Real ORIGINS Of The GOLDEN THRONE And All Its FUNCTIONS | Warhammer 40K Lore

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Full Stellaris playthrough

[@James-bs8bd]

Love your videos! What was that outro music btw?

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Oh wow. Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy my content, I really do. Name of the sing is : dan henig - danger snow

[@Chris_Lohmann]

It seems to me that, in order to figure out the origin of the Golden Throne, you have to ask the following question: How old are the Himalayas? We know that what are now the Himalayas were once part of the ocean floor since fossilized sea creatures have been found at the top of Mt Everest. And we know that the creation of the Himalayan range began when the indian tectonic plate collided with the eurasian plate some 50 million to 65 million years ago. Now we must ask, “when was the War In Heaven?” Roughly 60 million years ago, right? Hmmm. I suppose it’s plausible that construction of the Golden Throne could’ve been begun during the time period of the War In Heaven (or immediately after) by the Aeldari and/or Necron. Since it’s believed that the two had an uneasy truce/alliance in order to defeat the C’Tan and there just happens to be a shard of a C’Tan (the void dragon) imprisoned on Mars, it would seem that the Sol system was the site of an ancient battle during the War In Heaven. Who knows, maybe that’s what wiped out the dinosaurs? We’re told it was an asteroid but, nope, it was actually the War In Heaven. 😆 Anyway, great video! I’d love to listen to you recount the daemonic incursion into Commorragh. Cheers! 🍻

[@dreadnoughtgamingd.n.g3123]

@@Chris_Lohmann the dinosaurs are the old ones 🤔

[@Chris_Lohmann]

@dreadnoughtgamingd.n.g3123 Interesting theory. The Old Ones are believed to have been amphibians whereas the dinosaurs were reptiles, but I suppose there could have been a connection.

[@dreadnoughtgamingd.n.g3123]

@Chris_Lohmann well it would be interesting the necrons don't remember their homeworld or where it is so ive always thought earth could have been their home world or maybe it was the seat of power for the old ones but just speculation I do feel gw should expand on the lore for the war in heaven especially with it being so important to cawls story right now

[@Chris_Lohmann]

@@dreadnoughtgamingd.n.g3123 It’s plausible that Earth could have been a seat of power/base of operations for the Old Ones during the War In Heaven. They almost certainty seeded life on Earth and probably manipulated its evolution. However, I don’t think it’s possible that Earth could be the homeworld of the Necrontyr. We know that the star around which the Necrontyr homeworld orbited was in the process of being devoured by a C’Tan which caused the star to give off a deadly radiation. This radiation was the source of the Necrontyr’s suffering. Their shortened lifespans, genetic mutations, cancer and constant pain is largely responsible for them becoming so bitter and angry and easily seduced by the prospect of immortality via biotransference. Our sun, on the other hand, is still burning bright in M41. The lore surrounding the War(s) In Heaven is one of my favorite subjects in the Warhammer universe and I too wish that Games Workshop would publish more of it.

[@Chris_Lohmann]

@@dreadnoughtgamingd.n.g3123 It’s plausible that Earth could have been a seat of power/base of operations for the Old Ones during the War In Heaven. They almost certainty seeded life on Earth and probably manipulated its evolution. However, I don’t think it’s possible that Earth could be the homeworld of the Necrontyr. We know that the star around which the Necrontyr homeworld orbited was in the process of being devoured by a C’Tan which caused the star to give off a deadly radiation. This radiation was the source of the Necrontyr’s suffering. Their shortened lifespans, genetic mutations, cancer and constant pain is largely responsible for them becoming so bitter and angry and easily seduced by the prospect of immortality via biotransference. Our sun, on the other hand, is still burning bright in M41. The lore surrounding the War(s) In Heaven is one of my favorite subjects in the Warhammer universe and I too wish that Games Workshop would publish more of it.

[@reverenddmo8944]

How about this - what if the "Throne" (the core aspect of it at least) was always there beneath the ground waiting for the right people to find it? We know the Old Ones used spacial engineering on multidimensional levels, crafting the Webway with it and possibly using that power to demolish or reform material space as a weapon during the War in Heaven. We also know that with a suitably powerful psychic entity installed in it it can further amplify their power in various ways. So... what if these Throne-devices are remnants of the science of the Old Ones, places where they sat and controlled the galaxy, willed their constructions into being and manipulated life into new forms. Literal seats of power for the self-made gods of the time? And after their fall, the beings they seeded in their wake found them, tinkered with them, adapted them to their own needs (albeit with the finesse of replacing a fan belt with a stocking). The Thrones are the legacy of the Old Ones, promising godlike powers in time to their offspring in the future. And... if you're suspicious like me, add a little extra to this. We know the Old Ones could see the future and used this prescience to outsmart their enemies. So what if they saw their battles with the Necron and C'tan were going to need more time than they had? They put some of their Thrones in places where their children would eventually find them and use them to elevate themselves to a level where when their enemies returned the war could be won once and for all. So what if the Emperor is another creation of theirs, millions of years in development, only to eventually arrive with an inbuilt psychic impression of "elders" sacrificing themselves to create his powers to defend the galaxy from the foes of order? There's some elements of his own personality in there, but the key visions that guided him are implanted there to make him a good little playing piece in the Old Ones chess game, destined to find the Throne, destined to sit on it, destined to raise another army to take place in the game they've been playing for eons... we know the Orks have knowledge from the War coded into them still, as do the Aeldari, what if life on Earth was set up the same way? Welcome to existence as pawns in a long game being played across time itself, by players to whom death and extinction are minor inconveniences, and may yet still be there, waiting to make their next move? Kind of puts the God-Emperor into perspective, doesn't it?

[@TheLostPrimarch]

It would go really well together if the case in point is that the Old ones set everything up in a way so that the Emperor would be created and he would find the device that would become the Golden Throne

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Maybe the Emperor's body is truly dead but his consciousness continue to exist as an upload inside the throne. But that would require some way to use psychic powers using technology but that could also be part of the throne.

[@reverenddmo8944]

@@michaelpettersson4919 Maybe not a literal upload of a soul, how about it just acts as an anchor, holding him in place. I know it's a tenuous link, but we know that 40k as a universe is a sci-fi mirror of Warhammer Fantasy, and we know that the Old Ones are an iteration of the Slann... now when they actually made models of the Slann that weren't just a handful of early frog-men with blowpipes and spears, they were always seated in Thrones carried to the field of battle. Hell, one of them was technically dead too - a mummy carried to battle but still able to wield magic and guide forces... maybe this is a more grandiose sci-fi version of the same thing. Plus if death isn't a barrier to existence, maybe the Old Ones are still around somewhere, somehow, biding their time. It's pretty Lovecraftian. And he did create the literary Old Ones in his own, much borrowed-from mythos.

[@BrendanSchmelter]

The Throne could have had powers similar to the Great Machine in the 1956 movie Forbidden Planet... The ability to make thoughts Reality.

[@reverenddmo8944]

@@BrendanSchmelter The Old Ones do have parallels to the Krell (and a few other sci-fi races to be fair). I like that idea, that it amplifies will to an extent... shades of 'ow red wuns go fasta 😉

[@Kingdomknight90]

I want to hear the story about the Drukhari and their city.

[@molliethomas2585]

I second!

[@moreplease998]

Yup. The Eldar as a race are dying out, cept for the Drukhari. They're thriving cos they don't give a fug about mass vat growing themselves and can come back from the dead if there's even a drop of their blood left. Commoragh is growing and growing, like a tumour, spreading through the webway

[@benjaminhenderson5025]

Third

[@nickcarroll8565]

Books are worth a read, if you haven’t

[@wcstroud]

Which nooks

[@Leptospirosi]

I guess the Webway was not initially a caotic emsemble of random tunnels in the warp, but had been created to connect specific place, as the Old Ones, who built it originally, were able to create new webways branches to reach anywhere they wish. The Eldari inherited the webway but could not master it, even at their peek, possibly because of the monstrous psychical might requirements of these golden thrones structures. I can imagine the old ones were using those just as devices to project their will and reach across the galaxy, but the Eldar lacked such powerful psykers to put these machines to good use. This is why Comorragh cannot use it's throne and why the Emperor powers are so appealing to them. I can think that, before the mess of the Horus Heresy, Magnus had been tailored by the Emperor to be psychically strong enough to manage the machine, creating a new webway system that could finally link every planet inhabited by humans. Magnus was not meant to be boud eternally to the throne, but just to operate it when required as the Emperor was too occupied on more pressing matters. This was the "Great Design" of the Emperor: to free mankind form its dangerous dependency from the warp. The fact that the Golden Throne currently serves only to project the Astronomicon and the Emperor has been bound to sit on it just to keep the warp rift created by Magnus closed, is purely collateral to its real potential.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

This makes me think it was originally designed to be controlled remotely because Magnus was able to tap into it from across the galaxy. Perhaps any number of alpha+ psychers were able to share the burden of operating it. Well he sure made sure that was impossible to do anymore.

[@rumorcontrol7873]

Plot twist: Orks built the golden throne

[@thelastshadowftaghn]

All the Dakka!

[@cogline9]

When asked about its function the original creator, a Weird Boi named How Tuddard replied, "It just werkz ya zod!"

[@ElvisPresleyTouchedMe]

Day 5 and I’m back to my encouragement. You do a great job with people and place names. Whether it’s from hearing them in audiobooks, or just sounding them out that’s really hard to do. I’m reading Dostoyevsky at the moment. Even translated, and only “spoken” in my head, that pronunciation is HARD.

[@tibbydudeza]

The problem that the Eldar discovered when they tried to hoodwink the Inquisition/Custodes/Mars for some old parts to study for repair they hoped to find the DNA of the Emperor so that they could clone him to operate their own analog. The throne is useless without a being like the Emperor operating it - Malcador survived a few hours - now this begs the question - is he even human or something else ???. The Martian priests know that is a merging of DAOT - some of the Emperor's own design and mostly Eldar technology.

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[@TheLostPrimarch]

Hello, Nerd!

[@raphie8488]

League of Votann lore says that they used shorter routes/jumps and there was a 50/50 chance of getting lost b4 they had Navigators. They also had some sort of beacons, far less effective then the Astronomicon. The Golden Throne is the second one if I remember correctly, the first one was damaged beyond repair and silver not golden. I guess the "Gold" comes from the addition of Auramite as it helps with psychic abilities. The Golden Throne is most likely Old Ones tech and perhaps a Webway stabilizer. Blackstone is confirmed to be Necron tech as far as I remember.

[@iainballas]

So the first one was... the silver chair? :p

[@mrsamaritan6881]

My understanding is that the "Votanns" (the AI cores) are themselves weaker Astronomicons.

[@raphie8488]

@@iainballas perhaps or both and the one the Emperor & Friends repaired was plastered with Auramite. The first one was burried beneath the sands in Afrika.

[@raphie8488]

@@mrsamaritan6881 Yep those are the Beacons.

[@nomedeuusuario]

yep, it is said that the big e found it ''Of course, as it turned out, there were many more worlds to conquer. The work had scarcely begun. On the banks of the Hyphasis he had won, not for the first time, nor for the last, the throne of the known world. Not long after that, he found another throne. A literal throne. That changed everything. Yes, found it. Well, that’s what he told me.''

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Hey fellow nerds

[@TheWoblinGoblin]

NERD!!!

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Hello, NERD!

[@PrimeRooster]

Hello there...

[@peterjannen6012]

Sup nello ferd?

[@benjaminhenderson5025]

Howdy nerds

[@Masonicon]

the Alien technologies that Golden throne uses are 65 million years old and whoever make alien parts of Golden Throne did evolves humans from apes later

[@inquisitorgarza312]

The Golden Throne could have been a device to control massive sections of the Webway, and that means that this was a creation of the Old Ones or maybe an Eldar made device to connect Terra to the Webway and make it possible to make more pathways, maybe it is to contain something very powerful with a powerful pysker.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

Definitely Old One tech.

[@siberyuswithengard7364]

The thing is inscribed with psychic runes, so it is possible that at least a portion of Eldar tech was integrated during its development... still, the Old Ones hypothesis is very much on the table

[@pills4bill]

@@siberyuswithengard7364 If so I only see four possible outs: 1. barter with the Ynnari for a access to the webway. 2. Call upon Trazyn the Infinite 3. turn to Vashtorr 4. call upon Order Chronos

[@siberyuswithengard7364]

@pills4bill the fact is, however, that only a portion of this rune-tech (speculated to be Eldar in origin) was used for certain. According to the lore, the whole construct is a complicated mass of different kinds of technology, probably even Dark Age of Technology, mixed with xeno psychoreactive materials, and who knows what. We know for sure that at least a portion of it (in my opinion: the base from which the whole structure is derived, probably Eldar in origin) was discovered on Earth during ancient times... to be precise in the same exact location where the Imperial Palace has been erected, along with the Emperor's labs and so on (correct me if I'm wrong, please: I have ton of lore in my head, it gets confusing). It is implied that the Emperor built the whole apparatus from scratches. Even he admits that he havent invented it. However, we should also remember that Throne is not the proper term to describe whatever the apparatus is: according to Malcador, Throne merely describes its function (think about the Throne Mechanicum for Titans and Knights for instance). The Golden Throne isnt even so uncommon and actually there are other similar devices, for example the prototype developed by the Drukhari and another one used by the Death Spectres Astartes Chapter on Occludus (it is called Shariax or Throne of Glass), speculated to be completely xenos in origin. This means, potentially, that the Throne thing is some sort of recurring conceptual technology for advanced races in the galaxy

[@ErrrorWayz]

​Loving your content, I fall asleep to it. The Emperor one was mental though, can't work out if it was genius or a pretentious mess. 😂 Like the golden throne lore, the story where they are sneaking BDSM Eldar (copyright - you but I'm nicking it from here on out) into the palace is epic

[@TheLostPrimarch]

All good, use it for the benefit of mankind. Thank you!

[@ErrrorWayz]

@TheLostPrimarch the Emperor protects.

[@mattshrimp7307]

Great video. Also, I would definitely love to hear more about daemons invading Comorragh.

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Noted!

[@benjaminotalora363]

I'm so used to the true survivor outro I got jumpscared by the new one lol sick beat tho

[@Me-ur5fg]

This was a fantastic video.

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@gregc8831]

Sick beat at the end. Also part of me thinks it wouldn't be negative charge Blackstone because that would potentially throw off the flux capacitor.

[@mayo5713]

Love these videos and love your accent. Keep doing lore! More lore!

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Thanks! Will do!

[@vladimirmihnev9702]

Half of the Galaxy doesn't get the light of the astronomicum. And so far Imperim nillist hasn't yet fallen. How do they travel it couldn't be sub light?

[@pedropierre9594]

They guess by reading the currents, where the Astronomicon can’t reach the warp has very limited routes in it follow the tides at least that’s how it is in some Roguetrader lore

[@michaelpettersson4919]

Slow FTL such as the Tau do it I suppose.

[@chairmanzia3556]

But why was this on earth? From all the artwork, old ones seem to be fat lizard sitting on a chair, throne. So…..

[@LORDKINGQUACK]

I've never thought about that before but it would make alot more sense if the golden throne was built by the old ones given there mastery of warp sorcery, since daot humanity wouldn't have had a use for it since they used ai to guide there ships

[@chairmanzia3556]

@LORDKINGQUACK uh huh, but reality is more likely to be that GW had the thing in there without having substantial lore behind it....hehe

[@renstimpy9313]

The Emperor protects

[@Runner-hd7ug]

The Lost Primarch when he meets the Found Primarch:

[@qp9259]

I actually love that it was still a navigator that was in charge of the Dark Glass project. I know they probably needed navigators, but uh... they could uh... be less willing in this setting. Thats for sure. I havent read the associated book, I'm a filthy casual. So, I'm kinda just taking his willingness for granted to be fair. Could be wrong, maybe hes being extorted or soemthing idk. I'm just kind of a sucker for charecters that know they're fighting their own pragmatic interests for a greater cause. You don't get to be called a hero without sacrifice, and that kind of dynamic might not be as overt as jumping in front of a bullet meant for someone else but it shows someone's charecter. Way better than just making them seem nice. And if you opt not to, you can make someone more complicated. Maybe they're a bastard on an interpersonal level, but they know they're saving lives and they wont waver from that even if it means hurting themselves on a practical level. You can write or imply a lot of layers to that. Maybe there's a resentment, maybe there's stress, but like with familial love, the desire to just fucking help people can overpower that.

[@telmosilva9161]

Some say that at the center of the Golden Throne is Stephen Hawking's chair. So close to 25K, Nerd!

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Very close!

[@coreyspofford4166]

it has alien tech in it also it spans the size of a city, so it is not a chair made of gold it is huge

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Its everything and more :D

[@wolvo5441]

@@TheLostPrimarchand it’s failing :3

[@frazerrhughess]

Your mom is alien tech that spans an entire city

[@sookendestroy1]

It would make sense and also be kind of funny if the throne had blackstone in it, as blackstone can amplify psychic powers and the warp, or if you polarize it can cut off the warp entirely. So if the throne is made with blackstone then it is both empowering the emperor and allowing the demons to break through when he isnt on it, but if they polarized the blackstone in it then terra would be safe from warp incursion but it would also likely kill the emperor

[@ZUGTFO]

Hello nerd right back at ya! ;)

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Hello Nerd!

[@Sealhunt]

I know it was unintentional, but the artwork you used in your video - of the Emperor upon the Golden Throne - makes him look like some kind of Borg...royalty? Probably just me. Forgive me, my Heresy!

[@dougjones3305]

1:45. I can spell disaster for humanity.... Hey humanity! D I S A S T E R Disaster

[@MrJedimedic]

“Paradiggems” is hilarious.

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Happens when you know 3 languages + 1 not completely. They mix.

[@MrJedimedic]

@ not making fun brother, English makes no sense lol

[@MrJedimedic]

@ …wait… you speak 3 plus languages??? NERD! ;)

[@src6339]

Well, the throne could be the fusion of multiple alien technologies gathered from across the galaxy during the dark age of technology. Human explorers and diplomats could have aquired ancient relics, formulas, designs and technologies from long abandoned archaeological sites or directly traded for information and technology with other pre-fall alien empires like the eldar. Had the throne been constructed during the dark age, Human scientist and engineers, having access to vast material and intellectual resources, could have fully reverse engineered whatever alien devices they aquired in order to understand the underlying scientific principles about which said devices operated. Once completed they could then integrate any discovered scientific principles into their own technical and scientific understanding. This in turn would have allowed them to construct a unique hybred device that mimiced the function of any alien device that operated using those priciples. With the right collection of derived scientific knowledge, the humans would not have to actually see an example of a webway building device (like the throne) to be able to make one. Just speculate that its possible and start experimenting. Conceivably much of this new devices functionality would be derived from whatever insight the human engineers gathered from eldar design, however their knowledge from other sources in the same field of study would likely allow them to develop alternate solutions that better suited human methodology. Hence a device that draws many parallels with eldar technology but is still uniquely different. That being said, if that were the case, despite being derived from alien sources, the understanding yielded from such devices would have been fundimentally broken down to first principles then reconstructed within the human scientific framework. The devices from which the knowledge was gathered would have been used merely as examples of applied usage and preserved. Not used in the construction of the throne itself. As such, all components in the throne would be manufactured from scratch, to human specifications. Therefore the basic underlying structure would be uniquely human in design supplemented by many advanced specialised components made of exotic materials typically associated with other 40k factions, but otherwise baring no resemblance to said factions own technology 🤔 As described the throne sounds more like a recovered eldar (or old one) device, that's been patched up by engineers with far fewer resources, who's understanding of the devices functionality is nowhere near as comprehensive as it would likely have been had it actually been constructed by humans before the fall. Therefore it seems more likely that the throne and many of the alien technologies used in its construction where gathered before the fall (as previously described) then jury rigged together by someone who lacked the resources to build a new device from scratch. My guess being that after the fall, the emporer had access to a golden age hord of alien technology, including a broken eldar web way maintenance device, that he repaired and repurposed using whatever materials he had to hand, including his stash of golden age tech and other alien relics. 🤔

[@westongarner-qo2ez]

650th like!👍 Awesome video!🤘 Keep up the awesome work!🤘😎🤘

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Thanks! Will do!

[@dreadnoughtgamingd.n.g3123]

Personal opinion is that all the hints point towards the golden throne being old one tech and the eldar know how to fix it as that's what they were made to do maintain the oldones technology the krorks were definitely the army and the necrons found it and managed to gleem how to use the Blackstone from attempting to reverse engineer it

[@mikem4432]

As far as fiction is concerned, the lore developed from a simple article in the White Dwarf in 1987 where in the Space Marine and Space Orks in a sci-fi medieval eternal war is beyond Tolkein.

[@Zahaqiel]

Possibly also relevant is the Shariax, which is implied to be known of by the Emperor because the Death Spectres' founder brought them to the world of Occludus to use it at the direction of a vision from Him (and the Emperor had been all over during the Great Crusade, so who knows?). The Shariax is significantly less powerful than the Dark Glass or the Golden Throne, but it's a glass throne (so similar vibe to the Dark Glass) and it drains the life-force of the person sitting on it to power its functions. In return for that sacrifice though, the Shariax provides the chapter master of the Death Spectres (each of whom takes up residence on the throne until they die) the ability to psychically oversee the future of the Ghoul Stars which aids them in directing the chapter's movements. Given just how many unknown systems are installed into the Golden Throne, how many lives it consumes to power it, and the fact that the Emperor seems to psychically oversee the whole galaxy from that vantage point to a degree which exceeds his pre-installation level... kinda seems like the GT is a hybrid of the Shariax, the Dark Glass, and probably a bunch of other similar systems from around the galaxy (like the Pharos device), amped up to over 9000.

[@Zarealdark]

The Corpse Emperor sits on a throne of lies. All hail Grandfather Nurgle, the one true way!!

[@stormycatmink]

Do we want to hear more about the Golden Throne? Nah, i think I've heard enough interesting trivia about the unknown sciences in the far future. I'm good. I certainly woudn't want to hear too many cool things or my head might explode.

[@stormycatmink]

okay it's been 7 hours I want more cool trivia

[@megan00b8]

I don't think that the golden throne/astronomicon had anything to do with the Necrons. Consider that only necron technology we have seen there is blackstone. Blackstone while presumably invented, and made mainly by the Necrons, can be mined and used even by primitives who discover a forgotten Necron structure and notice it's properties. And as you've mentioned yourself, the balckstone fortresses don't seem to have much to do with the Necrons either, suggesting that mayhaps the Eldar can manufacture blackstone on their own. The noctilith was probably used as shielding for the more sensitive parts of the device because it doesn't just stabilise the warp, it straight up weakens its connection to the materium, similarly to how a blank might. Also the throne very much doesn't fit the Necrons apparent hatred of the warp. I think it's a much more recent design. It's ability to be projected as a psychic beacon is way too specific in my opinion. If anything I'd expect it was a joint project between mankind, and one of the kinder factions of Eldar shortly before the age of strife, intended to prevent the total loss of interstellar travel for mankind. Hell, it could've been the Emperor himself who led the human side of the project. Maybe they have failed because they couldn't finish it in time, maybe they couldn't find someone who could survive sitting on it, or maybe the more enlightened humans from the age of technology found the brutal sacrifice too much. Plus psykers of that era were weaker, and it was remarked that large parts of the chambers used for harvesting their psychic powers are not being used meaning you could fit a lot more in there. Whatever the reason, if it was meant to prevent the age of strife it has failed in its original task, but the Emperor either knowing of it already or having discovered it at some point during the long night has managed to get the thing running using his own potent psychic might, and now the sacrifices are being used to make him even more powerful. Also consideringnthat the Emperor had to leave the great crusade to work on the webway project suggests it was not initially intended to access it, but could be modified or somehow made to do so since the webway is a construct within the warp.

[@cogline9]

I can't recall what book it was in offhand but a Necron has stated that while they utilize Blackstone in various ways it's essentially a rare mineral found around the galaxy. Discovery of the material was of utmost importance as it is/was generally pretty rare.

[@Grz349]

If I recall the Eldari used black stone to make the weapons knows as black stone fortresses.

[@cogline9]

@ Good point. I'm trying to remember if it was the Imperium of the Necrons who referred to it as "Noctilith." I think it was the Imperium but it comes up so rarely I tend to conflate who said what. In most boons it's just called "blackstone."

[@thunderwarrior1]

I want lore about the seige of commaragh

[@Deuwl]

1000 Nerds sacrificed per day sounds insane. How is this realistic?

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Trillions of Nerds in the galaxy.

[@nomedeuusuario]

Dude it is said in the end and the death that the big E found the throne, so its probly some old tech from old ones or smt like that The exe: ''Of course, as it turned out, there were many more worlds to conquer. The work had scarcely begun. On the banks of the Hyphasis he had won, not for the first time, nor for the last, the throne of the known world. Not long after that, he found another throne. A literal throne. That changed everything. Yes, found it. Well, that’s what he told me.''

[@TheLostPrimarch]

So what is it with people that don't watch the video but rush to comment? I mean I told in the video that he did found it.

[@nomedeuusuario]

@@TheLostPrimarch So what is with ppl that dont even have a proper sense of the lore to put where they got that info :O ?

[@stuartmcclurey9926]

In one story I read the Orks have their own golden throne. Wierd Boyz were on it and more wired to it.

[@L00ww]

noooo where is my "I'M STILL STANDING!!!" at the end??

[@glyngreen538]

Likely the core of the throne was originally built by the Olds Ones surely? Hence it needing such as extremely powerful psyker. It has wraithbone in it by see it as a collaboration between them and their creators. Or maybe the Old Ones originally used wraithbone too and passed the tech on.

[@noobatgames3321]

if its multiple things smashed together even if they aren't human in origin, it is now, because it became something else.

[@Enzo012]

Or perhaps the Emperor just got a bunch of Jokaero to make it and he just claimed he found it under the Himalayas, as you do.

[@ChrisKCook]

Theres also the Pharos on Sotha. Could that be a similar device

[@mikepolley5325]

The soul engine

[@unclepaulie4233]

"Hello NERD" hahahhaha

[@robertbrown6513]

I think if the throne and the emperor were both at full functionality that the emperor could his light everywhere and anywhere. The role of both has been dramatically reduced

[@tooslow4065]

who was on the throne during the great crusade? if no one, how did they navigate without the astronomicon?

[@TheLostPrimarch]

The Emperor was able to control it remotely. When Magnus did a big mistake, the Emperor couldnt leave the throne anynore unless it would mean the end of human webway.

[@tooslow4065]

@@TheLostPrimarch oh, gotcha.

[@James-bs8bd]

What was that outro music?

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Danger snow

[@Maximoepl]

33s speeed

[@TheLostPrimarch]

DAMN

[@alexiachimciuc3199]

is Necronomicon the older sibling of the Astronomicon ??

[@ThommyofThenn]

Well it's certainly not a bidet is it?

[@MuerganoZFG]

1!

[@TheLostPrimarch]

DAMN

[@TheLostPrimarch]

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[@paulbrown-bear1936]

Necron tech

[@leiverikson1517]

Heresy !!!

[@Manwendlil]

do the writers know the golden thrones origins?

[@LazzarrusLong]

Greetings nerd. 🤓

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Hello, Nerd!

[@scratthesquirrel5242]

paradigm is read like para + dime

[@TheLostPrimarch]

English language is weird...

[@scratthesquirrel5242]

@@TheLostPrimarch its because its secretly 3 smaller languages in a trench coat

[@steveotten9473]

oi

[@mrsamaritan6881]

The Golden Throne isn't the Astronomicon. You're mixing two different things together. The Golden Throne doesn't help with warp travel, the Astronomicon does.

[@chriseich3805]

i was about to type the same thing. the astronomicon is a completely separate facility

[@РусланЖалялов-й4р]

But this structure is fueled with energy from the throne, so it is connected

[@rgytos]

Golden Throne Is made to be control interface for astronomicon +power source

[@BenjaminSmith-pr8hb]

He never said it was the same thing

[@TheLostPrimarch]

I didnt mean that the throne and it is the same thing, what I did say it that it functions as interface. Astronomicans facility is wicked on a different level with those coffinlike structures for psykers to be drained from.

[@steffanreichenbach3124]

BUT there is a major problem to this theories ! If the golden throne was this mix of three technologies, when it was build ?? very ancient ,iat the ´war in heaven´ time ?? At this time it was very unlikely that the old ones tech and necron tech come together and who build it ?? Later in the golden Age of mankind the Emperor was around on earth and should have witnessed the errection of such a monumentel thing ! And also where comes wraithbone and the necron materials to construct it ?? Last, when we talk about necron-tech is it necrotyr tech or C´taan tech ?? And how are these ones being involved ??

[@TheLostPrimarch]

I actually believe it is DAOT tech, a reverse engineered machine

[@PJ-pv2qi]

can someone pls tell me context what is this anime or something??

[@TheLostPrimarch]

It is 40000 years in future where humanity is attacked from all sides, a godlike entity named Emperor of Mankind protect the human race using transhuman soldiers called Space Marines from alien and daemonic threats. Humanity travels the galaxy by cutting distance through cosmic hell where chaos gods live. The future is endless and grim war. It is suffering, it is pain, it is doom. Billions die every day, and that is acceptable for the survival of the species.

[@strikerrey6016]

Lmao Paradigm is pronounced Para-Dime not paradigum

[@Jake-tw2tb]

Wasn't this well-established lore?

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Not really, gotta scrape it together from different sources and even then its not really direct. The only factual thing is that it was "found".

[@WhoLetTheGameOut]

Para DIG ms

[@colinscutt5104]

NERD

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Nerd!

[@Dadecorban]

A rather high percentage of this video is unsupported by actual sources in reality, and virtually of it lacks any citation. Much of it is just plain contrary to existing sources and wrong.

[@TheLostPrimarch]

You are literally lying. Why? Where I speculate - I state it, and anyone with two braincells by doing a simple google search can understand that you lie. I don't have to list every single source just because your ass is too lazy to actually do any research by yourself. I even state that my videos are highly speculative. What are you so buthurt about?

[@aidkik580]

I like your videos but Damn do you drag them out WAY too much, cmon man you could've shortened this by 10 minutes and made it so much more watchable!!! Just like most of your vids, they're very interesting just toooo long

[@TheLostPrimarch]

So now that you said you like my videos I should just turn the other cheek? Shut up. Your poor attention span does not constitute an emergancy for me. They are not dragged out, they have structure, and I make the videos in a way I like to make them not to accomidate impatient children. Go watch Shorts videos or TikTok.

[@cinders11037]

massive outro downgrade, unsubbing if it sticks TEE BEE H

[@TheLostPrimarch]

If the outro is what kept you here, then maybe you shouldn't be here

[@eustacemcgoodboy9702]

This accent. I just can't listen to it.

[@MrJohnkorn]

Then don't, no one is forcing you

[@TheLostPrimarch]

Jep, what he said. Go complain elsewhere.

[@eustacemcgoodboy9702]

@@TheLostPrimarch What even are you? I'm gonna guess....countryside Finnish.