Rebutting Genesis Apologetics = 2nd of 7 Alleged Myths

[@daviydviljoen9318]

An apologist once told me that I couldn't prove I had a brain, because I hadn't observed it... So I told him we could always get an MRI. He shut up after that...

[@soriacx]

So, the apologists only source of "argumentation" is a single, looong-winded "for the bible tells me so" (insert Paulogia jingle here...)

[@GoodAvatar-ut5pq]

I heard that for the first time the other day, the jingle, and it damn near had me spit out my coffee.

[@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596]

Precisely 🙋🏼‍♀️ and that jingle is neat.

[@Vadjong]

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[@garygood6804]

The jingle is from the song

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

Dont get me started of Paulogia. He used the story of the Woman commiting adultery being added later to start a landslide, which is original and was lost from the text in some region of the world. And he then denied to me it was ever a linchpin of any kind for him and that also, its not original. I dont want to use a Bart Ehrman serving food to him in a dog bowl meme about Paulogia but, on the other hand that jingle sort of asks for it.

[@chriswhitt6618]

After listening to this apologetic I can see how Wade / Roe can be overturned. These people are literally insane. That’s how I see it. They are crazy.

[@bsears85]

Except the Bible actually allows for abortion, and says that life starts at the first breath. Insane and hypocrites

[@chriswhitt6618]

@@bsears85 absolutely mate 👌

[@geraldmeehan8942]

Fanatical

[@alimo4610]

It’s not about religion though you can make that argument, Roe V Wade was always debatable even the late Justice Ginsberg thought so…

[@chriswhitt6618]

@@alimo4610 sure, but it’s a decision being made by ( mostly ) Christian zealot’s. It’s pandering to a demographic in the USA.

[@letefte]

I love how genesis apologetics goes from videos with an unfunny host lying to children, to two unfunny hosts lying to teenagers, to an unfunny voiceover lying to young adults. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[@yoloswagins1101]

John and Jane got some laughs from me for their poor execution. Dave and this voice over are dry as a bone.

[@simongiles9749]

Dave was creepy, John and Jane somewhat endearingly goofy. This series is just dull and lazy.

[@douglasrasmussen480]

Ra's videos are always open to comment, but most of the Answers In Genesis videos have comments turned off.says a great deal about AIG's lack of veracity and fear of contradictions.

[@warped_rider]

I miss Dick and Jane, they didn't sound like a computer generated voice telling me about this one weird trick that will destroy the billion dollar flashlight industry.

[@the-trustees]

The thing which remains constant is my desire to break their fecking jaws... 😐

[@Flockmeister]

You are relentless and I applaud you for it. I love it every time you debunk the Firmament because it was exactly the thing that flipped a switch in my brain 2 1/2 years ago. It was during the video of a speech you gave years ago. Many doubts had been building over years and after several day's of watching atheist content, your description of the Firmament as portrayed in the Bible let me finally realize that none of it was true. Thank you.

[@KianaWolf]

It's always a good day when someone returns to rationality.

[@fairwitness7473]

Welcome to the side with cookies and ethics (I'm sure there are lots that don't have any but I haven't met them yet)

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236]

You know what has no truth to it? Evolution.

[@fairwitness7473]

@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236 or.... the person who makes stupid claims without evidence... hmm

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236]

@@fairwitness7473 that’s what evolutionists do they force their religion to be taught in schools without showing evidence to support it.

[@DanielJaegerFilms]

Wow, just wow. I never thought about that! God supposedly created Adam and Eve naked, but once Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, making them aware of what is good and what is evil, they realized that it was wrong to be naked. So God basically created Adam and Eve wrong, or Adam and Eve did not actually have knowledge of what is actually good or evil. Never fails, I always learn something new in every one of your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@Scanner9631]

The whole Eden story reads as if God was the Devil in all the ways he lies. The Serpent tells the truth so can't be the Prince of Lies.

[@johnboettcher1962]

Yup. God’s a pervert.

[@johnboettcher1962]

@@Peekaboo-Kitty I want naked people in my garden.

[@Scanner9631]

@@Peekaboo-Kitty There is a American politician who produced a video "proving" that the anti-covid masks blocked oxygen. In a separate video he revealed "the truth" that he believed in. He believes that when God created Man in his image the image was the FACE which therefore cannot be covered. So God is just a face (no head apparently or wearing hats would also be sacrilege like covering the face). As part of his faking the oxygen blocking he used a device which he showed to measure the oxygen. If you look it up it has no oxygen detector. It detects CO2 which it didn't detect when he breathed on it without the mask because HE breathed on the buzzer. The "Students" he used for his test breathed on the CO2 detector (the students were actual his sons - part of the lie).

[@zemorph42]

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[@seraphonica]

It's amazing that most Christians scoff at Mormons for believing what they do, when Moses's and Joseph Smith's interactions with their claimed god are remarkably similar

[@GoodAvatar-ut5pq]

I wouldn't be surprised if Joseph Smith knew that, too.

[@ObjectiveEthics]

Lol of course Christians mock Mormons. The writings of Joseph Smith plagiarized Jewish and Christian traditions. Unfortunately for the Christians, they plagiarized the Jews who plagiarized the Babylonians who likely plagiarized the Summerian etc etc etc.

[@torreysauter8954]

I'd never made that connection (not a mormon or former mormon though). That's an idea I'll need to explore further

[@AbstractM0use]

I always loved how God making the stars was put in Genesis like a footnote. All of those vast, incomprehensibly distant stars' creation are "documented" as such: "He made the stars also." 😂

[@davebeach2343]

Yes, the deity in genesis spends days working on earth's details while the rest of our vast universe is given little time or attention. Fundamentalists use this as evidence for humanity's being more important than anybody else.

[@undecidedmiddleground5633]

A god-tier "P.S." if you will.

[@Akira625]

@@davebeach2343 I think it’s because the universe, as the Hebrews knew it, was a very small place.

[@kenbee1957]

After God was done with the monumental epitome of his creation that is earth, he realized it looked weird all by itself just hanging there...so he tossed together the whole rest of the universe. You know....for some background. So humans had something pretty to look at😅

[@jpdemer5]

He also made the light from all of those distant stars *already* on its way to Earth, so we could see them right away. He even got the red shifts right. You have to admire His attention to detail!

[@Soapy-chan_old]

16:50 by this logic, the Lord of the Rings story is historical. And we also got an actual writer's name and movies to solidify this.

[@patnewbie2177]

Then, as I saw one caller on an old episode of The Atheist Experience, they'll say "the Bible's been around longer" as if that means anything.

[@eh9618]

@@patnewbie2177 then all we have to do is point towards Zoroastrianism

[@letsomethingshine]

Many authors and directors!? Multiple perspectives for actual events!

[@danielmartin5632]

@@raysalmon6566 'seek for the sword that was broken....' And no, jesus did not fulfill the Jewish messianic prophesies.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

@@raysalmon6566 The bible also does not have messianic prophecies of which Jesus fullfilled all of them.

[@morlath4767]

"How can this genealogy not be historical?" - Have they not seen the Game of Thrones/ASOIAF family trees? Just by following the male line in this incestuous knot-weed, there are 24 generations, almost all with a date of birth, death, and most having a cause of death. By the gods! It's a historically accurate piece of information! Westeros must be a real place!

[@CoreyB88]

In the back of the novelization if Return of the King, there are several family trees for major lines of elves, men, and dwarves. Clearly the Lord of the Rings trilogy is historical fact as well.

[@GoodAvatar-ut5pq]

@@CoreyB88 Good lord, Tolkien was a f---ing dweeb. *I say that with all due affection*

[@benjaminmadrigalperez9010]

@@GoodAvatar-ut5pq he was THE dweeb

[@riloh58]

@@CoreyB88 - my mind went straight to the appendices of RotK when I heard that claim in the video.

[@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108]

Me, playing Crusader Kings 2: Family tree seens pretty big AND can be as insestious as the ones in the Bible, sometimes being more like a family tire rather than a tree. Sorry boyo, Game of Thrones got nothing on CK. The African Empire of Daura is historically accurate and most definetly annexed several chunks of Iberian Peninsula and territories that belonged to the Byzantine Empire through several holy wars and pagan crusades. Almost forgot: NATO already existed in the Middle Ages with several muslims, christian and pagan nations banding together in the form defensive pacts to stop Daura's territorial expansion. They failed miserably.

[@simongiles9749]

As soon as they mentioned Mt. St. Helens I rolled my eyes so hard they nearly fell out of my head. Let's bring up Nebraska Man next, for the Tired Old Creationist Nonsense Bingo card. Bit dodgy on the sound balance, this one, BTW. My right ear at least enjoyed Prof Stavrakapolou and Dr Baker. But nevertheless, a solid and strong rebuttal of the usual utter creationist drivel.

[@JeffreydeKogel]

Gotta love the "fine tuned universe" argument, while 99.99% of the universe would kill us almost instantly.

[@incomingincoming1133]

...furthermore, only where local conditions accommodate life will life emerge in the first place to ponder questions such as the origin of life. Therefore every intelligent species will see a universe apparently built for them.

[@Sirkykesoftherealm]

It’s funny, I remember being in wonder at the genealogy of the Bible. Now I realize it’s just as fanciful as the line of Durin from Middle Earth. I think I’ll stick to Tolkien for my fantasy instead of the bible thank you. Always enjoy these educational videos 👍🏻

[@banzaibobA7V]

I'm finally reading The Silmarillion. I'd say Tolkien's creation myth is way more interesting.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

Personally, I'm a Treki! (

[@86BullnoseOG]

If you ask me, Tolkien made the only decent version of Christianity.

[@tekbarrier]

@@Bob-of-Zoid Yahweh is the poor man's Q

[@drivinsouth651]

@@Bob-of-Zoid Data is my favorite skeptic in Treki Universe, lol!

[@eyeofthetigger7305]

Mom was a church gal, and her 13'th birthday gift was a bible. Dad was not. I think he only went to get married and once or twice since. When dad was 93 and not enjoying life any more he decided to "take the black pill". It was most peaceful. He declined the minister and asked that "nobody say a prayer for me". He was looking forward to the next great adventure, had no regrets and I believe he lived life the right way. I miss him.

[@BoneySkylord]

Having gone through the process of waking up from religion I always find it puzzling to realise that other people haven’t done so and still genuinely believe it is an accurate way of understanding the nature of the universe. Thank you for your brilliant videos. Please keep them coming.

[@l8ton439]

I liken it to a hard drive, or ssd,.. once its full up with junk, no new information will get in. But, unlike computers, they cannot reset. The junk is there until they're dead.

[@Swolsuke]

Cognitive dissonance, the human mind strives for consistency not truth. Ideas introduced earlier, or ideas for which you have invested a lot of effort into have priority over contradicting ideas regardless of the truth if either idea.

[@pointbreak8646]

@@Swolsuke the sunk cost fallacy comes to mind. It must be a harsh realisation to discover as an adult that what you have believed, indoctrinated as a child was all absolute nonsense. I feel it's a comfort thing for believers rather than there is physical demonstrable evidence for a gods existence. People need to be honest to themselves and admit that some personal experience is not evidence that a God has intervened in their lives, its subjective through and through

[@hopelessnerd6677]

It's all what you surround yourself with. If you hang out with like thinkers, and go to church with like thinkers, and never seek out accurate information (and why would you if you're happy with things the way they are), then it's easy to just live in that universe. Science is foreign and too complicated, and only eggheads know anything about it. The fact that you use electricity, drive a car, and use a pocket computer to talk to other people anywhere on Earth just doesn't register.

[@freedfromreligions611]

@@pointbreak8646 You are right, it was hard and painful accepting that I had been lied to all my life. However, I knew and I recognize that the doctrines and teachings are lies, I could not continue living by faith. I feel warmer and I would encourage people to try living life without religion

[@scribblescrabble3185]

the poster of "the evolution of religions and myths" is a nice touch

[@sciencenerd7639]

Wow, this is my favorite installment of the series so far. I really appreciate the info from Dr. Baker. Thanks!

[@slevinchannel7589]

Teaching with Fun, like the Channel Oversimplified does, has really gotten strong, so lets support all this. Excuse the overly-long list but i highly recommend you and all your friends and family Sci Man Dan, Planarwalk, Professor Dave, Forrest Valkai, Tier Zoo, Creaky Blinder and Emma Thorne! These and so many more entertain with Science of History or Flat-Earth-Debunks. Coverage that they share with Ahtiest-KZbinrs, btw...

[@krankarvolund7771]

I'm always amazed when the creationnists point all the details that prove that you can't put millions of years in the Genesis, because I'm thinking "Yeah, sure, I knew that, I proposed it to help. You know, trying to accomodate the Genesis and reality, but if you want to stay on full mythology it's cool too" ^^"

[@Marniwheeler]

Yeah, exactly. It happens on many biblical stories, in my experience. I'm all about the hard line now because of it. The flood is BS (for example), the proof of it is non-existent.

[@kenbee1957]

Lol This THIS!!!!!!!!! "Reality says the planet and the universe are very old. But if you look here and also read this bit of the Bible there....it's very obvious that the Bible says the World is only 6000 years old!" And I'm always like, "You understand that this is not helping your cause, right?"

[@kamion53]

@@kenbee1957 of course the Earth is very old, for someone with limited imagination 6000 years is very, very old. It is like a child of 6 hearing his grandfather is 60 and thinks that is really ancient and old. It takes some time to imagine the world beyond the human measures. A distance of a lightyear is far beyond the image of the familiar 6 feet of human height. And apologists are pretty poor in imagining big nummers.

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236]

@@kenbee1957 except reality says the earth and the universe are not billions of years old, but evolutionists need that amount of time to try to make their religion seem reasonable, when in actuality things get worse over time, not better.

[@Isaelcho]

It doesn't surprise me to see someone with a Brassens pfp in this comment section lol. But still, really cool

[@jimmythebold589]

How could JRR Tolkien's stories, with their detailed timelines, NOT be a fact?????????

[@bdf2718]

"Thou shalt not kill" is a translation error. The Judaic original says "Thou shalt not *murder."* Killing the enemy in a war is not murder. Judicial executions, for "crimes" like picking up sticks, are not murder. Killing gentiles, because your god tells you they are sub-human, is not murder. Killing people because your god tells you to is not murder. The Bible contradicts itself here because of a translation error. So much for the inerrant word of God.

[@Leith_Crowther]

It might be more accurate to say God meant “thou shalt not wrongfully kill,” based on a lot of ideas about right and wrong that are… well, wrong.

[@jimmythebold589]

@@raysalmon6566 jesus didn't teach anything , because he didn't exist. translation of a translation of a verbal story of a verbal story is only going to be a translation error. there is no genuine 'information' in the bible. in fact, it's just trash, and is irrelevant to any rational person. alas it's enshrined in our culture and we are witnessing its poisonous effects daily.

[@patrickecker377]

@@raysalmon6566 There is an excellent book called "Misquoting Jesus" that you should read. Basically, for the 1400 or so years before the invention of the printing press Bibles had to be copied by hand. The new testament wasn't even written til at least 100 years after Jesus's death, or at least the Gospels weren't written til then and the rest assembled by Constantine after the Council of Nicea in 315AD. Because the Bible was hand copied, some scholars believe there are more errors just from copying than from fact. One translational mistake is the saying, "It's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get to heaven." The word "camel" had many different meanings and probably doesn't mean what we think it means at all. The story of the adultress where Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" wasn't even added to the Bible til after the year 1200. It was written in the margin by a monk but there is nothing about it in any prior Bibles. In fact, of the 1500 or so Bibles that survive from the time before the printing press, not even two are identical and many are vastly different to reflect the political leanings of the Bishops in the area and the geographical region with changes made to better suit the people in the area. We still see this today in Africa where Catholocism as practiced by the natives has been grossly changed to incorporate local legend and myth. Like it or not but the Bible is an extremely flawed document. It wasn't until the King James version, where scholars made a determined effort to develop a consistent, standardized Bible that we came to the Bible we seem to have today. It is only the invention of the printing press that made standardization by comparison possible. The paucity of Bibles, their value and the odd nature of Latin made sure they were rare books not widely disseminated. In Boston, in the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum there are a few Bibles from the time before the printing press. They are handwritten, in Latin, written in one long sentence with no spaces between the words, no punctuation and no capitalizations. It took men like Alquin of York to develop the spaces between the words and the punctuation and then add verse numbers. This wasn't till around 800AD under Charlegmagne. One can imagine the multiplicity of errors copied over and over again.

[@inyobill]

You do have a point, remembering the god-ordered genocide so they could take-over their territory.

[@reubenmanzo2054]

The last examples you gave is a bit of a grey area. Doing something because some invisible voice told you to could be diagnosed as schizophrenia. But throw religion into the mix and suddenly it makes perfect sense.

[@andystokes8702]

I've lost count of the number of creationists I have heard use the argument, 'How can you trust evolution, how can you believe things that supposedly happened millions of years ago, you weren't there.' Do they not realise that this very argument applies to their faith in creation. They weren't there ..... but they believe it anyway.

[@adamboyen4727]

A far better counter is to inform them that the processes proposed are still occurring today and that it's like the primary school math problem of: 2,4,6; what would be the 10th number in the sequence? Then just ask them how they know since they haven't seen the whole sequence

[@YokaiX]

Ah, but you see, their mythology is "special and divine truth that proves itself (through circular reasoning)". They don't have to be there for it to be "true". "The Bible told me so, so it must be true, cuz the Bible is the Word of God, and so God said so... so it's true".

[@andystokes8702]

@@YokaiX It goes something like this - A - I believe that God created the universe and everything in it in 7 days B - I know this to be true because the Bible says so in Genesis C - I know the Bible is true because all scripture is inspired by God D - I know that scripture is inspired by God because it says so in the Bible E - Rinse and repeat, return to A.

[@Dan_C604]

“Bible writers couldn’t be more clear” says this apologist. jajajajajaja that is hilarious when you think the amount of confusion, misinformation and incorrect or ignorant information that it contains.

[@John-uk8eo]

Except for the fact that there is no confusion on our end. I can't speak for skeptics, but attempt to pass off any confusion on your end to Christians is bad form.

[@mikehunntt5338]

Not to mention over 18,000 different religions all say the other 17,999 are wrong but all religions buybulls are plagiarized from each other

[@ezbody]

@@John-uk8eo You do know, that most of us have been Christian most of our lives, right? The only time Christians can claim that there is no confusion is when they don't ask each other what it is they believe, which is exactly what most modern Christian resort to. Everyone just lives in their own bubble and pretends that others believe the same things.

[@John-uk8eo]

@@ezbody Then you should understand that no Christian disagrees on the essentials of the Christian faith. The core doctrines that are not up for debate among Christians.

[@ezbody]

@@John-uk8eo Yes, they are, if not in belief, then in behavior, that contradicts the belief. It's a huge huge mess. You just haven't ventured outside your bubble, yet.

[@hatuletoh]

And thus Moses said, "get your hands off me, you damn filthy ape!"

[@pmtoner9852]

I thought Moses said "Soylent green is PEOPLE!"

[@WokeandProud]

And the ape replied, but you are an ape.

[@YokaiX]

"Get thine hands off from upon me, thou damned filthy primate!"

[@andresvillarreal9271]

A correction is needed at 9:15. An Earth's rotation takes about 23 hours and 56 minutes, but a day takes almost exactly 24 hours. The Earth's rotation is the spinning of the Earth until it is in the same orientation with respect to the stars, a day is the spinning until it is in the same orientation with respect to the Sun, approximately. To be more exact, a day is about 24 hours minus one-thousandth of a second. So, if we are going to be exact, neither the solar day nor the celestial day are synchronized with our definition of a second.

[@undecidedmiddleground5633]

I think the day based on the rotation in relation to the stars is called the sidereal day.

[@DumbleDad]

@@undecidedmiddleground5633 spot on.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

It's just so ironic how religion always steals terms from critics. Example: Calling science myth.

[@kermitthorson9719]

"no, you are" has been their stance for years now

[@ericvulgate]

They spend a lot of time calling science 'religion' with the implication that that is bad, which it would be if it were true.

[@Catholictomherbert]

Well there are “fantasy’s” in science. Be cautious with natural science discourse in ordinary language. Like next time someone uses evolve in casual discourse must not understand the nature of progression and development. We are devolving into primitives if can’t keep up with modern journalism and self check out sections.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

@@Catholictomherbert what fantasies in science? Which still wouldnt make science a myth.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

@@ericvulgate Yeah also admitting Faith is bad by saying it takes Faith to believe in creation or evolution.

[@scottLEEthatsME]

Keep up the great work. Thank you for being a voice of reason in a world so deeply against reason

[@Cat_Woods]

Sometimes I just need this. I feel this is less for the creationists than for those of us who feel called to stand against domination by one interpretation of one religion as it tears through the first amendment of the US constitution. It's invigorating to witness. Almost as if Aron is our champion in the gladiator arena. I'm not sure most creationists would be able to even take in all the words of his rapid-fire delivery, but for me it's like a shot in the arm. That's the ticket! Thanks, Aron.

[@phoenixkingtheo]

“The authors of genesis couldn’t have been more clear” then why do people like him need to come in an explain it?

[@avoidofnothing]

44:07 but what about God's knowledge of the future? If God knew he would create Adam and Eve and that both of them would be evil, yet did *nothing to stop it,* God would still indirectly be creating evil, and it would still be *his fault.*

[@Akira625]

Multiple times in the Bible we see God screw up, and then blame his creations for it.

[@TheZodiacRipper]

God created everything knowing very well that in the future it would be impossible for millions of people to take his words seriously because he gave us critical thinking. God also created sin, evil and the devil ,then threw him down to earth giving him the dominion over it so that even more people would turn away from god.

[@gregthomson8251]

Wow Aron……14 mins in, just amazing. Awesome

[@DJCailler]

Thanks

[@ianlewis6258]

I am Buddhist. But I still support your work, AronRa! Keep it up you're a life saver!

[@ThoughtyTheWrangler]

Francesca was way more generous to that guy’s points than he deserves. The archeological record very pointedly *doesn’t* show a hard transition from urbane Canaanite dwellings from or to “nomadic Israelite” dwellings. For the most part, most of the Canaanite cities that the Old Testament claims were most horrendously destroyed by a conquering Israelite army show none of the telltale signs of conquest and destruction. The best they could do are showing that Jericho’s walls once fell… at a completely different time than ANY of the purported dates given for when it would have happened in the Bible.

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

However an atheist told me about the fact we do start to find absence of pig bones in piles. And then I heard David Falk say so.

[@alext7074]

Man, this was burn after burn after burn. Loved every bit of it.

[@evol4.6]

I really hope there are a lot of biblical literals who come to their senses after viewing Aron’s videos. He does such a great job.

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236]

“He really does a great job”. If you say so.🙄

[@Tornadopelt]

@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236 Ad hominem in your account name - you're attacking Charles Darwin instead of his argument. Fallacy Count: 1.

[@travisbicklepopsicle]

@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236 your username attacks Charles Darwin, which is really weird. Too bad you don't understand why :-( Hint: evolutionary theory is not synonymous with Darwinism. You are so clueless when it comes to science, you have absolutely no idea how you could even possibly begin to attack evolutionary theory, so you attack a dude who lived over a century and a half ago. That's really, really weak, dude :-( Another tip for you: scientific theories are not based on one person, and there are no Messianic figures in science. Nobody worships Charles Darwin, and if he had never even existed, evolution would still be the way life on earth works. It really sucks that you've been stuck with a worthless, ridiculous username for so long :-(

[@MasterMaverick]

Did you say “thousands of denominations sharding off of each other” or “sharting off of each other”? Either way, you’re right.

[@alisaurus4224]

I heard “sharting” as well

[@johngavin1175]

Yeap. I thirdly heard shart.

[@youdeservethis]

Very well spoken. the only thing I would suggest is to back your facts up by citing chapter and verse. This makes it easy for me to refute my family :D

[@Outspoken.Humanist]

Isn't it interesting that creationists urge people to question scientific ideas and to not believe scientific theories, whilst telling us that the Bible is true, because it's true and you must simply believe. This is the hight of dishonesty.

[@righty-o3585]

The way Mr. Dawkins was just listening, not even trying to interrupt, shows that he is a much more patient person than I cod ever be.

[@TheGuardingDark_]

16:42 In Warhammer 40k’s lore. Exhaustively huge portions of the Imperium of mans 10,000 year history are catalogued. It is an exceptionally detailed body of work in which thousands of different people are named or mentioned. A things historicity is not evident just because it has more effort put into it then other false things.

[@susansaunders249]

I love you. That's all I have to say atm. Thanks for all the calm reason and clarity of thought

[@lightningfirst689]

"The Bible is super clear, guys. Except for the parts that I say are obviously poetic, it's all meant to be literal history."

[@angustin6590]

Why memorize 200 pokemons when I could have used that energy to learn this definition of "ape"?

[@TronBonneVonne]

Dear God: Please exist, so you can undo this mess and go back to being a man-made idea.

[@daviniarobbins9298]

When I was a SDA Christian I tried on several occasions to chronicle the kings of Israel/Judah and always came a cropper. I always ended up with a 10 year gap in the chronology that I couldn't explain and I read 1st and 2nd Samuel and 1st and 2nd Kings very carefully.

[@demomanchaos]

"Steve Austin collected The Rock" sounds like something from the good old days of WWF.

[@amenerstugard1894]

Aron Ra is one of the greatest PHENOMENA ever "happened to" this world with STILL so stupidly countless ridiculous, primitive religious delusions sadly alive today. THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH, ARON! 🙂

[@mikehunntt5338]

Hell say 10!

[@WokeandProud]

@@raysalmon6566 That's because you're projecting your stupidity onto him.

[@josevieira1736]

@@raysalmon6566 how so?

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

​@@raysalmon6566 A propaganda evangelist is literally just an evangelist, but whatever. If you feel you must project the inadequacies of your worldview onto others, then I insist, go for it!

[@darthdonkulous1810]

@@raysalmon6566 you would. You presumably believe the Bible to be historically and scientifically reliable? Who is the real propagandist, here?

[@Sky-CladObserver]

I like how the narrator asks "Where in the unbroken narrative would we stop to say it's just poetic?" when just moments before he picked some particularly absurd biblical quotes and said "These are clearly poetic". Seriously, did he not listen to himself talk?

[@n0etic_f0x]

Hey the study by Dalrymple! That is the one my biology professor used a decade ago so it is my go-to. Not because it is so new but because now I am dealing with evidence older than the person I am talking to so they know they are being lied to rather than just talking to someone who is ignorant.

[@Dexx1s]

We need more Aron twirling his hair and saying 'like'

[@SasBald]

Thanks!

[@DrBananaPig]

The simplest explanation for literal creationism: They don't understand how literature or human creativity in general work. The fact that they cannot fathom a creative individual crafting a detailed, rich, cohesive textual world says a lot about their own lack of imagination.

[@donnievance1942]

Good observation.

[@l8ton439]

All of us know, that all the people that should be watching videos like this, are not here,.. they're on those other videos, where the comment section is disabled. Never trust a video where the comments are disabled,.. However, it fills me with warm feelings, as it means that their video had attracted a mammoth amount of atheists ready and willing to debunk junk.

[@frogstar1fighter]

this is seriously the first time I've heard this nordic gods thing... and I've studied three languages (yet only romance) but never even got the idea that they are named after germanic gods... just blew my minde

[@seannolan9857]

I actually learned that in third grade thanks to Carmen Sandiego.

[@mikeSGman]

@aronra - Can you please provide a link to the graphic 2:15 seconds in? That is awesome. I’ve been looking for something like that for a while.

[@retroboomer3197]

If religion has taught me anything it's that human beings have a tremendous capacity to believe their own BS.

[@RobertStambaugh-l5r]

One would have to be very gullible to believe in evolution . A filthy ape cannot ' magically ' turn into a human .

[@WokeandProud]

​@@RobertStambaugh-l5rObviously humans are apes afterall.

[@gregcampwriter]

It was the literalist interpretation of Genesis that I was told I had to believe that made me lose belief.

[@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout]

Ohhh I just flashed on that scene from the Simpsons..."Your Honor, we have hearsay and conjecture, those are KINDS of evidence..."

[@severewindnoise]

The ads I'm seeing in this are quite interesting. One promoting Judaism, one promoting Mormons, and one promoting an Islamic temple in Canada.

[@nickguy8037]

I love the fact they waste their advertising dollars on us.

[@donkink3114]

16:48 how can the Lord of the rings not be an historical account? The genealogies in the appendices of that series are even more descriptive than the bible's.

[@smadaf]

43:48 I like the fact that he says "supposably". :D

[@unsulliedsickness8979]

I think that the fact that apologists even exist speaks volumes. If all they say is true then God would have created us with that knowledge and apologists wouldn't be needed. Missionaries have never gone to some remote part of the world and the natives said " oh yeah. We know all about God. See, we have the same Bible as you" The fact their message has to be spread by other people shows that it isn't a universal truth that we're all born with.

[@Yujifanik]

I came to that conclusion myself, too.

[@filthycasual6118]

Speaking about Biblical interpretations, my dad has one that I don't think I've ever heard anywhere else. He claims that Adam was created with both biological sexes, and that the creation of Eve wasn't done with a rib, but with Adam's girl parts. It's been two-thousand years, give or take, since the inception of Christianity, and we're _still_ getting brand new, whackball interpretations out of it. EDIT: I'm consistently disappointed in believers' lack of creativity. That line of thought about death being bad, and therefore not the result of God's influence, is incredibly dull and egocentric. There are people out there who can appreciate death, on a practical, artistic, or even spiritual level. Who's to say God isn't one of those people? Apologists with an ax to grind, I guess. EDIT 2: Except not, because I completely forgot about Leviticus, and all the blood sacrifices for atonement God wanted. I guess he liked blood sacrifice so much that he got desensitized to it, and that's why he had to concoct a scheme to make _himself_ (not not really) a blood sacrifice, _to_ himself, just so he could... Well, the apologists tell you it's for atonement, but I think it's how God gets his rocks off.

[@page8301]

"The bible is like a prisoner. Torture it long enough and it will say anything you want". -guy I sadly forgot the name of

[@l8ton439]

Actually, your dads interpretation, or idea seems in close keeping with biology, given that male and female genitalia are homologous. A lot of people dont want to know that. The rib story is ridiculous nonsense.

[@davebeach2343]

Does your dad give any citations or evidence for his claim?

[@John-uk8eo]

Except that God didn't sacrifice Himself to Himself. Jesus the Son sacrificed Himself on our behalf to reconcile sinful man back to God the Father. The idea you have in mind is from Oneness Pentecostals. A doctrine not found in the bible.

[@Dan_C604]

@@John-uk8eo right, thank you john for trying to explain shit from the bible with even more christian shit. Now it makes way more shitty sense.

[@williamjohn2910]

That intro music gets me every time! Love it!

[@rogerwilson53]

When i became a atheist, Aron really showed me the bogus of religion.

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

Because he's talking bogus man.

[@adamboyen4727]

@@isaacleillhikar4566 got any evidence?

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

@@adamboyen4727 Oh. Yeah. About loads and loads of his points. In fact one of the points he even conceded.

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

Theres some here, about Behemoth being an elephant, the Satan not being evil or portrayed as evil in the Bible, the Bibles message not being cohérent and having consistency, loads of other things along the way. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6CnqHiVd6h6gc0

[@adamboyen4727]

@@isaacleillhikar4566 I'm sorry but by my understanding most of the descriptions of the behemoth cannot describe a sauropod since they were taller than most trees and did not have a tail that "moveth like a cedar" where "moveth" is obviously an old english word for moves, better describing an elephant, an animal that fits all descriptions and that we know conclusively lives around the same region where the bible was first written where there is also a particular cedar tree that "moveth" or moves similarly to an elephants tail

[@kingspud1983]

I had to pause the video to look up the video with Richard Dawkins. What a great discussion. I wish something like that were possible today. A discussion where people listen to each other and present different views without getting to worked up and allow each other to speak.

[@ominous-omnipresent-they]

That is possible today, though.

[@kingspud1983]

@@ominous-omnipresent-they You're right. I wasn't meaning literally. I just meant that these discussions seem to be much fewer and tend to go well with less frequency. Maybe I'm projecting. I try to have good and productive conversations.

[@sicktodeath0_0]

@~29min: It's never very hard to find the apologist in a group. Just look for the misogynist who is putting words in other people's mouths.

[@B41988]

Referring to Moses; "the second edition..." ! Damnit... I can't stop laughing. Pause... and then pick it up an hour later... "spiders immobilizing raspberries." A really great contrast of historical truth and humor. Appreciative of your efforts--

[@scarlett8960]

If someone asked me how I am pretty darn sure that Christianity is not the One True Faith, I would say that the number of denominations all professing to *know* the mind of god and all conflicting in their doctrines. Christians can't agree on: the nature of god (trinity or not; wants a relationship with us or needs us to go through an intercessor, is infallible and all-knowing or who mucked his way through the Old Testament); the way to salvation (through accepting Jesus alone, good works or both); what god thinks about a myriad of culture war issues; what the End Times looks like. Christians don't even agree on what constitutes a proper baptism! sprinkle or full immersion? What magic words *must* be uttered? etc. Christianity teaches its followers to believe what they "feel on their heart" or what pops into their mind when they're reading a cherry-picked Bible verse. It's really not a way to valid knowledge. The Christian god supposedly loves us and wants our belief, but he can't be arsed to send a clear message to his believers.

[@cotydinsmore4868]

Been watching Aronra for years and years, here we have the same old arguments from theologists and yet Aron provides rebuttal that makes me see things in different ways. Like when he said man's word vs gods word is actually backwards just like all apologetic arguments. If God is real, and its between what the Bible tells us and what the rocks in the ground tells us, then the trust should still be placed the earth science. Because presumably God physically placed the rock in the ground. Unless God physically penned the words on the page, then the Bible does certainly have a human influence and/or bias. Meeting an idea on its own terms and dismantling it in a way that captures the support of the opposition is powerful stuff. Thanks for this series, all parts. I look forward to re-watching the entire playthrough once they all air. And of course, who didn't love the greatest quote so far in the series... "Reality is all around"

[@anghusmorgenholz1060]

I love the interview with the good doctor. Her knowledge of the bible is stunning.

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

Give me a break. Her teaching is conjecture !

[@agimasoschandir]

@@isaacleillhikar4566 "Stavrakopoulou supports the academic consensus that important figures in the Hebrew bible were not historical figures as represented in that text." Sounds good to me

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

@@agimasoschandir King David ? "No"_ His and Solomons toumbs are visitable in the time they wrote Nehemiah and also Acts, and theres the Tel Dan Stele showing "house of the sons of David". She also believes Solomon his son existed i recall. Jesus "probably". She just looks like she runs with any time any historian or conspiratacy theorist ever doubted anything. Like that time she thought Genesis was writen in Babylone just after Ezekiel, you cant take that kind of thing seriously. Ester was writen in Iran, and it has persian lone words. And Exodus and so forth has egyptian lone words.

[@darthdonkulous1810]

@@isaacleillhikar4566 a person who believes anything that people like Ken Ham and that other fraud the inmate say criticising someone for using academia as a source is just fantastic. What deugsbdo you take, because I'm always down for a good time.

[@isaacleillhikar4566]

@@darthdonkulous1810 Im against psychiatry because as I denonce its the same thing as taking deugsbro or whatever you said

[@cola98765]

Good stuff as always, but it again seems that nobody listened to this on headphones before exporting... the whole "is biblie relevant today" clip and Jonathan Baker was only in my right ear.

[@darrenkemp6323]

I love how these Young Earth Creationists continually contradict themselves. For example when they show footage of the moon walks, while if Genesis was literally true no human could walk on the "Lesser Light".

[@Altorin]

"How can this not be a historical account?!" They ask. I mean... It is. Its just not a HISTORICAL ACCOUNT OF THE ACTUAL WORLD WE LIVE IN RIGHT NOW The Silmarilion is a fucking historical account too.

[@istvansipos9940]

07:30 you heard it here first: The authors were inspired by a never seen entity, of which we have 0 testable claims. Not even a reasonable definition. And that entity used an unknown mechanism to inspire people. Definitely NOT magic, though. So legit :- )

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236]

Evolutionists are inspired by a never seen before process which has zero evidence to back up, is based on magic, and they force this to be taught in schools.🙄

[@istvansipos9940]

@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol236 evolution is a never seen process if you refuse to read about it. And the irony: you use your evolved brain to refuse to read about it. you used your highly evolved hands to type your comment, and your evolved eyes to see the text. all these (and many more) results of evolution are well understood, and there are hundreds of papers written about them. no papers about magic. And, if we reject evolution, nobody can even suggest a reasonable MECHANISM which could give us our eyes, throwing skills, hairless skin, etc. Or which could equip whales with LUNGS. A junior engineer would be fired for that "design" feel free to give any alternative explanation a try, though. (creation by a never seen entity with his never seen magic is a silly NON-explanation, raising way more questions, while giving 0 answers)

[@D3nchanter]

23:01 really would love to know how the corrections in those ages for noah, adam, and methuselah came about... and where i could look it up as a primary source. anyone know?

[@WilbertLek]

A natural history museum.

[@earthcoloredeyes5043]

I always thought how funny it was that this is the one and only god to exist, yet this god gets jealous of other gods that supposedly do not exist. The Christian god fits the Saklas story more than anything.

[@HD141937]

Does anyone know the source of the Martin Luther quote (31:50) about faith trampling reason? I did a quick google search, but only found some dubious results.

[@mistyhaney5565]

Can anyone tell me why the verses in Genesis in which Adam and Eve are both created at the same time are ignored by everyone?

[@baconghoti]

Wait until you really think about the rainbow covenant at the end of Noah's story. For it to be real, refraction needed not to exist beforehand.

[@nicovandenberg_]

I missed a few minutes around the 47 minute mark, because the "eating seeds" phrase made me sing System of a Down.

[@inyobill]

Arguing about how long a "day" in Genesis is, seems like arguing about whether a super-hero could defeat another.

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

salutes for the steady relentless effort of Ra keeping pushing quality material. the little trivia's i enjoy to glimpse in some casual hiking around the sprawling fragments of history when finding dumbed down but verefied sources of little name drops like hamarabi's stela of law is delicious.... and while hearing of fundamentalist despotism or wilful self destructive dishonesty and ignorance grinds my gears... exposing it in flood lights is always refreshing.

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

also ...this guy at 28:40 ish... ''wich academia..list some individual names.. and hints that it cross examing things with other branches is 'sensationalism'' ....smells like authority worship and an inability to actually understand the peer preeview process outside of ''ah!..guy got recognition so his material is more often referenced'' :/

[@l8ton439]

Its embarrassing hearing a young man speaking with such conviction. Hopefully, he will grow up and realise and be embarrassed, himself. And whom, exactly, is he educating,.. people older than himself, or younger than himself? Older religious idiots wavering in their belief, and making their own interpretations, won't listen to a younger man schooling them,.. why would he know over them? LIKE, YA KNOW! Aron, you are, 'THE BOSS'!

[@williamjohn2910]

This episode is wicked Aron and co! Awesome guys! Funny and very interesting! And only just over half way through!

[@krankarvolund7771]

"They're perfectly synchronised" Yet the "light that rulethe night" appears during the day often, I think it's 10 days per month, and sometimes quite late in the day. How's that synchronised? XD Oh and also, how does the 24 hours day works in the North Pole exactly? :p

[@70d3x]

Thankyou for making these videos. They refill my sanity-battery quite well and ontop of that are quite informative, too!

[@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596]

Woo Hoo 🙋🏼‍♀️ a new Aron Ra video.

[@gerryv5080]

was that Bilby as the teacher in the classroom scene they showed? Talk about irony!

[@brunozeigerts6379]

Joshua: God, stop the sun in the sky so that we may slaughter our enemies... God: Uh... Joshua... it doesn't work that way. I have to stop the Earth from rotating ... causing global catastrophe... Joshua: Global? God: Never mind... (funny how Joshua asked for the Sun to stop... and the omniscient god didn't correct him)

[@psychicatheist5022]

Something seems out of order here: Day 1: Day and Night Day 4: Sun, Moon & Stars

[@justsomefighter466]

Mr ra for me will go down as someone with the impact of hitchens or Dawkins will. A deep life changing impact. A drive and passion to understand and spread truth. An activist who has already and will continue to have a greatly positive impact on the of people who suffered becuase of religion or the mislead who seak truth or maybe someone just looking for something to challange there worldview and improve there understanding. Mr ra has welcomed me into the world of skepticism, logical consistency and discovery. And i couldnt thank him enough.

[@Lizarman11]

I get the debate was an old recording, but the mono being only on the right channel made me go nuts while listening on headphones XD

[@darththeo]

They list when people were born! Yeah, so does Star Wars and Lord of the Rings ... doesn't make them real.

[@naruarthur]

a list of names and dates, something impossible for any person with some imagination to make out of thin air

[@shanem1129]

That was excellent 🤘I'm going to hit replay throughout the month on this one. Great work Aron

[@slevinchannel7589]

MAGA and ALSO Christian-Nationalists are literally on a Recruitment-Spree. Cody Johnston covered this.

[@JohnMRockwell]

The bible because a book written by men who couldn't figure out where the sun went at night must have all the answers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Sidistic_Atheist]

17:24 Damn !! you had to mention *Don Quixote* I had to pause the video till the wife stopped singing.. aaarrrggghhh!!!

[@smadaf]

45:15 "[ * * * ] God created Adam and Eve naked. Then, once they had knowledge of good and evil, then, by that knowledge, they realized it was wrong to be naked-so either God made them wrong, by making them naked, or, if it was not wrong that they were naked, then they didn't have real knowledge of right and wrong." Or God changed his mind about what is right and wrong (which the Bible says He never does-except when it says He does)-in which case He's a poor source to rely on for what constitutes right and wrong, if those things are constants.

[@nickguy8037]

Exactly! Welcome to the faith 😂😂😂

[@Sean-fo8kg]

In that clip you shared, watching that clown priest incessantly interrupt her while she graciously allowed him to ramble on and on was maddening.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

So much wrong with the 24 hour cycle thing being perfectly sycnhronous. 1. From nightfall to nightfall it is NOT 24 hours (or the 23.25 hours) otherwise we wouldn't have the longest day and shortest day twice a year. 2. It's not actually 24 hours. 3. A year isn't exactly 365 days either. 4. Even if we granted that those numbers were perfectly sycnhronous, strange that a second is 9192631770 cycles of the Cs atom (more precise explanation on wikipedia), why isn't it like 10 000 000 000? And while we're at it, why is the speed of light not 300 000 km/s? Why are the numbers perceively perfect only in the metric system and not other systems too? The metric system and hour systems etc. werent there when the bible was written...

[@krankarvolund7771]

Also, there's places on Earth, where the day can last several months, but I guess they weren't in the mind of God :p

[@Soapy-chan_old]

@@krankarvolund7771 Oh right, forgot that xD Yeah it seems God is a bit selective xD

[@KianaWolf]

@@krankarvolund7771 Hello from Alaska.

[@Obeijin]

23 hours , 56 minutes , and 4 seconds ...

[@carter2865]

I'm just thinking that it's almost like we intentionally created it that way. Or at least tried to.

[@incog30]

I could watch your breakdowns all day long. Well done sir. Well done.