Springbok Rugby - The Greatest Ever No. 8's

[@imerastrojerodiesel9393]

Que hermosos videos y recuerdos de jugadores que nunca vi y senti nombrar...!!!siempre me pregunto digo que si los Springboks hubiera juagdos los 80 y el mundial del 87 hubieran arrasado.... saludos desde Argentina.

[@catholicrugbyfan1635]

Thanks for the video..Morne du Plessis and Tommy Bedford.

[@nandoexpando]

Interested why some positions were Top 10 and some Top 5. Skinstad, Teichmann, Van Niekerk, very unlucky to miss out! Even Spies.

[@president6645]

Vermulan is the best springbok 8th man ever. Can do anything, be it carrying tackling, stealing which you can't say for Teichman.

[@rlsuth]

I still believe that if Morne Du Plessis had gone to NZ, instead of retiring, the Boks would have won that series.

[@mtnstrand2819]

I'm definitively with you there!

[@president6645]

Skinstad and Spies ,both ruck inspectors.

[@brettwilkinson9529]

Vermeulen is an absolute brilliant player.Best since Hennie Muller.

[@brettwalker8339]

Bobby Skinstad was a PRECOCIOUS TALENT!!!

[@zennor_man]

All were superb 8's. let's just revel in their greatness............go Boks

[@unondwayzauyashinga1735]

Preposterous not to include Gary Teichmann! He played with brains. Led SA to 17 consecutive test wins. Nick Mallet apologized for dropping him for the WC in 1999.

[@RealRugby]

It would be preposterous to include him in the top 5. He was a great player though

[@orical2832]

No Gary Teichmann? You're kidding???

[@RealRugby]

We don't kid with our videos... 😉. Its a matter of opinion at the end of the day

[@dawiebenjamin3249]

@@RealRugby as if

[@RealRugby]

@@dawiebenjamin3249 as if what?

[@nicolaasjansevanrensburg7543]

Orical- No Gary t????

[@henry-nr5np]

Morne du Plessis,, Bob Skinstad ,, Dwayne Vermeulen,,

[@mfp4136]

Gary Teichmann for me.

[@EnricoduPlessis]

Your point on this being a personal opinion accepted. However, I do tend to agree that Teichmann should be a part of the list, and judging by the comments, it would be interesting to know why you believe some of the others like Doug Hopwood or Daan Retief deserved a place ahead of him. As for Morne du Plessis, again, the same can be said although perhaps to a lesser extent. Both these guys were at the same time great leaders, Gary perhaps more so considering his record. Biggest mistake Mallet ever made was dropping Teichmann. To this day there are people who will find it difficult to forgive him for such an obvious coaching blunder.

[@RealRugby]

Enrico du Plessis At the end of the day, there can never be a definitive list of top 5 or top 10 players etc, although it does make for some good banter. It's always subjective and we as rugby fans will always have out favourites and preferences. I don't want this to come across the wrong way, but I've seen time and time again that rugby supporters' memories are quite short (in general). Which is fine I suppose, who would remember Daan Retief from the 1950s? Very few people. But then you read up on what was written about these giants of the game and you listen to people from a prior era to start understanding why these players are legends. Dr. Craven was always a good barometer of who were the best players, because he was well respected and always honest in his point of view. I also value the opinions of my dad, who knows more about rugby than anyone I know. Anyway, like I said, its always subjective. I loved Teichman and he was one of our greatest captains ever

[@EnricoduPlessis]

Thanks for the comment. I hear you loud and clear. The Doc and Bliksem certainly had credibility that could not be denied, and let's face it Dads always know best (no sarcasm there...) I do however wish to suggest that you edit the video and include the Teich seeing as you do not specify a number like "The Top 10". I am sure many of your staunch subscribers like me would count it a personal favour. Thanks for all the great videos. I really enjoy your channel.

[@jksinorbit]

Yeah but no. Not having Teichman is a definite mistake

[@darranwikeepa7079]

No Morne du Plessis! Oh well I'll wait for the greatest Springbok managers then

[@AmenYeshua]

Darran Wikeepa Weird...Morne’ should definitely be on the list!! I watched some games he was in a few weeks ago and realized what an enormous influence he had on the game!!

[@alfredkillian3656]

6 voet 6 duim rugbystaal met n nek wat rek soos n rugbybal, Morne

[@catholicrugbyfan1635]

Hi Darren, definitely Morne du Plessis. Click on my icon youtube pic....video 9 my no 8 of My Childhood Heroes Team.

[@StevenBenjaminAuthor]

I think you must redo the list; Teichmann . . . Skinstad (who everyone acknowledges was ahead of his time) And of course, what about Morne Du Plessis?

[@RealRugby]

Thanks for the feedback Steven - the list is just my opinion, that's all. It's not any sort of definitive ranking

[@Oldies48]

Gary Teichmann should be on this list, and possibly Pierre Spies

[@AmenYeshua]

What about Morne Du Plessis, Jan Ellis, Rob Louw.

[@RealRugby]

We felt that Morne was a better captain than a player and that these players were better. Jan Ellis and Rob Louw were flanks, so we didn't include them. This is just our opinion, so most people will differ from it

[@catholicrugbyfan1635]

@@RealRugby If memory serves me right, Rob Louw played one Test at no 8, First Test against NZ in 1981.

[@breathe751]

Always difficult and a bit unfair to rate players from amateur against proffessional eras. Then again. There is a vast difference between rugby in the 80's and rugby between 1950's-70's. I would rate Gary Teichman, Vermeulen, Skinstadt and Spies (up untill 2010) as our best nr.8's in the Pro era. The ability to attack the advantage line is one of the trademarks of nr 8's in the modern game. Vermeulen's defense and positional play must be one of the best of our times. Morne Plessis must definitely count among the top 3 Springbok eightmen in the amateur era. I read a lot about Muller but never saw him play. There was also Jannie Breedt , Nic Mallet and then unfortunates like Pote Fourie whom never made a Springbok squad.

[@RealRugby]

Thanks for your comment Gerhard. I agree 100%. You cannot compare players from different eras and this is no definitive list, it's just 5 players we thought were outstanding. And yes, Teichman, Spies and Skinstad could have easily counted amongst these legends. Specially Spies, between 2007 and 2010, he was on top of his game. Go check out our tribute to Bob Skinstad, what a player! Thanks for the feedback!

[@ianwebling8411]

No Morné du Plessis?

[@rogernaidoo1953]

Duanne at #1

[@RedLorryYellowLorry_]

Pierre Spies???

[@conneltheunissen2997]

What about Morne DuPlessis

[@TazKiKr]

The list of missing players not even mentioned is a disgrace. Morné du Plessis, Bobby Skinstadt, Gary Teichman, Jannie Breedt to name but a few. This would have been so much better as a top 10 not a top 5.

[@RealRugby]

TazKiKr So make your video of your top 10. Would like to see it

[@henry-nr5np]

Baie agstemanne almal verskillende spel bv,, Tiaan Strauss ,,, kort sterk

[@Mzansi74]

The jury is still out on Vermeulen I think. Morné du Plessis should have been included instead.

[@garynash6724]

I think Naas makes a good number 8

[@skyelark155]

@@garynash6724 closely followed by Montgomery

[@garynash6724]

Guess your shutting your mouth now hey "muppetooo"??? Muppetoooo,,, That's the Zulu word for muppet You fucken Muppet!!

[@duncanidaho9492]

skinstaad , spies , teichmann ???? fm france

[@allanmacbadger5692]

Yep and what about Danie Rossouw?

[@jeremymerrifield7244]

Ashton missing a tackle ... No shock there

[@rolandbruiners5709]

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[@unondwayzauyashinga1735]

No Gary Teichmann! What bullshit!

[@RealRugby]

Why is it bullshit?

[@NickSchoonwinkel]

Yes every man has his own opinion. I do not agree with Vermeulen and Morne du Plessis is not in my top 5. I rank Pierre Spies in the top 5.

[@skyelark155]

Morne was a flank

[@nielrossouw7831]

2019 has cemented Vermeulen at no3. Maybe even no1

[@gcombrinck]

Nee, regtig!? Behalwe Duanne Vermeulen was Jannie Breedt, Jo van Niekerk, Pierre Spies, Garry Techman, Bob Skinstad, Wynand Claasen, Tiaan Strauss, Ryan Kankofski, Andrew Aitken almal strate beter rugbyspelers en agstemanne as dié genoem. Wow. En Jannie waarskynlik die beste.

[@mtnstrand2819]

BS! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@lioneladriaan7847]

You are all unashamedly referring and lauding Springbok "greats" from yesteryear but forgetting, deliberately or through ignorance or being in denial that all those mentioned were "White" Springboks and therefore not at all representative of the country.

[@RealRugby]

Yes, I am unashamedly referring to these greats as greats. I definitely didn't forget about the evils of the past, because I get reminded every single day of life. The ignorance here is people who wants to take away any credit for the skill these players had. Yes, the team wasn't representative. Yes, not everyone had an even chance to play, but that shouldn't take away anything from the people who did get a chance. I have met many players from that era and I can promise you skin colour was never an issue and they would play against anyone. They were sportsman and just wanted to compete. So the ignorance is on your side my friend. Not all white people are the same and besides - this is history, what do you want me to do about it?

[@mtnstrand2819]

We were the country idiot. And a better one than what it is now.

[@nicolaasjansevanrensburg7543]

Why always bring politics in this matter

[@alwinengelbrecht3012]

You are so funny. Look at yourself in the mirror. Behold thou seest the ignorant one before thee. Stupid, aren't you? 😂🤣