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@greggdebeck91454 жыл бұрын
Works great on black iron fittings as well. Has saved my butt several times working on boilers. Pays for itself almost instantly.
@lostintime86516 жыл бұрын
That's the last time I loan you my 1/2" wrench.
@elephantgrass631 Жыл бұрын
Totally. You gave the wrench to him straight. Gave it back to you Bud Lighted.
@claudehebert31314 жыл бұрын
Induction heaters are really effective for heating ferrous metals. There was one at the college I went, a big unit stuck on the wall, the coils were water-cooled (1/4" copper pipe in fact). You put a can of water on the floor, dropped a bolt through the coil, the bolt went red hot passing through and fell in the can and was instantly tempered. The big defect of these is, if you have a pacemaker or ressucitator implanted, stay clear of them as induction heaters are powerful RF emitters and will wreak havoc with the sensors.
@nicke23077 жыл бұрын
Im going to get one for frozen bleeders on calipers. Also exhaust manifold bolts are prime candidates for this tool. Not cheap but if you make a living out of it worth every penny
@themechanic61179 жыл бұрын
We have one of these at my job, it works great . snapon guy sold it to my shop for $700. I see people on here said it cost about $500....well that's snapon for you lol
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Renteria Awesome....I keep hearing great things about these & they definitely seem like a great alternative to a torch!
@pajapajic88096 жыл бұрын
210 $
@Obamaistoast20123 жыл бұрын
200 bucks on Amazon
@SouthMainAuto8 жыл бұрын
Just linked this video with one of mine :) Thanks Daniel!
@InvisibleHeat4 жыл бұрын
Hey South Main Auto Repair! Can you post the link to that video in the comments??
@SouthMainAuto4 жыл бұрын
@@InvisibleHeat I can try. It usually puts links in the spam on this guys channel. I do it in a comment below this one.
@Raptor2006378 жыл бұрын
I thought I needed one. That was until I saw the price for it.
@tomdickharryjane7 жыл бұрын
Just like the wera wrenches. Wow!
@marioparra786 жыл бұрын
how much????
@bobdodge31716 жыл бұрын
mario parra $430
@marioparra786 жыл бұрын
thank you that is pricy. but safer then open flame :)
@pajapajic88096 жыл бұрын
210 $
@mrb12529 жыл бұрын
The only problem with the tool I can think 96 is bolts in tight constraints or akward angles. Looks pretty cool though!
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Mista B Truckin Well, the good thing is that they make a wide range of coils....and they are all bendable. So, really if you can see the bolt, you can probably get this to work.
@charliewaters528912 күн бұрын
They have flexible coils you can wrap around things.
@poisonfangs859 жыл бұрын
That is a really cool tool. I only have a use for it every now and then but it's good to know its out there.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
poisonfangs85 Thanks! :)
@qualitytools81169 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying, this indeed makes sense as not to have the element contact the piece you're working on.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Qualitytools Yep no problem.....for longevity, it is definitely smart not to touch the insulation to the material.
@kimokahikolekalihi9 жыл бұрын
Another great tool I probably never would have known about if it weren't for your awesome channel! Thank you. Hope its not Too expensive... I like that it doesn't heat up the surrounding area like a torch does.
@kimokahikolekalihi9 жыл бұрын
Damn. It is expensive. Guess the map torch will do for a while.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Kimo Kalihi Thanks! I am glad you liked it! :)
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Kimo Kalihi Well....this is definitely more of a "tool investment".....so if it isnt something you would use often, it is one of those things that many people can make due finding alternative methods. For speed & safety, this is an awesome option though!
@brianb57798 жыл бұрын
Bought this and love it. Awsome,Awsome,Awsome
@SteveRobReviews9 жыл бұрын
Excellent tool. One year warranty seems a little low, I would have thought at least a five. 👍
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Steve Rob Well, keep in mind an entire shop using this on a daily basis.....there comes a time where they absolutely get their money's worth out of things. I would assume for them to guarantee a 5-year warranty, the price would significantly increase to pay for the people abusing the warranty process.
@vermili01388 жыл бұрын
Now, if there's a cordless option for this, it will be a win for the ages. Thanks for the video!
@thisoldchevy23714 жыл бұрын
Ali Haidar it would need a big battery!
@512Chaos2 жыл бұрын
There is now. Same mfg.
@hwingerrr5680 Жыл бұрын
A battery with inverter should make it pseudo cordless, just a matter of getting an inverter with enough wattage capacity to handle 'wattever' this tool requires. Has anyone ever measured what it draws in actual operation?
@mausball9 жыл бұрын
Should be standard equipment in any shop that works on cars in or from the rust belt.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
mausball 100% agree! :)
@Sabaka19542 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but I would like to know how this tool works on a seized, rusted bolt. You use the tool to heat a nut seized on threads of a bolt, but not to heat a bolt. It makes perfect sense that if you heat only a nut threaded on a bolt, the nut will expand relative to the bolt, thereby allowing easy removal of the nut. What about a bolt that is threaded into a larger part? It seems to me that for heating to be effective, one needs to heat the larger part so that the female threads of the larger part expand relative to the male threads of the bolt. This tool could be used to heat the bolt head - but is heating the bolt head an effective way to remove the bolt?
@RealToolReviews2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The heat breaks the rust bond which is what requires so much torque to overcome typically.
@hwingerrr5680 Жыл бұрын
In that case it may be good to heat it up, then cool it with penetrating fluid before trying to remove it. That should help break the surly bonds of rust without having the heat expanded part jamming against the threads.
@Sabaka1954 Жыл бұрын
@@hwingerrr5680 Thanks.
@Sabaka1954 Жыл бұрын
@@RealToolReviews Thanks.
@bobjohnson82062 жыл бұрын
You should a comparison between the Mini Ductor and the Venom It seems the venom would be able to get into tighter places than the other. I have always liked your videos..
@jaydee30463 жыл бұрын
Maybe that flexible wire at 3:09 could be shaped into a "C" shape for going around copper pipe? Then you could solder plumbing connections in tight places.
@stephenh5944 Жыл бұрын
It only works on ferrous metals, IIRC.
@robschoufour48255 жыл бұрын
I had to change tires on a F350 Dually Ford with the hubcaps still on they created so much moisture and seized the lug nuts totally on there what a hell of a job I had I wish I had this thing I would have bought one just for that
@dasungahn8 жыл бұрын
amazing tech!! it's a very fancy tool everyone like to have like always this is a very informative review
@RealToolReviews8 жыл бұрын
+Danny Ahn Thanks!
@Gw0wvl7 жыл бұрын
I bought a Induction heater from China for just over £20 delivered, It's not boxed though, So that's something I will have to do, But consider the price saving, I bought it to specifically help remove seized exhaust studs from a motorbike I've recently bought.
@joeygonzo5 жыл бұрын
does it work ? does it make the bolts turn orange ?
@regsparkes65076 жыл бұрын
What amperage or wattage rating is on this tool? These two will dictate the length and gauge of the extension cord you can use safely on the Mini Ductor, (or any electric tool) wouldn't it?
@Jademyheart4 жыл бұрын
This looks a fantastic machine, I can't wait to try, Bit is she reliable? Only light use for her , any advice please? Haven't got much ££ so do everything myself.....🙏
@luckyguy600 Жыл бұрын
Excellent ... Crusty/rusty parts have met their match.
@qualitytools81169 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, I didn't know this existed! I have a few questions, So do you have the touch the fastener when doing this or kind of hover around it? Is there a drawback if you do touch or just hover around what you're trying to free up?
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Qualitytools Thanks! You hover around it.....if you do touch the metal, then it can burn through the insulation on the coil and ruin it quickly. As long as you dont touch it, they will last a lot longer.
@dubmob1512 жыл бұрын
@@RealToolReviews is the insulation on the coil heat resistant? In the old days they would have used asbestos, before it caused cancer.
@hwingerrr5680 Жыл бұрын
I lined the coil with Kapton tape to prevent the original coil insulation from contacting the heated metal and getting prematurely degraded. Works perfectly for insulating the coil as it can take a direct flame without burning or melting.
@xVicissitudesx2 ай бұрын
Does it heat anything up outside of the coil at all or does it have to be directly in it?
@daviddriver54919 ай бұрын
The tool looks like it works great when you have enough room to access the stuck nut. What do you do when there is limited working space and that flameless heat system tool won't fit?
@RealToolReviews8 ай бұрын
You can bend the coil easily……It will work in most situations.
@ImAChristianFirst5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to buy one because of bad experiences with seized bolts. This thing will pay for itself. Even though I am in the south our old vehicles still have a lot of seized bolts. wd40, impact wrenches, etc aren't working. I think heat is the only way. Also I don't want to break a bolt.
@caddiman98346 жыл бұрын
How much is it and where can i get one. Im a mechanic in CT. and i really dont use torches.
@snobbingas1892 жыл бұрын
Interesting that it is so compact! I wonder if it's still just a transformer or does it have some "pulse thingy".
@neremodeling59569 жыл бұрын
dude!! thats a seriously cool tool! nice job with the review I wish i had any need for something like that but its just not something i could ever justify buying with the work i do.. if i were a mechanic i would buy one in a hearbeat
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
NERemodeling Thanks! :) Having the right tools for job always helps!
@RyanUsick6 ай бұрын
It seems like you really need to selvt the eight coil for the job . I also found the coulds dont last overly long and want to burn the coting off the coils
@MattsShop7 жыл бұрын
That thing is crazyyy.
@russwebster33029 жыл бұрын
A really useful tool, I could have used this a few times. Thanks for the review.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Russ Webster Thanks Russ!
@ericduplantier96919 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. I would always use a torch.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Eric DuPlantier Nice....I am glad you liked it!
@KaldekBoch7 жыл бұрын
Good product and great review as always.
@notmyfault29 Жыл бұрын
Can you bend it to reach awkward angles, and can you braze copper pipe.
@kennygo7706 жыл бұрын
I am very interested in your pricing for induction heaters made in USA. Do you also have flexible inductor 1~2mtr for this indution heater? If you have it, more variety range can be applicable including variety size of bearings.
@jdandboo9 жыл бұрын
Are we going to get to see the rest of the leaf spring removal? I was dying to see it remove the bolt from that sleeve!!
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
+jdandboo Haha....not in this video sadly.....I try to keep these as short/informative as I can.
@steve-dq7hh7 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see the bolt come out too.......
@daveschannel1246 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when someone was going to ask that! Maybe you could at least heat the threaded end a few times to break loose bolt from the sleeve. Has anyone done that with it yet? Always a messy job cutting bolts and molten rubber on fire dripping all over!
@reggydunlop57702 ай бұрын
First time i see this, awesome tool
@royquesada52953 жыл бұрын
How well does it work on exhaust manifolds nuts?
@MikkoRantalainen2 жыл бұрын
The interesting question is, can you use extension copper arms from the tool to the coil? I would guess yes, as long as you keep those two leads far enough from each other (about the same distance as the tool as should be okay). That would allow keeping the tool on the ground and only having (thick) cord to the application point.
@phillip_mcguinness7025 Жыл бұрын
You're better off running an extension cord to the handle on the high voltage side than burning it out running a very long loop.
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
@@phillip_mcguinness7025 Sure, but some tasks may have so little clearance that you cannot get the tool near to application point. For such cases, it would be nice to be able to insert only some kind of (heavy duty?) wire + loop to the application point.
@richardwallinger1683 Жыл бұрын
I have loctited the axle bolts on my 2021 Fiat Panda Hybrid . will the Mini Ductor 11 heat soften the Loctite .
@sfcd47572 жыл бұрын
does the tool last? i read a review that most dont last too long. they burn out or overheat itself etc...i would love this tool but not if it doesnt last 2-4 jobs
@RealToolReviews2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of a lot of problems with the knock-off ones….. not really many complaints with these.
@leesire5 жыл бұрын
I have 2 frame body mount bolts that are seized. Need to remove both to attach the step bar to the 97 Jeep. All I can get to is the head of the bolt. Can I heat the bolt only causing it to loosen? I can't get any penetrating lube up to where the threads are. Don't know if that stuff works anyway. Remember , all I can get to is the bolt. I suppose the bolt screws into the body and there is no nut. Great video
@RealToolReviews5 жыл бұрын
Yes. That is exactly what this is for. The bolt will get red hot breaking the rust bond.
@leesire5 жыл бұрын
Real Tool Reviews that bolt is about 5 inches long and I am not able to get to the top of bolt where the heat is needed the most. I'll try and just heat it with a butane lighter and tighten and loosen and maybe hit on it a few times. This bolt is the body frame mount bolt.
@leesire5 жыл бұрын
Wish you were in Nashville, Tn!
@RealToolReviews5 жыл бұрын
The coils on this are bendable....you’d be surprised how versatile it is.
@leesire5 жыл бұрын
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@Nevercouldfigureitout9 жыл бұрын
What kind of cool down time is on the coil after it heats a bolt? Do you need to watch where you lay it after use?
@themechanic61179 жыл бұрын
The coil cools almost instantly to the touch. U can even put your finger in the coil while its running n it won't burn you. Your finger will start to get warm (your blood has iron in it)
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
adabezzi I lay it down on a hard surface to cool just in case, but it seems to cool off very quickly. It is creating magnetic waves, not heat.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Renteria You are braver than me....I see a red hot bolt & my fingers are no where nearby....haha.
@angelnieves1858 жыл бұрын
excelente herramienta, un saludo desde Veracruz
@mauriciopuerta9285 жыл бұрын
Hola buenas noches disculpa usted tiene uno me puedes dar información sobre el gracias
@johngrepo99766 жыл бұрын
Do they have a pin style adapter to heat up rivits in framerails? Rusty rivits still need a torch and airhammer..
@alialawkati75626 жыл бұрын
Is it damage the screw or nut?
@davidbell88693 жыл бұрын
I'm going to buy one. I'm in the fabrication game, so all being well it can heat 20mm round bar in good time.
@vincentquintero80283 жыл бұрын
7.11 does it have a rubber bushing under the. Threads? And will you reccomened using an impact after heating it up and have anybody used it in control arms?
@vincentquintero80283 жыл бұрын
7:11
@ambrest959 жыл бұрын
Супер!) У нас таких в продаже не видел))))
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Александр М. Брест Спасибо! Я рад, что вам понравилось !
@ambrest959 жыл бұрын
)))
@desvariosdeuncamionero88567 жыл бұрын
Александр М. Брест ????????
@donalexey6 жыл бұрын
Вот не ожидал увидеть моего любимого разборщика "до потрохов" на этом канале. Надо самим такой сделать, я, возможно, попробую.
@thetwig1879 жыл бұрын
this is a nice looking tool, however the price tag is very large! the average price on e-bay for a mini ductor 2 is approx. $750.00 + shipping
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
+thetwig187 eBay is obviously ripping people off (no surprise there).....on Amazon these are in the $450 price range, so almost half price of what you are seeing on eBay. Here you go ---> www.amazon.com/Induction-Innovations-MD-700-Mini-Ductor-Magnetic/dp/B008XN9HO6?_encoding=UTF8&tag=reatoorev-20
@dubmob1512 жыл бұрын
@@RealToolReviews Amazon shows it for $469 nowadays, but it also offers an alternate item by Solary for $179. Is it as capable is the question, as this is more in the price range of people that aren't expensing their tools.
@feidex9 жыл бұрын
Very great video and tool: I find this tool a lot of work in my garage and it looks like is was made with high quality parts and so the price is very good amazon
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
MP 10000 $ Thanks! :)
@ruben259009 жыл бұрын
It works amazingly good!!
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Ruben Araujo Absolutely :)
@MrRick13034 жыл бұрын
Do the batteries have to be removed when using a car?
@dubmob1512 жыл бұрын
Why would you remove the battery from a car? It's running off AC line current 😉
@n3rdbear9 жыл бұрын
Holy fucking shit, I didn't know this existed. Thanks man, now I'm gonna use this to try to remove a rusted bolt from a gas tank with gasoline in it!
@n3rdbear9 жыл бұрын
n3rdbear I just had another funny thought. This could be used as a giant soldering iron.
@KinGIIRomE9 жыл бұрын
n3rdbear or use it on a titanium nail for dabs!
@patrickmoore76075 жыл бұрын
Can you solder a copper pipe with it. If so that would be a great video
@floridadad28173 жыл бұрын
Can you get it past red hot? Something in the area of 2000F? Wondering if you can heat treat tools with it.
@RealToolReviews3 жыл бұрын
It will continue to heat up until it loses magnetism….. so I’d guess fairly close.
@floridadad28173 жыл бұрын
@@RealToolReviews Nonmagnetic is exactly where we need it so that's perfect! Thank you.
@glenthemann8 жыл бұрын
mini? thing is fucking massive lol
@CampfireCrucifix3 жыл бұрын
Just wait till you see the maxi
@johnnymartinez7445 Жыл бұрын
This will also work to solder metal pipes without burning everything around the work area
@geogeduggan6579 Жыл бұрын
Will it work taking a bolt out from engine deck on lawnmower ?
@RealToolReviews Жыл бұрын
It heats up the bolt red hot, which breaks the rust bond….. so assuming it’s rust/corrosion that is your issue, then yes.
@dannychristlieb58136 жыл бұрын
What if the bolt you need to get to is in a spot were you can fit the tool on can you bend the coil angle?
@RealToolReviews6 жыл бұрын
Yes....the coils are bendable 👍
@MycroftMobil7 жыл бұрын
Mini-Ductor 12 volt on amazon
@ernieg14156 жыл бұрын
DOES IT COME WITH DIFFERENT COILS?
@seung-hojoo77053 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't the coil touch the object it is heating? I think if it touches it its insulation should burn or scratched. If so, it would be difficult to hold the coil steady for a few minutes until it heats up.
@Sabaka19542 жыл бұрын
Tool heats by induction. If tool used conduction, it should contact the object. Induction does not need contact. Work piece needs to be within electro-magnetic field of tool. Look at Wikipedia for more.
@dustinpomeroy88175 жыл бұрын
have you heard of any rumors of Milwaukee coming out with an M12 version of this?I want one but I'm not a mechanic so I don't really need it I'd prefer to just wait for a cordless version if it's in the distant future
@RealToolReviews5 жыл бұрын
I have not, and judging from the amount of power that one of these uses....I can’t see an effective (large) cordless version coming anytime soon.
@santosmacias70893 жыл бұрын
I wonder in you can used this tool on nox sensors or any exhaust sensors without damage
@assassinlexx1993 Жыл бұрын
I have heard that you can use them on o2 sensor
@shawnjackson39 Жыл бұрын
Can use it on pvc pipe?
@RealToolReviews Жыл бұрын
Metals
@shawnjackson39 Жыл бұрын
@@RealToolReviews ok
@FrenchValleyAirport9 жыл бұрын
More cool tools like this please :)
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
David G I agree! :) Stay tuned...more cool stuff on the way!
@Mr71chevyvan5 жыл бұрын
wonder with the right coil i could braze parts together
@geboyz9 жыл бұрын
Can you touch the part your trying to heat with the actual coil?
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
geboyz You can, but it burns up the insulation on the coil a lot faster & ruins them. For longevity, it is best to not touch the coil to the metal.
@garylee97383 жыл бұрын
Try the heat n quench method.
@sare3837 жыл бұрын
enjoy watching your videos!
@geovannisarabia99439 жыл бұрын
Another great review sir
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Geovanni Sarabia Thanks Geovanni!
@fedora2965 жыл бұрын
thank you great video very informative
@luisdiegonunezavila1072 жыл бұрын
Can it be used for soldering cooper pipes or tubes?
@hwingerrr5680 Жыл бұрын
Copper isn't ferrous so it wouldn't work the same way.
@4davidsimpson6 жыл бұрын
You said tighten the side screws one at a time. Why can't you tighten them at the same time?
@eurokid839 жыл бұрын
I'm buying one of these.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Chester Wardan Good choice!
@mamdouhnoshy73774 жыл бұрын
I have got as same as this induction heater, it works on car's battery 12V
@СергейКарапузов-ц8ф9 жыл бұрын
Hello great tool.Very useful. thank you.
@RealToolReviews9 жыл бұрын
Сергей Карапузов Thanks a lot!
@J.G3612 жыл бұрын
I wanna get one but I’ve seen reviews that after one or couple uses they just stop working
@RealToolReviews2 жыл бұрын
I know that some other brands make “copies” of this under other labels & ive heard of those being junk. But I haven’t heard many complaints about the Mini-ductor brand.
@J.G3612 жыл бұрын
@@RealToolReviews and it kept up good for you no issues?
@RealToolReviews2 жыл бұрын
I rarely used it, so I can’t say personally
@3613jeremy3 жыл бұрын
How is there so many of these with different names but look the same this version is any where from $180-$400 and they all look the exact same with different names
@onlyme8870 Жыл бұрын
What socket set is that
@Titus-as-the-Roman7 жыл бұрын
Another new device that could make your life a little easier only to have it priced way outside most peoples budgets (I would be curious to know exactly how much it cost to produce). My hot burning pencil flame torch may not be as effective as this unit but it isn't 200 times the price that ineffective.
@seapeddler3 жыл бұрын
I suppose that carefully splitting the nut with a Dremel would cost as much. There is no better option than induction at this time.
@ardabildik56413 жыл бұрын
it is basically a induction heater you can do it yourself at home
@rubenorodriguez54652 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah and like that I’m Inductor certified
@beizhang77993 жыл бұрын
can u do a video on it snap over one finger?🤔
@totenkopfelite886 жыл бұрын
That is really cool..
@MrHandy-hz5ju3 жыл бұрын
Lol have literally NEVER had an issue getting a leaf spring nut off. It's the bolt that screws you
@dtactrue10636 жыл бұрын
How much
@stefanBEAR984 жыл бұрын
some nuts are made of bras, some copper. Will it work?
@percyfaith11 Жыл бұрын
Nice, if you can reach the fastener you're working on with a 24" long tool lol.
@stans52705 жыл бұрын
I used a smaller version in prison to heat my coffee and soups up.
@dubmob1512 жыл бұрын
Should have used a bigger version to heat the bars and bend yourself an opening to get out
@cboyamg6 жыл бұрын
They dont recommend using a 50' cord because of the tools performance... Rather a longer cord is more prone to catching fire because of the resistance of the wire at longer lengths
@عادلالربيعي-ط6ج6 жыл бұрын
اني من العراق شلون اكدر احصل على هذا الجهاز اليعرف لا يقصر تحياتي
@RealToolReviews6 жыл бұрын
مرحبا من الولايات المتحدة وشكرا لمشاهدة!
@kevinchamberlain79286 жыл бұрын
Try getting it inside an awkward engine bay... I don't think so.
@stever58875 жыл бұрын
I've seen this in use on other videos, and it seems to work great. No open flame to accidentally burn things, and a reduced chance of fire because of leaking gasoline in an engine compartment. Nonetheless, one shouldn't use this without a fire extinguisher handy for those "oh, crap!" moments. The only caveat is that you needs LOTS of room to use something this size. In watching your set-up (explanation), I wondered why they don't also offer the various coils at a 90 degree orientation, rather than only the head-on orientation. I saw that they offer one piece as a "fit-to-size", but that looks like a bit of work to set up, use, then un-bend it; I'd probably leave it as-is once I finished using it. Owing to the tool's length, I could see many more uses (as well as ease of use) for this tool if it had 90-degree coils to begin with. I can see the need for both orientations. This is a situation where size does matter.
@dillwiggle25 жыл бұрын
Amazon Canada is $691 plus $90 in tax, the tax is about how much I would pay for it lol