Reality and the Philosophical Framing of the Truth | Dr. Stephen Hicks | EP 501

[@JordanBPeterson]

Dr. Stephen Hick’s courses “Postmodern Philosophy” and "Modern Philosophy" as well as my courses, are available at petersonacademy.com

[@aleynicol811]

❤

[@thomasdowe5274]

I'll remain 'Skeptical', thanks anyway, Jordan :)

[@jeandaugherty830]

intelligence is spread throughout the population . what will happen when the gatekeepers are disarmed ? ooooh the wailing and gnashing of teeth when the homespun auto-didacts and polymaths usurp and ridicule the powers that be 😊

[@mariaexarchou]

Truly congratulations! I was almost about to give up on our era! Thank you for your efforts and endurance to the true meaning of academia.

[@JohnMwikwabe-ud7ux]

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[@Dryrub808]

I found your channel at the beginning of my sobriety from meth and alcoholism cocaine, and violence 10ths ago! I was in and out of jail, homeless and totally strung out! I took your words to heart I even bought your book and I bought a bible! First book’s purchases of my life! I stayed sober 10 yrs now! I have 3 kids, I own and operate a business. I built a house and about to build another in the next couple years. I don’t get into fights anymore, I have bank accounts I even got my self a drivers license! Mahalo a nui loa! ( thank you very much)

[@pgranto64]

You didn’t find anything ,God found you,nice to hear from you.

[@Dryrub808]

Right!

[@Observer-g6m]

Way to go brother!

[@julie-annewood5411]

Congratulations brother. I wish you and those you love all the very best.

[@answermelove]

Congratulations! May God light your path forward with brilliance your heart will marvel at.

[@SamuelCBuhler]

Man, I am so thankful to live at a time where I can just sit, listen, and learn through these types of conversations. What a gift.

[@thululindesnothando5720]

Priceless.

[@justanotherhuman1865]

While still being young and an open mind

[@mylessalmon2569]

@@justanotherhuman1865 One does not have to be young to have an open mind.

[@stanleybaker6793]

I so enjoy episodes with a guest capable of challenging Dr. Peterson. Jordan tends to talk too much with many guests, but I've noticed that in cases such as this, he tends to listen very carefully! A clear illustration of Jordan's humility that is so often questioned.

[@gerrymenard7073]

Yes you’re so damn right

[@adnanbaarid]

Glad someone pointed this out! Episodes like this are great.

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

I don't know what you watched, but most of the challenge pushing against peterson was language based around hick's preference to not add obstacles to reality to philosophical concepts. Its good advice, but there wasn't really any true challenge against peterson's ideas. Just pushing to add greater clarification

[@JD..........]

Refreshing that Hicks just marches straight through his reflexive attempts to direct the conversation.

[@kingmidas430]

I love JP but he still talked a bit too much here. He would make a string of points and then interupt the guest who was responding to the first. Think about it like this. How often does a guest have to ask JP what he thinks? Almost never because JP will jump into the conversation before that can happen.

[@tylerhampton7192]

Every once in a while I have the urge just to hear two "adults" talk and engage. So refreshing. Hard to find these days. Thank you Jordan for your channel.

[@carlosmorales1944]

This level of conversations is so dangerously good for the mind that it some times takes years to complete process it. Love it!

[@thanksfernuthin]

Stephen Hicks is the man! I've learned a lot about Postmodernism and it's associated philosophies from him. It's helped me understand the societal cancer we're currently struggling against better.

[@jackmukaria386]

Thanks to jordan peterson am meeting this phenomenal human being @Stephen Hicks . I already love him.

[@wscottc60]

Understanding is the first step towards changing and curing this cancer eating away at our societies world wide.

[@maunderer-jx7gd]

​@wscottc60 ive been a clinical intellectual oncologist for 20 years and comments like this are a gift. Godbless you

[@archadeinteriors]

is that so, did you know postmodernism, is simply the "age of rethinking", it's also the current era, Stephen Hicks is a false teacher, villainizing philosophy

[@swipesomething]

I remember in 2016 when I first encountered Jordan Peterson on KZbin. I had been returning from Calgary to go back in Quebec and live at my parents, at 27 years old, trying to reconstruct my life bit by bit. I have been single all my life. When Peterson say that you have no right to claim you can restructure society if you can't even fix your own bedroom, I realised I couldn't love a woman if I couldn't even extend that courtesy towards myself. Today I have been with my girlfriend for 5 years, and I bought a house with her. Thank you Jordan for teaching me the hardest lesson of my life.

[@rivers118]

That's awesome, dude. I find that inspiring

[@RyanScheie-ep9rv]

May you discover new hurdles that call you to new adventures; may you toil and strive, fail, persevere then overcome them!

[@GThomas-qq6mp]

How did you find your gf, do i have to @swipesomething? 😉No seriously, what effort went into that?

[@Whodidthis12345]

Similar to me- if she’s honest and has a good heart, I’d ask her to marry me if I was you.

[@laurajean2603]

Wow! What a brilliant conversation. No doubt Dr. Hicks has many new fans as a result of this appearance. Thanks to both of you.

[@isaklytting5795]

I hope you are right. Maybe he'll become more well-known in his later years. I've seen him only 4-5 times over the past 2 years, but I find him extremely impressive as a thinker who is very confident, who can and does think for himself, and who is not afraid to explore the thoughts of his opponents.

[@anthonypetrella4401]

Finally, Stephen Hicks, I’ve been waiting for you to have him back on!

[@samsonsengoonzi8148]

I love professior Hicks. I must enrol in the PA just to hear him talk. Great brains. Him and Thomas Sowell are my intellectual heroes.

[@AndrewKimmons]

Two of my favorite people. This was a fun discussion, I truly wish I could be involved in it haha! Steven Hicks’ book are fantastic and easily digestible for the average person. He does a great job of simplifying things for the general public.

[@adamthemyth]

I've always admired Stephen's Hicks ability to tackle contentious topics in the most non-invidious way possible.

[@RyanScheie-ep9rv]

Yes. This man is not possessed by ideologies du-jour, and lacks ego and projections as he sits comfortably in his rationality while he converses, both in listening and in speech.

[@Ellis-x9c]

Dr Peterson's heart is such that no matter what he's talking about it always seems to make me feel better. He's right about cleaning your room

[@PsychomikeIV]

First time seeing Dr. Stephen Hicks and wow he is so eloquent in the way he speaks. I agree with Peterson that he brings thoughts and ideas that even Peterson is new to.

[@BabatundeDaniel]

Thank you, Dr. Jordan Peterson.

[@michalkratky5203]

I have seen both courses and they are great! One of the best intros into philosophy you can find

[@midwestgirl3298]

Dr Hicks is a fabulous lecturer, eloquent and charismatic I am so enjoying the Modern Philosophy class!!

[@ryanhoffman5477]

Yes! Wish he did more! Would love to hear him do a series of lectures on the best philosophers of the modern day.

[@My_King_KM]

Stephen's description of narratives as tools is a nod to pragmatic philosophy, very nice!

[@peterlynley]

Hicks explains ideas better than pretty much anyone else out there. Top level stuff.

[@Benjamin-fu5ij]

Wow, I was wondering what happened to Dr. Stephen Hicks. I remember his interviews illuminated a lot about the times we were living through 5-6 years ago. I'm so glad he's back. Thank you for your immense contributions, Dr. Hicks.

[@souxcasa]

Im Glad Stephen Hicks is getting more air time. He's been talking about this for longer than anyone and knows post modernist thought inside and out. If anyone can sway the conversation in a healthier direction it's him

[@Sponge247]

Dr Peterson is the Goat 🐸 Very dense discussion, would likely benefit from listening to this one again. Keep it up !

[@LEDB89]

I've probably consumed more Jordan Peterson content than content from any other human on the planet, and I can say it's a real relief when he is talking with someone who is disagreeable enough to thwart his infuriating interruptions.

[@Macklyn3232]

Yes Yes Yes. I love Dr. Petersen but can also admit that his interruptions often kill me inside. They so often come just as someone is on the verge of making an interesting point. Still love him though.

[@TheDarZone]

I don't consider the power to continue speaking through someone's interjections to be disagreeable; it's powerfull.

[@LEDB89]

@@TheDarZone I'm thinking in terms of how Peterson himself talks about personality traits. The polite and agreeable thing to do would be to cede to the other person as soon as they start talking. You have to be at least somewhat disagreeable to say implicitly, "Your interruption is rude and I will not allow you to do it." Either way, I find it creates a much better, more interesting conversation when guests do not let Peterson dominate, which I don't think he does maliciously, but rather he gets so excited about ideas that he can't restrain himself.

[@BigSkoom]

Have you checked out Jordan Peterson's maps of meaning and personality lectures on KZbin? Guessing maybe a couple times?

[@rohsouto]

The way you push us to profoundly question and analyse reality is something else. I always had an inquisitive nature but I think I lacked the propper tools to ask the right questions. I find myself with a lot of answers but also many more questions, wich is very exciting. Just a few months ago I was immersed in a fog of desperation and a dimmed version of reality. I had a very "logical" way of thinking but couldn't realise how limiting it was. The very equisitive nature I have, both brought me to this awful position and took me out of it. I feel ashamed for almost giving up, but that pales in comparison to how grateful I am to be alive now. I am slowly dipping my toes on the religious aspect of it all and where it fits in this new perception, but there certaily is much more room for exploration in me now. Thank you for your inifinite bravery and curiosity, and willingness to share all your steps towards discovery. Cheers from Brazil, professor. I'll be soon moving to your home country and I sure as hell am going to fight for the good cause over there.

[@bradknuppel2491]

I think they would need a semesters worth of conversation in order for JBP to address every challenge that Dr Hicks would make to his claims. Dr Hicks is a true philosopher and is therefore unable to skip any steps.

[@johnbrown4568]

Thank you for posting this fascinating conversation with Dr. Hicks and Dr. Peterson.

[@Vincenzo-ks3zl]

Jordan peterson has become the father of a fatherless generation and I'm so gratefull for all insights his word has given our youth ❤

[@CaptainSurfy]

For sure ❤️

[@azhassainia2492]

He became the biggest drug addict 😂 ,and the biggest liar of all time who claimed to stay awake for more than 20 day doubling the world's record , he's just good at fooling naïve people who don't know his game of using complicated words to appear like an intellectual man , it's just about how to make money .

[@juliaplaza7629]

We need part 2 of this discussion

[@callmewhoever]

This is about to be my favorite episode

[@rossco12]

Dr. Peterson is a gift to humanity! ❤

[@_AvgWellInformedCitizen]

I agree so much so, that if I were to create a “Council of Elders” as a governing body, Dr Peterson is a shoe-in to run every new policy through.

[@dripdropsdetroit1465]

💯🎯

[@tonydepalmas]

As well as every other human being..

[@LearnCompositionOnline]

@@tonydepalmasno, actually not. Many people are a danger to humanity

[@kirk.w.mclaren]

​@@tonydepalmas I agree that we each have the option to be a gift. Some people choose to diminish Humanity versus Elevate human thriving

[@jessemontano762]

i see Stephen Hicks, i click. fantastic philosopher

[@jjeKKell]

First came across Dr Hicks when I stumbled upon his 2006 documentary "Nietzsche and the Nazis," which then led me to his lectures on postmodernism. Little did I know then, I was already on my path to discovering Dr Peterson. Good stuff!

[@johnbrown4568]

Dr. Hicks is a top level philosopher as well as an outstanding teacher of a broad range of philosophical theories.

[@GThomas-qq6mp]

This was worth the watch. This needs more upvotes.

[@wscottc60]

Hi there and hello to the esteemed Mr. Jordan B Peterson. You are a key node for the intersection of Great and Critical Thinking. I wish that I could have a text of your podcasts because as I listen to your podcast I can “literally” feel my brain/mind expanding. Especially today because I have a head cold. But I have to Really fight to keep up. Both with the thoughts and ideas that are ‘exploding’ out but also the much higher level of vocabulary being used. Pause, rewind, play, pause, rewind, play all afternoon. But I never come away from your word feeling that I wish I could have that time back. Like I do with SO much of what passes for entertainment these days. Thank you for your hard work. Thank you that you made it a mission to help educate us poor slobs out here in the void. You are truly a beacon of light in the dark.

[@toplobster5374]

Wow, I discovered another gem Dr. Stephen Hicks through Dr. Peterson. So blessed😊

[@Venator1230]

Thank you both for this episode. And thank you, both professors for your courses at Peterson Academy! I have thoroughly enjoyed Dr. Hick's courses on postmodern philosophy, and modern philosophy. I have found Dr Peterson's lectures on The sermon on the Mount thought-provoking as much as his courses on Nietzsche.

[@AndrewMichaelsReacts]

In every stage of my education I haven’t been one to have good focus. The second philosophy is mentioned I’m hooked, this was great, thank you.

[@EricClay-oj2xl]

This was a great discussion! Can we get another one with Dr. Hicks and Dr. Peterson? 👍

Finally got to this. Its a good one. Thx for this convo! Also...slightly amusing to see Hicks not let JBP interrupt/derail him before clarifying various points.

[@gustavr2618]

How brilliant is he when it comes to coherently explain psychology, damnit!

[@lawrencefisher865]

Fabulous conversation. Worth a couple of listens as gets very deep. Great to see great minds working towards betterment. Thanks for the exemplar.

[@melvinbaloyi3825]

I always speak highly of men with such words. JP keep enlightening the masses, we need it

[@daminip]

Brilliant chat and what great timing. Thank you, truly.

[@LyndaAbdo-r1h]

Beautiful set and camera angle this time coupled with great intelligent conversation! You can't beat it, great work! I'm a big fan, always inspired!

[@georgianbalaklava]

Finally Dr. Hicks again. I'm sure it will be great

[@shivaebrahimi27]

I've been waiting for this conversation for years!

[@BalBurgh]

I may have to sign up for Peterson Academy just to get Dr. Hicks’ courses.

[@thululindesnothando5720]

😂

[@prod.richie]

I did at the beginning and I think it was worth it

[@tasmanianlord5269]

Hicks's voice is so soothing.

[@CaptainSurfy]

True and very level headed this exchange was top tier

[@ameyc2]

How absolutely refreshing welcome aboard sounds like a very exciting evolution and continuation of your wonderful career it's so wonderful to hear these old names. I'm an undergraduate bachelors philosophy, major from San Diego State University. I went on to use that foundation to go into a degree and masters degree in counseling. What a wonderful foundation it was for me to utilize the tools I needed to help individuals in crisis based on selflessness , and all the knowledge I gained through my philosophical background. I'm so excited that you are in the faculty. OK, I am updating my comment. This guy is the real deal Dr. Hicks thank you thank you for being true to your craft.

[@johnnytopgun6414]

Loving these camera angles. Looking forward to getting through whole video.

[@elektrochava]

Just be grateful you are not the one being placed in one of those chairs. Ouch

[@shannonbrown7433]

I first found Dr. Hicks several years ago when he wrote Nietze and the Nazis. Absolutely eye opening!

[@kirk.w.mclaren]

Thank you so much for sharing this conversation with us

[@annemarie9980]

This is a Great Conversation Thank You Both !🫶

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

21:07 an important clarification about subjectivity in the example of smacking a table 1:00:17 on the issue of language in the statement, “we see reality through a narrative” 1:33:35 about thinking of yourself as an individual for knowing the world, or a else becoming closer to chimps or even baboons

[@billbrown1353]

I really appreciated the PROFESSOR vs PROFESSOR combination here. Almost no one EVER says no to PETERSON in a way he is forced to acknowledge. But Peterson respects the dissent and tries to adjust himself and his opinion. He did this immediately and was not afraid to say, “THATS A GOOD OBJECTION”. WE NEED THIS LEVEL OF DISCOURSE IN AND AT ALL LEVELS OF HUMAN INTERACTION. I love the humility of both men. They speak as though Truth is ABOVE them. They speak with such a great respect for the PROCESS of coming to the truth.

[@GiffordWatkins]

The advent of the internet is new; great comment :)

[@autumnleaves2766]

A very enjoyable discussion on a very windy night here in England. Dr Hicks is an engaging speaker and his five Peterson Academy courses sound genuinely interesting. Dr Peterson was in great form as ever, and he was looking exceptionally smart in that dark teal suit and stylish tie. "We Who Wrestle With God" has been a joy to read so far (I'm up to page 336): the ideas are easy to grasp, carefully explained and with the usual references to a multitude of sources, which are all listed at the back. I've learned a great deal so far, it's a thought-provoking book and very uplifting too. My only criticism - and it is very minor one - is that Allen Lane publishers don't seem to have done a good job with the proof reading, lots of little errors or omissions that the proof reader hasn't spotted. That wasn't at all the case with the two 12 Rules For Life books. Hopefully Dr Peterson can tell them about this and subsequent printings will not contain so many "typos". But it's been a great read so far and I'd like to thank Dr Peterson for writing what we all hope will be another international bestseller.👍🎯

[@timpetrochilos1257]

One of the best episodes yet

[@LilaSilk]

Oh, hello Dr Hicks. I still remember your lecture in Melbourne Australia in 2021, really enjoyed it! Expecting a great conversation here! I ended up listening to this podcast twice, just to make sure I actually got to understand some of the discussed. Further it motivated me to enrol in Peterson's academy, due to this/DW conversation and because it was a good deal. I would have enrolled at the beginning, only that I was already studying and I know I won't have much time, but I did it anyway. I felt like I will fall behind and won't be able to catch up on all the knowledge offered, lol. Anyway, there I am - my Christmas present I told my family 😊

[@KirstyCanaday]

Thanks!

[@StrangersIteDomum]

Beautiful parlor, beautiful suits, beautiful conversation. Exemplary standards to aspire to

[@amandajephson9964]

Brilliant conversation, I enjoyed this so much!

[@123sheag]

these conversations are like therapy for society

[@alejandrowarrez7445]

Great choice on this guest he is delightfully intelligent. Excellent conversation thank you.

[@MarkCox21125150]

This should be pay per view it was so rich! I must say Dr. Hicks really did an astoundingly good job of grounding Dr. Peterson's often overly florid rhetoric. A+++ all around.

this must be the most elegant room to have a communication with other human, period

[@isaklytting5795]

I was thinking the same thing. Nice. Location actually can help the process of learning. Set and setting really does have some influence on what the final experience will be.

[@jullianInDecember]

Extremely enriching

[@theeeway7]

Thank you gents. You are exceptionally bright men. We should be sceptical. Why? Colossians 2, 8 warns us not to be misled. Scripture has everything to offer.

[@hellefreude5086]

Yes!! Intellectual discussions are just dressed up pride. JESUS, THE WORD made flesh, NEVER had any need to talk in a complex way. That should startle us. We are to become as children, or never see the kingdom of God! The highly complex TRUTH of GOD unfolds in us, as we humbly take in HIS revealed TRUTH and let His Holy Spirit transform our darkened understanding!

[@lukehardin9]

You are both complete morons

[@Robb3348]

@@hellefreude5086 yes I think it's important to remember that Jesus (the Logos incarnate) was not an intellectual. He talked about such things as birds, trees, foxes, giving your money to the poor, treasure buried in a field, his Father, forgiving and being forgiven, and love. Things that unlettered fishermen would understand. No fifty dollar words (like "transcendental" or "hermeneutic"), ever. Shouldn't that give us pause?

[@hellefreude5086]

@@Robb3348 Amen! Exactly!🙏

[@Robb3348]

@@hellefreude5086 it's a good feeling to harmonize with you, brother

[@fiveleavesleft6521]

Fascinating stuff. Thank you both.

[@danx1216]

“Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.”

[@j0hncon5tantine]

Really great stuff!!!

[@Chris-e6l3q]

I'm so excited that hope was restored by a change of administration and growing positive attitude I see blooming across America. A damn good reason to be proud again. A great feeling to be part of a movement of greatness. A grand spectacular moment in history in our era into the Age Aquarius.

[@rezadaneshi]

I always thought of truth as an unbiased report

[@knlazar08]

But a biased report can still be correct. And many unbiased people are still incorrect, about many things. So, at best, that outlook is frought with error.

[@CaptainSurfy]

Truth is the highest seated on the hierarchy of endeavours like Dr. Peterson explained we weight the facts and we classify them on the basis of what we consider important or perhaps relevant on whatever spectrum we measure it by. Truth ends up being heaviest meta narrative and often times that weight itself is based on what others experience, for example 2+2 is 4 and that’s an observation others can make so we evidently value the input of others in our auto determining factors. And to go even deeper we value these inputs from others as we much because we subconsciously associate them with survival right so it stood the test of time therefore it’s true or sophisticated by evolution.

[@mauriciogeleilate4631]

JP needs to interview Chris Langan! That would be so important to improve the our understanding of consciousness with the man with one the most interesting theories out there!

[@yakinimoseley6792]

I liked this conversation a lot more than Dawkins. Both appreciate the information, clarify and then analyze and critique.

[@CarliMichelle]

Yayyyy Prof Hicks is my favorite, been waiting so long for you to talk to him again!!!! ❤

[@GarikaiGumbo]

Absolutely love love love the recent thumbnail designs; quite reminiscent of Juliette Fogra's style

[@flamechick6]

Fabulous chairs 🪑

[@reycfd7753]

What a DUO!!! Thanks a lot! They look like twins also 😊.

[@jeremyogrizovich3247]

I’ve been waiting for this conversation, thank you gentlemen.

[@b-radsadventures6846]

Looking forward to watching his courses. They're next on our list.

[@bradknuppel2491]

Yay!! Dr. Hicks is fantistic.

[@FedKnox]

This is the best episode of JBP interviewing his future self.

[@amAntidisestablishmentarianist]

Yes thank you. More metaphysical videos with philosophers please.

[@knarfx4732]

🚨Prof Hicks is amazing. 👏

[@nathanbell6962]

Jordans chairs are leveling up

[@pj9591]

It was a great pleasure listening to your dialogues with Dr Stephen Hicks. Dr Peterson, you have chosen one of the best to teach at your university. I nevertheless regret that you still do not see that the love of power guides many individuals today in our society. That is the case in politics, science, big pharma, etc… The working class is still under the domination of rich owners and others to work for them. This situation is still alive and well. You can see it at work, in the rapport of the working class and the abusive power of capitalism. After all the working classes struggled, constant strikes and battles, over eon of time, to have better conditions, are now losing all acquired benefits, to the arrival of migrants working for a lower salary. Surely you cannot ignore, that from time immemorial these battles, in the balance of power have been relentless.

[@AFringedGentianToEnnien]

The title here, “the end of nihilism,” reminds me of the first time I learned the word “nihilism.” It was in a poetry class in college back in the aughts, when we were introduced to the poetry of James Tate. I have been a lover of poetry since I was a child and I found Tate’s use of the poetic form to convey nihilism to be sacrilegious. That was probably my first encounter with postmodernism, and I’ve been at war with it ever since.

[@idiotidiot5821]

I always found how closely nihilism is to the word annihilate was enough to feel the same way.

[@TheUnrulyMob]

Wow, what a great conversation! I might take one of his courses when Im done with Ancient Philosophy with Dr. Orr.

[@Caligula138]

Peterson greatly helped put Hicks on the map. I remember when JP name dropped him , years ago as an author who first guided him through post modern philosophy. Which brought much attention both positive and critical towards Hicks work.

[@BV-mg1ek]

under 20 min squad!!! this is exactly what I was looking for

[@notrewe]

thanks for that, great conversation. Put my mind to work.

[@lmwa1291]

One of the best podcast❤❤❤❤❤

[@cowgirl3144]

Jordan Peterson: just watched your conversation with Piers Morgan. Was outstanding 👏 👌. I learned so much. Thank you. I hope you go back soon. I subbed so i can watch you now.

[@mbernal]

16:10 17:41 18:31 23:56 Empirismo 25:00 Consciencia 25:38 Epistemología 27:59 Filosofía de la mente 29:09 Relación entre los dos anteriores 32:11 Psicología 42:57 Contraargumento a datos sensoriales y golpe de mesa 50:20 Filosofía y neurociencia 55:38 Formas de enraizar conocimiento 1:00:19 Critica a la noción de 'percatarse mediante narrativa' 1:02:12 Reformulación de la noción anterior 1:08:17 Uso de "focus" en lugar de "screen" 1:16:24 Espectro de "focus" (1:15:31) y (1:16:04) 1:33:37 Sobre el valor de la racionalidad

[@silverfox8484]

YES! What a power duo :D

[@GreterThurnburger]

This set is a very good example that shows how smart Jordan is. Notice the hight of the sitting surface, they are at the actual hight of where ones knees bends. Very comfortable , well done Doc!

[@HOUSE_RADIO]

This is shot beautifully

[@theEnt-1]

This makes me want to enroll in Peterson academy.

[@CaptainSurfy]

Fr