Red Dead Redemption 2 60fps: It's Time For A PS5/Xbox 60FPS Upgrade... And Here's How It Could Look

[@MysteryMii]

I still can’t believe we live in a world where GTA V has a next-gen version but RDR2 doesn’t.

[@GForceIntel]

Money is the issue

[@allan9677]

They should’ve done RDR2 instead GTA V

[@matyuuu]

Because RDR 2 online isn't big enough. Rockstar is a princess that only chase after billions now

[@ClutchTacticsGaming]

Seriously though lol

[@alister101]

Blame the fans of GTAV

[@Lattrodon]

Me in 2020: I can't wait for Rockstar to release a 60fps patch for RDR2 on PS5!! Me in 2024: What the fuck

[@techsamurai11]

Even if they offer it now, they will go down in history as the laziest bums on the planet. They still sell the game.

[@scoty3434]

I still can t belive than the playstation 5 can do those things with just forcing the console into he s limits and somehow with xbox series x you cant do that even with the almost completed RDNA 2 chip from AMD inside of it , its incredible what PS5 can do sometimes because never see this on XSX since he s launch , only with PS5 and for thats why again im just waiting about what the PS5 PRO is gonna be capable off with he s rumored 30 teraflops with he s rumored RDNA 3.5 and he s rumored upscaling tech similar to the DLSS from nvidia : the playstation spectral super resolution (PSSR)

[@purebaldness]

Your meme template comment is pretty 2020

[@Lattrodon]

@@purebaldness it's not a meme I'm just writing what happened.

[@ErenTheWarcriminal]

@@purebaldness L

[@ST-mn6nw]

Rockstar hate their own masterpiece

[@TheProphegy]

It’s coming. They’re just waiting a while so they can charge $70 for a PS5/XSX version. People who think it’s a free or $10 upgrade are in for disappointment.

[@fabio78]

It's no masterpiece, chief. And the creators know it. Very pretty, nice story, terrible video game.

[@johnrussell9901]

@@fabio78Well everyone’s entitled to their wrong opinion

[@kiwiklogg]

@@fabio78each to their own. I really enjoyed it.

[@fabio78]

@@johnrussell9901 all of us, yes ;)

[@Ajax-322]

I love that Rich is calling them out on this. It is just ridiculous at this point.

[@techsamurai11]

It is ridiculous.

[@joejoe2658]

almost as ridiculous filling up a podcast by saying "ex-cla-ma-tion-mark" and hyperventilating at every dumb username.

[@YvonneHenagar]

@@joejoe2658lol stay mad, yet you’re here, watching their videos.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

​@@YvonneHenagar hypocrites

[@techsamurai11]

@@joejoe2658 what podcast? It's a yt video. DF is right to call them out especially since the game requires a very minor change to run at 60fps and R* are still selling the title. R*'s insistence to ruin the IP is really strange when you look at Ubisoft with AC Odyssey and Origins, Sucker Punch with Ghost of Tsushima which took it to a next level with a Director's Cut offering and free upgrade. CDPR with the free stunning remake of the Witcher 3, Naughty Dog's updates to The Last of Us Part 2, Insomniac's updates to Spiderman and Ratchet & Clank to name a few.

[@SolidNeodark]

I'm going to solve the mistery right now: Rockstar is waiting until the 10th anniversary of the game to release a "remastered version" for 70 dollars in 2028.

[@vncube1]

With it somehow looking worse than the original 😂

[@ChicagoBulls1984]

Games will be $90 by then!

[@eSKAone-]

Crazy to think that that's only 4 years to go now.

[@robertlawrence9000]

💀

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

And they just port PC graphics and upscalers to Console instead of remastering anything lol

[@fugamantew]

The mistreatment to this title by Rockstar only breaks my heart. WE DEMAND A CURRENT CONSOLE UPGRADE

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

we INSIST on a current console upgrade

[@jackoski__19]

@@Redswipebruh all they need to do is at least uncap the framerate. The only reason they haven’t is money

[@fugamantew]

@@amysteriousviewer3772 I’m through “insisting”-my pocket DEMANDS an upgrade that is ready to pay for

[@SoulbentAnime]

You should take a look at how they've mistreated pretty much all of their other titles.

[@Umionoshino]

Or you can get a pc instead of waiting for years for something you don’t even know it’s going to come , easy fix

[@chimnino]

It is LONG overdue! A simple 60fps patch is just fine for me. Same with Bloodborne

[@Blasko86]

60fps is literally all this game needs, everything else looks stunning 👍

[@IgorBozoki1989]

@@Blasko86 PS5 needs true 4k 60 not 1920x2160 resolution that ps4 Pro running this game.

[@Rick-sy7sv]

​@@IgorBozoki1989I don't even care anymore about resolution

[@tmorelli1982]

Why anyone still games on consoles I'll never understand

[@lio220]

60fps is not enough, game needs a lot more for PS5

[@FSAPOJake]

Astounding how incompetent Rockstar Games is when they release one of the highest-fidelity games on last gen consoles then never bothers to do a 9th gen upgrade or even just a framerate unlock to 60. They spend more time suing modders than actually improving their existing games.

[@cube2fox]

Maybe they are intentionally not improving it with updates because they plan to release a remastered version in a few years?

[@imo098765]

@@cube2fox "Remastered" turn on the existing PC settings into the console version like this video

[@nguyennathan7834]

That’s why you no business man mister 😂 remember Rockstar has cut many projects so that all resource is on GTA 6, RDR 2 can always be milked again a few years before rdr 3 come out

[@GamingPIPI]

@Imogyoueverytimewhich is sad as many successful companies have done it for free or for very low price. RRD2 remaster will be the biggest cash grab yet.

[@Reed_Peer]

And still refuse to implement effective anti-cheat

[@samuelpilon9749]

Digital foundry exposing rockstar to how easy it would be to have 60fps on console, i love it

[@timmy3822]

One of the most bizarre things in current gaming. This was such a hit, and a marvel of game design imo it feel insulting how it’s been abandoned.

[@obredaanps3]

Rockstar has shifted its priorities after the success of GTA online. RDR Online is just not the cash cow for Rockstar that GTA online became.

[@jgalla5549]

@@xers6704 thank you for saying that, only based person in the comment section. Rockstar games are mainstream trash and glorified Tarantino movies with minimal, stagnant and simple cinematic gameplay.

[@princepeachfuzz]

​@@jgalla5549 with the way you're bashing an extremely accessible game developed for the masses, I'm curious what your favorite games are.

[@jgalla5549]

@@princepeachfuzz Yoshi's Island, Sonic 3, SM64, Ocarina of Time, Doom 1, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, RTCW, Dragon Age Origins for PC, Dishonored 1, Vanilla WoW (not the expansions), every Ryu Ga Gotoku game, Fallout New Vegas. I hate mainstream cinematic games that have next to no gameplay, and that mostly make you listen to some writer's snappy dialogue, while characters slowly walk around/drive cars/ride horses, or slowly crawl thru a small crack in a wall with a meticulously made animation that takes 15 seconds, with some heavily scripted/short/linear shooting segments here and there, like GTA/RDR/TLOU.

[@jgalla5549]

@@princepeachfuzz pop music is designed to be accessible and for the masses, and pop music is pure brainrot, and stupid, and uncreative, and designed to make as much money from the widest swathe of people. Same for movies and video games.

[@NautiusMaximus]

Rockstar waiting to release a 'remastered' version as a full price game

[@yc_030]

Probably but they also missed out on 4 years of sales from people who would have bought rdr2 if it had a current gen version

[@jonahbrown5669]

​@@yc_030The vast majority of people who were going to buy it has already bought it.

[@elsibsib7271]

rockstar want to milk the game by selling it again and telling fanboys it's an expanded and enhanced version

[@AceKurd]

At least Ubisoft gave Free next gen update to Assassin's creed Origins 2016 and Assassin's creed odyssey 2018. Rockstar is horrible

[@happygofishing]

Ubisoft games aren't even worth playing ​@@AceKurd

[@DailyGamesRadar]

It's not about the game, it's the free upgrade that devs care about​@@happygofishing

[@NautiusMaximus]

This

[@gothpunkboy89]

​@@AceKurd Pretty sure those where just 60 fps modes. GTA added 4k, 60 fps and RT Shadows to the game.

[@pedrovieira8602]

Somewhere in take2's hq -Sir, we could develop a current gen patch to rdr2. -What would it take? -About a month of one employer's work. -ARE YOU CRAZY?? WE CAN'T BEAR SUCH EXPENSE.

[@rg975]

Thank you for covering this. RDR2 deserves a next gen patch

[@oceanedetotes]

with crossplay !

[@kylebookout1789]

Hearing Rich say things like "Turbo nutter maxed out ultra" is the type of content I stay subscribed for.

[@yessaawaaazxwsz8711]

THIS NOTIFICATION GAVE ME A HEART ATTACK BRO

[@christosLz]

THAT!

[@kingkev6407]

Brooooooooo faxxxxxxxxxxx I was like THEY FINALLY DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!! Mannnnnnnnn foundry got me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@anakinskyguy6582]

I was about to start installing the game again 😭

[@imcnblu]

Same.

[@kingkev6407]

@@anakinskyguy6582 ong 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marctech1996]

That CPU limited benchmark is actually very interesting. Having the PS4 code run at 70fps or more is pretty great. A properly optimized port would run way better though. It can put asset streaming load onto the PS5’s compression/ decompression engine and Xbox’ “velocity architecture”. Current gen consoles also have dedicated hardware for audio so that’s more load taken off the CPU.

[@BlueBuffalo207]

Id play from start to finish again if they released a 60fps update.

[@sxerwin]

RDR2 being 30fps is what’s stopping me from playing it loads

[@ytb1984sync]

A 60fps update would bring a lot of players and more dollars for Rockstar, they are stupid for not doing it yet

[@Mr.WestDickens]

I don't get it they add 60fps fix for Rdr1 which is nice but why not rdr2?

[@dd867]

Y'all knew what you were doing with the clickbaity ass thumbnail and title, it worked on me 😂

[@ItzMeWill]

This is what I hate about consoles... You don't get things like 60fps or 4K unless the devs tell you you can have it..Rockstar is like "O you want 60fps?. no problem..just wait until we release a remastered version and you can pay for it again"

[@monolypse9348]

This is my problem with consoles, if this limitation did not exist I would have already thrown away my PC years ago

[@deathtrooper2048]

That is also why consoles feel better to play on PC, that's why the FPS cap for example is way better on Console than PC. They should at least have a toggle for resolution and 60 fps at least.

[@juancampos9468]

@@deathtrooper2048 I mean you can also cap framerates on pc if you want to as well

[@coffee7180]

​@@monolypse9348the PC version is filled with bugs and crashes and the worst is all does cheating clowns.

[@sermerlin1]

RDR 2 head management watching this video looking all "yep looks good"... But then ..."Nah can't be bothered". And continues watching youtube videos xD

[@razorzz2]

This needs to go viral

[@GTR24]

Send it to @ Take Two

[@Ashesfall83]

I wait for this already so long, thanks for bringing it back as a topic. This game, not owning a ps5 60fps mode, is a tragedy. RDR1 got one patch later, on the remaster version, so hope is still inside me.

[@Memoquin]

Not a mystery: Take Two are greedy and the $22 billion they’ve made from GTA Online isn’t enough for them to accept that some games are an art form and deserve a little love.

[@GTR24]

Is it actually 22 billion?

[@Memoquin]

@@GTR24 I think over the decade or so it is. Saw an article not too long ago that states that sales had generated $8 billion, and I’m fair certain that’s just the game itself and doesn’t include Shark cards.

[@DD-Tauriel]

Agreed

[@NomadBenny]

They just focus on gta v online mode nowadays.

[@lmAIone]

This is 3 years overdue. Thank you for shining the light on this situation, we need voices like you speaking about it!

[@kharitaylor3782]

“One game stands alone?!?“ What about Arkham Knight on consoles? We deserve a 60fps update for that game too.

[@JustinLesamiz]

That isn't on the same level as RDR2.

[@athenian221]

​@@JustinLesamizYou're right Arkham Knight is better.

[@P83_]

​@@athenian221You're tweakin man

[@Largentina.]

LOL ​@@athenian221

[@Jay123-yk4pl]

@@athenian221I love Arkham knight but it isn’t even close to rdr2

[@bb2status]

Rockstar is waiting to release RDR2 remastered for $70

[@techsamurai11]

I would never buy it - I might even boycott them on RDR 3 and wait until it's free. To be selling a game that has received no update 4 years later on new consoles is unacceptable. They have zero self-dignity - all the other studios are better than they are and they have to make a game that encourages kids to commit crime to sell.

[@SuperDdall]

​@@techsamurai11 They're definitely not worse than a lot of other companies but yeah it's depressing to see how they treat their online modes and how little love RDR2 received after release.

[@btwiusearch2]

​@@techsamurai11very simple solution, buy a used copy, it's what I will do for anything else from rockstar

[@willdobbs9533]

My feeling is Switch 2 will get a port, and the current gen systems will get a remaster alongside it.

[@xtr.7662]

Most likely or they will just wait until the 10th anniversary edition

[@electrikoptik]

They'll come with a "remastered" version at 50 bucks when PS6 is out.

[@lio220]

Why not ?

[@Andrew52_52]

$70

[@razorzz2]

I dont care, i would pay 60$ for a next gen update. And many others too...

[@TheScrubmuffin69]

Nope, it'll be a remastered version that comes out right before ps6 launches, and then 6 months later it'll release on ps6 as well so that you can buy it twice

[@btwiusearch2]

@@TheScrubmuffin69 this!

[@mattpetrin]

Yes Rich and DF team!! Thank you talking about this. This needs to become front and centre with Rockstars management. The more big content producers like DF talks about it, the greater this request becomes unavoidable!!

[@galacticmaui2]

1800p/60fps Performance 2160p/40fps or 30fps Quality Sounds like nice realistic options

[@payphone151]

why? game runs 60fps on 2160P in One X Settings.

[@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd]

PC fanboys are coping because they are struggling to reach 1440p60 so obviously in their eyes PS5 could never reach 4K60😅😂😂​@@payphone151

[@sir.fender6034]

You know Rockstar will charge full price for a 60 FPS upgrade. Greed is killing video games.

[@Trashedaccount123]

I’ve been putting off this game for a next gen update, I really miss playing this gem

[@shyff2188]

« One game stands alone » my mind went to Bloodborne

[@chillnagasden6190]

Man, Bloodborne desperately needs a fix to that dog shit frame rate. Asking the player to microsecond-precisely dodge some bad hitbox attacks that fill half the room but the framerate can't keep up so the input drops. It was frustrating.

[@shyff2188]

@@chillnagasden6190 don’t know why an upgrade/remaster hasn’t happened yet

[@Dedded00000]

Same! Already play RDR2 on PC anyways.

[@seanc6754]

We seriously need to start a petition lol

[@FreeAimDog]

@@chillnagasden6190 at that point it would be a button spamming guessing game because you would have to do it before the animation or it would not count, you cant beat it

[@RhynaX]

Rdr2 running at checkerboard 4k is a crime!

[@kresimirmandic3807]

It looks so horrible on my TV it's unplayable. Never had any problem with any game on my PS4 Pro (now PS5) except RDR2. It was the waste of money buying this game and stupid me bought digital version. For years I have been waiting for greedy Rockstar to fix it, but no.. It's horrible as I believe I would love the game and would have spent hundreds of hours playing if only it had decent image quality.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

@@kresimirmandic3807 So I guess it's a problem with RDR2 (Red Dead 3 Redemption 2 :P) specifically? E.g. Horizon Zero Dawn seems to look fine in 2160c at 60fps on PS5.

[@curiousmind_]

​@@kresimirmandic3807 play on 1080p mode. Sharper image and flat 30 fps.

[@DWOMT]

@@kresimirmandic3807 change the PS5 to 1080p resolution. Then in the RDR2 display settings, there will now be a sharpening option. Crank it up, and the game will look much better. This is what I had to do. You'll always have to play the game this way though until they update it, if ever. But it looks way better than the crappy checkerboard 4K.

[@FrigidHeights]

*laughs in series x*

[@jpjones1186]

Absolute whiplash from that title. Man alive - superb video though that gives a really decent insight into what might be possible with a native current gen port.

[@coreysleep8922]

Waiting for this upgrade to finish my Epilogue and make a second playthrough. I think I'd even pay a small fee for the upgrade.

[@zedrake]

The likes of IGN, DF, Gamespot, bigger gaming channels like SkillUp need to literally pressure Rockstar and ask them perpetually whats going on and do some actual journalism

[@MrJonnyHovo]

I’m so glad DF made a dedicated video for this! I can only hope Rockstar will listen

[@jacobterpstra7490]

Thank you for making this video. We need to keep talking about this. It’s ridiculous this game has been “forgotten” by rockstar on consoles.

[@GodEyes10]

There is no valid excuse for running a 2018 game at 30 fps on new gen consoles.

[@v1kt0u5]

Well well, my Digital Fellas, I'm glad your finally addressed precisely what I meant with my "supporter question" in your DF Direct Weekly 137, before you started talking about it while answering further questions from other members ;D Since that day, with "simple/easy patch", I thought about just "unlocking the framerate" with some modified settings would be enough from PS4P/XOX to PS5/XSX.

[@ChillinDylanX]

Thank you guys for bringing a voice and attention to this issue because I was literally just thinking about it last night while playing on PC.

[@n0ah7]

Crazy the purely console folks never got to play RDR2 in 60+ fps. I just took it for granted to be playing RDR2 in 90+ fps at max graphic setting @ 1440p on my PC. The downside of PC Gamer is having to wait 1 year after console for GTA and RDR2. 😮

[@kresimirmandic3807]

I wish I could have played it at all. Had PS4 Pro (now PS5), bought the game digitally and the image quality on my TV is a horrible blurry mess it's unplayable. Never had any problem with any game regarding the image quality on my TV. Wish I could just play it on native 1080p but non of the solutions I tried worked. I wanted them to fix it for years, but it's greedy Rockstar/Take-two we're talking about.. I wasted money and was robbed of hundreds of hours of wild west enjoyment.

[@x_xvihtahousux_x1969]

I'm very happy with the console overall but definitely sucks that rockstar doesnt care to make the 60fps patch for consoles. i'm still happy with rdr2, It looks beautiful with a 4k tv on the PS5.

[@CubamusPrime]

Same with Bloodbourne. These developers don’t care anymore.

[@Shinssue]

isn't studio problem, more on editor side. Maybe Rockstar want make an update for 60fps mode but they can't do it without Take2 lead.

[@samcandles]

not the same as bloodborne at all the studio that made this game is still around lol

[@AVerySillySausage]

It's a console problem, having to wait for devs to patch a game to take advantage of your hardware is ridiculous, this is what happens.

[@sandr921]

Do you really not understand that they can make way more money from a remake down the line

[@tomohawkcloud]

It’s pretty clear Sony is waiting for the 10 year anniversary so they can make it a ps6 exclusive

[@NoEvilEye]

They should release a proper upgrade for ps5 pro, i don’t mind paying $10 to upgrade my ps4 version.

[@kriss5081]

💯

[@glebcreativ1]

Why give you upgrade for $10 if they can charge you $60 a bit later with above-medium PC settings.

[@oceanedetotes]

@@glebcreativ1 not above medium setting, better than Ultra high thanks to the upscale

[@ARIXANDRE]

I booted the game up on PS5 yesterday and I just couldn't take the fps/resolution. Rockstar, Valve and Nintendo: Unpredictable, rich and don't give two sh*ts.

[@TurnerTurnip]

I don't blame you. Anything under 120FPS is garbage. And yet some people even settle for 30FPS.

[@curiousmind_]

​@@TurnerTurnip lol you're missing out. I still play ps2, Wii, PS3.. the best games. Frame rate isn't everything

[@TurnerTurnip]

@@curiousmind_ I played the game on PC. And my framerate was averaging around 120FPS. I played about 20 hours of the game. I still haven't finished it. Maybe one day I'll get around to doing that

[@TurnerTurnip]

@@warumdach9707 15 fps is also "playable", but it will just be a very crappy experience. I actually even get a headache and motion sickness when I play a game at 30fps. 30fps is why I finally quite the consoles and moved to PC. If 120fps becomes the new console standard, then I'll go back to then consoles.

[@curiousmind_]

@@TurnerTurnip I get it. You experienced 120 fps and can't go back to lower frames anymore. Me as long as the game has proper frame pacing. and a stable frame rate, I'll enjoy it. Let's just say my eyes adjust to different frame rates easily.

[@Sunbrosolaire]

cries in bloodborne

[@VincentVanBro]

Replaying it at maximum settings locked at 120 fps with DLDSR rendering at 2.25x native res and then downscaling to 4k. It creates an incredibly sharp image that shows off the astounding detail in the game. Best way to play period, but it essentially requires a 4090.

[@3n3j0t4]

what’s ur native res

[@thecatdaddy1981]

Greed. That's the reason they haven't done it. I wouldn't expect some patch out of nowhere. They will sell it again as a standalone game for full price to milk their customers. They did it with GTA 5, and they did it with RDR1 for PS4 and Switch.

[@v1kt0u5]

Yep, regardless of how easily & fast a simple 60fps patch with "increased settings" could be implemented, of course they won't do any of that without a paid re-release in the form of a "remaster" for the sell to be justified. F them ;(

[@thecatdaddy1981]

@@Redswipe "Leave the multibillion dollar company alone"

[@marcelosoares7148]

RDR1 isn't full price, though. Plus, the game didn't even exist for the PS5 and Switch, so it's not like GTA V where you could play the other version already (Switch doesn't have GTA V, obviously).

[@AdiiS]

Console waiting master race waiting for years on 60fps patches that literally takes 10 sec on PC to flip a switch in the settings and get that fps lol

[@thecatdaddy1981]

@@marcelosoares7148 Whatever price the recent RDR1 release was, it's still not justified IMO. It's the exact same game with the same assets, nothing changed except increased resolution and FPS which you would get if you got a new PC. If it was a proper remake/remaster, then fair enough. GTA 5 stretched that definition since it's still the same core game, with a few RT effects sprinkled on.

[@frankynakamoto2308]

Rockstar needs to add a next gen expansion with new animations, more content, new missions, and also a ray tracing 30fps option in the expansion, with a frame unlock mode as well. They sell the expansion and everyone wins..

[@aseretto015]

Thanks digital foundry for putting pressoure on rockstar

[@curiousmind_]

Pressoure? Lol good luck with that. If you're lucky they'll release a remastered version that you will pay for again. If you're lucky

[@DarshUK1]

They might not want people to get used to 60fps if GTA6 is 30fps next year

[@uh0p]

Interesting theory but wouldn’t they just implement a performance/fidelity mode?

[@Foreverlost598]

Nah because gta 5 has 60fps with raytracing mode.

[@curiousmind_]

They're just not the kind to release a 60fps patch. Maybe they will release a remastered version otherwise it will most likely stay that way. And GTA 6 is going to be 30fps no doubt and no, they won't have a performance and fidelity mode.

[@Largentina.]

But V already has 60 fps. So there goes that theory.

[@Jay123-yk4pl]

Rdr1 is 60 fps lmao once you play it that way you won’t be able to go back to rdr2 being 30 fps

[@stingus]

RDR2 was one of the first games I've purchased alongside the XSX I got on preorder. I checked it out - "Oh, it's 30 fps... Alright, I'll wait for a patch". Still waiting... This is disgusting behavior. Not going to give them a single cent anymore.

[@goonerlee]

Disgusting behavior?? Entitled much? Jeezus some of you people should listen to yourselves😆

[@thespeedtapper4]

​@@goonerleeHow exactly is expecting a company to provide a current gen patch to a beloved title people paid money for entitled?

[@likklegoon]

@@thespeedtapper4you bought it for ps4, no where did it indicate that a ps5 version would come

[@thespeedtapper4]

​@@likklegoonFair point. But I would still argue when me as both a console and PC player can purchase the same game on PC for cheaper and get a far superior experience than console owners who are left eating shit, it's definitely a slap in the face to the consumers that made the game so successful in the first place. So while it may be a hopeless cry for a current gen version, I wouldn't call it entitled, even if there was no promised PS5 version upon purchase.

[@Sancsteq]

R* make billions from very little work with GTA online, but they can't just get an intern to literally just turn 60fps on in the code, it's really that simple. Yes, it's disgusting for any game to not have a 60fps mode, because it's so easy. ​@likklegoon

[@maiconmachado5630]

Please Rockstar! Make the world a better place and release this current gen console upgrade for RDR2! Come on!

[@Niiipon]

I miss playing RDR2 with 4K and 60 fps on my TV with Google Stadia

[@KimberlyMartin-bg8ji]

Your videos are a breath of fresh air, always enjoy watching

[@semtexxl4023]

Stutter problem in RDR2 was introduced by the herbalist update a years ago and it is still not fixed on PC requiring you to using mods to fix the issue using async compute mode through settings text file modification. And those are not always ideal. You can only dream on here....seriously.

[@jefp65]

I like how Rich is trying to shame Rockstar into doing this. Doubt it will work though. Rockstar just don't give a f**k.

[@majinzombiegenocider]

Well, it sorta worked with RDR1 on PS4. If you remember, there was big backlash on how they didn’t even bother to update the frame rate to 60. Then, a video went up on KZbin in which a hacked Switch was running it flawlessly at 60fps. Several weeks later, Rockstar quietly patched in a 60fps mode to the PS5 version. So, there is some hope if their laziness gets enough bad press

[@jefp65]

@@majinzombiegenocider Good point

[@kevinminer857]

I have both current-gen consoles and played RDR2 on Series X; there is one good thing about back-compatability mode -- it doesn't take up 140GB on expensive fast storage. If MS and Sony only required fast storage where it makes sense, or if Rockstar patched it via One X / PS 4 version with FPS boost, I'd replay it in 60fps.

[@ketchup7867]

They can literally do it and ask 10$ for upgrade and literally everyone I know would pay

[@ketchup7867]

Except me because I use a PC with 4070Ti

[@PatricutPatPat]

​@@ketchup7867 wow very cool buddy

[@ketchup7867]

@@EX0007 why be like that?

[@talion7268]

Exactly what I'm saying very few would complain if it an upgrades for 10$ with 60fps and some few graphical enhancements

[@REDA-SB]

You guys have to contact Rockstar and let them know about this request on the behalf of all fans

[@MichelleScott-um2iz]

Bro, your videos are gold.

[@cube2fox]

Woman in the comments = bot

[@curiousmind_]

​@@cube2fox got em

[@Kees_Hazyvill1991]

It's such a beautiful game and still no next-gen patch for this... it's unbelievable...

[@niveketihw1897]

We finally said to heck with it and started RDR2 on our PS5 a couple of weeks ago when it hit PSN Plus. My wife claims not to notice that it's only 30 fps, but she would notice if we ever got a 60 fps patch. We still have our 2009 TV -- 1080p single lamp LCD -- yes, I know -- but it still looks brilliant at 1080p and the 60 fps just makes sense...

[@asapas8]

I really cannot understand wtf are they doing there in Rockstar and don't give this gem a 60 fps update for XSX/PS5

[@nono206]

Sad to see that Digital Foundry doesn’t dare to say the real reason behind this mess : we all know why we haven’t got a 60 fps patch, it’s because Rockstar is the greediest company in the video game industry

[@nader91]

exactly this... tip toeing around it is lame.

[@btwiusearch2]

exactly it will take 5 minutes for rockstar to remove the 30fps limit to 60 for ps5 and xbox series s and x but they won't ever do it because they don't care about red dead only gta becaues gta prints more money

[@Lordbugbug]

even if Rich literally said that in the video, companies do not have feelings about being seen as greedy lol

[@wezbeh4363]

They are greedy but not even close to being *the* greediest company in the business come on now 😂

[@mach3wgamer]

Do you want them to slander a company that's worth billions? That's why it's implied.

[@Aviator-Chicken]

It would be the perfect way to hold us over until GTA VI I would also love for them to add the navy revolver, and a few clothing items from online but I don’t believe this will ever happen sadly

[@CYB3R2K]

Is going to happen... But is rockstar, so isn't going to be free even if you own the game.

[@Kekoapono]

While increased frame rates would be great, the one feature I'd be happiest about with a proper PS5/XSX would be having much faster load times and superior data streaming while exploring the game's environments.

[@NeonReaperMkVII]

It just shows how far from reality those Developers are from real gamers. A RDR 2 60 fps game would sell good, don't even make an update. Just sell it again for $15 bucks or something, even this scam would sell good. Same goes for Bloodborne, it's stupid that those games don't have 60 fps. Someone up there just doesn't see any money in it and thinks people don't care about 60 fps. I can't play RDR 2/Bloodborne with 30 fps, this stuttering just kills every fun for me, it looks and feels awful. I never rly played RDR2 because of it and never touched Bloodborne, same goes for Dragon's Dogma 2, 30 fps? No thanks!

[@curiousmind_]

Frame rate isn't an issue for me as long as the frame times are right too, stable. My eyes adapt rather fast thank God

[@NeonReaperMkVII]

@@curiousmind_ Frame-Time is a is also a big deal. 3:26 min. runs worst and "stutters" compared to 2:40 min. If a game as bad Frame-Time and is 30 fps locked and it's over, I feel like I'm at 20 fps. That's why I always lock my fps in any game, letting your fps go wild is never a good idea. FPS Shooter should all have 120 fps and any other game 60 fps that's all I'm asking after 120 fps I don't see any difference I only feel it sometimes in input delay.

[@Deeplycloseted435]

Rockstar doesn’t care. They only care about selling crap on GTA V.

[@denisruskin348]

The PS4 Pro version has one of the blurriest image I've ever seen. I almost didn't finish it there. Years later, after migrating to PC for good, I finally experienced RDR2 the proper way.

[@kresimirmandic3807]

I could't play it because of it and am still here years later on my PS5 waiting and hoping in vain the time will come I can play the game...

[@Codeinehustler]

RDR still looking better without update than the new games that coming out rn

[@infinitewisdom7777]

I purposely have not played this game yet because I'm waiting on the PS5 remaster. Come on Rockstar! Get it done!

[@wezbeh4363]

Honestly you just need to play it.. It's not coming any time soon.

[@pilot.sergio4]

Your gonna be waiting for a while then buddy, probably will be waiting your whole life because the chances of Rockstar never delivering a update for the frame rate to unlock or even a slight bump in visuals is possible as well. Like the other poster said, I would play it if I were you, despite it being 30FPS it still a amazing game. Although the Xbox version is the definitive version if you want the best visuals in performance since they run the game in native 4K while PS runs it 4k checkerboard.

[@valentynlyevyentsov]

The traversal stutters found in St. Denis are a result of streaming limits set by the developer. There exists a mod which eliminates these entirely, at a cost of higher VRAM usage.

[@HonestTraveller]

Just give us 60 FPS ffs

[@P5YCHO1192]

Rockstar can't be bothered because they're too busy planning out monetization strategies for GTA VI.

[@homerdog1879]

Imagine if we got 40fps VRR at 4K. Imagine!

[@DepresjaToFikcja]

40 fps

[@papiertoilette-pb9lf]

Being happy about 40fps in 2024 is so sad 💀

[@NathanGuilherme-ir2pe]

​@@papiertoilette-pb9lf You should try it out, it's way smooter compared to 30 fps

[@robtennant98]

@@NathanGuilherme-ir2peI’ve tried it, it’s still bad

[@papiertoilette-pb9lf]

@@NathanGuilherme-ir2pe nah don't worry i play at +60fps on pc on my 1650 🤷

[@gamerbynight1]

Been waiting for this for 4 years at this point

[@curiousmind_]

Keep waiting

[@112cmaro]

They will wait for ps6 then drop rdr2 remastered for 100$

[@Lutherrrrrrr]

+ 10$ skins

[@jackthomas3221]

Thank you for this video Digital Foundry.. maybe Rockstar will eventually come around.. 🤞

[@TheFinalOutpost]

I'm forever salty that RDR1 never got a proper PC port.

[@AngryChineseWoman]

It's coming

[@YellowBriefs]

Did you not see the recent leaks

[@walter_the_wobot2349]

@@AngryChineseWoman WHEN?!

[@xtr.7662]

​@@walter_the_wobot2349 later this year

[@imo098765]

@@walter_the_wobot2349 The Rockstar Launcher on PC had an update last month that had this text added. The other games have similar descriptions for GTA 5 etc “RDR_ProductPromotion_Intro_Body”: “Journey across the sprawling expanses of the American West and Mexico in Red Dead Redemption, and its zombie-horror companion, Undead Nightmare — now playable on PC.”, “RDR_ProductPromotion_Intro_LongTitle”: “Experience the epic Western adventures that defined a generation.”

[@WonderBread4020]

As someone who runs this game on max settings on a 4090, it’s long overdue for a 60FPS patch for the consoles.

[@Bimmy_Lee]

I've not bought this game yet because it's running at 30fps. I've been wanting to play it thought. I've heard so much about how great it is.

[@Andrew52_52]

You're crazy

[@ttwinsturbo]

This is the real limitation of consoles vs PC. You have power but alone you can’t do nothing…you have to ask devs to patch the game.

[@techsamurai11]

Usually they do - we just ran into a bunch of dou-che-bags with R* who are probably one of the reasons that the juvenile prisons in the US are full to begin with.

[@lordspalse0062]

This was the game that made me vow to never purchase a 30fps only game this generation. Never in my life will I ever let myself be manipulated into any form of frame begging against the mid or next gen consoles.

[@kinomanssky]

The crazy thing is having a toggle for frame cap must be stupidly easy to add (or even must be included in any engine)….

[@snozbaries7652]

Consoles don't have the cpu power to hit 60+ in most games. On the gpu front they should be able to do it. I can't believe they put such a weak cpu in this gen consoles

[@lordspalse0062]

@@snozbaries7652 zen 2 cpus weak?

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

That AMD Frankenstein board isn't fair to compare PC to PS5, much of it bandwich is cut, i think regular 3700X system with the full 16X to the 6700 would fit better

[@HaloinfiniteEternal]

Yep plus Console games are far more optimized where the Console hardware far outperforms an equivalent paper spec pc build.

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

@@HaloinfiniteEternal i wouldn'd say outperforms it, it is quite more stable, but in raw power and fps PCs usually outpace it

[@HaloinfiniteEternal]

@@DesocupadoXtremo I said Consoles usually significantly outperform equivalent paper spec pc builds meaning like for like hardware. Obviously Pc is always gonna outperform Consoles if it’s a Pc with more powerful hardware obviously but not all Pc builds use high end hardware as the average gaming pc now days is very mid range for most people

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

@@HaloinfiniteEternal i understood, but even with same power PCs jump ahead, cause they don't have the thermal and power constrains of a console, so even spec for spec they outpace it, i think the biggest problem for the performance comparasion its how shit windows is out of the box, you have to thinker quite a lot to maintain it stable as a console

[@anarchychef2216]

U guys will lose your minds when GTA6 releases at 30fps!

[@TheAlderFalder]

Not fucking buying it then.

[@lordspalse0062]

If I have to wait till ps10 to play it in 60 fps, I will. No more 30 Fps games for me on my ps5 whether gta 6 or gta 6000

[@x_xvihtahousux_x1969]

i'm stealing the game and playing it for free then

[@firebeard7]

The generation is in it's late years and we still run RDR2 at 30fps

[@HorizonRover]

They basically need to assign one person to a half an hour job to make it real. But nope, they don't have that 30 minutes because of GTA6.

[@art_connor_74]

I love this game so much but the only way I will be playing it again will be if we get a 60fps upgrade.

[@childofvenus3781]

I have kind of a dumb theory as to Why R* has Not yet released a next gen RDR2 version. Rockstar is very obsessed with people being impressed with their next project, the perception of how far they have pushed everything, especially graphically, compared to their previous work. My theory is that they feel like if they release a ray-traced remaster of a game like RDR2 (which alreasy looks this stunning) before VI, it would decrease the "wow" feeling when people first play GTA VI.

[@ThorStoneGaming]

Def a dumb theory since they already next gen upgraded GTAV

[@childofvenus3781]

You are joking right? ​@@ThorStoneGaming

[@lordspalse0062]

@@ThorStoneGaminggta 5 on ps5 looks like a ps1 game. Don't even bother referencing it in this context. Not even a ps10 can make that game appealing to the eye. Watch dogs 2 in BC mode on the ps5 in 1080p 30fps still looks better than current gen ps5 version of gta 5

[@likklegoon]

@@ThorStoneGaminggtav is a 10 year old ps3 game

[@AidanStreet-yt9sk]

i will be honest things like this pushed me to pc to have more freedom outside of Sony and Xbox also being able to move away from DEVS not updating the game. no issues like this on pc

[@stephengiann1717]

They’re not putting a 60fps mode cause if they fuck up the 60fps on gta6 and lock it 30, it will be a bad look to the “consumers” to go from 60 to 30

[@MrJflomario]

They do that every generation. But here it doesn't make sense because we've had 4k on console since 2017. The cpu's are stronger now so it shouldn't be a problem but Rockstar is yet to change anything. You're right about GTA though. That might not even run at 30.

[@stephengiann1717]

@@MrJflomario they’re weird, rockstar acts like Apple, providing a great product but being pretty faceless and only focused on maximising money

[@MrJflomario]

@@stephengiann1717 Good analogy. The less customer facing they are, the less they have to answer for their antics. The economy in GTA online is so bad, and despite millions of complaints we've never seen any issue with that game addressed outside of exploits.

[@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd]

​@@MrJflomariohow this comment got 5 likes is insane.... I can smell the Schizophrenia energy from a mile away 😭😭

[@MrJflomario]

@@RonniSchmidt-mi7pd Which one of us is schizo? 🤔

[@infinitysynthesis]

Would settle for a 40fps mode.

[@Zinkolo]

I actually bought this game on PS5 thinking it would get a patch eventually but it never came. So I ended up buying on PC and playing it on there. It's amazing how neglectful Rockstar is of it's games...

[@LadyFinger_]

You should do this type of video with gta 4. I know the pc port of that game is terrible but I'd love to see how it would run maxed out on a ps5/sx equivalent pc. Really wish they would remaster it.

[@johnappleseed2635]

Been crying out for this for years..

[@snakemaster7]

7:03 Mrs.Doubtfire