Recent Reads: BATMAN & ROBIN Omnibus

Gem's spoiler-packed review of the Batman & Robin Omnibus

[@soar123]

I'm guessing this omnibus is only collecting the Peter Tomasi stuff. The issues dealing with the death and resurrection of batman were a part of Grant Morrison's run.

[@GefilteFish.]

Pretty much. Double dip with grant Morrison omnbus

[@Oblivion4777]

I love how you're so real about this man. I was so close to buying this until I saw this video. Thanks man. Great start to the new year.

[@polboy787]

And...you buy it?

[@aldenaldo5472]

I realize it's kinda randomly asking but does anyone know of a good website to stream new series online?

[@shengcer]

Own Grant Morrison omnibus vol 3, read that first, and after that everything becomes natural reading this.

[@ocramocram1]

I've been holding off on reading this until they complete the third Morrison omnibus. Thanks for the review! I'll wait until I have those volumes before reading this.

[@heatherr.7460]

Thanks for the review. Will pick up a different omnibus instead now because I haven’t read the other stories. Keep up the great work!!

[@sextonj87]

I love this book, but it definitely requires some shuffling around to get the whole story. It's very intertwined with Incorporated and Snyder's Batman. Tomasi and Gleason are one of my favorite creative teams though. Once we get the rest of Morrison's run and then a Snyder omni, I am going to put sticky tabs with numbers on them across the 3 books to remind me of the correct reading order. XD

[@tomaszdziedzic6284]

This was the first omnibus I've ever read. I loved it even though I had no idea what happened in Morrison's and Snyder's run. I mean the mourning issues were so powerful. It really showcased the more human side of Bruce and Damien how they both learn to trust and respect each other and then seeing Bruce loosing all of that... Oh and as far as I can tell Frankenstein is a legit character in the DCU, he's a member of Justice Leauge Dark and Seven soldiers.

[@UnholyHess]

The New 52 is what really derailed this book along with Morrison's Batman INC. The reboot happened right in the middle of Tomasi and Gleasons run along with INC and a lot just fell through the cracks

[@nivekleveb8872]

The only pre New 52 issues are the first arc with Dick as Batman

[@BowmansWorld]

Absolutely love this run. Tomasi is such a great writer. This and Morrisons made damian my favorite robin. Ya the time line is a lil clunky but its not hard to find those other stories.

[@terriazcue9209]

Man i love these videos so much i had one Omni from my lcs until finding this channel and learning about ist from you now in 4 months i have 4 absolutes 15 omnis and couple library and deluxe editions and i just look forward to Everytime i get to add to my collection and seeing your reviews is where i get most my books

[@GemMintCollectibles]

Terri Azcue that’s awesome bro. Happy you found the channel

[@frankstudent]

You always stay on point, man. Great review!

[@user-mn1ff8ko2w]

Lol lol....I love to see the confusion on your face as you try and tell the whole story. I have this omnibus but haven't read it yet.. thanks for the honest review

[@cesaracevedo2435]

Thanks, your review has saved me of making the mistake of buying this book. Your reviews are the most helpful I get to see, thanks so much

[@cannafarmer]

Glad I watched this before I bought it smh. Good looks Gem

[@SleepingPolarBearAshfieldNews]

Basically you need to buy the whole lot lol 😂 great vid 💎💪

[@joshread3740]

So, I love this book, and at first I was thrown off by your relative dislike of it, but as you explained it I definitely think your complaints have merit. This is a book to read after all of Morrison's Batman run. And I agree that they should have either included all of Death of the Family or not included those tie-ins at all. Now, basically, Damian's death happens around the end of Batman Incorporated. At this point, Tomasi and Gleason were killing it on B&R, doing that really cool Nobody story and whatnot. And then the death happens. Tomasi and Gleason can't just keep using Damian, so they made the best of an unfortunate situation. They did a completely silent mourning issue which was incredibly well done, and then they turned 'Batman and Robin' into a team-up book with various members of the DC Universe all designed around helping Bruce cope with Damian's death, so 'Batman and Two-Face', 'Batman and Batgirl', 'Batman and Aquaman,' etc. I think the lack of the important tie-ins for Death of the Family and Damian's death made you feel like EVERYTHING was all over the place because its jumping from character to character then just exacerbated the issue. But when you know/have read Damian's death and Death of the Family, the latter half of the run doesn't really feel disconnected but more like Bruce's odyssey to face his son's death.

[@ivangh94]

Batman and robin 2011 issue #18 its one of the best Batman issues of all the time. Sadly people is not going to get it at all by reading this Omnibus

[@uncultured-collective]

Great review. I love Tomasi and Gleason's work and I enjoyed this book. As you stated Scott Snyder's Batman covers most of Death of the Family. No GD idea why they have not released a Scott Snyder New 52 Batman Omnibus. That needs to be a thing. Tomasi and Gleason took over B&R after Morrison (Morrison's run on B&R will be in his upcoming Omnibus). Morrison was writing main Batman title and Batman and Robin (Morrison and Quitely). Professor Pyg anyone! He sent Batman through time (read killed) and started writing Dick and Damien. Then Batman returns and you get this omnibus. It's jolting the way this reads (trying to remember the 52) but I think it is a worthwhile omnibus. Especially if you're a Batman fan. As always great recent reads. Cheers!

[@angelicah1212]

Thanks for the vid Gem! I really wanted to get this omni (still do) but will probably try to get some of the other books everyone else is recommending like Morisson and Snyder's run. I'm wondering if I should get this omni anyways since it seems out of print.

[@ivangh94]

You should grab this omnibus after reading Batman and Robin 2009, Batman Incorporated, Joker death of the family and Batman and Son. Hopefully some day DC is going to launch a Damian Wayne Anthology (Omnibus) or maybe a "The Death and Return of Robin Omnibus" (lol)

[@Don_Neto_Jr.]

Thanks for the review Gem, I did read this in single issues and even the adjoining story lines & I was still meh... needless to say I did drop several Bat titles after that. Keep up the great work!

[@Chasing_Labels]

That is one of the problems that I had with reading a lot of The New 52 Batman Family comics. There was a lot of crossover stuff. To really understand what was going on, and get the whole story, you kind of had to read all of them, because the events were all happening in the same world and at the same time. I don't know why they didn't include the other issues in this omnibus? Maybe because the omnibus was already too big and they didn't want to have to make more than one volume? As for Dc's version of Frankenstein, he's been around since the 40s, he had his premiere in Detective Comics. In the New 52 he was in The Justice League Dark comic. I wish that book would get an Omnibus release.

[@normansmith9009]

I LOVE this run. The issue where Batman mourns Robin is probably my favourite stand alone issue off all time. You should read Batman by Scott Snyder and Batman Inc. too. They’re really great ;)

[@LFPXX]

Maybe Batman Incorporated will be collected in Batman Grant Morrison Omnibus vol. 3? I will watch this video later so I won't get spoiled

[@DarksideJedi]

Yeah! I own all of the single issues for this run! Great stories but I agree... if you don’t read Batman Incorporated you’d be lost half way through. Problem is that Incorporated run is part of Grant Morrison’s Batman epic. I’m assuming they will release those stories in the upcoming Grant Morrison Batman volumes. Great review bro! Love it when you do DC my dude!

[@DarksideJedi]

Grant Morrison killing Robin in Bat Incorporated screwed over this title. Up until Robin dies the book was solid.. after that the stories seemed scattered and don’t fit well... but if you read all of Morrison’s run it will all make sense.

[@BronxCollections]

Yea, aside from the Morrison stuff not being in there, I thought this was amazing, I have read the morrison stuff so this was an easy read for me. I hope you enjoyed superson more

[@Martin_TheCollector]

Peter J. Tomasi is pure magic. His Superman stuff is also great!

[@Revelth]

Hi, do i have to read both death of the family and incorporated or i can understamd the story only with death of the family? (I haven't read anything about batman)

[@derekthediversecollector4107]

I was going to read this in trades but I'm glad I watched this before I made the transaction. Save myself Money.

[@fishin4bass2002]

This book is a reason why I don’t like omnibuses. They don’t always collect the entire stories and it leaves a lot out. That’s why you need to get complete reading orders which takes time to find the right one.

[@jmontgomery8969]

I agree 100%. I was dazed and confused by at least half of this Omnibus.

[@popculturemassacre7150]

Yep waiting to read this one until all Grant Morrison omni’s come out.

[@blacksail3911]

This is a really good run but you have to read both Morrison’s and Snyder’s Batman to fully understand it.

[@brentlevanen2252]

That’s a bummer to hear how all over the place that omnibus is story wise and jumping all over the place. DC should make a companion omnibus to go with it to help fill the gaps of what’s missing in the overall story. Great video Gem 💎

[@bistromathcommander8950]

I just wiki'd the Court of Owls, Death of the Family and Batman Inc to give me a little background for the B&R tie-ins. I don't think you'll need an in depth knowledge of those arcs to help you with B&R. Maybe a short writeup explaining the arc to help understand the tie-in would've help if there's no summary in the omnibus. Maybe it's a little different for the Batman Inc related issues as the events there have more consequences in B&R.

[@Puddin_Tame]

If a book is missing a key tie-in, they should at least have a page describing the parts of the story that are missing. I'm with you as far as not liking Batman in outer space. You saved me from plunking down coin for this book. More money for beer now. I always appreciate your honest, down-to-earth reviews. Keep up the good work!

[@timg.8031]

Can you tell me if this Omnibus book has All the 7 Graphic Novels books of Batman and Robin the new 52 ??

[@krayziejones]

We are the Gemma Knights according to the subtitles.

[@nitromasta]

Gem, so what Omni do you need to buy to understand this? I've read a Death in the Family the graphic novel... I'm not familiar with the Batman death and resurrection stuff.

[@nivekleveb8872]

I bought this and after reading it, I felt the same as you. So I bought Born to Kill, the arc with Nobody, in trade and sold the omni on eBay. The arc with Two Face and the Damian with powers arc are straight up terrible imo The stuff with Talia and the sarcophagi getting stolen is also from Grant Morrison's run

[@frankbank0892]

I had been on the fence about getting this; I feel vindicated that I passed on it.

[@nashvillainz]

Fair review but it does need to be emphasized about it’s place in the DC Universe. Like most lengthy runs, you have to jump around books to get the whole read. This reminds me of Bendis New Avengers run where you had to jump around between NA, Dark Avengers, Mighty Avengers and even a couple of non-Bendis stories to flesh it all out.

[@HM-kp1cf]

enjoy your videos man. I would like to see a recent reads of league of extraordinary gentlemen by Alan Moore

[@michaelmyers4943]

Lmao that boosie clip had me dead

[@TheComicBookHeel]

Literally just sold this. But wish I didn’t. It’s a good book

[@rubenanannaz1456]

bro i got a question , can i just read the volumes 1 and 2 papperback of batman incorporated or do i need to get the absolut?

[@GemMintCollectibles]

i still havent read incorperated

[@samuelricolopezIII]

I want to pick this up but is there a difference between this omnibus and the one due to come out january 17 2023?

[@Carlos-xz3vi]

Same answer I’m seeking.

[@blueg8731]

I agree 100%. This book can be confusing plus the binding gave me a headache.

[@GemMintCollectibles]

Blue G my binding was good. Read it in bed

[@blueg8731]

@@GemMintCollectibles That's the way it should be. But I fixed the binding in a day.

[@danhopalot]

Pretty much everything missed will be in the next 2 volumes of Grant Morrison's Batman omnibus'. I had the same problem reading death of the family in singles but not Batman Inc. all of a sudden Damian's dead and I'm like wtf? ha

[@CesarIsaacPerez]

I read all the stuff that isn't in that omnibus... Guess I need that book.

[@germaholic]

I'm reading this now, but I read Batman Incorporated last year, I think, and I read Death of the Family a few months ago. What this omnibus should've done was, well, one thing it should've done was tell you what issue you're about to read. But the the other thing is they should've at the very least had a summary of what happened in other issues that effect the current issue, like the X-Men Ghosts trade did with their tie-ins to the Beyonder storyline in 202 and 203. They could have told you what happened in those issues and given you the option of reading those issues if you wanted to before proceeding, and even if you didn't want to do it, you'd at least have the gist of what's going on. While not the best Batman run ever, I do think this series is worth reading, but DC could've put the omnibus together better than they did.

[@dj-dempsey6021]

I love me some Gem Mint Recent reads. This omnibus seems all over the place, which is a shame, I was a big fan of the Batman and Robin new 52 run :(

[@rickytoddbotelho9555]

I bought most of the issues at a comic book store when it came out. Okay.

[@21roy_]

The missing parts will probably be in Batman by Morrison Omni Vol 2 or 3 ?

[@GemMintCollectibles]

ROY21 that’s what it sounds like

[@jeanmalo7173]

Very informative, so my comment on having "stand alone" stories for a Batman omnibus is starting to make sense...stay minty!...have to pack...moving at the end of the month!

[@thanosdarkseid8695]

no one cares bout ya moving, well that info was aimless.

[@jeanmalo7173]

@@thanosdarkseid8695 If you look carefully at my comment, it was made 10 months ago when I was just starting to follow Gem's channel and I was'nt familiar with all the ins and outs, still I did comment on the subject at hand and my moving comment was added at the end. There's not need to be rude about it!

[@karanjagga07]

Nice video

[@keytothecity8155]

I agree that they should have included the issue that Damian dies in at least, but it’s written by Morrison. They should have just called it Batman and Robin Omnibus and included everything that you said. Binding in the book was also not up to par with a lot of the newer omnibuses coming out. You should definitely read the new Seven Soldiers Omnibus by Morrison. It’s 30 issues of quality writing and art for 40$. You could then get the new Final Crisis 10th Anniversary Omnibus. It’s the only way to fully understand Final Crisis imo. Also Final Crisis is really important if you plan on getting Batman by Morrison Vol 2 which I’m assuming you are.

[@ct9122]

KeyToTheCity wow could of put a spoiler alert warning at the beginning of your comment 🙄

[@Yakerbb]

@@ct9122 this entire video gem is literally talking about how damians death ruined the flow of the book and yet somehow this comment spoiled it for you?

[@tasan215]

4:40 That part!!

[@brett5569]

Which death in the family are we talking about? The original or the synder death of the family?

[@GemMintCollectibles]

brett5569 Snyder

[@brett5569]

Gem Mint Collectibles so basically read death of the family and Batman incorporated prior to this omnibus?

[@BladePocok]

@@brett5569 Nah not prior, but parallel to it, there are a few reading order guides around the net that helps to figure out which issue follows what in death of the family series, incorporated is another story, it has 2 ongoing series (one pre-new 52 and another one after that) both of them are connected to each other (the latter to this omni too), so it can be messy sometimes. So basically the order is : 1) Batman and Robin 1st series 1b) Batman Incorporated 1st Series 2) Batman and Robin 2nd series issues 2a) Batman Incorporated 2nd series volume 1 2c) Death of the family and Batman and Robin issues 12-16 2d) Batman Incorporated 2nd series volume 2 3) Batman and Robin 2nd Series onward with issue 17 and annuals and stuff

[@derekthediversecollector4107]

If you have to hunt Morrison's Batman down, takes you awhile, then you have the Batman and robin omni sitting for who knows how long on the shelf. The way they release shit just bugs me.

[@erikbengtsson6772]

Is batman incorpirated collected in the 3 omnis by grant morrison?

[@GemMintCollectibles]

Yes

[@benporter5716]

Can’t believe you read this out of context

[@kaybrzy3367]

I laughed too hard at this.

[@johnkeller2669]

I was literally about to click buy and then I watched this. Good looks I'm def going with the Absolute Hush instead

[@Joseph_inc.89]

I literally was about to purchase this book glad i watched your video man that book is a waste of money in my opinion

[@acebobbomb]

G’day Gembo, have you ever tried Victoria Bitter before, mate?!

[@danhopalot]

straya

[@YellowFlashComics]

Wow, I thought they would have included at least the issues to fill those gaps in. This is not a complete fun

[@MegaSkourge]

You have to read final crisis to know what happens to Bruce

[@danhopalot]

Or just google it. It's about the only noteworthy thing to happen in Final Crisis

[@lordchaos9148]

This book picks up and finishes grant morrisons batman run then new 52 happens. Batman was dead in the beginning of the book because of final crisis. I think some of the pre new 52 issues with show up in the vol. 2 and 3 batman grant morrison omnis.

[@GemMintCollectibles]

lord chaos i read the final crisis absolute. I remember Batman dying. I feel like he sacrificed himself. I wanna read the final crisis omnibus now

[@lordchaos9148]

@@GemMintCollectibles I know you finished grant morrison batman vol 1 not long ago , they kinda give you a 2 page explanation of what happened to batman in that omni, they should've done that in this one as well Instead of leaving the reader in the dark.

[@blackfacebogart]

I thought everyone knew what happened in Final Crisis and Return of Bruce Wayne.

[@Senorgrav]

You haven’t read death of the family..bruh!!

[@GemMintCollectibles]

Senor Grav not the full Snyder one. Just the issue in Batman and now in this

[@awesomecomicguy3462]

I’ve read death in the family

[@thanosdarkseid8695]

vol. 3 death of the family, and the old 1989 death in the family are 2 way different books!

[@Joseph_inc.89]

Death of the family happened way after this

[@tasan215]

12:45 Ha!!!

[@YellowFlashComics]

Batman died from when he fought Darksied with the Justice League. Well, he didn't die, he was sent back in time lol. It was dumb.

[@krishnansutewari470]

Great, honest review. Seems like an absolute mess. Won't be buying this. Best thing about this omni seems like is that amazing cover of the two of them

[@TMNerdy]

📺👀

[@Ginzino]

Dude, you need to fix that scratch on your desk.

[@GemMintCollectibles]

Ginzino it shows character lol

[@12flopy]

Hi Gem. I wish to know what comic is next to your Sideshow Wolverine Statue. I also have one and I really love to have the book that inspire the statue. Can you help me? Have a nice year 2019!! (I'm writing this comment also in the newest video to get more chance to get an answer from you, thanks in advance.)

[@GemMintCollectibles]

NunoF it’s the midtown comics variant for Wolverine 1 of the new volume

[@12flopy]

@@GemMintCollectibles Thank you, hope you continue the greatest GEM MINT. From Portugal, all the best

[@christianalexander579]

It's not a book it's a comic

[@comicsandstuff616]

Gem man, I love you to death, love your videos. Y’all put out great content. But I gotta completely disagree with you on this one. You can’t go hating on a book just cause you haven’t read the material that precedes it. This is a phenomenal run, one of my favs from the New 52. Granted, to get the full effect of the story, you need to have read pretty much all of Morrison’s run pre New 52, and then his Batman Inc. stuff, both pre New 52 and New 52 (it’s only like 20 issues total). And you also need to read Snyder’s Batman run, if not the whole thing, then the Death of the Family arc for sure. But all of it is so engrossing and encompassing, and it’s awesome how the three different runs (Morrison’s Batman/Batman & Robin/Batman Inc, Snyder’s Batman, and Tomasi’s Batman and Robin) compliment and expand upon each other. IMO, the greatest era of Batman comics ever (2006-2016). Keep up the great content man

[@GemMintCollectibles]

Comics And Stuff my beef isn’t with the story, it’s more with the omnibus and what it collects. I can understand needing to read material that precedes it... but stuff that happens right in the middle of the book. It should have been 2 Omnibus that collected the other material.

[@comicsandstuff616]

Gem Mint Collectibles I get that. We already have the one Morrison Batman omni. Volume 2 has been solicited, which will have all his Batman & Robin stuff. And the third volume will cover his Batman Inc. stuff I believe. But like you said, if you can’t wait for the omnis, you could go and read the Batman and Robin Absolute, followed by the Batman Inc. Absolute. That’ll fill a lot in for you. But I do agree with many of the other commenters. We desperately need a Scott Snyder Batman omni or two. Make it happen DC!! Again, love y’all and the channel. Cheers

[@derekthediversecollector4107]

@@comicsandstuff616 But this is the thing that makes me collect manga still. Cause the stories are straight up vol to vol. No needless jumping around. I love comics but the way they release shit is fucking annoying.

[@comicsandstuff616]

Derekthediverse Collector I mean, once all three Morrison volumes are out, it’s gonna be a pretty straight read through... this run just takes place at the same time as Morrison’s Batman Inc. and Snyder’s Batman. Not a whole lot of jumping around

[@iamthomasjudge]

Damn, such a shame this Omni ruined this series for you! A lot of new 52 stories weaved in and out of each other: that's why my whole collection of them is just the slim hardcovers. That way, I could have this run and still intersperse the Batman Incorporated volumes (where Damien dies) and the Death of the family run. I skipped buying vol 5 though: like you said, it's a random two-face story and just stuck out like sore thumb. It does mean I don't need to wait for Omnia or absolutes for this era too :)

[@GemMintCollectibles]

i still liked the run...but the omni was a fail to me

[@silentg4m3r97]

Sorry gem love them vids but had to stop watching when you said you’d give out spoiler this is the next omnibus I’m going to read🙃

[@GemMintCollectibles]

come back after you read it lol

[@forgerelli1]

Indicia NOT insignia.

[@GemMintCollectibles]

so ive been saying it wrong this whole time?

[@forgerelli1]

@@GemMintCollectibles Yes. An insignia is like a logo. The indicia is that publishing info stuff in books.

[@GemMintCollectibles]

get back to work

[@forgerelli1]

@@GemMintCollectibles I'm 90% through my current project. I might take a day off this weekend.

[@anonymousbutnot9703]

Never was really a fan of Peter Tomasi. Met him in person and he's kind of a jerk.

[@GemMintCollectibles]

That sucks

[@tomtofu3352]

Dude always seems lost cuz he never reads shit lol. Should review sneakers instead.

[@theotherguy21]

This is a book I'm just ignoring after I finish the 3 morrison ommibuses and just going to new 52 nightwing