Have We Found Life on Venus?

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References:
[1] solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/....
[2] www.nature.com/articles/s4155...
[3] www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10...
[4] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosign...
[5] theconversation.com/if-there-...
[6] link.springer.com/chapter/10....
[7] www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/...
[8] repository.iucaa.in:8080/jspui...
[9 www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10...
[10] www.reddit.com/r/askscience/c...
[11] www.sciencefocus.com/news/ven...
[12] arxiv.org/pdf/1910.05224.pdf
[13] onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/a...
[14] astrobites.org/2020/09/21/pho...

[@mahindra123456789]

This video is by far the most comprehensive and understandable breakdown of this news on Venus. Great job and thank you!

[@psycronizer]

oh for god's sakes..no it isn't ! she makes blunder after blunder..eg..2:23 phosphine found in extremely high levels...like hell it was....

[@mahindra123456789]

​@@psycronizer I do not have the qualifications or knowledge to have seen that type of error or others you have seen. I am not disagreeing but my comment was a reaction to the video. I saw so many superficial articles about this news but this video is the only one that talks about how scientists could not model a non-biological origin for the gas, and other topics.

[@baileytaylor1160]

Wast the PBS Spacetime video

[@dfinn7085]

@@baileytaylor1160 p)

[@charlessarver1637]

Fascinating

[@pinkgoergefloyd8340]

Maybe citizens of Venus are cooking meth? That would explain the Phosphene

[@jangamaster8677]

Everyone knows Venus has the worst meth problem

[@shatterthemirror8563]

That would explain why they didn't see any life after landing there. The Venusians were like "Hide, it's the cops!".

[@markoristic3535]

Thick clouds are perfect place for aliens to hide meth lab

[@pinkgoergefloyd8340]

Snazzypop Maybe you should do some Meth. That’ll make it even better

[@DanielNyong]

Noooo. More Math and less Meth

[@coe8159]

Plot twist: all the Venus life died of chemical warfare and meth addiction

[@Toxicity1987]

9:30 Global Warming, it was Global Warming.

[@thenerdlobby6599]

Plot Twist: Trump's first term was on venus.

[@davidschaftenaar6530]

@@Toxicity1987 Weeeeeell, that's probably what completely sterilized Venus, yes... But it also saw a global resurfacing event between 300 and 600 million years ago... Think of a volcanic eruption, except everywhere at once: A planet-wide flood basalt eruption. For context, this happened _after_ the evolution of metazoans (aka animals) on earth. Venus may have had complex life up until that point... Which could indeed have been waging chemical wars fueled by copious amounts of methamphetamine. Just sayin'

[@neolexiousneolexian6079]

@@thenerdlobby6599 He's like the anti-Superman! Escaped his planet as a decrepit old man, in order to guide humanity into destruction. Or Ben Schwarz! How many -towns- planets are we going to let him ruin before he's finally put in prison?

[@IchorX]

This should be reason enough for another mission to Venus in order to sample the atmosphere. Even if there isn't life we could use some clearer data.

[@christobalgonzalez3529]

You go

[@oadka]

ISRO Is in the process if building such a probe called "Shukrayaan", as Shukra is the Indian Mythological name of Venus.

[@mejahitam2177]

Breh, why would we come to venus when we our self will become just like it. Just wait for a century and the solar system will have 2 venus by then.

[@MissTrinidad]

How about we clean up our oceans first, then go....

[@IchorX]

@@MissTrinidad NASA’s total budget is less than $20 billion, we can do both. I'm sick and tired of hearing this argument, WE CAN DO BOTH. We shovel $750 billion into the pockets of tobacco companies every single year but we get mad at the people that are trying to keep our entire existence, species, origin, and everything from A. remaining a mystery and B. getting annihilated and reduced to space debris by an unseen disaster. But no, let's not do the stuff with the potential to revolutionize our breakthrough rate and save us from being a one-planet species because the drop in the bucket required should go to more immediate problems here on Earth. Why not ask for a 30th of the US military budget instead of some of the most important science ever done? Obviously, we need to save our planet, but we can do both, they are not mutually exclusive. If you want more to be done for it it's not the money required that's holding you up, it's the people profiting from the destruction of our planet. Also, there a million more urgent threats than our ocean pollution when it comes to problems here on earth. Our oceans rising are certainly worse, and either way, it's not the money that's the problem, it's the people dumping garbage into our ocean because it's cheap. Do you even know what you're arguing for?

[@flaviusclaudius7510]

Short answer: no. Long answer: we found a chemical that could be indicative of either life or an unknown geochemical process; further research is needed.

[@addamriley5452]

Real Short answer: yes.... long answer: life of Venus found us first. Then Egypt was born.

[@seangarry4723]

Nerd click bait

[@Raizk_]

Ty for saving me 15 minutes of my life

[@jaysmith4314]

Has there been any update on said chemical?

[@flaviusclaudius7510]

@@jaysmith4314 latest I heard (end of 2022) is that some people don't think the chemical (phosphine) is there at all, while recent studies from one of the teams that do says it's unlikely to be life because none of the other changes in chemical composition that you'd expect are present.

[@lorenzobarletta5585]

Last time I was this early Venus still had it's oceans

[@gorrium5027]

@HousingDinosaur pretty good

[@Poop_Deck_Pappy]

I am full hooked on this channel. We homeschool our youngest and these are going to be part of our science class

[@charlessarver1637]

I would have loved to be raised on these films

[@mahirrahman5608]

amazing video as usual, you deserve much more subscribers

[@emericgagne8084]

Modern Venus sounds like future Earth.):

[@jm56585]

It also sounds like what the oil companies want earth to be lol

[@sanjinin5081]

it’s actually a tamer version of future earth. water going up into the atmosphere and not coming back down is a big contributor to global warming, and earth has more water than venus ever did

[@ButterGamesRoblox]

Ngl those video clips they show of Venus looks like something you'd see in a documentary about volcanoes or deforestation

[@stelofthegods4982]

That sound both true an sad

[@conlon4332]

Most probably. As she said, they were probably similar in the beginning, but as the sun got bigger and hotter Venus became uninhabitable. This will probably be Earth's fate one day, as the sun has not, and will not, stop growing. It happened to Venus first as it's closer to the sun, and it's only a matter of time until Earth is too close too. Billions of years though, so I wouldn't worry. Who knows where humans will be by then, if we're still around we'll probably be off traveling the universe. We've only existed at all a few million years, so it's an unimaginably long time away.

[@filip1408]

I love your channel! Brilliant content and well documented! Great Work!

[@stcrussman]

I've got $20 on no life

[@mohammadzuhairkhan8661]

I mean, how do you differentiate between human contaminants and real ET life.

[@linecraftman3907]

@@mohammadzuhairkhan8661 watch the video lol no earthly life can survive the highly acidic conditions of Venus

[@Guru_1092]

@@linecraftman3907 No Earth life that we currently know of, that is.

[@scoops2]

@@Guru_1092 I read that even if we did bring microbes ourselves there's no way they could have produced so much phosphene in that period of time. Seems like it's really either some new unknown chemistry on rocky planets or life. Either way it should make for a great scientific advancement.

[@swirlingbrain]

Debunked by thunderf00t. His video is very compelling and calls the venus life hypothesis nonsense. Pretty much zero water, insignificant phosphene, impossibly acidic conditions, no hydrogen, not going to happen, a dreamers folly.

[@Imhotep340]

Great presentation and delivery, thank you!

[@adilhamdi3345]

An article published by Nature in Jan. 2021 shows that the spectral signature was mistaken as phosphine, and is instead actually SO2 (sulfur dioxide).

[@jbzaddy1980]

Yeah kinda dissapointing

[@urban0443]

I love how you explained it. Definitely better than big news channel. 🤗

[@abacue1976]

Fantastic work! Thanks a lot!

[@siletro]

Yeah.....i was hoping when you will make aa video on space. THANK YOU!!

[@SuodesTzeos]

excellent work (as always), but this time around the music was sooo good, it reminds me of the old vsauce videos :')

[@johnw3115]

I think the compound used in WW1 is Phosgene (carbonyl dichloride, COCl2) NOT Phosphine.

[@lunchbox1341]

i think that i have no idea what you are saying.

[@jm56585]

I trust you because you sound smart

[@flaviusclaudius7510]

You are correct

[@cbj3287]

Yup it's phosgene but even phosphine is poisonous

[@e-lemon6089]

@@jm56585 Incredible logic.

[@kafkaesque4023]

Please make video on rna interface,plants response to stress etc Really love your content....

[@jinkaajay4465]

The voice and the way of explanation is awesome...

[@evdm7482]

Amazing footage of Venus!

[@1977jelliott]

I enjoy this channel, minimal clickbait and science fluff

[@Gunnar120]

It's frustrating that you didn't even discuss the large particles that Venus probes have found in her atmosphere. Several of the Soviet probes had systems that measured droplets and particles that it contacted on its way into the atmosphere. Along with water droplet-sized particles, the probe also bumped into particles that were distinctly similar to single celled organisms that float in Earth's upper atmosphere.

[@rustybolts8953]

This I did not know. Along with the new discovery of the amino acid Glycine this is forming a strong case for life as we just don't know it. We need another ship. Thank you and please keep commenting useful information.

[@jaysmith4314]

Two years later, and has there been any update on the subject?

[@AfricanLionBat]

Sucks seeing these videos now after finding that the levels weren't as high as they originally thought and it was a mistake they measured it so high

[@IrishAnonymous01]

YES!! More chemistry please!

[@thomas.02]

Tin foil hat on: what if we humans are from Venus, escaping to earth after we messed up Venus beyond repair and forgot our long lost lesson

[@IamMrEd]

@Alpha Centauri No, we just gave them a ride on ours, obviously.

[@schiefawindustries1619]

I love that this channel sites sources!

[@tomikk86]

@Graham Haerther can you tell us the name of the soundtrack at 12:00 please? great job @real science!!!

[@Zakariah1971]

Excellent presentation

[@ShauriePvs]

I've never been this early in this channel!

[@shaneskinner9128]

Are you sister of that Real Engineering guy ?

[@infinitecanadian]

Wasn't the gas used in the Great War phosgene gas and not phosphene?

[@discreet_boson]

Real science and spacetime: upload similar videos at the same time Me: 👁️ 👄 👁️

[@WoodysAR]

When things got too hot on Mother Venus, we moved one planet out to Auntie Earth.

[@robertoperez94]

I wanna see my big-headed cousins

[@shawneeg214]

Hi

[@robertoperez94]

@@shawneeg214 Hello

[@shawneeg214]

Roberto Perez wanna go bowling?

[@robertoperez94]

@@shawneeg214 ye

[@KCABlifts]

5head

[@toddtrojek6521]

Ahhhhhh! A good dosage of phosphine does wonder! Awesome show folks!

[@nateg7502]

Fascinating

[@firstlas9647]

One Venus day is the equivalent of two Earth months? Hell no I would not sit in my office for two months on a Monday.

[@benderisgreat95able]

I think the upper atmosphere of Venus contains the remnants of an extinction event that wiped out the entire biosphere on the surface. The same extinction event that may have left its once earth-like atmosphere completely uninhabitable.

[@aniketchanda9315]

Are you sister of that Real Engineering guy ?

[@shawneeg214]

Yea

[@muskankaun]

Good point, these are a lot similar. Might be a chain channel of Real Engineering

[@emperorpalpatine66]

The channels are affiliated with each other (they sometimes mention each other’s videos) I don’t know if they’re related

[@mrtek8095]

no

[@infinitecanadian]

I suspect that there is a pretty face behind that voice.

[@DannyCzech]

LOL, čeština na výstražných cedulích, to bych ve videu na tomto kanálu nečekal :-)

[@michaljanata8877]

Asi tak :D

[@lankatr]

"Phosphene gas detected at extremely high levels..." - was it though? It was literally just a few parts per billion

[@CuulX]

1000 times higher than in earth's atmosphere is "just" a few ppb?

[@lankatr]

@@CuulX That's an apples to oranges comparison. Comparing it to the equivalent biological footprints of life, this is miniscule.

[@CuulX]

@@lankatr no

[@benthomason3307]

If we ever send a probe to Venus, the first thing it'd find is one of my cat's hairs.

[@peterjj1991]

When there's a question mark in the title, the answer is "no".

[@admirallightningbolt]

So tantalizing... I hope we discover life as soon as possible so older people today get to see the day

[@mejdalsari2296]

Check out @bullaki for a detailed explanation on the recent Venus phosphine discovery.

[@jamesford4031]

What organism is shown at 9:40?

[@Myname-il9vd]

while the initial findings are now believed to be noise from their observations I still believe the solar system is teeming with at least microbial life and maybe even more complex life in the ice moon oceans of Jupiter and Saturn, I just can’t bring myself to believe that earth is the only place have life when life here developed as soon as it possibly could when conditions were far more hostile

[@_ch1pset]

People keep bringing up that Venus doesn't have very much hydrogen. However, Venus atmosphere still contains chemicals that have hydrogen such as water, hydrogen flouride, hydrogen chloride, sulfuric acid and hydrogen sulfide. The next question to ask, is there enough hydrogen on Venus to produce the detected amount of phosphene. Also, if there is, what chemical process results in phosphene that involves these chemicals as they are the only ones in great enough abundance to explain such a process.

[@KooblyK]

Maybe the phosphine could be related to how such hypothetical life would deal with the acid, given the sheer, unusual quantity being produced? I’m more physics than chemistry though, so 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@devon-tyrelwatson7283]

what's the song at 2:50 called? Is it original music?

[@ferencgazdag1406]

Is there a way phosphene decays? If not, it can just be left over

[@TrabberShir]

3:32 I am disappointed with that oversimplification. We know of several abiotic processes which make phosphine naturally, they just make it in vanishingly small amounts and there are other processes, often related to the production, which would break it down just as fast. Finding "some" phosphine was expected. Finding as much phosphine as we did, has gotten the world excited.

[@CrystalKeeper7]

True, I forgot about that.

[@reinhardtscheepers6317]

They address your point at 4:36

[@TrabberShir]

@@reinhardtscheepers6317 No, they don't, they further the misconception. The original paper actually has a calculated maximum production from lightning and solar wind. At 5:03 this video asserts a simple misinterpretation of the abstract form the paper, claiming that none would be produced by these processes on Venus. I trust that they did not stop with the abstract in their reading of the paper, but likely just forgot the small details as they went through numerous other sources which skipped that detail. Hence "disappointed". We are talking about the second reference in their list of references by the way.

[@colinrobinson1924]

You've oversimplified the position re sulfuric acid and organic compounds. Organics, or carbon-chain compounds, are a vast category. Sulfuric reacts dramatically with some of them. Others are stable in it. Living cells containing sulfuric acid instead of water would need to be chemically different from Earth life, but could still be carbon-based.

[@markwattne8772]

Is there life on Maaaaaaaars!

[@emperorpalpatine66]

There will be if Elon gets his way

[@mohammadzuhairkhan8661]

A big underground lake has been found. Check out Scishow.

[@Samuel-ym8wz]

Yes David bowie

[@_PeterGabriel1216]

TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAWMAN BEATING UP THE WRONG GUY

[@reeve8640]

Shut it bowie

[@blackheartgaming6121]

I love space I hope to get there one day

[@eaglenice8288]

its a very good vid the best so far

[@mejdalsari2296]

Check out @bullaki for a detailed explanation on the Venus phosphine discovery.

[@evdm7482]

The simple idea of the macro mirroring the micro or Vice versa would suggest that the universe is full of life, not just planets. Consider tardigrades, wouldn’t there be a massive space whale feeding on them like krill

[@joshuatraffanstedt2695]

Anyone heard of any future missions to venus after this news? Youd think a probe to venus would move to the top of the list after this news.

[@futurehistory2110]

Makes you wonder about panspermia, did life arrive from Venus to Earth billions of years ago or vice versa? Is Mars part of this? Did life start on one or more of these three planets? Did it start on all three? If it started separately on two planets in the solar system then that's it, we know that life is everywhere. If panspermia is the explanation, then perhaps the inception of life is so rare that it's bound to our solar system only.

[@austinstaton383]

Oh boy knowing 2020 it’s out to get us

[@evboto.5597]

Yeah yeah yeah there could be life on Venus but is there ｏｉｌ

[@violetevergarden5160]

I have always been more fascinated with Venus than mars.

[@JVONROCK]

The life on earth needs your attention

[@Dr.Kay_R]

Imagine if Cheimosynthetic bacteria came from Mars, Thermophiles came from Venus, And photosynthetic bacteria came from Earth.

[@EinarEngvig]

Phosgene was used as a chemical weapon in WW1, not phosphene. They are two different compounds.

[@psycronizer]

16:41....ooohh they interview you ? wow! how fucking thrilling !....

[@adem9599]

Aaand then the minecraft song ("mice on venus") starts playing.

[@janslezak8335]

Very good video👏👏

[@mejdalsari2296]

Check out @bullaki for a detailed explanation

[@vishansingh7641]

Title says one thing, video talk about gas. It's all gas and always has been

[@derekbradshaw9040]

i havent watched the episode yet but im gunna say no we havent will update after

[@EdKaneInternationalMale]

If you had been my teacher while growing up, I would’ve understood & achieved a whole lot more!!

[@tpespos]

Plot twist: venous was our first plant but it’s been so long we forgot we started there.

[@toboterxp8155]

Humanity definitely didn't. Life might have, but we might never know for sure.

[@fly463]

@@toboterxp8155 It is possible you kno

[@agarwaltanay007]

You make the most entertaining and informative videos! Hope you get to scale up.

[@TheShardsFamily]

WE GOT TO GO DEEPER

[@pravii444]

If people from Venus visit Earth during Summer, they'll freeze.

[@amendersc1650]

So, any changes in the last two years?

[@flaxthibax1880]

Wasnt that one debunked as insignificant, already?

[@patrickjensen6688]

They should try to correct the atmosphere that would be beneficial long-term for earth

[@badgerproductions3786]

Or maybe there’s some life forms that don’t need water and could live in these conditions and we can’t just seen them

[@NobleWolf.]

I wonder what technology would be needed to move Venus to the Goldilock Zone? What technical planning would take place?

[@gregorynicholls9991]

Been moved and NASA watched as it was moved a little closer to the earth. Noticed how big and bright it is nowadays in the evening sky? It's being terraformed as I type . There are two NASAs ,outer NASA don't have a clue what the inner NASA does. Our Benevolent space brothers are preparing that planet for inhabitants. Those who follow ANSWERS OF AN ALIEN FROM ANDOMEDA were informed of this for quite a while now.

[@mortkebab2849]

How could Venus have had Earthlike conditions for two billion years if it has no magnetosphere, required to prevent the atmosphere from being blown away by the solar wind?

[@netisasidhar8898]

Why dont we delibrately seed life on other planets / habitable moons too?

[@joelhemphill8005]

Well, firstly, besides perhaps the moon, we don't even know conclusively that there is no life on other planets. If we were to seed life, then we may very well destroy any microbial life that might exist. In time, we probably will seed life on, say, mars. But as a blanket strategy, it's just plain reckless.

[@DendrocnideMoroides]

it is never aliens until it is aliens

[@weplaytowin]

2020: send it back

[@badgalkia10]

What if life has already been found, & they’re just not telling us? How would we know??

[@rodarius95]

Hello. Thanks for making interesting videos. In my opinion, the background music is too distracting in some of them. It is mixed too loud and always sounds very "exciting", which is distracting me from listening to what you are saying. Otherwise, keep going! :)

[@a6two]

Phosphine gas has a half life of 5 hours. So something must be creating it actively? Unless the Venus atmosphere allows it last longer then on Earth?

[@alancoker1459]

Mt. St. Helens as an example of the surface of venus ?

[@alexlandherr]

Why is the thumbnail using a picture of a probe (BepiColombo) headed for Mercury?

[@savary5050]

Lmao

[@Towalak]

While I understand that we only have one example of life forming on a planet to go off of, these conversations about about alien life always strike me as incredibly earth-centric (geocentric?) For all we know, there could be aliens on venus wondering ''how can there be life on earth with barely any sulfuric acid, and so much phosphorus? There is barely any atmosphere, and the surface is so cold that water can solidify in some places!''. I obviously don't think there is intelligent life on Venus, else we'd know, but I hope others will see my point

[@pauls5745]

life or the building blocks from here long ago could've been yeeted into Venus by impact from an asteroid

[@eyeprops5422]

Don't want them to find more microbes... A pointy eared green guy would be nice.

[@weareallbornmad410]

...what's a nuclear submarine? Should I add it to my list of fears and nightmares?

[@minihjalte]

The music is a bit loud, espcially at 2:50

[@mejdalsari2296]

Check out @bullaki for a detailed explanation on the Venus phosphine discovery.

[@terrencepayne1371]

Nice video

[@Africanhorror]

maybe aliens see earth and wonder, how can there be life the atmosphere has too much nitrogen, there's water that falls from the sky, the temperature is too low and the pressure is too low

[@savary5050]

“If any life existed there they would be melted by the rain!!!”

[@Babulous]

all the waterbears

[@bipolarspock6145]

Just because we need something to live doesn't mean that on another planet a alien life form need the same things

[@03jkeeley]

whoever edits your video: layoff the highpass filter please

[@tempusfugit9009]

just imagine if science did not cost "money"

[@columbus8myhw]

Venus mission Venus mission Venus mission