Real Producers Don't Use Loops

[@DJPain1]

Get these 🔥 royalty free loops here: thesamplelab.com/pages/the-gold-standard-production-suite

[@MarlonSan2024]

Just got it! So much heat!!! 🔥

[@willhernandez8334]

do you know if the drum loops are broken down into individual stems or a full loop?

[@DJPain1]

@@willhernandez8334 both

[@onetimegd]

This debate will continue forever. People need to realise that the producer community is exactly that, a niche community. Music is not made for producers alone, it's made for the entire world, and everyone else does not care how the music is made - they just care how it sounds.

[@DJPain1]

🎯

[@YoungGuala]

On point! Was going to comment somthing very similar! Truth is....listeners don't really care...If it sounds good...they like it...end of story

[@Pabloesc571]

That's a dumb argument. Of course only producers care. So if I own a company that makes houses it's fine to make the house from bullshit that's going to fall apart because nobody cares? 😂 I know it's not exactly the same but loops being so accepted only hurts the producers. People are selling bundles for 1$ .... Only because their shit has no value. I would never sell my stuff for a dolar. If I was a graphic designer I could rip an already made template from Canva for my customer and yeah he would like it. He would be super pissed if he found out though. I don't support fake ass wannabees if you are not willing to put the time into learning music just leave. Have some respect for yourself and stop lying to people.

[@ceelothatmane9421]

Hip Hop is sample heavy, but a lot of the biggest pop hits we know from the past 2 decades were composed from the bottom up. May be conventional and repetitive in choice of chord progression, but hip hop isn’t the only music. Try to call yourself a jazz producer, but you’re using loops. You’d get laughed out the club. Try making a song for a tenured NeoSoul/RnB artist, but you’re using loops. They’ll laugh you out the studio. Sampling is different.

[@Pabloesc571]

@ceelothatmane9421 I agree but using loops isn't sampling. It's just using loops

[@ZonymaUnltd.]

Knowing how to compose your own stuff and knowing how to flip samples are two different skills that require their own method. Each has their place. Do what’s good for the music.

[@DJPain1]

True

[@ceelothatmane9421]

Not really. If you can compose then sampling is fairly easy. That’s like saying “knowing how to play the drums and programming drums are two separate skills” but any drummer can program drums with just acquiring the knowledge of how to use the instrument that programs them. That’s why a lot of big beat makers were ex drummers in bands, church, etc.

[@akashaur]

The loop/sample haters always forget that most prods are also loop/sample makers That's like the #1 way producers collab w each other, we be making samples to send to each other

[@Poopymattyt]

I’ve used loops and I have 0 attachment to those beats, if I play a beat made w a loop and someone complements, I feel no satisfaction where as I would when someone says the like a beats I made from scratch

[@DJPain1]

@@Poopymattyt maybe it’s a problem with your process.

[@SINEWEAVER-]

Yeah I could imagine nothing is more satisfying as knowing you made your track it’s like home cooking 🔥

[@thatsjasn]

I remember when Polow Da Don used Apple Loops to produce what we know as Love In This Club by Usher back in 2008. I remember some people on forums reacting like “OMG he used Apple Loops.” Polow got paid and of course the average listener ain’t thinking Apple Loops. To them, they probably would think that’s the name of some knock off cereal brand lol

[@MaryPoppinOfPimpin]

Reminds me didn't The-Dream also make Umbrella all in Garage Band with loops too?! It's crazy because I remember being like 13 around then messing with Garage Band and never ever realized it. Basically if it sounds good and then it's good. Trust the process.

[@DJPain1]

Exactly!

[@elijahhenderson3505]

Loops are a tool like any other thing musicians use. It's all about how you use those fools.

[@SamSilk]

I don't hate loops, but I pity the tool.

[@YoungGuala]

So true! People need to get in with new ways of making music, such as AI, loops, etc., and integrate them with previous experience to create good sound.

[@Enice43]

Loops and splice stuff it’s OK. I particularly don’t use them because I am musician so I rather play them the way I want and get the feeling and presence that way, but loops and people that use splice that has a place but not for me.

[@dayonebeats]

Being able to make your own samples is what sets you apart from everyone else. I once DM'd a famous producer for a collab and to my surprise he responded with "send loops", I missed a lifetime opportunity because I was relying on loops from others and couldn't make any of my own. I'm never gonna hate on people who only use loops though because that's just less competition for me.

[@DJPain1]

@@dayonebeats it’s one thing that sets people apart, but those producers you were trying to collab with who needed loops are already set apart.

[@dayonebeats]

@@DJPain1 Yeah everyone uses loops, but its a huge advantage if you can make your own, especially with real instruments and in the beginning of one's career since you can send them out

[@willhernandez8334]

Love how real you always keep it!

[@DodgaOfficial]

I use loops all the time, one of the things that improved my music was realizing, not every single part has to be directly from you as long as it works and sounds good. I like to focus my creativity on my best aspects, and while I can do really good drums, and often I will program my own drums if the loop isn't cutting it or doesn't have enough of a progression for my song, but being able to just throw a drum loop on top of my shit to see how it's vibing is invaluable.

[@DJPain1]

@@DodgaOfficial that’s a good point too

[@tavenner07]

Are you saying you’ll kinda test out a melody/harmony with a drum loop?

[@DodgaOfficial]

@@tavenner07 yeah, pretty much, like if I'm working on a rnb type piano loop, and am just trying to focus on that, I don't wanna have to go spend time programming drums to see if it works, so just dragging in a drum loop often brings it together and saves lots of time and headache. It also kinda gives you a guideline for if you do go and program your own drums, you kinda know what vibe it needs to have.

[@novelresponse]

Personally, I make music in a dark room for nobody to hear but me. It's therapeutic. 🎶 😊 🎹

[@DJPain1]

@@novelresponse which is totally reasonable

[@EternalRecurrence88]

I’m not a real producer, but i don’t use loops.

[@dave3987]

They do use loops being a producer I make my own original loops because knowing the legal ramifications! I would get permission first and give the original creator credits.

[@DJPain1]

What are the legal ramifications of using royalty free loops?

[@totz4245]

Afrojack wasn’t hating , but I get where he’s coming from. There are producers you admire so much that their work leaves you in awe of their genius. But then you find out they built a track using just three samples from the same sample pack-or even a straight-up construction kit-and it kind of chips away at the mystique. Fred’s undeniably a genius; he’s crafted tracks where he’s used loops and samples in an absolutely masterful way. That said, there are also times when it feels like he’s leaned on them a bit more lazily. I think producers tend to respect those who use loops and samples with more creativity and originality. lets not get it twisted too, having a hit song and artistry are different things, not all hit songs are great songs and not all great songs are hit songs. some producer are great, but can’t make a hit song to safe their lives.

[@prod.bybenjah]

I don`t think using loops makes you a bad producer, but of course it's lazy too skip the creative part and just use a loop! It saves a lot of time and may be it`s the only way too stay competitive. Quantity is too important these days and it`s hard to keep up with original compositions. With that being said, I feel u DJ Pain but I feel the haters too ;) PEACE!

[@YoungGuala]

Great video and excellent points! The ending was def the best :) Lets challenge ourselves to make millions with or without loops and support each other in the process!

[@DJPain1]

@@YoungGuala 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@jloiben12]

This is beyond stupid. What is sampling? What are jazz standards? What are cover songs? There is only one answer to this “debate”

[@MrSubstance]

Ultimate Breaks and Beats compilation LPs - used by a plethora of producers in the 80s - often had breaks that were looped by the compilers.

[@mfghost3340]

My opinion... I use to be stuck in that way of thinking as well but id say alot of people who say "Real producers dont use loops" lack talent / creativity and cant make a decent loop from scatch and it causes Hate, jealously, Envy to other producers. My mind changed once I was in the studio with other creatives and I would have never made alot of the beats i made if other producers with different sounds wasnt there. 2 to even 3 producers in one studio are just sampling themselves

[@thelastgreatmanintheuniverse]

Use what ever you want.

[@DJPain1]

@@thelastgreatmanintheuniverse 🎯

[@ottomanbeatsofficial]

People have told me “professionals/real producers” dont use mixer templates and presets especially create their own to make their own workflow faster and more productive. 🤦‍♂️😂 Secondly: as if no doctor,movie director , teacher, nurse is doing for the love. WE ALL DO IT FOR THE MONEY.

[@DJPain1]

😂😂

[@wm1573]

If you use ONLY loops and samples created by somebody else then yes i cant take you seriously. If you have the ability to actually play an instrument or instruments then its not as big deal in my opinion. I personally sometimes do strictly sample based hip-hop, because i enjoy the digging process. Then other day i grab guitar, bass, piano, synth etc and compose my own shit.

[@jrountree584]

@wm1573 I stay away from samples due to potential copyright infringements. As far as loops are concerned, you forget that a loop can be the foundation/base or small part of potential beat/song. You still have to build or add other elements around it to complete it...... who wants to listen to a 2- 3 minute long repeating loop......

[@wm1573]

@jrountree584 a lot of people. There are a lot of popular hip hop songs that have a simple loop playing for 4 minutes.. and my point was that a lot of so called "producers" take ready loops from somewhere add generic trap drums on top and act like they made some heat lol. My whole issue is that many people don't bother learning actual instruments, production, music theory etc and then they act like they're "producers". I don't give a fuck if the music is simple or loopy as long as you used your ability to make it

[@Dihmarko]

Using 4/4 loops with the same generic trap beat template behind them is just lazy. But use them with reasons grain sampler to drastically change them.

[@OfficialHavocOsiris]

It gets lost in translation when producers phrase it as if they don’t care who’s listening or that they make it for themselves What they mean is that they want to make what they want in an era where the algorithm pushes what it pushes

[@DJPain1]

Honestly neither of us know what another person is thinking 🤷🏽

[@DManDaDemon]

It’s a balance. Taking loops and flipping it to something unique on top of adding your own creative flair. That’s being a producer. Like playdough. You can make you own playdough and also grab others and mold it to your liking. That’s how I learn it anyway

[@AdamElteto]

Producers bickering about what "real" producers do. Spirit of Quincy Jones: "Ha."

[@smartmouthriveria]

i've only seen kids and young adults use loops, they also look down on beat making. Whatever works, I guess......

[@DJPain1]

@@smartmouthriveria Timbaland is a young adult?

[@smartmouthriveria]

@ but Tim has a team like Dre .

[@DJPain1]

@@smartmouthriveria which young adult produced ‘get your freak on?’

[@smartmouthriveria]

@ …..the timbaland loop pack lol. I’m not knocking loops however a professional producer who only uses loops adds to why creativity is looked down on. loop producers are getting placements. Not beat producers or sample based producers. Soooooo……

[@SINEWEAVER-]

Id never consider a beat maker as one of the greatest producers in the first place

[@Kattywampus]

Personally, with the type of out-of-pocket stuff I make, I HOPE I get sampled.(With credit of course) Samples make hip-hop and edm go 'round.

[@camefromnothing6490]

Yes, cap I go to school. They say all the top producers in the music industry use loops.

[@Veridi]

Nobody ever talks about the fact that editing and chopping samples can lead to artifacts, they always sound choppy, and samples often sound like they're just a song pasted into another song. Compositionally, you also can't do basic things, like varying or extending parts, without more editing and chops, which will just make it sound more fake. And if you remake the sample, you could have just taken inspiration from it instead. And if you take inspiration from and study art, you're basically using the standard most powerful method of creating and learning to make art, in any form, and so we have our control back.

[@Southernkhal]

Maybe 13-14 years ago(or more) I swore off sampling. A good friend got sued for $15k, and never saw a dime. Plus, DRUGS beats had good issue with KC and the sunshine band. So I quit. But maybe 6-7 years ago when I felt motivated to make music again, I dropped all the barriers I put in front of myself: sampling, loops, collaborating and writing again, I felt free again! The most important thing I want to leave with people is: consumers only care about the end results! No beat maker, or producer (like myself) is going to make or break you. So, make your music, just make it your own and make it good!! I’ll use a loop. But typically, it’s a clean sound (guitar, piano etc) and if I can, I’ll make an interpolation of it or only use it to accent what I’ve done.

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

I play and capture all my own samples and make my own loops, and release almost nothing because it’s not worth the hassle of putting up with all the crybabies and making no money. I might start releasing things again, just for my own entertainment. This is a good analysis of the symptoms presenting in this space.

[@vco7531]

I can never understand dragging pre made loops into your session and just leaving it as is.. Like is that fun for you? Creative expression? Artistic merit? Anything like that?

[@anteupbeats]

I remember when I used loops. Shazamed I and 10,000 other people used it.

[@tavenner07]

I thought that Shazam used inaudible frequencies to “register” your track

[@DJPain1]

@@anteupbeats 🧢 Shazam doesn’t tell you how many different producers used a loop 😂

[@anteupbeats]

@ the point is it’s been used. And sometimes it comes up with different artists using the same loop.

[@OfficialAbednego]

Diggin in the crates was exactly this. Loop digging. It’s just easier nowadays. If I could afford to pay someone to grab all my vinyl, sample, edit, loop, label appropriately, and add key, I would. But these services just make it easier. At the end of the day the average listener does not care if you played it, sampled it, or used splice.

[@YoungGuala]

YEP! Facts...people need to understand this and stop hating lol

[@an10na91]

The Beatles were classified as a rock n roll band but in reality they weren’t tied to a genre,they did rock, psychedelia,balladry,English music hall etc.. This is creativity.sticking to a formula where you can make ten pieces a day and you’re allowed to use other people’s music is surely a lower art form

[@Stereoforge]

laughs in "Amen Break"

[@bboymac84]

Same with DJs. Only DJs care what software and gear other DJs use. Same with dance and any other sub culture. Support the people that support your pockets! If they ain’t here to help ignore them…🤷🏾‍♂️😁

[@DJPain1]

@@bboymac84 true

[@stiptreezy8481]

Acting like using a splice loop is all you need for a beat is wild lmao I think most people who use loops are also adding their own elements to it. The real magic is in knowing how to produce organically and with samples/loops. 💯

[@Poopymattyt]

Admit to yourself the beats you’ve made 100% from scratch hold a deeper place in your heart

[@DJPain1]

@@Poopymattyt sample based beats I’ve made hold the deepest place

[@michaeldaniels8818]

so you create all of your sounds from a sign wave ?????

[@Poopymattyt]

@@michaeldaniels8818 sound design

[@DJPain1]

@@michaeldaniels8818 you do realize you're talking to Poopy Matty, right?

[@Elusive47Ent]

I started with loops and grew from there! Agree with your thoughts🤟

[@Reggieeeeeeee322]

as a listener I don't care how the tune was made or composed of.

[@djtanikgotbeatz]

Hey pain do you know where there are some upcoming producer events ? I’m located in Cali but I’m willing to travel 🧳

[@itsrelativ3967]

Sampling fully composed records/songs and stacking individual loop stems are two different skills. I prefer to create my own melodies and them turn the one(s) I like the most into an audio loop. I basically sample myself now. Although I made fire beats with Loopcloud and Splice years back, it took longer to finish them because of scrolling through so many pages to find the next complimentary melody.

[@blackandgreyedout8337]

I DO IT ALL THAT IS A PRODUCER I PLAY I SAMPLE I LOOP DO WHAT WORKS

[@michaeltrenier]

It’s all subjective. There’s somebody somewhere that can play 10 instruments and has no ear for a hit. There’s a guy somewhere that can’t tell B minor from A Major that is a millionaire. Loops are like hiring session players (Cough Storch was a session player cough) hey bassist play this for me. Then you add everything else. It’s producing. There are so many layers to this conversation. Pete Rock versus a Pharrell. Dilla Vs. Butch Vig. I mean a producer MAKES RECORDS. That’s my two cents lmao great vid per usual bro.

[@yurikalashnikov2460]

I only use organic fair trade loops.

[@SimonePhoenix]

Bwahahaha 🤣👊🏽

[@Crazysteve0017]

Rihanna drums for Umbrella are from garageband , a loop and we all know how big that song was when it came out probably one of her biggest hits of all time 💯😭

[@DJPain1]

@@Crazysteve0017 iTz nOt a rEAL sOnG

[@Crazysteve0017]

@DJPain1 That's corny as fuck , ofc it is 😭💯

[@BeatsByJ]

Once had a guy on Facebook hit me up complimenting my music and production, then tried to show me up by asking how many beats I make a week. Regardless of my answer, which I think back then was like '3', he immediately fires back with, "oh, that's cool. I make 6-8 beats a day." Also told me it was "cute" how I used 808s in a beat of mine he'd heard. Needless to say, he got deleted real quick, and I've still never heard his name outside of my inbox 😂

[@DJPain1]

He sounds like the bitch ass dudes in my comments section... maybe they all know each other

[@gianluca8962]

Why my comment is disappear?

[@balystycproductionsllc460]

Nothing wrong with loops. However, it took the creativity away I cannot tell you how many times I’ve been in sessions with producers using the same loops with different drums.

[@Kadenxe]

Cause if you want to build an audience on social media it's more advantageous to show videos of you playing stuff in than using a loop. Nothing that's easy impresses people, and it's not entertaining to watch someone make a beat using premade loops. Unless your drum programming is earth shattering then it doesn't matter

[@DJPain1]

that kxvi loop flip video I was in did pretty well

[@Kadenxe]

@@DJPain1 flipping a loop and just using a loop are two different things. not many producers know how to do it, so you're adding value. but most producers are just dragging in the loop and using the way it is

[@ThefrequencyAF]

“From this day forward whenever I work with someone I tell them we’re not gonna make loops first. It’s a wonderful way to waste time.” -John Mayer The problem isn’t loops but getting stuck in loop mode where everyone sounds the same. Timbo didn’t sound like Pharrell despite using loops. He still developed his sound pre social media. Today- It’s the same 808 glide. It’s too easy today. Fire up Fruity Loops and boom- insta producer.

[@IskuBeats]

I’ll use samples if i can clear them, loops if they are what i need for the beat, and compose and sound design every time either way. Make beats however you make them. Stop worrying too much! 😅

[@itch9929]

It depends on what your making if your doing drum and bass and using the classic breaks and splicing samples like the amen break or the Apache break ect I see nothing wrong with that.

[@JohnShaft5.0]

Ive never used loops... Feel like it's someone else's... Definitely lazier

[@stiptreezy8481]

You just gotta be creative with the way you flip it to make it feel more like yours. It can feel lazier sometimes but the results can also be very rewarding.

[@amp_unlimited]

Madlib is the Loop Digger! The MF DOOM song 'One Beer' produced by Madlib is an all time great beat, and pretty much straight up loops😊

[@jordanpeakofficial]

Ever heard of the amen break?

[@libtekk]

If you build your own loops you gain more self satisfaction but also learn how things are done with much more freedom to change things up, however who cares if someone using loops, the next game is AI is that a sell out. If it sounds good then enjoy yourself

[@chinering23]

10:08 You will not carve your OWN sound by using other peoples sounds, make your own loops and samples, build a library and use them, they are yours and you made them.

[@BeatMaster2000]

Ooooh i get it. So if Gordan Ramsey makes a dish and flash freezes it, and sends it to me to unthaw and serve it i will inherently have master chef status. Makes perfect sense👍👍👏👏👏👏

[@DJPain1]

Book a consultation with me and we can work on your analogies 😂

[@BeatMaster2000]

@ looool. Much love pain 😂

[@user-xedwsg]

But!! slippery slope, add A.I. to the convo. whats wrong with using A.i. generated loops/music?

[@DJPain1]

@@user-xedwsg consent matters and it makes all the difference in the world

[@spacemmuzikh1005]

I think we all know what this statement means, but lazy producers will just act dum for debate sake or to make themselves feel better. Real producers dont use loops, if they happend to, they are creative about it. Not playing laygos.

[@DJPain1]

@@spacemmuzikh1005 “real producers don’t use loops.’ Also, ‘real producers use loops but it’s different when they do it.’ You guys are so unserious

[@spacemmuzikh1005]

@DJPain1 if they happend to use them.

[@DJPain1]

@@spacemmuzikh1005 real producers don't reply to comments, unless they happen to reply to them

[@Rapproduca]

Even Jesus was against moralism 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@matthewrichardharris]

Guys, here's the deal, if you're a professional producer / composer, I can assure you that no-one, not the artist, the label, the manger, cares if you you use loops. All anyone cares about is whether the song works for the artist, and could be a potential hit. I've been in countless recording sessions with several high level producers and artists and I can assure you that no-one even talks about loops. They just care if the loop can be cleared. Thanks Pain for explaining this to everyone, you are spot on. This is a discussion that doesn't even need to be had. Ridiculous waste of time debating this.

[@kricketaudio]

Loops are basically session musicians. Same thing with vsts.

[@anteupbeats]

🧢🧢

[@d-1beats]

I still dont believe using Splice loops in that context you presented is very creative. It's a lazy approach to production, specifically sampling but as you've said, if theres an audience and it makes money the fans dont care 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@chinering23]

5:37 It's true, the only reason you can't agree is because you're trying to sell samples so your bias is clearly on show. How long would it have taken to make that one shot in a synth, be it hardware or software then reverse it? Most of music these days is lazy, the beats are crap and boring. Music in general has totally devolved at this point. The state of the music industry and streaming platforms I wouldn't recommend anyone take it up as a full time career.

[@farraribeats]

I think most people that say this dumb stuff are younger producers who just got into hip hop and don’t understand the history of sampling (rappers delight). Without sampling, hip hop and trap probably wouldn’t exist who knows. Metro and Mustard are making some of the biggest hits currently and those hit songs sample other songs.

[@DJPain1]

Which is weird because this is the generation of loopmakers

[@user-xedwsg]

no, its not just youn producers, didnt you watch the video? AfroJack is a veteran producer and he is complaining

[@RichSounds-YT]

People should stop thinking theres Rules to this shit.. we dont gaf about your opinions

[@gehadbarghouthi2561]

We all know this fact, if you didn’t make the instrument, you’re taking shortcuts and aren’t a true musician

[@DJPain1]

@@gehadbarghouthi2561 yOuR rItE

[@Aliengroover]

The reality is you can Splice and loop it up all day, it still doesn't make the beat any good, much less the song as a whole. Look at the mid to late 80s when there were quite a few people who used the same main sample. You had different beats with different quality. Even with sample packs and websites you still have to pick the right sounds and put them together. But what do I know? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@maiastniki]

LOOPS ARE MICROWAVEABLES 😭 timb can use loops because its not diminishing or discrediting his skill

[@maiastniki]

and we'll never learn that sometimes if something works it works

[@DJPain1]

@@maiastniki 😂 ‘if you use loops, you’re trash… unless you’re a producer I like, then my argument falls apart’

[@JamesAllenDjMadlogik]

Sounds a lot like...Real DJ's only mix on vinyl to me, the only people who say this are DJ's that never changed with the times, some made it, most play in their Nan's basement, they don't do Ministry London or Boiler room sets though.

[@youholexxXy]

you realy have time to make every drum high hat do the videos enyoj

[@_prodsky]

love that ur real man. keep doin u

[@JayfkProductions876]

Real Producers Don't Use Loops? Hiphop: Oh Really? 😂

[@eddiecainbeats]

Creativity is creativity my friend. And talent is all about perspective because you have to be creative. The People who say this usually are the people with all the Nice shiny gear but music sound like shit or they can play every note 🎵 on. The piano but still can’t make songs because they’re still trying to prove How deep the chords their playing. When less is More. The Consumer cares about how it makes them feel

[@ES-cl5hi]

For me its the laws behind loops, its a free for all and too much risk to publish any work involving loops not worth the stress

[@OfficialHavocOsiris]

Which ones do you use? I use Ampify.

[@ES-cl5hi]

@OfficialHavocOsiris Fl Cloud, best loops in the market in my opinion espicially percussion wise? Hows Amplify is the U.I any good?

[@OfficialHavocOsiris]

@ I find it easy for myself to use it because my bread and butter is more along the lines of “electronic/hip hop soundscapes”. So I make stuff from their packs in the program. It’s how I fell in love with reversing, chopping, slicing, etc. I end up flipping mine to get stuff out of beats I make in FL or Serato To give you a more direct answer, I do think the user interface is pretty easy to use but then Ampify is more sound design than anything else. Still helps to have FL or another DAW

[@ES-cl5hi]

@@OfficialHavocOsiris Sounds quite handy, im usually a pro tools guy so im 3months new to Fl. That genre you produce sounds interesting do you work with artists?

[@OfficialHavocOsiris]

@ I do! I can work with artists and producers

[@johnwatkins1944]

This is such a stupid debate. First of all, famous producers do use loops. Dr. Dre literally used to bring Scott storch in the studio with him just to play piano loops and some of his biggest hits came from those loops from the chronic 2000. But nobody famous uses loops right? 😒 But more importantly, How is it okay to sample but not okay to use a loop? Why would I want to use something that I'm going to have to pay? Quite a bit of money to clear when I could use a royalty-free loop? By the way, I have placements WITH LOOPS! The only thing the label cared about was did I use any uncleared samples and the answer was no every time. At the end of the day, the name of the game as a producer is get the job done by any means necessary. Whether you use loops, AI, etc, as long as you're combining it with your own creativity, the sky is the limit! Don't ever let anyone tell you what you can and cannot use to make heat!! If it's hot, I promise no one is going to care how you made it except other producers apparently 😒

[@Rhekluse]

Some of the people saying “don’t use samples or loops” are some of the same people pushing “buy my sample packs”. In the end, try to use the samples & loops you choose more creatively. Make them your own for the sake of the track and your own originality and style.

[@DJPain1]

@@Rhekluse I’d just suggest that people make great music. Whatever loop you use, even if it’s ’as-is,’ create the best possible song around it, eg the Sabrina carpenter song.

[@SIATPhoenix]

Hey guys just made a million dollars off of a splice loop

[@DJPain1]

@@SIATPhoenix nice

[@bladebloodchild]

"Read the comments. I'm not very talented." Me too, Pain. LOL

[@DJPain1]

😂

[@312dasbkilla]

I call bs , so many top award winning producers use loops

[@DJPain1]

@@312dasbkilla true

[@commonchild3054]

When I first started all I had was samples. No VSTs. We didn't have Splice either. I just had Fruity Loops, a record player, and CDs. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of "real musicians" actually use some of the things they slam but speak out so they can feel superior. Every industry has their share of "real ones" haha. It's silly! Thanks for the video!

[@DJPain1]

@@commonchild3054 loop packs back then were 99% trash too, we had it rough 😂

[@commonchild3054]

@@DJPain1 Great memories though for sure :)

[@HellcatTheSavage]

Loops packs are fine, The only problem using loops is the creative process can be limited and a lot quicker. I find much more joy in finding samples and chopping.

[@LIROELQBREGA]

You used a loop so that makes you DJ Fake 1

[@DJPain1]

true

[@davidpatterson4547]

Flipping samples takes a special person to hear and rearrange something in their head first that an average person wouldn't hear!! Cant discredit loops or sampling!!

[@peterdwyer6118]

Iv been using splice n loopcloud since I started. Iv only being producing 6 months. I made this decision as I want to get dialled in with my masters and overall sound quality. I then started to use my own beats. Now I'm using my own bass lines. So once I fully understand software then il make the slow transition to fully creating my own music. I have no music theory I have to Google chords but I play by ear.

[@ALL4BEATZ]

Watching this as I cook up my next beat upload with a bunch of loops from your new sound kit 🤣

[@DJPain1]

@@ALL4BEATZ 😂 thank you

[@hundopmusic]

At the end of the day, there’s more than way to make music and if someone is using loops, who really cares?

[@radiosmith8207]

👑

[@jackmademusic]

Wow you just went deep bro

[@MaN0STiJ3raS]

Lmaoo. Conductor Williams got a placement with Drake. Off a Jimmy Q sample Pack. Not once but twice😂. But hey everyone has their own way that they’re paving towards the Main Industry. I’m not hating get that money🤑

[@DJPain1]

@@MaN0STiJ3raS yep

[@keejay12]

Only egotistical producers who cant get the placements they want still try to keep this goofy ass debate alive.

[@DJPain1]

@@keejay12 that kinda checks out

[@supermcfly100]

Tell that to grandmaster flash.

[@pmbison73]

These days it doesn't matter fasho.

[@SIDotaku]

The main sound on Gorillaz's "Clint Eastwood", which is their first and biggest hit EVER, was a stock sound from a Casio keyboard used as is.