Recording Sound with a Zoom H6 and Rode NTG3 on a Movie Set by Justin Arbabi

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[@willpopemusic]

finally, a video of someone actually "applying" the zoom h6 and not just a review. very nice video!

[@filmcourage]

+Will Pope Thanks Will, glad you found this one.

[@NicConnerImages]

Yea, this was very helpful. Thanks a million!

[@pikachuv1024]

Will Pope's 6th 6th of the day before the end of this email address in your life with you to be able to make it easier for me and my family has a lot of fun to play the role in a while to the right now I have to do it again in a while to the right now I have been working with you and your husband

[@pedrogomez2248]

Film Courage why is the juice box discontinued is there another item similar to it that recommend

[@JustinArbabi]

​@@pedrogomez2248 Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@fredsanchez9245]

Surprising how many indy productions have the exact same H6 and NTG-3 setup. Im impressed by the quality

[@JustinArbabi]

Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@saptarshic]

Such a nice video. Justin is very down to earth and honest. Loved the way he explained his thinking process behind his choice of gear.

[@JustinArbabi]

Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@longshotasmr]

The sound guy has more energy and vibrance than the actors on the set. Put him in coach!!!

[@Desktop-Documentaries]

Thanks Justin and Film Courage. Super helpful and insightful piece. Especially for newbies who are trying to find their way. Great to see a gracious filmmaker willing to share their gear and learning process. (oh yeah, and great dancing gig at the end) ;)

[@JustinArbabi]

Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@StevenSmith-nq5xe]

Excellent, extremely helpful video. Thanks for the very clear step-by-step explanation and perspective.

[@woolenwoods665]

this guy has very good personality. i'd team up with him for projects

[@shakermcneil7638]

Hi, I loved your video on the H^. Do you have any comments or suggestions on the fact that there is a very wide-spread trouble being reported of the H6 on the web ... the buzzing sound in the XLR mic inputs. The XLR ports have the buzzing even when no mic is plugged into it and the H^ is set to original factory settings. Any ideas....? Are there just some faulty H6's on the market. A lot of talk about this difficulty on the web.

[@YoungBlaze]

what is the name of the Movie i want to hear the audio for the final result

[@dietwedge]

Good god, shouldering that Ursa gives me flashbacks and nightmares. Loved that camera, but boy was it a lot to lug around.

[@JustinArbabi]

Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@feistyTink26]

Do you know what connections and setting would have to be used in order to record audio with the zoom h6 AND the riggy assist (RA 333)? I'm having trouble figuring out how to use both of these together for best audio quality.

[@RobertLinthicum]

"I thought you were going to bring some real gear, dude!" I would answer, "I thought you were going to actually pay for quality sound this time!"

[@DavidGriffin]

Y'all need to do more of this... Pandemic has created a new influx of independent filmmakers... The tools why and how are super important

[@CoachAnthonyMiller]

Great BTS video. What boom pole were you using? Thank you.

[@GustavoArceMusic]

Please how can I reduce the ambient noise is the any plug in to get a sound like in your video it’s cero noise

[@BayBoyFilms]

Great video! The wireless lavs are no longer there in the links. Any other recommendations?

[@intrinsiccinema7374]

tell me something is the juice link assist better than the zoom h6 i want audio for my actors that i dont have to deal with the hissing sound it would be very helpful

[@larrytam2869]

Hi, is Rode NTG3 suitable for recording music performance in the street? thanks!

[@Lakefilms]

Do you have to use the mics on top to get the backup recording?

[@createdbykjvideo]

what is the audio bag you are using? looking for something similar for doc work

[@EfremDuran]

very cool! Thanks for sharing

[@iDealMedley]

Does anyone knows how he connects his h6 to the juicelab

[@Mile26point2films]

What kind of audio bag do you have?

[@jeffersoncheng6752]

What’s a good bag/harness for a sound recordist?

[@cinema-q]

Would’ve loved to hear samples from all the gear he’s talking about using in the film. But interesting persecutive..

[@andrewstoneberger5484]

I can't find much info on using the Juiced Link Riggy with the Zoom H6. Can you explain how those two are connected using the Rode NTG-3. I have both the H6 and the NTG-3. Was curious on the setup involving the JuicedLink

[@BryanDumaguina]

This is how I understand it. He is probably using the Riggy Assist RA-222. As JuicedLink Preamps are most probably cleaner sounding than the preamps of the new H6. He sets the Left and Right gain of the RA-222 at a similar level. He THEN engages the -16dB PAD on the Right Channel so that in case a signal comes in too hot, the Right channel will be 16 decibels less than the Left channel. The RA-222 has an unbalanced STEREO mini jack output. He would probably send this signal (via an 1/8 inch jack cable) to the MIC INPUT on the back of the H6 XY Mic capsule. He will then have the ability to record in stereo (technically a DUAL MONO file, where the Right channel is 16 decibels less than the Left channel), his boom/NTG3 mic to the LR tracks of the H6. Leaving him 4 more tracks for lavaliers. You may find the diagrams here: www.juicedlink.com/collections/riggy-assist/products/riggy-assist-ra222

[@TheGeoDaddy]

Wonder what the diff would be with the lavs vs boom...

[@guidedvisionsmedia]

How do you sync in post with your editor if you don't use timecode?

[@jacobvarley5453]

holy crap, who is operating this camera?

[@derleukos77]

Hi, why do You use such a heavy windscreen indoors?

[@Multiflaveinc]

The Blackmagic ursa can record 2 separate signal , one can be set to low , and one to High so you are sure to get the best dynamic range and avoid cliping and it as a phantom power , but hey it will be too many people on the camera i guess if you don t have time to sync audio

[@filmcourage]

+MultiFlave Tokyo Thanks for the info

[@LunerversalFilmTV]

This is what my sound guy is using for my featured project were working on. Great sound.

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Lunerversal Cool, we hope the project is turning out great.

[@LunerversalFilmTV]

Yes it's going great, thank you. Finance has been our most challenging issue, but we are still moving forward.

[@JustinArbabi]

Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@user-rg7jt7ne1f]

exceeded my expectations~

[@ChadWork1]

I would only say to try to hold the boom closer than 3+ feet. 18" is much better. And at least swap out the ME2 lavs that come with the G3 wireless.

[@spiderwayne]

+Chad Johnson What lav would you replace it with?

[@ChadWork1]

+SpiderWayne The Rode Lavaliere or PinMic are good lavs. If you're hiding under clothes, the Sanken COS11D is widely used.

[@spiderwayne]

+Chad Johnson thanks!

[@ChadWork1]

+SpiderWayne Search this video "Lav Shootout! Sennheiser Me-2 / Tram TR50 / Sanken COS11D / RØDE Lavalier". It's a comparison I made a few years ago.

[@esjehbi]

Which bag are you using?

[@radenmenakjinggo2648]

I Will download your videos thank you 👍

[@dinhtiencuongdroppii]

Verry good. Zoom h6 handy record

[@BarMerenderoFan]

I'm considering on purchasing the zoom, but i can't find any decent bag/pouch, what brand is the one Justin is using in the video?

[@filmcourage]

+BarMerenderoFan Great question, we are not sure which bag Justin is using. Maybe he will reply on Twitter.

[@BarMerenderoFan]

+Film Courage Thanks!

[@arbabiju]

Hey dude! Sorry i'm a bit late responding here. I stumbled on that bag at a camera shop here in LA and snagged it just cause it was super cheap and had a harness - if you're looking for quality, your best bet is to grab an orca or a k-tek bag. Both brands have an awesome reputation among sound mixers. I use an orca 32 these days.

[@JustinArbabi]

@@arbabiju Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@nobbystyles4807]

the h6 in 2015 was probably a reasonable choice. but 2019 f4 or mix pre 3 i think.

[@lcmpark]

thanks

[@larryFWD]

super curious - why were some of the crew members wearing masks in 2015? 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@LiveUPMedia]

hey, im wondering how much justin relies on the pre-amps in the H6 or does he use most of the amplification on the Juiclelink? before it enters the H6? like a 80-20% split? best regards

[@LiveUPMedia]

+kdx films basically if you have the juicedlink - does it really matter what the preamps are like in the recorder? :)

[@willvarner2889]

+kdx films my professor said he turns his pre amps up

[@BryanDumaguina]

I believe with the JuicedLink (and an unbalanced stereo output through an 1/8 inch jack) - it will depend where you send the output. If the output is sent with an 1/8 inch jack cable to the MIC INput behind the XY mic capsule, then the preamps of the H6 would have been bypassed. If the output is sent using an 1/8 inch jack to XLR cable to any of the four combo jack inputs on the H6, the the signal will be colored by the preamps of the H6. From my understanding of Zoom products and its preamps (and please correct me if I'm wrong), in order to bypass the preamps, use a quarter inch jack. So if the output is sent using an 1/8 inch jack to 1/4 inch jack cable to any of the four combo jack inputs on the H6, then the preamps would have been bypassed once more.

[@Timkylephotographyblog]

+Bryan D I found this not to be the case. I just did a review of the juiced link, h5 (same preamps) and SD mp1. The 1/8 mic in does allow you to set the pre at a much lower gain, though.

[@OHYESIDIDFOO]

what kind of mic are you using for your wireless lav?

[@arbabiju]

At the time they were sennheiser me-2s, nowadays i use mke3 golds and sanken cos11ds

[@electricafroman]

H6 is difficult to mix with. I had to use one when my recorder was in the shop. I highly recommend a used tascam 680 for low budget. You can get one used for under 400.

[@tymanem]

how do you apply the tascam with the h6?

[@electricafroman]

it would be instead of a h6 but thats old news. neither should be purchased in 2017. F4 or F8 for no budget features now...

[@MrStaceyw]

I really would be mixing in post anyway using the raw streams.

[@VINCENTTANG]

i have a question, so when your are recording do you just leave the zoom on record all day long and sync it to the audio with the footage or before every take u hit record so you have multiple audio files to the video files? which way would be better? or how to some sound recordists go about recording the audio.

[@BryanDumaguina]

I guess it depends on the productions' workflow. But I've gone with multiple audio files. For every sequence, shot and take is a corresponding audio file. I keep track with a log such as Sound Report Writer by Inaudible Labs (for Android and iPhone available), and give the post production a copy of the sound report for easy syncing. This is if the production uses the good old slate system. For timecode based productions, it still works; but that's a different workflow altogether.

[@arbabiju]

You are going to record and stop recording every take, ideally on the same rhythm as the camera operator. You'll hear the AD or director call out "roll camera, roll sound," before going for a take. I've never seen anyone record all day, that would lead to a nightmare scenario in post (a very tedious and impractical syncing workflow).

[@IronFilmVR]

In a few rare cases people might just let it roll all day long on their back up recorder, so they never need to worry about that in terms of starting and stopping it. But that isn't too common, and only for when you've got a back up recorder in operation as well as you primary.

[@LONE-WOLF-FILMS]

For every take, you'll record an audio file for that. This is so that the audio can be matched to the clips that have been shot.

[@gossipopithecus]

Why you do not use Sound Device, like 633?

[@user-mt6hr4qf9n]

too expensive, and it wasn't professional production, so h6 was fine

[@MrStaceyw]

The H6 has a backup stream at 12db lower, so you do not really need the second recorder for that reason.

[@labrynthgames5986]

I know Im surprised he dint say that? So now he technically has 2 backups?

[@falakoala4579]

so you can Record on the H6 at the same time? it records to a seperate file? im about to.get the setup and wondering how to do that for back up

[@silentsnipe215]

Did anyone figure out what bag he is using? Please anyone know ?

[@arbabiju]

Its a random bag i found at a camera shop, look into orca bags or k-tek for quality bags/harnesses.

[@dirumahajahdotcom]

impressive

[@nightking1448]

FİLM NAME ?

[@10ThousandPixels]

Nice review but can someone please help me with the name of the Camera...

[@filmcourage]

+10 Thousand Pixels The camera they are using on the film production is this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYHEZKBoqJl1gdU

[@vindingvp]

Black Magic URSA

[@arbabiju]

Hey dudes! I appreciate all the support in the comments, if you have a second please follow me on instagram @justinarbabimedia and if you have any more questions feel free to reach out via facebook or twitter @justinarbabi. Thanks!!

[@64videos29]

i get a bit of white noise with the NTG 3 when using the zoom h5, any tips?

[@sonidoefectosfx9728]

Good preamps are expensive.

[@spencermakote7436]

Because it’s an inferior piece of hardware with crappy pre-amps.

[@user-mt6hr4qf9n]

I have an iPhone, but the quality of video is not as good as Arri Alexa produces. Any tips?

[@SoftairUndercover]

hi, what's the bag's name? or link ?

[@arbabiju]

I no longer possess that bag, if you're still looking i recommend checking out Orca or K-tek bags.

[@SoftairUndercover]

thank you

[@JustinArbabi]

@@SoftairUndercover Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@laladuina2045]

For a second thought this set was shooting in 2020 when seeing some crew wearing masks😅

[@rustywp]

If the actor can't reach out and touch the boom mic, it's too far away!

[@petestyles8911]

+Rusty Pietrzak I agree, the boom in the shot looked far away

[@DavinPressnall]

Depends on the camera frame... Has nothing to do with the length of actors arms... SMH

[@Itsallgoodtogo]

Acting all tough is cool... but once your DOP decides that he would want a wide angle you are gonna cry :D

[@deweyweber4619]

Can't you record a backup right on the h6 at a lower level?

[@willvarner2889]

+deweyweber yes idk why he didn't just do that

[@arbabiju]

Theres no way to record a backup stream within the h6 itself, outside of using a splitter and recording to two separate tracks. Couldn't afford to sacrifice the extra track without losing one of the wireless.

[@joshuashade764]

The H6 has a feature where it records the same signal 12db lower? Says it right here. www.zoom-na.com/products/field-video-recording/field-recording/h6-handy-recorder/features#recording-features

[@willvarner2889]

+Joshua Shade I have an H6 and I use the back up feature all the time.

[@arbabiju]

+Will Varner the backup feature only applies to the L/R channel. Not the individual inputs 1-4.

[@emastersmultimedia6481]

the dance killed me mate lol you got yourself another friend lol add me 2

[@sreenath1987]

That camera thingy was funny.

[@JustinArbabi]

Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@larryFWD]

As an alternative to H6, would zoom H4 easily achieve this?

[@RamenKing2023]

I would get the Zoom F3 at this point.

[@robertovillarrealjr.8629]

use callous tape for the lavs

[@arbabiju]

Nowadays i'm using transpore and occasionally topstick with rm-11 sleeves.

[@JustinArbabi]

@@arbabiju Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@theotherone6389]

I came for the information, I stayed for the information but also because Justin is hot 🥵

[@K45ti]

That Lav sound must have been horrible

[@tvashum4363]

The camera man must be drunk af.

[@MichaelPari]

6:06-6:13 went 0-gay real quick 😂 but serious respect for your boom set up my man. hoping to have the ntg 3 by before next year along w the stuff & sound linking info

[@JustinArbabi]

Hey guys! Justin Arbabi here - a lot has changed since we recorded this interview and I've since moved into the world of PRODUCING - I am also the Founder of Los Angeles first co-live/work INCUBATOR for filmmakers! I'm documenting the whole process of growing my business and all other endeavors related to producing and filmmaking on my instagram @justin_produces_films PS were pretty active on there so feel free ask any questions or otherwise engage as you see fit! Thanks!!

[@alkevinzmedia]

ZOOM H4N....DIY??? .....what........

[@eljb8644]

+Allan Zepeda What he means is that it's an affordable alternative to the H6 and up

[@dwftube]

01:25 - why are they wearing face masks?

[@MaximTheTyrant]

Because of COVID

[@dwftube]

@@MaximTheTyrant LOL this video was posted in 2015! My comment was made in 2017!

[@leoribeirop]

ok but they could at least to show us how it sounds in the actual scene, great. congrats, grade 0