Kingdom of Heaven review: Historical Inaccuracies and Accuracies: Part 1

[@skeletorrobo]

I'm not Christian but having read Gibbon's account of the crusades, I was annoyed at this film's portrayal of the Bishop of Jerusalem, being depicted as a selfish coward, whereas he was recorded as being one of the principal defenders of the Holy City.

[@notsocrates9529]

It left me feeling angry, especially at how they portrayed the Templars and Christians.

[@RubenMolles]

Dont be bothered by trivial things,it doesn't matter what the masses believe..u and God know wasup and that should be enough..

[@william6223]

​@@RubenMolles It matters. Truth matters. Why gaslight reality?

[@ghostjager8190]

​@RubenMolles it does matter, this kind of indifference has led to where thr world is today. Tolerance of evil is not good or just its just wrong. They have attack God, Family, church..

[@revengance4149]

you guys are way too sensitive. The movie never claimed to be a documentary, it even says so in the credits. What matters is the story it's trying to tell, and that story is not anti-christian only anti-fanatics. There are fanatics among the Muslims like the young man close to Saladin. At the time the movie came out (early 00's) it was much more common for Muslims to be demonized in media due to 9/11, which had been quite recent. King Balwin 4., the hospitaller, Tiberius, Godfrey and Sibylla are all portrayed as likeable characters and unlike Balian they are all most likely genuine believers. When Guy leads the army into the desert it is portrayed as a tragedy, not just because it leaves the people defenseless but also because of the agony it puts the soldiers through. The villain Reynald has plenty of water during this and even pours some of it on his shoulders, which is very wasteful in this case, while the men are dying of thirst and heat. So tell me again how the movie portrays the Templars and Christians @notsocrates9529! I'll tell you, it portrays them as people, some good others bad. Most people watching this movie won't even know the bishop was a real person. Those who learn history will know the real man. You guys sound like you only just learned what history-dramas are, or maybe you are just very easily offended over this stuff, which would make you snowflakes. Grow the hell up

[@DootDoot93]

Despite the inaccuracies that I'm now aware of, I enjoyed Kingdom of Heaven when I first watched it. It and the first Assassins Creed game were what sparked my fascination in the Crusades.

[@hrvad]

This is by far the most interesting and informative video I've watched today (and I've watched many). This completely shatters my Hollywood beliefs in the Middle Ages. I've heard some of those stuffy "that ain't historically correct" dudes before, but damn ... this runs deep! This is foundational to understanding our past and development of our civilization. Thank you all!

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

+hrvad Thank you for your astute comment my friend. Your insights are much appreciated! Glad you enjoyed the series!

[@chavrons1]

They were fairly well glorified. I had no idea they were so brutal.

[@chavrons1]

A lot of Kings in France were actually Dark. Could be Moor From the Spanish Civilization. Many of those were Dark but were converted to Christianity.

[@andythrust1]

chavrons1 A lot of Kings of France were "dark"? According to what sources? As for "Moors", they were never a race, that is another popular misconception. They were multiethnic and widely spread from India to Morocco. Some were Black African, but to the Europeans of the time, anyone with a dark tan was considered "Black" or "Swarthy". This is depicted in medieval art.

[@englishlady9797]

Kingdom of Heaven is pretty typical of Ridley Scott. Its a total misrepresentation of the European Middle Ages, and praises secularism. As someone who's seen a lot of his stuff, its a pretty common thread.

[@EvsEntps]

At least it wasn't as bad as The Last Duel which had some ridiculous armour in it.

[@automatic6216]

​@codiersklave to be fair... The Duellists was flipping awesome.

[@frauleinhohenzollern]

It's all of Hollywood. They are anti white, anti Christian, anti western civilization. Period. They hate us.

[@peterraab3411]

Terrible movie. Inaccurate as Hell.

[@John_on_the_mountain]

Dont worry he totally botched the Napoleon too

[@GrecoRoman123]

28:37 I always thought the black character in and among Crusaders from western Europe was strange, out of place, and highly unlikely. It struck me as an injection of modern day multiculturalism by the film makers, and not historically correct. It would have been nice to hear the historians comment on the likelihood of, to put it simply, a "black Crusader."

[@cuchulainn8529]

*****​ Riots will ensue, any Samurai movies or Asian historical themed movies, now need black actors cast too, because reasons.

[@Dragonlady66]

***** Now THAT would be 'cultural misappropriation' of course and completely wrong!

[@XmarcX92]

Cú Chulainn The irony of your comment, we all know hollywood love to whitewash every supposedly historical movies they have shit out.

[@XmarcX92]

Cú Chulainn What a weak strawman argument, you seriously think the US, which is a melting pot doesn't have that many diverse actors? Should I really entertain such ignorance??

[@ThePeacemaker848]

Well the party in the movie comes from Jerusalem - a crossroads where there was probably blacks. Also Spain had lots of blacks at this time.

[@MrFarnanonical]

If you're disappointed with Kingdom of Heaven I recommend reading Helena's historical novel trilogy on Balian of Ibelin. They really didn't need to butcher the story so much to make a compelling movie. This film just comes across as though it has an ahistorical agenda.

[@OneVoiceMore]

Knowledge vs. Propaganda. Good talk.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Thanks!

[@MrRobfullarton]

I did'nt take to that film at all. Make one where Richard the Lionheart is crushing Saladin's army at Arsuf or Jaffa!

[@tyronefarrell4016]

I just want to express my appreciation for you work and time to point out the differences between what the movie portrays and what history tells us through research.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Thanks! Your comment is great!

[@williamcooke5627]

One reason for the bare, bleak castle interiors is that modern producers of historical films want to do it on the cheap, compared to their counterparts in the 1950s and 60s. That is also why the armies are often unhistorically small: fewer extras to pay.

[@dashinvaine]

The portrayal of medieval Europe is quite Monty-Pythonesque, in this film, where you can tell who is the king because he's the only one without shit all over him.... Total travesty. Turning a historical Franco-Levantine aristocrat into a blacksmith from France seemed a bit strange anyway. It's like making a biopic of Winston Churchill and introducing him as an American motor mechanic. 'Exodus Gods and Kings' was worse, in terms of blatant historical screw-ups. They had Ramesses wearing a queen's headdress as a war helmet at the Battle of Kadesh! They had the New Kingdom Egyptians building royal pyramids, several millennia after the Pharaohs abandoned the custom. They had the battle of Qadesh taking place during the wrong reign, and they lots of regular cavalry as opposed to the chariot squadrons that the Egyptians preferred.

[@lampad4549]

i would like to see that version of Winston Churchill

[@BobSamson147]

I had finally watched this movie a week ago. I was very disappointed in the silly inaccuracies marring what could have been a good movie.

[@tteedghihh]

BobSamson147 Inaccuracies in movies is one thing, but I'm even seeing inaccuracies in so called "historical documentaries", like those created by the BBC. They impose historically inaccurate nonsense in the name of "integration" and "diversity". It's sort of like they believe western history, as an aspect of western culture, needs to die in order for the world to integrate more. I can't stand when political correctness attacks reality, whether it be scientific or historical.

[@lukemcinerny8220]

+журналист Couldn't agree more sir, especially when they white wash Islamic barbarity and portray Western Christian's as the "bad guy".

[@dragdragon23]

+Luke McInerny leftest Holly wood is in a fade and the is to make anything western look bad. there many more movies of all types and tv shows. Like the new battlestar Galatica series, is a western looking world that made slaves, they didn't even try to make it totally alien like the origional tv show did. Frankly! I am getting sick and tired of it!

[@lukemcinerny8220]

+dragdragon23 If you look a t Battlestar Galatica you see a lot of morman ideology due to it original authors, like the planet kobal(t) is according to morman theology the sun or planet in which god was once a man before he moved up the chain to god hood, utter nonsense of course but not many people know this about the morman faith most see it as a mainstream version of the Christian faith, their totally at odds mind you the Christian faith being a monotheistic faith where the morman religion is a pollytheistic one, a faith of a infinite number of gods totally alien from the Christian faith.

[@dragdragon23]

Luke McInerny very good point, and speaking of alien, is that part of the morman faith and creatures from space?

[@morrighanwermarn-arnburg7333]

One thing Hollywood always does, and they do it on purpose. They make a historic movie, the women will wear period dresses, but ones that show cleavage. They were so pius the women kept their hair covered, but breasts exposed? Any paintings from the time show their dresses came up above the breasts and even covered the lower neck. Some dresses had hoops in them to hide the shape of the woman under the dress. Hollywood will have the hooped dresses with the cleavage exposed. Also everyone is "hooking up" with everyone in every Hollywood historical movie.

[@emo7636]

I totally agree with you about the women's dresses and costumes. It's all done to make the visual effect more appealing.

[@Dougie_Schecter]

"Boobies"

[@jamespowell_km_kchs]

Great series on this movie! I’m no theologian, but I definitely know enough of the Faith to be dangerous . I disagree with your guest’s description of an indulgence. An indulgence is removal of the temporal punishment due to sin already forgiven in purgatory. It’s something done outside of the Sacrament of Penance. Correctly stated the Pope or a Bishop can grant one if certain requirements are met by the faithful. Also, Protestants accuse us Catholics of having a work’s focused salvation. I think Scott was using that line from Balian to show Balian is not catechised and to perpetuate the erroneous accusation we have a works based salvation theology.

[@zupergozer]

This movie had about twice the budget of Game of Thrones, they could have transformed this into a awesome series with politics and intrigue but no of course not, lets make Legolas defend Jerusalem

[@zupergozer]

***** Well I myself don't want the Christians to be portrayed in a positive light, or a negative light for that matter. Crusaders, Jihadists, they are all people and people do evil depraved things and good things. There were assholes and heroes on all sides of the conflict

[@zupergozer]

***** Well to be fair, at the time of the first crusade it was under control of Islam for about 300 years, imagine if someone suddenly calls a crusade on America because it technically belongs to the Native Americans. The crusaders did slaughter kids and women, so I'm cynical of the crusades as best. I think all those swords should have gone to spain and Asia Minor instead

[@zupergozer]

***** No Byzantium lost control over the Palestine and that part of the world centuries ago. And nobody in the Palestine identified themselves as Roman, Greek or whatever. So I would say that Byzantium had as much claim on the Palestine as Britain has on India

[@grayman7208]

***** "Islam and Christendom were pretty much coexisting in the Middle East" Not true, islime always treated Christians and Jews as second-class citizens.

[@grayman7208]

zupergozer Sorry, comparing crusaders to jihadists is just plain ignorant. Crusader's intent was to defend and free oppressed Christians. Jihadist's intent is to subjugate and kill non-muslims. No comparison, opposites in fact. Get your head out of the "politically correct" sand.

[@ian_b]

Just listening through this, I think what we have here (and to some extent from the two experts) is the Post-Reformation Protestant "Whiggish" view of Catholic Europe; backward, oppressed, corrupt, ungodly, etc. This seems to be the standard portrayal. It was only when some years ago I started studying Christian history myself that I came to believe that this is a very biased view. Here in Anglo countries, this anti-Catholic view is very powerful. I myself grew up accepting it without any question at all. The standard Catholic churchman is obese, swathed in crimson and has a prostitute in his bed, the people are mired in superstition, and everything is covered in sh*t, to echo Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Every large organisation is corrupt (look at modern government). There was certainly corruption in the Catholic Church, inevitably. But the interpretation for instance of Luther as an anti-corruption campaigner misses the point; the 95 Theses are a complaint by a fundamentalist that the Chuch is not pious enough and the sale of Indulgences is letting sinners off lightly. It seems to me we automatically see pre-Reformation Europe through the eyes of a zealous Protestant of the 17th century, or the like. The Catholics are always the bad guys; to the extent that such people would prefer to side with non-Christians than show any admiration for the Catholic Church from which, in the narrative, the Protestant saved Europe.

[@BobUikder-ig4uq]

The English are such hypocrites. Pretended to hate Catholicism but hated Protestantism so much they had to invite Charles II back to run the nation and being holidays and fun back 😂

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

In Sweden we have had bathhouses a long time. Right infront of our parlament in Stockholm they dug up a bathhouse and many other buildings from medieval times that had been hidden under ground for centuries, [swe - badhus]. Which became bastu which is the same as a Finnish Sauna. In the Icelandic movie "When the Raven Flies" (from 1986) them make peace by swetting together in "steaming tent", if I remember correctly. The move is a "Viking action" movie and I highly recommend that and the sequal "The Shadow of the Raven" (from 1988)

[@at-teclonetrooper2482]

It would be very interesting if you would you do a review on Arn the Knight Templar..

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Agreed!

[@toddlewis8715]

I found your comment about how castles and the attire of nobles and peasants are portrayed by contemporary Hollywood as drab, dull, dark and depressing interesting and correct. Back in the 30s, 40s, 50s and 60s Medieval films such as El Cid, Beckett, Lion in Winter, Robin Hood etc the castles and attire were bright, colorful and cheerful. Banners and heraldry abounded. What do you think changed in Hollywood to account for this change in portrayal? My theory is that during the period of The Code, backed by Catholic boycotts Hollywood was kept honest. When The Code was abolished this kind of bigoted work became acceptable.

[@Jewbear1884]

+Todd Lewis That, and it's cheaper to just buy brown and black material as opposed to bright red, yellow, green and other types of material. Plus it's at least partially due to some basic assumptions being made. People always associate the Dark Ages with barbarity and a lack of anything good going on.

[@lampad4549]

@@Jewbear1884 that and to give a bleaker feel for the story.

[@lampad4549]

Robin hood sure but how the hell is the lion in the winter cheerful all the peasants wore bleak and dirty clothing.

[@destry5250]

Scott needs to stick to sci-fi and stay away from bullshit historical revisionism . . .

[@D347H1NC4RN473]

I'd just like to correct something that came up in the analysis regarding indulgences. At 27:51 Paul is talking about plenary indulgences. I'm not sure how faithful a Catholic is, but his description is a little off. As a devout and learned Catholic, here's a better description: When a sin is committed, it is either mortal or venial. Mortal sin kills the life of grace within a man, fully detaching him from God. One cannot receive Holy Eucharist as a result. A venial sin damages, but does not destroy a man's relationship to God. (Evidence for this is in 1 John 5:16-18 for those interested). Anyway, to be reconciled to God (i.e. forgiven), one must confess all mortal sins in the Sacrament of Confession. This forgives all sin. However, one must make reparations for the sins committed. This is in the form of good works. Acts of Penance is one way of making reparations. Indulgences, however, are good works that remove the temporal punishment due to sin. Indulgenced acts are so commendable that the make up for past sins already forgiven. Plenary indulgences remove all punishment due for forgiven sins. Partial indulgences only partially. However, indulgences are useless unless one is in a state of grace (opposite of mortal sin). The conditions for receiving a plenary indulgence are as follows: 1) Confession on the day itself or within some days of the act 2) Eucharist on the day itself or within some days of the act 3) Prayer for the intention of the Pope. (one Pater and one Ave suffice) Indulgences can only be applied to oneself or the dead. If one has not confessed the sin in the Sacrament of Confession, the indulgence does not remove the temporal punishment due for that sin.

[@rogerpropes7129]

What if I covet my neighbor's Porsche? BTW Have you ever read the Bible?

[@sayat_nova]

@@rogerpropes7129 poverty is a virtue. we are should reject the pursuit of earthly riches as an end in itself, owning an opulent sportscar is not a virtue it is a flouting of material wealth and is not something to be admired or envious of, as monetary wealth is pretty clearly described in the bible as an obstacle to salvation if anything, certainly not a virtue nor should it serve as an object of envy. if you see no such issue with coveting your neighbors porsche, perhaps you are the one who should double check your bible.

[@tteedghihh]

[*EDIT: sorry, just got to the point where you also say this] Suicide within the Catholic church has also always been seen as one of the greatest sins one could commit. When one does it they can no longer be buried on consecrated ground (n.b. the opposite of what is done in the movie), and have condemned their soul. Their family would also then often refuse to even acknowledge their past existence, out of shame at even being associated with such an act so antithetical to their notion of existentialism.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

[@Jeremiah17v9]

I actually loved this film before my reversion & then extensive research on the topic. My attitude has since changed.

[@righ-naalba6715]

Just thought that it would be helpful if you pointed out that you are examining the extended edition of the film (just to avoid confusion).

[@grayman7208]

Righ-na Alba Either version is asinine leftist gibberish.

[@righ-naalba6715]

Agreed

[@ZapatistaRebel1917]

+Real Crusades History Do you have any videos on the real life assassins?

[@gussetma1945]

The indulgence does not forgive sin. An indulgence eliminates or reduces the temporal punishment due to sin. In another words the indulgence reduces the time the sinner must spend it Purgatory.

[@cj57romulus]

Blacksmiths, especially in a time of war or conflict, would have been busy turning out weapons, armor , etc. , depending on their specialty. There apprentices were highly skilled as well. They would be support during conflict, and not directly involved in combat.

[@suerayss]

Great video showing the inaccuracies and accuracies. I agree with all your comments but at same time Kingdom of Heaven is one of my favorite movies and in fact the movie kindled my interest in the crusades and research into the middle ages. I am also aware that hollywood is entertainment and its goals to entertain and hyperbolate is subserviant to any academic goals to portray history or be a primer for history. Once you accept that fact then one learns to compromise both expectations and hold back conclusions. I am from India and thanks to internet these days I am rediscovering my entire history all the way to claims as we in India are impoverished slaves of thousand years and our own endemic view that we are this godforsaken third world. Only now I realize that that never the case and one has to painfully and objectively piece together facts and fictions as noone is going to give us the correct objective history on a platter. That is why its important that these movies be made with full liberty to show what they want and your video is equally important that counters it with valid facts. Its the best way to educate people like me and I thank you for you this video from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. Keep up the good work.

[@62peppe62]

Black Nubian Christians fought against Saladin , so it may be possible that some of them joined the crusaders. Popular medieval representations of saint Morrice as a black worrior saint, like in the cathedral of Magdeburg or in the painting of Matthias Grünewald, may be also a reminder of balck christian knights fighting with the crusaders.

[@robertfreid2879]

+62peppe62. Really? I also heard that the Christian Europeans wanted to convert the Asian Mongols to Christianity so they can have a powerful alliance against the Islamic invaders. There were many Christian Mongols who actually sent volunteer troops to help the Crusaders (because there were Mongol groups that had actually already accepted Christianity, like the Naimens). Unfortunately, no formal alliance was ever formed...

[@utherlightbringer3868]

kingdom of cyprus tried to take back their holdings from mamluks in antioch while waited for help by mongols cause 1 general of mongols converted to christianity but mongols never came to help cause their own issues disease and such..

[@45calibermedic]

St. Maurice (if he was real) was an Egyptian in the 3rd Century AD. Medieval Europeans assumed that he was black (a possibility, but they did not know exactly what he looked like) because he was from Africa. Artists from the time naturally depicted him in the military gear of Medieval Europe, as they commonly did for many depictions of foreign people and earlier time periods. Here's another depiction of St. Maurice and the soldiers of his legion: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Maurice#/media/File:StMaurice2.jpg And one more: www.stgregoryoc.org/st-maurice/ As for the character in the movie, it is possible that a Black Christian warrior would accompany the European crusaders, though quite rare. A bit more likely would be some Black Christians fighting alongside the European Crusaders in-theater, though the kingdom of Nubia was generally kept by the enemy from linking up with the other Christian powers.

[@musashidanmcgrath]

The knight who wipes his hair is supposed to be German, but he's right out of Tacitus' Germania, and 1,000 years out of his time period. :D Also, just to point out that Fitz(from the Normans/Norsemen) was originally to denote 'son of', and didn't take on the meaning of 'bastard son of' until the 1600s(the term became so common that it was abolished to avoid confusion and had been revived centuries later)

[@darken2417]

Thank you very much, I have been waiting for the day that this, one of my favorite movies to be dissected for the truth.

[@RukDaWho]

Shame that this doesn't get as many views as that guy, 'History Buffs'. Maybe you should use a catchy classical number at the beginning. Great Job!

[@darken2417]

Anyone know of any historically accurate movies on the Crusades? Doubt there are any sadly.

[@markbrowne181]

I'm disappointed in the audio quality on this, but putting that aside very informative content.

[@chrismusix5669]

Is this the one where Legolas dies and then becomes a pirate?

[@OrkarIsberEstar]

you know a movie is full of shit when the debunking of its inaccuracies thakes 3 times the length of the movie....

[@YOSUP315]

We watched this movie in 10th grade history class. No one mentioned any inaccuracies, just talked about how evil Raynald was and how he'd just say "God wills it" to justify it.

[@laszu7137]

It's sad that today I would consider anti-european propaganda in this movie not so bad.

[@WHISKEYSHIZZLE]

From 3 years in the future: it only gets worse.

[@John_on_the_mountain]

@@WHISKEYSHIZZLEanother 3 years: Its even worse

[@tjanders]

Thank you for the painstaking approach with historical accuracy for this movie. You have accurately also depicted the anti-Christian and pro-Muslim sentiment in this film. I do not know if you are aware of the fact that this movie was tainted. By that I mean Ridley Scott was threatened and subsequently rewrote the script by the terrorist organization CAIR. Scott also allowed CAIR a pre-screening of the movie after rewrite. This appeasement by Scott in the face of recurring Muslim intimidation is disgusting.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Thanks for your excellent comment.

[@ThePeacemaker848]

wow, I knew the stupidity of the appeasement was around but I had no idea there was an actual organization like CAIR. And that Ridley had to directly appease them.

[@tjanders]

Yes its horrible...CAIR needs to be outlawed. CAIR has been coercing Hollywood ever since. There is a 5th column of muslim activists and internet trolls in the US.

[@tjanders]

Amestris pulled your flimsy covers....lol

[@tjanders]

Amestris listen fool I have documentation that Scott was threatened and CAIR was involved...and there is an increased effort since 2005. I say this not to you..but to others who may be listening to your nonsense.

[@RunaroundStar]

I wish her voice was more clear. Bad connection? Great commentary.

[@KiwiImpactSaint]

12th century Europe was warmer than the climate even today. It is very unlikely great poverty plague the land. The little ice age started by starting of 14th century, then follows famines and the black death.

[@musashidanmcgrath]

I actually stormed out of the cinema back in 2005 when this was released. I think I lasted about an hour before I'd had enough of the nonsense. The woman who I was with at that time probably knew what was coming as I'd also done the same during the film Troy. :D I've actually just watched it all the way through today(it was quite a challenge to get through), to remind me again of what pure nonsense it is, and in preparation for your series on this. Starting........................now.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

Side note, _in Svithod/Sweden we never had surfdom and slavery was banned in 1335._

[@nathanielrourke8886]

I really enjoy this review

[@titusaurelius4691]

Two questions if I may good Sir. Is there any truth to the stories about the Templars Instituting the first international banking system and monetary notes so that they could bank their gold in Europe to avoid the risks of traveling with the large amount of coin it might require and to pay for travel, food, lodging, etc? I heard somewhere that the deposit receipts they carried were an ancestor to our currency today because they contained a cipher to negate fraud at could be used like money at any major stop along the way for provisions and travel expenses. Also did England play a big role, or any at all in the first crusade? I was thinking that with the political turmoil in Britain in and around 1066 ad when William the Great crossed the channel from Normandy and took the throne. It seems like it's a hundred years or so before England fully incorporated Wales, but even then they were waring with France and the Scots for years to come. I'd like to know more about the political climate in Europe leading upto and prior to the first crusade, and how the continent was changed as a result... This is still an extremely informative video, even more so than what I was expecting. I was thinking you'd do a boring, direct point by point picking apart the historical inaccuracies. Instead I gained insight on the mindset of the "Crusader Class," if I may coin a term. It honestly never occured to me that there would be so many tradesmen and craftsmen among the knights, but now that I consider it I don't see the armies of Europe being able to get too far without, hunters. cooks, blacksmiths, armorers, doctors they called barbers unless I've been misinformed, and whatever their equivalent of veterinary technicians to care for the horses. Hell I can imagine every wealthy French and Brittish knight of high nobility taking a squire and an entourage to carry all the gear such a trip would imply. Over the last three days I've probably watched

[@DrJonathanGemmill]

Great review of "Kingdom of Heaven" - thank you ☺⛪.

[@chavrons1]

Norman Knights or Germanic Knights, all had Motto's. Latin "no one is a man who does not render the world better. "

[@ThePeacemaker848]

that's a good motto I'm gonna write that down on my bulletin board.

[@cj57romulus]

As an avid camper and fly fishing enthusiast, it's just common knowledge if you urinate in the stream, you go downstream from the camp. However behind a tree is even better. In 40+ years of fly fishing I can only think of 2 occasions where I urinated in the stream we were fishing.

[@BattleFlanky]

Hi Jay Stephen. Did you have raw audio of the background track. I really enjoy RCH theme/rift.

[@equsnarnd]

Stephan, your explication of 12th century Europe and its cultural and intellectual development is interesting. I've read that the main impetus for it was the result of the Crusaders returning from the East and that much of it is founded on knowledge and customs that they were introduced to there. What do you think of that?

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Glad you like the review. I would say that's incorrect. I've heard a lot of historians point out that that is an incorrect assessment.

[@equsnarnd]

Any clip or book recommendations for explicating the impetus and dynamics?

[@bambostarla6259]

Tbh I knew when starting this that the film wouldnt be a "documentary". I just watched it and I loved it! The actors , the story, the costumes :)

[@the4universes207]

Yeah, but the problem the public will be given fake views of our past

[@John_on_the_mountain]

The visuals are great, and so are most of the performances.

[@gh0s7walk3r]

a note about the quote in balian's shop. In one of the bonus features to the film it's mentioned the quote was made up by the producer.

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Could you do a review of Ironclad and also the movie of Martin Luther.

[@Polumetis]

24:15 If I remember correctly, Balian's mother was a married woman during Godfrey's affair with her. Maybe that's why he never publically acknowledged Balian.

[@OxAO]

From the video 10:15. "Using the kingdom of heaven as evidence." I call this cartoon physics mentality. "Fig-Newton's" first law of gravity, "Any body suspended in space will remain in space until made aware of its situation." I would love to see a poll done on how many people actually believe movies no matter how made up it is taken as fact. The key to making people believe is repetition the more times they hear the same non-sense the more they believe.

[@FROMROMEINFO]

Surprised that none of the scholars pointed out or questioned the legal legitimacy of Balian's cousin attempting to arrest him after he had joined the Crusaders in penance for his sins. Did not the many Papal bulls on the Crusades grant immunity from prosecution for ecclesiastical crimes such as killing priests.

[@rogerpropes7129]

The saddest part is that the impossibly handsome and beautiful O. Bloom and E. Green, and fine actors J. Irons and L. Neeson, were wasted in their prime in his little regarded movie, and now it's too late.

[@emo7636]

The one issue I have is the 'poor Thomas of Becket' line that was used here. 'Poor Thomas' was an absolute nuisance to Henry II in the end. Becket lived more richly than the king, in fact people often mistook him for King Henry because he was so richly dressed and attended. While I obviously believe Henry's motives for elevating Thomas to Archbishop were less than pure, Thomas took it to a whole other level and lived way above his means and his station. Almost as if he were a mini Pope in England.

[@redneckjack4750]

Where is part 2 and they have always tried to make the European look like a dope in movies set during the middle ages even in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves they do that

[@Handle1309]

Thank you for this valuable education.

[@EnoshII]

Kingdom of Heaven is Ridley Scotts 2h long apology to Hollywood for making Black Hawk Down

[@malainfluencia126]

EnoshII 3hr

[@heatrayzvideo3007]

I'm going to watch this film even if it's inaccurate, I'll watch all these videos first though, I don't mind spoilers. By the way what is the best crusade film?

[@Opinwood]

The comments here are disheartening. Where is the middle ground between acknowledging that the Director's Cut of the movie is deeply inaccurate, but the film itself in a vacuum is a fantastic historical epic? The DC of this movie is what introduced me to the era and got me interested in the time period. The vitriol is pretty upsetting. Oh well.

[@ButrzV2]

people expect hollywood to care about something besides looking good and making money. A deal they'll never ever make. I pretty well enjoyed it myself, but i do have to get on the Ridley Scott bashing train at least a little for the portrayal of middle-age Europe. Still it (mostly) doesn't take away from it being a good movie.

[@smallestmansmind]

I wonder if you can do another review like this for El Sid.

[@nellyboltram7553]

Awesome review thanks. Scott is literally and metaphorically a Tool!

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

+Nelly Boltram Thank you, and yes, indeed!

[@rudolphantler6309]

OMG Dudes I was really interested what you all had to say but it is torture to listen to these low quality microphones.

[@AlecFortescue]

I still love this film. :{

[@flipadip2712]

What's the deal with blasphemous slander regarding Richard the Lionheart on the part of board game designers!?

[@valmarsiglia]

Just one question regarding suicide: at what point did the western Church develop its concept of mortal sin as part of its official doctrine? Was it as early as the time period discussed here? I ask because I've noticed that in film and television, things get ascribed to the medieval Church that weren't actually doctrine or dogma till much later (eg the Immaculate Conception, Papal infallibility, clerical celibacy, etc). Really fascinating series, thanks for the time and effort you've put into these!

[@oolooo]

The weapon discussion has some inaccuracies .

[@TerryReedMiss]

I thought it was mostly boring! It could've been done in less time, with more dialogue and much more historical accuracy. What a waste of talent and time. Their talent and my time!

[@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014]

25:40, I thought the prefix "Fitz" only meant "Son of..." in Norman french

[@Terenin]

Seeing as I can't recall even half of this, it would seem that I have seen the 'standard' version and you are commenting on an extended special edition, right?

[@EvangelistNickGarrett]

When the Dr. References King Baldwin I is she referring to Godfrey's youngest brother that ruled eventually in Edessa? If not can you please differentiate the baldwins? I understand Baldwin IV ruled in Jerusalem.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

King Baldwin I of Jerusalem was Godfrey of Bouillon's younger brother, who was Count of Edessa prior to being crowned King of Jerusalem.

[@EvangelistNickGarrett]

Real Crusades History oh how great. Got it. Thank you. Your channel has opened my eyes to a great deal and I just think you're great. I will be donating to your work in the month of October. Thanks for what your doing.

[@chavrons1]

This is interesting. It's very uncanny that many Norman Barons etc. all seem to tie in with each other and are all related in some form or other. I was surprised with the Charlemagne connection. "Ida of Lorraine was the daughter of Godfrey II, Duke of Lorraine, said to be descended in the female line from Charlemagne, whose brother became pope Stephen IX. She was the second wife of Count Eustace II of Boulogne, with whom she had three sons, Eustace III, Godfrey of Bouillon, and Baldwin. Eustace inherited Boulogne; Godfrey became duke of Lorraine and one of the nine worthies; and Baldwin became first king of Jerusalem. Both Godfrey and Baldwin were leaders in the first crusade, and Godfrey appears in the cross of the crusaders in Dante’s paradise, canto 18. Ida’s brother, Godfrey, was married to Matilda of Tuscany. "

[@carlos89784]

People stopped using shields with the heavy armors introduction. Check Metraton (to everone that reads my comment) youtube channel. He's great! Italian guy but speaks very well english.

[@RaderizDorret]

Except full plate was not even developed until the 15th Century and wasn't common until even later. In the time frame where this movie takes place (12th Century) , shields were still in heavy use (and later as well since not everyone could afford plate armor). since what plate armor was around didn't offer full coverage.

[@carlos89784]

RaderizDorret Thanks for the correction. Will check it

[@fuzzybunnyqp320]

robin hood could be seen as a followup to KOH.

[@Bill87762]

Thanks for this- one of my favorite movies but also extreme fiction!

[@b.delacroix7592]

...but a high guard is a legitimate guard.

[@lichlord9838]

Which version of the movie are you watching? I LOVE this movie (not for accuracy, mind) but already half the scenes you are talking about are not in the DVD I have.

[@vitorjanela2782]

its probably the directors cut. it´s much better thant the first version. the studio cut a tone of important scenes Ridley wanted in so the directors cut ads a bunch of scenes

[@LordWilliam100]

Odo the knight that wipes his mouth with his hair was German or Nordic wasnt he?

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

German or more correct from the Teutonic Order but played by a Finlander.

[@VJBlues]

The sack of Constantinople by the Western Crusades is an example of the true reasons for the enterprise intentions. The Venetians, " the wolves under a sheep cloth " of the Mediterranean did mastermind the tragedy. After that Byzantium will never be the same beacon of knowledge and light as before.

[@armoda1057]

if you haven't seen the directors cut, its a must.

[@nmjjmn663]

They're watching the directors cut, and it still sucks.

[@Lawiah0]

Defense of religious faith has demonstrated throughout history that the more unprovable a belief the more savagely men will fight to defend it.

[@Bemadding]

What about the situation that Godfrey and his men were ambushed by men serving his nephew, who was intent on murdering Godfrey so his father and he could claim Godfrey's land and title? Did such betrayals happen? And in such a situation, if the defender overcame ambushers, would he still chivalrously allow ransom of captives? It's not exactly a chivalrous conflict to begin with.

[@甘明忠-u8m]

Great video - thanks. Would love it if you also did a video pointing out the inaccuracies in Terry Jone's documentary about the crusades.

[@21nickik]

Can people stop hatting on this movie? Its not a documentary. Thanks for your analysis, its a intresting format to teach history.

[@grayman7208]

It needs to be hated, because it sends a false message, implying that it is true. If it had a disclaimer in the opening credits explaining it is fictional dribble from the directors hollow head, you would have a point. But it does not.

[@InconsistentFlaw]

gray man ridley scott isn't actually to blame completely. the regular film version is nothing more than a blockbuster, which I was also dissapointed in. I recently watched the directors cut though, and I have to say it makes up for quite a lot. It seems the director was forced to cut quite a lot out, reducing the storyline to something fit for the masses, and obviously not what he had originally intended. Of course it's still not entirely or even largely historically acurate, but it does redeem itself quite a bit...

[@ThePeacemaker848]

Its an entertaining film. But the point of doing historical analysis of films is to analyze. And its important to do because people seem to believe films are accurate as the female commentator in this video said that she had a student site Kingdom of Heaven as her source.

[@ainanui]

GEEZ MANG, SUCH BAD AUDIO, i really want to watch and listen but the hissing and pops are making it hard.

[@HabboFinHands]

So, any good crusader movies to watch ?

[@utherlightbringer3868]

+Punpun God el cid

[@utherlightbringer3868]

+Punpun God but its about spanish inquisition and getting moors out from spain

[@thinplaces5382]

+Punpun God ARN

[@taoliu3949]

+Uther Lightbringer You mean the Reconquista? That's part of the Crusades too...... Crusades were not just about taking back the Holy Land. It was about taking back Christian lands and spreading Christianity.

[@utherlightbringer3868]

Tao Liu yeah

[@flipadip2712]

I know its not really accurate but I still liked it *gets trampled by cavalry*.

[@markg.7865]

Please do a historical accuracy of Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter............joke!

[@ThePeacemaker848]

....the beard is accurate. ....the axe is typical of that time period. ....the end.

[@bipolatelly9806]

...and all this happened during a grand solar minimum. The End.

[@TyranyFighterPatriot]

Lol true

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

Ben from Suspicious0bservers would be proud of you. 😃👍

[@takedeepshhh]

the magyars havent became hungarians, as the latter is just a name given to them by some europeans. magyars still call themselves magyars as ever.

[@abodkalaf1041]

is this 2015 version of history.

[@DionysianLovecraftian]

I found the film entertaining but it misrepresents medival perspects a lot and it isn't very accurate.

[@jakup-_-ledzeppelin2020]

Hey maan u are fantastic!!! Love it and im very interested

[@99jean88]

It's a shame that i can't hear the woman talking, too bad, i was enjoying the video

[@quarefremeruntgentes]

Great documentary, but if you have an opportunity, please give us an expose of the outrageous inaccuracies of Mel Gibson's "Braveheart."

[@richardthornton566]

You know this is what I was taught in college in conjunction with architectural history courses. In recent years, the United States and Europe have been bombarded with propaganda about the Muslims being a more advanced and civilized people at that time. However, if you find the real history of the region, you find that from the beginning of the Muslim era, it was non-stop war between competing factions - just what we are seeing today.

[@quarefremeruntgentes]

I think America and our allies could do more to encourage stability in the Islamic world. The internal strife of the Muslims during the Dark Ages/Middle Ages were sometimes waged between rival Arab factions, however, as Islam became a conquering power, various subjugated peoples--Persians, Kurds, Berbers, and various Caucasus natives enslaved in Egypt, who became "Mameluks" inevitably yearned for greater autonomy under the rule of Arab Muslims. It is likely that the overextension of the Arab Islamic empire cultivated a political environment inclined toward internal conflicts.

[@quarefremeruntgentes]

It would not be accurate, however, to say that European kings never had to confront threats to their power. The Dukes of Normandy were granted the rights their territories in N. France in exchange for swearing the feudal oath of fealty to the French King, and for the conversion of their leaders to Catholicism, the acceptance of missionaries, etc. Later, rebellious vassals, including some Norman-English kings, Angevins, Burgundians, and others, fought many rebellions against [edit] Capetian rule; nevertheless, the Capetian/Bourbon monarchs managed to increase their power during the Rennaisance.

[@quarefremeruntgentes]

The culture of Medieval Europe still seems to have been resistant to the kinds of outright coups, and the assassinations, that plagued the Byzantines and Muslims. Religion might have played some role in this. The first missionary to the Franks, St. Remi, made gradiose prophesies about the future and destiny of the Kingdom of France. The French believed that the rite of annointing a new king bestowed miraculous powers on the new monarch--at least for a temporary period. The role of Medieval Kings probably had some other cult aspects besides this.

[@quarefremeruntgentes]

Re: "It is likely that the overextension of the Arab Islamic empire cultivated a political environment inclined to internal conflicts..." We seem to see the same fractious process happening with the greatest conquerors of all time, the Mongols, however, the Mongol Empire did not have any firm religious basis that might have counterbalanced the tendencies towards internal divisions and conflicts.

[@cangrejo5238]

Great.

[@NoxLegend1]

Mic is super bad

[@mamunmirdha439]

good

[@CptPipebeard]

Wait, the black guy was supposed to be a Muslim? I always thought he was either a Beta Israeli or Ethiopian.

[@thecrossexaminer3678]

Crusades!

[@tiktokfinds8846]

Orlando Bloom was a poor casting choice

[@TyranyFighterPatriot]

Agreed at least for this piece