Rebutting Genesis Apologetics - 4th of 7 Alleged Myths

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AronRa

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@samhudson3814
@samhudson3814 2 жыл бұрын
As an Audiologist the ear is an inefficient junk heap that can only be explained throughout a process of evolution. If it was designed the designer should be fired.
@ChJuHu93
@ChJuHu93 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have some visualization how a semi efficient ear would be build?
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until this ear guy finds about how wholly inefficient our reproductive system is. 😁 (Just teasing, doc)
@taiwanisacountry
@taiwanisacountry 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.floridamanphd it sure is inefficient. Sometimes it does not work, sometimes it does not work and sometimes it does not work, they are not even mutually exclusive and can all be found at the same time. You can have triple baby blocker. Impotens, with a steril man and woman, and they might think that it is because he can not get a boner that is stopping them for shooting out babies.
@Fanny-Fanny
@Fanny-Fanny 2 жыл бұрын
You study Audi cars? But I suspect they were designed. Agree though - badly slapped together junk, right?
@Caffin8tor
@Caffin8tor 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fanny-Fanny Are you suggesting Audi designers are expected to be god-like?
@Anglomachian
@Anglomachian 2 жыл бұрын
Creationist: we’re too complex to have evolved from mud. Also creationist: we were magically proofed into existence out of dust.
@stylis666
@stylis666 2 жыл бұрын
When people think alchemy is more plausible than cause and effect. It makes me want to put a whole sock drawer in their stupid mouths and ask them if I have an easier time eating than they or if it's just up to "random" fucking "chance".
@MetallicAAlabamA
@MetallicAAlabamA 2 жыл бұрын
When they talk about their creation bs, I imagine when one says "Poofed" into existence from dust. Some deity accidentally poofs dust all over imaginary streets of gold that are in heaven. I always wondered how a god built streets of gold, but then remembered all those cities that Joshua destroyed with God laying claim to all their bling!
@kamion53
@kamion53 2 жыл бұрын
quote: Creationist: we’re too complex to have evolved from mud. considering the mudbrainess of most creationists I don't think it took much evolving from mud.
@MetallicAAlabamA
@MetallicAAlabamA 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamion53 Primus "My name is mud" is a perfect song for a creationists mud golem spell.
@ErrantMasa
@ErrantMasa 2 жыл бұрын
@@MetallicAAlabamA have ya checked out "Conspiranoia" yet?
@strange_0ne535
@strange_0ne535 2 жыл бұрын
I was at a zoo with a Creationist once and we were marveling at a grizzly bear. At one point in the conversation he said "but we humans still has dominion over all life. That was God's promise to Adam." I replied "why don't you jump in there and show that bear who truly has dominion". He shut right up
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
Ain't no dominion without our weapons and tools lol
@strange_0ne535
@strange_0ne535 2 жыл бұрын
@@YokaiX all the weapons and tools Adam had lmao
@jonathonrobinson7236
@jonathonrobinson7236 2 жыл бұрын
I find it striking that proof exists about Jesus from unbiased sources outside of the Bible. Some of these writers have provided direct evidence of Christians, while others have provided indirect evidence of the existence of Jesus and of His crucifixion. The writings of these writers offer a peek into the current events taking place from the late first century to the late second century. I find difficulty in downplaying or explaining away these writer's writings on the account of the prestige and social position they held, and the disdain illustrated in some of their writing. I only provided writing for four writers and the remaining five writers are included in my table chart located on my channel. Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus, Phlegon, Thallus, Julius Africanus, Flavius Josephus Tacitus, The Greatest Roman historian and senator Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. He then describes the torture of Christians: Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired. Nero offered his gardens for the spectacle, and was exhibiting a show in the circus, while he mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer or stood aloft on a car. Hence, even for criminals who deserved extreme and exemplary punishment, there arose a feeling of compassion; for it was not, as it seemed, for the public good, but to glut one man’s cruelty, that they were being destroyed. Mara Bar-Serapion, He was a Syrian philosopher, who wrote a letter to his son sometime after AD 73. There is only one manuscript of his letter in existence and preserved in the British Museum. "What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime. What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise King? It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera. Nor did the wise King die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given." Lucian, "The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day-the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account. … You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains their contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. All this they take quite on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common property." Pliny the Younger, Is another valuable historical source for information on Jesus and the early Church. Pliny was the governor of the Roman province of Bithynia, located in Asia Minor. In the year 112 AD, he wrote to the Emperor Trajan, asking how he should deal with those in his region who have been accused of being Christians. In the letter, Pliny describes the practices of these “criminals”: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food-but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
@jonathonrobinson7236
@jonathonrobinson7236 2 жыл бұрын
Have you wondered if there was any “proof” of the miracles of Jesus, outside the Bible (and outside of the writings of believers)? There are documents in which these writers provided us with evidence that Jesus worked miracles, but in writing, intended to downplay belief in such miracles. The first comes from the Babylonian Talmud 43a. Babylonian Talmud (late first or second century AD) Babylonian Sanhedrin43a-b “On the eve of the Passover they hanged Yeshu and the herald went before him for forty days saying [Yeshu] is going forth to be stoned in that he hate practiced sorcery and beguiled and led astray Israel. Here Jesus is accused of sorcery, in obvious parallel with the charge leveled in Matthew 12:22-23. The writer of the Talmud does not agree that Jesus worked bona fide miracles, but he reports that he did things which, to the enemy of Jesus could only be written off as sorcery. In the very early century AD Jewish literature, in "tHul 2:22-23" it is reported that healings were done in the name of Jesus. So we have indirect confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus and of his working of public miracles-only charging that the miracles were worked by Satan, not God. The point I would make from this material in the Jewish Talmud from the late first century is that it proves that Jesus was a person they felt they had to deal with and that it was sufficiently common knowledge that he worked signs and wonders that they felt they had to address this by claiming that Jesus did his miracles by the power of Satan (sorcery). Does this “prove” that Jesus worked miracles? Maybe or maybe not. What it proves is that many in his day were convinced that he worked miracles and that his enemies were aware of sufficient positive evidence of this that they felt they needed to explain it. In summary, the request for “proof” in written documents that Jesus did in fact work miracles from non-believers is, logically, a very high bar indeed. We can assume that most of those who witnessed his miracles either came to believe in him or found ways to explain away what they saw. In fact, I believe that it is striking that we have these two documented examples of non-Christians feeling the need to explain what seems to have been common knowledge that there was much reason to believe Jesus worked miracles. This does indeed corroborate the accounts of miracles and wonders performed by Jesus in the Bible.
@monkeyspank3005
@monkeyspank3005 Жыл бұрын
Well for one at a zoo if you do that you'll get kicked out. However if you knew what that meant you'll know man can have dominion over all by simply vibrating at a higher level and not showing fear to an animal. Ask Mike Tyson. This man said a world wide flood never happened, guess he doesn't know about the meteorite that reshaped the entire world that caused the dinosaurs to die. Pangea ring a bell? Anyone believing this emo kid from highschool advice should do the research themselves. Dressed in black, long hair, black background ok guy go cry in a corner or whatever goth people do lmfao.
@piawester9245
@piawester9245 2 жыл бұрын
Even rats have morals. I had 24 of them in my life and i have seen behavior that made my heart melt. One rats stored food for his passed away friend. He didnt understand that he was gone and expected him back. He wouldnt touch that food or let anyone touch it. They are so loving and they know who was nice to them and who wasnt
@KianaWolf
@KianaWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Last winter, a lost kitten found her way into my air vent. After fishing her out of the vent, she was starving and terrified. My cat (a male of about 12 years old, that cannot possibly be related to the kitten) immediately started cleaning her, guided her to his food bowl, stood back and patiently waited while the kitten ate. As well as always keeping her in line of sight when she got comfortable enough to get adventurous. He still always lets her eat before him, even though they have separate food bowls now. (She was a stray and I couldn't find her a new home. And my cat has become very attached. I didn't adopt her, he did.) Morality is emergent property of any social species. If only more humans stopped caring about being "uniquely moral" creatures and instead focused on behaving morally. (For example, if YECs would stop lying about data or deliberately misrepresenting scientific claims.)
@martinmckee5333
@martinmckee5333 2 жыл бұрын
And in a similar vein, I was on a school trip when I got a call that Violet - my rat - was looking ill, and seemed to be dying. She appeared to know it too, because despite being ill, she stayed alive for three more days until I returned home. As soon as I did, I held her, she cuddled in my lap, and died in my arms around ten minutes after I got home. I have so many stories of animals (mine and others) displaying morals and general emotional attachment, that I often feel those things are more highly developed in animals than in humans.
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer 2 жыл бұрын
Most all non-human animals are someone, a sentient being that has their own personality traits, wants and needs. I couldn't ignore this fact, and keep supporting the suffering of billions of land and sea non-human animals. We're all animals trying to survive on this mote of dust. Lets not cause unnecessary suffering in a world of suffering. Be vegan, yo!
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer 2 жыл бұрын
@Jay M What an intelligent reply. 👌🏾
@phily-hu5pr
@phily-hu5pr 2 жыл бұрын
I almost had a hundred of them they are very smart you can even teach them sign language
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Dan: If creationists were honest, they'd read the rest of the paper. There are two kinds of creationist: Dishonest ones, and soon-to-be former ones. As soon as they decide to be honest, they've done half the work towards leaving creationism.
@imagomonkei
@imagomonkei 2 жыл бұрын
The most embarrassing thing about their videos is they claim these are college-level material.
@andystokes8702
@andystokes8702 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly aimed at Christian colleges, nobody else at that age is going to buy into this BS.
@jrskp3677
@jrskp3677 2 жыл бұрын
After the preacher couldn't answer my questions in front of the adult congregation, which were the same ones that got me kicked out of Sunday school, I didn't have to go anymore. Like magic 🪄✨
@nathano2778
@nathano2778 2 жыл бұрын
Religious college level*
@mrsuspicious1743
@mrsuspicious1743 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it is for one of their diploma mil- sorry, ""universities"", ain't it?
@nathano2778
@nathano2778 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelord3561 taking the lords name in vain is a pretty big sin though. I don't think he's gonna like that. Plus, it's gonna make things pretty confusing in heaven if there are more than one the lord.
@themousethatroared3371
@themousethatroared3371 2 жыл бұрын
If my body was "intelligently designed", I'd like to speak to the manager of Customer Service Department 😒
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 6 ай бұрын
The generalised form is a pretty versatile biped. I hope in future that humans will bring it up to better specifications. Perhaps someone should consult Musk while we're in the "window" before he makes us all unnecessary by proliferating Optimi. (That was fun)..
@eliwoodthegoothoonter538
@eliwoodthegoothoonter538 2 жыл бұрын
Aron I just want to say thank you. Your steady debunking of the apologetics I grew up tangential to is a large part of what brought me away from creationism as a ministers son, and your systematic classification of life affirmed my acceptance of evolution by giving more than enough evidence that it’s the truth of our reality. Because of you, in 6 years I have come from having no understanding of biology to wanting to go back to school to be a biologist because I’m obsessed with it. You opened a door to a whole new interest I never knew I had. So sincerely, thank you.
@maxxam3590
@maxxam3590 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment makes me hopeful.
@mustafakalaycioglu9613
@mustafakalaycioglu9613 2 жыл бұрын
Biology is the absolute best :)
@DeconvertedMan
@DeconvertedMan 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@DeathPetalArt
@DeathPetalArt 2 жыл бұрын
Biology is fascinating, I hope you do decide to study it 😊
@Marniwheeler
@Marniwheeler 2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing.
@ilikecookies9796
@ilikecookies9796 Жыл бұрын
"We sing, therefore we are special." Birds: Aight, imma head out.
@rustkitty
@rustkitty 2 жыл бұрын
I know it's juvenile, but whenever someone says stuff like "Could they have all been wrong?!" I always think of the quote "Eat shit. billions of flies can't all be wrong!" and then I have to hold back a chuckle.
@OsirisLord
@OsirisLord Жыл бұрын
Can 1 billion Muslims be wrong?
@TheZodiacRipper
@TheZodiacRipper Жыл бұрын
Could billions of hindus be all wrong? Millions of nazis? Millions of communists? The answer is yes.
@snaek2594
@snaek2594 10 ай бұрын
@@OsirisLord also a good one.
@OsirisLord
@OsirisLord 10 ай бұрын
@@snaek2594 also don't forget Islam achieved in a life time what took Christians centuries to achieve. Islam must be the true religion it has more believers than any religion and it spread faster than any religion. Wait suddenly those don't become persuasive when it's a different religion? Weird.
@tiekogalaxylatte8839
@tiekogalaxylatte8839 Ай бұрын
Arguments from personal incredulity, it's all they have, that and lying.
@mtbee9641
@mtbee9641 2 жыл бұрын
I Love the closing comment! "I would rather be rational seeking to improve my understanding of how things really are!". This will go in my list of memorable quotes!
@donaldnumbskull9745
@donaldnumbskull9745 2 жыл бұрын
"Without a real Adam, a real garden blah blah... the New Testament has nothing to stand on." Yes! He actually understands the problem, he's just reached the wrong conclusion.
@simongiles9749
@simongiles9749 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I think the logic, if we can call it that, then runs... "But I find the idea that the New Testament isn't true to be scary, therefore it must be true, therefore Book of Genesis must be true".
@andystokes8702
@andystokes8702 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he understands the problem, but rather than address the problem he prefers to jump through hoops of fire in order to reaffirm his belief which he knows to be false.
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why I've come to believe we've been approaching this the wrong way by addressing Christianity. We should instead focus on debunking Judaism. Without Judaism, Christianity definitively has no basis at all (which of course already is the case, but ya know), and maybe even lsIam as well.
@donaldnumbskull9745
@donaldnumbskull9745 2 жыл бұрын
@@YokaiX I don't know enough about Judaism to be confident, but I understand that many Jews want Christians to stop willfully misinterpreting their holy book.
@AnonimusQualquer
@AnonimusQualquer 2 жыл бұрын
@@YokaiX actually no, Judaism and Christianity are very different in their core that despite they “sharing” the Old Testament each religion has a totally different interpretation from it. It is quite astonishing all the outside influences and forces that had to act on this once Jewish sect to turn it on its head and do a complete 180.
@kammy6340
@kammy6340 2 жыл бұрын
39:50 I cracked up so hard when Aron said "No no show the whole image". 🤣 Like why are creationists always so deceptive? They literally cropped the picture. What happened to God hates lies? These people are just so dishonest.
@PolyQuasi
@PolyQuasi 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. They have no problem lying for their "truth" and see no irony in it.
@williamjohn2910
@williamjohn2910 2 жыл бұрын
Tough times all round in the UK! Drought, extreme heat, inflation and my own personal issues, so thanks Aron and co for making me smile and forget problems for a while!
@jimmyh6601
@jimmyh6601 2 жыл бұрын
Same here William, all the best to you👍🇬🇧
@jamesmaybrick2001
@jamesmaybrick2001 2 жыл бұрын
Just depressing times all around.That sattelite image of the desert / scorched land spreading is just miserable.
@XraynPR
@XraynPR 2 жыл бұрын
but I thought climate change was a lie? Damn ...
@DissedRedEngie
@DissedRedEngie 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, Matt Walsh doesn't understand the concept of too hot. So, it's all good.
@jamesmaybrick2001
@jamesmaybrick2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@DissedRedEngie Pretty sure lots of things that man doesnt understand.
@Tommy_Stewart
@Tommy_Stewart 2 жыл бұрын
This video should go in a museum of skepticism. Absolutely fantastic systematic, dense critique. Well done. Again. 🤘🏻
@nathano2778
@nathano2778 2 жыл бұрын
New name for the channel?
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 2 жыл бұрын
" on the fourth day .he created the sun and the moon " How can you have four days without a sun?
@strange_0ne535
@strange_0ne535 2 жыл бұрын
Anything is possible if you ignore logic and say GODDIDIT and refuse to elaborate further
@Doombot2point0
@Doombot2point0 4 ай бұрын
their excuse is that "one day" is one rotation of the earth which is insanely eye-rolling as there would be zero frame of reference for when Earth supposedly completed one rotation. but I guess God can do whatever the story conveniently requires of him since he is supposedly...a god lol
@MarijnvdSterre
@MarijnvdSterre 2 жыл бұрын
I always love when you have Dr. Dan in the videos. He is very clear and easy to understand, while explaining things I have far less knowledge in then he has. (It is not always easy to explain things and not use jargon or "skip" steps, because they are so obvious for the one explaining.)
@necrosunderground
@necrosunderground 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to speak to the "intelligence" that designed my eyes as they are, requiring me to wear glasses since second grade because my near-sightedness has rendered me two times legally blind. So very fucking "intelligent". Thank you again, Aron, for exposing these fraudulent liars for who they are. I dunno how you manage to sit through these videos without losing your mind, but you are awesome!
@jrskp3677
@jrskp3677 2 жыл бұрын
When that happens please ask something for me? "What is with the proximity of the anus and vagina"?
@nathano2778
@nathano2778 2 жыл бұрын
Hi stranger. I was in a similar boat. I was told i couldnt get lasik or PRK due to a bit over -9 in both eyes with mild astigmatism. I got Implanted Contact Lenses (ICL) and it changed my life. I was in the army at the time so i got it for $0 which was a nice bonus but instantly corrected vision is a thing you might be able to actually get. You know, because science. god definitely sucks
@loonyman83
@loonyman83 2 жыл бұрын
lol yeah I too am "blessed" with eyes that don't work (enlarged retna making focus nearly impossible). That eye arguement didn't work on me even when I was a christian lol.
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl 2 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Letzco hey, how did they fix your fallen arches? My youngest has really, really flat feet, but no doctor has ever said anything about it being fixable. 🥺
@kevinshort3943
@kevinshort3943 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaryAnnNytowl Sports and outdoor shops do replacement "foot beds". you can get foot beds especially for flat feet. If you are rich, go to a shop that does ski stuff, and they can fit you up on their ski boot machine with the correct stuff. I use the Green, special feet ones. PS orthopaedic/ones from a shoe shop are stupidly expensive
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 2 жыл бұрын
Creationism seems to be a question of: “the world is too complex for ME to understand, so my simplistic fairytale must be true”. Whereas thinking people know that things can be true even if one doesn’t understand them.
@jameshall1300
@jameshall1300 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of times, to me at least, it seems to be an indication of a person's general sense of curiosity. Very few theists I've met seem to want to know how something works, and instead go "oh that's so mysterious, guess God did it". Almost every atheist I've met has had a well developed sense of curiosity of the world and the deeper mechanics of it.
@bobinthewest8559
@bobinthewest8559 2 жыл бұрын
Some people are simply too lazy to accept the burden/responsibility of understanding. It is “easier” to accept someone else’s “explanations”. This is what makes so many people easily manipulated and controlled... which has always been the true “purpose” of all religions.
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobinthewest8559 divine purpose as theyd believe
@philipinchina
@philipinchina 2 жыл бұрын
That zoom out at 40.08 shows how deliberately deceitful the "Lying for Jesus" crowd really is.
@phantomofkrankor3665
@phantomofkrankor3665 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Aron. This drives me crazy. DNA is a chemical not a code. We use a short hand notation (GCTA) to make it manageable. This makes it look like a code. And I love “ evolution never stops.” All species are intermediate species.
@tonyduncan9852
@tonyduncan9852 6 ай бұрын
Every individual is genetically intermediate also.
@arsenic1987
@arsenic1987 2 жыл бұрын
So summarizing most of this: Science is SO far ahead of the average persons understanding, that it would be a VERY good time to pick up a new textbook/science book, learn something, before attempting to argue it.. It's a curtesy that sceptics show towards non-sceptics, thus we'd expect the same curtesy back. And thank you Aron. Learned a lot from this video, even THINKING I knew most of it :P
@DragonDaishou
@DragonDaishou 2 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of something my late best friend said. He once had a plaque set up on his front door to keep religious indoctinators away, on it was " We belong to the Other People." Thank you Aron for that memory.
@reubenmanzo2054
@reubenmanzo2054 2 жыл бұрын
I've always found it curious how people could believe the Earth was formed only 6,000 years ago. However, that time does line up with one particular human invention: writing, in ancient Mesopotamia.
@s.lynchmd539
@s.lynchmd539 2 жыл бұрын
Exxxxxactly! & the “indoctrination by way of written (& spoken) stories begins..!.!.!.!”
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
They can believe anything when thoroughly indoctrinated and sufficiently delusional.
@ninam.6781
@ninam.6781 2 жыл бұрын
You're on to something, Reuben.
@ErrantMasa
@ErrantMasa 2 жыл бұрын
personal interpretation of the Genesis story: it was more of a prologue/tutorial to a simulation, the snake was the tutorial guide, and the choice of tree representing a choice of game mode (maybe creative/sandbox vs survival à la Minecraft).
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 жыл бұрын
So we could’ve had Minecraft instead of Skyrim?
@missk1697
@missk1697 2 жыл бұрын
I want to change the game mode.
@tabularasa0606
@tabularasa0606 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.floridamanphd We need more mods to come out.
@ErrantMasa
@ErrantMasa 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.floridamanphd maybe. still trying to figure out why Lilith apparently skipped the tutorial -- speedrunner?
@maxxam3590
@maxxam3590 Жыл бұрын
This shouldn't make so much sense...
@bitcores
@bitcores 2 жыл бұрын
8:34 They didn't INDEPENDENTLY regard the account as historical, though, so you really can't just add them together like that. It's like if a friend thinks he saw Elvis alive, tells me and I believe him. It doesn't make the sighting more likely to be true because there are now two people who believe it. The more people we tell and the more people who come to believe it, doesn't make the sighting more likely to be true. What you'd want is more independent sightings.
@derrickbillings8654
@derrickbillings8654 2 жыл бұрын
"Your Inner Fish" by Neil Shubin (on Dapper Dino's bookshelf) is an excellent book.
@geraldmeehan8942
@geraldmeehan8942 2 жыл бұрын
If you believe in creationism I have a jolly red clad elf, an egg decorating rabbit and a tooth collecting fairy to tell you about too ! Thank you Aron for standing up for reason and discrediting superstition. There are sooooo many arguments against the omni god
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me more about this hare, my fine sir. My curiosity is truly piqued!
@JackieOwl94
@JackieOwl94 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to tell you about the wonderful salvation that awaits all our hearts when we die. Have you heard of the all-powerful Keyblade?
@geraldmeehan8942
@geraldmeehan8942 2 жыл бұрын
@@JackieOwl94 lol, I've studied alot of scripture and watched alot of Christians. I don't have the patience for all that rot. I'm betting against the arrogance of mankind and taking my eternal rest someday like every other living thing on the face of this Earth has
@geraldmeehan8942
@geraldmeehan8942 2 жыл бұрын
@@NubsWithGuns So is a a good portion of New Testament
@JGM0JGM
@JGM0JGM 2 жыл бұрын
"There are sooooo many arguments against the omni god" Indeed, but even if there wasn't a single such argument, every single arguments I've heard that was offered to support the claim that that a particular god exists was fallacious (except for a true deistic god, but that is like nihilism, who cares?) So.... in the end, doesn't matter how you look at it, the only thing we can state for certain is that according to available evidence gods are nothing but fictional characters...
@morphrelink
@morphrelink 2 жыл бұрын
There will eventually be a response video where Aron Ra won't even have to make new material for it. It will just be a compilation of his rebuttals sourced and clipped from previous videos.
@RCGamex
@RCGamex 2 жыл бұрын
I heard Dr. Dan talking and I was worried I had blacked out and auto play took me to another video. All the same, I’m glad to see collaboration between people with different backgrounds and specialities.
@jujuplayboy
@jujuplayboy 2 жыл бұрын
Those mythological stories (forbidden fruit guarded by talking snake, flood-and-ark) existed before the biblical version, BUT the biblical version is the original one because R E A S O N S.
@Leith_Crowther
@Leith_Crowther 2 жыл бұрын
My version of an evil space empire fighting some ragtag rebels is the original one because I changed some details and made bigger claims.
@benarmstrong6363
@benarmstrong6363 2 жыл бұрын
BeCaUSe a BoOk sAYs
@smith22041
@smith22041 2 жыл бұрын
Like their argument that the devil either went back in time, or knew the future so he could copy the biblical account before it happened.
@Starhawke_Gaming
@Starhawke_Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@benarmstrong6363 - or like Paul likes to say: 🎶 For the Bible tells me so 🎶
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
@@Leith_Crowther the sacred tale of... Astro Conflicts
@FabioMarziali
@FabioMarziali 9 ай бұрын
I'm so happy you chose my music! I am just disappointed I have discovered it only now 😅
@Sang-Je
@Sang-Je 2 жыл бұрын
I love how thoroughly thought-out these videos are so any laymen can easily understand these topics. Thank you so very much for your diligence and service to uphold the truth.
@Marniwheeler
@Marniwheeler 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! You don't need a degree, but you can actually learn a fair amount. I really enjoy these
@jrskp3677
@jrskp3677 2 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with you but, those who would watch this also have to be able to be honest with themselves and their "conviction of faith"(whatever that really means) usually prevents it. "If the bible said Jonah swallowed the whale", they'd believe it mentality.
@mikebeagley
@mikebeagley 2 жыл бұрын
45:53 So tell me again how the deity in the bible made Adam!!?? Seems even the narrator does not believe that story in his own book of fables? Thanks for all your straight talking and reasonably clear delivery of actual facts Aron
@blackice9088
@blackice9088 2 жыл бұрын
If the eye and the ear are so perfectly designed, why do some people need hearing aids and others need glasses?
@DavidSmith-vr1nb
@DavidSmith-vr1nb 2 жыл бұрын
I just realized, he's going to launch into a big list of "irreducibly complex" things you've already debunked a dozen times. I can't watch this right now, it's going to hurt my brain.
@glenhill9884
@glenhill9884 2 жыл бұрын
Aron, THANK YOU for bringing in Dr. Dan from Creation Myths. He provided not only another person in this discussion, but such clear explanations that it was refreshing. I love all of the scientific parts, of course, but the best was when he explained how creationists have been dishonest in quote mining Ann Gibbons' paper. Kudos to you, Dan!
@Dingomush
@Dingomush 2 жыл бұрын
Love that “House of the Rising Son” outro! Thanks for all your hard work….
@jameshall1300
@jameshall1300 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched it yet, but just about to get started. Been waiting on the next one of these 😎
@scienceexplains302
@scienceexplains302 2 жыл бұрын
How would those people who didn’t know Cain, know that he had killed Abel? Where did they get their Moses-like morality if not from Yahweh? The Bible didn’t exist. Conclusion: Even the Bible says that morality doesn’t always come from a god.
@hurrayboy1995
@hurrayboy1995 2 жыл бұрын
Well God has magically carved his morality on your heart ofc. If it contradicts or is unexplained it's magic
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
@@hurrayboy1995 **miracles** That's the term they prefer... which is the same sht
@jonathonrobinson7236
@jonathonrobinson7236 2 жыл бұрын
Have you wondered if there was any “proof” of the miracles of Jesus, outside the Bible (and outside of the writings of believers)? There are documents in which these writers provided us with evidence that Jesus worked miracles, but in writing, intended to downplay belief in such miracles. The first comes from the Babylonian Talmud 43a. Babylonian Talmud (late first or second century AD) Babylonian Sanhedrin43a-b “On the eve of the Passover they hanged Yeshu and the herald went before him for forty days saying [Yeshu] is going forth to be stoned in that he hate practiced sorcery and beguiled and led astray Israel. Here Jesus is accused of sorcery, in obvious parallel with the charge leveled in Matthew 12:22-23. The writer of the Talmud does not agree that Jesus worked bona fide miracles, but he reports that he did things which, to the enemy of Jesus could only be written off as sorcery. In the very early century AD Jewish literature, in "tHul 2:22-23" it is reported that healings were done in the name of Jesus. So we have indirect confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus and of his working of public miracles-only charging that the miracles were worked by Satan, not God. The point I would make from this material in the Jewish Talmud from the late first century is that it proves that Jesus was a person they felt they had to deal with and that it was sufficiently common knowledge that he worked signs and wonders that they felt they had to address this by claiming that Jesus did his miracles by the power of Satan (sorcery). Does this “prove” that Jesus worked miracles? Maybe or maybe not. What it proves is that many in his day were convinced that he worked miracles and that his enemies were aware of sufficient positive evidence of this that they felt they needed to explain it. In summary, the request for “proof” in written documents that Jesus did in fact work miracles from non-believers is, logically, a very high bar indeed. We can assume that most of those who witnessed his miracles either came to believe in him or found ways to explain away what they saw. In fact, I believe that it is striking that we have these two documented examples of non-Christians feeling the need to explain what seems to have been common knowledge that there was much reason to believe Jesus worked miracles. This does indeed corroborate the accounts of miracles and wonders performed by Jesus in the Bible.
@jonathonrobinson7236
@jonathonrobinson7236 2 жыл бұрын
I find it striking that proof exists about Jesus from unbiased sources outside of the Bible. Some of these writers have provided direct evidence of Christians, while others have provided indirect evidence of the existence of Jesus and of His crucifixion. The writings of these writers offer a peek into the current events taking place from the late first century to the late second century. I find difficulty in downplaying or explaining away these writer's writings on the account of the prestige and social position they held, and the disdain illustrated in some of their writing. I only provided writing for four writers and the remaining five writers are included in my table chart located on my channel. Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus, Phlegon, Thallus, Julius Africanus, Flavius Josephus Tacitus, The Greatest Roman historian and senator Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. He then describes the torture of Christians: Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired. Nero offered his gardens for the spectacle, and was exhibiting a show in the circus, while he mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer or stood aloft on a car. Hence, even for criminals who deserved extreme and exemplary punishment, there arose a feeling of compassion; for it was not, as it seemed, for the public good, but to glut one man’s cruelty, that they were being destroyed. Mara Bar-Serapion, He was a Syrian philosopher, who wrote a letter to his son sometime after AD 73. There is only one manuscript of his letter in existence and preserved in the British Museum. "What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime. What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise King? It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera. Nor did the wise King die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given." Lucian, "The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day-the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account. … You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains their contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. All this they take quite on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common property." Pliny the Younger, Is another valuable historical source for information on Jesus and the early Church. Pliny was the governor of the Roman province of Bithynia, located in Asia Minor. In the year 112 AD, he wrote to the Emperor Trajan, asking how he should deal with those in his region who have been accused of being Christians. In the letter, Pliny describes the practices of these “criminals”: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food-but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
@scienceexplains302
@scienceexplains302 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathonrobinson7236 By that logic, child sacrifice works. The king of Moab sacrificed his son, which his enemies, the Israelites, “confirm” in the passage below. By your logic, this is evidence that child sacrifice works and can turn battles around. 2 Kings 3:24-27 When the king of Moab saw that the battle (against Israel and its temporary allies) had gone against him, he took with him 700 swordsmen to break through to the king of Edom, but they failed. Then he took his firstborn son, who was to succeed him as king, and offered him as a sacrifice on the city wall. The fury against Israel was great; they withdrew and returned to their own land, even tho Yahweh was on their side and had prophesied that Moab would be in their hands (3:18-19).
@Aengus42
@Aengus42 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Aron! I really appreciate the time, study & effort you put into this channel. I've been subscribed since the beginning yet I still look forward to each new video.
@o0b.a.d.fluppy0o39
@o0b.a.d.fluppy0o39 Жыл бұрын
what is this saxversion of house of the rising sun in the outro? it is so gooood! cheers✌ edit seen it now .....😅
@Skylancer727
@Skylancer727 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah animals have morals, like how gorillas morn the dead. I even had a cat that if he got too agressive and hurt you, he'd go into this small cat box and stay there for about 10 minutes.
@bryanmack5410
@bryanmack5410 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve had a parrot for the last 22 years. Like having a perpetual 3-year old.
@mrh3894
@mrh3894 2 жыл бұрын
it's absurd that people still hold onto these beliefs and then try to impose them on the rest of us
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to impose their beliefs on the rest of us is what angers me the most. They are succeeding, to the great enrichment of televangelists and big business.
@mortalvombat66
@mortalvombat66 2 жыл бұрын
That guy just said the chimp's genome was more complex than our own meaning that God put more thought and effort into "designing" chimps than him and i just find that hilarious
@PabloSanchez-qu6ib
@PabloSanchez-qu6ib 2 жыл бұрын
Well he did design a better eye for octopuses.
@bobinthewest8559
@bobinthewest8559 2 жыл бұрын
Since “intelligent design” is apparently “less than perfect”... 1) doesn’t that prove that “god” didn’t do it? 2) if god didn’t do it... who did? 3) if you still insist on believing there is a god... why would he spend so much time designing and creating “less than perfect” products? Does he have a sick and malicious sense of humor? Is he “just practicing”? Why would a “perfect god” NEED practice? 4) if there actually IS a god... and if he actually IS practicing to “perfect” his techniques... Holy sh!+ ... I CAN’T WAIT to see what he will create once he’s got his techniques “perfected”... 😂🤣
@flynnbailey530
@flynnbailey530 2 жыл бұрын
diggin the jazzy outro Aron
@Dan_C604
@Dan_C604 2 жыл бұрын
So, I should demand god for a refund, my eyes always needed glasses. It looks like it wasn’t that perfect to begin with….. and I’m not alone with this…
@trick7039
@trick7039 2 жыл бұрын
The new outro music is amazing btw! I loved it. Definitely worth keeping
@CaseAgainstFaith1
@CaseAgainstFaith1 2 жыл бұрын
Old joke: An atheist dies and finds himself in the presence of God. The atheist says, “well I’ll be damned!”
@MaleINTP
@MaleINTP 2 жыл бұрын
What the guy says in 42:26 is what I told a bishop when i visited one to ask for my excommunication. He told me that he believed that the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve and the flood were purely metaphorical. I asked him "if that's the case, what's the point of dying for a mythological story? If there was no fall, there was no sin and therefore no reason for a sacrifice." I don't remember his answer but i remember him going back to Jesus and just accepting the new testament.
@Beardshire
@Beardshire 2 жыл бұрын
"If this isn't true, it means god never existed, so that proves he did" LOL
@Angelmou
@Angelmou 2 жыл бұрын
Those creationists speak but it is not consistent human communication it is feelings expressions via noises disguised or mistake for language. You literally see the feeling twists behind some of the sentences. It goes from shock to feeling empty and lonely to denial and to be even prideful about the denial so that someone sticks to what makes his tummy feel nice and cozy at all costs.
@katieheys8564
@katieheys8564 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. These are always a joy to watch Aron
@ratgirl34
@ratgirl34 Жыл бұрын
I can prove the existence of spirits. *proceeds to open liquor cabinet*
@SadisticSenpai61
@SadisticSenpai61 2 жыл бұрын
"Our hearing system proves a divine designer" Proceeds to describe what most engineers would say is a bad design. Good designs are simple and redundant - able to continue to function even if one part fails.
@gatorboymike
@gatorboymike 2 жыл бұрын
These people's entire series seems to be just an ad nauseum repetition of "Buh-buh-but da Buybull sez...!" And the only fitting response is, "Yeah, who gives a shit?"
@pajamajordan2991
@pajamajordan2991 2 жыл бұрын
Another great vid…. Loved that house of rising sun cover at the end!
@joschafinger126
@joschafinger126 2 жыл бұрын
If Sauron didn't exist, Frodo's journey would have been pointless. Therefore, The Lord of the Rings is literally true.
@amineouachao4625
@amineouachao4625 2 жыл бұрын
Omg the whole picture..just shows how deserving they are . So much for honesty
@mattyoung9075
@mattyoung9075 2 жыл бұрын
Glad we got Dr Dan in. He is crystal clear about mutation rates.
@MegaBearsFan
@MegaBearsFan 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that bit about how the Bible was written by multiple authors "in 3 languages across 3 continents" is some of the most disingenuous BS I've ever heard, even from Christian apologetics standpoints. Yes, it's technically true, but only by virtue of the coincidence that the culture who wrote them happened to live in the "near east" at the crossroads between 3 Africa, Europe, and Asia. They want it to sound like these stories were more widespread than they actually were, but really, it only highlights how small and regional the stories are.
@jonathonrobinson7236
@jonathonrobinson7236 2 жыл бұрын
Have you wondered if there was any “proof” of the miracles of Jesus, outside the Bible (and outside of the writings of believers)? There are documents in which these writers provided us with evidence that Jesus worked miracles, but in writing, intended to downplay belief in such miracles. The first comes from the Babylonian Talmud 43a. Babylonian Talmud (late first or second century AD) Babylonian Sanhedrin43a-b “On the eve of the Passover they hanged Yeshu and the herald went before him for forty days saying [Yeshu] is going forth to be stoned in that he hate practiced sorcery and beguiled and led astray Israel. Here Jesus is accused of sorcery, in obvious parallel with the charge leveled in Matthew 12:22-23. The writer of the Talmud does not agree that Jesus worked bona fide miracles, but he reports that he did things which, to the enemy of Jesus could only be written off as sorcery. In the very early century AD Jewish literature, in "tHul 2:22-23" it is reported that healings were done in the name of Jesus. So we have indirect confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus and of his working of public miracles-only charging that the miracles were worked by Satan, not God. The point I would make from this material in the Jewish Talmud from the late first century is that it proves that Jesus was a person they felt they had to deal with and that it was sufficiently common knowledge that he worked signs and wonders that they felt they had to address this by claiming that Jesus did his miracles by the power of Satan (sorcery). Does this “prove” that Jesus worked miracles? Maybe or maybe not. What it proves is that many in his day were convinced that he worked miracles and that his enemies were aware of sufficient positive evidence of this that they felt they needed to explain it. In summary, the request for “proof” in written documents that Jesus did in fact work miracles from non-believers is, logically, a very high bar indeed. We can assume that most of those who witnessed his miracles either came to believe in him or found ways to explain away what they saw. In fact, I believe that it is striking that we have these two documented examples of non-Christians feeling the need to explain what seems to have been common knowledge that there was much reason to believe Jesus worked miracles. This does indeed corroborate the accounts of miracles and wonders performed by Jesus in the Bible.
@jonathonrobinson7236
@jonathonrobinson7236 2 жыл бұрын
I find it striking that proof exists about Jesus from unbiased sources outside of the Bible. Some of these writers have provided direct evidence of Christians, while others have provided indirect evidence of the existence of Jesus and of His crucifixion. The writings of these writers offer a peek into the current events taking place from the late first century to the late second century. I find difficulty in downplaying or explaining away these writer's writings on the account of the prestige and social position they held, and the disdain illustrated in some of their writing. I only provided writing for four writers and the remaining five writers are included in my table chart located on my channel. Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus, Phlegon, Thallus, Julius Africanus, Flavius Josephus Tacitus, The Greatest Roman historian and senator Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind. He then describes the torture of Christians: Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired. Nero offered his gardens for the spectacle, and was exhibiting a show in the circus, while he mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer or stood aloft on a car. Hence, even for criminals who deserved extreme and exemplary punishment, there arose a feeling of compassion; for it was not, as it seemed, for the public good, but to glut one man’s cruelty, that they were being destroyed. Mara Bar-Serapion, He was a Syrian philosopher, who wrote a letter to his son sometime after AD 73. There is only one manuscript of his letter in existence and preserved in the British Museum. "What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime. What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras? In a moment their land was covered with sand. What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise King? It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished. God justly avenged these three wise men: the Athenians died of hunger; the Samians were overwhelmed by the sea; the Jews, ruined and driven from their land, live in complete dispersion. But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera. Nor did the wise King die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given." Lucian, "The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day-the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account. … You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains their contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. All this they take quite on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common property." Pliny the Younger, Is another valuable historical source for information on Jesus and the early Church. Pliny was the governor of the Roman province of Bithynia, located in Asia Minor. In the year 112 AD, he wrote to the Emperor Trajan, asking how he should deal with those in his region who have been accused of being Christians. In the letter, Pliny describes the practices of these “criminals”: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food-but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
@MegaBearsFan
@MegaBearsFan 2 жыл бұрын
Who the heck is the narrator for this Christian propaganda? I feel like this same voice narrates EVERY SINGLE Christian apologetic video I've ever seen.
@pwuk
@pwuk Жыл бұрын
"If god wanted us to believe in him..." - he would have existed.
@CMVMic
@CMVMic 2 жыл бұрын
There was an earlier Sumerian myth of the forbidden fruit which was actually sex. The fruit of the loom. The Goddess Inanna
@simongiles9749
@simongiles9749 2 жыл бұрын
One can certainly read the Eden myth as a fable of childhood's end - A&E gained greater understanding and sexual awareness but list their innocence and sense of safety in the process. This is, however, an inevitable fact of life, and its kind of worrying that Bible God got angry that his creations didn't remain naked oblivious children. Pullman's His Dark Matetials trilogy in part aims to rewrite this myth to remove the shame from adulthood.
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
Eve's peach 🍑 must be sinfully succulent
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 2 жыл бұрын
Any relation to the goddess (ok, sub-goddess behind Kellyanne Conway) of lies, Kayleigh Mac-inane-y (aka Mac-e-ninny)?
@ninam.6781
@ninam.6781 2 жыл бұрын
Someone said that was what the fruit really was in the bible; could it be why God told Eve she would have pain during childbirth? 🤔
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 2 жыл бұрын
@@ninam.6781 Or it could be because like with so many of our human bodily processes, it was terribly and not very intelligently designed! My eyes, ears, teeth, sinuses.......etc. Definitely not because of Eve.
@mrpieceofwork
@mrpieceofwork 2 жыл бұрын
It just occurred to me... these creationists must have never had dogs, because had they'd seen a dog devour a bone, they'd know most bones laying around "in the field" would have been eaten by other animals, in due time.
@pedrofonseca6197
@pedrofonseca6197 2 жыл бұрын
Aron mentioning Dante's Inferno made my jaw drop. I absolutely love that game and the memories it gave me, and Aron played it!
@cjfeinberg7613
@cjfeinberg7613 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t tell if sarcasm, but Aron was probably talking about the 14th century epic poem.
@pedrofonseca6197
@pedrofonseca6197 2 жыл бұрын
@@cjfeinberg7613 it is sarcasm hehe
@LordDathka
@LordDathka 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to say, that story has been around long before the video game. Still an amazing game!
@glenhill9884
@glenhill9884 2 жыл бұрын
42:23 Aron's silence and gesture speaks volumes. A fraction of a second after he made that gesture, I had done the exact same one while watching this! Great minds...
@DaemonVok
@DaemonVok 2 жыл бұрын
This saxobeat outro of House of the Rising Sun is fucking fire.
@midian767
@midian767 10 ай бұрын
Many of my own questions you're asking out loud for me. Thank you for your knowledge and research.
@LordDathka
@LordDathka 2 жыл бұрын
Aron, you are a beautiful human being. I wish you were my teacher growing up. I would have learned so much. I come from a pentecostal family south of the Bible belt. Who are very stubborn in their ways when it comes to creationism. I was the only one who was always skeptical and asking questions that only infuriated them. Never a clear answer with backed up proof for my questions other than the "good book". I hope you are healthy and well Aron
@bobinthewest8559
@bobinthewest8559 2 жыл бұрын
Just the fact that someone asking a question about a story, infuriates the story teller... is enough reason to question the story they are telling. This is a telltale sign that their “belief” in the story is more likely the result of indoctrination rather than the inevitable conclusion of logic and reason. A person who has arrived at a conclusion based on logic and reason, welcomes such questions... because they are genuinely excited by the opportunity to explain the logical answer.
@damianabbate4423
@damianabbate4423 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, well thought out, calm and thorough. Thank you for the hard work that went into this and the other content you've made.
@thephantomeagle2
@thephantomeagle2 2 жыл бұрын
My day is always brighter when an Aron Ra video shows up. Thank you for all you do. I live in a very small Michigan town of under 1200 with 4 churches in town, all conservative with another 5(or more) within 5 miles. I like hearing arguments I can make
@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC
@pRODIGAL_sKEPTIC 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in for the horn section!! Nice outtro choice 😎
@Dume_Guy
@Dume_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
No one reads the Bible more literally than an atheist. I love that
@l8ton439
@l8ton439 2 жыл бұрын
I sniff, snide?
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
Skeptics' Annotated Bible is very helpful
@phengkimving
@phengkimving 9 ай бұрын
- Christian: One of the most obvious examples that humans are created is found in our hearing system. Taking an honest look at our hearing system reveals an obvious designer. - Me: The "designer" is even more sophisticated than our hearing system. So who designed the "designer"? - Christian: The eye is even more convincing. - Me: The "designer" is even more sophisticated than the eye. So who designed the "designer"?
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
Dominion over animals somebody didn't tell that elephant that that went berserk at that circus and killed its trainer.
@lidbass
@lidbass 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody tell the ants who keep coming into my kitchen!
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 2 жыл бұрын
Someone tell the cats that treat their owners like their servants.
@wraith6667
@wraith6667 2 жыл бұрын
Christians can’t stand the idea of us not being Gods special little apes.
@kenhammscousin4716
@kenhammscousin4716 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the tapdance when a Christian who believes the Bible is the absolute word of God, try to explain why they eat shell fish and wear banned fabrics and other inconvenient things
@YokaiX
@YokaiX 2 жыл бұрын
The Jesus excuse is typically used in that case. Then if you point out that Jesus himself said he didn't come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it, they may point out that Jesus saying "It is done" was him fulfilling the prophecies and laws; thus Christians are bound by the New Covenant of Christ, rather than by the Old/Mosaic Covenant and Laws. Yet some denominations and sects will still care about the Ten Commandments. Just another classic "picking and choosing" Christian moment.
@lizphillips2283
@lizphillips2283 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the ultimate harem anime. That is the attitude of the Bible when it comes down to marriage.
@lynnasche5147
@lynnasche5147 2 жыл бұрын
The idiocy of the creationists is mind-boggling !!
@fekinel
@fekinel 2 жыл бұрын
Just the simple fact that there is more than one religion should be a massive 'clue' to anybody who can 'think'...
@GregoryWillis-g8b
@GregoryWillis-g8b Жыл бұрын
"Answers in Genisis" More like "Incredulity in Genisis"
@northshoregirl8173
@northshoregirl8173 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all of your work! You are my emotional support science communicator 😃
@Spaztastica
@Spaztastica 2 жыл бұрын
I was thrown off by the music at the end of this video, since it was so different from the usual guitars, but then I realized it was a rendition of House of the Rising Sun. 😍 LOVE how you 'tied that bow.' 😁
@craig3226
@craig3226 2 жыл бұрын
What happens when YEC see these rebuttal videos? I know at least some of them watch. Do they have a mini meltdown knowing how wrong they are?
@richardforster1239
@richardforster1239 2 жыл бұрын
Does the sunrise at 48:00, which goes "up and to the left" indicate that the crucifixion depicted took place in the Southern hemisphere?
@Nirakolov
@Nirakolov 2 жыл бұрын
The only way the garden of eden's various stories could even possibly work is if there was some higher power (not necessarily a deity) specially created animals in a menagerie based on extant animals in the wild; Plus, for some reason, used the choice of the trees to filter a progression of 'adams' (or even just multiple tests over multiple years to one Adam) until one chose the tree of morality over the tree of life as some sort of test to see if the artificial man would be ready for the outside world. ... ... Or Pinocchio, if you will.
@MindForgedManacle
@MindForgedManacle Жыл бұрын
39:57 Oh goodness, that immediate refutation of their absurd dishonesty was beautiful. 😂
@lassebongo9338
@lassebongo9338 2 жыл бұрын
Not only is this creationist totally wrong on everything, he also has a smug and annoying voice.
@kellydalstok8900
@kellydalstok8900 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t they all
@petrfedor1851
@petrfedor1851 2 жыл бұрын
"There is genealogy from Jesus to Adam, how it can be all made up" That remind me I should buy Fire & Bkood, totally accurate record of 2 centuries of Targaryan rule over Westeros.
@mdug7224
@mdug7224 2 жыл бұрын
If it weren't for great presentations like yours, these flim-flammers would be walking all over science in cruddy boots. Second tune I learnt, badly, on the guitar back in 1982. ...the folk version had 6 verses. The Animals version must have been the apologetics, clipped version.
@41-Haiku
@41-Haiku 2 жыл бұрын
That sax cover at the end is absolute ear candy.
@markr8716
@markr8716 2 жыл бұрын
I love when they reference Eve as the first woman when Judaism has writings about Lilith being the first woman, and because she disobeyed and had a mind of her own was cast out of the garden, then God took the rib and made Eve. If you take your scriptural roots from ancient Judaism, you have to take the parts you do not like as well.
@daviydviljoen9318
@daviydviljoen9318 Жыл бұрын
Creationists should watch Bones. That show teaches you how the same techniques forensic anthropologists use for reconstructing skeletons in the present day are the same as they use for fossils. They show also make fun of YECs sometimes, which I thought was funny. (There was even a plot about a guy who got murdered by a Young Earth Creationists, because the creationist wanted to hide irrefutable evidence for evolution).
@loonyman83
@loonyman83 2 жыл бұрын
will never understand how these people think the bible can be used to prove the bible... I mean by that logic then Lord of the Rings can be just as true...
@sniperwolf50
@sniperwolf50 2 жыл бұрын
10:00 and here lies the fundamental problem of biblical literalism. You either have to reject science to keep your faith or the reject the faith (or a version of it) once you learn the science. I was raised a literalist, but, once I was convinced about the science, I left the faith without hesitation. I'm more worried about how to break it to others than about the fate of my "immortal soul"
@CompComp
@CompComp 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many ex fundies went to college because of Aaron Ra. I keep seeing it, and he is a big reason I'm going.
@alanlowe9716
@alanlowe9716 7 ай бұрын
It's simple. Man created God to explain man's existence. Then created the devil to excuse his actions...
@Nivola1953
@Nivola1953 2 жыл бұрын
This story of the DNA as “astounding code, product of an intelligent designer” needs a reality check. 1) more complicated machines requires a more complex design 2) more complex “intelligent” designs, require a more complex i.e. longer lines of code to be defined 3) therefore we predict that more complex or larger creatures need a longer DNA (the code !) WRONG, The record (of the largest genome) is currently held by a rare Japanese flower named Paris japonica, coming in at 149 billion nucleotides - 50 times the size of the human genome! Among animals, the Australian lungfish’s genome is 43 billion base pairs long, which is around 14 times larger than the human genome. So either the “intelligent designer” was a moron rejected by all Universities, or a totally random not guided mechanism, was involved in the genetic evolution of life.
@latheofheaven1017
@latheofheaven1017 2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the work that goes into your videos Aron. Love the cover of the Animals' original House of the Rising Sun that ends this one too. ;)
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