What If the Confederacy Reunited Today?

[@rawandhwayyiz4302]

Ah Florida, the only state that gets more Southern the more North you go...

[@haterade8328]

And more Mexican and Cuban the South you go. Ill take going north any day.

[@growlboy360]

@@haterade8328 Not really Mexican. More Cuban and Venezuelan.

[@andyc9902]

😂 I got that

[@justzephan2267]

@@growlboy360 I don’t think he knows the difference...

[@justzephan2267]

@@haterade8328 Qual é o problema com México e Cuba?

[@goodolboy5228]

Walmart headquarters is in Arkansas. The South would win as there would be a never ending supply of guns, bullets, jelly donuts and diet cokes.

[@meltedicecreamsandwich]

Good Ol' Boy The Union has Silicon Valley.

[@arkansaskid5047]

I HATE DIET COKES BUT I GUESS ID DRINK THE SHIT OUT THEM NASTY BASTARDS AND SHOOT ME SOME SNOW FLAKES

[@goodolboy5228]

Durn tootin'. We do our shipping on bass boats acrost Walmart ocean.

[@yeshualawson]

Good Ol' Boy i dont think walmart sells guns any more, they sell bullets tho.

[@yeshualawson]

Eddie LM the influf of cheap mexican meth has cut the obesity rate by atleast 30% lol. "Drugs are cheaper then candy bars."-Trump-

[@sambradley7393]

Interesting to see that US soldiers are disproportionally from the south

[@robertn2951]

It's the only jobs they can get besides Walmart...

[@fromthepublic9636]

@@robertn2951 it's because we have big stones

[@TheonormalMBV]

@@robertn2951 That seems a needlessly reductive and mean-spirited comment on an entire region, then again I'm not American so I don't really understand why you guys are so divided across, uh, every line.

[@raphaeldean5801]

@@TheonormalMBV A. It's a joke. B. I mean, they did rebel and declare war on our country to defend owning slaves, so they're not really on the good side. It's a touchy subject. C. Also just regional rivalry. College football conferences are a great example of this.

[@AJ-lh4fp]

Austin Clark you’re right, but rural east Texas is actually very very similar to the rest of the south and unfortunately that small portion of Texas is how the rest of the countries imagine us to be, forgetting we have massive cosmopolitan cities like Dallas and Houston

[@andrewadams5824]

As a southerner, seeing how deeply divided we are, I would not be at all suprised if something like this happens soon. I do think that states like Missouri, west Virginia, Kentucky, and Oklahoma would join the confederacy in todays times.

[@ChoongaLoonga]

As someone from eastaern europe seeing us turning very fast marxist/trotskyst think indiana and ohio would join

[@eatinsomtin9984]

@@ChoongaLoonga eastern europe is dead

[@GatorsRock01]

I also think the same about those states and possibly a few more. I think the split would be closer to around 20 states in the confederacy and maybe 30 for the other guys... This would alter the population, size of the military and the GDP. Plus more in my comment I just posted...

[@Tempe415]

it wouldn't be based on slavery though

[@GatorsRock01]

@@Tempe415 It wouldn't need to be because it is wrong. It's more likely that the so called union would implement unofficial slavery in the form of pay 90% or more of your income as taxes...

[@calvin5541]

If it reunited today West Virginia and Kentucky would definitely join, no question about it

[@Banditomojado]

And Virginia would join the north. Pretty reasonable swap.

[@GreenWhaIe]

@@Banditomojado yup I agree

[@DCJNewsMedia]

The South would likely have 20 states and the north 30.....alot of the bread basket would go Confederate..... so the north east and the north west would likely be split up so the confederacy would have a huge advantage...... just thinking....

[@TheFadler]

It would be more than than those. Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska would likely as well.

[@olidojosephd.9054]

@@DCJNewsMedia More like 27 Confederate states vs 23 Union states considering the 2008-2020 Red States and Blue States with swing states Florida, Ohio, and Iowa going to the Confederacy because they were last won by a Republican president twice consecutively, haves Republican governord, senators except the 50/50 on Ohio, representatives, and state legislatures.

[@ccxx20]

RealLifeLore: “What if the Confederacy was reunited today?” *Abraham Lincoln would like to know your location*

[@oscar471]

*D e c l i n e* n o

[@thatonetisoy]

Me: Texas :D

[@whafflete6721]

*Lincoln carried by an eagle interfiles*

[@alexevert5457]

"Hey what's the sound coming from General Sherman's grave?"

[@Skittles1987]

"Four score and seven years ago"

[@radecri]

But how many Toyota Corollas would be in the country?

[@Quazy]

Hahahahah

[@namingisdifficult408]

RealLifeLore agreed

[@DrJuice1]

RealLifeLore glad to see you recognize this.

[@thomashaines3182]

RealLifeLore yeah you should.

[@unflexian]

Well wolfram alpha says that a 2017 Corolla is 15.2ft by 4.77ft, or 72.5ft² (~6.7m²) , and that the confederacy is 1.99*10^6 km², so it could house about 2.965×10^11 (~296 billion) Corollas.

[@ravenmike5231]

I personally believe depending on what cause/agenda would cause the split, i believe the states would divide up a whole lot differently this time.

[@JL_Lux]

Yeah those 12 people in Montana aren’t gonna be a factor in the same ass kicking the confederates got the first time

[@davidh.1540]

It would have global implications: *UK, Canada, Australia, NZ would oppose the secession and support the Union. *France, Germany and most EU Nations would support the Union. *Ireland, Hungary would support the CSA. *Mexican states bordering Texas would support the CSA. *China would remain neutral however they would exploit the situation by invading Taiwan. *Russia would remain neutral due to their ongoing conflict in Ukraine. The US would no longer be able to properly intervene in global affairs since the CSA would always support the opposing side. The reality is, this type of conflict is already being played out in Ukraine between 2014 to 2022 and it is total disaster for that country.

[@FlyingMonet]

@@davidh.1540 why would we allow foreign countries to get involved in a war on our soil? We’re not Ukraine. We handle internal conflicts ourselves. I could see Mexico getting involved because of the war on drugs but that’s about it

[@ChoongaLoonga]

@@davidh.1540 i think indiana and ohio would join confederates because of conservatovism in those states missouri oklahom kentucky too

[@josephquinonez6885]

Arizona would go confederate also

[@shep8519]

The Confederacy: **Reunites** The United States: **Starts Civil War** Maine: 😏🇨🇦

[@kimberlycash4319]

I'm a Daughter of the Confederacy member

[@shep8519]

@@kimberlycash4319 oh

[@kimberlycash4319]

South Carolina

[@hansriseli6975]

@@kimberlycash4319 lol

[@deliaz8626]

@@kimberlycash4319 ew

[@GermanChristians]

Notice how the south’s military would be practically the same size as the north’s? Yet the north has double the population...that’s because MOST of the US military comes from southern and rural states.

[@AzureRosePlays]

This is true most come from the south and I'd definitely join the csa well one cause I'm Alabamian

[@grovercleveland8572]

Union 2017: 1,211,000 CSA 2017: 1,153,000

[@ultimatestoryteller]

Texas !

[@Skittles1987]

@@AzureRosePlays rebel

[@AzureRosePlays]

@@Skittles1987 rebel?

[@Mistrivious]

*What if england became a city?*

[@Demithekid]

Englandistan

[@ozzyraretracks2390]

England is my city...

[@boipboi3225]

Actually there's a city in Arkansas Called England

[@deltaforce7815]

The legend 27 u

[@s.e.f8160]

Ironically, England, Arkansas had many plantations and some of the buildings still stand. There's still lots of cotton, soy, corn and so on that still grows out there but now Mexicans work the land (bc my Mexican husband does, the boss to one of those farms out there is the descendant of plantation owners and still has the business running. Says on the sign Bear something farm Est. 1800& something. ) it pretty out there but also kind of creepy) and lots of black people out there which isn't very common in rural settings except where plantations existed. Also the Toltec mounds are out there. It's very beautiful.

[@calebbalts7618]

I personally think that there would be more states joining the confederacy as well as a population shift with people taking sides

[@super_slav91]

I am sure that the people would have had enough of a duopoly in government, I know we do in Australia, would encourage more people to leave.

[@highjumpstudios2384]

Why though. What's so attractive about a government who's most influential actors are landowners who've already acquired all the best farmland?

[@dvchel]

@@super_slav91 Basically all US States would join, with the exception of coastal Metropolitan States such as NY and California etc.

[@AngelloDelNorte]

Oh definitely! I'm a born CA but I would support the confederacy to be made as its own confederacy. I know UT, WY, MT, Most of Oregon, N/D Dakota, Oklahoma, WV, etc would join the confederacy.

[@ChoongaLoonga]

Indiana and ohio?

[@ghostchris519]

USA: you're weak Confederacy: I'm you

[@Nick-lx4fo]

Haha

[@JohnDavis-sb6ex]

Next time we'll see how you handle tactical nukes shoved up your ass. lol

[@cxarhomell5867]

@@JohnDavis-sb6ex If you use nukes, you'll be the most fucked up nation in history and possibly get the biggest harassment and embargo.

[@seppelin8057]

@@JohnDavis-sb6ex CSA has nukes too

[@greggibler5644]

Lol we are only week 2 fools So what is it say about you

[@raybass1938]

If it ever happened again Oklahoma and a few other states would join the confederacy

[@raycom201]

@juan hernandez Democrats and republicans switched their ideals before the 21st century

[@raycom201]

@Bunny Bun no, not really. Just a change in ideals and policies.

[@masonpyle5929]

Kentucky and West Virginia might join( West Virginia secession would be ironic since it only exists due to the Civil War)

[@ayeeeeeeee6240]

yeah I think it’d be Oklahoma, Kentucky, West Virginia and maybe Missouri

[@franko8408]

@@ayeeeeeeee6240 kanas as well, Atleast

[@timecrashv5wu709]

Usa vs Confed China: support Confed and declare war at USA Russia: Helps China and declare war at USA Britain: Helps USA and declare war at China and Russia South America teams: Helps USA and declare war at China and Russia Germany: declare war at France because yes, why not

[@tangerinepaint3643]

Germany: Sorry, force of habit.

[@rinharter7758]

Mexico: *Sad wall noises*

[@atompunk456]

Germany: sorry force of habit

[@osberswgaming]

North Korea: Ima nuke USA haha- South Korea: I’m about to end this mans whole career

[@braike5503]

Lol

[@treyanderson325]

Kentucky and Missouri were "neutral" but were recognized by both governments. Kentucky even had Frankfort as the union state capital but bowling Green was the confederate capital of the state. Id imagine if it happened again you'd basically have to have a passport to cross the Ohio river

[@timpoolsbeanie2296]

If this happened today, I don’t think Virginia would break away like they did back then. But I would also add states like Kentucky, Missouri, and Oklahoma.

[@sharynstover1823]

I don't think Kentucky will join they had a chance to go with texas and didn't but Missouri, olklahoma and even west Virginia join Texas plus about 15 more states also included

[@timpoolsbeanie2296]

@@sharynstover1823 I guess you could include the middle of the country too like Nebraska, Kansas, the Dakotas, and Montana then. That would effectively split the country into two. Which doesn’t go over well for the establishment.

[@timpoolsbeanie2296]

@@sharynstover1823 also, I could imagine states like Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Georgia, Arizona, and Michigan (states where Biden won but more counties voted for Trump) would make things interesting as well.

[@sharynstover1823]

@@timpoolsbeanie2296 good point i didn't think about that lol

[@11co5955]

I think only a few counties around dc in virginia would stay. The remainder of the state is very deep red

[@beniu1305]

1860: Virginia: VIRGINIA MOST POWERFUL 2021: Texas and Florida: Is Virginia a joke to us?

[@Defcon6]

@@beniu1305 request is denied

[@beniu1305]

@@Defcon6 nvm

[@Defcon6]

@@beniu1305 oh what the hell, for you I’ll make an exception and delete it.

[@notfundy345]

VIRGINia

[@olidojosephd.9054]

Besides, Virginia will be now in the Union while West Virginia will be now in the Confederacy, UNO reverse.

[@nathanbennig5103]

Texas and Florida: Well, well, well, how the turntables

[@ems7623]

Care to buy a verb?

[@davank4723]

@@ems7623 what

[@ညေြိ့ငမ့မကတြာုကသ်မစျြြငိုချ့်ဆ]

@@davank4723 *what*

[@ShadowGaming26548]

Ever heard of verbs

[@EM33700]

Looks like the glove is on the other foot.

[@7bridgesroad213]

There would be at least 10 states added to the CSA. Wouldn’t just be north and south. It would be liberal vs conservative.

[@kaixiang5390]

Will never happen tho, the liberal-conservative divide is almost exactly the urban-rural divide. Both sides would starve without each other

[@kaixiang5390]

@@ZRodTW do you have any idea where all the manpower for places like LA, NYC, and the military comes from? Do you honestly think city kids are gonna “subjugate” a bunch of pissed-off farmers?

[@marcusho7052]

CSA : attacks Union Union : attacks CSA Nato : confusion News : America attacks america Florida man : its my time to shine Me : eats popcorn in Singapore

[@H2007IQ]

69th like

[@plant5875]

@Mark Lanzarotta lmao salty

[@cyberdharma1020]

HAHAHA

[@miyakaashelymaeyuuki6369]

@Mark Lanzarotta LOL NICE

[@miyakaashelymaeyuuki6369]

@@plant5875 wut

[@Composure_Official]

Texas: I am seceding. The confederacy: yay let's do it! Texas: no. "I".

[@bronball7881]

LMAOLYLOLYFULLXD

[@RansomMoney58]

In that case, the CSAs most influential state would be Florida, with a gdp over 1 trillion as of October 2021.

[@ajperkins2430]

Daddy wouldnt leave us

[@garfield2164]

If Texit were to happen, it’d only be inevitable for other states to follow.

[@drawingcrabs7046]

Golden circle

[@thebottlewithoutalix2806]

What if every house was a country?

[@Felixkeeg]

Confusing, because England is my city

[@unflexian]

NYC Is my favorite mode of transport

[@denpadolt9242]

Why would you make a gridlock your favourite mode of transport?

[@taicanium]

Buddy, go to Wyoming. There, every house *is* basically its own country.

[@potatochip5941]

Caleb Burns 😂 haha that's true

[@Foxhaven2482]

Lets be honest idaho, Northand South Dakota, Montana and Wyoming would probably join them as well which would give them the oil advantage and an agriculture advantage as well

[@amiwong]

USA: 150 years ago, I fought the bloodiest battle of my life against myself and as much as 3% of the population died China: That’s cute Edit: Wow so many likes!

[@thestraw8271]

Me: *Not laughing*

[@amiwong]

@@thestraw8271 Hotel: Trivago

[@codyduncan2839]

Ww1 and ww2 champs ❤️❤️🤟🏻 see y’all for my get backs on the wuhan virus ww3 champs 🔝

[@kakorot6667]

Bruh moment

[@eyyy2271]

*Taiping Rebellion would like to know your location*

"Shit fam who will we fight now?" "Ourselves?" "Yea good idea"

@Charles Lee Ray I cant say you're wrong...

[@skipwelcome9993]

Don't worry it's not going to be much of a fight will just take Yankees crayons away from them and send them to bed with no supper that'll do it War over

[@mikewatts8372]

the smartest thing I read all morning

[@kimsey0000]

Where there is peace, the warlike man will fight himself -Nietzsche

[@frankodonnell4073]

@@skipwelcome9993 THATS ABOUT THE SAME SHIT THE REBS SAID AT THE START OF THE STUPIDEST WAR IN AMERICAN HISTORY NOTHING WAS ACOMPLISHED//EXCEPT THE WEST GOT INVADED/BUFFALO /AND INDIANS GOT KILLED/ALL THIS WHEN THERE WAS NO MORE WAR TO FIGHT/POLITICIANS LOVE WARS /THEY GET A CHANCE TO STUFF THEIR POCKETS /I READ U,S, HISTORY LIKE THE DIRTY NOVEL/ THAT IT IS/ABOUT LIKE THE BIBLE /SAME SHIT

[@jtregulator49]

The big thing that is missed in this video, is that an overwhelming majority of oil and gas production for the country is conducted in Louisiana and Texas. If that was cut off from the Union there would be a disaster. You also must consider that conservative States would join with the South!

[@bzs7760]

They can always invade Canada, get it from Alaska.

[@spotteddawgranch9421]

@@bzs7760 Alaska only has 3 refineries. They couldn't keep up.

[@jfrd-pw4hk]

LOL Canada would and Mexico would support the Union easily.

[@remkometkrullen]

Also, he talks about the GDP which is twice the size in the Union, but with the Confederacy having only half the population of the Union the average per capita income would not differ substantially. And then there's the fact that logistics could become a major problem for the Union if they have to conscript troops and get supplies from all over the country whilst most of their major cities are all in the East, especially if some central states decide to join the Confederacy.

[@zaidnava562]

I don’t think the Midwest would risk losing their farm subsidies. And the union would have fight tooth and nail to regain those oil fields. Also there would be huge insurrections in the south, mainly from the black population and those loyal to the union.

[@imperium35769]

One thing that isnt really being considered is the reason for fighting. While southern states would be fighting a war of territorial defense and autonomy from the union, union soldiers would be fighting to preserve the union. Of course there are plenty of other factors but I feel like this is one of the biggest ones that was left out.

[@williamsherman1942]

Anyone who thinks that the North will let the south just leave is stupid and doesn’t know much

[@hyperbolicraider4848]

South: has guns North(and northeast):debate about guns West: ... should I be part of this or...

[@keynight7513]

lmao as if a few hicks with no teeth in their backyard be a match for the unions 450 billion dollar military budget and more than double the power of the economy. Dont kid yourself bro

[@dustinchristensen3894]

kEy NiGht well also think about it like this. The southern states that are also in the Bible Belt are primarily conservative. Unlike the north east and the west coast guys. You can go ahead and put the majority of the Midwest guys in with the southern states on this one. If they were to break off it would most likely to avoid the socialists that are trying to run the country. Now, the majority of the military is also conservatives and to think they would fire on their people is just off. Now some of those “hicks with no teeth” are also former military. So they teach their kids how to hunt fish and track and live off the land. Not to mention they’re fighting on their on land. And the countless militias that are spread across the south that are also former military. Even if the military wasn’t on the side of the south. You should’ve gone over the revolutionary war in history class. And at the time Americans were just a bunch of drunk trigger happy farmers so just think about it chief.

[@keynight7513]

@@dustinchristensen3894 If you think the war will be the same as it was in the 1800's, you are mistaken. The technology and military strength of the north is far to great for any other country to rival. Let alone the south which has very little industrial power and economic activity. And conservatism is nowhere near the government styles of the Confederacy. If you have ever read any literature on governmental systems in the confederacy, you will realize that the reason they lost the war was to poor government enforcement in states, very little taxation, and a stand still economy. The sad truth for you libertarians is, government will and will always have to have a role in your lives. Have too small of a government, and you'll end up like those "toothless southerners" we love to make fun of. :)

[@aeroslayer7676]

kEy NiGht You know there is a lot of us that are educated and live in places like Huntsville Alabama where I'm in college for aerospace engineering..... I still don't disrespect the uneducated ones around here though, because usually they are a lot better people then theses educated high and mighty people I'm around all the time

[@keynight7513]

@@aeroslayer7676 I know. I just like to make a quick joke in order to get my point across that the confederacy will never be able to rise again, that there entire governmental system works no better than communism, and that the military power of the south will consist of 1/5 the size of the north's. Let alone industrial power, roads & transportation, and many other disadvantages.

[@taylorrobeug2044]

Nobody: Seattle: lets succeed and make our own country that spans 8 blocks. I see its secede and not succeed but do you see that is in fact the joke?

[@chriswilmott5381]

Correction 6 blocks. Also it won't last nearly as long.

[@kingnothing5678]

They'll starve before July 4

[@wnose]

*secede

[@chrstimm9079]

@@wnose thanks I just spent 5 minutes trying not to just spell "success"

[@jerry85g7]

It's going good so far.

[@AbrahamLincoln4]

That would be my worst nightmare. A conflict even more destructive to America!

[@jacksonsmith4935]

Abraham Lincoln killed demokkkrats

[@battleblox5444]

@@jacksonsmith4935 says a Republican

[@jacksonsmith4935]

Whippy4105 and what’s your point?

[@battleblox5444]

@@jacksonsmith4935 Your a republican. Therefore your talking poop about another Party

[@battleblox5444]

@@jacksonsmith4935 I'm just joking with ya, nothon serious

[@Lindsay423]

This is fascinating. It’s similar to a thought experiment I’ve thought would be interesting: what would the U.S. be like now if the confederate army had won and we’d split into two different countries back then?

[@Zeus-jm6mz]

I feel like, racism would be more common then it already is, I couldn't imagine living in modern day confederate states, that'd be horrifying

[@anthonyflynn9953]

The liklihood is that it would've morphed into a federated republic of some sort, largely split by cultural issues

[@allentiu3982]

A lot more left wing and a lot more white

[@michaelmckesson6997]

@@Zeus-jm6mz Oh no. They would've had slavery a few more years, until they figured out there was cheaper means of producing cotton. Then deported all the blacks back to Africa, as it's cheaper than paying for them. Making a white ethnostate with zero racism since no none whites would be living there. Much like Europe.

[@scott5309]

The south would have formed a new third world country lol!

[@PicklePickle7]

Why didn’t the Confederate soldier want to go to the baseball game?… He heard the Yankees were playing.

[@namingisdifficult408]

yo yo 10/10

[@ericbaker8781]

I like this joke

[@TheOfficialSlimber]

lol

[@PicklePickle7]

It is the only Confederate Joke I know :D

[@taicanium]

Booooooooooooo! XD

[@groovy4684]

“HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN”

[@tealablu3759]

“I love the young people”

[@soulplexis]

"I love the black people"

[@lancevanceGTA]

Lmao

[@golddropper2747]

Asphalt 9

[@sarahdotson2521]

Lmao the Yanks couldn’t win now with this shit they have fighting if the south only had the smallest state fighting all others

[@seanthe100]

The fact that the U.S. can loose 1/3rd of it's country and still be the most powerful nation in the world is mind boggling and a real example of just the ultimate unparalleled power of the U.S.A. may we stay together til the end and God bless America! 🇺🇸💪

[@jackthorton10]

God Bless America

[@parizer4009]

america sucks

[@sovereign831]

@@parizer4009 Why please support with EVIDENCE

[@TheVinc123]

@@parizer4009 They became the most prosperous nation in the world so obviously not

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

That was four years ago buddy. China is quickly becoming the new global power. They had a better response to the Covid pandemic and were able to quickly get back to normal economic power, they're much more organized simply because they're a dictature, they have comparably good internationnal relationships partly thanks to Trump, they have a far bigger population...

[@CrisisMonday]

When Johnny comes marching home for the second time, Hurrah! Hurrah!

[@brandonpennington872]

I feel like Virginia would not be involved with the confederacy, but conservative states in the midwest may get involved with the confederacy

[@tomgraceffa4401]

you realize confederates were democrats

[@757CitiesReppa]

Virginia wouldn’t have SHIT to do with the confederacy today and anyone who doesn’t know that is a dumbass who lives in fantasy world

[@jmadmaxx7295]

Midwesterners hate the confederacy, don’t get it wrong. Nobody likes those bastards, and those who do are treated as a bunch of racist bumpkins.

[@jmadmaxx7295]

midgetydeath West Virginia broke away, but that’s different than Virginia breaking away? I guess?

[@DrachenYT]

Conservative =/= Confederate, despite how the modern day states align. You can't form one-to-one comparisons like that.

[@marcussmith301]

Me: *Listens to Dixie Land for 10 minutes* Me: *Clicks off Dixie Land* Me: *sees video* Me: *Excitedly clicks*

[@logangotlost6571]

I wish I was in the land of traitors, rattlesnakes, bears, and gators

[@gorestfump8935]

@@logangotlost6571 Union asked for it and we gave em the gun.

[@colethomas4688]

Long Live Rhodesia in some way shape or form, yes

[@dudedude315]

YALL FUCKED UP

[@lilyeet141]

Can relate

[@MacrossSD]

One other thing that would make conflict inevitable: That division of the military would include nukes. The US probably wouldn't tolerate a nuclear-armed secessionist state right on its borders, no matter how benign the split.

[@anzgh3145]

we can, SHOULD split and simply stay in peace ..LIVE AND LET LIVE..LEAVE US ALONE...LET US BE..DONT THREAD ON ME..etc.we'd have our Republican POTUS they'd have their commie friend/DemocRat Potus, fascistic tyrannical, brain washing demagogues!

[@cg123ize]

@@anzgh3145 the fact that you literally stated "commie fascist" shows there isnt a single ounce of brain cells in that head of yours. The two are literally NOTHING alike

[@mrpineapple3942]

@@anzgh3145 I don’t fully support your statement but I don’t fully not support it

[@kourii]

This is the biggest deal about a possible secession (no matter what form it might take). That sort of instability in a nuclear power should give anyone pause.

[@right_jar]

@@anzgh3145 cope and troll better pls

[@Raptor302]

There were two 'superhighways' of the 19th century U.S. An independent Confederacy would cut off the north-south Mississippi River (preventing inland access to the Gulf of Mexico) and if Missouri had joined the CSA, cut off the east-west transcontinental railroad (under construction during the war). If the CSA had succeeded in remaining independent and successfully fractured these highways, California would likely be its own country, encompassing the territories of Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Utah, and Arizona. The Union would have a long border to guard and would be more European oriented in terms of cultural influence and foreign relations. Midwest and Mountain states could have been divided amongst these three powers, or become independent, landlocked countries.

[@Hunterrion]

bless you for using the correct flag. EDIT: I just realized that this comment BLEW UP, I wanna correct my definition of "Correct" flag, basically, the battleflag is no more than a symbol of racism at this point, the stars and bars is more of a proper representation of a nation rather than It's practice of slavery. (ty for the likes)

[@manifestman132]

Not sure why he wouldn’t. Though if it happened today the flag might be different. The Rebel Flag was a army flag though it is not the flag of the Confederacy it is a Confederate flag.

[@Flemalt]

cdm mapping

[@roymyers549]

what is the correct flag the south used several different desighns

[@Flemalt]

@@roymyers549 the one with white 13 stars on the blue left corner, 2 red stripes top and bottom, and one white in the middle, the confederate x is only a battle flag

[@poopfanpoopfan3332]

Not FleMz i mean he could’ve also used the blood stained banner which was the last national flag and had the confederate cross

[@luckymeziere3675]

I live in Oklahoma and lived here my whole life and Oklahoma would for sure be part of the confederacy if it started again

[@indorailfans2532]

Yes Oklahoma to completely

[@tamata1456]

@Pleiadian Cause its a shithole full of racists who idolize confederate ideals

[@markfare7582]

@@tamata1456 wah wah cry more

[@BigDaddy-jk6yt]

@@tamata1456 no it’s not I’m a Texan and have been there there is actually a very large black population and this video never said slavery would still be around.

[@royalroyal2210]

@@tamata1456 lol both of yall are the same, quit throwing stones. Ya think Union states lack shitholes & racists?? Bish please

[@rabbitgirl8378]

*china supports the confederacy* USA: Nani?! Edit:Just received a email from ofc email checked this comment and saw 1k likes, also my sister owns this account now, my channel/account is Tortor Empire so yea lol Edit2: Jack Hook and ToFester are fighting about facts lol

[@darrenxie5697]

Kurwa389 very likely lol

[@yukikaze-117]

And Russians too

[@maxwellli7057]

@@darrenxie5697 bad for their economy, wouldnt be worth it.

[@Skittles1987]

China and Russia wouldn't support anyone, they both hate us so they would want us to fight for a long time so we get weakened and then loose power

[@TheRegenerator]

Kurwa389 I just wanna say I like your nickname

[@chaosunleashed274]

Thanks to this video I found out the entire State of Texas used to have a smaller population around the time of the Civil War than my current city of residence does now, even though it is a mid-sized city at best by today's standards. I can only imagine how distinct daily life must have been back then.

[@ccdogpark]

Distinct ???

[@stephenphilip5294]

You should do one on what if the US went to war with every other country on Earth. It's a thing I've heard a lot of discussion about to see how long the US could hold off

[@namingisdifficult408]

Stephen Philip um...

[@beardedne4704]

Stephen Philip we would just nuke the other country's causing a global winter killing almost everyone on earth

[@gilbert5779]

RealLifeLore DO IT

[@lucasdillon59]

Ever thought of the economic repercussions? The US could not last a week.

[@danglezbenderz]

They'd lose, but just barely. What about a NATO vs the world scenario? Or NATO and a few of their close allies like Japan and Australia?

[@sarpbakrsoy8125]

Georgia: "Oh God, oh fuck. Sherman, please, not again."

[@SledgerFromTDS.]

• 1. Top 10 Hardest Countries (Terrain) GLF. -1. USA - Militarized -2. Japan - Island -3. China - Trained -4. Russia - Winter -5. Canada - Winter -6. Israel - Thoughest -7. Great Britain - Island -8. North Korea - Nukes -9. Australia - Deserted -10. Iran - Fortressed • 2. Top 10 Strongest Countries (Military) PIR. -1. USA - 0.0857 -2. Russia - 0.0929 -3. China - 0.0945 -4. India - 0.1593 -5. France - 0.1914 -6. UK - 0.2131 -7. Japan - 0.2137 -8. Turkey - 0.2491 -9. Germany - 0.2609 -10. Egypt - 0.2676 • 3. Top 10 Richest Countries (Money) $. -1. USA - $21.44 T -2. China - $14.14 T -3. Japan - $5.15 T -4. Germany - $3.86 T -5. India - $2.94 T -6. UK - $2.83 T -7. France - $2.71 T -8. Italy - $1.99 T -9. Brazil - $1.85 T -10. Canada - $1.73 T • 4. Top 10 Populated Countries (People) M. -1. China - 1440 M -2. India - 1380 M -3. USA - 331 M -4. Indonesia - 274 M -5. Pakistan - 221 M -6. Brazil - 213 M -7. Nigeria - 206 M -8. Bangladesh - 165 M -9. Russia - 146 M -10. Mexico - 129 M • 5. Top 10 Biggest Countries (Area) KM^2. -1. Russia - 17,098,242 KM^2 -2. Canada - 9,984,670 KM^2 -3. USA - 9,833,517 KM^2 -4. China - 9,596,961 KM^2 -5. Brazil - 8,515,767 KM^2 -6. Australia - 7,692,024 KM^2 -7. India - 3,287,263 KM^2 -8. Argentina - 2,780,400 KM^2 -9. Kazakhstan - 2,724,900 KM^2 -10. Algeria - 2,381,741 KM^2

[@susactivities_]

@@SledgerFromTDS. ok

[@SledgerFromTDS.]

@@susactivities_ ok so what are you talking about???

[@susactivities_]

@@SledgerFromTDS. ok

[@susactivities_]

@@SledgerFromTDS. ok

[@nittanyburg20]

The whole north/south thing is way oversimplified. As the latest election revealed, its more of a conflict between urban and non-urban cultures, and the rural and suburban parts of union states have much more in common with confederate states than they do with their own cities. A modern civil war would be much more complicated than just drawing a line between north and south

[@Marylandbrony]

Hot Cosby Just look up his video on the Red/Blue state divide.

[@nittanyburg20]

The Blue Growlithe here in Pennsylvania pretty much every square inch of the state except Philly and one county in Pittsburgh is hard core conservative, which is reflected in the state's conservative laws. Unfortunately Philadelphia is so populated that we always seem to just miss edging them out in presidential elections, until the most recent one where we finally did

[@nittanyburg20]

The Blue Growlithe yeah that really sucks. Here it's not all the cities that are liberal luckily. Just the biggest ones. I live in the Harrisburg/York metropolitan area which is the third most populous area in the state, after Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. It's made up of 4 counties, all of which are overwhelmingly red, except for Dauphin (where Hershey is), which goes slightly blue because the actual city of Harrisburg is in it

[@ayanmukherjee9678]

Hot Cosby Finally someone that gets it

[@BlueBleedStl]

The Blue Growlithe, the state of Illinois and House Speaker Mike Madigan are a great example of exactly what you speak of. He only cares about Chicago and funneling tax dollars from rural areas to subsidize O'hare airport unions and the Chicago teachers unions. He is also a prime example of why there needs to be term limits. The guy has been in charge of Illinois since the 80's, holding the state hostage with more power than the governor that is elected by the whole state.

[@ricky4214]

instead of being a massive superpower that no one could contend with we could weaken ourselves by splitting up. strength in numbers, we don't need different countries for different cultural zones, one of the great things about the many different cultural zones in our great country is that you can move and live where you want. this country is great for a lot of reasons, one of them being our huge size and diversity of geography and cultures

[@notapokemontrainer800]

"What if the Confederacy Reunited Today?" The Union: So any way, I started blasting.

[@yanuchiuchihaanimegamesand3907]

Russia be like: Yoink

[@cdismore3251]

The way things are going at the moment, it wouldn't suprise me in the least if we don't end up in a 2nd civil war soon.

[@cdismore3251]

@@Mudvillereacts Nope, thanks to the Democratic Party. I'm a registered Democrat and I've been ashamed of the party for the last 20 years. This is not the party my grandfather described to me when I registered to vote, and I'm sure he has rolled over in his grave over the way the dems have shitted on this country.

[@TheCaptainSplatter]

@@Mudvillereacts a lot of it is Dems fault but Trump isn't doing enough.

[@peterblood50]

@@cdismore3251 So get out. Who's stopping you?

[@thebaconbuizel3598]

"Texas especially would dominate" Hurricane Harvey: Hold my beer

[@pi2z806]

hurricane harvey wasn't really that bad to me. for some other people though........ one of my friends had their hosue halfway under water

[@pi2z806]

You know not all Texans are racist right...

[@kosmos-w2j]

Nubpai He wasnt talking to you

[@Jeepsteve1982]

God blessed Texas, but he lives in Tennessee.

[@maverick3636]

**this is how it really went Hurricane Harvey: I’m coming for you Texas Texas: hold my beer

[@FroppyVA]

If the CSA reunited today then They will have more states like Oklahoma, New Mexico and Arizona

[@name-ex3tn]

Kentucky too

[@DarkBlade37]

No, AZ wouldn't join. WV might.

[@isaiahbrains8039]

You forget Missouri!

[@sharynstover1823]

I agree Kentucky, West Virginia, I don't know much about Missouri as they are Midwestern but maybe they will also

[@isaiahbrains8039]

@@sharynstover1823 the famous battle of the hemp bails, took place at Lexington Missouri.

[@TheCriticalChris]

This videomaker’s assumptions about the economic capacity, military strength, and population growth of the states of the former confederacy rest upon on its development since readmittance to the union. So, the context of the word “today” in the title of the video is everything.

[@cincinnatibengalsfan2451]

Fun fact: Scott County in northern TN never joined the confederacy. it formed an unrecognized independent state and didnt rejoin TN until 1986

[@xhocs]

@the south will rise again yeah it’s real

[@dkc2597]

Jonestown Mississippi has rebelled against the CSA so making your Rebellion within a rebellion

[@newdogmodel3893]

@@dkc2597 That was late in the war. The person who started the Free State of Jones was a confederate soldier but deserted because his horses and supplies were taken from his home. He then started the Free State of Jones when the Confederate authorities imprisoned him and burned his farm down. So I wouldn’t really call it a rebellion. But good on him for starting it though

[@MrRukiddin]

Oneida, Winfield and Huntsville.

[@howierichard5238]

@@xhocs only in your dreams fool. Get over it. You lost.

[@burymedeep-be7dm]

A lot of Arizonans would jump to the Confederacy. No doubt about it

[@presto4548]

burymedeep 2093 ALL the Plains States AND Montana, Wyoming And Utah...All in. That just leaves the coasts.😂

[@deadaccount-rip]

Yeah no joke. Idaho too. It would cut the country in half.

[@seekanddestroy7343]

Awesome. Florida here, we would be glad to have you all.

[@ironocy496]

Oklahoma wasn't a state then but it would definitely be Confederacy. Then I'd have to move lol.

[@rustypudder7072]

Theyd be landlocked. You have a whole state inbetween.

[@Kp08og]

You’re forgetting to account for all the other states that might join the new confederacy, and also the amount of guns and fire power owned by civilians, which really gives their “starting army” an advantage

[@jkac1085]

And civilians that know how to yes them properly

[@jfrd-pw4hk]

The video was talking about the former Confederate States only. which is based on historical FACTS. Your idea will just be subject to SPECULATION so it wasn't considered.

[@jojowhite9296]

@@jkac1085 But then you put the overall intelligence of the North and it would be no contest. The south would be using that civilian fire power and the north would have drones kicking their asses.

[@jkac1085]

@JoJo White thanks for spelling out you IQ for me for now I will no waste much of my time or yours. If you're are going to assume that the north is so much more intelligent than the south, just remember what "assume" means. And assumptions are what bites you in the ass in almost any situation.

[@jojowhite9296]

@@jkac1085 "thanks for spelling out you IQ for me" Your writing skills tell me all I want to know. You sir, just confirmed what I just stated in my above statement.

[@timfurnier7061]

I'm pretty sure that at the time of the Civil War, Texas was a much bigger state. Its territories included much of Oklahoma, New Mexico, Nebraska, and Colorado, so you would have to include them as well as Arizona......probably.

[@Eevcee]

Texas did not include New Mexico or Arizona. They were separate territories split between north and south.

[@shaolin2006]

The C.S.A has something called "florida man"

[@w4ck3ed]

Have you heard of the “New york voulenteer”

[@yeetmate7382]

The unstoppable force of the south

[@retrogradedad651]

You obviously know nothing about Florida if you think they could turn that state into a Confederate state again. It would be total chaos in Florida if something like that happened. Half the south's population wouldn't even take up arms. Whites of the south should just be happy their bloodline kept them alive by surrendering.

[@doriancool7470]

@@retrogradedad651 Dang ur hella racist chill

[@garfield2164]

@@retrogradedad651 r/whooosh

[@lawrenceyezersky8538]

If it would actually ever happen, more states would probably join the Confederacy especially in middle America. Also , it would be very difficult to fight a civil war using modern warfare with such big powers. Also other countries around the world might play a large influence

[@JL_Lux]

Yeah they would beat them back into the union like last time

[@bunnyhops477]

Nah they'll be completely crush either way like last time but probably worse sense the union got way more money.

[@ghjpkshdgtjdgvbzm]

The union has a much larger economy not to mention they would definitely have international support, unlike the confederacy

[@AmericanPatriotsLoveTrump]

We win this time with help from Russia and China

[@ultimate_capper3643]

@@AmericanPatriotsLoveTrump bold of you to assume they’re in the position to help you. Russia is getting its ass clapped by Ukraine, and china is busy dealing with the riots occurring due to lockdown. Neither of them are in the position to help the confederacy, should it once exist. This isn’t also including the USA’s Allie’s who would rush in the help the union.

[@100percentSNAFU]

If there was ever another civil war it wouldn't be strictly North vs South, it would be conservative vs liberal. If that ever happens I am getting my conservative ass out of my blue home state and moving to Texas!

[@stanb990]

There always has been and always will be both rabid conservatives and rabid liberals in all societies. Case in point You plan to run to the state that produced Willie Nelson

[@kennyw871]

Why wait for the next civil war leave now, or do you need government funds to pay for it?

[@mistaspot1]

Your red ass can stay out of Texas. No thanks. We're on our way to becoming blue. Go Beto! Take your ass to Alabama.

[@skipwelcome9993]

Find me a smart Yankee when it hits the fan Steve don't come here wearing no blue no real Southerner would defect to the north only ones leaving all them damn Yankees who jump the Mason-Dixon line illegally and if you're coming here boy you better love grits fried chicken and cornbread

[@mrjroc318]

Blacks and Hispanics would not support conservatives in the South.

[@berata45]

I think if this happened today you also see a number of mountain west states along with rural areas of Washington and Oregon join the secession. In addition the war aspect is vastly over simplified. The secessionist government would be wise to use insurgents along side conventional forces as part of their strategy. Industrially the secession states would be in a much better position than in 1861 because of the influx of manufacturing jobs as the northeast raised taxes on corporations along with increased regulation.

[@stickynorth]

Hello, Canadian annexation of the Northwest/Midwest/Northeast... Mexico would/should reclaim its old territories in California, TEXAS and FLORIDA... The rest can survive as the Confederacy... Red Dawn 3.0...

[@wildflowersmile3224]

Watching in 2017: Pff yeah right Watching in 2020: shiz, what if they do?

[@jeffwang6460]

If anything it would probably be the Northeast and West coasts seceding, as well as parts of the Northern Midwest, i.e. Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The South and Midwest seem pretty content with the power distribution in the current government.

[@arnv4487]

@@StephenKershaw1 See you'd think that but if 2020 proved anything its that everything can change in an instant. I don't think it should be dismissed so easily

[@RepresentativeSea]

@Stephan Kershaw you have no idea what rural America is capable of we stand for what America was in the 40's an industrial powerhouse not the pathetic nation it was under Obama. Trump is our last hope and once he's done with his eight years this country either breaks into chaos and disorder or can be orderly and peaceful your call libtard.

[@doorknobsdoorknobs675]

Naw more people would retalte

[@mikemush9741]

@@StephenKershaw1 Don't the southern states receive much more in funding from DC than they send there? I think it's like $1.30 for every tax dollar they send. Based on that they'd be in trouble immediately.

[@rickjamez7004]

DOES THISE MEAN WE WATCH THE DUKES OF HAZZARD AGAIN?

[@insertoriginalyoutubeusern6229]

YES. FINALLY. Praise the Lord.

[@nathanielhiggerson7679]

Maybe they can put the flag back on the general lee

[@ONECOUNT]

I refuse to watch it because every car jump means a dead General Lee.

[@wewuzvikangz4829]

"OH IF THE SOUTH WOUDA WON WE'D HAVE IT MADE, ID PROBABLY RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTHERN STATES,"

[@porchofgeese_crockpot]

Just no slavery and I'll vote for you

[@eddie-ns9ik]

Hank? Is that you?

[@phoenixman2518]

Ah I see your a man of culture as well

[@arcanegulo5441]

OH YAYER WE WUD VOTE FER YE TO! JUST GIT RID OF THEM DAM BOOK THANGS

[@haroldrupert4957]

Such interesting video documentary . Thanks for sharing .

[@promeneuzivotu117]

Confederacy:unites USA:delivers "democracy" Russia:🍿

[@exaid0556]

No. Russia would use chaos in USA to establish themselves as a power in Europe. Possibly recreate Soviet Union.

[@Oof_2nd]

@@exaid0556 Not the Soviet union but the territories of it. I'm sure Putin would not give up his power in favor of the communist.

[@exaid0556]

@@Oof_2nd well yeah.

[@promeneuzivotu117]

He would probobly take back former USSR states and claim them as Russian territory (insted of an union).

[@Hadahuda]

putin bought an ice cream today

[@Love2Cruise]

If a modern CSA emerges, you'd need to include all Republican-leaning states instead of just the original CSA states; and VA would probably flip to the US side.

[@ethancoster1324]

You've been following the Texas lawsuit haven't you?

[@monke2361]

TEXAS REPUBLIC NOW

[@sharynstover1823]

Not all republicans leaning states join Texas they where to spineless but 17 to 18 states joined Texas i will include alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, west Virginia, south Carolina, Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, olklahoma, Missouri, Nebraska, Indiana, north Dakota, south Dakota, Montana, kansas, utah,and the last to join is Arizona the others red states didn't join or where neutral hint Kentucky, ohio, Wyoming, Idaho, Iowa and others so i wouldn't expect them leave either they will probably stay in the union while the other 18 states that join Texas will

[@morrigankasa570]

Additionally various individuals from the other states would more easily be able to join them with modern connections that exist. Therefore adding a larger number of people to the army and civilian support.

[@JE-zl6uy]

@@monke2361 what would you call a new confederacy?

[@motnurky7055]

what if the entire earth could fit in five Toyota Corollas?

[@stevensnails1510]

Kai Lyman we would all suffocate, or the corolas would blow up.

[@PegasiJay]

Actually i think packing something the size of Earth into five Toyota Corollas would make it dense enough to form a black hole and swallow all of humanity into nothingness.

[@aturtledarkly5947]

Anime Cake no, the Earth's Schwarzchild Radius is about the size of a U.S. penny.

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Occupy Japan I guess?

[@tazmoir]

lmao

[@CanadianAvian]

*Civil War Part Two: Electric Boogaloo*

[@Mikek88]

I think a lot of states would maybe join the Confederacy but I know that Oklahoma and Kansas definitely would.

[@dwightmagnuson4298]

Yeah, give em Kansas.

[@samuelr.6046]

We would not, idk what parts of Kansas you've been but we're farmers not Dixie loving people.

[@awormnamedscoobis3419]

CallMe Samuel idk what part of kanas you live in,you dont know that shit.

[@corbin5941]

Oklahoma and Kentucky probabaly would, but defiently not kansas

[@gabrieleberle4422]

@@corbin5941 Nice Profile picture.

[@McGliga]

The thing is if the csa were to return today i assume some other states would be more willing to join it than stay as a part of the United States, states like Oklahoma, Kentucky and West Virginia, due to a cultural similarity closer to the CSA states than the USA states. Also, a lot of people don't like the US so if this were to happen, lots of other countries (Most notably China and Russia) would support the CSA just to significantly weaken the United States, which fixes the most crucial issue that the Confederacy of the 19th century had, which was the lack of allies. If CSA were to return today, i can't say with certainty who'd win that war, but it would be bloody and weaken both countries immensely

[@chickenofthecave1406]

McGliga You brought some interesting points that I didn't even think about. A civil war today would most likely end up being a world war again.

[@melanoma7220]

If the Confederacy were to win by the skin of their teeth, Mexico could probably swoop in and take back some of the states it lost. A prepped Confederacy might be able to take on Mexico but a weakened Confederacy that just barely endured a war with the Union and hasn't had time to recover would be ripe for the picking.

[@AtaSancaktar]

+Melanoma "might be" Mexico would be destroyed in two weeks by a prepped Confederacy.

[@roguishpaladin]

I don't think it would end up being a world war. Russia and China would happily but quietly contribute resources but they would not want to put boots on the ground. No one would want to openly get involved as an ally of the CSA, at least initially. Also, I think it would be more likely that China supports the USA. They would have a vested interest in a fast war that didn't overly disrupt their US investments and that left the west coast untouched. However, I feel like the question asked by the video is inaccurate. If a modern civil war were to occur, much of the midwest would go with the new CSA. It's very possible that only the northeast from Maryland up and the west coast out to Colorado end up being part of the USA at first. There would also be a great deal of internal resistance - Austin and Atlanta would not go quietly into a CSA and rural Maryland would absolutely want to go with the CSA while the beltway would resist.

[@AvecadoHD]

I agree, unlike in 1861 when the civil war was just a domestic issue it would be a world issue today and much like the Korean and Vietnam war, other countries may not officially join but would most certainly send supplies and volunteers to which every country fit their interest. Also due to the matter of nuclear weapons, this would be a major issue to the rest of the world, as either the union or confederacy get to use them against each other.

[@theabyssofthoughts]

After the capital riots, WHY IS THIS IN MY RECOMMENDED?!

[@samarthmittal7949]

I have the same doubt

[@jimboonie9885]

Lol literally no one would like the confederacy if it reunited today. It wouldn’t last a year

[@dinoxman8584]

@@jimboonie9885 I don’t think nobody would like it, but mostly not everyone.

[@texanman7191]

If this really happens, the middle part of the US will join the former Confederate states.

[@DanielRichards644]

@@jimboonie9885 the confederacy would be the north and Washington DC, thats where all the Racist Democrats are now, never forget that the Confederacy where the Democrats and Lincoln was a Republican.

[@TheTheoryOfEvrythingH]

Questions for Americans from a graduate historian from Europe! Do you think that the decision of the Constitutional Court that the Confederation did not have the right to secede is unfounded and corrupt and that the Confederation had that right, because we know that the Constitution does not prohibit it? (The court decision gave legitimacy to the North to attack the Confederacy) Do you think that the real reason for the removal of the Confederate flag by the establishment is to erase the history and idea of ​​that country? Do you think that life for the "ordinary man" in that country would be better today and that the influence of the establishment on people's lives would be felt less? Do you think that the north draws the resources of other republics, which can be seen in the lifestyle of the citizens? Do the former states of the confederation feel some kind of unity and belonging today, would they all still be a confederation if there was a division? Which all the states would give up to the confederation in addition to the old members? Do you think that every citizen and every federal state has a right to a referendum on remaining in the union and do all former members of the confederation have the right to a referendum and aspire to re-form the confederation? If that referendum were to happen, would the citizens of those states vote for the confederation? Do you think that a big initiative should be launched on the democratic right of every person and society to a referendum, so that the Americans could decide whether they want to serve the northern corporate establishment?

[@ghgfghgfdgf9728]

can you do what if every us state was an independent country like if you want him to do it

[@DannyOvox3]

Texas and california will dominate based off recent research about their economies, Texas being 1st and Cali coming a close second. GG

[@indiana7376]

I would destroy Michigan

[@bryce2082]

Indiana hell yeah we will!

[@d16024]

Daniel G. Cal will be first, then NY then TX ad then probably Illinois

[@hazy_thoughts]

Absolutely Nothing nah Texas would isolate it self since thier all a bunch of xenophobic imbreds

[@jimbascombe7707]

You forgot the fact that most of the US. Oil comes through the south. Mostly Texas and Louisiana. Cut that off and the Union would not have fuel to feed a war machine.

[@nickyeayea7257]

We have plenty of oil coming through here. Nuff said

[@JustafellowHuman54]

Canada has oil that can be shipped to the USA

[@chrisrose_krii_lun_aus]

Sorry but Alaska wins the oil debate. The South would have plenty for their use though. Oil would not have much of a affect on the outcome in the present day.

[@borz7893]

You're also forgetting that if the US wanted it could wreck the CSA's navy and gain control of the oil in the Gulf of Mexico

[@wolflee909]

The south is not the north and will never be anyday any time

[@americanoperator3147]

*Sherman resurrects* Sherman: I thought Georgia learned its lesson

[@gorestfump8935]

Sherman gets blasted by a shotgun of the first family he tries to pillage.

[@sae136]

Sherman has been dead for over 120 years he can't save you now

[@Asstronauts93]

oh i hope he burns down atl again! fuck that city

[@ooheeh2264]

Cr6479 better? SLAVERY? Are you stupid?

[@andrescd9327]

@@ooheeh2264 let him be, neo confederates are a lost cause in their level of stupidity.

[@booksteer7057]

If there was a break-up, Texas would go it alone. It was an independent country for 11 years after breaking away from Mexico, and a lot of Texans wish it had remained so. The new capitol of the Confederacy would be Atlanta. No one, not even most Floridians, would want the capitol in Tallahassee, capitol of the weirdest state in the nation.

[@elscorpioperfecto3260]

Anyone who thinks a Texit is gonna lead to Texas joining the Confederacy is very much misinformed. It’s not Texas joining a Union of states, it’s a bunch of areas joining Texas instead.

[@okbkcq]

During the Civil War, most of the area of present-day Oklahoma, was called the Indian Territory. The Five Civilized Tribes decided to support the Confederacy, and about 3500 Indians served in Confederate units. Two major Oklahoma units were the Confederate Indian Brigade and the Union Indian Home Guard.

[@marlarki5280]

Yes, because the Native Indians own plenty of slaves.

[@rationalbeing4928]

Most Blacks/Hispanics would Fight on the side of U.S.

[@noone3272]

@@rationalbeing4928 no. Most of the Hispanics live in the south

[@kenw9681]

@@marlarki5280 Probably it's because they didn't trust Washington and saw it eventually closing in on them like it always had, and actually did close in on them again after the Civil War ended.

[@SurgeryIsWoke]

@okbkcq that's why as a white conservative American I never understood why we get the brunt of racism allegations. As if Every Single race, ethnicity, political affiliation, and country Doesn't have racists- particularly a history of anti-black racism and profiting from African slavery. Like be half black in a First Nations tribe, Japan, really Anyplace Other than mainstream America and see where it gets you

[@morammofilmsph1540]

The Confederacy: **secedes again** Sherman: Looks like Atlanta's gonna be pretty hot this year...

[@jugendnacht9237]

AHAHAHAHA YOU WONT GET PAST THE FUCKING HILLS OF TENNESSEE! THIS ISNT 1860! SAY HELLO TO IEDs ON YOUR WAY TO MCDONALDS URBANITE!

[@jacobmuraco4276]

Jugend Nacht the only thing that can stop Sherman is Sherman.

[@jugendnacht9237]

Quizlin Saxophone Academy that’s exactly the attitude! You send the Yankees and we’ll send you the coffins, nails and all!

[@jacobmuraco4276]

Jugend Nacht well whether or not you have leftover coffins really depends on how far Sherman gets

[@jugendnacht9237]

Quizlin Saxophone Academy enjoy occupying Dixiestan

[@justincrady]

Missouri, Kentucky, Oklahoma would join the Confederate States of America. Guaranteed!

[@cram4676]

Kansas?

[@justincrady]

@@cram4676 I doubt it lol

[@FroppyVA]

Puff 'n' sting enthusiast Kansas was a free state

[@cram4676]

@@FroppyVA Sorry i don't know much about american history

[@FroppyVA]

Puff 'n' sting enthusiast it said that Kansas was entered as a free state by the Kansas-Nebraska Act. The act said they let the citizens decide if their state would allow slavery or not I studied that I’m sorry you don’t that’s what it said on my Social Studies If the Confederacy reunited today Kansas will stay with the United States

[@ldfoggy2k453]

Calling it if it does happen Oklahoma, West Virginia, New Mexico, and Kentucky will join so he should’ve thought of that possibility

[@QBAN2010]

Your are making a huge assumption that the CSA would stay the same. I could see OK, KY, WV and Missouri joining. That would balance things considerably!

[@MayoFilms83]

Maybe Ohio as well Confederacy wanted that state as well. If the slaves there didn't take up arms they would have been captured.

[@Treekicker]

This is all just assumption anyway. It will never happen regardless. There would never be a clean break in the armed forces with how its command structure is. Also malcontent would be shutdown hard.

[@MayoFilms83]

@@Treekicker right and there isn't a cause for us to fight each other for today anyways. So it would be really pointless to have another one.

[@masonpyle5929]

West Virginia has a chance of staying loyal to the Union. Since it basically only exists because of disagreements with Virginia.

[@keesdriesen9256]

What about Oklahoma?

[@Sergeant_Sparky]

CSA: *Reforms* All of Europe: *Sends alliance treaty to CSA*

[@Phoenix_The_HeroHater]

PolandballAnimations oof

[@blitzkrupp8583]

What if Abraham Lincoln wake up

[@Joesolo13]

ahahahaha No After Brexit the last thing they want to encourage is leaving

[@afatpigeon1]

Ha lol Texas finally takes Britain up on that alliance treaty from 200 years ago

[@M4D_F0XTR0T]

*Abraham Lincoln has woke up from his sleep* who dared to summon me?!

[@markbunn8576]

If there were another war i believe it would be conservative vs liberal rather than north vs south. With that said most southern states would be on the conservative side along with several midwestern rural states. Which means the conservatives would control much of the food and oil production.

[@garrettfornea1088]

History Rambler Mark Don’t forget the Mountain West.

[@sp5072]

Except that mexico would likely side with the liberals and that Russia (nice ally there) would likely side with the conservatives given that you two think so much alike. So yes, the liberal side would have food and guns

[@ChrisGilliamOffGrid]

Xmane310 Funny thing is, who gets decide what is a liberal? I hear that term applied to anyone that some bible thumper doesn't like. And let's be honest, both sides love big government, so why would I want to live in a nation controlled by either?

[@spacetime269]

History Rambler Mark good luck taking Nevada, Oregon, Washington, California, and retaking Idaho when it falls without support due to the issues of mountain supply lines.

[@douglaskrueger3755]

More importantly, the CSA would control New Orleans and the Mississippi River! This is of huge strategic and geopolitical importance with regard to supplying oil and just about everything else to the US heartland.

[@TOFKAS01]

„When first the South, to fury fanned Arose and broke the Union's chain, There was the Charter, the Charter of the land, And Mr Davis sang this strain: Rule Slaveownia! Slaveownia rules and raves, ‚Christians ever, ever, ever shall have slaves‘.“ This, to the music of "Rule britania" could be a matching anthem for such a country.

[@alessandropia257]

The title actually should be "what if the confederacy reborns today?" Because actually those states are already united

[@theq4602]

Hell yeah.

[@bsp5689]

United in stupidity

[@alessandropia257]

Ok for who hadn't understood I meant that this states are already technically united because they are in united states and leaving them would just mean remain united but in another way, I'm not even american or something and didn't understand when some people told me that I was right because they were people like secessionists or something

[@alessandropia257]

@Tommy ! What the

[@derekrequiem4359]

@Tommy ! Only problem with that statement is that the majority of the fatties dwell in the southern states.

[@obscurity6558]

US: The most likely cause for another war are tensions in the Far East RRL: Think again!

[@ElonMusk-gw6le]

The capital should be in sc the FRIST state in csa

[@briansheehan3430]

You mean Columbia which was half-burnt to the ground during the war?

[@josephujoostaa4462]

Obscurity North Korea?

[@mjag2834]

Atlantica (North Eastern Americas) = Capitalist democracy, welfare volunteerianism and feminism. Pacifica (North Western Americas) : technocratic republican beaureacracy, welfare conscription and monetarianism. Fraternal Freemasonry.

[@o7016-c7i]

pretty sure the us is the most likely candidate to start another war

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1261]

Confederacy: *Reunites* USA: I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move

[@someonerandomlol1752]

0:48 WV actually was part of VA at the time, then broke off halfway

[@ConnorOfDestruction]

This is a bit of a false premise considering that if the former confederate states seceded more than likely it would be a republican vs democratic secession as opposed to a "south vs everyone" secession

[@jaushuagrahamthefloridaman1124]

I mean bet tbh, we are conservatives yes but we are southern *FAAAAAAR* more

[@Random_UserName4269]

Nah. Because we saw that play out in the capitol riot. 0 democrats supported that. 0 independents. 0 rando parties. And only a small subsections of republicans supported that. That type of civil war would be over before it started, ripping the Republican Party into splinters.

[@ConnorOfDestruction]

@@Random_UserName4269 yeah man, you're right, transpolyotherkin are so popular with the right wing that people on the right will totally side with the Democrats because of them

[@Random_UserName4269]

@@ConnorOfDestruction it’s siding with America. Like the last time around... the North was America. And the south was a breakaway state. I’m a southerner technically and personally grew up glorying Lee. Even Lee didn’t want to break away from the Union... and nobody really cares about their state anymore.

[@Random_UserName4269]

Also, going against the union now would lead to a complete disintegration of western culture. Do you think you have problems living with Democrats more... or the Chinese government more... we need more unity now... there are a fuck ton of Chinese people.

[@olgabojkova875]

What if England is a city

[@gelko2676]

It's collar would stay popping

[@officerchad1213]

The US would still be shitty and England would be Litty

[@moonong2347]

It is. England is a city in the U.S.

[@bazzam9217]

I would sooner be linked with our cousins from the USA than being linked with Europe. Amazing video once again. The size and economy of the US is huge! I was in Portsmouth last weekend and saw the impressive USS George W H Bush. Amazing to see. 🇬🇧 and 🇺🇸 always be side by side 👊🏻

[@beardedbastard4748]

+Preston Zhukov yeah thats why America has a military 10x larger than yours

[@tylerresnick2480]

Modern confederacy would probably include Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, Kentucky, Missouri, and West Virginia

[@Bigbassdrum60]

For Sure. I am a Show Me State citizen and would easily back any move to that side of the split.

[@brians7181]

and Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, , Nebreska, Kansas, probably the dakotas half of Colorado and Montana. The Union would get Illinois, California, Washington and Oregon

[@AngelloDelNorte]

@@brians7181 I'm a CA born but I would support the confederacy. Mainly because libs tend to ruin stats and make the rich to have more qualities (irony) and middle-class mix up with lack of environment qualities, thugs, homeless, drug dealers etc...

[@wernercaspary7159]

And the South would have the best beaches 🏖 the best BBQ 🍖 the best orange juice 🍊 the best fishing 🐟 the best party 🎷🎺 Mardi Grass. Cheers to the South 🍻 Greetings from Germany...🍺🖐

[@dadumbdum1600]

The south doesnt have the best fishong

[@dadumbdum1600]

The north has better fishing in pretty much msot things

[@crusader7659]

What about Kentucky, Missouri, Oklahoma, Arizona, and/or New Mexico? All of those were in the Confederacy to varying degrees.

[@doniphan72ify]

Crusader ... Yep I commented about Missouri and Kentucky on this video too . Missouri was called the 12th star of the Confederacy and Kentucky was called the 13th star . People really need to study real history better instead of throwing together partially correct videos

[@noahweathersby2413]

It's highly unrealistic that Missouri would join the Confederacy.

[@doniphan72ify]

noah weathersby ... Well I'm not sure why you say that but they did . They were invaded by General Nathaniel Lyon and seceded the union in late 1861 because of it . Look up Missouri's sececession from the union document on Google . Before sececession they were ushered in to the Confederate States of America . This can all be found on the internet , so that makes arguing on a KZbin video unnecessary...unless of course you're just an argumentative person .

[@crusader7659]

Yeah, part of my family lived in and fought for the Confederate State of Missouri (I'm so American that the last country my ancestors immigrated from was the Confederacy). It is really the same thing with Kentucky, although a little less obvious.

[@noahweathersby2413]

I am from Missouri as well. If you want to be very technical, the governor did declare that Missouri succeeded from the union after the invasion. This, however, did not hold any sway in the actual state of Missouri because the governor had no power within the state once the governor was exiled from Jefferson City. If you want to look at modern day Missouri: the population of St Louis, Columbia, and Kansas City would be too large for the state to actually separate from the Union. If anything it would be like back then where the state government (the legitimate one that had power, not the Confederate state government) would oppose succession but would not want to get involved in the fight against the Confederacy.

[@jacobcorrell7833]

Good video, but your assuming that it would be just the original confederate states. I'm sure that there would be other states that would side with a modern Confederacy.

[@L-mo]

Jacob Correll you are *sure* are you? Ok, that settles it. Scrap the video!

[@keynight7513]

There would probably be confederate states that would side with the union as well. Florida, Tennessee, and Texas's governers have a very different view of governmental role than the confederacy. And I think you have mistaken just how terrible the government of the confederacy was. The government was so small, it couldn't pass any taxation to feed their soldiers, let alone build road, infrastructure, and let alone there terrible, stand-still economy lmao. No rational politician would side with a government similar to the confederacy.

[@scottgeorge5571]

kEy NiGht it’s a what if video chill

[@tallulahahrens-siegel9832]

And vice versa

[@paulray6419]

@Mark Lanzarotta and your calling other ppl racist???

[@Natty10272]

Definitely I think more states would join the Confederate states, states could be split or could be scattered

[@Natty10272]

@Edmond Schwab Middle of Delaware and some of Southern Delaware to maybe, west Virginia, that's all I can think of

[@hayrayisfresh]

Nope. Lol that’s not how it works. You would be separating yourself from the north who are allied with other countries... and Mexico.. along with Canada. I give the modern confederacy a month before they gave up.

[@RazeEbb7]

Having lived all over the country I am of the very strong opinion that many western and Midwestern states would definitely join a new confederacy. Other factors to consider from experience as a tradesman and prior service military person are that a new confederacy would be more left vs right politically than anything else meaning that though home states along place military personnel at nearly even in numbers, military personnel in general (around 70%+) are right wing or leaning as are the vast majority of skilled tradespeople. The same is easily said for the vast majority of hunters, law enforcement personnel, lawful firearms owners and those in the agricultural field. Now consider if you will a 2/3 majority with most of the military training and experience, familiarity with and readily available firearms, outdoor skills, experience with camouflage techniques, experience with stalking techniques, skilled laborers and those who supply almost all of the food to the entire country VS an outnumbered, unskilled, under supplied, inexperienced and mostly untrained force. Maybe I’m wrong but I doubt it.

[@keesdriesen9256]

Oklahoma would probably separate into North and South with the North joining the Unionacy and the South joining the Confederacy.

[@Natty10272]

@@keesdriesen9256 same with my state. The northern part would be the union, the middle and some southern part of it would probably join the Confederates

[@epa316]

It would depend on the reasons for re-forming the CSA and seceding. My instinct now would be to remain in the United States, but if there were compelling, convincing reasons... who knows. I suspect there would be a whole lot of U.S. sympathizers within the area of the CSA, who don't want to see the Union destroyed after over 200 years.

[@kaixiang5390]

Yeah, there’s no obvious compelling reason to secede and millions of economic reasons to stay

[@Diego1Morales]

Yeah, the US wouldn't be the global superpower it is today is the Union was split in two.

[@drelezar7745]

Texas causes terrifying background music to play: *huh sounds about right*

[@backgroundcharacter9495]

What does that say about me?

[@rjkennett934]

@@backgroundcharacter9495 It says you walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death like you own the place.

[@lukemorrell149]

confused why oklahoma, south arizona and new mexico, kentucky, and missouri arent a part of the csa

[@WWIIrblx]

Luke Morrell exactly

[@Arkansan_Rebel]

Using his context of back then, Missouri would be a border state along with Kyntucky, West Virginia, Maryland and Delaware. As there were Pro-Union and Pro-Confederate governments in the states. IF we were to only use the original states as he said in the video.

[@kevinloving5688]

Luke Morrell Because the creator of this channel is a Liberal trying to say the South would lose again.

[@historynetwork7438]

Kevin Jackson Oklahoma was heavily union controlled to supervise the natives

[@tylerrules738]

Texas wouldn't help south other states in South and bible belt are poor they would be massacred like we should have the first time

[@low-qualityasmr2600]

Everyone be forgetting the Confederacy would be bigger today too

[@corban4133]

low-quality ASMR ?

[@savagediamonds1120]

@@corban4133 the states in this video werent the only confederate states back then

[@DexterBanks5555]

Who wants to do it all over agian?

[@tsdobbi]

Because you are just assuming red states would just automatically go to the confederacy. I highly doubt that would be the case. The reality is any new confederacy would probably be smaller than it was. Don't underestimate the power of people having a preference for maintaining their comfort level over putting themselves under hardship for some principle. People with money control the vote. I highly doubt a bunch of republicans, their trophy wives and cozy McMansions are going to put all that in jeopardy over "muh guns!" or whatever reason anyone would come up with to form a new confederacy. These aren't 19th century gentlemen that value honor and integrity above all else. If the USA banned private ownership of fire arms tomorrow the worst situation you would have is maybe some country bumpkin militias doing something. Nobody with any real power is going to give a shit.

[@savagediamonds1120]

@@Mudvillereacts ok and