Rebutting Genesis Apologetics = Debunking John n Jane 5o12

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I am addressing a pseudoscience apologetics video: "Debunking Evolution with John and Jane".
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[@jameswilkinson259]

Intelligent design would have left room in my jaw for wisdom teeth.

[@zemorph42]

Or not put in the "wisdom teeth" in the first place.

[@AnnoyingNewslettersPage6]

@@zemorph42 or given us supernumerary teeth... Growing fresh teeth every decade or so.

[@nm1915]

Or let me keep my tonsils without dying.

[@E.T.42]

Or at least not have given me a body that doesn't react to anesthetics and pain killers so it wouldn't have been such a ridiculously painful experience, even though we have the technology to prevent that.

[@vinyllpreviews9462]

Eye glasses.

[@lykortos4827]

Comparing evolved biological organisms with mechanics that were designed by man; it's nice to know that creationist apologetics is still stuck in the early 19th century.

[@EdwardHowton]

I can't get over how stupid it is for them to read the definition and come away with the asinine notion that our ancestors are missing organs like the pieces the clueless twit removed from his imaginary car. When a better analogy would be a part of the dashboard with space for an ash tray. Stuff that doesn't serve any real purpose anymore but still shows up out of bad habit. Which is ENTIRELY the same thing as "I forgot the steering wheel" I guess if you're a freaking brain dead faith zombie.

[@whatabouttheearth]

It's one thing if you are trying to make a simple explanatory analogy but it's rediculous if you are doing so to allegedly "debunk" all the natural sciences.

[@RobertTempleton64]

But tornadoes in junkyards!

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

It’s not even limited to apologetics. There are atheists who stick to such garble. Do any of you remember Michael Behe? The intelligent design proponent who got destroyed at the court?

[@EdwardHowton]

@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Michael Behe isn't an atheist, he's a christian working for an apologetics propaganda factory.

[@sqlb3rn]

The smug look on that girls face while she talks about irony created by her misunderstanding of the facts is precious.

[@Connection-Lost]

Wait a minute, you actually believe a cat can give birth to an elephant tree?

[@fizzy4149]

​@@Connection-Lost -- Evolution forbids such a thing from happening. Some of Ken Hovind's talking points are actually points in favor of evolution. He relies on the fact that the people to whom he is appealing will not know the difference.

[@phillyphakename1255]

​@@fizzy4149 you believe a dog gave birth to a pine tree! God I hate Kent Hovind's strawmen and distortions.

[@fizzy4149]

@@phillyphakename1255 -- One day I saw a cornfield. But when I looked more closely, I saw that each stalk consisted of a hamster instead of an ear of corn. Therefore, evolution is true!!

[@CloudsGirl7]

To put it in language she would understand... Bless her little heart. 😈

[@rodneytgap5340]

The parting line Jane gives about 'thinking' is so painful when you've just endured a lack of such applied to everything from the writing to the costumes to the research.

[@trapadvisor]

Damn bro insulting their costume department. That’s cold

[@jrskp3677]

@@trapadvisor No mercy! We'd get none of a theocracy was to take over our country.

[@FakingANerve]

@@trapadvisor As cold as it seems to us when we see their terrible costumes.

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

Thinking creationist is an oxymoron.

[@simongiles9749]

Yes "Jane", it makes me think that you don't know what you're talking about.

[@martinsalazar8587]

I love when Aron debunks creationists it's so entertaining and educational,I admire you Aron.

[@TheAndrebonner]

What can be more awesome?

[@huepix]

Agree. His educational value is excellent. He clearly loves his phylogenetic studies

[@danielt5547]

I second. This. Well 3rd it .. Bottom line is I can't like Aron's videos or like your comment enough. I've learnt so much about evolution. And how it debunks creationism. It's amazing. And it's led me to freedom from the whacked belief of Christianity.

[@YVH636]

@ray salmon Any evidence of your “creator?” How is it any different from all the other “creators” of other religions?

[@kickytink]

Low hanging fruit but needs to be done

[@JayTee78NIN]

It's a shame a large part of the population was never given a proper education. I was denied a proper education in public school in the south. I had to study evolution on my own. I have been studying for 20 years now. I fell in love with archeology and quantum physics. I'll never be lucky enough to afford a real education. My children certainly will . I'll make sure they aren't robbed of a future like I was. I don't recall even hearing any proper information about evolution until my final year of school which I was also kicked out of. I was expelled for smelling like beer. I did not drink at the time and I was poor so I had very few clothes. I put on my sister's boyfriends jeans to wear to school because the few I had were dirty. He was at the bar drinking and had spilled beer on them. I was asked to not return to school after that day and the school would not push to have me sent off to a boys home. I was 15 years old. I constantly wonder what I could have become if I had been born to a non religious family that valued education above indoctrination.

[@loki6626]

That is one of the worst aspects of religion, sabotaging education.

[@budd2nd]

Oh mate that’s a truly horrific story. I’m so extremely sorry for you. Sorry for your lost childhood and for the lost opportunities, that your parents should have provided for you.

[@mikehunntt5338]

You sound like a incredibly intelligent and heroic person to me!

[@Z4r4sz]

*_"It's a shame a large part of the population was never given a proper education."_* Thats why theism thrives among the least educated.

[@budd2nd]

@@Z4r4sz Absolutely I couldn’t agree more.

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

I love how that textbook they put up on screen invalidates everything they say afterwards. This is probably why Creationists don't usually cite their sources 😂

[@WillPhil290]

The other day, my girlfriend's mother asked if she thought evolution is a real thing. She said yes (obviously because she's a smart human) and her mom laughed in her face... And laughed even harder when my girlfriend came out as an atheist. It was kinda heart breaking. To be mocked by people that have less of an understanding of science than a fifth grader is humiliating. I wish I was there to defend her from these miserable idiots (her parents) but I wasn't. I continue to try and deepen her understanding and help her defend herself but even if you are somewhat educated, things arnt always on the tip of your brain... It infuriates me.

[@jursamaj]

I hate to say it, but it may be time for her to cut or reduce contact with such people. That's a very unhealthy relationship.

[@loki6626]

Just laugh back at them every time they mention their religious nonsense.

[@Aiza1]

Every time Jane says "kinda makes you think, doesn't it" I feel like throwing my phone at the wall. Same old creationist lies, misrepresenting, cherry picking bs! Cheers Aron, I love your content 👍

[@MrCanis4]

"kinda makes you think, doesn't it" I don't think she really understands what she's saying here.

[@satanofficial3902]

It's *SEXIST!!!* to say BS when she cows also go poopoo.

[@Aiza1]

@@satanofficial3902 dammit lol

[@SB-cm9jh]

@@satanofficial3902 🤣

[@minirock000]

How many times did she say it? Was it more than once? The idiom is "She made me want to punch her/the wall." Why throw your phone at the wall, isn't that usually where it is mounted?

[@charleslaine]

I broke my tailbone in college when I was playing baseball with some friends. I ran to catch a fly ball, but when I stopped my feet slipped out from under me on the wet spring grass. I fell flat on my tailbone so hard that it knocked my breath out. It was brutally painful. I still have problems with many decades later. Thank you Jesus for a wonderful design!

[@nickryan3417]

I dislocated mine when I fell on it. Such a really useful set of bones.

[@bigskypioneer1898]

I feel for you. I broke my tailbone when I was 12 riding my bike and hit a pothole. Just like you - I _still_ have problems 4 decades later.

[@Lolbert_Tarian]

"So reasoning in a circle is bad?" "Yeah..." At least they admit it

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

In my case, my tonsils were preventing me from breathing. They had to get removed, otherwise, ya know, I couldn't breathe. Fine example of intelligent design, right there.

[@idaniluz652]

same

[@threehead99]

Why didn't you just evolve the ability to breathe with tonsils in the way? Checkmate atheists.

[@Trainfan1055Janathan]

Man, I hate how overly-gimmick-y these are. Even when I _was_ a Christian, these jokes would be major eye-rollers.

[@MicheleGardini]

Yes, in their first videos they tried a little harder, while last ones are really sloppy from every point of view.

[@belgarath6388]

@@MicheleGardini Wait, they tried?

[@alexmorgan2148]

@@belgarath6388 Their creationists, why would they?

[@Jambuc829]

@@raysalmon6566 Argument from ignorance

[@Jambuc829]

They aren’t presenting this to scientists for peer review. They are presenting this to a gullible Christian audience. You can literally say whatever the hell you want and it works perfectly to the people who already wanna believe what you are saying. Christians don’t fact check each other unless it’s over what some scripture actually reads.

[@sledzeppelin]

Didn’t god create Eve from a literal spare part?

[@Akira625]

Which reminds me, there are people actually believe that men have one fewer rib than women because of the Adam and Eve story.

[@smashexentertainment676]

The fun part is that woman was actually created as an afterthought, Genesis 2:18-23 So initially it didn't matter with whom Adam was suppose to multiply 😅

[@jrskp3677]

Yes, from dirt-man who was once just a clay doll in the shape of an evolved ape, just like god is. Ahh magic... It doesn't have to make sense.

[@rookmaster7502]

@@Akira625 The same people who slept through most of biology class while in school.

[@kbbrown8154]

Okay the tonsil thing made me pause the video just to leave this remark. Early in my life, my mother was told by a quack pediatrician to not have my constantly inflamed tonsils removed. Claiming "she'll be unable to fight off infections in adulthood." While I do have an autoimmune disorder, that was undiagnosed until the age of 18. I missed a significant amount of school from the painful, bulging flesh completely blocking my throat - every year, every term. This became a quality of life issue as I spent a significant amount of my childhood unable to speak or swallow. While I still have them and they only cause these difficulties a couple times a year now, a little medical competence could have changed my outcome.

[@lookingglass3626]

I love that the comments for their original video are turned off, almost like they actively avoid actual answers to everything they get wrong and want to prevent anyone else who happens upon their video the ability to check the comments and find out how incredibly wrong the statements they make are.

[@nagranoth_]

Nothing 'almost' about that. It's standard for con-artists.

[@TheGarywilliams]

I haven't found creationists proclaimed videos that had comments on

[@OffConstantly55]

Aron hits yet another grand slam, runs, catches the ball and shoves it down the throat of Genesis Apologetics.

[@jrskp3677]

Wouldn't that make him "out"? Lol Wouldn't it be better to drive it all the way to home plate?

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

@@jrskp3677 not in this case ;) because the caster tryeed to slug a ball stuffed with festering mucus at the poor bater so its just justice to cram it back ''hence it came'' ;) wouldet you agree ?

[@jrskp3677]

@@Amoth_oth_ras_shash What is a "caster"? And "from whence it came"

[@Amoth_oth_ras_shash]

@@jrskp3677 caster = dude that throws it... and the rest ,well..it was made of verbal bs someone said so..where might it have come from.. come now...use a bit of imagination...

[@snapperjessen]

its easy when the basket is 3 feet above the floor :)

[@Atanar89]

Cars literally have vestigial structures. There are cigarette lighters plugs in car services like Uber where you are not allowed to smoke. Even in cars that don't have those, there is an open space where the ashtray used to be!

[@MikeB-nn4nh]

In the U.K., a lot of our cars have vestigial parts., you see them sometimes near the corners.. Audi and BMW cars have it worst.. Little yellow lights that blink… 🤔

[@jrskp3677]

@@MikeB-nn4nh They're just low on "blinker fluid". Someone really needs to tell people about that, it can be dangerous.

[@rogerrabbit80]

@@jrskp3677 Fortunately, blinker fluid is easily found in the auto parts store, directly between the Johnson rods and muffler bearings.

[@rianmacdonald9454]

Pmsl - damn good point. Now that's mic drop moment right there.

[@nathanrice7352]

I'm having trouble making it through these episodes because I suffer from second-hand-cringe something fierce. John and Jane are EMBARRASSING.

[@c.guydubois8270]

I also suffer from this condition...

[@jrskp3677]

Aron asks, "how can these people who know nothing about evolution debunk it"? My answer: it's the only way they're able to, evidently. If these pretender's of make-believe actually did learn and retain the knowledge about this topic, they would realize how impotent their position is and their arguments are... Keep up the good work man!

[@theodoravonwied5441]

They basically do not know much about anything. Even the tonsils joke was ridiculously uninformed. I spent two weeks in terrible pain after my tonsillectomy at 25, no ice cream in the world could have compensated me for that. It is a very uncomfortable procedure for adults.

[@nagranoth_]

Well, not _able to._ It's the only way they can pretend.

[@ravencottonwood2591]

I live in hope that Jane and John will watch this series, and all of Aron’s videos.

[@craig3226]

Jane: how do you not know what’s in your car? Me: how do you not know what’s in your text book?

[@jrskp3677]

Because religion is a learning disability and a poison.

[@c.guydubois8270]

My dad's a mechanic, his knowledge never implies you have any...

[@protoborg]

We need a billboard proclaiming: "Christianity noun The practice of ignoring reality in favor of a 2000 year old fairy tale."

[@mikehunntt5338]

@@BiblicalTeachings then where did your god come from if nothing can come from nothing? Dr lol what a joke

[@sundiver137]

@@mikehunntt5338 He's as well "educated" asCunt Blowind I mean Kent Hovind.

[@mikehunntt5338]

@@sundiver137 🤣

[@sundiver137]

@@mikehunntt5338 I mean, who the the fuck "proved" Jesus lived. There not a goddamn thing written about him outside the Bible.

[@Dodderyfeline31]

@@sundiver137 Seriously? you believe there is no other text Jesus is mentioned in? You really have not done any research have you? Atheists constantly claim Christians are ignorant and uneducated, but then fail to do basic research to back up their claims. Talk about a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

[@vpheonix]

A video about useless parts from 2 actors who are performing useless parts. Now that's the definition of irony. By the way, if he's wearing goggles, why does he have dirt (grease or soot) around his eyes?

[@VaughanMcCue]

Young father John will be proven just as capable with a condom.

[@CloudsGirl7]

Apparently, creationists lack understanding not only in basic science, but also in working with cars. Or just in preventing a mess in general. I suppose that's what happens when you don't plan ahead and instead trust a sky-wizard to keep any dirt (or oil) off of you.

[@nemock]

“Certain surgically selected sections of sentences” is an awesome phrase. I truly hope that was intentional. Beautiful alliteration.

[@jstube36]

Amazing. Here we are in the 21st Century. And the creationists still go by the same failed playbook over and over. They've been using this argument, or variations of it, tactic from the beginning. it's like trying to knock down a brick with a feather. Again and again. In their minds that feather is strong enough for the job. When will they ever learn?

[@jrskp3677]

They gotta stick with what they know and since they can't learn anything new from the last century, it's all they got.

[@juan0808]

In my experience they are always at least a hundred years out of date with science. That's why the keep chasing after Darwin as if science hasn't advanced since then.

[@aaronbredon2948]

@@juan0808 that's because since Darwin and/or the Scopes trial, ALL the evidence has been so massively for evolution/against creation that they have to go back to sources from less knowledgable times. Of course, even back in Darwin's day, the writing was on the wall, so they have to quote mine even their oldest quotes.

[@totalstrangerthing7419]

Its easier to live in illusion while high as kite.

[@orangetiger8942]

IMO, this was the weakest John & Jane episode to date. Jane literally read the definition fur vestigial from the textbook and immediately wrongly restated it do it would fit into their script. They never even attempt to argue against the actual, correct understanding of the term. Anyone watching would have to be willfully ignorant to not catch that. Creationists must believe their audience is too stupid or too indoctrinated to care.

[@nagranoth_]

Well, as it's aimed at a creationist audience to begin with, it's not unreasonable to think the vast majority of them ARE willfully ignorant.

[@MaryAnnNytowl]

I really enjoy you slowly and oh-so-easily dismantling their bullshit! It's such a joy to watch! Thank you, AronRa, for what you do!

[@mr.pontifex7595]

@@raysalmon6566 Creation stands where? It's pretty much ridiculed everywhere.

[@adamshaffer5493]

Creation stands? Only in Your de!uded mind.

[@Redpill-lv4it]

Aron vs. creationists. The greatest thing to happen in the last 10 years

[@Vadjong]

We have a cultural vestigial left over too: religion

[@budd2nd]

🤣🤣 I shouldn’t be laughing because it’s actually so very sad. But your comment did make me laugh.

[@necrosunderground]

Knocked another one out the park, Aron, great video, as always! And thank you, Jackson, for popping in again, too! Just as a side observation: anyone know how much money gets blown on making John and Jane, and Cowabunga Dave's videos? Seems a shame it couldn't be used for something that actual serves a purpose, like funding a food bank, supporting a drug rehab program, or maintaining a homeless shelter, something along those lines. It's almost as if Creationists and their deliberate misrepresentation of science, are... vestigial.

[@transient_]

Depends on the audience, I suppose. If it can be used to convert people to Christianity and/or Young Earth Creationism than it could mean more money for them in the long run.

[@necrosunderground]

@@transient_ while that's true, their audience isn't typical people they're trying to convert; it's geared toward kids who are already in YEC households who are being homeschooled.

[@naruarthur]

I love when anti-evolution talk about whales, it is ironic how they completely ignores the fact that it has no legs, has a vertical moving tail, the flippers are just misshapen arms and very unique head, so actually a very good example of the final result of evolution, even without the transition species we know about

[@jrskp3677]

It is something to witness how religious beliefs handicap learning.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

Just a minor correction, there's no such thing as final result in evolution. Everything keeps evolving.

[@naruarthur]

@@tangerinetangerine4400 agreed, i just meant like, considering the most modern point the final point, whales alone have enough characteristics to show that evolution is a thing, it makes no sense to a "god" or "designer" to give gills to fish and for whales just change the lung so they can just hold breath longer they do hold their breath for a long time, but is still worse than having gills and just "breathing" underwater

[@jrskp3677]

@@tangerinetangerine4400 I agree, only when any animal goes extinct does it's evolutionary process stop and thus leaving a "final form". I have no idea why creationist's think evolution in reality is similar to poke'mon or even Cell's transmogrification.

[@inyobill]

Ignoring vestigial hind leg bones of many species.

[@Nanamowa]

I woke up during my tonsil surgery as a kid also. It was scary, but that same situation happened to me where they scrambled to knock me back out with laughing gas

[@47f0]

And, if you are above a certain age, the gas used was probably not N2O (nitrous oxide or laughing gas), but ether, commonly used as starting fluid for internal combustion engines.

[@Mithcoriel]

Did you feel pain?

[@LogicAndReason2025]

I'm always amazed how ID proponents miss the elephant in the room - why the hell would we need mechanisms to fight off bad bacteria, when the "designer" could have just not made them in the first place?

[@JacobKaiju]

You know, one way to mess with a Young Creationist would be showing them a Mexican Mole Lizard or Bipes biporus, which is one of the few amphisbaenians (Worm Lizards) who have limbs, which are essentially two short vestigial front legs that these little critters use for burrowing. It's a very fascinating, and cute, looking reptile. Anyway, great video, Aron.

[@myheartismadeofstars]

My dumb ass confused the worm lizards with the whip tailed lizards who reproduce via lesbian sex while I was reading and you know what? That would mess with a lot of creationist brains too!

[@inyobill]

THey have rationalizations on hand, or just make up something on the fly.

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

As the Grand Archpriest of the Church of the Algorithm, I comment you to engage with this video.

[@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm]

Seriously, those people are embarrassing.

[@BradReddekopp]

The issue of vestigial structures seems to be especially good for exposing the inherent dishonesty of creationism.

[@clemstevenson]

Yes, the bible starts with a conclusion, without first gathering the evidence that is necessary to arrive at that conclusion. Use of the begging the question fallacy is actually commonplace, and is frequently employed to legitimise otherwise unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. Creationists would prefer to make contradictory scientific evidence look like a conspiracy...a conspiracy against their unsubstantiated conclusion.

[@taylorshelton3267]

How is it that John and Jane are talking about whale evolution when they can't even tell the difference between a whale and a whale shark? Whales are mammals and a whale shark is a giant fish.

[@simongiles9749]

Well, they do follow a book that calls a whale a big fish, so.... (And, no, I don't mean the book Moby-Dick)

[@MsLemon42]

I'm working on something that has me staring at a screen while trying to keep a migraine at bay. I thank you for your cinema-projector joke, Aron, as it bypassed all pain and got me to laugh!

[@kenndaily8451]

Apologists cite one evolutionist to debunk evolution. What if we were to site one hair-brained Christian (Benny Hinn, maybe?) to debunk Christianity?

[@Obligate.Carnivore]

Straight up! As usual, you let the FACTS speak!

[@cyberjism]

well, since most of the scriptures that get thrown my way are either quoted out of context or cherry picked in a way that is laughable, why is it a surprise that she would read a section of text and not "comprehend" it...especially when she's just reciting a pre-made script 🤔

[@ethanstiles948]

Hilarious and informative loving each new series you’ve done. Truly a golden age for the channel. So happy I found your content through the Ra-Men podcast episode with Ivan Stang about the church of the sub genius, an absolute classic. Their video from back in the day is legendary, and everyone should watch it since it’s on KZbin

[@proculusjulius7035]

For the life of me, I can't find the video you're referring to. Kindly share the link? Muchas gracias amigo.

[@ethanstiles948]

@@proculusjulius7035 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqCygaitrdaNb9E

[@davidfisher7978]

… This is so funny… I actually have two extra vertebrae in my lower back… It’s a very rare condition however it is something left over from what was supposed to be at tail The doctor told me… It probably was supposed to be a tail my torso is not in proportion with my lower extremities… So I am prone to lower back dysplasia… Thank you for bringing this up I am laughing inside while in some pain lol

[@jesuschrist5857]

4:06 reminds me of the saying "Everything is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough"

[@Sang-Je]

Hopefully one day you are part of the education curriculum. So many fantastic lessons.

[@Morgenstund]

And we have developed a new, and in this case a very appropriate, use for our middle finger.

[@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564]

Aron, I had the same experience (waking up in tonsillectomy surgery) in the same year, but I was 13 and so stoned from the initial anesthetic that I got really scared and jumped off the operating table (stark naked). Orderlies got me back on the table (not without a fight) and got the mask back on me and out I went, properly this time. General anesthesia is far better today than it was back then.

[@rogerrabbit80]

I had surgery a few years ago. The only thing I remember is a few snippets of medical chatter, and someone telling me to breathe. My thought about that last part was, "I don't need to, I've already got my marshmallows."

[@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564]

@@rogerrabbit80 It is so much nicer now. For a couple of my surgeries (shoulder bone spur removal and kidney stone yank out) They had a hard time knocking me out because I was already taking 300mg of morphine a day for chronic pain, but once I was out I stayed that way until right before they were going to take measures in recovery because my time was up (and I wasn't). The new federal limit on morphine is 45mg/day, which really sucks. I have been in 24/7 pain for 37 years now (degenerative discs), have an implanted nerve stimulator, take everything my pain specialist is allowed to give me, and still have days that are all about pain. I get nerve burn pain in my upper (C5-C7 fused) and lower back (disc at L5-S1 described as "an empty sack"), and get really nasty pain in my toes from the disc collapse that I describe as "fairies wearing boots with wire brush soles River Dancing on my toes". Sometimes the wire brushes are rusty. Fortunately I have a great wife, we have some great kids, and life is well worth living no matter how much pain I have to endure.

[@herehere3139]

@@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564 Wow, I'm a younger adult and have degenerative disc disease. I've done the pain clinic. It worked some. I need to go back and get back on the meds. But I've been using a couple hefty doses of kratom daily for a few years, and so far, it's the only thing that actually over all works best. Randomly, if I bend wrong, my back will throw out with a unbelievable stabbing pain, and will stay thrown out for a week atleast.

[@47f0]

@@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564 - Ah yes, the vertebrate spine, another intelligent design wonder. Perfectly useful as a horizontal suspension bridge, but a fine piece of engineering idiocy if you try to turn that suspension bridge into a vertical skyscraper, as we hominids did.

[@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564]

I was 30 when my troubles began. I would get what felt like muscle cramps under my shoulder blades (it was actually nerve pain caused by damaged cervical discs). Let a decade go by using megadose aspirin and then 100 proof vodka for pain control, and then actually go see a neurologist, something I should have done in the first place. The first neurologist I went to was a Viet Nam veteran (neurosurgeon on a hospital ship) who had retired from surgery but still did consulting. This was 1995 and he correctly diagnosed my problems and recommended that I put off the surgery that I would eventually need as long as possible. His reasoning came from decades of real intense work and he asserted that progress was being made so fast in treating spinal problems that every year you could tolerate the pain meant one more year of advancements in treatments. I finally had neck surgery in 2002. That surgery helped a lot and some of the issues that those discs were causing have not come back. In 2010 my lower back discs gave out and since then things have just slowly been getting worse.

[@arnonuehm8942]

Can somebody please help me out here: how do you call the vestigial organ inside Jane and John's skull again?

[@simongiles9749]

Trick question - there's nothing in there!

[@jrskp3677]

@@simongiles9749 You beat me to it.

[@jrskp3677]

Could be jerky-like. Mmm, jerky.

[@edwincasimir28]

A cavity to support the existence of a black hole. Oh shit, even that's missing. Bummer.

[@maxmax6460]

A vestigial colon?

[@wowbanjosrock]

" That bone can disappear now and not leave the animal disabled, though I'm sorry to say that... it will never walk again." HAH!

[@finngswan3732]

Your tonsil story with the cut at the end was chilling and the timing and seriousness was perfect.

[@kevindavis5966]

Interestingly, there is some data that suggest that appendectomy patients have a higher of incidence of irritable bowel syndrome, as well as a slightly increased prevalence of Crohn's disease and slightly decreased prevalence of ulcerative colitis, both autoimmune gastrointestinal disorders. The etiology of these associations is not clear.

[@DeconvertedMan]

Here we go again! Oh god - the car analogy. We gonna have a tornado in the junkyard to make a car? V_V: *SIGH*

[@DeconvertedMan]

never again do that eyeball sound! AHHH! O_O;;;

[@dusty3913]

Amazing how these creationists accuse scientists of circular reasoning. It’s just astonishing.

[@carlospomares3225]

Thank you for calling out the writers of the script and not just these two actors.

[@heiyuall]

The cup holder in the car breaks, but there’s a hole in the frame under it that’s the right size for a cup. That hole isn’t a cup holder because that isn’t its primary function. Vestigial structures still have uses because they can be used, but those new uses are stapled on, like a cup hanging out the bottom of a car.

[@Bruhntosaur]

I've never seen a metal track played while penguins majestically swam in the background 🤘

[@stevewebber707]

There are times I try and give benefit of the doubt when accusations of lies are considered. But when the correct definition of vestigial is presented twice, and then still misrepresented, and even still mentioning that biologists use the word differently than creationists want, I can't just pass that off as incompetence, or ignorance. It was quite the tactical mistake to forget to quote mine the definition, and actually post the real complete text.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

That's how AIG rides, it's not like their followers do anything more than just agree to everything no matter how obviously wrong! They could show A picture of an elephant and say it's a puffer fish, and their followers will take their word for it, no questions asked.

[@rogerrabbit80]

@@Bob-of-Zoid You mean like the clip of a whale shark, when they were discussing whales?

[@stevewebber707]

@@rogerrabbit80 That whale shark I can believe as a case of incompetence easily enough. Especially as the pic wasn't even important or terribly relevant to very much. Thinking about categorizing the ways and intent in how they are wrong gives me a headache... But frankly the intent isn't so important as the fact they're wrong on almost everything most of the time.

[@loki6626]

I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the actors, they're just repeating what they've been told and may not be aware they're lies. The people who come up with these arguments definitely know they are lying.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@loki6626 Well if after some 5 episodes, if they still don't realize they are selling bullshit, then just maybe it's fair to say they are in on it, and just as dishonest!

[@davidfitnesstech]

GREAT VIDEO SIR. I hope these two keep making videos.. HILARIOUS DESTRUCTION.

[@r0bfleming]

I feel I need to dispute the point you made about ear wiggling not being useful. As an older gentleman who now requires glasses for reading, when my glasses slip down my nose I can pull them back with my ears, unlike those who have to poke them back with a finger leading them to, all be it unintentionally, flip the bird at people. :-)

[@danielessex2162]

It also entertains children.

[@E.T.42]

Ah, but you are missing a perfect chance to flip someone the bird on purpose and then claim unintentionality... Noses and ears specifically evolved so that glasses would slip down to give you this opportunity. ;)

[@hulkernaut]

17:00 Did “nipples in men” stand out to anyone else? 😂

[@nemilyk]

Hmmm... "misunderstanding" the definition of vestigial structures... not surprising from people who also think that "moveth like a cedar" actually means "is the size of a cedar tree."

[@jrskp3677]

No dude, it's totally talking about a brontosaurus because it's nose pierces snares and we all know they had an immense snout, how else did they eat grass?

[@nemilyk]

@@jrskp3677 Of course! It all makes sense now!

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Especially that it was referring to an American Cedar rather the much closer Lebanese Ceder.

[@jrskp3677]

@@Lobsterwithinternet How did they know about this continent? There's magic afoot hmm, what sorcery is this 'eh? I think we also just made our saving throws for intelligence checks. All we needed was a one on a dodecahedron, without modifiers. How do so many fail?

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@jrskp3677 Well, you do need to roll a percentile below your cleric level to successfully use Divine Intervention. I guess the writers of Job were level 20 clerics of Yahweh. As is written in the book of Gygax: ‘Beginning at 10th level, you can call on your deity to intervene on your behalf when your need is great. Imploring your deity’s aid requires you to use your action. Describe the assistance you seek, and roll percentile dice. If you roll a number equal to or lower than your cleric level, your deity intervenes. The DM chooses the nature of the intervention; the effect of any cleric spell or cleric domain spell would be appropriate. If your deity intervenes, you can’t use this feature again for 7 days. Otherwise, you can use it again after you finish a long rest. At 20th level, your call for intervention succeeds automatically, no roll required.’

[@greasygranpapy7529]

Please never change that intro, Aron.

[@grafinvonhohenembs]

I woke up during an endoscopy when I was a kid. Of course my first reaction was to try to breathe out of my mouth, so you can imagine what a great feelign it was when I couldn't get any air that way at all. I thought I was going to die! The nurse was really good at comforting me, thoug, and luckily I fell back to sleep in no time. It's definitely something I'll never forget!

[@RecMike]

The producers of these skits are so stupid that they even approve scenes like this one where John has goggles yet the only ungreased and grimed spots on his face are the areas that would be immediately outside one side of said goggles. John doesn't understand evolution any more than he understands what goggles are used for smh bad writing, bad acting, and now even worse production.

[@jrskp3677]

A very observant point, I thought I was the only one insofar that noticed that.

[@nagranoth_]

I figured that was actually intended as a joke.

[@RecMike]

@@nagranoth_ well then like I said, bad writing. These skits are so painful!

[@chriscox3709]

Creationists brains are vestigial.

[@Dinoguy555]

They just literally don't know how to imagine evolution. "What? Did you say BILLIONS of years? And that species can change into others???" "No way man. That's utter craziness. I'm gonna believe in a magic sky wizard, talking snakes, burning bushes and magicians who can turn water into wine and banish demons. You keep your nonsense I say! Harumph."

[@cygnustsp]

6:20 Jason Alexander totally had a tail in Shallow Hal

[@karayoukai7933]

"Tough, I'm sorry to say that it will never walk again." laughed my ass off.

[@Virtualblueart]

It's amazing how normal kids programs like Sesame Street and most cartoons have characters that aren't absolute morons and don't treat kids as if they are talking to little idiots that should be talked to in a worse than denigrating way. It's almost as if creationists see kids as programmable little morons that need to have their ability to think for themselves rooted out as soon as possible.

[@silvermane5695]

It is amazing how they misinterpret, misunderstand or (maliciously) misinform their viewers.

[@Stacy55ish]

Appreciate your intellect, sir.

[@MrRetroDev]

1:58 "Selectively forgot a couple of bits" is something that can be said about any well-known creationist.

[@davidfisher7978]

OK that was awesome… On my way to the store for more beer love you bunch my arms are forever wrapped around you from Kennewick Washington Washington state on the mighty Columbia River

[@deadbunnyking]

I love these videos. You're one of the first atheist to start me on my path so thank you. Loved your book

[@kickytink]

It's almost as if they're disproving their own shit by acting so dumb and arrogant haha. Awesome vid AronRa dude!!

[@MrCanis4]

The non-believers can sit back and enjoy. They do the work themselves. So funny.

[@AlexAnder-nn5rh]

It's scary how smart Aron is. Love listening him.

[@cetateii]

After watching this series, I'm nominating AronRa as the "Great Explainer" in evolution (heir apparent to Richard Feynman in physics).

[@djr093r5]

I am always impressed by your alliterative skills! 🙂 oh, also, your not insignificant knowledge, logic & rebuttal skills. Another wonderful video.

[@terrypussypower]

Guess what? Their “Debunking Evolution” video *has comments switched off!!* What a surprise….NOT! You can always tell when uploaders have zero confidence in their assertions by the fact they don’t allow dissent!

[@jonathansmith8962]

Thank goodness. I thought I was the only one suffering the knowledge of Urantia existing.

[@rianmacdonald9454]

I do have to disagree with one thing - creationist do not make mistakes, this is purposely deceptive, purposely misleading and blatant lies. How you can still make these videos without loosing your patience is very much appreciated, I can not tolerate a single mention of god or any of this rubbish, so hat off to you for all this work and effort. For as long as you keep doing this work, you will have my continued support and thanks. I dream of a day, that all of humanity are free thinking rational individuals with no religions at all. What a day that would be.

[@holdenross]

Right there with you

[@sweetpeabrown261]

Thanks for all you do, Aron. Love how you break down the citations they misquote.

[@vianneyb.8776]

I'm happy to see a reference to Tony Reed's (hope I'm remembering it right) series How Creationism Taught Me Real Science. This is really qualitative. I should come back to it, I haven't had the time to finish it.

[@LeglessWonder]

On the coccyx. Was blown up, lost my legs (among other injuries) … but the thing that’s consistently given me the most grief has been my broken coccyx. Fuck that vestigial jerk lol

[@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306]

Cherry picking and quote mining. Tactics you would not need if being honest or demonstrating anything objectively true. They have that in common with flat earthers.

[@christyadams9235]

You're too damn funny. Really are a bucket of chuckles😉 I'm really thankful you do the work you do. Thank you

[@danielway886]

Always good to see creationist arguments get torn to shreds.

[@FakingANerve]

"The E-V-A-P canister" LOL! 😂 * *laughs in unison with gearheads* *

[@ladyfreedomrocks]

How does Aron Ra handle it. Because if it wasn't for him clearing the garbage, I wouldn't be able to put up with those 2.

[@JayTee78NIN]

It's always nice to have a new AronRa video. Thanks for all the hard work

[@LettaLeeJoy]

God they always break out the stupid car analogy.

[@Nehji_Hann]

As soon as John talked about his useless car parts I knew exactly what this video was gonna be Well done, as usual, Aron

[@ReverendHowl]

4:15 Anything can be a weapon if you have a big enough trebuchet.

[@nagranoth_]

Like an entire car. Great fun.

[@jackhartford521]

Dammit now I have to go play medieval total war lol.

[@brianstevens3858]

I'm older than Aron and I still have both my tonsils and my appendix. I am on average no more resistant than others to the local bug/infections, go figure.

[@nagranoth_]

Your appendix has little to do with resistance though, it's about recovery.

[@brianstevens3858]

@@nagranoth_ It was, while true, actually a joke, a rhetorical example of anecdotal evidence.

[@marccolten9801]

Are there really seven more episodes with the Tiresome Twosome? If they are really sincere and not just acting for the camera then it's really sad,

[@tomkop213]

No appologist is sincere. These two are very bad actors as well.

[@chrisschlomo]

Aron's nonchalant delivery of a truly terrifying traumatic experience hit me so squarely in the face that I may never go to the dentist again 😂😂

[@Tallenn]

What really gets me about believers is how they put so much faith in those primitive savages' ability to understand god, if such a thing exists. I mean, they completely misunderstood the natural world, so assuming there is a god, what possible reason could you have to believe they could understand such a being so much better than modern people could? Essentially, someone claimed that some man had spoken directly to god several thousand years before it was written about. What reason is there to believe the writer could have possibly known what had actually happened a couple thousand years prior? There's absolutely no evidence that a man named Adam ever claimed to speak to god, so where does the writer of Genesis get off making such a claim?

[@victorfraga9374]

I enjoy watching this! Thank you.