Rebel Moon: Director's Cut is Not Very Good

[@TheLittlePlatoon]

The king: “I mean, I knew you were enslaving interdimensional goddesses to power massive warships and you were sending them out all over the galaxy and expending vast amounts of ammunition on small pacifist farming planets, but I had no idea you were *killing people!*”

[@randomft]

“I know my family has been doing this for a thousand years but this is too much!” *surprised Pikachu face*

[@r3dr4te963]

Funnily, I've just watch "My adventures with Superman" where Brainiac's (yay spoiler) backstory are somewhat remind me to this, but still written better

[@richardd5645]

His Imperial scepter also appears to be someone's thighbone - I feel a "Hans, are we the baddies?" moment is needed. It is also noticeable that the aesthetics of the Imperium of Man appear to not change at all from when the Royal family was alive until after. I got confused, were the Monks there before the assassination?

[@USSMariner]

​@@r3dr4te963 A show who's character strengths are killed by (bizzarely) a corporate mandate and an art style that kills tension because it veers on parody.

[@aleiferthenorthman7935]

can't wait for your bashing with your bougie accent

[@TheLewisDawg]

Snyder-cut Star Wars: Anakin slaughtering the defenseless Separatist leaders is now a cool scene with upbeat music and lots of slow-mo as Nute Gunray's CGI guts splatter on the floor in gruesome detail. Luke gets diddled at Mos Eisley cantina. Obi-Wan watches him get tentacle graped for several minutes, then chops up half the cantina. Moisture farming is now integral to the plot of several episodes and takes up half of the screentime. Jabba gets a 10-minute sex scene with slave Leia. Vader is so psychotic, he kills every imperial officer that even looks at him. After New Hope, he dubs Luke the "Boom-Giver". Yoda now says "fuck" in every sentence. All ships are now powered by a captive space whale that pulls them through space like a horse.

[@fulcrum6760]

It’s funny how Snyder cultists would throw the “but everyone loved Darth Vader, Cassian Andor or Palpatine!” card at critics when it comes to Kora. Here’s a thing: Star Wars doesn’t glorify them. They acknowledge what they’re doing is bad and we shouldn’t agree with what they’re doing pretty bluntly.

[@TheLewisDawg]

@@fulcrum6760 Yeah. It really is interesting how today's writers try to make their characters more "complex" by blurring the line between good and evil, but they fail miserably and only manage to introduce protagonists that aren't much better than what they oppose. At least here we could say that the Imperium (btw, how Snyder still hasn't been sued by Games Workshop for bastardizing Warhammer 40k I'll never know...) is so cartoonishly over-the-top evil, that anything against them goes. But then there's something like the Acolyte, where any sense of morality goes out of the window. Compared to that, Snyder just seems like he has a grade-schooler's understanding of what is "cool".

[@doobadood]

​@@TheLewisDawgto be fair, there's like a million 40k reference/ripoff out there across every media, and this is only one of them.

[@TheLewisDawg]

@@doobadood Oh I can believe that. I was being hyperbolic, but just to reiterate, I am not complaining about the name "Imperium", it's more about all the various visual and conceptual choices that scream 40k. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but you'd think a director who pitches Rebel Moon as a space saga to rival the genre's greatest would be able to give it a unique visual identity.

[@LukeLovesRose]

Ha! Good one!

[@treybaker5440]

Respect. You didn't have to do this. You didn't have to subject yourself to a longer cut of this "film". But I am so grateful, and looking forward to it.

[@Vohtwomax]

The directors cut is LONGER?! Jesus

[@samzilla567]

@@Vohtwomax Combined of both films, the Director's Cut of Rebel Moon clocks in at 6 hours.

[@club213542]

i watched it and i hurt in ways i never thought possible damned if i could make it more than ten mins into part 2 i mean it hurt my head ta watch.

[@DD-zh4by]

Disrespect. He talks too much and needs to edit and does nothing but recite the plot..

[@Kaleiddmode]

​@DD-zh4by his videos are not for KZbin Shorts viewers nor for those with short attention spans 😆

[@mudkip4ever]

"Movie quality is a lie. There is only Grain." "Through Grain, I gain Netflix funding." "Through Netflix funding, I make bad Movies." "Through bad movies, I gain attention." "Through attention I can record my barely disguised fetishes". "The Hamburgler will Reeeeee." - Tenant of Darth Snyder the Hack.

[@DogeickBateman]

You forgot the teeth

[@Willrocs]

😂

[@PhazonEnder]

That is perfect.

[@jroggs85]

To be a farmer in such times is to be a single grain amongst untold billions. It is to live in the slowest and most drawn-out harvest imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of tractors and combines, for so much has been lost in continuity, never to be fixed in the re-edit. Forget the promise of plot and character, for in the grim dark Snyder cut there is only wheat. There is no feast amongst the barns, only an eternity of montage and slow-mo, and the irrigation of thirsting crops.

[@UsmevavyPanacek]

@@mudkip4everHidden barley fetish:)

[@jacobhuppertz5625]

"How many grains does it take to Zachtivate a light bulb" lol what a line

[@TrajGreekFire]

Zack discovering grain is like Boogie discovering nihilism

[@USSMariner]

I *almost* want a Boogie biopic directed by Snyder. IMAGINE THE SLOW MO SUB CLUB JIGGLE

[@fulcrum6760]

@@USSMarinerA man like Snyder would glorify Boogie. Get fucking Oz Perkins or Todd Phillips.

[@scottski02]

@@USSMariner Slow-mo shots of Boogie's meat apron

[@bensadfleck9972]

''one for me and one for the hooker'' scene but it's in slow motion and takes over 3 minutes of screentime

[@matejfryd3224]

​@@USSMariner Slowmo begging for money

[@lost_pantheon]

The fact that the Jimmy Robots are explicitly shown to be the King's personal bodyguards and then AREN'T THERE during the one scene where he needed his uber-powerful bodyguards was driving me nuts, and I'm so glad it was brought up here.

[@Double-R-Nothing]

The Suicide Bomber Pokémon alone justified the director's cuts existence.

[@smd1876]

🤣🤣🤣

[@NickiRusin]

something something Butlerian Jihad

[@AnvilPictures]

What’s that Pokémon… itssss Kamikaze “Kamikaze, Kamikaze!”

[@idsbraam]

While funny it also undermines large parts of the good vs evil part of the setting. Now it is clear the evil dudes don't kill on sight, and the good guys actually use terrorism (and are willing to sacrifice intelligent pets (wait, intelligent pets, they keep intelligent beings in cages?), as suicide bombers). The whole Aris plotline has this problem, according to him (in the movie at least, the books make it clear he knows differently) his mom and sisters are alive and held captive, so he now has no reason to rebel, as that would murder his family (This is also the reason why the murder of his mom and sisters makes no sense (granted this isn't the only media which does this, altered carbon has the same problem, but at least there it is the main plot)).

[@amorphousdc]

😂

[@MistbornTaylor]

"This is mature content in most immature way" is a banger line and perfectly describes Rebel Moon. Great video.

[@nomansblog2025]

The movie needed more exploding monkeys

[@Skids0800]

As Count Dooku once said: Twice the pride, the double the bloat

[@HateshWarkio]

Twice the grain to double the slow-mo

[@ringe1008]

Twice the flare, double the blur

[@wiwhwiwh1241]

Twice the game, double the fame

[@KingKamor2]

Man, that artwork at 00:13 is actually really fucking good. Zack doesn't deserve to be in the same universe as any of the artists he's roped into this mess.

[@klaatunecktie7906]

Snyder meticulously draws every frame of all of his movies. There’s a 99% chance this image originated with him. He’s always been good with composition. His main issues are with storytelling and emotionality

[@TJK10]

@@klaatunecktie7906 It’s almost like his craft should be music videos, and other comparably short/compact mediums, lol. But I suppose I’m just retreading ground now.

[@klaatunecktie7906]

@@TJK10 or a director for hire with minimal story influence and a strong producer to keep him in check. But yeah, I agree

[@merphul]

I couldn't stomach the idea of watching the director's cuts. You have chosen this cursed existence. Respect.

[@Riptide555]

So a thought occurs: If the imperium needs the Kali in order to warp travel, that means they have a fixed limit to how many of them they can make, or at least make and have the ship be warp capable, meaning the destruction off a kali is a severe strategic loss. Of course this may be me giving this more thought then Snyder did.

[@MajorSmurf]

Well if you want to delve into deeper into the rabbit hole of hold up how does this work. The kali are shown to be super dimensional beings who can tp on command so... how were they captured in the first place? If the imperium didn't have access to hyperdrive before the Kali, how did they find them? Travelling from one planet to another can months if not years of someone's lifespan. If the imperium did have the tech to capture not one but an entire host of these creatures than their technology is vastly superior than what we see. It would also mean that they have old tech that can perform the same function of space travel without relying on massacring people to feed the engine. That's a very expensive process for fuel. You can't use the 40K excuse of technology is diminishing so god capturing tech no longer exists because we have no evidence of that occurring so they captured these creatures what a few hundred years ago and just decided oh let's put these limited number of super powered beings into ships that can be shot down at any moment and than hope the god-like being on the loose doesn't come after us out for a need of revenge. The set-up also shows that they have to be kept in a sleep like state as they're so powerful and that process involves feeding them lifeforce energy to either convert it or power the hyperdrive which means we can presume that they use the life-force energy naturally anyway. That means the kali aren't nice creatures if they require an entire cities worth of people to use their powers. If there was any world building you can guarantee these "gods" did some messed up shit but that would paint the imperium as possibly doing something good for the universe which would do against the theming of making you feel sad for the trapped space god.

[@Elden_Lean]

I appreciate the sacrifice of your sanity so we could have something exponentially more entertaining than the actual film itself

[@crashandersen602]

is it possible we will see one of the spider-babies do a Kill Bill and go hunting across the universe looking for an East Asian swordswoman with robot hands?

[@Violaphobia]

Rebel Moon Part VII: A Bag of Spiders

[@doublep1980]

@@crashandersen602 Spoiler Alert: Asian Swordswoman dies in Part 2, during the big battle with the Non-Imperium of Mankind.

[@Emanon...]

If the character was properly written, I actually wouldn't mind that Kora was a callous killer that gradually develops a sense of conscience and morals, but is still ruled by "ends justify the means".

[@foxfire9124]

Zack Snyder is mature in the way that a middle schooler is. They both think that swearing, adult content, and general edginess is what makes someone/something mature, and both have nothing in terms of emotional intellegence, critical thinking, and restraint: the qualities that actually form maturity.

[@r3dr4te963]

Basically on the age where he want to "look cool" than "actually cool".

[@clarkmichaels822]

My favourite thing about Snyder is that he's an Edgy Cool Guy (tm) but also a Christian who can't resist shoving Jesus allegories into everything he does.

[@klaatunecktie7906]

@@clarkmichaels822I think it’s more that Jesus imagery, to him, is a short cut to aLlEgOrY tHeReFoRe SmArT

[@enotsnavdier6867]

@clarkmichaels822 The main problem with Snyder's use of Christian imagery is that it's pointless in his films. Like, he doesn't use it to parallel something in his movies. And he doesn't use it to make a point as to the nature and themes of either his own stories or the Christian stories. So the only thing you can conclude is that he uses Christian symbols as like a fucking Marvel movie comic book easter egg or something. It's like "omg dude, it's a Jesus reference!!!"

[@gamerstheater1187]

That awkward moment when a kids show explores more mature themes

[@Empress_Theresa]

I love how Zack thinks attempt murder is not actually a crime. 😊 "You tried to kill a litle girl, but failed. You're good to go!"

[@matthewcollins4773]

To quote Sideshow Bob: "Do they give a Nobel Prize for *attempted* chemistry?"

[@jessnalulila5709]

He forgot that just because you failed doesn't exclude the crime

[@DisFantasy]

Boromir died for trying to take the ring from Frodo.

[@SimioCaos101Monkey]

ZS: [Makes Rebel Moon] RFT: It's Not Very Good. ZS: [Remakes Rebel Moon] RFT: Finally, a worthy opponent!

[@undergnomes6248]

Sees tentacle go inside other tentacle. "Did... Did it literally just screw itself?"

[@NdieCity]

@@undergnomes6248 I like to imagine it was the alien doing a finger-going-into-a-hole gesture with its tentacles like it's looking at the camera and saying "look, audience, weird alien sex!"

[@slandbloodborn9752]

I was noticing here, this film seems to work much more for Aris than Kora. He is a character who, from what we can see, still suffers from his actions (not being able to repair the ship and talking about his past bothers him), he is a character who doesn't have much choice, as he is just a private, a character who has no faith in the warriors, who loses control after almost having another important thing stolen (Sam almost being killed) and who in the end, has to go after the princess of the empire who destroyed everything from him. I don't know, the film I think would be better with him or a character like him as the protagonist

[@dean_l33]

The movie would work much better if Korra was just removed and have Aris as the main character. At least then it'd be a star war knock off

[@Mgauge]

Him being a scrappy young underdog defecting from the Imperium out of disgust and resentment guided by the bitter, guilt-ridden old soldier Korra is a far better starting point for a plot. So of course Snyder doesn't realize it and focuses on the blandly "cool" middle school notebook sketches he calls characters and almost fetishistic shots of wheat instead.

[@marcosrecio4062]

He's basically a better Finn that actually has an arc and gets some pussy

[@gur262]

The real vision is watching it all on half speed, for that extra slowmo

[@NickiRusin]

the real director's cut, double the runtime

[@Hippo_Hegemony]

1% speed

[@biotrekker]

I spontaneously burst out laughing at the 'tooth mosaic" .

[@juniorgamersfire1184]

😦

[@koreyjeffers6963]

The whole video my mind was screaming "this is just 40k but shitty"

[@MetulManiac]

So modern 40k

[@gamerstheater1187]

so just 40k

[@jamesdreads7828]

This is quickly becoming the best media review/analysis channel on yt. No notes.

[@peterjensen2483]

Imperium - needs organic material to power their spaceship. Also imperium - destroys planets before harvesting organic material..

[@Empress_Theresa]

Also feeds bones to their C'tan instead of actual organic matter. How easy would be to replace those bones with arms, legs, and guts dripping with blood?

[@pogo8050]

@@Empress_Theresaisn’t coal also organic matter, technically?

[@Empress_Theresa]

@pogo8050 Yes, but technically, coal only serves as fuel to generate heat. It's implied that they feed organic material directly to the discount C'tan. Bones are composed of 60% inorganic components, that's why they are not regarded as a good source of sustenance or energy.

[@petriew2018]

@@Empress_Theresa if you wanna get technical, the most efficient way of doing this is just vatgrown algae. If all you need is organic matter, that's about as pure as it gets and is far more economical

[@Cassandra112]

The thing is Zack figured something out here. Just like your video games with patches to fix bugs, and other problems, he can just patch movies and rerelease them. Next he'll release DLC for Rebel moon, and with it patch 2.1.567 of rebel moon fixing more plot holes and errors.

[@jessnalulila5709]

He releases patchs to make fix the most mundane issues while the rest of the project get's worse

[@gamerstheater1187]

The funny part is that is what's happening, he's making a short film about the Kali and multiple comic books

[@jonrawkz4064]

@@jessnalulila5709 All according to Todd Howard

[@matthewcollins4773]

The Blood Axes really are the worst guests ever, aren't they? Crash on your couch, eat your food, invite bloody inevitable retribution from.the most powerful and evil faction in the universe, and then slip out the back door before the house burns down to repeat the cycle. Maybe that's the master plan. Bring down the Motherworld by having it smash all its planets in a game of Blood Axe whack-a-mole?

[@GearShotgun]

I just find it hilarious that the people Kora goes to for help turn out to be just as selfish and useless as she is. They hung out on a world, got it destroyed because they were there, and left everyone on it to die. Kora wasn't responsible for the Imperium showing up like the Blood Axes, but her first instinct was to run and leave everyone else to their fate.

[@Latin-J]

The audacity to call themselves freedom fighters is ridiculous. They are cowards who betray and abandon everyone who helps them.

[@marcosdheleno]

they should be called the red locusts.

[@CharlesUrban]

Zack Snyder stopped aging at 13.

[@Empress_Theresa]

I would say 8.

[@vrika4280]

I would say middle point around 11, when he stumbled upon gay tentacle hentai somehow, and his life found true meaning.

[@fallenangel2060]

@@vrika4280 to be honest, tentacles can change anyone's perspective

[@nont18411]

The rest is edging

[@simonesalvatore9345]

Tbf we should be thankful to Zack Snyder when you really think about it. He’s singlehandedly paying off RFT’s rent for at least the next five months through his godawful movies.

[@TrajGreekFire]

The Toothtaker

[@Ramsey276one]

O M G XD

[@emiledlund9559]

I took to calling the tooth mosaic priest the "fascist tooth fairy"

[@billjacobs521]

Why did he rip off a bad character from the terrible Chibnal era of Doctor Who?

[@Ramsey276one]

@@billjacobs521 BIG *ONION*

[@captainahab2518]

For even more symbolism, "Isa" is the Arabic name for Jesus that means the savior, which Snyder picked for the magical princess name

[@pogo8050]

I’m an Arabic speaker and this did not occur me to me until you said this lmao.

[@Hippo_Hegemony]

Yeah, it was pointed out from other films he puts Christian connects, or tries to make charaters Christ like.

[@smd1876]

My first thought was "it's a norse rune."

[@Darkington]

I'm almost convinced Zack's Think Tank is trolling him. But, at the same time, a space ship that runs on skulls sounds *very* Snyder...

[@Carewolf]

You don't think he got ChatGPT to write the script?

[@Darkington]

@@Carewolf ChatGPT would've given us something more coherent

[@Carewolf]

@@Darkington They have a token limit that means the consistency can only stretch back a few pages of text. So wild inconsistency is guaranteed with larger scripts written by AI. But yeah, it probably wouldn't break consistency as fast as Snyder did in Rebel Moon 2

[@myst3752]

"Even a broken idiot will be right twice in a rebel moon". Thank you for the laughs. Great video

[@zephyr8072]

Zack: "The King was a ruthless genocidal bastard until Space Jesus sprinkled golden pixie dust on him and made him slightly better." Audience: "So you're saying we should have sympathy for a ruthless genocidal bastard who's only not so now due to magic brainwashing?" Zack: "Um.. er.. uh... the King was _always_ a nice guy who just didn't know his empire of snarling space Nazis were doing snarling space Nazi stuff. I fixed it!"

[@Ale-dd3ek]

So either the not very clever Jesus allegory is another Miquella or the dude was already brain dead

[@jimbrown5091]

What troubles me is the people who say "Ooh! Blood splatter and titties!! This is a great movie now!"

[@martinjrgensen8234]

His fans are a cult.

[@MatheusHenrick-uv9gt]

Lmao you just predicted the trailer for his new slop

[@gamerstheater1187]

For me it's alright

[@preppingforthezombieapocal7230]

You actually make these movies interesting with your analysis

[@Emanon...]

Snyder, like Abrams, is a talentless hack. Snyder has his "iconic visuals" and "slow-mo" crutches and Abrams has his "mystery box" and "same plot" reboots. They both need to go away, count their stacks of money, and make room for actual talent.

[@luclin92]

@Emanon... funny enough both have their best stuff being done when they have actual restrictions. Which is pretty funny, and telling when you see how things are nowadays

[@Emanon...]

@@luclin92 Their best stuff is when they have a clear set of material to adapt from. 300, Watchmen, Star Trek and Star Wars (ep 7) were beat for beat retelling the exact same stories... You can't put cream on a turd and call it chocolate Sunday.

[@Bucketus.Lord.of.Buckets]

The level of hubris is almost impressive, having full control over your movies, then releasing a "director's cut" of them with new names. All while adding microscopic substance and some edgy "style"

[@dean_l33]

If nothing else, you gotta give Zach props for how he could convince Netflix to commit to giving him this much power and money

[@lukelim5094]

​@@dean_l33we need to admit synder knows what kind of concept we the audience likes to look at in sci fi & fantasy. That is how he sell these concepts. But the movies he made is like burgers made with subpar ingredients and skill and yet he call himself head chef

[@lsixty30]

Yeah I was wondering about that, how is there even a director’s cut ??

[@xrufus7x468]

@@lsixty30 It was always planned to have one. Theoretically this gives Netflix 4 movies for the price of 2 and they get do double dip on the content and hype cycle and it probably would have worked with better movies but they bombed so hard that there was no anticipation for the new versions.

[@Wfalen]

Netflix seems to throw money and power at anyone with a bit of a name and comes pitching something big.

[@samzilla567]

One thing that's funny about giving Aris a backstory is that it's exactly beat for beat the same as Kora's backstory. Rendering her redundant just like every other character's backstory.

[@matthewcollins4773]

*Everyone* has the same backstory. I look forward to the confusion when all the bad guys realise that they too share the backstory and there isn't actually an Imperium outside of all of them thinking they've been tricked or forced into joining it. How awkward would that be?

[@Mgauge]

@@samzilla567 Especially given how minor of a character he is. Which is saying something considering how the "main cast" are all interchangeable edgy action figures so shallow that you can't be bothered to remember their names.

[@LibertyLocalizer]

Except Aris's beats actually work. He was a child when he killed his father. He had an actual good reason. He never let his comrades do any raping. He was only a grunt. He has some slight chemistry with his villager romantic interest.

[@paulgibbon5991]

The thing that bugs me is...why does he NEED a super-special melodramatic angsty backstory that gives him a personal reason to hate the Empire? Why can't he just be a regular guy who decided to do the right thing? Sometimes, people fight evil because just they, you know, realise it's evil.

[@Mgauge]

@@paulgibbon5991 He could have been some naive kid who bought into the propaganda only to be disillusioned when witnessing the brutality and depravity of the Imperium firsthand, but that's too complicated and not edgy enough enough for Snyder.

[@KellAnderson]

Theory: Belisarius created the cult of the dead king because he wanted to secure legitimicacy and claim he is acting on behalf of the king. It's the best I got.

[@ferrishthefish]

This plot point doesn't seem terribly implausible to me. Belisarius is inventing a state religion for a theocracy that is under his control. The more cultish and devoted said religion is, the more easily Belisarius can wield that power. So it makes sense to deify someone that the citizens already liked. It also makes sense to martyr that someone first; makes them easier to deify and also means they can't get funny ideas about opposing Belisarius later on account of being dead. If anything, the problem with this plot point is that Belisarius should have deified the princess over the king.

[@petriew2018]

@@ferrishthefish there's a bunch of massive world building problems with this, though. On the surface it's plausible, many Roman emperors were deified after death by their successors in just this fashion. But that was only possible because Rome was a polytheistic society with a very loose threshold for what counts as a god. Anyone could worship anything so long as also worshipped the cult of the Emperor. Problem in this context is Zack goes out of his way to drive home how intolerant his Imperium is with the use of gratuitous se*ual violence.... because he's totally an adult, doncha' know... This is a society with a deeply ingrained pre-existing religion already established as extremely intolerant of any other beliefs, so the idea that deifying the dead king would be helpful to the new dictator makes little actual sense, if anything that'd cause nothing but internal strife between the loyalists to the new government and the entrenched theocrats. Unless there's already an Imperial cult, in which case it's of no significance.... So yeah, it's a typical Snyderism : passes the first smell test, but you apply any amount of braincells and you're left wondering how this man has a job....

[@alexholker1309]

@@petriew2018 North Korea and the Eternal President Kim Il Sung were the example that came to mind for me.

[@richardd5645]

@@ferrishthefish It's a working theory but would have worked better if the Imperium of Man became the way it was after the assassination, but as far as we can tell they were always like that. The aesthetics seem unchanged apart from the fact they now have a regent instead of a King.

[@ladyphoenixgrey3923]

Snyder (peaking from around a random corner like the craptastic perv he is): “Oh so thaaaaat’s why! I knew I had a good reason for at least one of these baffling choices I made! I can’t wait to tell everyone!”

[@Davon85J]

Zack Snyders obsession with sexual assault and rape in his films is so fucking weird and gross. The whole barn sequence and the lead up to it with the soldiers had me cringing the entire time.

[@billjacobs521]

I wouldn't call it an obsession but it is a childish and edgy way to make characters really bad so you're happy when they die. It has a place but when it's done so flippantly, it's almost cartoonish, like haha, grape is funny.

[@martinjrgensen8234]

It has also become a crutch for many authors. Quite a lot of fantasy books with female leads have sa as a backstory

[@doublep1980]

​​@@martinjrgensen8234Bakker's " Second Apocalypse " series comes to mind and not just the women in these books get raped, men get it also. Hell, there's an entire race of basically rapey Orks in them.

[@Handle35667]

And Snyder’s daughter allegedly took her own life.

[@CorruptedDogg]

Now let's see how KZbin tries to duck you over once again! And word to the mighty algorithm, you cannot deny how much I engage with this video. I've never been this engaged in my entire life. Engaga

[@Darkington]

Forget Return of the King, This is the Extended Cut comparison we've REALLY been waiting for.

[@jessnalulila5709]

We've been waiting for youtubers to trash it

[@emselurniak]

Him using 40K names will never not annoy me.

[@robinbickerdike3076]

i have my own minor nitpick which does feel like im spitting into an ocean but can we talk about the clumsy allegory for slave labor that is the.......bone shovelers (or whatever) and how the whole thing wouldn't have to exist if conveyor belts exist in this universe, if the imperium perhaps had the same level of technological development as your average grocery store. Thats been bothering me for a while.

[@Wfalen]

It is terrible to shovel bones into a furnace when you could have conveyor belts. But it's good and pure to do backbreaking manual labor on a farm instead of using a damn tractor.

[@ageekywriter]

Blink twice if you are in trouble random. We need to know if you're being held hostage random. Lol, I am hyped to see this good sir, thank you for suffering in our place.

[@Double-R-Nothing]

Im proud to say that while watching the movies, I heard your voice in my head pointing out whenever a scene doesn't advance plot or characters, or when a character's actions contradict what's been shown about them. I have my own little Shoulder Charlie

[@wileycain1476]

We learned that she grained all day and grained all night and everyone grained together 😭🤣. This is fantastic 👏🏻

[@OrionJA]

I think the use of "pagan." here is defensible. Pagan comes from a Latin word that originally meant "rural" in Roman times. When the Empire Christianized, the urban underclass and then urban elites converted first, and the old religions hung on longer in the countryside. This is how "pagan" came to mean "non-Christian." This empire is clearly meant to evoke Rome, with the repentent conqueror-turned-reformer Emperor as a kind of Constantine and the Princess as a sort of Jesus. So for the army to consider the frontier worlds they sack to be "pagan" actually makes good sense on multiple linguistic and historical levels, if you ask me.

[@billjacobs521]

Agreed. Not sure of a better word to be used here. "Witches" alone wouldn't really work because then I would think they are practitioners of dark magic or something.

[@matteoriva4849]

@@billjacobs521 what about "heretics" ? I also believe it's not limited to religion but encompasses cultural ideologies and philosophies different from the prominent ones

[@corruptjet6134]

Oh sweet Jesus we're going back in yeah? Well, time to go make some popcorn.

[@NotDeadYetJim]

i watched the original cuts out of morbid curiosity but couldn’t bring myself to endure the extended. Thanks RFT for going the extra mile!

[@Edward-W]

You cranked this out crazy fast, wow! Definitely glad to have more Rebel Moon to tear apart

[@joseignaciomontes5712]

I nominate the exploding pet for an S class character with wheelly boy

[@EarJuice]

What we really need is a 24/7 livestream of AI Anthony Hopkins talking about super deep nothingness, and how the potato is life and that we should worship the golden potato.

[@ForseeFantasy]

Unfortunate fact: With the additional hour dedicated to the directors cut, at least 10 minutes of it is dedicated to pointless S×x scenes.

[@jonsimpson6240]

Teddies...

[@Matuse]

Snyder needs to work with someone who can tell him "No" without fear of being fired. The movie is aggressively awful.

[@Matuse]

I must give mad respect to Random for having such polished, detailed, hilarious content with so few videos to build his craft. These deconstructions are Nth level great.

[@florealecat]

anthony botkins sat next to a deer and said "i'm gonna whack me off a piece of that!" 10/10 that one broke me

[@ColonCornwallace]

The constant cuts to Always Sunny are so… So good

[@nygmla]

Einstein: The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Zack snyder: what do you mean?

[@tallulahbeaverhausen4382]

Could you please repeat it... in slow motion ?

[@ravencrovax]

​@@tallulahbeaverhausen4382 and with more grain?

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Throw dice, einstein?

[@vrika4280]

Zack: So, what you are saying is... moree tentacle porn? Got it.

[@poissonsumac7922]

How can it NOT be good if it has a T-posing gremlin!?

[@vespenegas261]

Spontaneously exploding T-posing gremlins is a mature take on Babu Frik.

[@georgekostaras]

That’s just Freddy freaker

[@fatjoe460]

Lost it at the parts (in the director cut) were Korra came off even more evil compared to the original cut. Zack Synder has been taking the wrong lessons from modern Star Wars (among many things).

[@richardd5645]

I would have said this is a step backwards, trying to add nuance is at least commendable. Here the bad guys appear to be evil, because they're evil and the good guys seem to keep expecting them not behave like evil people. Actually, I take that back, the only person who was flat out evil with no redeeming qualities I can think of in Star Wars was Palps. Even Moth Tarkin didn't flee when he thought he might actually be in danger. It's hard not to think of the Family Guy take where Han goes "you going to the party where we celibate killing hundreds of thousands of people?" 😛

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

I think it's actually pretty big brained to deify your slain enemy -- as long as you can fool everybody into thinking that you were friends and that you were his chosen successor. I think Seven Samurai but Warhammer 40,000 is a good idea... If only it hadn't been _Zack Snyder's idea..._

[@rgoodwyn]

As someone who defended Snyder for years, from 2004 until 2016, it really sucks to see that the more creative freedom he gets the worse his movies become. It truly seems like he needs someone to reign in his more indulgent tendencies. His movies have become almost satirically over the top versions of of his older style. Even schlock like 300 has more dignity than his newer movies.

[@adampatino5372]

That sounds eerily similar to what happened with George Lucas and Star Wars. The OT was perfect because he had to listen to other people's suggestions. Then once he got around to making the prequel trilogy, he was able to dictate, err I mean direct, them as he saw was fit. Furthermore, as if that wasn't enough, Lucas then went back and fkd with the OT (adding all the extra cgi aliens, like those stupidass, screaming singers in the cantina as well as having Greedo shoot first). Power is truly as dangerous as it is intoxicating. Isn't it.

[@rgoodwyn]

@@adampatino5372 Oh hell yeah it is very much the same type of scenario. A lot of people forget that he didn't direct or write the script for Empire and mostly the same for ROTJ. He is a good idea man but the nuts and bolts of making movies and writing good dialogue are not his strengths lol. Too much creative control can be a very bad thing for some people lol.

[@goosegas2087]

​@@adampatino5372Or what about the many people in star wars like Dave Felloni, J.J. Abrams, Ryan Johnson... like there's not exactly a shortage of these people.

[@Wfalen]

Rian Jonhson is good when he does something smaller scale, like his Knives Out movies.

[@rayvonvelez3129]

Snyder: Grain more GRAIN

[@bmardiney]

"...and adds it to a tooth tapestry"....."Alright" I laughed so hard at this. Perfect.

[@shadowdemon2272]

Zack Snyder: When you manage to make a set of movies so bad, people begin to go back and question the Director's Cut they (literally) had to petition for you to get for YEARS...

[@bluestar2622]

Was really excited when I heard that there was going to be a Rebel Moon director's cut, because I knew you would prolly make a video

[@Alpha23TV]

After reading some reviews of the directors cut online (no way was I gonna watch after suffering thru the first movie… I skipped Scargiver… thankfully); I was shocked that I didn’t even know it was out, and also see that it is just another example of Zack using his directors cut to paste over the slop that the original version got terribly wrong. Maybe one day I’ll give it 30 minutes to see if it’s redeemable, but that’s a strong MAYBE. After watching this review… nahh it’s a *ABSOLUTE* pass… Also… major points for “interchangeable edgy sock puppets” 😂… this is Rebel Moon’s contribution to the media landscape… REBEL MOON DIRECTORS CUT: An Immature Person’s Idea of Mature Content…

[@Emanon...]

The director's cut was certainly longer. And that's about everything I can say about it. Here's an idea: People need to read the script before they greenlight a movie for 150 million $.

[@Latin-J]

The people who read the scripts are out of touch millionaires with zero artistic integrity who are surrounded by yes men and only got into that position because they are related to some other rich untalented person.

[@vrika4280]

To be fair, Netflix is famous to greenlit trash, as Steam half a$$ed indie games, so it makes sense Zack made the move there. It does surprise me though how he basically took the early access game model of releasing garbage, getting feedback, redoing/adding stuff to release it again, and still be equally trash to worse on some things.

[@101Mant]

@@Emanon... Pretty sure they don't read the script, just listen to the pitch. I mean Pitch Meeting is a documentary right?

[@AnvilPictures]

@@vrika4280that’s not entirely true they have given us some incredible shows. The Sandman and Dead Boy detectives, Dark Crystal show,

[@Wfalen]

Netflix execs don't know how to read. Or what is an actual good idea. Actually I think they are just some form of AI that believes anything a human will tell them that "This is what people want"after which they give that human unlimited amounts of money.

[@jessicaguarneri8460]

The literal only thing I will say about the director's cut is that the...cover art? is REALLY cool.

[@pogo8050]

Holy mother of god Random. You did NOT have to work this fast. I can’t wait to see it though 😮‍💨

[@TheEclecticGoat]

I probably won’t be able to make the premiere of this because work is crazy today, but your stuff (and Platoon’s) are the absolute best when I have to do long drives! Actually makes me look forward to them!

[@D_Adrian]

same here. 1.) both are clever 2.) i like both voices and speech patterns ...very nice listening experience when driving

[@richardd5645]

They started the movie suggesting Kora was a brainwashed soldier on a redemption arc, which would have been fine if they had stuck to that; then her actions are fine, sort of? I'm mean she's still a merciless killer, just their merciless killer (like the Punisher or John Wick). but then why is she shocked when Kai betrays them and why on earth does she think surrendering to Noble will spare the village or that anyone in the Imperium of Man can be trusted to keep their word given her history? If I was generous, I would say she is a brainwashed soldier on a redemption arc, but she is also really, really stupid (as is the King). To add insult to injury, Titus indicates that he knew all along who she was but thought he would wait to reveal that the Princess is not dead until after the suicide mission, because, you know, there will plenty of time then. Also, how did he know? I thought he'd been at the Colosseum all this time, drinking himself to death?

[@cpt.cookie2271]

What? How many rebel moons did Zacky cause, one was already too much. Though on the upside, we get quality content from you good sir

[@tmoney360]

Snyder is the King of excess and bloat. He creates "epics" with no soul and his ideas of maturity resemble a teenager who just discovered porn and read his first issue of the boys. And even worse is he carries himself like he and his movies should be viewed in the same legendary light as the movies and properties he steals his ideas from. and i'm sorry but every time I see his fans talk about how the gore, sex and nudity make his movies adult and mature I picture Beavis and Butthead sitting on their couch. "Woah. bewbs!! this kicks ass. muuaahehehehe. Naked chicks rule!! Boooyyynnnngggg!!! "

[@Ramsey276one]

10:08 Used SELF-DESTRUCT!!

[@telescopicfish]

That was pretty bloody fast: so I assume the issues are so obvious and bad. I am hyped

[@revanne5012]

5:24 in the scene where the royal family gets stabbed, you see that they are followed into the big room with the red-robed guys, so the priests aren't explicitly there to worship the Slain King, which just raises even more questions about their weird religious beliefs

[@sophiaaldous3199]

The use of the ‘Fargo’ clip to describe the general looking generalish in a general way is especially chucklicious. 👍🏻

[@tiggle5485]

1/10, not enough GRABBYROBOTCHAIRS

[@vespenegas261]

Robot-chair, Robot-chair, Does whatever Robot-chair does.

[@MrSpeedysam60]

Opens up, catches guys, Lets 'em go once paralysed, Look out, here come the robot chairs

[@vespenegas261]

@@MrSpeedysam60 You just made my day sir and my hat is off to you. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

[@DadsBud11]

I love the amount of Emperors New Groove you are able to work into your videos.

[@Nokaret]

I wonder where the extended scenes would go on a tier list like the one used in LotR 😆

[@Glockenfampf]

Zack really seems to like one specific scene of Gladiator 🤔

[@melfree2545]

“This video is going to require something of a baseline knowledge of Rebel Moon, which I know is a rather sadistic thing for me to expect of you…” listen my guy, you underestimate my ability to listen to media critique of media I’ve never seen while deep cleaning my house.

[@Katarn84]

Oh God… just got to the scene where Buckbeak kills his owner (in your videos, I will NOT waste more time than the 25 minutes I flushed watching part one in december). Those bloodsprays might just belong to an Asylum movie for how they are cheap and bad…

[@TerribleHeresy]

I swear every time I rewatch your previous RM videos I have new questions and this cut isn't helping. Like with the Kali. If they are what allows FTL travel then does the Imperium have a breeding program for them in order to provide engines for new warships? If not then is there a limited supply of them and if so then how many? If they are limited then in theory you could attrition the Imperium in to defeat though I doubt the likelihood of that. Also, how do the Blood Axes travel via FTL? Do they have a carrier for their smaller ships that has it's own Kali held prisoner? I can come up with ideas but I'm not writing this for them. I'm just not going to think about it any more or my brain might commit frog boy. Great work, looking forward to RoP S2 being a complete SNAFU.

[@MajorSmurf]

I want to know how they caught them in the first place. The bad guys have the tech to capture a "god" who seemingly can teleport at will but not a planet dedicated to food supplies? Hell kali seem so incredibly inefficient if the food source they feed on is lifeforce or skeletons. We do know that other ships are capable of lightspeed because korra goes on a happy little adventure without a Kali. So why did they even bother with wasting god knows how many resources into tech capable of capturing Kali and than retrofitting a system into your ships to use a limited number of Kali instead. It would be pointless waste of resources if you already have warp drive or does it offer some advantage? Is it instant tp instead of delayed tp, yet as shown the instant tp requires a recharge and refill of skeletons so... not really an advantage. Like yippie come out of warp drive, see an enemy fleet and can't retreat because you need to feed your Kali. Doesn't it also imply that the Kali are the hungry hippos of the soul eating variety who might suck up or massacre entire planet's population before they were captured to keep themselves alive or powered? Wouldn't that mean the Imperium had a reason to hunt them down, making it more grey than keeping them asleep and a prisoner for shits and giggles. Also why would you put something as valuable as a Kali into a ship that can be easily destroyed.

[@petriew2018]

Kora's small drop ship somehow got to Veldt on it's own. This is a well established fact in the movie. Craft that small are capable of FTL. They MUST be. Just mentioning that because it puts into context just how stupid the 'kali' thing it. It's a limited use, difficult to acquire, resource intensive, space consuming waste of time because every other ship in the movie can traverse the known universe faster and more efficiently then the dreadnought the world building here is so..... Yikes...

[@mwallrabenstein5215]

Just stumbled across yer cheannel. I had fun warching your lotr series. Thank you for your effort

[@Empress_Theresa]

At first, I was laughing. Now I'm crying. Imagine what a good director could do with all this money and talent. What a waste!

[@theomnitorium7476]

When this showed on Netflix, my curiosity finally got the best of me and I started watching it. I bailed less than 10 minutes in after that sickophant opening scene. What's wrong with Snyder these days?

[@JimParshall]

I have actually interviewed people from Cuba and Vietnam that were forced by communists to do what that boy had to do to his father. I find it interesting that Zack Snyder decided to use that because it is not an unheard of practice as communist take over a country. I have interviewed two people from Cuba and one from Vietnam that unfortunately actually had to do that to save their moms or to save their sister respectively. To say that it is one of the most horrific ways to torture a person is an understatement.

[@billjacobs521]

Sounds perfect for a schlocky, childish sci-fi "action" movie! /s

[@paulgibbon5991]

I think it's more because Snyder has this weird fascination with children seeing their parents die.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

Not quite sure if it’s ever been mentioned but I just realised that both actors for Daario Naharis from GoT are in these films

[@jankostrhun8725]

On top of ripping the 40K like mad, someone probably also mention a bit of LoL lore and decided ton include Ruined King as well. I would normally find that connection pretty loose, but given the stuff Mr Edge Guy pulled.... I kinda expect a blue-haired girl with giant scissors to appear any moment now.

[@captainhurricane5705]

Zack's director's cut proves that he is a rather disturbed individual who really should not be allowed anywhere near a film studio.

[@BrawlTithed]

Brilliant video yet again, the suicide monkey scene might be one of the unintentionally funniest scenes of all time.

[@Monothefox]

I can't wait for this channel to cover "High Guardian Spice".

[@TestAcct46]

Eh, does anyone still care about (or even remember) that show? :P

[@dandydoodle4456]

Why bother

[@Monothefox]

@@dandydoodle4456 The ways in which the two are bad are surprisingly simmilar, but not for the same underlying reasons.

[@enocescalona]

I think i seen an article say Zack would want his "Director Cut" films to be "totally different films", let me see the quote..."the movies take place in like two different timelines. The PG-13 and the R-rated versions of the movie are almost alternate realities from each other, not like additional footage.” Like, Zack, you barely changed shit, lmao. Either plans changed or he genuinely wanted to lie to people. It makes me laugh how he makes Kora even more horrible as a person alongside the hilarity of explosive animals. You did great as always, RFT.

[@TheRealJabbergeist]

Rebel Moon gives new meaning to the term "film grain".

[@thijskoster9263]

For some reason, I find it incredibly inspiring when deeply flawed (or downright awful) films are picked apart by an absolutely fantastic analysis. And you, my friend, produce the best analyses out there. Honestly, I would love to see you give both versions of the Justice League this treatment... I'm sorry