Buried Alive: the Nutty Putty Cave Incident

In November 2009, a family trip down to the Nutty Putty caves turned into a hellish nightmare, causing one of the most unusual and arguably terrifying deaths in caving history, leading to the Nutty Putty caves being sealed shut forever.
This is the story of the Nutty Putty Cave incident.
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[@bontki9318]

I'm not afraid of death, I'm afraid of such a death.

[@DetectiveRaven]

​@@leonskum6864According to his family members, he didn't realize it was the wrong one.

[@deathclock0652]

Yea It was not intended​@@DetectiveRaven

[@jarlwhiterun7478]

Who isn't afraid of death? I'd like to see you take a polygraph and say you aren't scared to perish, literally the number 1 thing humans actively avoid above anything else.

[@jamesw.t.9591]

I'm afraid of suffering death.😢

[@randy2152]

Then don’t go caving 😂

[@CicKiz]

The fact that he remained so calm and had a smile on his face shows he would have been a great pediatric cardiologist

[@Hydepop19]

What?😂😂 so if you stay calm while being trapped in a cave, you can be a pediatric cardiologist

[@mjp6099]

@Gabe Some people can't pay attention!

[@MarmaladeSally]

Possibly the stupidest comment I’ve ever seen. This man was a complete idiot for going down there. The government DID know better. He got what he deserved.

[@jvnnyprod]

he's an idiot

[@nathangunapalan8057]

certainly, interview material

[@greggrobinson5116]

It took me almost 65 years to realize this, but unless the potential rewards are astronomical compared to the risks, you should never willingly go looking for trouble. Such an immediate relief to realize that I'd never again have to accept dares, gorge on hot peppers, go base jumping or swimming with sharks, or take up spelunking. All decisions I've never regretted.

[@iamskilldog4538]

Eating spicy food is relatively low risk lol

[@zehraciftci1402]

Why the hot peppers?

[@mccarthy5825]

Mr Robinson you are a wise and learned man and I hear you big time 👍 I love my Tabasco and home made hot sauce but I ain't going through tight rock birth canals, jumping off things, swimming with man eating animals etc. Sure I might get hit by lightning or something but I won't go looking for it! I wish you a safe and relaxing weekend 🥂 ☀ ✌️ From 🇮🇪

[@RubyBlueUwU]

Honestly I think this is less to do with age and more to do with understanding of the world and of life. I was exposed to a tragic loss very young and have always been extremely cautious compared to my peers, and was often the only one in a group of children who gave pause to think about long term consequences because I’d been forced to face them in a major way that they hadn’t. When you start really seeing the devastating effects of peoples poor choices and impulse control unfold, it really sinks in how unnecessary and unrewarding it all is.

[@sherryrunslate9678]

I’m 53 and some may argue I never really “lived” since I’ve not even had the slightest desire to look like an idiot coughing and frothing from my orifices after consuming a hot pepper, or and other deranged stunt from my personal vantage point. I was born with common sense and intelligence, which many are born with one or the other and others with neither. I know what my strengths, weaknesses, and where logic stand for myself. I’ve never been afraid to voice my feelings and hold my ground while others did XYZ. I took the footage from the ground or from a shoreline of the individuals doing what I would never do. My first priority was to protect myself to be able to care for my two daughters throughout their 0-18 (and luckily beyond) ages. I actually became a widow and single mother to our 2 teenage daughters at the age of 39. I always knew from an early age something was going to happen and it unfortunately did. He died in his sleep and not to ever be awakens in the morning. BTW…this was my biggest fear of our 20 years of marriage.

[@TheMorningDawnTMD]

This is scarier than a horror movie when you start to think how he must have felt.

[@calmdownnow20]

Omg...

[@Blakebyrd003]

Especially being upside down?! Have you ever been upside down? Even 30 secs- to a min is rough.

[@reannelopez3186]

@@Blakebyrd003 he was upside down for around 20 hours before he passed away. I can't even imagine what he felt as his body started to shut down..

[@Blakebyrd003]

@@reannelopez3186 man it was crazy I watched the video of them trying rescue him. One thing that’s pretty horrible is blood leaked into his lungs slowly over the 27 hours

[@messegeinarabbithole9113]

Fr I’m sitting here hoping and praying I don’t even have a DREAM(nightmare) about this.

[@maekoh]

One of my biggest fears is being claustrophobic for even longer than a couple minutes if I'm not in a safe environment. The fact that people willingly stick themselves in areas where they have to suck in their chest to fit, and crawl for miles for "fun" is frightening. Not to mention a pulse on the leg isn't gonna give you an accurate answer on whether or not he was still alive, especially in the position he was in. He quite possibly could've regained consciousness one last time to realize no one was helping him anymore.

[@bree7161]

just imagining being stuck there knowing your there forever…

[@GadisBaliLivesAbroad]

Less likely when you are positioned upside down for so long, in a confined narrow spaces,

[@blueberryoatmeal4009]

Narrator: "This story is not suitable for people with claustrophobia" Me: "That's okay, I don't have claustrophobia" Five minutes later... Me: "I have claustrophobia"

[@hellomimibanana]

That's exactly how I felt watching it. Just thinking about being stuck between the rock, I could almost feel it and smell it. Horrifying 😭

[@Ecl1ps3_XD]

I don't have claustrophobia either but I get extremely panicked when my arms are pinned/trapped and I can't move them. In fact I could be in some super tight spaces and be fine but if my arms are pinned I would hate it and start to panic alot

[@stonao]

Thats excatly how long I mange 5:05 and stop it!

[@daniyalshakeel7897]

I am claustrophobic, but I watched the entire vid. Of course with alarm bells ringing in my head

[@daniyalshakeel7897]

@@stonaoI am claustrophobic, but I watched the entire vid. Of course with alarm bells ringing in my head

[@Sukkulents_]

it’s just crazy to me to think that a cave labelled as ‘beginner’ would have holes that accessible yet that damning, still unexplored

[@helenel3569]

I don’t think that part of the cave was supposed to be for beginners, I think it was just the Big Slide, that’s why only the brothers went further down, since they thought they had the necessary skills to find the Birth Canal

[@Sired2Klaus]

Right like how tf can it be beginner level if when I take a wrong turn I DIE 💀

[@Muhmawmehmaw]

They filled it with concrete so no more money spent saving idiots.

[@JeromeProductions]

Could be intentional

[@datruff7263]

Right I'd hate to see the "Advanced" level caves 😮

[@DailyDoseOfInternet]

I had to take a break when watching this. This made me psychically ill. 10/10 video

[@gabemontalvo9227]

a recent daily dose comment in the wild with only 14 likes!??!?

[@Cerulean_azure15]

What is DDOI doin here? 😮

[@yae4599]

Nah whatt

[@chanchaljha8127]

I thought you watched only funny stuff for videos lol

[@VR.54]

found this comment, 21k comments deep, almost as deep as the cave John went through.

[@OregonPacifist]

I will never understand why anyone would want to squeeze their bodies into spaces inside the ground in the pitch black darkness.

[@Philip_Taylor]

It's white person stuff bro. No other group tends to do such activities. It's us. We do these things, for some reason...

[@serenawilliams3475]

@@Philip_Taylorthis is so true lol, I wonder why

[@Philip_Taylor]

@@serenawilliams3475 I have no idea, but it's the same reason why our ancestors went around the entire world making new countries and others did not. In Africa they have a well-meaning slang term for Caucasians: Mzungu. It means "Endless wanderer" and you will hear it when you're walking around there, thousands of miles from home...still endlessly wandering as your white self.

[@Finetextureglow]

Not gonna see no black or hispanic person do this... definitely white people😢

[@serenawilliams3475]

@@Philip_Taylor this is interesting, I’m Black British by the way - my roots are Caribbean

[@ouremberstillburninginside858]

I genuinely think phobias are not weaknesses, but rather a system in the brain that keeps you away from dangerous things that may put you in harms ways

[@williamwestmoreland4069]

For real, take a hint from a trillion years of mammalian genetic memory that's like "bro no"

[@lulu_TheWitchBoy]

Well it is a weakness, Bc phobias are exaggerated. Is normal to be scared going in caves, but if watching this video gives you panic attacks, then is a problem. Anxiety is normal to have, but over exaggerating isn’t good.

[@MunchkinsMotivation]

I believe so ! I know it's saved me more than a few times

[@JeffarryLounder]

@@lulu_TheWitchBoy True. But I'd rather have a panic attack watching this than being completely unafraid and getting myself killed in the future doing something like this. Phobias are excessive, but they're better than dying because you weren't afraid of something that is very clearly dangerous. From that perspective they are not a weakness.

[@Swishersweetcigarilo]

Idk, some people have phobias of wierd items like spoons or mop buckets.

[@crispyfilms3983]

The craziest part about caving is that you don’t even have to do it, but here we are

[@thsu8]

Why would a normal sized person ever do this? If you're an Asian teen Olympic gymnast, I still wouldn't do it, but that would at least make some sense.

[@0blbe1]

yeah I feel bad for the wife and kids bc this could have ben avoided, there are safer ways to have fun..

[@na3rial]

There’s a lot of extreme activities we don’t have to do, but people do anyway. Deep sea diving, skydiving, free climbing, F1 racing, black diamond skiing. Hell you could even argue American football is just as non necessary but here we are despite the high risk of death and concussion for a “regular” sport.

[@mstchiefa7892]

Like sky diving and cave diving and free climbing and bullet dodging

[@crispyfilms3983]

@@na3rial I understand that, and I partake in one of those as well (I race dirt bikes and ride harleys) the difference is that the assumed risk is much more digestible when considering 1. How good you are at said hobby, 2. The likelihood of injury/death, 3. How readily available help is if/when something goes wrong, and 4. If said hobby is worth the adrenaline given the risks. You could say that this hobby might’ve been worth the adrenaline and feeling from doing it, but to me personally the assumed risk is too high to make it justified. They also mentioned that the guy hadn’t been caving in years.

[@StephenIC]

It's crazy how differently wired some people are. Can't believe anyone would be okay with wriggling through a tiny passageway where you can't turn around.

[@angpham941]

And with no real reward on the other end. Like wth why do you go that far? for what

[@olivialewis5925]

I too am not one for caves. This story hangs onto you.

[@zachschwarz4625]

Yeah, I can’t imagine this being fun. Like how? It’s dark, wet, cold, cramped, uncomfortable, bugs, everywhere, spiders, water dripping on you. Chance of dying is high. The risk reward ratio is 100:0. High risk with absolutely zero reward. Oh I guess they can say to themselves and others “I crawled thru a cave!”

[@Paulo-ty9lp]

Not everyone has claustrophobia. I love tight spaces and love climbing in caves. Adventuring through the beautiful landscape of a cave that has been built upon by Mother Nature herself. You might not understand but other people have a really love and passion for this. Calling someone an idiot, weird, stupid and etc is just disrespectful. You’re obv ignorant to the fact that people have different hobbies that they enjoy. If you can’t seem to understand this simple concept than you have no matter in discussing this topic.

[@Jon-ei4st]

@@Paulo-ty9lp Literally no one in this comment thread did any sort of name calling you're crying about. Jesus Christ.

[@Fangenstein47]

He literally crawled into his own grave. Got to be the most horrific and tragic story I’ve ever heard.

[@BrenMurphy1]

😎💯🔥 RIP 💚💥🤕👁️

[@randomrazr]

they should drill down to his position and retireve his corpse and give him a proepr burial. his soul is now trapped down their inverted for an eterinity

[@thanosbustedinyourmum]

What a job he must have been.. Smoking hot girlfriend at home you could be home poking from behind instead you crawl into some hole in the fucking ground that goes nowhere but down to a narrow crevice where you then die

[@thanosbustedinyourmum]

@@randomrazr well In hindsight it's not really anybody else's problem that he went and did that... It's not like he was in a motorcycle accident and killed by a hit and run driver he literally crawled into a sketchy hole in the ground

[@randomrazr]

@@thanosbustedinyourmum i dunno if i would want to be inverted for an eterinity

[@luhole]

Literally my worst nightmare. You couldn’t have paid me to go down there, how anyone thought this was a fun idea is beyond me.

[@dukeschannel6342]

Beyond u & me..it’s like what about this is fun ? Maybe it’s a adrenaline thing but hell no

[@staylifted3806]

Every once in a while I have dreams that I’m stuck like this. It’s one of my biggest fears

[@griggboat3588]

Yeah only cave I wanna go in is the one where I can walk in with the big mouth , crawling ? I’m turning around

[@TheEastside661]

My thoughts exactly, what the hell is fun about this? I try not to judge people for their different tastes in hobbies but come on.

[@Kanders190]

I didn't think I had any major fears until I watched this video.

[@jacobcluff7994]

My dad was one of the lead rescuers on the Utah County Search and Rescue team that responded to Nutty Putty. My dad was one of the last people to talk to John alive. He seemed to come to terms that this was the end, and fell unconscious shortly after. After he became unresponsive the rescue efforts went from astronomically difficult to impossible. The rescuers left the cave after more hours of trying with anything they could, and shared in a prayer with the family. Every year on Thanksgiving weekend you can always catch my dad in some corner of the house by himself thinking about John. Rest in Peace John. It is because of you that my dad and many members of that Utah County team felt inspired to pay many thousands of dollars to go to the most advanced trench, collapsed, and cave rescues courses and schools that exist within the United States, and as a result, dozens of people were saved.

[@FootballJod]

Tf your dad was one of the rescuers?!

[@petchpoonpoon3596]

Rest in peace John

[@bitanmandal977]

I'm so proud of your dad, I always pray that he keeps saving many lives with proper safety of his own. He's a real superhero. If possible, tell your dad, someone said out on KZbin he's the real superhero

[@jovanmilojevic7972]

Your dad is a true hero!

[@RaenetteAono]

Yeah your Dad and all the rest of the rescuers were very much to be commended for the effort and risks they took. I think John knew he wasn't gonna make it cuz he was listening to his own body being a medical student.

[@jellybean7993]

Can we applaud the rescue team that put their lives at risk, knowing they had families of their own to save this one man. They are heroes honestly

[@jogman262]

That lady Susie especially.

[@wthrf_l]

Absolutely!

[@941sotaboy2]

That's their job. They signed up for this.

[@jellybean7993]

@@941sotaboy2 that individual CHOSE to go into that cave with no regard for his own safety or even thinking about his family. The rescuers CHOSE to save him because they have a heart. They didn't have to because they knew the risks yet they did. They signed up to jobs to save others lives not risk their own. Have a heart

[@TheyCallMeTouchpad]

@@jellybean7993 You can't expect a coward to understand bravery.

[@jenniturtleburger3708]

The people arguing that it should stay open and it’s their choice to risk their lives seem to be forgetting about the ones who will have to risk their own lives saving them or recovering their bodies.

[@spaghettireadybetty6138]

Exactly!

[@flxwercxrpse1871]

They are so selfish honestly

[@thisbigblacdingdang6135]

That part

[@joshswimmerly7110]

So we should close all roller coasters? And close all roads. And no more hiking because you might lost and need rescuing. Maybe we should close all caves. And mountains. No more planes cause they may crash and first responders may die trying to rescuing you. Hmmm no more dryers in homes because they cause thousands of fires a year. Wow your logic sucks. People need the freedom to explore and entertain themselves. Not only that but there are very few deaths like his. He was no longer a skinny kid. He was a 200 lb man who hasn't been in a cave in years and he made mistakes. We all shouldn't suffer because he died. Life is dangerous. We all will die. Even you. We can't just stop doing things because someone might get hurt. First responders KNOW what they do is dangerous. Saving people is a dangerous business. I did it for years and yet I wouldn't want everyone to not have access to caves and mountains and airplanes ect ect just because someone might get stuck and I might die trying to save them. Ffs are you joking?

[@lottedunnell4642]

This comment needs thousands more likes.

[@elias69420]

I hate how a cave associated with such a HORRIFYING death has a silly-ass name like Nutty Putty

[@Just...Peachy]

Right? Sounds like something from Pee-Wee's Playhouse haha

[@Arrow14860]

I feel as though the name only makes it that much more terrifying. Something perceived as so small, childish, unserious being responsible for an extremely cruel and nightmare-inducing death.

[@thatcasual574]

Cave and cave channel names are fucking insane. Alma's arm pit, cracker neck cave, angry cow cave, Notalotta cave are such dumb names for a such a dangerous activity

[@miniwaern]

You "...hate... Nutty Putty". OK? And?

[@elias69420]

@@miniwaern I guess that's what happens when you read only four words from a sentence and not the whole thing

[@FelicityAfton-mm9ld]

Does it creep anyone else out that the hole John got stuck in MADE HIS FEET ABLE TO TOUCH THE CEILING? It was perfectly sized to take him in, but never let him out again, with nowhere to go? It’s like that fissure’s sole purpose was to be someone’s grave, just big enough to hold one body, FOREVER.

[@cutesim99]

The Enigma of Amigara Fault

[@frogdales6917]

This is so creepy 😭😭😭

[@nimkal]

Alright dude calm down

[@mooselove]

@@cutesim99yesss someone said it

[@MissMiMiMilton]

And there’s thousands of them in these caves. What some people won’t say is the truth that there are probably hundreds of people in those caves that were never found. There’s no way of knowing how many people were swallowed by those caves.

[@ai-wf6ls]

The way some people were pushing for this cave to not close down when so many incidents had occurred is beyond me

[@seinfan9]

So it wasn't his fault that he deleted himself? It was everybody else's? Smartest man to ever live dies by the hands of others. Tragic.

[@chillenrules]

@@seinfan9 Place shouldnt have been open to the public.

[@darkabel16jose]

"It is up to us, as Americans, to decide what's best"

[@leitheoleu5451]

​@@chillenrulesI think at least they should be mandated to buy insurance if they want to go in. Rescue operations are expensive

[@Art2D2]

Although I hate the idea of being told by others what I can and cannot do, this does not extend to anything with a potential danger. If there's incidents happening with anything or even calls to end your sense of "fun", you should probably heed the warnings. People die all the time and you wouldn't think it will happen to you, but that's exactly why it most likely will.

[@kbear4208]

The fact that his body is still sealed alone down there in that dark tight tunnel that he died in is truly chilling to think of. You couldn’t pay me any amount of money to go there…

[@tgmidaz223]

Ayy 420 gang I hear u fuck nooo it's wayyy to risky😭😭😭😪

[@tasha3939]

So very sad

[@gdesiree29]

Wearing the same clothes too

[@laviiiii2694]

That is f* creepy, like imagine right now near you, while youre sitting on your phone/laptop, just a thousand miles away, theres the decaying body of john lying there just as you are reading this text, just imagine...

[@laviiiii2694]

*Josh

[@sidekickz2180]

Tragic story. It really is. But listen, guys: once you have a family, it's time to stop the risky stuff.

[@nickhall7995]

Right, he had a family to protect and provide for. This was a unnecessary risk

[@AsifKhan-hf9zy]

- getting stuck in a hole in the ground or - being married to the same woman with children for life or - having a divocrce attroney clean out the fruits of your lifetime worth of hard labor leaving you penniless these are tough choices to pick from, he made the right decicion for him one imagines......

[@stealthlead]

Family or not the risk vs reward is just not there for this kind of thing imo

[@jurateb.9794]

@@AsifKhan-hf9zy Does your father complain too about being married to your mom and stuck with children i.e. stuck with yourself? Poor your dad stuck with a child like you

[@thearchivist3610]

@@jurateb.9794😂

[@moshicoffee9473]

Bro, that is absolutely horrifying. That rescue team tried so hard, jeopardizing their lives in the process trying to save his. This is the most scariest thing I've ever heard. And me personally, what's scarier is the fact that till this day right now as we speak, HE'S STILL THERE IN THAT EXACT SPOT.

[@Professor__S]

Nutty putty sounds like an interesting Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavour

[@CathyKitson]

It\s like calling the Holocaust "Fluffy Bunny" or something.

[@yogabee2222]

Horrible, all of it, poor wife and kids too

[@victorwurtz9388]

C

[@gary-pietz4147]

you made a key point there They did risk their lives that's why these cabers need to be responsible financially as well as legally when they put people in this position

[@Simple5.0]

I’ve never been claustrophobic but this video makes me feel it. I can feel it in my chest and stomach. This has got to be the worst way to die. I can’t imagine the hell this must have been.

[@MydNyteRayne]

I'm claustrophobic.... I can't watch it. I can't handle enclosed spaces, I get claustrophobic if I'm in the shower too long

[@betsylaughlin8652]

Same, 1000%. I felt tingly just imaging this. It’s the definition of worst case scenario in my opinion.

[@Simple5.0]

@@betsylaughlin8652 oh no it could get worse. Water could be slowly filling the cave.

[@pspk70]

@@Simple5.0 Absolute nightmare !

[@walkingtree2486]

I'm opposite of claustrophobic, i love small spaces where I can squeeze in, but I don't know how crawling in a cave is thrilling, I'd be more scared about random bugs or snakes/bats

[@hanslanda58]

The fact that this cave was labeled as a “ beginners cave “ can only make me wonder what a non beginner cave looks like . This man was doomed because of this as well .

[@ra3i.alalia]

Okey all right we heard you. Are you in the well right now

[@four4four636]

@@ra3i.alalia wat

[@aarondavis8943]

The spelunker's ranking system needs a bit of reworking, apparently.

[@doeterniettoe4395]

Well it was most probably. But if you followed the sotry they did say he went into undiscoverd area because he read the map wrongly. So blaming the idea that this is not a bigginers cave is just stupid. Also he had no experience even tho that was required. I am not saying i dont feel sorry for him, but blaming the title of the cave is just stupid.

[@smackedinthejaw]

@dogs aren't dangerous Or that cave from the movie 'The Descent' which is 2 miles deep and full of savage Troglodytes who will eat you alive.

[@bobbyhorowitz9089]

The idea he is unknowingly squeezing down a crevice with nowhere to turn around. Then having that sinking feeling of knowing what he’s done. It gives me chills.

[@Estelle-f6s]

It must've been the most gut wrenching feeling knowing you'd be stuck to your death

[@My_Lacrimosa]

it gives me giggles talk about doing dumb shit. Climbing in your own grave? What was he thinking

[@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV.]

I have led a decent life of adventure, but even in my teens and early 20 s I would never do this kind of cave exploring....I get it being the first person ever to go into a tight chamber...but no way..

[@kamalahmed5057]

Don’t we all? You just described life itself. Remember the path you choose is extremely hard to come back from and you likely never will. Its a slippery slope

[@otpays8552]

same bro same. oh man im sweatin

[@FutureAbe]

If I was in that fucking situation I would say “look, don’t worry about hurting me, I don’t care if you have to drill holes through my ankles and tie me to a truck to drag me out, just get me THE HELL OUT”

[@mistaD72]

Kinda hard to do when you’re practically vertical upside down.

[@skorpiosavage9818]

nawl we finna leave bru we tried we finna go drink 🥃😅

[@Kementiri]

@@skorpiosavage9818 Idiot.

[@anthonyparillo7832]

Easy to say in a KZbin comment, a lot harder to do when you’re upside down in a tiny crevasse hundreds of feet underground

[@FutureAbe]

@@anthonyparillo7832 then I would think it

[@joshg2603]

I think the problem really started when they labelled it a “beginners cave”. It might have fooled people who weren’t educated or experienced enough yet.

[@doritozman5419]

exactly, nutty putty beginner cave? Surely I could handle that. This shit is like a double black diamond on the alps calling itself a bunny slope in new Hampshire !!!!!

[@mikeystrikes7203]

A beginners cave = a cave you can walk in and out of without bending over.

[@doritozman5419]

@@mikeystrikes7203 yeah that's dope but this buddy fucking died in this 'beginners' point so shove your devils advocate position up ya fucking arse

[@planetmotherfuckers]

No really… i think of a beginners cave the way i think of a hill as a beginners hike. You shouldn’t need too much gear or experience.

[@TripleR250]

John wasn't even a Beginner really...

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

It's frightening to know he's still down there, although not alive but that image of seeing legs poking out of a hole in mute silence is horrific.

[@justsain3236]

Yes, with his gear still on.

[@tahliamiles684]

@@justsain3236 the pic isn’t of him

[@femiosusa510]

His bones most likely fell down once all the meat on his bones decayed, thus freeing his legs.

[@msdadsfsx]

how can u declare he is not alive?

[@Swagoku1999]

​@@msdadsfsx are u serious right now bro

[@MegaMega95]

The fact they almost saved him, had eye contact with him, but then everything just had to get bad, is so sad and frustrating 😔

[@seadav0183]

The eye contact and time to converse is the hardest bit for me

[@theastonvillaseal585]

Be secure

[@theastonvillaseal585]

@@seadav0183it is, he was so collected with himself even in the most dire of times

[@lukaduka1001]

I am struggling to picture how they got eye contact if John was upside down. How is that possible?

[@theastonvillaseal585]

@@lukaduka1001 fr

[@quetsie0]

something about the fact he could see his rescuer at one point and thought he would at least get out eventually with that smile he had is especially gut wrenching

[@mrcritical6751]

That last glimmer of hope, before it all got snuffed out

[@blanketyblank5022]

The rescue team were frankly the bravest individuals I’ve ever heard of. Cannot even imagine attempting to ‘work’ using powertools in such an inhospitable cramped place

[@Stefanie2530]

Thank God the rescuer who was knocked unconscious trying to save John didn't die. Same goes for the EMT who went in to check his pulse as well as his own brother who tried to save him.

[@keelyluder6387]

Have you seen the rescue about the Thailand cave, with 12 children and 1 adult were trapped for 17 days. The rescue team had to dive for 2 and a half hours to get to them; then they had to sedate the children to dive them back! The rescue team was literally god sent

[@kayebarrun1568]

@@keelyluder6387 Sadly one of the rescuer/diver died.

[@ivantrlin8173]

I just can't understand that someone can be so passionate about getting into small caves... there are tons of different ways to get your adrenalin pumped (safer ways)...

[@kidwithskillls-5466]

@@Stefanie2530 ye honestly I think that’s what he’s thinking in heaven that thank god he was the only one and not his brother

[@chillvibes3031]

The fact that his body is still down there, upside down in that dark cave gives me goosebumps!! He’s been down there for 14 years. I’ve heard this story before and I knew he died but I never knew they couldn’t get his body out. This is honestly the very worst way to go, this story gave me chills.

[@Nunya-77]

Hes probably not upsode down anymore....once the decay starts, the ones would just fall

[@jasonloh4135]

@@Nunya-77 yea no shit genius

[@tofetta8253]

@@jasonloh4135 The original comment said that the body was upside down (he edited it), so shut up thanks.

[@Nunya-77]

@@jasonloh4135 you're a f****** dumb ass and you don't know how to read threads

[@Nunya-77]

@@tofetta8253 thank you first for being kind and then also for having reading

[@CanadianChiGuy23]

I explored these caves twice. My initial visit was with 6 friends. I got a little ridiculed for chickening out on a narrow passage and backed out while I still could. The 2nd time, I was the lead with one other friend (1st timer). Again, didn’t try anything too dangerous but I got lost trying to exit because you have to go up, then down, then up again like a horizontal S. So when you are looking for the exit shaft, your flashlight looks like it is hitting 360* or rock wall. It took me two hours of searching foot by foot, little passage by little passage before I found my way out. I swore off the caves forever after that.

[@dessire3113]

Jesuss omg

[@KristianH1986]

fucking hell, i cant imagine spending hours in a cave trying to find a way out, id be hyper ventilating.

[@CanadianChiGuy23]

@@KristianH1986 Let's just say I was not talking like myself once I finally got out, and yes, I had to get my breatihng back to normal. Probably took a good hour to shake it off.

[@KristianH1986]

@@CanadianChiGuy23 I’ve never been in a situation like that and I never want to be. Glad you lived to tell the tale.

[@BlurryPuzzle]

Thats why tie rope arround your waist while entering somewhere you dont know the way put. You can follow the rope atleast and dont suffocate spending your time in an unknown place 🥺

[@RushWorkingMan]

I used to think having a fear of heights and being severely claustrophobic was a curse but it’s really a blessing and I am totally content not engaging in risky or dangerous activities.

[@EdenMcCoy-rt9hp]

I have an extreme phobia of heights and small spaces so I am right there with you

[@Kementiri]

@@EdenMcCoy-rt9hp I didn't realize I had a fear of small spaces until I had my CT scan. I was inside a space the size of a coffin. NEVER AGAIN. I tried to cure my fear of heights by cliff diving once in my 20's and riding rollar coasters. It was never cured. I'm good with never doing anything risky ever again in my life.

[@anthonyparillo7832]

Tbf you don’t have to be severely claustrophobic to be freaked out by this lol but I get your point

[@steph3443]

this is quite possibly one of the most horrifying things i’ve ever heard of happening to someone

[@1971dave]

You obviously haven't seen or tasted my wife's cooking.

[@AutumnProcell]

my thoughts exactly oh my god

[@cancampus1]

ya this gave me intense anxiety, just horrible i cannot imagine

[@briansimpkins985]

It’s the worse nightmare possibly imaginable

[@Cookie52206]

@@Kfjdnej ur not searching up a chimpanzee eat Someone alive I heard of it but no way I would watch that

[@Gonkers20XX]

No horror game/movie/novel will ever scare me as much as this story. Even when it randomly comes in my head I get chills.

[@philipjoseph5099]

. Oh my god dude you're scaring the s*** out of me I'm only 2 minutes in

[@o0benji1820o]

You’re so right, horror movies have nothing on this and I’m a gory guru! 😮

[@243wayne1]

+Alice Cera- Agreed.

[@WellyCoaster]

It's disturbing and the narrators voice and story telling really heightens the horror as the documentry progresses. Poor John, RIP.

[@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV.]

I have led a decent life of adventure, but even in my teens and early 20 s I would never do this kind of cave exploring....I get it being the first person ever to go into a tight chamber...but no way..

[@Joshua-dx7zn]

This literally scares the crap out of me watching people do this. Being trapped in a hole in the ground is a huge fear of mine.

[@kingpremo2341]

Not sure if you knew, we all gonna end up there some day

[@Noname-ds4lo]

@@kingpremo2341 But not Alive

[@PsychoticCucumber]

I can absolutely relate to this. I am not claustrophobic, but seeing this makes me kinda shutter.

[@HumanSagaVault]

i bet his peers with him will now learn their lesson and think a thousand times first before doing a risky extreme adventure.🙃🙃

[@benpeterson1238]

"huge fear of MINE" I see what you did there.

[@-Always_Right-]

The problem with shit like this is when you get stuck then other people have to come risk their lives to save you..and for what?

[@bobbowie9350]

That's why so many die. Rescuers aren't going to go hard to save them. It's a show

[@miniwaern]

@@bobbowie9350 Drilling bolt holes above a dying man while working in a 20 inch wide tube isn't "going hard"?

[@ojon12389]

@@bobbowie9350 Just being in there is hard. Virtually no room and deep underground. But from what they show, this person probably would've been fine if he didn't dive downward in that fissure. If he didn't go that extra 5 feet, he wouldn't be upside down and the rescuers would have a good angle.

[@dlibby4979]

There is a similar incident with a diver getting caught in a cave, and died. The salvage crew went in after, and one diver made it to his body, but he perished as well.

[@anthonyparillo7832]

Fym for what, you could say that about any rescuer, shit happens sometimes you don’t just let people die. Like should we just not have firefighters bc some idiots leave their stove on?

[@CjsJustChilling]

Imagine having to live the rest of your life as the brother and two friends who challenged him to do this. The survivors guilt of letting him go first, and no one being smart enough to say let’s turn back.

[@sarahandersen5091]

yeah fr :/ it’s unfortunate too because he THOUGHT he was going to a different section of the cave; they all did. so his hope with sucking in his chest was that he would be able to reach the small room so he could turn back around. he didn’t know that he was in an entirely different area of the cave, and that there was no small room.

[@2kewl1231]

Stfu

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

But he did make his own decision. Knowing he had a wife and children home as well.

[@orangejjay]

He knew what he was getting in to. It was a choice he made and a dumb one. No one should feel guilt because an adult made a decision.

[@lavishlyvice]

@@orangejjay Absolutely, but survivor's guilt is not exactly an entirely rational emotion. It's very difficult to logic your way out of something like that when you're the one who's experiencing it.

[@autumncohen9862]

One of the saddest parts is that if the pulley system didn’t break at the last minute, he would’ve probably lived. He was so close to living. I can’t imagine what that felt like when he realized he wasn’t getting out

[@KevAng039]

I think the way he was stuck he wouldn’t have been able to get out because of how he was stuck and his legs don’t bend that way.

[@jamiecook7926]

There’s no scenario he could live. He was dead the moment he stuck

[@autumncohen9862]

@@jamiecook7926 No, I thought the moment they realized he wouldn't get out was after they had tried multiple attempts and it only buried him further. Like I said, the pulley was starting to work until it broke. It made him fall even deeper into the cave, and at that point it had become impossible.

[@rchltrrs]

I agree. I think that must have messed with everyone so much. Getting so close to rescue only to have it fail at the last second... I can't imagine

[@adammoore652]

He was long dead when he stuck and no way he could a stupid mistake on his behalf he was fucked

[@CerebroLDN]

Being one pull away from surviving must have been devastating when it failed

[@xxxnyb]

It would’ve failed on the next pull either way. No way this guy was getting out

[@mybossisdrunk]

​@xxx-jw4ur you don't get it.

[@xxxnyb]

⁠@@mybossisdrunkwhat don’t I get ? This guy was totally screwed

[@miko-wn4le]

@@xxxnybi think he’s talking about how the comment wasn’t saying it would work, they were just talking about how it must’ve been distressing to find out you are a pull away from being saved from such a situation, regardless of the reality of it working or not

[@snuffangelz]

@@xxxnybidk have some hope maybe? pessimists are the worst people to be around 😭

[@paulshannon9578]

A beautiful wife..a young daughter and a child on the way....my God why would you do that.

[@heliotikis]

She got remarried not long after. Sucks for him but she can move on

[@JoeDirtisawsome]

cuz he was dumb and selfish

[@Ofcourse619]

@@shara_bgsomeone else enjoying life the other underground. Sucks

[@BanjoPixelSnack]

@@heliotikis Yes but he will never see his children grow up. Why would he risk that? Baffles me.

[@rizikrizik1395]

@@heliotikisI went on her Facebook and she even had another kid. She’s super happily married

[@LiaM-om3ec]

He left a wife and 2 kids behind… the risk is just not worth the thrill. RIP.

[@turtleANDhare1]

Well he didn’t know the future and cave was considered for beginners. Anything can be dangerous if mistakes are made. It was just too unfortunate for him. Hopefully his family is at peace now.

[@brentwunderlich4634]

⁠@@turtleANDhare1 well he’s old enough to know not to risk his life like that. If you don’t know what ur getting into then you shouldn’t be doing it especially if he got a wife and kids

[@neelupetyt6520]

his wife probably remarried so she should be fine

[@aw2584]

​@@turtleANDhare1bruv HE HAD A WIFE AND KIDS AT HOME, so why the fuck is he getting into ANY CAVE at all "on a dare"? Similarly to, I don't know... not smoking crack just once "because a friend dared me to", seems like common sense doesnt it? was he like 12 or 26? I do believe people should be able to do whatever they want if they're not harming anyone but themselves (which isn't really true as he also destroyed lives of his family and friends for a shitty thrill), but I think that every goddamn cave like this, BEGINNER OR NOT, should have a sign that states "no help WHATSOEVER will be offered to anyone under any circumstances beyond the entrance of this cave", and not a single quid should be spent on helping these people, let alone risk other people's lives to do so. If you want to squeeze between rocks for fun then go ahead, but to waste money and risk rescuers safety to rescue them over and over again...

[@yangpaan453]

@@brentwunderlich4634 what does being old enough have to do with this situation? There are plenty of old professional cavers who would not have made this mistake. He just didnt do his research on the cave properly and made the wrong turn. Has nothing to do with risking your life. Risk is only involved in the event where information is not available and you're acting on chance, this was pure negligence.

[@knightartorias1825]

No decent person deserves to go like this. Yeah, it was a stupid mistake. I agree with all the comments saying it was a dumb risk. But I've made plenty of mistakes that could've killed me. I think everyone has. And to act superior because you were lucky and he wasn't is crap. I feel bad for him and his family.

[@salvobunny]

very well said

[@kanivaoh1915]

This! He was a bloody medical student if anybody is allowed to make mistakes and come out of them unscathed it was this guy!

[@elysabethpoodle6234]

It's nice to know some people have empathy and understanding like you obviously do. Its so easy to forget our mistakes and attack others for theirs but we're all human. I definitely agree with you.

[@bkpk4hisapplesauce]

based take

[@forman208]

Saying I never did anything as moronically reckless as this doesn't make me superior, it's just a fact.

[@jotarojoestar4951]

Damn he was a cardiologist as well so he knew exactly what was going on in his body whilst being upside-down that's tough man rip 🙏

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

No, he was a med student, ie d r uug dealer in training

[@backpack_hermit25]

A what??? What are you saying??/ What in the ever loving FUCK?@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969

[@abjectmadness1111]

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 “grr I believe in everything Facebook tells me agergegrgregr😈”

[@AlfimAlves]

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969lol

[@nickando1734]

@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969lay off the fox news sweetheart

[@BobbyEllaForever]

The only good thing about this horrific and disturbing incident, is that there are amazing people who as volunteers will drop anything at any time to come and help a stranger stuck in a cave.

[@hypernova9363]

The fact that he was so kind to the first rescuer who arrived was so heart warming for some reason, the other rescuers too

[@velinivanov607]

He was kind and hopefully person in till the end may GOD give him peace

[@nom3nnescio]

​@@velinivanov607what god? The one with elephant head?

[@hokagab]

@nom3nnescio the one that let him die.

[@nom3nnescio]

@@hokagab well it was his plan, so everything went as it was supposed to go, god plans everything right?

[@spectralnighttravel]

@velinivanov607 Yeah the God that watched as he suffered for hours and died and left his wife and child behind. What a nice God.

[@abbey1385]

Some doctors say claustrophobia is a condition, I say its a survival instinct the human body has!!

[@moseygosey]

Yeah honestly it’s just common sense. Although I think claustrophobia is more referring to those scared of generally small rooms or spaces like elevators, as well as tiny death caves.

[@abbey1385]

@@moseygosey exactly!! I don't get what person in their right mind would want to do this crap?? I could understand if they go in their and find diamonds or gold but just to squeeze through tight gaps?? Lol 😆. It's crazy. There is any amount of money that could get me to do this shit. I would die of a panic attack as soon as I go in. Lol 😆

[@nitakalialaha9471]

Phobias are when the fear isn't logical right?

[@gamerdog7939]

@@nitakalialaha9471 yeah but I feel claustrophobia to some extent can be illogical but being scared of tiny caves like this is quite logical if you think about it- but then again I might be a little weird to be scared of elevators -a claustrophobic person

[@itsheff3929]

All I know is I don’t see any fun in crawling around in a tight space and I know if I have to wiggle or anything to get further I’m not ducking with it.

[@spooky91088]

This is one of the most unsettling video I've ever watched. Felt claustophobic in my own home. Thank you for shining a light on this poor young man's end in such a respectful and somber way ❤

[@BB_arbie]

I can't believe any of it. Yes, one of the most terrifying incidents ever.

[@mikeydubbs8565]

Wait until you find out about Floyd Collins

[@choccymilk2372]

@@mikeydubbs8565yeah i was just thinking about him that one was crazy

[@mikeydubbs8565]

@@TheRepublicHasBeenLost You’re speaking of Christopher Boodram of the disaster that happened in Trinidad

[@mikeydubbs8565]

@@TheRepublicHasBeenLost Christopher actually attempted to jump back in the water to recuse his comrades, after scrambling out of literal Hell, but the govt prevented him from doing so, while his crewmates banged on the pipes for four days. The photographs of Christopher mourning over the empty caskets of his coworkers will haunt me forever

[@cnaizhen]

This is not meant to be an insult, but rather an observation of the culture. The objection at 2:10 "so we as American can decide for ourselves what is best" is such an American thing to say.

[@CoercedJab]

The freedom to explore caves if they so desire. Kinda based.

[@porscheTech914]

Yes, because us Americans don't believe in a nanny state.

[@cnaizhen]

@@porscheTech914 And this incident basically prove that sometimes even adult need nannies to tell them to not do silly things.

[@editandersson]

literally

[@abigailandino6251]

@@porscheTech914but if you call for help and someone shouts down that hole to you to GET YOURSELF OUT…..you call a lawyer. So 🤷‍♀️ You see how that works? Or are you the type that stays at your home after an evacuation has been issued to save your tv….and then put rescue teams in danger….. ? Hm? Merica?

[@anunohmouse7460]

You can tell when his wife showed up that there was not a single thought in her head that this could lead to his death or she wouldn't have brought her daughter along.

[@molybdomancer195]

It was never a place for a young child, whatever the outcome.

[@goawayimhigh]

@@molybdomancer195the cave was a totally fine place for children as it was marketed as, it was said to be a beginner cave, kids went on field trips there

[@alessiocece2098]

​@@molybdomancer195I don't agree! It's actually about her father! 🙄

[@molybdomancer195]

@@goawayimhigh I mean outside during the rescue. That’s a traumatic place and also lots of people rushing around, equipment etc

[@molybdomancer195]

@@alessiocece2098 the kid was very young. Far better to be kept away from the heightened emotion.

[@sarahweber356]

I simply cannot fathom even why people enter places like this. What a horrific way to die. This gives me such chills and makes me feel so sick..😢

[@riqi2]

@Ricky Smith it’s called empathy

[@OO-iy2fd]

Caving’s pretty fun

[@vincentreynolds951]

@@riqi2 it was at this moment Ricky realized he might be a sociopath

[@kipechawolfeortiz8791]

@Ricky Smith it's called empathy you dumb fucking oaf.

[@PhoeNEx10]

Watching the images of people on those super narrow passages makes me feel quite panicked and uneasy, I’m not even claustrophobic but damn seeing them alone bothers me so much.

[@Andromeda14161]

Every time I listen to this story, I feel this tiny sense of hope that perhaps it will end differently. But it never does.

[@alfriesmacdonalds5879]

U are another kind of crazy....

[@Andromeda14161]

@@alfriesmacdonalds5879 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

[@jashinperdomo8130]

@@alfriesmacdonalds5879 nah I do the same thing all the time I also do that when I watch tv

[@marcieconrad9413]

Same! I rewatched this story many times over the years and I always expect a different outcome. It's like rewatching Titanic...you always root for a better ending, no matter how many times you watch it.

[@popcornsaidfu8757]

IKR!!! I've watched this story on multiple channels an each time it's anxiety inducing. I wish I knew why we torture ourselves. 😳

[@nicolasadams2204]

They really gotta give this cave a new name. I can’t take the incident seriously calling it nutty putty 💀

[@gary-pietz4147]

When you think about it it actually makes sense because you gotta be nuts to go in there and be that crazy anyway it is for nut cases adrenaline nut cases

[@AshCupric]

Such a haunting story. Seeing the dangerous positions rescuers had to get into trying to rescue him was equally as terrifying. They really did jeopardize their lives trying to save him.

[@alcipta4920]

yeah dear, it’s exact opposite of cuddling with you

[@Adriel_HD]

😑 📸

[@whatt]

@@alcipta4920 ???

[@mantrasix]

@@alcipta4920 tf

[@rizzy8445]

@@alcipta4920 wierd guy

[@nicksharp9122]

This along with deep sea diving, have to be the most terrifying experiences imaginable.

[@SupportTheLittleGuy]

I’ve gone deep sea diving.. well not that deep. But at least you’re still able to move around under water. Being completely stuck is terrible

[@mntszu]

Some others do the same but with caves flooded! I saw another video where a rescuer lost his own life to trying to retrieve other scuba diver out.

[@charlottetaylor4471]

Torture is probably worse

[@theshape3431]

@@charlottetaylor4471 this literally is self torture tho

[@AndreasAsmr]

@@charlottetaylor4471 I can imagine this is torture as well. He prob knew he was stuck in there with no way out after that many hours

[@AamirTime]

Once you are married and have a family, there must be a limit to the risk you would take. Feeding your adrenaline or 'pushing yourself' against nature to prove something will not replace a husband or father if it goes wrong. Nature does not care about your background, personality or family. There must be a balance at some point so you can enjoy what you do without having to pay the ultimate price. Very sad for everyone involved.

[@CODA96]

Good comment

[@ryankelly2828]

Agreed

[@bootsandcats1501]

At some point I’m going sky diving. My kids can join me if they want. I take a bigger risk of dying the second I sit behind the steering wheel of a car.

[@elg7365]

@@bootsandcats1501 no you don't. This is a common stupid mistake.. Cars are billions, and every day millions are on the streets. So it is logical to have accidents, most are not deadly. If you have an accident on the air the propability of you dying is 100 percent. To compare driving with sky diving you must have the same amount of people sky diving each day. The issue is that there is no room for mistakes so you do special training. Also driving is an essential need, not a hobby

[@bootsandcats1501]

@@elg7365 Yes, I do. Look at the statistics.

[@greglivo]

What an anxiety inducing story this is. This may be the only time that I've been watching a video on KZbin and felt relief when an ad popped up.

[@MJMS88]

If this is a beginner's cave then I dread to think what a high level expert cave would be.

[@fraundakelmbrilpondaprost90]

The cave in The Descent.

[@jdsmith2670]

A high level cave would be similar but with water. If you're not careful. You can literally drown this way instead, but at least it's quicker

[@mazzy2121]

Yes, that is very strange that it is considered "beginner". I guess it's only beginner if you go in the right direction, but the wrong direction clearly isn't marked??

[@Bvetrayed]

A medium cave would have spider's and a hard cave would have Lions and in extreme difficulty it would have Aliens

[@NocturnalNugget2]

@@mazzy2121 there’s a map and people typically also realize when they can’t fit in a cave.

[@itsChrisUlmer]

People arguing against its closure don't seem to understand that if someone gets stuck, emergency personnel must now risk their lives to save that individual.

[@MinecraftMartin]

They don't care. It's all about them. "Me, me, me."

[@froglifes6829]

@john doe Then when someone else goes in the cave then what? Theyll get stuck because theres a dead body with flies and maggots blocking their way. Now you have 2 dead. Use your brain.

[@itsChrisUlmer]

@john doe I don’t see how that would be in the interest of the city to leave a death trap open to the public and all it takes is a waiver to get in. Liability issues aside, public safety is of greater importance to the city im sure.

[@MinecraftMartin]

@john doe Oh sure. So when people get stuck, everyone else just ignore the screams and pleading, enjoy your cave. Don't mind that stench of decay. Mind the bones. First responders will still be called, waiver or not.

[@MinecraftMartin]

@john doe Welcome to enjoying a shared society. If you're doing something that puts our shared resources, like first responders, at risk, then I get a say too.

[@williamlivingston146]

I'm definitely going to have nightmares tonight. Its crazy to think as a 12 year old, I had explored the EXACT same cave and even have pictures smiling, having a good time and never knowing exactly why my dad told us we couldn't go to the Nutty Putty anymore.

[@adrianpaulo7302]

Omg..dont ever go to caves again please

[@malta8458]

Sounds about white honestly..always wanting to explore these dangerous places, even bringing along their kids. No surprise there..

[@rudranshkefacts3256]

Are you saying truth oh my god i am in hysterics

[@igorrosales1799]

and why you didn't help John?

[@chillvibes3031]

@@adrianpaulo7302 nobody can go anymore, it’s blocked off .. his body is still in there

[@ryanlewis9121]

Zero sympathy, call me an ass. This kind of so-called "Adventure" is fucking stupid. I feel for his kids.

[@Guts2.01]

Bot 🤖

[@Agate_Island]

I’ve been in the Nutty Putty cave several times before it was closed due to this incident. I even made my way through the birth canal section but the area John attempted to go through is unfathomable. I can tell you having spent time in that cave that it’s disgusting, it’s unbearably hot, zero breeze and just stagnant bad smelling air and everywhere in the cave is kind of slimy. Getting stuck and passing the way he did is absolutely the worst nightmare I could imagine. Sad story for sure.

[@arabianwarrior7177]

What I don't understand is why is this fun? Squeezing through tight claustrophobic spaces just sounds like a bad way to spend a day.

[@mikkey_]

@@arabianwarrior7177 ikr i can never understand how some people enjoy that .

[@mikkey_]

@@KhaosSektor yeah... i think his body still remains there to this day...

[@FableCountry]

@@KhaosSektor no, his body is still there. Cave has been sealed off with concrete to prevent anymore cave divers inside. The cave is now his tomb

[@insideout277]

@@arabianwarrior7177 flirting with death makes you closer to the moment of now. When coming out of the dark side you see life in a different perspective. Contrasts.

[@brettwinstead]

I am so claustrophobic, I actually felt a mild panic attack and heavy breathing just watching the documentary about this. No joke. I wouldn't even want to put one foot in that cave. Poor guy. Worst death I could possibly imagine.

[@crocodile1313]

I am very claustrophobic too and totally feel what you're feeling. Now I need to get to sleep, but I'm freaked out that I will have nightmares about this. I need a drink, lol.

[@waldofaldo4615]

@@crocodile1313 same I stopped the video the paused for a bit then pressed play & was ok until I thought, “oh damn I’m gonna dream tonight that I’m stuck in a cave.”

[@erichoward6258]

It’s hard to watch .

[@maddieuberti3053]

bro same i’m like having an anxiety attack struggling to breathe and had to separate my arms and legs from touching each other

[@MrsV321]

My chest hurts from my anxiety watching this. Just the thought of crawling into a cave that narrow makes me feel nauseous.

[@mafiaishere4371]

The worst part of him is he's a medical student and he knows what happened to him while stuck in a cave

[@gregoralani]

Fuck.....

[@mstripling86]

i was just gonna say that. He as a medical student would have known exactly what was going on inside his body as it happened, which just would have made this even more horrifying of an experience than it was.

[@ricotrp_]

@@mstripling86 yeah this is exactly what i think

[@haleyshoom4934]

Noooooo

[@mega_blox44yt19]

To much blood went in the brain and legs went to sleep because no blood

[@gauravdandgaval204]

This is what i think When I resign from my job at Ships, "Once you have a family , it's time to stop risky stuff. Even while I realize the risks are low, there are still some. Eight years have passed since I left that position. And I'm delighted that I live with my family.

[@albiveizi2306]

you have a mother and father even before having a family of your own, so there is no justification whatsoever for engaging in such activities.

[@tentmaker2254]

job at Ships? What does that mean?

[@gary-pietz4147]

Well you're very thoughtful of others obviously some people aren't

[@grasshoper]

The fact that people still wanted the cave to be open even after a man died in one of the most horrific ways possible is unbelievable

[@cassiapeian]

and it would've been catastrophically stupid of authorities to keep it open. People would've absolutely gotten stuck trying to find his body

[@grasshoper]

@@cassiapeian Not to mention the smell of his decaying body

[@malcador]

​@@grasshoper yeah it's not a cave anymore, it's a grave.

[@LetsSufferTogether]

Well,,,, the dangerous part is clogged up so no one going that bit again, so its safe for the others right? Joke, sorry, saw the comment and thought of it and had to XD

[@jakenguyen1150]

But what about muh freedom!? Would somebody think about the children! Where would my child crawl to their death in a tight cave now

[@RamseyDewey]

I went to the Nutty Putty caves back in 2000. One of the girls I went with got stuck for a while. She managed to wriggle free eventually. That was terrifying enough. Also there were scorpions in there. I didn’t think I was claustrophobic before I went in there, but being trapped in tight crawl spaces with scorpions? Man, that’s something else. There’s a movie about John’s Story: The Final Descent. Such a sad story.

[@theactualjavening]

one turn for the worse could lead to the ladies death

[@harshityadavCamper]

I hope you stopped doing this now.

[@MarijuanaGuy]

Hi coach

[@deangreen1309]

The Last Descent ** .. The final descent comes up only as a Skyrim quest lol

[@zxyatiywariii8]

@Out Side I've been exploring caves all my life, and for me, it's fascinating to see structures and formations that are so ancient, and yet so rarely seen IRL. Especially wild caves, where we can sometimes even discover whole new passageways no one knew existed. However, I'm extremely small and flexible (this profile pic is me) compared to John, who was 6' and 200 pounds. John was used to exploring caves as a high school student, but this time he was a large adult, and I don't think he thought about how much a difference that makes. 😕

[@Nightweaver1]

There are three areas on Earth where recovering the remains of people who have died is simply too dangerous to attempt: The tops of tall mountains, inside of underwater caves, and inside of above-water caves. There are still explorers who died on Mount Everest in a seated position inside of an ice cave that mountaineers have to pass every time they climb, a reminder that, if you die up there, no one is coming to claim your body. I saw a video about a diver who could not be recovered after he got lost exploring an undersea cave. That cave is now his tomb. The Nutty Putty caves are now this man's tomb as well. Know your limits as a human, and realize that the Earth does not care if you suffocate, drown or freeze to death trying to explore parts of it.

[@jigglyjelli]

also the ocean

[@lougomes2912]

true

[@TyeArtisik]

💯

[@Trahzy]

Doesn't really matter anyways, you're dead.

[@jadegoodwill3388]

Never thought I see such a well written comment with a fluttershy profile pic

[@matthewsano6006]

Nutty Putty sounds like a brand of ball cream.

[@z483gk]

The fact that his wife talking to him while he already was unconscious, saying "I know you've been pushing so hard, for so long. Why don't you rest for a minute? Take a break. And then, push it again." Like damn...that's true love. She knew, deep inside, that she probably would never see him again. But she was with him to the end. Cheer him up, motivate to not give up. She said "I love you" without saying it. That's hard, man...

[@jimin6813]

I hope they actually said I love you to each other. Then on the other hand, it’s likely they didn’t because it could mean that one of them has become hopeless :( The only thing that is positive about this is the fact he was able to talk to his wife at all, whilst dying. Holy shit, this story is so sad

[@jamesclarke279]

@@jimin6813 the last descent if can handle it, watch it.

[@INSANITYX100]

She knew his ass was grass man

[@JaggedBird]

I'm impressed with how calm John was. Fair play to the rescue team. They never gave up on him and his wife

[@cambotech5556]

how are you impressed dude he had no choice when you upside down blood rushing to your head, you lost a lot of consciousness and how can you not stay calm lol

[@JaggedBird]

@@cambotech5556 I meant at the start when he realised mate. That's all. It's still terrifying but insane

[@nategreatgames78]

Well he was smart enough to know freaking out would make his situation worse, he could make him self more stuck or use up the limited oxygen he might have

[@JaggedBird]

@@nategreatgames78 my sentiments exactly

[@Mike-ps8rz]

I would’ve freaked out in the first 3 seconds but I also keep my goofy ass here on the surface

[@jjanon2371]

It was once legal to drive under the influence and when it was made illegal some people thought it was an infringement on individual freedom. These are the same types of people who insisted that a cave system, that was repeatedly proven to be dangerous, should stay open to public use, insisting that closing it is infringing on personal liberties. Safety laws and regulations exist for a reason, and they usually fall into place only after disaster happens. The fact that someone said they'd never heard of any dangerous incidents occurring in the cave before just proves that they did not research or think anywhere beyond their own selfish desires when addressing the issue of the closure.

[@blackk_rose_]

Agreed. It's also never just about yourself. In this case, several rescuers risked their lives and were injured in their attempts to save him and his child was left without a father. And so many innocents are killed by drunk drivers every year. Making risky choices can affect, hurt, and even kill the people around you (loved ones, rescuers, innocent bystanders), so of course not everyone should be given free reign all the time!

[@CoercedJab]

Idk about that bro 😂😂😂

[@wiLLgEEzY1]

Can you imagine the panic attack he must've had and couldn't move or do anything about it. Send chills through my body just thinking about it.

[@malta8458]

After a few rescue attempts, I'd have honestly just asked for a pistol to be thrown down to me, I'm going out in my own terms, mother nature can suck it.

[@mycatisromeo]

His panic attack? The one had had watching this was way worse!

[@wiLLgEEzY1]

@mycatisromeo you're right, mines was through the roof just watching. I wouldn't wish that on nobody.

[@mycatisromeo]

@@wiLLgEEzY1 Btw, if you want to see a pretty good movie that is scary about caving, check out "The Descent".

[@mycatisromeo]

@@wiLLgEEzY1 You know what's messed up too? How mangled and fucked up people get in car accidents, yet most of us drive around, some idiots textigng while driving, and oblivious to just how fucked up and mangled a bad car accident can make one. And it's something that we almost forget about... no need to even go into a cave to be scared shitless lol

[@vanesap2368]

I know he's long dead but the fact that he really wanted to get out but he never got to and never will is just so heartbreaking. He's still there, completely alone in that awful tunnel even after 14 years and will be there forever and never will be properly laid to rest. It's just a terrible way to go and I can't imagine how his family is feeling knowing all that. I'd probably never know peace if I was them.

[@wiLdchiLd2k]

He decided to kill his self... its not heartbreaking... its plain stupid.

[@wesleymaistry6278]

Dealing with death is one of the most important life skills you will have to learn on this Earth, once somebody close ceases to exist, you have to give yourself time to grieve , do what is necessary to get it out your system and move on because death is coming for us all .

[@jonfx6768]

@@wiLdchiLd2kHe made a mistake, he didn’t willingly kill himself. Sure, caving is a pretty dangerous and stupid hobby, but this was entirely an accident.

[@SoldierOfChristAlmighty]

I agree with every word you said OP

[@SoldierOfChristAlmighty]

​@wiLdchiLd2k shut up you satanic rat he made a wrong choice and went down the wrong tunnel. You heartless peasant

[@Cechronicles]

I truly believe one of the reasons why he stayed alive as long as he did is because of the faith of finally being rescued

[@cheshireket3132]

And he died anyways. In a cave. Trapped. And they couldn't even recover his body. Maybe he didn't pray hard enough

[@EzzyTheReal]

@@cheshireket3132 God was taking a nap, didn't hear his prayer.

[@bingusbinted]

God was like “fuck around and find out”, and he did find out.

[@alexzakalex3540]

i dont understand this meanness in the comments. ok? you dont believe? cool, it doesnt change the fact that either way simple faith is sometimes enough for humans to overcome limits and survive weirdly long

[@gabrieletedesco210]

@@alexzakalex3540simple pray don’t do nothing because god unfortunately doesn’t exist ,( this is my vision, I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think I am)

[@ILoveMyselPH-D]

Who keeps watching this and hoping the outcome is different? This happened with me with that movie The Perfect Storm.

[@mimii694]

I was expecting him to pass away anyway, but the fact his body still remains in the cave to this day stuck in the same place? God, I genuinely feel sick. I know the rescuers couldn’t recover his body at all, but that is somehow the most unsettling thing about this.

[@kevintjuhh070]

Yeah thats insane... they have to wait untill only his bones are left...

[@rickrozen2341]

A monument to the universe for the eternal stupidity of some humans.

[@XessiveGamer]

@@kevintjuhh070 this is happened back in 2009. At this point his body would be only bones. But they are not removing him. The filled and sealed the whole cave entrance with concrete. His bones will forever be in that cave

[@XessiveGamer]

@Mike Hunt Is Moist very true but there is also a plaque on the entrance for him symbolizing it’s a grave sight. I don’t think they would dig that up as long as the plaque is on it

[@blobster91]

It isnt uncommon actually. Mt everest has many bodies.

[@shade247]

My question is: why would anybody want to go in there willingly? Why do people want to do this? I don’t understand. There are way cooler things to explore.

[@ugaladigala]

exactly my thoughts. why cant people just fucking relax and stay home

[@bobdole7292]

@Rough Boy tell my gf that

[@cranberry411]

That's like getting without the KY jelly..

[@IIIIII-is2sv]

The adrenaline it’s just the same with all extreme sports and hobbies

[@iamworthy1302]

It's why I don't feel bad 🤷🏾

[@urbanaddiction7764]

That cave becoming his final resting place is terrifying and incredibly sad. I can’t imagine how his family felt getting that news.

[@malta8458]

I noticed on the tombstone, it said "loving husband, father, son and friend" but not brother, is this because the brother is the one who ultimately encouraged him to go deeper and made the situation worse when he tried to help him out, ultimately making him indirectly responsible for his brothers death.

[@artagle_14]

@@malta8458I think that if anyone were to go cave diving (I forgot the word) they should have at least ONE other person with them at ALL times. Going alone can cause confusion when one gets lost or in this case wound up getting stuck. I personally don't blame the brother for all this but they should've brought more people like in groups of two so that one can look after the other.

[@AlzMarioWolfe]

@@malta8458 Obituaries usually don’t prioritize listing sibling statuses.

[@timmyp6297]

@@malta8458 derrrrrfffffffffffff

[@Justwantedtosay........]

@@malta8458 I noticed that, the documentary I watched said he and that particular brother were very close, he also has 3 other brothers and 2 sisters. Very odd!

[@tulpamedia]

I feel like its extremely selfish for the cavers to fight to keep the cave open. They know how dangerous it is. Theyre basically saying that they want to open a possibility for someone elses death so that they can indulge in their hobby. There was obviously an extreme liability beforehand and everyone knew it. Amazing video. You guys always do such a great job and im always impressed by the quality!

[@atomichares]

to be fair, most folk who use the "we're americans, let us decide what's best!!" card are assholes, so not super surprising

[@jamesandrews8698]

​@@atomichares free will and personal responsibility and all that. dont wanna die in a cave? dont squeeze into a 10"x18" hole. play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[@Chris4748]

I thought being buried alive was the most horrific way to die, and that was being in a casket... The idea of dying compressed, upsidedown, and feeling your body breaking down and dying... my God... I'm heartbroken for him, and his family, they suffered his loss, he suffered an agonizing, and very painful death that lasted 28 hours... which you know was an eternity to him.

[@navmNavm-nc2yz]

He was so dumb to move continuously forward when he was realizing that it was becoming smaller n smaller he is only responsible for his death bcz no intelligent person will go thier if he feels uncomfortable in the first place but feeling really sad for him it was really a horrible death may almighty god give peace to that departed soul .

[@MattHartYT2]

​@@navmNavm-nc2yzyou don't sound too intelligent yourself buddy

[@navmNavm-nc2yz]

@@MattHartYT2 I don't give fuck about ur opinion as far as I'm sounding right.

[@Gunnin_yadown]

@@navmNavm-nc2yz why are you even trying to look smart in front of people while your discussing someone who is dead and telling them in the afterlife that they are dumb for what he did

[@ericswag8465]

​@@MattHartYT2but he is alive

[@claudiamcghin3419]

This gives me unbearable anxiety 😫 I can't even imagine the sheer terror of being trapped like that.

[@Jabermania]

It's just 19 hours

[@joleree1]

No doubt!!!!

[@ateandthrewuponyou5486]

@@Jabermania he died 💀

[@jamesbaker3687]

@@Jabermania you drunk or something? Wym just 19 hours? Even and 1h or 2 in that space would make Any one go crazy

[@maratonlegendelenemirei3352]

@@Jabermania Upside down, in a hellish cramped tunnel, pitch black deep under ground.

[@Beatrice642]

The horrifying fact is that they pulled him out and even saw his face full of hope...But for the last time.He behaved well and kept calm. Rest in peace

[@ricsouza5011]

its really sad

[@velinivanov607]

Exactly in his last moment's he stayed strong rest in peace

[@caseywilliams4145]

Play stupid games and you're going to win stupid prizes

[@Craig-dm5tw]

You'll get plenty of clicks too 👍

[@StoneCold2k57]

Many will say yo comment is harsh But sometimes the truth is harsh

[@DeeLish2000]

My husband is a Swiss spelunker. He took me in a cave as kind of a first date. NEVER again and he hasn't been in 6 years. I keep him well fed and 20 pounds heavier so he will never go into go a cave now!

[@candacycandacy7090]

😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dnakos4648]

Those 20 pounds will keep him out of more than just caves 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Dewey_Boondye420]

thats kinda fucked up..

[@dnakos4648]

@@Dewey_Boondye420 yep but true hey

[@dnakos4648]

@@Dewey_Boondye420 I think spelunking in general is fucked up

[@ADTRHOMESICK44]

My father was a High Angle/Confined space rescuer for 20 years and had to rescue people in these types of situations. I asked what went wrong with the rescue on this one? How come they couldn't get him out? He said there was many reason why it all went wrong, the local rescue team that arrived to help was to stubborn to realize they didnt know how to get him out and refused to call for outside help, They werent trained properly on these types of rescues, but his biggest answer was they were trying to do everything they can to not hurt him. And when I asked wouldnt you not want to hurt him either and he said, at first yes you do what you can but if all attempts fail then just rip out and worry about injuries later because at least he wont be in the hole anymore. He always told me remember little Jessica stuck in the well, they tried to pull her out safely but when they couldnt do that a pracademic just grabbed her leg and pulled her and yes he broker her leg when he did that but she is alive today.

[@MillieTheImp]

Wow

[@Arn-kg5tf]

No ropes no harness no gases detetector...we made speleogy in saint leu caves in france wich is v1 storage. sometimes we use a car to lift heavy metal piece with pulley always double and sometimes triple it ...limestone is the worst material i works....

[@Badficwriter]

Absolutely. The Tham Luang rescue of the Thailand soccer team children, decided to anaesthetize the children so they would not struggle while being transported out, because it was so dangerous, they could have killed rescuers and doomed the other children. Anaesthesia can be dangerous even in a hospital. Unfortunately, I am certain John Jones family would have sued if he had died in such an attempt.

[@theyrenuts2845]

I appreciate your comment as it includes considerations of the awful choices that sometimes are the best hope. I agree and am silenced and alone with my own thoughts about the ethical and emotional issues. Its a terrifying and sad but important topic and I value reading your contribution....However... please look again at the story you mentioned re baby Jessica. For I don't think there is much truth or value to the story we all heard of that 'rescue'. I'm not doubting yourself...but not all story tellers are truthful. Ot would be lovley if this channel perhaps did some research on the story. X

[@ifjfgvjfidifijf]

In this case they couldn’t even pull his corpse out. So there was no chance to pull him out at all, not because they didn’t want to hurt him

[@naferemix]

I didn’t think I had claustrophobia until I watched this. The idea of not being able to move is terrifying.

[@jonnyshanon2103]

I feel myself grasping for breath watching it. Stuck upside down below in the earth. Horrific!

[@cherifgrib]

Me too I felt a huge weight on my chest

[@kiranNiks]

I regretted clicking this. Open water with sharks was less terrifying.

[@sdriggs4952]

Same. I kept having to pause it and come back to it.

[@majestic1990]

In my early 20’s I used to have sleep paralysis most mornings for about 2-4 mins just before I woke up. I was terrified to go to sleep each night the feeling was that unbearable, I couldn’t even call for help my body would be completely paralysed. So I know how it feels to not be able to move at all and to think he went through that for 28 hours whilst upside down in a dark cave scares the shit outta me!

[@nikkidl13]

This is the first one of your videos I watched, and I instantly wanted to see more of them. I'm a fan of horror, true crime and mysteries and I must say, this is one of the most disturbing stories I've come across. The sheer idea of being trapped like that, upside down and unable to do anything, tons of other people getting themselves in danger to rescue you and non of it working... Even the hope and happy moments ending in disaster... I can't imagine the physical and mental pain he must have felt. And the guilt.... he must have felt so much guilt. I know I would have... Non of you videos have disappointed but this one still carries the crown for me personally.

[@CathyKitson]

If he had been the right way up, he would have survived.

[@gary-pietz4147]

This could make a real horror flick i'm su maybe they have I just haven't heard

[@CathyKitson]

@@gary-pietz4147 It'd be a movie that many of us could never bear to see. I'm a horror fan, see all kinds of things where people are torn apart, guts falling out, heads chopped off, everything. But this...this is true. And it was mental torture more than physical. No, I wouldn't be able to see it. I'm sure I'm not alone.

[@galaxeeydog2121]

The fact that the body is still in there is terrifying

[@brothir]

You'd hate a graveyard, where there are bodies underground all over.

[@Kalo953]

@@brothirtoxic af

[@Nimster87]

@@Kalo953 Funny as fuck more like.

[@JDG-vn4ti]

@@Kalo953more like stupid as fuck

[@GG-vq6ro]

Omg a body buried deep under ground. How terrifying 🙄

[@shastsle]

That's crazy that the cave became tighter as he went further and then went downwards. It's almost as if it was designed to be a death trap.

[@sagnorm1863]

Death trap? No creature ever dies there. Just really stupid humans. Even animals think in their brain "Small cave? Look dangerous! Me scared!"

[@bradolphh]

@@Megasaurusify I think death trap was an appropriate choice of words

[@ethanwelch6345]

@@Megasaurusify …. Wow lol. Is that not a potentially dangerous area??

[@SmilingMoos3]

@@Megasaurusify just shut up, thanks

[@resonatorneuronium5324]

@@Megasaurusify that’s a strange way of announcing that you’re dumb AF

[@Los150]

If this is a “beginner” cave, I don’t wanna know what expert level is.

[@Craig-dm5tw]

That would be Kim Kardashian's butthole...look how it fucked up Ye.

[@RyanSprkl]

I can't even begin to comprehend that someone actually experienced this. Just imagine the glimmer of hope John would have had each time the rescuers devised a new plan to get him out only for said plans to fail one by one and the soul crushing reality sinking in that maybe this will be the end. It's truly horrific. The fact his body will stay down there forever is haunting.

[@bobtnner]

It was John who was trapped, Josh was his brother.

[@RyanSprkl]

@@bobtnner thanks, corrected

[@tayluvofficial]

​@@RyanSprklSame. It's literally my nightmare

[@loopylocks7746]

For the life of me I will never understand how anybody can even think squeezing themselves into tight spaces knowing there’s a high possibility of suffocating or getting trapped is an exciting good idea is beyond me! This is one of the most horrific, painful and saddest deaths I’ve ever heard about. The pain he must of went through is unimaginable and yet people still continue to do these types of actinides. That cave will forever be his tomb and his family will never be able to lay him to rest. Absolute tragedy 🥲

[@CODA96]

Adrenaline is like a drug, it has to get more intense and extreme for you to feel something.

[@elg7365]

@@CODA96 idiots

[@elg7365]

Tragedy? No he was asking for it

[@loopylocks7746]

@@CODA96 Yes and unfortunately adrenaline seeking also comes with a death wish. Same with sky diving, and bungee jumping. There’s always a high risk of something going wrong

[@loopylocks7746]

@@elg7365 I would agree. Although he had been cave exploring previously he had never been to nutty putty so how he called himself experienced is beyond me

[@lbabytutorials4852]

Congratulations to the team TRYING to get this man out!! They were all willing to go where he was are heros!

[@joncoger9916]

Uuuuhhh... were they supposed to say "too bad" love how people say it's so incredibly amazing when someone does their job lol.

[@herack5928]

@@joncoger9916 you have to remember these guys "doing their job" are volunteers. They weren't getting paid fuck all to risk their lives attempting a rescue. Most people wouldn't even attempt such risks even if you paid them. So yes, the team deserve congratulations for their effort

[@Nimeleth]

@@joncoger9916 your stupidity amazes me. These were VOLUNTEERS. They actually risked their lives trying to save him.

[@randybobandy5538]

Only 7 people went down to help him.

[@Nimeleth]

@@randybobandy5538 how many did you want to go down? 7 people is alot considering the incredible risk they were taking

[@Yelluz]

Darwin Award.

[@zrvo]

I think John’s worst moment had to have been when he absolutely realized he couldn’t be saved. Realizing as everyone pulls away and leaves the cave to him by himself… It makes me sick to my stomach

[@Amp661]

I think he was dead at that point

[@zrvo]

@@Amp661 They seemingly halted the operation a few times due to complications, besides reassurance from the rescuers and his wife, I think it's safe to assume he was aware of the situation at some point.

[@Melvinnnnnnnn]

@@zrvo Yeah his mind maybe was like "Look at them all planning to move along while you end in here forever"

[@macwinter7101]

He went unconscious when he fell after their pulley system failed. After that, they could not get him to respond, after which point he shortly went into cardiac arrest and died. He probably knew that there was no chance of getting out before he went unconscious, but they never left him or stopped trying while he was still awake or alive. As in, he never actually experienced them leaving or abandoning him.

[@blairbailey6199]

They stayed with him to he died but yes it's a horrible feeling to think abd we never know if he possibly woke up again for even 5 mins by him self down there and finally died it's a very terrible way to go I probably would of begged for a needle to kill me quickly after they new he was completely fucked 😬 just a terrible thing that happened.

[@michaelhufnagel6179]

I can’t imagine what his brother was going through mentally knowing he could not save him

[@jaybandss5891]

Thinking about my brother .. i’d literally go crazy. This whole situation sucks :(

[@laspa0]

@@jaybandss5891 yeah, thinking of myself in this situation with my brother behind me is absolutely crazy. i cannot imagine the pain he feels to this day

[@Viquor]

Even just thinking about the ‘what if’s’. If the brother went first it could’ve been his life or would have have went the right direction.

[@kattatatatat6361]

Especially because his brother got him into the upside down position and egged him onto doing it in the first place. He probably feels so responsible for it

[@Svol09]

@@jaybandss5891 I'd like to say the same but my brother is not a fkin idiot so I don't need to think no about that.

[@roseyk7677]

That poor man, he took a wrong turn and it cost him his life, his poor wife trying to ease his fears, and the rescuers that risked their lives; a tragedy for all involved. How sad that he was left there, so close to life whilst so close to death; what an awful circumstance. God Bless his soul and his family. I was hoping for a more positive outcome.

[@freedom9160]

What a weird reply

[@ryanthomas2374]

"poor man" well any average person would tell you this is a bad idea... So i wouldnt say poor.

[@Bruh-Yes]

@@ryanthomas2374 just because you can be warned against something doenst mean that if you get in that position you are not worth sympathy such as your situation being sad or poor.

[@FreeMeal4You]

@@ryanthomas2374 oh come on now, having some sympathy cost nothing

[@hanguangjunnn]

@@ryanthomas2374 he did not realise the danger. he thought he was entering a generally navigable area. he simply made a wrong turn, and it cost him his life. apathy is never a flex, and emotional maturity is a sign of intelligence. you are clearly not.