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@air_fotos2 жыл бұрын
Finally getting that bag! Very deserved
@Gravelgratious2 жыл бұрын
@@air_fotos what's saddest to me is the if Arthur ran away with Mary he would have still died of TB.
@DedTodd6 ай бұрын
2:32 What's the guitar song playing in the back? I searched everywhere don't lemme down pls
@nothinghere73912 жыл бұрын
Man I love your writing. It's a shame you didn't mention the fact that, even after all that's happened, Mary finds the courage to visit Arthur’s gravestone, a grave that's put in the middle of nowhere, on a steep mountainside, miles away from her home. After all these years and hurt feelings, she still thought it was important to visit Arthur's grave and pay her respects to a man that was a perfect example of a good person caught in a bad men's world
@themadtitan76032 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see someone else point this out. Mary probably found out through a 3rd party about Arthur's passing and where he's buried, and even though it's been nearly a decade since she decided to she wants to move on from him, she still thought it was important that she go on a presumably long journey up a mountainside in Ambarino to give her "never-meant-to-be" love her final goodbye. The acting in this scene (supposedly performed by Roger Clark himself and not Julie Jesneck) is also very effective, as I could feel her sorely pondering on what could've been and how she likely imagined, even after she sent that last letter to him, that Arthur would've showed up on her doorstep; ready to finally move on from his outlaw life.
@ANNEKE19992 жыл бұрын
Funfact: Arthur's actor played that scene as Mary.
@channel458532 жыл бұрын
@@themadtitan7603 maybe Arthur, when they were dating, told her about where he would want to be buried if he passed and she looked for that.
@themadtitan76032 жыл бұрын
@@channel45853 That's a nice theory, imo. I think that Arthur would've preferred to been buried more west though.
@jabronisauce68332 жыл бұрын
Would like to think so she kind of owed him lol
@matthewjalovick2 жыл бұрын
I never made the connection between Mary’s words and Arthur’s command to John. Jeez. That just caused me to tear up. Beautiful.
@Dell-ol6hb2 жыл бұрын
Same wow
@burninsherman10372 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm sitting here watching these videos on Arthur's story, and tearing up at every one. I look at Arthur, and minus the murder, I see myself to a large extent; a kindred spirit, even though he's a fictional character. I see a man who's lost, and doesn't know what he can do to right all the wrongs in his life. He wants to make sure the people he loves are ok, and help as many people in need as possible, but he's never sure how to help himself, or if he even deserves it. Unlike Arthur, though, i don't have any kind of deadline that I can look at to atleast pretend I've got a chance to squeeze enough goodness into, even just on the small chance that maybe, just maybe it'll be enough to make up for all the fuckups, mistakes, regrets, and lost chances. A shot at redemption, whatever it even is. A chance to die knowing I'd done all I could, and finally made myself something close to a good man, a good person, who's worthy of the love and redemption I've never quite been able to grasp. Maybe, no matter how small the chance, in the end I'll be able to find it like Arthur did. I hope so, anyway.
@petertr20002 жыл бұрын
Not for me. Until he then went on to explain what happened to the ring. Then yeah, count me in.
@TheGreyGhost_of43rd Жыл бұрын
@@burninsherman1037 you seem to be in touch with yourself tho. Thats more than most people can say, your self awareness shines in just one comment. You got this brother
@batzkell44592 жыл бұрын
The entry is Arthur's journal following the receiving of Mary's last letter is what hit me most. A fantastic story of lost loss. Here's the entry for anyone curious; "Got a letter from Mary. What did I expect? What did I want? Weren't never meant to be, and never really was, and yet somehow, in the end, I discovered I had a heart because it was broken. Oh, you fool. You sad, deluded fool. Torn in two by different idea of who you were, and it turns out you weren't neither of them."
@vengeance14502 жыл бұрын
I think one of the saddest parts of RDR2 is how Arthur doesn't think he's a good person at all. He definitely is a good person, but it's like what Real Pixels said. He's a good person but the people who he's been with for 20 years makes him do bad stuff and he complies because that's all he knows. I see nobody mention this but even when Arthur and John were bad at times, it's Dutches fault, he raised and manipulated them for years, whereas other gang members were raised by others and joined the gang at a later time. I know Hosea raised them too, but since Dutch was the leader I feel like his influences rubbed off more than Hoseas did. But in the end Arthur broke free of Dutched manipulation and him thinking he owes everything to the gang. Red Dead Redemption 2 definitely has the best story out of any media in my opinon, you can look so deep and analyze any side story or cutscene in this game for hours.
@themoike_prod2 жыл бұрын
@@vengeance1450 you defecated through a sunroof bruh
@thecowboy96982 жыл бұрын
I remember reading that. I think the reason why Arthur was so lost is because he never knew who he truly was. He knew the life he'd been raised by, but he had a conscience, unlike most of the men he ran with, and so he was always at odds with himself. That's why he could never decide for himself what he wanted. He was in a world where he could definitely hold his own, but not one he truly belonged in.
@Broomer52 Жыл бұрын
@@vengeance1450 the thing most fascinating to me about Arthur is that everyone can see who Arthur is better than himself. A few people in camp including Hosea mention how smart Arthur is despite Arthur thinking he’s an idiot, Hosea even once telling him to cut the dumb muscle act. Arthur has beautiful hand writing and is an talented artist and writer, something people also like to tell him. He’s a kind, smart and talented man who doesn’t think he’s any of those things and is fine lowering himself to a place many think he’s better than.
@theoutsiderjess1869 Жыл бұрын
@@Broomer52 Arthur is one of the smartest members of the gamg and he didn't see it until he was dying that is when he saw who and what he is clearly
@noamias48972 жыл бұрын
Arthur and Mary's relationship is one of the most realistic relationships I've seen in a love story, and the fact that it's such a small yet huge part of the game at the same time is incredible. It's very misunderstood online, with people telling Arthur to forget her when for almost any real life person it would be impossible for him to do so. I really appreciate this quest line, and always look forward to it in every play through. Side note: Roger Clark stated that it was only meant to be a single quest at first, but Rockstar liked their chemistry so much that they decided to make it a bigger part of the game. Thank goodness for that.
@noamias48972 жыл бұрын
You can also tell Arthur feels insecure in the saint denis mission, which is why I think he acts so funnily yet rudely to the stableboy who says he can't stand there. To feel in control, even when he has to prove himself to Mary.
@tyson_beast13952 жыл бұрын
I hate Mary. I don’t know why, I think it’s because I feel like she is just using Arthur to get what she wants.
@davidfraher12922 жыл бұрын
@@tyson_beast1395 She did used Arthur and it sad cause Mary wasn’t the only one but Arthur keeps coming back Abilgal is just as bad and it why he didn’t like John in the beginning and the only other person that really liked Arthur but it a little too late cause of illness and her lost is Sadie but unlike Mary Sadie actually cared for Arthur
@justice_of_Youtube2 жыл бұрын
@@davidfraher1292 mary cared too
@thecowboy96982 жыл бұрын
@@davidfraher1292 - Agreed, Sadie did care, and I you listen to dialogue missions after Arthur gets his diagnosis, as well as side conversations, she's the first one to notice Arthur isn't doing well, and is the one that expresses the most outward concern for him. And while I unfortunately know too well Arthur's feelings about Mary, as in "the one that got away", it doesn't change the fact that life goes on, and there are plenty other girls out there, and I wish they'd have given Arthur a 2nd love interest in the game, like they were planning to do originally before scrapping the idea, to illustrate that fact of life. Shit happens, sometimes it's your fault, sometimes it's due to circumstances beyond your control, and sometimes there's nothing you can do about it, but you can choose what you do afterward. And as long as you keep longing over the past, you'll miss the opportunities in the now, and will end up never having a future. Cant change the past, the future isn't written yet, so it's what you do NOW is what makes a difference.
@Ddgolem1210 ай бұрын
I always thought Arthur decided to help John escape because he saw a lot of himself and Mary in John and Abigail. Arthur wanted them to have the life that he never got to have with Mary and that made those last couple of chapters all the more touching to me.
@tjbarke60862 жыл бұрын
That scene early on in the saloon in Valentine with Lenny, when Lenny asks Arthur why he never married, and Arthur says "No one would have me..." hits hard when you think about Arthur's history. This is a damaged man that believes he doesn't deserve love.
@CatchTheMarmosets Жыл бұрын
Btw in that mission after the fight with tommy just before trelawny arrives you see her leaving heading towards the hotel shes staying in
@DEVS_VLTIMA Жыл бұрын
He’s just like me fr
@konohamaru776 ай бұрын
I remember everytime i rent hotel room in valentine, and go to mirror he would say that to his reflection
@procastination_is_my_passi41825 ай бұрын
I think Mary did (and does) want him, but Mary wasn't raised in the life that Arthur lives and refuses to abandon. Not only that, from the few interactions we have with her family, she seems to be the glue that holds them all together, which is probably why she can't leave, even when she expressed her desire to run away with arthur many years ago. She has to hold her family and her life together
@slyaspie49342 жыл бұрын
This storyline broke my heart playing it, having had a relationship that broke down for similar reasons of unwillingness to change and just being in different places of our lives at the time, we loved each other but sometimes that's just not enough. When Mary asks Arthur to run away with her I was shouting at him to do it, you can already see the gang is falling apart, Dutch is getting worse with the rat Micah whispering in his ear, you know he should go but you also understand why he won't. It'd be great to be able to end the game there as a sort of secret ending (like far cry 4) Anyway great video as always good to see some attention put on this as it's so often overlooked
@deadpaxred2 жыл бұрын
I've made a video Arthur ran away with Mary because I admire them
@FGTRTD242 жыл бұрын
You used to be a lawless cowboy with TB?
@XanderJones552 жыл бұрын
It's very sobering to think that even if Arthur had made the hard choice to run away, their love was still doomed to end sooner than it should, and Mary would be a double widow. When Arthur writes that maybe he should have married Abigail instead or pursuing Mary, it kind of sinks in that John Marston kind of lives out Arthur's missed alternate path. "We are doomed, we are doomed/ We are born to be entombed / We are doomed doomed/ doomed doomed doomed"
@shanem86252 жыл бұрын
I feel like he would end up like Tommy from Mafia 1
@themadtitan76032 жыл бұрын
Arthur and Mary's story is the single most beautifully tragic aspect of RDR2 imo. Out of all the emotional moments in its the game's long and epic story, the trolley station scene where Mary tells Arthur to run away with her and forget everything affected me the most. Because we were at a crossroads, both in their relationship and the story, with Arthur given a choice between running away with his long-lost love or staying loyal to the gang that he calls family but has been plagued by a recent string of bad luck and tragedy with a leader who's slowly but surely growing unstable. I always internally scream at the screen everytime I watch the scene for Arthur to leave with her, even if it means leaving the gang and betraying the loyalty that means so much to him if it means avoiding all the tragedy that was awaiting for him when he didn't take that trolley. It's a beautiful, melancholic and authentic portrayal of a "not-meant-to-be" relationship that unfortunately, often gets overlooked not only because it's a smaller subplot that plays out over a series of optional missions, but because many fans are busy (unfairly imo) hating on Mary's character than recognizing the wonderful writing in their relationship and its importance to Arthur's arc. A disdain that I often feel is rooted out of the strong connection many players had with Arthur making them perceive Mary's actions as purely malicious manipulation, seemingly oblivious to both lovers clear longing for each other, and not anything she actually did wrong.
@wessel37552 жыл бұрын
you snap my dog out of existence
@stalfithrildi5366 Жыл бұрын
Entire game is full of people asking Arthur go do ridiculous mad shit and people venomously hate Mary for a couple of fetch quests
@themadtitan7603 Жыл бұрын
@@stalfithrildi5366 Exactly like a lot of the stranger characters. I think there's major bias as to why a lot of the fandom judges her despite not only simply asking to help find her brother and father, but doing so blindly and is understanding if you decline.
@fredericksmith79426 ай бұрын
@@stalfithrildi5366Fr she and the doctor in Rhodes are like the only two reasonable sidequest characters.
@Darrf2 жыл бұрын
When i heard Arthur say "I want to, more than anything i want to" for the first time, i started crying. I really enjoyed these three missions with Mary. And i think everyone can relate to their lovestory in one way or the other. Excellent video as always. Really impressive, deep-dive content.
@tigrispanthera54962 жыл бұрын
W
@aran41222 жыл бұрын
Three missions? Do you mean two?
@vengeance14502 жыл бұрын
I can't relate. I relate more to the line that Arthur say to Lenny in the bar, "No one would have me."
@twoface44582 жыл бұрын
When Arthur is telling John in Chapter 6 that he needs a "vacation", I like to think he means he wants to go back and patch things up with Mary
@isaiahwiita44742 жыл бұрын
I think it was a nod to what the doctor told him to do after he found out he had tuberculosis
@matejda912 жыл бұрын
One of the many reasons why RDR2 should be played at a relatively slow pace and that side missions deserve the player's attention. A great video reminder of this masterpiece from Rockstar. Thank you, Real Pixels! 😍
@drecarter69410 ай бұрын
Indeed . First play through didn’t kno shit ab this game . Low honor no missions then I found out he had TB .. I did side missions first and it’s funny cuz the side missions lead you to the main missions as if it was actually linear ..
@surygarcia68233 ай бұрын
@@drecarter694yep, the game can be played in a very linear way and it's quite enjoyable in that way
@Rod.Machado3 ай бұрын
Yeah, my first playthrough lasted a week, my second one lasted for 2months
@miguelcervantes47078 ай бұрын
3:42 I hate saying that I sound like a video game character, but what he says is what I know I’ve been a fool about before. So it hurts to think about even if I know that I should make the right choice.
@rhysandmike33739 ай бұрын
The fact she makes the trip up to Arthur's grave in the middle of nowhere, and wears widows weeds up to his gravesite as well. If Arthur had lived, and not got TB, I think he would have still left the gang after Beaver Hollow, might have even killed Micah. He would have went looking for Mary and possibly created the life John got Its a sad tale of love, and one most people can relate to Rockstar does storytelling better than a lot of movies
@nicholasobrien22 жыл бұрын
Arthur and Mary's relationship was my favorite thing about RDR2, their date scene in Saint Denis was one of the most memorable missions in the game for me, it was beautifully written and my favorite moment in the entire game was when John looked at the picture of Arthur and Mary when he took out the ring Arthur once gave Mary before he proposed to Abigail.
@vengeance14502 жыл бұрын
I also like how John says "A friend gave this to me many years ago" or something like that.
@maras38442 жыл бұрын
What Rockstar achieved here is impeccable, the feelings between Arthur and Mary are just to real, it reminds me of one of my relationships. She and I just didn’t meet during the right time. So Rockstar thank you from the bottom of my heart for creating this masterpiece but also fuck you from the bottom of my heart for reminding me of her and feeling like shit again. RDR2 will never stop to amaze me.
@Seraphatum Жыл бұрын
I feel you, brother.
@MoviesandGameslover2 жыл бұрын
This is why I question why so many people hate on Mary, when Arthur can ruin things between them too. The story of Mary and Arthur is the most realistic romance I've witnessed in a game. Pain defines both of them and that's what makes the story beautiful. This vid literally shows my thoughts and added to the beauty of their story.
@vengeance14502 жыл бұрын
I don't think most people actually hate her, it's kinda just a meme because it's so annoying how she pronounces Arthurs name.
@glockoholic2 жыл бұрын
@@vengeance1450 oh arthur
@KadeejiaDenise Жыл бұрын
@Vengeance I've seen people actually say they hate her. Even in the comments here. A lot of people let social media (caring about or helping women in any capacity is simping now 🙄) and never having a real relationship decide how they feel about others' relationships. People feel like she used him based on Arthur's first angry response to her and decided that quick she was using him.
@MoviesandGameslover Жыл бұрын
@@KadeejiaDenise Tbh. What I think of the Mary missions is Mary's way of getting close with, Arthur, while struggling to express what she feels ( Same with Arthur). But when they finally admitted what they feel, it was too late.
@KadeejiaDenise Жыл бұрын
@Renzo David I agree. It was pretty clear they both wanted to be together but couldn't. I kinda got the feeling that they wouldn't have worked anyway because they'd outgrown and/or didn't really know each other anymore. The line about her telling Arthur sarcasm was beneath him let me know he's a diff person than who she knew lol. It was like a holding on to the past even though it's over thing which fits the theme of the game.
@danielvictor32622 жыл бұрын
One thing that relates to me the most (and perhaps one of the most misunderstood aspects of why Mary is unable to be with Arthur) is that she KNOWS it will worry her too much if they both live together in the gang's lifestyle. It's not that she is of the "higher social status" that she doesn't want to be with Arthur, much less so on being concerned on her own safety; it's knowing that every time Arthur rides out there is a probability of him being caught up in danger or even death. Imagine if she did decide to run away with the gang to live with Arthur, waiting at the camp nervous to death if Arthur would come back or not (Just look at what it did to Abigail). She does NOT want that kind of life, and her reluctance in living with Arthur in the camp makes sense. This relates to me as I have been in a long distance relationship with someone whose safety and well-being I worry too much even with faster communication. Now imagine being in that situation in the old days with the only way to make sure if your loved ones are safe is through days worth of snail mail. She *LOVES* Arthur and *desires* to be with him, but she *HATES* and *FEARS* what it would do to them and their relationship.
@TAP_Hex Жыл бұрын
💯
@succanegg40902 жыл бұрын
This part of Red Dead Redemption's story broke a part of me. It hit so many beats that I heavily related and still relate to. Losing a girl like that really hurt, and despite trying to move on we still found ourselves talking to one another once again. I do hope that things turn out the way I want to, but I'll have to remain realistic with things. "I feel like the luckiest man alive.. and I feel like a fool. That woman confuses me and plays me like a fiddle like no one else alive.." "..I trust I will not make a godawful fool of myself once more, but somehow I imagine I shall.."
@succanegg4090 Жыл бұрын
Update to anyone who finds this comment, I got her back. 😌
@drinkwater7393 Жыл бұрын
@@succanegg4090 pray for me, partner
@danielvictor3262 Жыл бұрын
@@succanegg4090 this made my day bro I hope you and her are living your best lives
@mundanephysics5212 жыл бұрын
I've seen Mary get a lot of flack for how her relationship with Arthur goes in the game, but they were honestly never going to work out. Arthur was born in raised in the gang, and Mary couldn't live the outlaw life with him. Arthur just couldn't bring himself to live his life behind, and it's unfortunate it cost his life, but he had to do his best for those who remained in the gang that were still on his side.
@Jason.Goldstriker2 жыл бұрын
He was Dying of tuberculosis and by the time Mari was asking him to run away with her I had over 5K in my pocket it wasn’t a money problem thats for sure
@mundanephysics5212 жыл бұрын
@@Jason.Goldstriker It wasn't ever for money for Arthur, as we can tell he doesn't care for it at all in most of the honorable content you do. He stayed for the gang members he couldn't leave and wanted to get into a better place like John and his family, Sadie, Charles, and all the other gang members he grew close with through the years.
@procastination_is_my_passi41825 ай бұрын
Ikr, the hate Mary gets is so forced. Players really expect her to drop everything and join a gang for Arthur? And why would you want her to do that anyways lmaoo look at how it turned out for abigail, jack and john. And even when she did express that she wanted to run away with Arthur years ago, she's the one person gluing her family together and clearly has responsibilities to her younger brother and her gambling, booze addict of a father that she took upon herself after her mother's death. I think if anything, Arthur's loyalty to his gang was his downfall and he would have been a great husband and father, had he actually attempted to settle down and live decently with Mary. But these two just lived very different lives, but the fact that somehow their hearts still connected is still beautiful even with such a sad ending
@Elibel77 Жыл бұрын
I cried for these two more than I care to admit. This is way more that just a game. It sets new standards of writing, research, character development. You described Mary's vulnerability very well, and her agency in the final outcome of this is MILES away from how women are portrayed in many video games. I would have loved to know more about Arthur's psyche... I could spend minutes in his journal. This is a profound guy, in his own way.
@_KRose2 жыл бұрын
I remember tearing up a bit, when John took out the ring and briefly looked upon the photograph of Arthur and Mary together. Gaaaah, the story of this game was so good.
@craigkelleher57152 жыл бұрын
Arthur's was killed because he was too busy being an outlaw and not there to protect them. Arthur lost Mary's love for the same reason. Arthur saving John is not just because he wants John to do better, but because he doesn't want John to make the mistakes Arthur already has.
@mariakiwi14282 жыл бұрын
Also, you can see the way the trauma of losing his family (Liza and Isaac) in the way he treats john’s decision of abandoning his own. So I have no doubt that he felt anxiety over the potential loss of Mary after they would get together.
@amandascribbles3002 жыл бұрын
I think Mary gets a lot of hate as a character, whereas a lot of fans pair Arthur with Sadie - but looking back on a woman's rights and way of life for the time, Mary had every right to secure herself a decent future marrying another man in the bids that she doesn't starve. There was such pressure on women in this time period to marry well so that their families can survive. It's the tale as old as time as forbidden love and in this world it wouldn't have worked with Arthur's unshaken loyalty to his gang. I don't necessary like Mary either, but I think she's so well written for a woman of her financial standing for the time period. Again the devs nailed this with historical accuracy! Mary-Beth actually says something similar that as a woman in this world, it's not easy and that's why she fell in with the Gang. Arthur and Sadie are written as soul equals as each other and as a woman, it is so refreshing to see a character such as Sadie be so strong and impressive in her own right, while not being the default love interest of the protagonist. It's also really refreshing to see such a strong and burly character such as Arthur, get flustered and be vulnerable. Mary is the only one who elicits this reaction from him.
@BlondieYouTube2 жыл бұрын
I also wrote a comment on this. A relationship between Sadie and Arthur would not work, because their friendship is made between the pain and sorrow they both go through, far from the naive and playful feeling for romantic love. Not to forget, that Sadie's husband has been murdered in front of her eyes, and the murderers kept her hostage for days in that cabin. Her heart is full of rage and pain, so she's not exactly just going to move over and forget. They respect one another, but a romance? Nope, no way.
@thebulletkin83932 жыл бұрын
I never saw Sadie and Arthur as being a potential love interest, granted that’s never what I look for in games as lovey dovey stuff isn’t my thing, but the impression that I got was that Sadie would only be happy living by herself as she does in the epilogue
@chineseobama60432 жыл бұрын
@@BlondieKZbin always hated the idea of a relationship with the two, also even further Sadie still stays active in bounty hunting which isn't a safe job while Arthur if he ever had survived would have preferred to live it low. He can't have a relationship while in the gang with anybody because it puts them in danger and it could turn out to be like what happened to his son Isaac
@thebaconlard55112 жыл бұрын
Mary takes advantage of Arthur’s vulnerability
@devinmes18682 жыл бұрын
There is nothing impressive or refreshing about the way Sadie is written. She is a Mary Sue whose only flaws end up turning into benefits for the gang or they simply aren't called out. Frankly, she's a massive contrast to everyone else in the game, because she constantly breaks the realism the game tries to hard to push by often being the smartest and most competent in a gang where she hasn't had nearly as much experience as the others.
@deletedwaffles2 жыл бұрын
This one tugged at my heartstrings. I felt it. I've been in something similar to this relationship and you never really get over the sorrow of being with a person that knows you're meant to be with them but can't follow you into a world that's not theirs.
@redt83112 жыл бұрын
⚠️Vary Long comment about Jack Marston’s game justification and story. Arthur said “revenge is fools game”, Jack took revenge on a very high ranked and decorated federal agent. While canonically speaking 3 people are alive who could point fingers in Jack’s direction. Rdr3 as in “red dead redemption 3” must happen with the Jack he’s the last piece in this whole revenge cycle. 1. World War I does not really mean anything to the United States until April 1917 when we get involved and soon after that we start drafting. We have a few years to work with for Jack’s Western adventures. 1914,1915,1916, and part of 1917 2. If historical accuracy is the problem well by most estimates that I’ve seen many historians consider the end of the wild west to be around 1890 to about 1895. So by that view rdr2 and rdr1 are unrealistic technically given their time periods. Standard Wild West era is 1865-1895. So by that logic westerns shouldn’t touch the 1900s and definitely not dare touch the 1910s. As for 1899 well it’s in the late 1800s but still out of the standard timeline if we were playing by the rules of many standard Western timelines. 3. Rockstar operates under a different timeline giving the years they set their games, they seaming look at things from the perspective of “as long as horse travel is still normal, western stories happening is not ridiculous yet and not far out of the realm of believability”. So we can say Rockstars standard for the Wild West era factors with end of the horse era so 1865-1920ish. Which technically does make sense if horse travel is still normal especially in rural areas in the 1910s then criminals on horseback isn’t a far-fetched concept yet either. 4. Considering they literally made “Cowboys of the Caribbean” by making chapter 5 in Guarma I don’t think they’re that too concerned about keeping everything 100% strict on standard Wild West areas/adventures. So I don’t think using only *ONE* part of rdr3 being set overseas in World War I is that far-fetched of an idea for rockstar. 5. People think he “has no story to tell….” he shot a retired top brass FBI federal agent… then canonically speaking leaves 3 ppl alive who can point at jack. The agent that he first asked about where to find Edgar, along with Edgar‘s wife and brother are still alive. With the brother being the one who most likely finds the body after search for Edgar when he doesn’t return back to camp after a while. Then inevitably reports that to the police then news gets back to Blackwater quickly. Than the agent Jack first asked is going to give a statement about a young man late teens early 20’s was looking for him. Considering what happened to Jack’s dad a few years earlier is not ancient history to the Blackwater police force. The law will decide to go down to breachers hope to go see if Jack is home obviously he won’t be there. After a few weeks no sight of him returning home, then factoring in the the statements from the brother and the wife. The Government is going to assume that Jack is most likely the one who killed Edger because he has the biggest motive to wanna go after Edgar, with no alibi to suggest otherwise, and conveniently not at home. Also because we’re supposed to be starting to enter the modern age, killing cops especially Top brass federal agents is going to give Jack a hefty bounty and of course the law is not going to just let this go. *Boom Jack is on the run RDR 3 starts* 6. Another thing the redemption storyline does not give out free happy endings unearned. Jack will get his no doubt, but so many people believe he just killed Edgar and just got away with it. That is not how rockstar writes the redemption storyline you don’t just walk away Scott free with no repercussion. The redemption trilogy is about finding redemption in the eyes of law enforcement and or in the eyes of your peers/yourself. Set during end of the wild west era as the foundational background for the “Redemption” stories. I want Jack to have a happy ending, and I know he will rockstar won’t kill him off or leave him sitting in jail forever as the ending of RDR3. But his redemption at least in the eyes of the law must be earned not just handed freely while simultaneously being very inconsistent with what the theme of the redemption storyline is about. 7. “he lived and became an author the end ” several things questionable/ arguably wrong with that that. The one book that we see in Franklins house in GTA only proves *one* thing. He lived long enough to write a book and publish one that does *not* mean he got a happily ever after in terms of a long life/ peaceful one. I mean technically he could’ve wrote that book in the few years following John’s death as a way of coping with grief as far as we know. And had it published before his mom‘s death and his hunt for Edger… He could’ve died in World War 1, or died a wanted man for killing Edgar and most likely other crimes, we just don’t know for sure how Jack turned out…. One book only proves one book that he made exist and was published. Now do I think rockstar would kill jack off. Absolutely not I feel like that would be a terrible decision. “Somebody’s gotta make it” we already have 2 dead protagonist that many people loved it would just be beating a dead horse in my opinion to kill Jack and narratively unsatisfying. It would be a nice seeing in the end Arthur’s sacrifice than John’s sacrifice in the end all paved the way for Jack to be the one to make it, if he doesn’t live it would just feel like the whole story was for nothing Imo, if nobody from the Marston family lived in the end. All of this death all the sacrifices over the years all amounted to really nothing if he died too. But as I say Jack’s happy ending must be earned not just freely handed to him in order for it to really at least be kinda realistic and truly worthwhile conclusion to the redemption story that stayed true to the overall theme of the franchise. Plot wise rdr3 *Chapters 1-8* Jack goes on the run for killing Edgar Ross, shortly into his life as an outlaw he runs into “the last outlaw gang of the West” he joins up with them considering he knows on his own he’s not likely to last very long he doesn’t know how to go “on the run” John and Abigail tried to keep him away from that life as much as possible. After joining Jack and his new gang robs banks, trains, etc.. “standard wild West adventures”. 1914- middle 1917. *Epilogue 1* he gets captured by Archer Fordham in middle 1917, Along with a few of his gang buds Who are about his age. And because they’re all young man Their offered a deal in exchange for their freedom or not. “You gentlemen can choose to fight In ww1 if you survive you’ll be free men when you get back consider this your sentence, or you could choose not to fight and you can sit in prison for the rest of your lives or I can just hang you… your choice” obviously they choose to fight we play as Jack in World War I. *Epilogue 2* it’s November 1918 the war is over, Jack and his friends who made it go back to the states are declared as free men in the eyes of the law, Jack is officially redeemed. shortly after He Married his gf, Buys a new ranch to honor his parents, and starts writing the book “rdr”. *Final Act* 1919 jack’s been home and adjusting to “modern life” for 1 year. We see the ranch is doing well, he just finished his book, has two kids, his friends are also doing well they also live relatively close by to him. We last see Jack close the book he just finished, look at the pictures on the wall , we see his dad‘s old gang, and Jacks gang, picture of his squad mates from the war, solo picture of himself, and his parents and his new family. He kinda smiles Then stands up put on his dad‘s hat goes outside to go work around the ranch *The END* *Credits* shows Jack and his family over the years of their lives in the 1920s 30s 40s 50s… up until Jack is an old man. With a Heavy focus showing Jack’s Ranch Grow into a big business over the years, and he has several best selling books he wrote, also showing how his kids turned out, and life with his wife, and Nice moments with his old gang/war buds over the years. *Honorable mentions* Assuming none of John’s old gang members have anything to do with Jack story during the outlaw stage or when he’s overseas in the war. Might be a nice little nod to show clips of them in the credits scene “how they’re doing now”. Last time we saw them was 1907 be nice to check in to see what their life is like in 1919 at the true very end of the Wild West.
@debilman90652 жыл бұрын
I was hoping in 2019, we would be getting an el camino type story for Jack which would be about as long as a the tbogt campaign. Your story is decent though personally I feel like the first 8 chapters are a bit much in a period where the wild west was pretty much dead
@redt83112 жыл бұрын
@@debilman9065 yeah that’s reasonable 🤝. I was trying to stretch it out some by factoring in a Canadian wildernesses area and or Mexico for a few chapters. considering at least for Mexico it seemed like Abraham rayes became a bit of a dictator at the end of rdr1 I think I remember reading that one of the newspapers “new revolution starts up and more chaos and confusion starts up”. So there’s still is some significant wild most likely south of the border for Jack’s gang to go rob some banks maybe a train. With the law and military already spread thin as it is should be easy targets . As for Canada well even today most of that country is still wilderness, we could make a believable enough Western chapter up their robbing a couple of border towns perhaps. 2 or 3 chapters: either in Mexico or Canada perhaps both. 5 or 6 chapters: in the United States. epilogue 1: set overseas in the war Epilogue 2: back to the United States but in an area that was had no criminal past involving Jacks gang. So that way he has a true fresh start.
@flacobrian37542 жыл бұрын
for me I would love a game where in the beginning Jack lives in México fighting in the revolution with a fictionalized Pancho Villa/Emiliano Zapata, then years later when the fighting dies down he returns to the usa and then encounters fictionalized outlaws of Bonnie and Clyde, John Dillinger, Pretty Boy Floyd, Baby Face Nelson and other outlaws of the 1920s/1930s and robs banks in the midwest and can head to the desert states and rob trains and do other outlaw stuff, I don’t know any way the story could go that doesn’t copy Arthur and John’s story
@mrsspiritwolf2 жыл бұрын
@Red T i for one do not ever want to play as whiny jack marston, i killed rosse's wife and brother in red dead 1, hated jack when he was at pronghorn ranch and beechers hope, he is an ungrateful brat who never appreciated anything john did for him.
@jabronisauce68332 жыл бұрын
Realistically a person like that would've had many enemies and he wasn't important enough for anyone to come after Jack got it they'd likely rather sweep it under the rug and move on.
@Zghost2762 жыл бұрын
This is why I love RDR2. Most people think Arthur should’ve gotten with Sadie just because she was a gunslinger like him. But in real life there are so many more variables for loving a person, and sometimes it just doesn’t workout because life is complicated and full of variables. Just like Arthur and Mary’s love story
@JonJahren2 жыл бұрын
"Most people think Arthur should’ve gotten with Sadie just because she was a gunslinger like him." No, because Arthur and Sadie had actual chemistry, Mary and Arthur is so forced because that's what Rockstar wanted to force through, but throughout the game, they have no chemistry or no real relationship. Sadie liked Arthur for what he actually was, Mary wanted someone that looked like Arthur but wasn't him. She wanted a skinsuit Arthur that behaved nothing like him. To be honest, this is the first I've heard anyone actually enjoying or liking the romance between the two. It's stiff, boring and forced. The one time Sadie calls Arthur "honey" it has more weight and feeling than anything between Mary and Arthur. And I'll gladly die on that hill.
@Zghost2762 жыл бұрын
@@JonJahren Sadie loved her husband not Arthur
@JonJahren2 жыл бұрын
@@Zghost276 Are you mentally handicapped, unable to read or formulate a coherent thought? Because I made no such argument that she didn't. However, Sadie and Arthur have much better chemistry (well, they have chemistry, unlike Mary and Arthur) because Rockstar didn't try to force a romance, so the side effect is that they have a much more realistic and better relationship. Also, people can love two people, I know this is shocking to troglodytes like you, but widows and widowers have remarried. Especially in that time period where people were dropping like flies.
@vengeance14502 жыл бұрын
@@JonJahren How does Sadie have more chemistry with Arthur? Arthur and Mary definitely had more chemistry seeing they knew each other for years and were enganged, whereas Arthur and Sadie only knew each other for like 5 months. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean they don't and didn't have feelings for each other.
@vengeance14502 жыл бұрын
@@Zghost276 I think she did love Arthur. Maybe not in a romantic way but if they spent way more time together I think it would have evolved into love. It's just that during the game her husband only died like 5 months ago or whatever, but if they spent years together I feel like they would have maybe hit it off. I feel like she definitely had deep hidden feelings for him, but I don't think those feelings were mutual since Arthur still cared and thought about Mary.
@b.andrei84 Жыл бұрын
But the Mary love for Arthur never die, in the end credits we can see Mary visiting the Arthur grave, and maybe she take care of his grave.
@zklr972 жыл бұрын
15:32 That’s such an amazing point to give, if one person of the 7 billion on earth doesn’t want you in their life doesn’t mean you mean nothing
@TheMaggileinchen Жыл бұрын
Their Lovestory broke my heart. I didnt want their date to end. Wanted to take in every second they were breathing the same air. It was so tense. It even might have affected me more than Arthur's diagnosis. Because without love what is the meaning of life? But as you said: he did have love to give and did so at the end. And thats the most important thing.
@robertareis98598 ай бұрын
I've just watched this vídeo again. It is my favorite analysis about them.
@hayk30002 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful. I wasn't expecting it to be so well written and for you to start making a clear analysis of broken relationships. It feels that some of it was coming from the heart, and it certainly touched mine.
@mrobamatron48522 жыл бұрын
Everytime Real Pixels posts, I know I'm in for a beautiful video. Whether it's informative, emotional or simply opinions.
@josiahc41262 жыл бұрын
Damn! Those last few minutes of the video hit deep 😭. The whole love thing really gave me a new perspective on relationships and life. Thank you.
@twoface44582 жыл бұрын
Don't know if you'll read this Pixels, but just gotta say you are one of my favorite KZbinrs today. The sheer amount of detail, care, and heart you put into your content is always present, and its nice to see someone really putting in the work and care that the ever complex yet masterful story that is Red Dead Redemption 2 deserves.
@RealPixels2 жыл бұрын
That means a lot to me, thank you so much. 😊
@twoface44582 жыл бұрын
@@RealPixels "good luck out there,"
@SamSnoekBrown2 жыл бұрын
I've been awaiting the next chapter in your historical-accuracy videos, but I am so glad you made this video instead. The love stories (Arthur and Mary and, later, John and Abigail) were probably my favorite aspects of this game, not only on their own merits but also because they made this whole story about so much more than crime and violence-the love stories humanized everything else going on in the game and amped up the stakes tremendously. And while I've always loved how John used Arthur's ring to propose to Abigail, effectively closing the loop on Arthur's heartbreak, I'd never actually realized that his advice to John about running away were actually Mary's words to Arthur. That is so beautiful, and I'm so grateful you pointed it out! I also find myself thinking about Charlotte. That, too, felt like part of the love story here. I also thought she represented a second chance for Arthur, but one he already knew he was too far gone to take. By that point in the game Arthur is already disillusioned with his family, and there's a part of me that always wished he'd left the gang and settled down with Charlotte. But I also knew going in that he never could, not only because his TB was so advanced at that point and the climate where Charlotte lives was the LAST thing his lungs needed, but also because he needed to help John and Abigail. THEY were his true second chance, and in the high-honor ending, I've always felt that's what his sunrise represented: that he'd found not just peace but also a lasting love that live on in John and Abigail.
@TheMaggileinchen Жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I felt about Charlotte. It was also proof that after he started doing the "good thing" good things started coming to him too. Unfortunately it was too late.
@redharlow762 жыл бұрын
That point you made at the end hit me like a truck, and its one of the reasons why I adore this game. I’ll paraphrase for sake of simplicity but love does not die when a relationship ends, so long as individuals still have love to give to others. That point alone is everything.
@blake25212 жыл бұрын
I like how Mary only has 2 missions. Really shows the struggle. They have some sort of love for each other. But life moved on too fast and all she had left for a long while was a newspaper over a bank job where she didn’t even know he survived.
@gob71162 жыл бұрын
This plot line is one of the many reasons why the story is so great and resonates so well. You deserve so much more subs and this writing is great. It’s absolutely remarkable, both this video and this specific story line for how well it’s made and accurately portrayed. Although it resonates well, somehow it’s still hoped that there’s a will, there’s a way of some sort of closure or better ending as opposed to a more gloomy outlook on an ending.
@dakotahlayman93892 жыл бұрын
I am going through the breaking of an engagement right now, and this was all too real for me. This was an absolutely beautiful video essay and I cannot agree more. You've given me valuable perspective on my situation, and the man that I love, and why exactly we cannot make it work. Thank you.
@lumiya45962 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I love this game. It's just a video game and this is just one simple side quest, but after finishing the game, You cant help but think what if Arthur just left and went away with Mary. They both couldve had better lives probably. The impact this game has on me is why this is my favorite game forever. The main story, the Downes family story, the sister Calderon story, the charles chatenay story, the charlotte balfour story, the Hamish Sinclair story, etc. There's just a lot to relate to.
@danielvictor32622 жыл бұрын
"It found it's home; just as we will find ours" Beautiful.
@tacituskilgore12112 жыл бұрын
I never really viewed it all this way until I was confronted with a similar situation. The woman I loved. Love. Perhaps did not love me in kind, or perhaps this was just not the right time for her. Now I am faced with similar feelings of Arthur. I do indeed feel like a prize idiot. Though revisiting this love story, I realize that this isn't the end of it. As you yourself said, just because I was unable to give my love to her, and she was unable to accept it, does not mean I cannot give love to those around me. I have the pleasure and privilege to live far from the stress of modern society, and as such I find myself with a lot of free time to think and contemplate about my life up to this point. I think someday I will find a woman who can join me in this great adventure of life. Or perhaps in time the woman that I love will love me in kind. I am not sure but I will accept what comes my way, and deal with it as a man. Thank you Arthur Morgan. Sincerely, A fellow prize idiot
@SaimizZ2 жыл бұрын
What I find really creepy is when Arthur is kidnapped by Colm he says to him "Oh Arthur, I missed you" in the same way as Mary. I have no clue what that's supposed to mean but it feels so intentional
@JFK.Robot.Knight2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Colm searched through Arthur's satchel and read Mary's letter.
@ВладиславБулаев-л3э2 жыл бұрын
@@JFK.Robot.Knight wtf
@JFK.Robot.Knight2 жыл бұрын
@@ВладиславБулаев-л3э What? It's a plausible explanation.
@ВладиславБулаев-л3э2 жыл бұрын
@@JFK.Robot.Knight I just found this scenario bizarre, don't mention it. Could be some hidden connection though.
@lightm1019 Жыл бұрын
Lol it means that was not the first time he tort*red him before, nothing more 😂
@menanmate20062 жыл бұрын
Love the video as always. As someone who has just recently gone through a break up I find this video very relatable. I genuinely do think that unlike a lot of triple A games out there, red dead 2 is so insanely timeless and such a fantastic piece of art
@jimmy_johns96232 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best games ever man. I've never had a game that made me tear up before. This game made me do it several times.
@A-Berg2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how you basically described my current situation with my ex and gives me a whole new meaning to this game at the same time. Thank you! New sub for sure.
@Osama-Al-Ghufaily2 жыл бұрын
I came here to understand the story better, came out with a life lesson thank you.
@ninthdoctor79182 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile John and Abigail are arguing like a highschool couple.
@christopherflores65412 жыл бұрын
After the theatre and him putting her on the trolley almost made me break down crying
@wan_kkkkkk2 жыл бұрын
Every single video of this channel looks like a poem There's ever something to be learn in everyone of them Even if it is an information Or a life time lesson
@jgirdley932 жыл бұрын
Ive highly recommended and praised the content on this channel in the comments of other channels but not sure i have here sooo.. your videos on RDR2 are my favorite RDR media outside of the game. I have a long interest in history and love for RDR2 so these videos feel tailor made for me. Add to that the quality of narration, editing, historical context and detail and it becomes something better than I could have personally asked for. Top tier content, thanks.
@bullshark78882 жыл бұрын
That final scene with Arthur and Mary, when Arthur takes her hand in his and tells her "I want to.. more than anything I want to.." broke me from the inside. Because we knew deep down as badly as we want our favorite cowboy to be happy, in the end, he just won't get the happy ending he deserves. Even after doing so much good, he's doomed to die alone and this is the sad masterpiece of a tragedy that is Red Dead Redemption 2. That's why John and his family escaping and surviving meant so much to Arthur. He knew he couldn't get his happy ending before he either gets killed because of the gang or succumbs to TB. He knew he can never have a perfect family life so he instead worked himself to his last breath ensuring his best friend got the happy ending instead. This is why as he's dying on the top of the hill, Arthur may be in immense pain and his body failing him, but he doesn't have any regrets. And his last words reflect it perfectly, even though they're heartbreaking. "John made it.. he's the only one. The rest of us.. no. But.. I tried. In the end.. I did."
@SweetWitchNerd2 жыл бұрын
As of now I'm going through the grief of a breakup and this video made me cry because all you said is right, not only for Arthur and Mary's story, but for relationships in general, sometimes people just aren't compatible, or at least don't live compatible lives and even if they love each other deeply sometimes the best thing to do is for each to go their separate way, even if it's an unfathomably hard decision to make
@Marukomekun2 жыл бұрын
Your analysis of this game is second to none. Please don’t stop. This game is worthy of this
@wretch9514 Жыл бұрын
It was always puzzling to me how quite a few ppl in the rdr2 community hate Mary and didn’t do her missions claiming she’s using Arthur and doesn’t love him. When the evidence for their love is so clear, the letters, the journal entries and her suggesting they run away together.
@marshmallsy5 ай бұрын
This was such a deep and insightful analysis, I loved it! Whether someone likes or dislikes Mary as a character is their own business, but it's difficult for me to understand how they can think of her as some sort of manipulative woman who uses Arthur's feelings for her to get what she wants. I just recently finished my first playthrough of RDR2 and every time she was on the screen I was struck by how clearly in love she still is with Arthur, how it's both true that she's only contacting him because she's desperate but also because she still wants to see him, and how much it breaks her heart to give up on him for good. That last letter she sends is so unbelievably beautiful, and one of the things that sticks with me the most from this game: "I was just starting to dream the silliest and softest of dreams."
@gabrielbrennan41492 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen anyone mention this but Mary *Linton* is probably a reference to Wuthering Heights, an 1847 tragedy/romance novel. The book tells a story of Catherine Linton, who rejects marriage to Heathcliff because of his character and the shame it would bring her socially, even though she loves him deeply. Rockstar just doesn’t end with their attention to detail.
@thecowboy9698 Жыл бұрын
So I watched this, and if this video makes you remember perhaps a breakup you went through, as I know it did me, my advice is this: Whatever the cause was for the breakup, instead of trying to figure out whether it was you or them; because we all play the blame game to some extent, a better use of your time is to own your part - the part where you know you went wrong - because once you are able to recognize it, you'll be able to make changes in that area, so that when the next person comes along you won't repeat the same behavior with them, but you have to first make a diberate choice to correct that behavior, and then be dedicated to the solutions that will help do so. Don't expect them to come back, and whatever you do do not beg them to come back, don't plead with them, because all that will do is reaffirm in their mind that leaving you was the right decision. Just work on yourself and try to be the very best version of yourself that you can possibly be. And remember, it's better to lose and be a man, to retain your dignity, then it is to win and be essentially a little puppy dog.
@prestontylerjarvis2 жыл бұрын
Such a thoughtful video. Never seen anyone explore this facet of Arthur’s life from an honest and unbiased viewpoint. Most people have such a black and white view on his relationship with Mary. Great video again.
@noamias48972 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see another video from you, and I'm happy to see you being sponsored. Finally you get some financial recognition for your amazing videos. It's been a long time since I have actively waited for a KZbinr's videos but every month I look forward to seeing your next upload whether it's another historical analysis or a general video. When you did your RDR2 is perfect video you said this wouldn't become a RDR channel which I was disappointed by, but it seems you changed your mind which I for one appreciate (although your GTA IV and LA Noire videos are also awesome).
@RealPixels2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the very kind words! I definitely want to try and look at other games here and there, but there’s just so much for me to talk about with RDR2; I may have spoken too soon when I made that comment in that video. 😅 Glad you appreciate the content either way! 😊
@noamias48972 жыл бұрын
@@RealPixels Hey man I'm happy as long as you make videos. While I'm happy you're making RDR2 because it's my favorite game I'm sure you could make an interesting video about anything ur passionate about. I watch all your videos regardless so seeing a RDR2 upload in my sub feed just adds that extra amount of rush
@martillo_2 жыл бұрын
You deserve a whole lot more support my friend
@mrssnico55162 жыл бұрын
It's unreal how good writing makes every single moment in this game phenomenal, man just look, we don't know how mary and arthur meet each other and even the we feel the same drama that these two ate having in their lives even we never seen then before, realy is a masterpiece.
@AllieMeowy2 жыл бұрын
I loved the transition to the ad plug, that caught me off guard lol
@Thaicatlove2 жыл бұрын
These Two. Arthur and Mary. Their story is a true Heartbreak. I feel so strongly towards their chemistry. Love is that. Love is not enough. It was heartbreaking truly... Those Two reminds me of My first real love. Never stopped loving, Never. But can't Be together. Have to go on, have to move on, have to live...
@ThrottleJerk2 жыл бұрын
I been through the same story. Too stuck up in my ways. Our relationship was almost perfect but things happen, we moved at different paces. We saw each other one last time about a year and a half ago and it was kinda like this. She wanted me to change and i couldnt so she left and i cant blame her. The arthur and mary storyline hit a sensitive spot when i played the game for the first time. I try to separate myself from her as much as possible but everytime i come upon a picture of her it almost hurts
@FirstNameLastName-yw8er2 жыл бұрын
This masterfully displays the emotional connection and expression videos games can cause to their players. I’ve always thought that gaming is the best medium for exacting real emotion because unlike literature or film you get to decide what your character does. You can chose to help Mary or not which gives the action and what comes from it more personal weight to the character and to the player.
@shanefoster21322 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful summary and beautiful conclusion you made by connecting it to his actions and how they were enacted to save John and his family. Gave me a bit of the teary eye and warmed my heart. Thanks.
@Spongebrain97 Жыл бұрын
The moment that was sad to me in relation to Arthur and Mary is in the epilogue where John is planning on proposing to Abigail takes out a ring that Arthur orignally gave to Mary and alongside that is an old picture of Arthur and Mary when they were younger. How like that young romance died but the spirit of it carried on with the ring and moved to John and Abigail
@Leisloth2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insights on this! I loved the important message about love in general at the end of your video. As tragic as it is to realize the confinements of the world around oneself, it is important to not lose sight of the great love one can give to others. To realize ones own capacity to change the world into something better, however small this change might appear. These somehow hidden insights the story provides once and once again - truely a masterpiece.
@jayjay-gaming5362 Жыл бұрын
In my gameplay when I was going to meet Mary, I always give Arthur a haircut to look decent with level one middle back fade and a level two beard shave.
@davidgodfrey9780 Жыл бұрын
I relate so much to Arthur here, I drove my love away and I've missed her everyday since. Why couldnt I change and make her my priority? Why couldn't admit to my mistakes? I'm stuck here still hoping...... in vain. That she'll come back to me.
@jamarcushawkins9 ай бұрын
Arthur was a stand up dude he didnt try to play on the fact that mary lost her husband to get back in or manipulate her to think he was gon change he just went his own way
@taxiarhisglykas49725 ай бұрын
This video hits different after braking up with the love of your life... Especially the ending
@ETibbs112 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks for covering their relationship. I feel like it's an underrated aspect of the game, especially when you can choose not to help Mary and basically ignore it entirely. And based on their history, as is suggested in Mary's letters, Arthur is well within his rights to leave her be. You can understand if he was so hurt by her that he wouldn't want anything to do with her anymore, but it would still be poignant and tragic because, based on his journal entries, it's clear that he continues to love her anyway. So no matter what way you play the game's story, their relationship has a huge impact on Arthur's character and is all the better for it.
@ncrtrooper0845 Жыл бұрын
There's one thing that made me feel something and that is a cutscene where Mary is at Arthur's Grave and you can see that she's wearing her mothers brooch. The same one Arthur got back for Her.
@blacksfrommoon Жыл бұрын
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@MayaLinnea2 жыл бұрын
This made me tear up. Beautiful writing and an amazing video man.
@emaciatedFlower Жыл бұрын
Arthur and Johns love stories are amazing opposites. The fact that Arthur has a small resentment towards John at the beginning of the game makes sense since John ran away from Jack and Abigail who lived within the gang, meanwhile revealed later Arthur had a family and he found them dead, and with Mary she was unwilling to live the life of a outlaw with Arthur
@huckfinn28502 жыл бұрын
Two key love moments...Arthur trying to put an arm around Mary unsuccessfully. John being able to put an arm around Abigail. Arthur was less than an inch from caving in...however it would have been a selfish move. Arthur is not a selfish person...his loss of his own wife and child the family he had with gang members gave him a responsibility to protect and provide.
@LittleOrdahАй бұрын
The scene in the credits when Mary is at Arthur's grave. that broke me
@wizardpig022 жыл бұрын
I am glad I saw this video I recently broke up with someone after a three year relationship. And honestly this video helped a lot in just expressing how I feel and how my ex says she feels. While I am not a gun wielding outlaw, the reason for the split was very similar we each could not change enough for the other. I could not leave/say what I needed to say to my family and she did not bend/compromise her will to fit exactly how my mother wanted her. I am still in love with her and literally came to help her in the middle of the night without asking questions. However I want to change things and stand up for myself. I know I probably can’t get her back but I made a promise to her as a friend that I would do that for myself at the least. I hope that down the road maybe we can have a relationship again but I just don’t know. Sorry for rambling this video brought a lot out of me and really made me think about all of this stuff.
@deymstar Жыл бұрын
I cried when I realize Mary’s mission “We loved once and true” and “Fatherhood and other dream ” really interpreted Arthur’s eagerness to settle and have a family with her. During the last part of the mission when they discussed running away and Mary said “what a beautiful dream” (because she knew Arthur can’t just run away with her) really sets them on a single page. At that point during the game play I kind of anticipated that in the end arthur would say his goodbyes to John and Abigail to run away with Mary, this made the ending more painful because arthur died and he can’t have that with Mary. Makes me wonder if the empty ranch house near strawberry or valentine supposedly be Arthur and Mary’s house since it became available in the epilogue.
@robbo032 жыл бұрын
These videos speak to me on a different level bro. Fantastic work
@wimpyscissors43382 жыл бұрын
I'm crying. Just like every time I experience this story line. In my real life, I am that ex that's still in love. Years from now I doubt it'll be any different.
@joseybryant75772 жыл бұрын
15:02 That is such a glorious beard. Arthur must keep his guns in there. A small Derringer, perhaps.
@KINGCURTIS_YT2 жыл бұрын
Great video, a really sad part you missed tho was mary visiting Arthur's grave crying in the credits... Showing there may have still been something... However as usual awesome analysis nonetheless, always appreciate quality content
@tombombadilofficial Жыл бұрын
Mary gets a lot of flak because most people who hate her are immature gamers who never really got an idea what being an adult having adult issues are really like. No amount of video game cut scenes can experience for them what true love between two souls who live complete opposite lives is really like. Perhaps someday they’ll understand.
@meiner28292 жыл бұрын
Your channel is something else. You have the same amount of love for the game, as i do. Can't wait for more of your content. Thank you for you hard work on your every video. And with this video, you helped me to understand a very, very crucial thing in a relationship. Thank you again, life will be easier in the long run for me, when I'll comeback to this video. I do not know you personally but I have no doubt you are an extremely good person. You surely have a lot to give and even more to receive. You gave a lot to me, enjoyment from all your other videos and a very important advice by the end of this video. I am, once again, thankful. I hope, from the bottom of my heart, you are doing well and will post more.
@PhillipAndersenYouTube2 жыл бұрын
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@viooo-fw1xg Жыл бұрын
it was the situation called "right person in wrong time".
@sethwhalen56192 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. I recently had a relationship that ended for a similar reason, we were at two different points in our lives and I knew that it couldn’t work, as much as we both wanted it too. This is a great analysis and I see some of my own feelings in it
@Idk-og6cv2 жыл бұрын
10:19 "Runaway and don't look back" Arthur ends up saying that line to John when he tells John to leave the gang and then that line is the last thing John says to his family when Ross goes to kill John. The line changes slightly each time some one says it but the significance is still there
@daveallott34672 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude the only person left doing good rdr content
@gjte29472 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a unique, well made video
@adamdavisson46942 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you said at the end. One of the reasons I love this game so much is because I'm able to see myself and others in my life in it. Still looking for my Abigail 😂, but I'm thankful for my Mary. Thank you for your dedication to this game and it's stories.
@syedarizvi7290 Жыл бұрын
This was a beautiful video. Thank you so much!
@Buckshotyankee2 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are so in depth, they are amazing. Great job! And thank you for making them
@d.g.2052 жыл бұрын
15:24-15:57 This helped more than words can express, Thank You.
@ethanfrederiksen43272 жыл бұрын
Thank you, friend. That was a beautiful piece of work, and everything I needed to hear right now. Through your essay, life suddenly made a little sense to me, too.
@WalkBesideMe2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to think Mary got word of Arthur's death and instead traveled her way to that mountain top to see him one final time instead of of asking where he's buried (not that she'd have anyone to ask). She knew her Arthur, for better or worse.