Real-Scale Starcraft: Mass Recall - Zerg! - pt 1

[@JulianCastelle23]

The Reaver continues to be the supreme boss of the universe in this campaign

[@taewoosuh9323]

As they should be

[@CBRN-115]

Machine grub goes crawl

[@Dianbler]

it's a worm, and, as we know, worms can hold humanity.

[@jedimindtrick3391]

Always was.

[@M.eo.N]

​@@Dianbler *THE* *ENTIRE* *HUMANITY*

[@momom6197]

SC1 HTs require an upgrade for hallucination too! Without upgrades, their only ability is morphing into archons.

[@petrowegynyolc7108]

And with OG 120hp damage psystorm they were destroyers of worlds, so it's perfectly balanced.

[@Sarevok_Anchev]

The moving super OP Protoss factory. Reaver. Reaver you say? Damn executor, we must warp more of these guys, they are seriously badass!

[@cancerguy5435]

Where'd you study tactics, Karax?

[@astecheee1519]

Imagine if Reavers could target air as well...

[@poilboiler]

Ah yes "reavers". We have dismissed those claims.

[@petrowegynyolc7108]

- Daamn Arty, are those Reaver bikes? - Good eye-lenses, Fenixus!

[@SylvisNuvara]

@@petrowegynyolc7108 we need a wings of liberty mod that's just "what if fenix lived" so he hangs out with raynor through the whole campaign (after all, he can still throw down with the best of them)

[@7thAce]

I playtested this campaign, so I have a few notes! There used to be a 2nd reaver on mission 2. They also shot faster. It was horrifying. I almost mined out the map in an attempt to test without going mutalisks. The muta is excellent against small targets but bad against highly armored targets. Just like in Heart of the Swarm, their bounce damage was increased. Early economy feels a ton better here because Mass Recall has hatcheries start with all larva available where SC1 has hatcheries spawn their first larva at 0:00. Being able to use all of your minerals for drones immediately makes a huge difference. I'm glad the hatchery health buff I advocated for made a difference already in mission 1 lol. It felt like bases melted instantly, so all of the town hall structures were made a little chonkier. I think it takes like 4 drones per gas geyser in most cases due to placement. This campaign is tons of fun! Lots of unit varieties are viable and extremely satisfying to play.

[@Taldaris]

"We're slaughtering" *Reaver shoots and kills half Grant's army in one shot* You called?

[@HyperFocusMarshmallow]

Dagoth was subtly trying to tell you to 4-pool because the Terran was proxy-raxing.

[@SylvisNuvara]

you can really tell daggoth studied tactics at the florencio academy

[@HyperFocusMarshmallow]

@@SylvisNuvara I didn't really see neither of Nexus recall rush nor corner ninja base, but I bet Dagoth would be ready if they hit. As long as there are no DTs, cerebrates are quite capable.

[@cancerguy5435]

RSMR is honestly such a treat of a mod, I adore it. And getting pretty much the whole campaign in one pack? That's some major awesomeness!

[@kirimaru73]

Sunken Colony 6:27 Damage: 60 vs Capital Ship: 120 Alarak: Tell me, how did you lose Aiur to these animals? Did they leap up and chew apart your starships?

[@Jeikobu]

We need a Heart of the Memes mod, Raptorlings need an anti-air jumping attack that does bonus to capital ships.

[@martinpachu7125]

its a LONG sunken

[@cowcat8124]

The banelings spew acid when they die!

[@overestimatedforesight]

... Unless we could have a ground based capital ship...

[@ThouCharadise]

​@@overestimatedforesight building sized reavers

[@blackwind2992]

If only zerg have some kind of flying unit that also can scout, the highground Reaver wouldn't have been such a terror

[@HuxtableK]

But they don't have anything like that. The Zerg is famous for their lack of air units.

[@sneediumminer]

the muta gets killed in roughly 3 hits by every toss AA unit

[@SylvisNuvara]

perhaps it could even be a detector?

[@quickdraw6893]

@@sneediumminer But overlords don't

[@breathofire1449]

Can't wait for Mass Recall real scale Marine, Ling and Zealot only 🤪

[@kopazwashere]

Hey kid, dont use your last drone to make a building! -Daggoth

[@cancerguy5435]

Target it down~ Target it down🎵 That's the "Target it down" song!

[@ZeJapi]

It would be nice if you quickly show the stats of all the units how they differ from the base game

[@PIZZA4021]

Anyone noticed the cannons hit lings in an AOE?

[@mimicrymwot]

and i think dragoons did too?

[@garlicohen960]

I think it was an unavoidable measure to keep the balance. Dealing high damage to a single target won't work for real scale Zerg.

[@7thAce]

There's a bunch of stuff that does very small amounts of splash which I think is really good to help against mass zergling domination. Really strong design choice to make it basically only affect the tiny units.

[@tarkdraan310]

I always like how grant is surprised by getting +2 on zerg mission 2 but never mentions that terran get their +2 AND +3 on the same mission

[@EMDakka]

That's because on SC1, +2 and +3 has the same requirements for Terran (Science Facility) and Protoss (Templar Archives for ground and Fleet beacon for air), while Zerg is tiered by Hatch/Lair/Hive for +2 and +3

[@joelnikula3545]

"Am I in trouble" Hydralisk - yeah

[@lostmarble540]

Daggoth: Hi is there a project I can help you with today? Grant: I know more than you

[@anonnymousperson]

Hyped for the zerg campaign. I think reavers are going to be the boss monsters of each level.

[@inductivegrunt94]

Now that he's the Zerg, he's definitely not doing this deathless, especially with those Reavers.

[@sindrisuncatcher653]

SWARM!!! can't wait for the public release, this looks amazing.

[@RequiemRelentless]

In Starcraft 1, you unlocked the upgrades when you unlocked the tech building necessary to get those upgrades. Meaning, science facility gets you terran 3 for everything, lair gets you zerg 2 for everything, Hive gets you zerg 3 for everything, templar archive gets you protoss ground 3, and fleet beacon gets you protoss air 3. There is no additional unlock. So because you got the muta, you got the spire, and because you got the spire you got the lair, and because you got the lair you got the 2nd upgrade tier.

[@sebastianvroom7595]

I like how the reaver is nailed in middle of the way up, no running past this time mister Bond. Also that sc2 pathing on top if the long range does make the scarabs look kinda goofy, then they delete a chunk of your army like it was made out of wet toilet paper. You no longer feel the goofiness.

[@SrMorua]

8:54 gotta appreciate the fire reflection on the hydralisks

[@Saren-yc1rk]

Mass Recall Real Scale Reversed would be epic

[@LuminousLead]

22:22 That chrysalis looks almost like a Behelit

[@petrowegynyolc7108]

So the Amerigo will be played on a normal sized Science vessel with tiny ghosts running around?

[@hiei49]

Templar without uppgrades can only morph into archon. Hallu is a research as well lol

[@dragonhuman6484]

SC 1 has always been about getting your upgrades when unlocked tech wised terran need science facility for 2/3 zerg need lair/ hive for 2/3 protoss need templar archives for ground 2/3 and fleet beacon for 2/3 I do believe you can go straight to 1/1/3 for shields first mission although shields in sc1 was super expensive

[@michaelbarnard8529]

SC really messed up in overpowering the zerglings. They are supposed to be smaller than a unarmored human, and maybe a little more dangerous than a dog. The Hydroliscs were supposed to be the marine equivalent, with the zerglings just a meme unit. But they gave the zerglings about three times too much attack power, and they became the boring solution to every problem (as long as you didn’t mind a lot of them dying). I didn’t use them. I used sunken colonies offensively instead.

[@maca9095]

cant wait to the release and play my beauty and cute sc1 zerg in real scale

[@batbace1]

in base SC, the reaver scarab will travel to target location then explode. if they cannot find a path they will explode and not do any damage after about 5-10 seconds.

[@vaniellys]

That was one very hungry caterpillar

[@JaxonHaze1994]

Take care and yourself Grant!

[@dancwalsh]

Music guy here: I'm pretty sure the "Target It Down" song is just the lyrics to Thelonius Monk's Rythm-A-Ning

[@Kai-K]

MASS RECALL! IN REAL SCALE!!!

[@marshallgarey2913]

StarCraft 2 zerg may be lots a out vipers and infestors, but StarCraft 1 zerg has the actual most overpowered spellcaster, the defiler.

[@SylvisNuvara]

science vessel:

[@aname.whatdidyouexpect1877]

SC1 High Templars dont even have hallucination, you need to upgrade it

[@EMDakka]

nor psi storm. without any upgrades, the only thing HT's can do is archon merge.

[@vonriel1822]

19:39 No, Grant, you're _Zerging_ through things, not Terran!

[@Nekoyashiki-san]

Thanks for the fun! ^^

[@thevanky8311]

Feel better good sir o7

[@aggrospud7698]

Imagine if this kept broodwar mechanics and your control groups were limited to 12.

[@luckylarry71]

Daggot: Yo noob, left click on your drones and... (Player) Cerebrate: Bro ffs, like I know I know I was technically born yesterday, but the game is 25 years old. I know how to Zerg, bro

[@TheNobody1324]

Player: Uses last drone to make a building

[@SylvisNuvara]

@@TheNobody1324 "where'd you study tactics, Cerebrate?!"

[@bengineer8]

Feel better soon.

[@XupyprKZ]

Sunks having damage modifier for capships

[@goliath_online824]

12:24 Not such a fun fact, we East Europeans know what it feels like. During Communism you would have to wait about 10 years after buying a car to get it and apartments took a good 20 years.

[@eglewether5523]

Greetings I am Zaaaaaaaasz, I too am a good boy ... the best cerebrate ! :D

[@HuxtableK]

Hey Grant, have you considered playing the Homeworld series of RTS?

[@EMDakka]

esp since the remasters are going to be given away on egs this week

[@HuxtableK]

@@EMDakka Good point there.

[@Belegaren]

Mutas and Overlords are so big damn

[@l4unchp4dgaming38]

Ummm...so Reavers can't shoot up, so once you clear the anti air, a good muta ball will just dumpster any amount of reavers.

[@shikamaru123450]

Grant told Europeans I'm sorry you don't understand how unreasonable our colleges cost XD

[@sasharadchenko681]

I am wondering... If this is real scale, all the units' stats should be the same as they were in sc2 real scale, aren't they? It's like... Why current zergling should be good because it is good in sc1? Are the stats different in sc1 and sc2? Is there some explanation e.g. confederacy battlecruisers are different class from raynor's? Or they are just different because reasons? (This do relate to all the units, not just zerglings, protoss as well)

[@Jeikobu]

If they are different, you could argue that on the zerg front they evolve very quickly, and Kerrigan's swarm spent a while securing the space around Char between BW and WoL. I don't remember what class the confederacy uses for BCs, but I am pretty sure they are different classes. I think the Hyperion was relatively new by this point in time. I could be wrong but I'm sure someone more into the Lore could say more.

[@SylvisNuvara]

the overmind's swarm and kerrigan's swarm are very different in many ways, so strength differences between the two are not all that surprising- especially when you take into account the overmind is known for specialized warrior broods and this is the cerebrate guarding his greatest prize in millennia of existence.

[@voltaire9176]

Mind if I ask where I can get mass recall?

[@Tucher97]

Reavers are a problem, apparently they are high damage high maintanence, though if you are gonna use Zerglings a lot more then armor level 1 or 2 is ideal but not 3 unless you are flushed with resources.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

I feel like I'm the only person that has played the 2nd level for real xD I always used to destroy all the Toss before going for the objective...

[@MatthewBluefox]

Zergical Strike :)

[@nathanlikosar966]

Oh hey 11 minutes ago! This one's fresh.

[@domacleod]

I know you have extensive knowledge about starcraft, grant, but starcraft 1's zerg is about as much about spellcasters as sc2's zerg is. Defilers are absolutely great for ground push, Queens are even better and as self-defense they have an insta-kill versus bio, and you can even use them to take over terran command centers and build broodlings. (Infested terrans but they only explode in sc1 so they fill that role)

[@arsteel2388]

Is there a way to play 1v1 in this mod? I'd love to try to play against some of my friends and see what happens

[@danielebruni945]

Hi, sry i'd like to play this mass-recall but i don't find It from the discord. Where can i find It?

[@Seagull512]

Egression starts at 9:37

[@Marcara081]

The only thing I don't like about these real scale mods is they never get the size of Raynor's balls right.

[@randomperson-sc6ui]

can do a reversed series for starcraft 1 but you use sunks to "rush" the terran?

[@zacksimmons4146]

I've tried to install this mod several times, and it just won't work. Has anyone installed this *recently* with success, and could share the instructions they followed?

[@k0rf3on6]

All of this made me want to play Starcraft Mass Recall again, so I go into my files...and see that i uninstalled it some time ago. And don't remember how to reinstall it. Does anybody know how to install Starcraft Mass Recall?

[@manueldejesus7196]

I thought that mutas were avaiable later on the original starcraft.

[@JimRaynorRaider]

Nope, you get them here.

[@relogos]

Need more zerglings.

[@messnerconcepcion634]

Grant would you also do the "Belly of the Beast" Mission?

[@liden77]

college tuition? as a European i have never heard of that

[@smukarch]

I think your fav button is Z. Its zlot, zerglin, blink..

[@onyxthedark]

hallucinate people and make a certain pro player leave

[@Sathrus04]

Here so fast it doesn't even show up on the channel

[@vaniellys]

I also prefer SC1 Zerg over SC2's. Especially in campaign and coop, because they're too much focused on heroes, when Zerg are meant to b the swarm race.

[@ledgeexe1935]

Eeeeeeeyyyy

[@CombatMagic]

Hydras destroying capital ships is canonical, disappointingly. A group of hydras downed a damaged BC that tried to retreat and hide behind a hill. The hydras unburrowed and destroyed it. Blame the *worse* SC novel: Shadow of the Xel'Naga.

[@qqchan]

Zerg in SC2 dosen’t feel ”swarmy” at all, everything is more expansive and cont way more supply, hydra is 2 supply, ultra is like 100 supply…

[@GreasyDaddy]

Gigeyser

[@FiftyStates5]

College isn't even bad in the US... public is cheap af and easy to pay off. Leave the cities

[@karondanthy4119]

Day 10 of asking Grant to play Warzone 2100