]

So well said.

[@w.brettcarothers4235]

Easy. Blue Line Mafia.

[@mitch6969123]

Nope, I cannot make it make sense, I don’t think anyone can

[@VivaciousOM]

Exactly, Pamela.

[@theRealSara]

I could listen to this duo for 4 hours! We need more!

[@kathywright7395]

Same

[@ChevyTraversetyOFjustice]

Me too! I was hanging on every word and was bummed when it was over!

[@jtjones4081]

“How will the MiniMark letters affect the KR case?” U u u I got this one, they won’t. MiniMark is an attention ore. Aiden didn’t “get documents,” KR fed them to him to get her narrative out to the public while the CW’s hands were tied by ethics to not refute the narrative.

[@christinem3904]

Oh for sure!!

[@SPirofknAgnew]

​@jtjones4081 ya ok McAlbert mouth piece cant wait for all you friends to be in orange jumpsuits.

[@BL4CK_ICE]

Mark Bederow is one of the most articulate people I have ever heard

[@bonniejohn517]

THE Law DADDY

[@gypsygirl4022]

Both he and Peter are my favorite. Authentic, articulate and professional!

[@Starboard1]

@@bonniejohn517 more respect would be nice, call that TB clown “daddy” MB deserves the respect…..creepy af calling professionals “ daddy” just weird….

[@bonniejohn517]

@ you’re weird for caring and commenting in my comment!! Carry on

[@technigeneric]

​@@Starboard1The law daddy reference is an extension of the women in chat during trial that started calling the attractive ARCA expert crash daddy.

[@likicanoe3305]

"No one wants the innocent to go to jail". Just going to TRIAL can almost ruin an innocent persons life!

[@Ieezeca]

Pretty sure it has ruined Karen's and taken a decade off her life. People get nasty about her smiling or having a laugh, I doubt there is any other way to survive in her position.

[@calliew311]

In this case it did ruin Karen's life. She doesn't have her job at the university anymore, and is paying millions for legal assistance. Just because the first trial was a mistrial, doesn't mean that they do the next trial for free. They have bills too and AJ is literally as far across the country as possible from his own firm and family for the entire time he's working for Karen.

[@stacyjane8014]

@@ThoughtfulRebelsThat is incredibly sad. Geeez.. I can’t imagine

[@kayty6673]

Just think how bad things will get after Trump gives all cops total immunity .

[@Freeze_Frame_Pan_Out]

@@IeezecaYup! I agree!

[@jillruben8924]

All he’s saying about the corruption is worse than we imagined. Brederow is fascinating to hear explaining ❤

[@taraellis4345]

This podcast is one of your best decisions as a content creator Peter. We always want you to interview people on your channel and this fits better than when you’re reviewing cases live. Bederow has quickly become YT’s darling and gives such calm and clear insight and common sense to all of it. This was my favorite episode thus far.

[@BlackStump172]

He is a nice and good man .

[@MomsForTheTruth]

Yesss 100% my fav episode

[@OldLadyBakes]

I feel like Peter’s most passionate when he’s interacting with lawyers.

[@acousticprojekt]

What but I love the live coverage too

[@Ieezeca]

​@@BlackStump172 He is so unbelievably articulate.

[@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016]

I love watching Mark no matter who’s channel he is speaking on. The Bedderow Letters are amazing

[@ChevyTraversetyOFjustice]

And I love that he does all of this for the sole purpose of educating the public of all the shenanigans in Norfolk County!

[@brendavasquez1720]

@@ChevyTraversetyOFjusticeexactly! He doesn’t have his own channel where he is profiting from talking about this

[@Ieezeca]

​@@ChevyTraversetyOFjusticeI'm learning a whole lot about our 1A protection.

[@Kiki-G]

Same here.

[@JenLester]

I'm still not sure what the Bederow Letters are?! Did I miss that in their discussion?

[@JenManning371]

That was amazing!! I am from Canton, MA. I care about this case so much and then I went to school with Sandra Birchmore in Stoughton! I hate the corruption and Karen Read is a hero for exposing all of this!!

[@timbell6870]

you must know all the players. Stay safe JenManning!

[@Ieezeca]

I wish I would have had half the empathy and understanding for my peers while in school as I do now ❤

[@daleperrin284]

Yes indeed, @JenManning371 Stay safe!!

[@JenManning371]

@@timbell6870 yup! My mother went to school with Brian Albert and she has endless stories

[@AmyB369]

I feel so bad about what is going on in your community. Scary that there are murderers running around free there. Sandra’s case breaks my heart and I can’t believe the other officers that groomed her have not even been arrested for SA of a minor. So disturbing on so many levels

[@cindydewey9514]

So glad to see Mark Bederow on your show! No chain of custody on the evidence would be a not guilty every time for me. Period. Add in wrong dates, addresses, misspelled names, solo cups, leaf blower, crime scene unprotected, inverted video, changed testimony… are you frickin kidding me? Love your show! Thanks!

[@notnow7973]

Good points

[@lynndalton733]

Dead on!

[@islanderbyrd1881]

Exactly & the investigator who "borrowed" the snowplow from the police station. Drunken Cops, & a Corrupt Judge favoring the Prosecution!

[@caroline-brisbane8577]

Looking forward to the replay. Attorney Bederow is the calm voice who delivers logic and the law.

[@abi_n]

I've had the pleasure of watching Mark Bederow on multiple YT channels, and let me tell you... This was by far my favorite interview of him. Peter, you were great at giving him space to share and inform and your back and forth with one another was a great balance. I look forward to the next Tragos-Bederow interview. It is great to see two attorneys with ethics and heart around the law. Thank you both for what you do.

[@cs-yq5ed]

I am enjoying this intelligent and articulate analysis. A display of critical thinking. Thank you both!

[@OpinionbyPaula]

Two brilliant attorneys with the ability to explain and discuss the law without the appearance of taking sides. Just the facts!

[@rubychase22]

Fantastic conversation. Mark knows Karen and Aidan’s cases so well and is able to explain things so clearly for those of us without any legal experience. Looking forward to another collaboration between the two of you!

[@shelbyvpool]

Makes it worse is they can investigate duckies but not a cop murder

[@dantheman4791]

💯 💯

[@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016]

@@shelbyvpool just more incompetence and points to the fact that they maybe tried to do a sham of a coverup

[@ChrisinChicago]

There is a lot that is "wrong" with this whole case but that right there just may be on top of the list. That right there is the most worrisome.

[@mitch6969123]

They did way more of an investigation on the ducks then they did a murdered police officer. Total dishonor to Officer O’Keefe, his family, Karen Read, and her family and every taxpayer in Massachusetts

[@Catmomto3]

They didn’t have to investigate. They know who did it, so they had to come up with a plan to frame Karen.

[@rhondacline7863]

Thank you Peter for having Mark Bederow on. I think you both are two excellent attonery's and this is going to be a awesome show! 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

[@jamieheyer56]

I love the way Mark thinks. He's so down to earth. This was a fascinating discussion!

[@Amber-li6xq]

Thank you for bringing Mark on! So well spoken, witty, and genuine. Love the Bederow Letters

[@Jaboomalaba]

I can’t get enough of Mr. Bederow. This was a great discussion about two polarizing cases.

[@mininjas]

Love listening to two intelligent people have a high level conversation. The cherry on top is the topic- the most ridiculous prosecution I've ever heard of.

[@MikaHasFaith]

OH YEAH.....I'm TOTALLY WAITING FOR THIS!!!! BEDEROW IS A BEAST!!!!!

[@SkiersDaughter]

LOVE that you have Mark on. You two are hands down my favorite lawyers on KZbin.

[@littlebirdie0809]

💯 %

[@CynthiaSaletnik]

same

[@adriannabcustomfurniture]

I've been following you since you were a small channel and I've been following Bederow since his first appearance on KZbin! This is one of my favorite collabs ever! Please have him on your channel more often. Love you both!

[@lulubells930]

Loved this, Mark is becoming an American hero! He was not hit by a car!!!!!!!!

[@Ji5-24]

Are you for real. ARCCA was just an opinion, it doesn’t make it definitive. If it was it would be exculpatory evidence. Further, they didn’t review the tech stream data (black box as it were). That’s like saying no one should bother reviewing a black box from an airplane crash. The black box is relied upon the most via accident investigations. Furthermore, the opinion contradicts the tech stream data. Moreover, not all accidents can be explained scientifically that’s a fact. The opinion is open to reasonable doubt on the above basis alone. You speak as if it’s definitive it isn’t.

[@Lulu-947]

Also an attorney and watched the trial cold as if a juror…it took about 2 weeks to convince me of far more than reasonable doubt and by the end I became fully convinced of Karen Reads innocence.

[@user-nd1mb5wr4g]

"They" all know that KR is innocent, and know that it's the "McALBERTS" as I've seen them called, who are responsible for the death of Officer O'Keefe. They have NO intention of bringing a cop and his son to trial and having them rightfully convicted of murder, so they've set up Ms. Read to take the fall. TB has been warned about the deal with the cops in place now. He just refuses to pay heed to it.

[@CameronL-l5k]

I agree with you. I watched it "cold" as you say, I wasnt primed with any of the pretrial (Im also not an American or Free KR person). I was on the fence until a few weeks into the trial, but yeah having watched the whole thing I really dont believe that she did it and I was surprised at the hung jury result.

[@user-nd1mb5wr4g]

@@CameronL-l5k The first jury should have acquitted on all charges, but there are too many people behind the scenes on social media potentially tainting the pool of prospective jurors. The creators who can do something about them don't seem to be doing much, and that may not bode well at the second trial.

[@funsize5]

Still watching this but dang, its SOOOOOO good! You two compliment one another nicely! Two amazing lawyers who are very intelligent and make things simple for us who aren't lawyers understand in lamen terms. Appreciate this and both Lawyer You Know and Mark Bederow more after this then before and I didn't think that was even possible. ❤️🙌

[@BlessedMomfmTexas]

Hey love ❤️. Absolutely. Mark bedarow is just amazing. And he tells the facts. Same with Peter.

[@CynthiaSaletnik]

i agreee . they speak the same language

[@You.Tube.Sucks.]

They also complement each other well :)

[@Susie-C-J]

Attorney Bederow is on another level! He is talented and beloved and a great package! 🙂

[@rickyfissel9970]

Mark Bederow is such an intelligent guy. Both these guys are awesome humans

[@Enginette37]

Might be my favorite professional guest ever. Awesome getting another point of view that doesn’t take the same path Peter takes, but ultimately gets back to where we have been heading. Blown away!

[@ScoobysMom1]

Atty. Mark Bederow is so articulate, professional and SMART! We are so lucky he has been in "our" world for so long offering such great input (that you can TRUST)!

[@littlebirdie0809]

I love that they didn’t agree on every single point but you could see that they totally respect each other as great lawyers!

[@patriciaknowlton2635]

Great podcast - And they don't interrupt each other - true gentleman

[@VictoriouschildenofGod]

This is how real Laywer’s get down

[@Catedancej]

I love that you had Mark Bederow on. He is so articulate and savvy imo.

[@cs-yq5ed]

The ARCCA findings should have locked in a not guilty. I was shocked to hear that the jury discounted their testimony because they thought the "outside agency" was an insurance company, rather than realizing the "agency" was the FBI.

[@sashabella73]

The jurors took it upon themselves to create their own narrative with a lot of info...its infuriating, that's not their job 🙄

[@michele0317]

IMO there needs better voir dire of potential jurors for 2nd trial. No LE or former LE should be on jury either. IMO. Thank you for this greatly anticipated stream. ✌️⚖️

[@JimLambier]

I found those two witnesses incredibly intelligent and articulate. In contrast, Trooper Paul kept stumbling over his words and obviously had no grasp of basic physics. I just don't get how the jurors could have accepted his opinion.

[@NerdyDogMom1]

I feel like it does matter that they thought it was an insurance company because maybe they thought an insurance company would be biased and not wanting to pay.

[@sashabella73]

@NerdyDogMom1 absolutely. Just another piece of very important info Judge Bev denied...

[@kellegaus6457]

Mark Bederow is such a distinguished and articulate attorney, when he speaks… people listen. He is amazing and doing exactly what he should be doing, he loves what he does and he cares.

[@TracyJuliano-xt5je]

I can listen to him all day.

[@lynndalton733]

Thank you for this discussion with Mark. He is so common sense. This is a good match of smart, articulate attorneys 🎉

[@MaryC1014]

I could listen to you both all day every day!!!! FKR!

[@Iwantoutdoors]

Agree!

[@sandygrogg1203]

Peter, these conversations are fast becoming my favorite thing. I really look forward to them. They are always so interesting, and informative. Thanks so much for introducing this feature to your channel. I’m sure it’s very very popular. I especially enjoy the long form, because we can get more information and it is just enjoyable. I’m looking forward to this one quite a lot.❤

[@MakeMineInMini]

Finally!!! Mark Bederow is the best! Please dive into Aidan's case when you can. It's appalling, the breadth and scope of what the commonwealth has done to him and Karen Read. Thank you, Peter.

[@SalemSphynx]

Imagine Karens lawyers calling TB to testify? THAT would be fun to watch lol

[@BlackStump172]

At last he has fixed his twisted curtain .😊

[@Ieezeca]

​@@SalemSphynxHe would do fine. He's completely capable of speaking without foul language, and he has yet to be incorrect about anything.

[@Ieezeca]

​@@BlackStump172 lol❤

[@lisareiter3899]

​@@BlackStump172 😂😂 True Mark Bederow 'fans' will get this. When he said his mom even told him to fix it 😂

[@jmb8949]

Great episode!!!!! Thanks for bringing Mark on to give great explanation of the letters. LYK is the best.

[@beachgirl4truth672]

EXCELLENT discussion between my FAVORITE attorney (Peter/LYK, of course) and another attorney who believes that “ethics and integrity” must NEVER be compromised when it involves seeking true “justice!!”

[@kathiek4239]

Absolutely thrilled with this discussion and these lawyers. I know it’s preaching to the choir in this community, but I love the passion these guys bring passion to defending *our* Constitutional rights. Thank you for discussing how absurdly inept this “investigation” was. For me, it was REASONABLE DOUBT all day long based solely on the investigation.

[@pattivirostek1390]

I love and respect Mr Bederow.

[@FriendofDog]

Adore Mark! The most articulate attorney ever!

[@Karina-Ke]

I thoroughly enjoyed this one! Peter and Mark are truly remarkable individuals who embody integrity and distinction.

[@SamanthaLeigh7]

I absolutely love Mark! I've been saying for awhile now, he really needs his own channel, it's what the people want!

[@energeticsoulhealer888]

This. Was. Sooooo. GOOD. Thank you for this. Please have Mr. Bederow back again❤

[@chuckdouglas7068]

Pete and Mark B.. The Dream Team. Automatic You Tube Hall of Fame content nominee. Two intelligent, high integrity straight shooters who love what they do and are good at it. More of this whenever possible, please.

[@dianec2749]

We all love Mark Bederow!!! Law legend!

[@enigma_-_79]

That “we love Bederow” (or anyone else on YT) is such an immature fan-girling statement that I take great offence at you daring to include “all” of us. Some of us adults can respect the work he has put into his cases and his knowledge of the law, but that is very far from “love.” You sound like those middle-aged aggressive females yelling “we lurve you Karen,” to a woman who didn’t look twice at them. Leave me out.

[@bluschke52]

This is an amazing conversation. You are both respectable knowledgeable trustworthy lawyers.

[@Kp-qv9gx]

I feel like i could listen to these two talking to each other for hours. They need to do more episodes.

[@leannabedore]

I remember on a past video, Peter was like yeah, I dont know who this guy is or anything about him, a person commemted on in the que and Peter read aloud "I guess his name is TurtleBoy some are telling me" it gave me a good laugh! You've come so far Peter, having Turtle Boys attorney on! ❤😂

[@214blumen]

Such an interesting conversation! Ty so much for a stimulating, albeit appalling look behind the scenes in Canton, M A

[@thankgodformentalillness6221]

I love the criticism of the defense team. They were good but they weren't perfect (especially during jury deliberations). You guys nailed it.

[@celestinegoliath1694]

Bederow... My favorite person. Thx for having him on the show

[@jennt2882]

Love listening to this attorney. He is well spoken, interesting and easy to understand. He speaks so easily about this which for me means he is comfort with his knowledge. Appreciate this interview Peter. Two classy, smart lawyers. Love it.

[@kevinwynne8308]

This guy mark is incredibly interesting to listen to. You two have a really cool chemistry. Thanks for such an informative hour 🙏

[@Ieezeca]

Bederow has something special, I don't know what it is or if it's a secret combo, but he's amazing. So happy he is joining Aidan in fighting for our 1A rights.

[@dyanalynn6698]

If you’re interested in the letters they are referring to Attorney Melanie Little reads through them on her channel.

[@yrobinson3948]

Absolutely brilliant! I have watched every single Mark Bederow’s appearance on other channels! This was the best!!!!!! two of the best lawyers bouncing off each other….just WoW

[@notnow7973]

We need Mark to continue to practice law. He’s the ultimate ethical lawyer.

[@ChevyTraversetyOFjustice]

OMG! You are exactly right!! I am dying to say to him “please don’t start a KZbin channel!” The public needs you!!

[@notnow7973]

@ exactly.

[@Ieezeca]

​@@ChevyTraversetyOFjusticeHe's not. He has freed two other long-term prosecuted young people while working on TB's case alone. One free & one to mental facility to be treated properly.

[@Ieezeca]

Bederow joined this bc he is a strong advocate of the 1st Ammendment, and with independent reporters being born daily it's a very threatened source of truth.

[@kirks7143]

He does practice law ....he is currently defending Aiden ....the cops he was reporting on are the ones that charged him with witness intimidation!! The Bederow Letters are actually motions in Aidens case ....proving he was set up!!

[@Palo_Duro]

Even the barking dog in the background is fed up with this Read prosecution

[@shannonyoung1637]

Riddle me this: Mark's dog is lightly barking in the background, but the Albert's dog didn't didnt make a sound with ambulances and law enforcement officers right outside the window.

[@toonces1027]

@@shannonyoung1637 a German Shepherd too...no way would she not be going absolutely crazy, waking everyone up! And then Jen comes in through the unlocked door and into their bedroom!!? Chloe wasn't there, in my opinion.

[@Ieezeca]

​@@toonces1027They likely sent Chloe home with their daughter that night.

[@mandystrong8196]

I’m fed up with the whole thing. So much so I can’t even watch this stream.

[@GoodCitizenWeymouth]

@@mandystrong8196lmao😂 thanks for looking at the comments. 😂

[@jfairfamfallon]

Best conversation I’ve seen about all this corruption in MA. Thank you for the non-vitriolic and educational presentation.

[@Badwolf143]

I love the guests you are bringing on Peter - this is a great direction.

[@kevinbernard9791]

It doesn't matter what channel attorney bederow appears on you're GUARANTEED. a great show 👍 👌 👏 he's absolutely top shelf 👌 🙌🙌🙌

[@mariathompson4875]

It is seeing this kind of case that is local, up close, and personal where bad stuff happens that makes people skeptical of the judicial system and government. What does it take to force the police and prosecutors to stop doing sketchy and downright illegal stuff?

[@ajk2009]

Right?! The answer is- it takes eternal vigilance! Corruption is worldwide, fortunately, we are watching and connecting at the speed-of-light- supporting an investigative journalist like Aidan Kearney, who puts the crooks in the spotlight.

[@derekwalters4980]

Dang!! This guy is insightful. I do appreciate two attorneys chewing on the facts of KR's 1st trial.

[@debidriscoll8108]

I really enjoyed this. Thank you for such a great conversation.

[@Georgee1217]

Excellent. I loved every minute of this interview.

[@nickiking5766]

Thank you for diving into this. It seems like not many top-tier lawtubers want to touch this, but let's get real.... this is big. Absolutely respect and admire both of you for your knowledge and cander.

[@Ieezeca]

TB brings the facts, but also the cringe language. We all have to fight for his right to do it regardless.

[@enigma_-_79]

@@Ieezeca TB has made a pretty penny from the KR case. Even after he pays his fines, he is still laughing all the way to the bank. He certainly increased his sub count.

[@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016]

Thank you Peter and Mark. Great discussion.

[@sdavis295]

Loved this podcast Peter. Mark is so well spoken and informative. Thank you for having him on.

[@anitaholst7671]

I love this conversation between 2. attorneys from defense attorney pov. Thank you!

[@lisapoore7219]

You're "killing" it Peter! You're a natural! My daughter passed the NYS Bar a month ago! She's 23 and the only female in her Law firm!

[@kevinwynne8308]

That’s young! She wasn’t wasting any time. Good for her!

[@lisapoore7219]

@@kevinwynne8308 right! She did it in 5 years!!

[@VivaciousOM]

Congrats, proud momma Lisa! Outstanding!

[@perlauae]

Love love love you gentlemen! And even more so together! Hope you two do it again! Both great lawyers with incredible integrity! Much love to you and your families! Thank you for all you do!!!

[@pattymcdaniel5677]

Such amazing conversation between you two. Please bring Mark back again because the way you two share information off each other is just so interesting and educational. It’s it’s like it’s great. Please bring Mac back again and have more conversations.

[@kwakem1855]

Great episode! Love the conversation between you two!

[@NorthEnd_Andrea]

Oh my GOODNESS I am *PSYCHED* for this collab. Two of my absolute favorite KZbin lawyers. Bederow is such a gem.

[@unsolvedchristeries]

PLEASE do another episode with Bederow! You guys are great together!

[@Slothlife67]

Love all your content but this one was special, great to see two great lawyers having an insightful and fascinating discussion.

[@9Gin9]

I hope you do more interviews together. Very informative.

[@GenerationXChick]

Replay crew. Wow! What a treat! Mark Bederow is a true professional and I appreciate you having him on Peter.

[@infpmadness]

One of my FAVORITE episodes EVER!!! You two have such a natural rapport, great chemistry, it's like the law duo we didn't know we needed!!! Any case you two want to discuss, I am soooo there to listen! If I could give this episode 100 thumbs up I would! Thank you, Peter, for this collaboration! ♡♡♡

[@sallywhitney657]

This was so interesting to hear the objective view points combined with the legal expertise of both of you. Mark is really able to explain how Turtle boy and Karen's case are connected. He has successfully uncovered and explained this unjust ,corrupt, DA and his staff in massachusetts along with the state police. This was a great listen. Thank you!!

[@ajk2009]

@sallywhitney657 Well said !

[@steph_anieB]

Amazing!!!! Thank you Peter for having Mark- loved listening to your great legal minds. FTB

[@thebeccafly]

Incredible discussion! That was so enjoyable to watch I could’ve done another hour. One of the best streams I’ve watched in a while! Thank you!

[@Iwantoutdoors]

Agree!

[@ChiefsRoyals]

Love Mark Bederow!!!!! The best

[@denadimarzo4237]

Best video. Informative, respectful, common sense! Love this video!

[@janetannehorn]

Straight talking, satisfying and legally informative awesomeness. In these obfuscated times, an interview like this is like finding a fresh water spring in a polluted landscape. I so much appreciate the fact that you could both express your actual opinions on the case, while keeping it classy. Sincerity and integrity at its best.

[@Ieezeca]

That was artfully articulated!

[@HazeraJerin-r4p]

Best episode to date. Peter seems like a solid, wonderful person, but his neutrality on this case mind boggles me! Bederow is all about calling out the BS.

[@kitcatkit6240]

He was really good to listen to during the trial. Most law is black & white and he does a great job showing that. He doesn’t let emotions rule because emotions aren’t law. However after the ARCCA guys he said well she’s not guilty and it shocked me because he’s always so neutral.

[@ScratchedHalo]

2 of the best Lawyers around! Thank you!

[@pensive_peggy]

The media is a disgrace in this case! Absolutely agree

[@SalemSphynx]

Them + our "justice" system in MA = nightmare fuel🤦🏻‍♀️

[@claudiamontano519]

ABSOLUTELY....AND those who started this movement are,profitingmfrom it. SO SAD​@SalemSphynx

[@BlackStump172]

Why add , this case ? The media is a disgrace .

[@deserttoebeanchaos]

All media?

[@Ieezeca]

​@claudiamontano5 42:3919 We all profit from Justice and free speech. The town supporters are suffering greatly for their rights, financially and personally. I'm pretty sure the only one truly profiting off of this is TB. Since he has worked 24 hours a day for over a year, is actually harassed and threatened constantly (from someone killing a turtle on his lawn to publically saying horrible things about his dying/then dead mother), trying to frame him for SA, to 60 days in jail, to legal fees for false legal persecution...I"m thinking he earns every cent of it.

[@coleenphilipson2656]

This was everything I could have hoped for! What a team! I could watch you together forever!! Thanks, Peter, for having Mark on your podcast! You should set something up that has you with Mark regularly. You compliment each other perfectly!!♥️😁👏🏼

[@emmamadaras4610]

This was amazing!! I listen to you all the time and love your channel. However this knocked what you normally do out of the park. This was engaging. It was great to see the excitement and the passion you both have. Rather than talking to us and trying to read comments to reply or guess what we are thinking....this kept it moving, was easy to follow and any questions I had were answered. Also appreciated you experiences and anecdotes. Thanks so much for doing this!!!❤❤❤

[@brittiliciousxo852]

Thank you both. Really good to hear the legal case rather than the extra fodder around this case. I also came into this case blind having no background and the biology alone made me skeptical about guilt. There is no way someone gets hit at 24mph in reverse and obtained zero bruises below the neck and only scratch marks on the arms. So sad for the people of Massachusetts having to pay for this trial AGAIN.

[@fr11288]

the DA’s office with its troopers and DA’s is almost like shaking down innocent people almost like a criminal gang

[@karmennash7479]

Not almost…

[@brianwebber6996_ROADHUNTER]

They're not known as the 'thin' Blue Line Gang for nothing!! It's REAL and they've done more damage across the country than all other gangs combined!!

[@daleperrin284]

Not almost, it is!!

[@2Truth4Liberty]

Mafioso - departments are either clean because of their leadership or they are completely corrupt because of their leadership Gang is a given - question is Good gang, or Bad gang.

[@AmyB369]

Not almost like they literally are a gang of criminals. Covering up a murder and obstruction of justice, tampering with evidence

[@cathbooth1980]

In this case, many of the jurors got it twisted. They wrongly believed they had to solve the mystery of what happened to Officer O’Keefe. Mark said it from day one…the summation ought to focus on every single discrepancy & oddity and turn them into reasonable doubt. Jackson needed at least a 2 hour closing argument. Absolutely awesome show Peter…my favourite to date!

[@izmac9146]

I agree Bev did everything she could legally to restrict the defense imo.

[@estrella5935]

It’s not the jury, it’s society as a whole, and they make up a jury. Just look what the did to Richard Allen. Horrifying.

[@lindseystein9676]

Yeah too many jurors ignored juror instructions. They’re supposed to use info presented from the case and determine if the prosecution proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt. Based on juror interviews, a few of them made up their own theories to fit certain charges and then tried convincing others of their theories.

[@karenbourque3492]

Yes, thank you for getting Mark Bederow 🤣 I'm drinking my ☕ love your channel it's the best 💗. Now here we go.. Free Karen Reed. 💞

[@Ji5-24]

Don’t hold your breath: ⁠1. The FBI investigated KR’s allegations and no indictments/charges have been issued/laid against any person/s, and no government official has announced any corruption of any LE Officer/s, as to the KR case. Charges still solely against KR for almost three years now (since JO passed). 2. As per the trial: (a). The ME gave evidence as to the autopsy findings detailing JO’s head injury, indicating a type of whiplash typically from a car accident (detailed thoroughly via the M. William Phelps podcast (34 Fairview Road - episode 5)). (b). No canine DNA was found. 3. Therefore, indicating JO was not beaten, nor was he also bitten and scratched by a dog. 4. Which says it all, in and of itself, to any reasonable minded person that is.

[@melissasilva6021]

So great to hear 2 great lawyers talking shop!

[@cstrueb1]

Thank you!! Love listening to Mark Bederow!! You do a great job, Peter. Truly love the content!!

[@YolyW66]

Great collab. Thanks, Peter! Love Mark Bederow!

[@aprilboulis6433]

Great interview. Thanks for covering this.

[@danib4798]

Really really enjoyed this conversation. Gave me a sense of the way the both of you approach a case, the kind of thing's you're taking into consideration, and much more. It was very interesting. It was like watching my 2 favorite baseball players talk shop. Really hope there is a second conversation in the future!!

[@scrapbookpassion]

Loved this podcast. 2 amazing humans talking sense. Thank you Peter and Mark.